Belarusian modernization of the Soviet amphibious tank

Light amphibious tank PT-76 - an indispensable participant in many military conflicts, ranging from 1950-x to the present. Specialists from many countries around the world have traditionally highly appreciated its capabilities. Much time has passed, and the machine is outdated, but continues to be in service with the armies of a number of foreign countries. Engineers from different countries are trying to improve it, the agency writes Messenger of Mordovia.

Belarusian designers offered their version of the modernization of the PT-76.

“Their option is to replace an outdated engine with a more modern one, with an 300 horsepower capacity. A new gearbox is being installed, controls in the form of a motorcycle-type steering column, cooling and air cleaning system, the publication says. - As a result, the maximum vehicle speed is increased to 60 km / h on the highway and 45 km / h - on a dirt road, and also to 12 km / h - on water. At the same time, fuel consumption is reduced by 8% and oil by 53%. " The cruising range by land will be about 450 km, and by water - up to 150 km.

It is also proposed to install a new turret from the BMP-2 with the 30-mm 2-42 cannon, the PKTM machine gun and the “Competition” ATGM. Thus, according to Belarusian designers, the crew’s ability to combat ground and air targets will increase.

Experts believe that in this form the machine can last for quite some time.

Comments

[Alexander Romanov]

Here the sparrows are needed, he is an expert on this tank. Mazut ay, where are you flying?

[GUS]

But is it worth upgrading if the output is a machine with BMP weapons, but without an airborne compartment?
Unless to drive for export, which is also good.
On the other hand, there is nothing to replace the PT-76 with, nothing like that was developed in this niche. I would think about protection and weapons should be more powerful, which leads to a rise in price. Is it worth it ...

[vorobey]

Quote: GUS

But is it worth upgrading if the output is a machine with BMP weapons, but without an airborne compartment?
Unless to drive for export, which is also good.

And here comes the moose ... good evening ....

I absolutely agree with YOU ... "Bakhcha" is a completely different matter ... but it will be just a small series ... I don't think the Belarusians have millions of millions of these boxes ..

[Darkmor]

But is it worth upgrading if the output is a machine with BMP weapons, but without an airborne compartment?

The whole question is the price of modernization. Honestly, I’m not sure that the game is worth the candle. If you change everything except the frame, then for the price it will come out like a new light tank.
Well, the second question - why Belarusians need a light amphibious tank? To catch Belarusian salmon on the shore of the Belarusian sea? :)
I do not see the strategic need to extend the life cycle of weapons, which will already gather dust in the storage area. And for export, this tank, even with modernization, is morally obsolete.

Our questions with the tank were solved radically - they made a new "Sprut-SD".
http://topwar.ru/33558-samohodnaya-protivotankovaya-pushka-sprut-sd.html
he is generally even outwardly similar.

[vorobey]

Quote: Darkmor

And for export, this tank, even with modernization, is morally obsolete.

Well, what are you ... BMP 1 - also outdated, but Nicaragua buys cars after the kapitalka with pleasure ... here we need to evaluate another - the prudent and thrifty approach of Belarusians ... just to dispose of the boxes is even more complicated ..

[Alexey RA]

Quote: vorobey

"Bakhcha" is a completely different matter ... but it will be only a small series ... I don't think that the Belarusians have millions of millions of these boxes ..

Not everything is so simple. (C)

If Belarusians order the module purely for themselves, in its configuration (for example, with its own sight, compatibility with their ATGMs, etc.), then this will be one price. If they "stick" to an order already produced in series without changing the configuration, then the price will be completely different.

From the point of view of the Russian Federation, the first option is beneficial to us. From the point of view of Belarusians - the second. From the point of view of the manufacturing plant, the first option is more profitable, but the second is easier and less likely to get hemorrhoids on the whole head.

[ispaniard]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Here the sparrows are needed, he is an expert on this tank. Mazut ay, where are you flying?

Sasha, now pulling up for him will not rust, the topic is his
And as for this modernization ... More specifically, with regards to weapons, the proposal looks rather strange considering that almost 10 years ago it was proposed to modernize this tank by installing on it not 30mm 2a42 guns from BMP 2 but 57mm automatic guns S-60.
In addition, the 90 mm Belgian Kkkeril Mk III cannon was also considered. Preference was given to C-60.
Why: a 90-mm gun has great capabilities in combating armored vehicles and at ranges of 1000-1500 m, the armor-piercing projectile has armor penetration 1.7 - 1.9 times higher than the S-60 cannon shell. Nevertheless, this is not enough to defeat modern tanks in frontal projections, and any modern tank takes on board at the same ranges a 57-mm gun.
On the other hand, when firing an infantry combat vehicle (armored personnel carrier) at a distance of 2 km, the probability of hitting a target with one line of an 57-mm automatic cannon is 1,75 times higher than a single shot from an 90-mm Mk III cannon.
If we compare the results of firing from the same guns at the anti-tank missile system at a distance of 2,5 km, then the automatic gun surpasses the Belgian competitor 2 times. As for firing at helicopters, non-automatic guns are completely unable to fight such an opponent. At the same time, the automatic cannon in one turn hits this target with a probability of no less than 0,6. This is also important because mobile forces often operate in the absence of cover for highly effective air defense systems.
More details at this address: http://btvt.narod.ru/4/76/pt76m.htm

So, it’s kind of strange to invent a bicycle when a motorcycle was already invented ... The PT-76 was a cool tank for its time, so let it remain a TANK with a 57 mm gun and not become some kind of cheap parody of a BMP with 30 mm .. .

[avt]

Quote: ispaniard

So, it’s kind of strange to invent a bicycle when a motorcycle was already invented ... The PT-76 was a cool tank for its time, so let it remain a TANK with a 57 mm gun and not become some kind of cheap parody of a BMP with 30 mm .. .

Yeah, then tell Butsk where to get a 57mm tank module and enough fire support for it .... for free. That is for nothing Is it really incomprehensible that all this, I blinded him out of what was, and then what happened, I fell in love. "Do you seriously think that if he could buy a BMP-3, he would bother with this alteration? All this is from the fierce lack of money ...

[Per se.]

Quote: ispaniard

The PT-76 was a cool tank for its time, so let it remain a TANK with an 57 mm gun and not become some kind of cheap parody of an BMP with 30 mm ...

Then it would be better to put on "Bakhchu", it will be even cooler, and this module has been a reality for a long time, unlike projects with a 57 mm cannon. Another option, as Alekseev has already suggested, is a semblance of "Nona" with a 120 mm gun.

[Meh-forester]

Quote: GUS

But is it worth upgrading if the output is a machine with BMP weapons, but without an airborne compartment?

Not only that, they unify the PT and BMP for the engine and transmission.
Fri is good because he was good in just such a marshy area, but this is with the old V-6 low-speed engine, but how will he behave with high-speed UTD? Honestly, I don’t know. And so, the PT was specially created with the possibility of transporting personnel on armor, especially afloat. But the PT because of this had one big drawback - the dimensions, in width. Back in Soviet times, it was revealed that because of this, in a wooded area, its marching and maneuvering capabilities are lower than that of MBT

[Lex.]

On the other hand, there is nothing to replace the PT-76 with, nothing like that was developed in this niche. I would have thought about protection and armaments should be more powerful, which leads to a rise in price. Is there a Well-Well octopus with a 125 mm cannon for two more than a light tank and floating

[svp67]

Quote: Lex.

On the other hand, there is nothing to replace the PT-76

Yes, there is something ... the same syabrs, BRM-2T. In this version, the machine is certainly expensive, but you can also use the lightweight version, without reconnaissance complexes, to modernize the same PT76

[olegnmnk]

A good NONA weapon will stand as a native, even if the Marines have it (even the "land" will be very useful).

[igor.borov775]

Do not drive the wave. There is a replacement. OCTOPUS.

[Bongo]

Quote: GUS

But is it worth upgrading if the output is a machine with BMP weapons, but without an airborne compartment?

The PT-76 needed to be upgraded as far back as 30 years ago. According to a number of parameters, this machine no longer fully meets modern requirements. But in cross-country ability and seaworthiness, the PT-76 and BTR-50 are still out of competition. They were dealed to the last in service in the Far East. Unlike the BMP-2 and BTR-80 amphibious tanks and the BTR-50 created on its base, the Amur was fairly easy to cross and were able to get out of the water onto an unprepared shore.

[vorobey]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

where are you flying

hi ... yes, like everyone else ... I’ll give a poop, there’s a crust of pigeons .. you look and you already have something to go off yourself ...

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: vorobey

you look and you already have something to go.

I suppose you drink water, only with a black oil film Healthy

Quote: vorobey

Sasha, now pulling up for him will not rust

Kantimir, here he flew in, throws feathers at the site. Health

[Conductor]

What a strange, delusional modernization. It’s only to prevent these birds from scraping

Experts believe that in this form the machine can last a long time

in this form is not needed

[Alekseev]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Mazuta au, where are you flying?

Although I am not an expert on PT (I had to ride just a few times), the power unit in the picture is exactly like the UTD-20 engine and the BMP-1 gearbox (2).
For some reason, they do not write directly in the article: they say, in Belarus they propose to put the engine, transmission and armament from the BMP on the "float".
What for? Will the costs be justified?
In my personal opinion PT is much better on water, i.e. in the Marine Corps, for example, this option is passing. But you need a little help, it’s a tank. Or, even better, Nona’s 120mm gun.
Then maybe investing makes sense.

[vorobey]

Belarusian marines? I'm starting to believe psaki ... just kidding ...

Alas, there is a good Russian such BMP 3 machine called ... There is no way to compete with it ... especially in the export version ... so the Belarusian version is a way to make money on the third world market by pulling outdated models to modern realities as much as possible. Well done ...

[Conductor]

In general, it would be better if the minotor service was engaged in the production of parts for combat robots Some time ago, everyone was amazed by "Adunok", but now something is not heard about him.

[PROSTEEL]

Well, respect to the Belarusians! Well done, that support their defense industry in good condition, ready for the production and modernization of military equipment!

[ALEA IACTA EST]

Better to upgrade than to throw away. For the Armed Forces of the Republic of Belarus, the car will fit perfectly.

[Fibrizio]

Again, there is no reservation for modern concepts. The only point is if you have a lot of them and the price of modernization is acceptable.

[fomkin]

I don’t think anything in tanks. But he served in Belarus. With pleasure I read everything about her. I really liked this people. You can not say about some others, where I also served.

[bolat19640303]

PT-76 car for its time was excellent. But a tank (albeit a floating one) with a 76 mm cannon is certainly an anachronism. The modernization of anti-tank vehicles to the BMP-2 level (in terms of power plant, transmission and armament) may shed life as a fire support vehicle. Would be willing to upgrade their PT-76.

[padded jacket]

Actually, I really don’t remember whose modernization I liked with the 57-mm gun.

[PROXOR]

Horror WHAT !!!! If not automatic, don't roll.

[rotmistr60]

Belarusians probably know better to invent something new or modernize the old. Probably they’ve calculated everything beforehand and came to the conclusion that it’s easier to upgrade. At one time, the PT-76 was actively used in the marine corps and reconnaissance battalions, with the goal of fire support and the destruction of lightly armored vehicles and tanks. And I had to deal with the BTR-50 at its base. In the 70s in Primorye there were MS regiments on these armored personnel carriers.

[Tor5]

Well, if Belarusians believe that modernization is also an occupation (although it would be better if something fundamentally new), let them work. I believe that it turned out no worse than it was.

[akribos]

Reminds bmd2 with large dimensions. Pt76 was originally a tank, now it's more like a bbm. For the poor countries for the armament of which Fri is still located, this is still a good way out in order to maintain the park and modernize it, under conditions of course an acceptable cost. However, I count that the presence of a larger colibra is necessary Fri, because in duel situations with armored personnel carriers and bmp, pt76 will not have advantages not in range not in the power of battle. Considering the fact that the BMP has an amphibious compartment like the armored personnel carrier, and the Fri 76 is still a tank and it is applicable for landing limitedly, it turns out that in this configuration it does not have any advantages and the question arises of its practical application. Sincerely.

[saber]

But how often is the landing party in the troop compartment? I'm so, purely interested ...

[akribos]

I mean the type of armored personnel carrier, armored personnel carrier transportation, infantry fighting vehicles and support during a clash, and the Fri after modernization loses the humming-bird ceases to be a tank, and having weapons identical to the armored personnel carrier and infantry fighting vehicles does not have other qualities inherent in armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles seems pretty problematic. Sincerely.

[saber]

thanks, lucidly

[Wolka]

fish and fish, go ahead Belarusians, everything will turn out ...

[sv68]

not to give the tanks to the outskirts! Well done Belarusians, at least we did such a modernization, but what except to laugh and criticize what we did with our pet-cats or are they rusting on conservation?

[Pate]

What the hell 30 mm is the same automatic 57 mm from the ZSU-57-2.

[vorobey]

Quote: Pate

What the hell 30 mm is the same automatic 57 mm from the ZSU-57-2.

The Belorusians proceed from their actual presence, what they have ... look at least at their Stalker .. also questions arise regarding armament ..

[Strashila]

The fact that they are trying to do something is respected.
Installed weapons are a simple unification with existing ones.
The issue of application is to fathers-commanders.
In military conflicts, the PT-76 established itself as a tank that does not withstand cumulative ammunition from its design features, if you add a minimum ... active protection, if possible, or a simple grating ... then it's not a bad machine for escorting columns or patrols.

[Jager]

57 mm? So the trick is that you can make one combat-ready unit for various Nigralends from a BMP-2, a box of spare parts and a decommissioned PT-76. Very cheap, very angry, but quite combat-ready. The machine is exclusively for the banana republics, but in the conditions of the global arms market, where they fight for every order - it's not bad.

[PROXOR]

The Bahcha module asks there or new with a 57mm rapid-firing gun. Now I do not remember its name.

[MGD]

http://topwar.ru/10178-cnii-burevestnik-au-a-220m-i-au-220m.html

http://www.arms-expo.ru/armament/samples/1188/65939/

[Rostislav]

This modernization is an attempt to make money.
Development focused exclusively on export. They recalled in Belarus how much money the sale of military equipment left from the USSR brought.
"The Stockholm Peace Research Institute (SIPRI) has compiled a rating of arms exporters based on data for 2008-2012, in which Belarus entered the top 20. During the reporting period, only one transaction related to new weapons systems - self-propelled anti-tank missile systems" Karakal " The rest is the sale of Soviet weapons. " http://nmnby.eu/news/express/5193.html
It will be nice if it works.

[kartalovkolya]

That's right, about the "dead", or good or nothing, and the banana guys "flog" the same in BT and that you won't foist them in vain! So, perhaps for domestic consumption or to give to someone (to drive them to the extreme on the cheap)! After all, the arms market does not stand still: there is already a crowd of people willing to sell everything and everyone has lined up, from the Chinese to the Malanians (please, not to be confused with the Malays)! with SW. kartalovkolya!

[pts-m]

everyone buys or does not buy equipment, depending on the pocket.

[Banson]

Not. With an 30mm automatic, this is no longer a tank, but don’t understand what.

[Lenivets]

I did not want to be a skeptic, but it's just a rework of the PT-76 in the BMP-2 (in a stripped-down version).
Ie alteration from very ancient and obsolete to a little less ancient.

But if for sale in a banana republic, then it’s completely nothing.

[dima-fesko]

On fishlessness and cancer, fish .......... Well, there is no money in Belarus for new purchases and developments. For yourself, go!

[moskowit]

The tank is the tank, the BMP is the BMP. These vehicles have completely different tactical missions and combat functions. Attempts to universalize military equipment, whether in aviation, in artillery or in armored vehicles, have never led to anything good. All the "innovators" of the military art of the leading world powers have had this disease. It all ended with a waste of huge funds and material resources. Life and reality forced us to return to models and systems that occupy their niche in a diverse number of samples of military equipment.

[Black cat]

So why is this upgrade better than the BMP-2? Better unification of equipment, it is better to replace it with BMP-3. But the tank was not bad, but already too outdated.

[scorpiosys]

And after the "modernization" the result will be a "motorcyclist escort car" with "anti-flyer kulemet".

[Chavez]

at the Borisov BTRZ with an excess of BMP-1 and 2, from which you can take the necessary for the modernization of the PT-76. In ancient times, the Yugoslavs changed the B-6 engines of these tanks to B-54 and received much more mobile machines. and the power unit of the BMP-1 is quite fit, I suppose, into the MTO of the tank. a very good solution