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The characteristics of the Okno-M OEK located in Tajikistan have been improved several times.

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Opportunities of the optical-electronic complex “Okno-M”, intended for the collection and processing of optical information about space objects, have increased 4 times, Interfax-AVN report of the representative of the Ministry of Defense on the EKR Troops Alexei Zolotukhin.

The characteristics of the Okno-M OEK located in Tajikistan have been improved several times.


“The commissioning of four new optical-electronic stations for the detection and collection of information, modern television equipment detection and computing tools of the new generation, created on the basis of the domestic element base, have allowed several times to increase the detecting characteristics, the bandwidth of the complex and its ability to process data about space objects in orbits in the altitude range from 120 km to 40 000 km, ”said Zolotukhin.

He recalled that the “state tests of the modernized OKE“ Okno-M ”, stationed in Tajikistan, were successfully completed at the end of 2014 of the year, and since 2015, the whole complex of“ Okno-M ”started to perform the tasks of controlling outer space within the Main Center reconnaissance of the space situation of the Space Command of the Troops of the East Kazakhstan region.

"Optical-electronic complex" Window-M "is the first specialized optical means of the space monitoring system (PSC), designed to collect information on space objects and control the geostationary region of space," - said the officer.

Currently, EKR Troops have started creating ground-based CCPs of the new generation. “In the coming 4 of the year, a network of new laser-optical and radio engineering systems for the recognition of space objects will be deployed in Russia,” said a spokesman for the Ministry of Defense.

According to him, “the commissioning of new complexes will significantly increase the capabilities of the Armed Forces of the East Kazakhstan oblast to monitor space, expand the range of controlled orbits and, in 2-3, reduce the minimum size of detectable space objects.”



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  1. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 25 July 2015 14: 19
    +49
    Surprise..!! Another as Putin hinted ..
    I already wrote, like that ..
    In an interview recently, Putin hinted at a "surprise" for Western "partners" .. Maybe this is the whole point? I can smell something in the stash in case of emergency ..
    It is possible that before the end of the decade we will see a domestic hypersonic, conditionally “solid fuel”, cruise missile with a range of up to 5000 kilometers, which American radars simply cannot detect. And a cherry on a cake - a week ago it was announced that Russia was deploying a network of Sky-M mobile radars that confidently capture hypersonic targets in the atmosphere. This is a breakthrough, and the breakthrough is very serious - because in addition to the hypersonic sword, we already have a shield.

    http://jpgazeta.ru/rossiya-lidiruet-v-bitve-za-giperzvuk-i-pobezhdaet-v-gonke-vo

    oruzheniy /
    Not everyone managed to ruin and sell all the same .. Well, God forbid!

    Men work ... hi
    1. Major Yurik
      Major Yurik 25 July 2015 14: 29
      +24
      Axiom: Crimea is ours!, There is no doubt in the world, it is necessary that the expression -Cosmos is ours! Also becomes an axiom!
      Well, Ukrainians, along with the Yankees-break off! hi
      1. Throw
        Throw 25 July 2015 17: 00
        +8
        Urya! The slogan is beautiful, but I’m afraid that the first crazy meteorite will rudely destroy these illusions .. laughing

        Chelyabinsk, by the way, all the stations of radio, otic observation and missile defense systems were clicked.
        There were only then random shots of the entrance to the atmosphere from, it seems, the French satellite.
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        2. gjv
          gjv 25 July 2015 18: 01
          +17
          Quote: Lance
          Chelyabinsk, by the way, all the stations of radio, otic observation and missile defense systems were clicked. There were only then random shots of the entrance to the atmosphere from, it seems, the French satellite.

          This complex is electronicallyopticHe sees well starting from evening twilight and at night. And it distinguishes between objects moving along geocentric orbits.
          Chelyabinsk meteorite flew in during the day along a low "cosmoballistic" trajectory at a terrible speed. And the window at that time was just closed (owls are sleeping during the day bully ).
          The question is different: - Did you see the flight of Chelyabinsk on February 15 on the "dark" side of the Earth, lying on a striped mattress, "partners". On March 1, they gave the final report in detail, but after the fact. But to warn -?
          PS: Allegedly, a pair of Meteosats detected an inversion trace of an unusual flying object (UFO) what actually). But there is no general methodological system for detection, assessment of possible consequences and prevention. And how many more such "guests" must fall in order for developments to appear and system also - ?
          1. opus
            opus 25 July 2015 20: 16
            +3
            Quote: gjv
            He sees well starting from evening twilight and at night.

            In the afternoon, he also sees (as you sometimes see in the afternoon the crescent of the moon, or the moon, LA, etc.)
            The principle of operation is based on passive location of space objects by reflected sunlight - if the receiver "catches" the difference between solar radiation and reflected sunlight, the object is fixed (satellites often gleam)
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          2. Starley from the south
            Starley from the south 27 July 2015 21: 33
            +1
            Quote: gjv
            And how many more such "guests" must fall in order for developments and the system to appear too -?

            A warning system may and will not appear after how many years ... But what's the point? Such an object as a meteorite several meters in diameter cannot be stopped, not rejected, but there is nothing to say about larger ones. And their speed is such that they will not have time to evacuate anyone. We must get used to the idea of ​​defenselessness from a meteorite (asteroid) attack. I can only say that the probability of a fall of such large meteorites is very, incredibly small.
        3. opus
          opus 25 July 2015 20: 24
          +7
          Quote: Lance
          Chelyabinsk, by the way, all the stations of radio, otic observation and missile defense systems were clicked.

          missile defense systems cannot fix objects with speeds from 10-15 km / s (both azimuthal and radial, or along a common vector)
          Chelyabinsk entered the upper ones at the speed of 40-50 km / s
          the optical must "look there" into the sector. Then would fix the trace (plasma tail)
          Quote: Lance
          There were only then random shots of the entrance to the atmosphere from, it seems, the French satellite.

          Germany (generally the EEC)
          EUMETSAT
          Eumetsat Allee 1
          D-64295 Darmstadt
          Germany

          http://www.eumetsat.int/
          Meteosat- 9


          Image M9HRV of the European meteorological satellite Meteosat-9, February 15 2013 of the year 03: 15: 00 UTC //





          American DMSP F-16 (military meteorologist) DMSP F-16, with a period of revolutions of 101,942 minutes, also "saw" (as it was, he "accidentally" flew over the territory of the Russian Federation at that time)


          and geostationary satellite Multifunctional Transport Satellite (140 ° E) spotted


          Many have "seen" our acre

          -------------------------------------------
          but at this speed, image processing will not give a handicap by the reaction (no one can be warned)
        4. Alex652002
          Alex652002 25 July 2015 22: 37
          +3
          all tracking stations are primarily geared towards satellites and nuclear warheads; they don’t see meteorites. As they say, they can detect a meteorite but nobody needs to reconfigure the stations for reasons of state security.
        5. Starley from the south
          Starley from the south 27 July 2015 21: 27
          0
          Quote: Lance
          Chelyabinsk, by the way, all the stations of radio, otic observation and missile defense systems were clicked.

          As an astrophysicist by narrow specialization, I can say that a meteorite of such a size as Chelyabinsk can only be detected when it is too close. And this problem will not be solved in the sense of preventing damage - too little time. Yes and no such methods now. This is only possible in Hollywood films.
      2. THANK YOU ALL
        THANK YOU ALL 25 July 2015 17: 40
        +8
        Quote: Major Yurik
        Axiom: Crimea is ours!, No longer causes doubt in the world, it is necessary that the expression -Cosmos is ours !,

        Of course I'm wildly sorry ....
        And what if a "democratic" revolution suddenly happens in Tajikistan?
        1. cucujamba
          cucujamba 25 July 2015 18: 25
          +1
          You suggest that we start it ourselves wassat
          1. Kos_kalinki9
            Kos_kalinki9 25 July 2015 18: 50
            +4
            Quote: cucujamba
            You suggest that we start it ourselves wassat

            No, there is no need to do a revolution in Tajikistan. But somehow annoying. Vostok is a delicate matter. Yes, and the chosen ones climb there seriously. And they did an excellent job.
            1. Throw
              Throw 25 July 2015 21: 07
              -1
              In the chain above - so I wrote: CLICKED!
              laughing
              1. brainkiller
                brainkiller 27 July 2015 17: 07
                0
                Quote: Lance
                In the chain above - so I wrote: CLICKED!
                laughing

                rave. In this case, Chelyabinsk citizens clicked too.
                1. Throw
                  Throw 28 July 2015 02: 07
                  -2
                  Nick is correct. Started with myself laughing
            2. icy
              icy 25 July 2015 21: 24
              0
              will not ... in Leninobad uranium mines.
        2. lukewarm
          lukewarm 27 July 2015 12: 43
          0
          So I immediately thought about the same thing as I saw the headline. This object is visible there since the times of the USSR (they write the same as the first). To demolish it or what? Upgraded. The rest are being built on the territory of the Russian Federation, as I understand it. Tajikistan is a dangerous destination of course.
        3. brainkiller
          brainkiller 27 July 2015 17: 03
          +1
          Quote: THANK YOU ALL
          Of course I'm wildly sorry ....
          And what if a "democratic" revolution suddenly happens in Tajikistan?
          the region was not chosen by chance; there is almost always a clear sky. And the situation is good, more coverage. Because all low-flying orbits go horizontally with different inclinations. and geostationaries can be captured more.
        4. Starley from the south
          Starley from the south 27 July 2015 21: 42
          0
          Quote: THANK YOU ALL
          Of course I'm wildly sorry ....
          And what if a "democratic" revolution suddenly happens in Tajikistan?

          Type, color revolution? There already was one in the year 1992. Although many consider Tajiks stupid, they managed to stop the civil war, mainly on their own. And the new color revolution is unlikely to drive there - China and Russia will not allow this, Tajikistan has too much strategic position, there are too many natural resources there. Tajiks still lack the mind to use their wealth properly, otherwise they would live no worse than in Kuwait.
      3. hrych
        hrych 26 July 2015 00: 42
        +10

        How do you like this?
        1. smershxnumx
          smershxnumx 26 July 2015 11: 40
          +3
          Thank! Neighing from the heart !!! smile
    2. Skif83
      Skif83 27 July 2015 10: 23
      +1
      Everything would be fine, but this is a pearl: - detecting characteristicssomehow scary ...
      Dictionaries have a rest ...
    3. Starley from the south
      Starley from the south 27 July 2015 21: 18
      0
      These systems have been there since 1988. Of course, then they, although they were worse, but surpassed everything that the probable enemy had several times. It is not for nothing that this complex (or rather, the predecessor of this complex) was very enraging to the Americans, they demanded that it be included in the offensive arms system even in negotiations, in order to demand liquidation. But they defended. I can only say, talking with people that they served there back in the days of the USSR, we do not even suspect about all the possibilities of this complex. All this pleases!
  2. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 25 July 2015 14: 21
    +12
    since 2015, the "Okno-M" complex of the full complement has begun to perform tasks for monitoring outer space

    An adequate response from the United States and NATO as a whole to their efforts towards Russia. I think that the functions of this complex are not limited only to the control of outer space.
  3. avvg
    avvg 25 July 2015 14: 25
    +6
    In my opinion, everything needs to be in Russia.
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 25 July 2015 14: 42
      +17
      Quote: avvg
      In my opinion, everything needs to be in Russia.

      For optical observations, there are very few suitable places with a large number of cloudless days per year.
    2. mishaia_23
      mishaia_23 25 July 2015 15: 58
      +10
      Altai Optical Laser Center named after G.S. Titov (AOLC) is a Russian center for optical observations of artificial earth satellites. It was founded in 2004, 4,5 km from the village of Savvushka, Zmeinogorsky district, Altai Territory (near Kolyvan Lake, next to the Bolshaya Mountain). The center belongs to the Scientific and Production Corporation “Precision Instrumentation Systems”. On the basis of the center, aerospace defense forces are operating. On the territory of the center there is a ground-based optical laser system (NOLS) site where a telescope of trajectory measurements with a diameter of 60 cm is installed.
      1. Denis
        Denis 25 July 2015 16: 39
        +2
        Quote: mishaia_23
        near Kolyvan lake, near the Bolshaya mountain

        Probably also at altitude and off the beaten path, so that the air was clean?
    3. Denis
      Denis 25 July 2015 16: 37
      +8
      Quote: avvg
      has everything in Russia

      So it is true, but something complicated. If about this complex specifically, something like this:
      1. It’s somewhere at the 3000 level and about the Tajik industry ... it’s better to keep silent. This means pure atmospheres, but the complex is optical
      2. He was before, as I wrote, saw these "balls" in 1982
      3.Near the Nurek hydroelectric station, and this is energy and protection

      There is probably something more
    4. Starley from the south
      Starley from the south 27 July 2015 21: 45
      0
      Quote: avvg
      In my opinion, everything needs to be in Russia.

      As far as I know, something similar will (allegedly) be built in Crimea. But it will take a dozen years.
  4. 3315061
    3315061 25 July 2015 14: 27
    +3
    Such high-tech early warning stations really help Russia keep track of NATO threats in a timely manner. It is especially pleasant that this OEC works at a considerable distance from our southern borders, in high altitude conditions, which greatly simplifies and speeds up target detection.
    1. brainkiller
      brainkiller 27 July 2015 17: 12
      0
      Such high-tech early warning stations really help Russia keep track of NATO threats in a timely manner. It is especially pleasant that this OEC works at a considerable distance from our southern borders, in high altitude conditions, which greatly simplifies and speeds up target detection.
      what alert? about what? what goals? what are you pleased with?

      by and large it’s just telescopes, and their tasks are appropriate. If you are about detection, then this is the task of the SPRN complexes.
  5. Denis
    Denis 25 July 2015 14: 28
    +3
    state tests of the modernized OEC "Okno-M", stationed in Tajikistan, were successfully completed at the end of 2014, and in 2015, the "Okno-M" complex of the full complement began to perform tasks for controlling outer space as part of the Main Center for Reconnaissance of the Space Situation of the Space Command Troops VKO
    I wonder when it was built?
    I saw these balls in the summer of 1982 near the Nurek hydroelectric power station, of course from afar. They said that "for space"
    And the place is convenient, there the 201 hydroelectric power station division protects everyone from the Taliban, which means the station too
  6. Kraukha 4
    Kraukha 4 25 July 2015 14: 37
    +2
    Great news, SO HOLD !!!
  7. Old26
    Old26 25 July 2015 14: 51
    +9
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Surprise..!! Another as Putin hinted ..

    For you? Maybe a surprise. The complex on the database is already from 2004-2005, 10 years. Now just added power. Only the lazy did not write about him, both in ours and in the foreign press. so call me for a surprise does not pull ..

    Quote: rotmistr60
    An adequate response from the United States and NATO as a whole to their efforts towards Russia. I think that the functions of this complex are not limited only to the control of outer space.

    What? Are the satellites still shooting down? You shouldn't come up with something that is not in this complex. The uniqueness of the complex lies in where it is located. Our "sworn friends" have similar ones.

    Quote: 3315061
    Such high-tech early warning stations really help Russia keep track of NATO threats in a timely manner.

    In addition to detecting satellites, this complex can do nothing else. What are the NATO threats? In mass satellite constellation? Or what else? So he can’t trace the take-off, even massive, from NATO territory of planes or missile launch

    Quote: Denis
    I wonder when it was built? These balls I saw in the summer of 1982 in the area of ​​the Nurek hydroelectric power station, of course, from afar. They said that "for space" And the place is convenient, there is a 201 division of the hydroelectric station from the Taliban protects everyone, which means the station too

    Start of construction - 1980. The first phase was already ready for the collapse of the Union ...
    1. demon1978
      demon1978 25 July 2015 15: 02
      +6
      Quote: Old26
      For you? Maybe a surprise. The complex on the database is already from 2004-2005, 10 years. Now just added power. Only the lazy did not write about him, both in ours and in the foreign press. so call me for a surprise does not pull ..



      The capabilities of the Okno-M optical-electronic complex, designed to collect and process optical information about space objects, increased 4 times

      Agree, this is a completely different complex hi

      Quote: Old26
      What? Are the satellites still shooting down? You shouldn't come up with something that is not in this complex. The uniqueness of the complex lies in where it is located. Our "sworn friends" have similar ones.


      Why not???!!! request It may not shoot down, but our Shuttle has been "felt" with a laser for a long time, he did not like it very much !!! yes So, that blind and orbiting is quite real requestAnd to direct a rocket ... request

      In addition to detecting satellites, this complex can do nothing else. What are the NATO threats? In mass satellite constellation? Or what else? So he can’t trace the take-off, even massive, from NATO territory of planes or missile launch

      And where will they fly without GPS ??? !! what If they can’t even get to the toilet without him (and with him too, this shits anywhere)
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 25 July 2015 16: 39
        +2
        Quote: demon1978
        demon1978

        demonic comment! yes
    2. 3315061
      3315061 25 July 2015 15: 03
      +6
      Window-M collects data on the number and trajectories of enemy satellites, we have other systems for controlling airspace, for example, Don-2, which allows you to pinpoint any flying objects larger than a tennis ball at a distance of up to 4000 km.
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 25 July 2015 17: 26
        +1
        Quote: 3315061
        detect any flying objects larger than a tennis ball at a distance of up to 4000 km.
        An Israeli rocket was spotted in the Mediterranean, and that was bread. the invisible result of our fighters of the invisible front soldier
      2. brainkiller
        brainkiller 27 July 2015 17: 15
        0
        DON-2M does not work on a permanent basis, only training regulations or in the case of receiving alerts from SPRN.
    3. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 26 July 2015 15: 19
      0
      For Old26

      What? Are the satellites still knocking down? Do not invent

      Did you read between the lines or just decided to show what's in the subject?
      In addition to detecting satellites, this complex can do nothing else.

      Are you sure?
      1. brainkiller
        brainkiller 27 July 2015 17: 18
        0
        Quote: rotmistr60

        Are you sure?

        an ordinary radio relay can bring down a satellite, an ordinary microwave can interfere with a rocket, but this complex only works on reception, there were no lasers, blasters, etc. No need to invent.
        1. Starley from the south
          Starley from the south 27 July 2015 21: 52
          0
          Quote: brainkiller
          there were no lasers, blasters, etc., and no. No need to invent.

          There are lasers there, that's for sure. How else to determine the distance without laser rangefinders. Lasers have been standing there since 1988, or maybe earlier. And about the rest ... but who will reveal to us state secrets, are you a naive person?
          1. brainkiller
            brainkiller 28 July 2015 10: 37
            0
            Quote: Starley from the South
            There are lasers there, that's for sure. How else to determine the distance without laser rangefinders. Lasers have been standing there since 1988, or maybe earlier. And about the rest ... but who will reveal to us state secrets, are you a naive person?

            Well, the presence of a laser rangefinder as an integral part was state secret))))
  8. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 25 July 2015 14: 53
    +5
    Quote: Major Yurik
    -Our space!, Has also become an axiom!

    Well, it’s kind of like that .. Our rockets are sent to the ISS by astronauts (from different countries) .. And this is the highest degree of trust in our space technologies .. (there are also new items) We were the first in space (now a little behind) But the main thing is that manned flights are ours! But there should not be errors .. hi
  9. 3315061
    3315061 25 July 2015 15: 18
    +1
    In 2002, on the Ai-Petri mountain in Crimea, I saw a complex very similar to Sky-M, I wonder if it remained operational and in what form did the Russian Armed Forces get it?
  10. Old26
    Old26 25 July 2015 15: 44
    +5
    Quote: demon1978
    Agree, this is a completely different complex

    No. The complex is the same. Only to 10 ECOs added 4 more. Plus new TV equipment. This made it possible to detect and identify smaller objects. Although for what it is not clear. Exclusively for detecting debris in orbits. For satellites, the previous version was sufficient ...

    Quote: demon1978
    It may not shoot down, but our Shuttle has been "felt" with a laser for a long time, he did not like it very much !!!

    Do not feel the laser. A 2 kW laser locator was pointed at the shuttle. The Americans recorded it. Most likely there was a note on closed channels. The laser on Sary Shagan was never brought to normal

    Quote: demon1978
    So, that blind and orbiting is quite real

    In order to blind something in orbit, completely different capacities are needed (if we talk about the Sary-Shagan complex), In Nurek - OPTICAL ELECTRONIC STATIONSAnd not combat lasers

    Quote: demon1978
    And to direct a rocket

    The algorithm of such guidance do not tell me ???

    Quote: demon1978
    And where will they fly without GPS

    And what, is it possible to destroy GPS satellites in orbit of 20000 km ??? What, do not tell me ??? Wishlist ??

    Quote: 3315061
    Sky-M monitors space, we have other systems for controlling airspace, for example, Don-2, which allows you to pinpoint any flying objects larger than a tennis ball at a distance of up to 4000 km.

    Maybe still Window-MAnd not Sky-M. Yes, and Don-2 is not intended to control airspace. This is a missile defense station. But Sky-M - yes, it can control (and should, it is her task) airspace
  11. Old26
    Old26 25 July 2015 15: 46
    +14
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Well, it’s kind of like that .. Our rockets are sent to the ISS by astronauts (from different countries) .. And this is the highest degree of trust in our space technologies .. (there are also new items) We were the first in space (now a little behind) But the main thing is that manned flights are ours! But there should not be errors ..


    Of course. Our space. And we, and not the Americans, sent and are sending stations to distant planets. We, not Americans, are launching telescopes like Hubble, Chakra, Kepler into orbit.
    It turns out interestingly. So we were the first in space, and now just a little behind. And this is quite normal and natural, but the fact that the Americans in manned flights are a little behind and are not putting their manned into orbit now - this clearly means that COSMOS - our.

    Guys!!! But at least be realistic, and do not arrange hurray-patriotic dances with a tambourine. Our state in astronautics is, to put it mildly, below average. What we are ahead of the rest of the world is that we have more launches than our competitors and that we are now working as "taxi drivers". There is not a single serious scientific program for the study of the SS planets. On the creation and production of astronomical instruments like Kepler - no. New developments are progressing so slowly that sometimes it cannot be called a movement. Trampling. When will our new ship be out? Three or four years ago, some of the Roscosmos officials kicked themselves in the chest and shouted that in 2018 there will be the first manned ship on the new ship. Now this period has quietly and smoothly shifted to 2024. But our competitors - the United States - are developing FIVE ships, of which four are manned. Moreover, with access to manned in 2017-2021. And we keep on screaming OUR SPACE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    We put the second stage of the UES "Window" on duty - good. But it is not necessary to make an event of a universal scale out of this.
    1. Major Yurik
      Major Yurik 25 July 2015 17: 19
      +7
      Vladimir! That's right, our universal joy is perhaps overly optimistic, but you understand, they tried to wean us for so long proud of the country, that now even the small success of our homeland instills euphoria, confidence in the future. After experiments in humans, industry, space, our homeland was sick for a long time. Now she’s recovering, little by little, by a step, by a centimeter, and let the smiles of caring people be a little wider than the occasion that caused them. This is for simple people, they have been waiting for so long when it will be possible to be proud of the country again, by God they deserve and deserve it !!! Forgive me if I said something wrong, with respect, Yuri! hi
    2. Starley from the south
      Starley from the south 27 July 2015 21: 58
      0
      Quote: Old26
      Our state in space is, as it were, softer to say, below average.

      I agree! When scientific astronautics are led by foolish people, we will have accidents and the rest of the bouquet. Everything shredded in our astronomical science, and it began a long time ago, 30 years ago, and still does not end there.
    3. Starley from the south
      Starley from the south 27 July 2015 22: 05
      0
      Quote: Old26
      But our competitors - the USA - are developing FIVE ships of which four are manned. And with access to manned in 2017-2021.

      Something I strongly doubt that the Americans, even with the geyropeytsami, pull this. Previously, the kirdyk creeps in imperceptibly to their financial system.
    4. fzr1000
      fzr1000 27 July 2015 22: 44
      0
      Have you heard anything about Astron? And what is the use of these flights to Pluto when the oceans on Earth are studied at 2%? So the United States found the Earth’s twin, which can be reached in 4000 years? You can put monkeys in a rocket and give them a stick, you will learn to read when you arrive. And from this particular object - the country is a concrete benefit. We would have the money and the scientific resource of the United States, had already landed on Mars.
  12. Old26
    Old26 25 July 2015 15: 46
    +3
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Well, it’s kind of like that .. Our rockets are sent to the ISS by astronauts (from different countries) .. And this is the highest degree of trust in our space technologies .. (there are also new items) We were the first in space (now a little behind) But the main thing is that manned flights are ours! But there should not be errors ..


    Of course. Our space. And we, and not the Americans, sent and are sending stations to distant planets. We, not Americans, are launching telescopes like Hubble, Chakra, Kepler into orbit.
    It turns out interestingly. So we were the first in space, and now just a little behind. And this is quite normal and natural, but the fact that the Americans in manned flights are a little behind and are not putting their manned into orbit now - this clearly means that COSMOS - our.

    Guys!!! But at least be realistic, and do not arrange hurray-patriotic dances with a tambourine. Our state in astronautics is, to put it mildly, below average. What we are ahead of the rest of the world is that we have more launches than our competitors and that we are now working as "taxi drivers". There is not a single serious scientific program for the study of the SS planets. On the creation and production of astronomical instruments like Kepler - no. New developments are progressing so slowly that sometimes it cannot be called a movement. Trampling. When will our new ship be out? Three or four years ago, some of the Roscosmos officials kicked themselves in the chest and shouted that in 2018 there will be the first manned ship on the new ship. Now this period has quietly and smoothly shifted to 2024. But our competitors - the United States - are developing FIVE ships, of which four are manned. Moreover, with access to manned in 2017-2021. And we keep on screaming OUR SPACE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    We put the second stage of the UES "Window" on duty - good. But it is not necessary to make an event of a universal scale out of this.
    1. 3315061
      3315061 25 July 2015 16: 16
      +3
      "On the other hand, our competitors, the United States, have FIVE ships in development, of which four are manned."
      I agree with you, the Americans are ahead of us in the study of the planets of the solar system, but this lag began in the 90s, when there was a massive "brain drain" from the Allied science. But even in the most difficult conditions of Yeltsinism, the space industry still survived, which can be considered a miracle. But let's not forget that the first manned flight into space, the first manned spacewalk, the first photographs by the automatic station of the far side of the Moon - these are all the achievements of Soviet, and therefore ours with you, space science.
  13. Starik72
    Starik72 25 July 2015 16: 10
    +10
    I don’t want to get into disputes. I’ll write one thing, since all this is done, it is done for the benefit of our country. Knowing and controlling the situation in the air and space, we thereby increase the security of OUR FATHERLAND, and this is the most important thing in my opinion. Yours faithfully !
  14. Old26
    Old26 25 July 2015 16: 20
    +5
    Quote: Starik72
    I don’t want to get into disputes. I’ll write one thing, since all this is done, it is done for the benefit of our country. Knowing and controlling the situation in the air and space, we thereby increase the security of OUR FATHERLAND, and this is the most important thing in my opinion. Yours faithfully !

    Speak correctly. But at the same time, one should not make an event of universal scale from an ordinary event. Put on the database - excellent, another complex will not be superfluous. But at the same time, do not claim that COSMOS IS OUR. Do not invent what is not. Not to say that all this has no analogues. So it will be more realistic.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 25 July 2015 16: 50
      +3
      Quote: Old26
      has no analogues.

      my favorite! laughing
      1. Dr. Livesey
        Dr. Livesey 25 July 2015 18: 35
        0
        Quote: Andrew Y.
        Quote: Old26
        has no analogues.

        my favorite! laughing

        Classics of the genre! good laughing
  15. tyzyaga
    tyzyaga 25 July 2015 16: 24
    +2
    They must be protected by air defense! It's just that such machines are very vulnerable to precision weapons ...
  16. Old26
    Old26 25 July 2015 16: 52
    +2
    Quote: tyzyaga
    They must be protected by air defense!

    They must be protected by air defense. Air defense should be covered by a motorized rifle division. A motorized rifle division should be covered by a tank division and missile and artillery (jet) brigades. The tank division and brigades should be covered by an air division ..... laughing

    That is unnecessary. Ground cover from local ultraradicals is still understandable. Air defense is useless there. Those who can destroy such a complex, and this, in principle, 1-2 countries are well aware that a blow to such an object is tantamount to a declaration of war
  17. atamankko
    atamankko 25 July 2015 17: 16
    0
    This is in our piggy bank, great.
  18. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 25 July 2015 17: 21
    +1
    Lucky people in black. They now have an improved complex. Congratulations! good
    1. tanit
      tanit 25 July 2015 17: 38
      +1
      But they didn’t guess. Your alleged people in black - they go to the Russian lump. And do not feel the desire to live in the Stone Age hi .
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 25 July 2015 18: 04
        +2
        Hello, Vadim! They ..?))) drinks soldier Only in the parades glow, because. the light from the torches of their rockets is visible from overseas. And this is good.
  19. Tor5
    Tor5 25 July 2015 18: 19
    0
    Aha! Fly, "partners", while fly, and then we'll see.
  20. BOB044
    BOB044 25 July 2015 18: 33
    0
    Keep it up and let the partners think that Russia can.
  21. Nross
    Nross 25 July 2015 18: 36
    0
    Interesting:

    The complex is electronic, and the domes are protective of radiolucent material (probably).

    Does anyone know what frequency they work on? A purely technical interest: it is always called optoelectronic, but the products are not at all like telescopes. Judging by the photo, this is a transmitting device, not a Russian train.
    This means that our techies did not follow the path of amers and began to launch Ka- band radars into space. At least in this system.
  22. Lekha
    Lekha 25 July 2015 19: 02
    -4
    I am sincerely pleased with the modern hardware base, but the "setting" is not for a diamond! Lord, the base of the "tower" is covered with sheets of corrugated board, a demobilizing accord with a grinder ?! The collection point looks like a selmag! Barn .. PPC. And you say keep it up .. ((((Ashamed.
    1. wk
      wk 25 July 2015 23: 10
      0
      yes really a disgrace .... it is interesting to know what was according to the estimate? .... and how much did it cost .... probably the galvanized professional sheet went under the designation of the space professional sheet ...... oh, sorry "stooltkin" fired ... there is no one for the marshals in the VO!
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  23. Old26
    Old26 25 July 2015 19: 13
    +3
    Quote: 3315061
    But let's not forget that the first manned flight into space, the first manned spacewalk, the first photographs by an automatic station on the far side of the moon are all the achievements of Soviet, and therefore of our space science.

    Yes, all this was in our history. But still you should not endlessly trump these achievements, undeniably great. Space exploration is the sum of everything, not just the priorities for starting space exploration.
    But on this amount, we alas lose
  24. fa2998
    fa2998 25 July 2015 19: 32
    0
    Interestingly, this optoelectronic complex only works in near-Earth orbits (satellites, rockets), or you can look further. For example, dangerous asteroids. recourse hi
  25. reut.sib
    reut.sib 25 July 2015 19: 36
    0
    I am wildly sorry this OKO sideways me, we just live - we have no roads, no fast internet, an ambulance arrives in 40 minutes, cellular communication works according to the principle, guess what the subscriber said, there is a public highway nearby, which no one wants to serve, but the military equipment has smashed it into pieces (from the station to the landfill, tanks, armored personnel carriers and others for some reason choose the time of a thaw or drought (choking on the dust). I understand that the country's defense is in the first place, but why ruin the health of its citizens? If for some reason, in Soviet times, all the equipment from the test site to the station traveled in a roundabout way, but now there is simply no control, they rush along the public highway at an unimaginable speed, we are choking on the dust! And fuck where you will find the truth, Putin (Stalin) doesn't know!
    1. reut.sib
      reut.sib 25 July 2015 20: 25
      0
      Who minus he lives in the city! He doesn’t know a damn thing about detonation, about explosions of ammunition .. but why beads ... For example, I’m going home from work to meet a military trawl from bmp 70 kilometers. Dust on private houses, don’t breathe Sorry, why this defensive ability is such a thing for me! The exercises take place for some reason precisely in the mud, in spring or in the rain it is very difficult to drive along the highway
      1. Dali
        Dali 26 July 2015 01: 15
        +2
        Quote: reut.sib
        And to hell where you find the truth ...


        Well, you are not the only one living there ... while one will twitch, of course little will change.

        And you did not try all the inhabitants of that area to the base, to come to the command of that equipment and talk? There are people too ... you think they don’t understand?

        But if they don’t understand, then letters to all authorities that can be written should be ... clear, long, haemorrhaging - but don’t maidan !!!

        shl
        And if everyone else doesn’t support it - well then why whine, then just fight for yourself after all ...
  26. Bort radist
    Bort radist 25 July 2015 20: 17
    0
    Quote: gjv
    This complex is electron-optical, it sees well starting from evening twilight and at night.

    who special explain. I know that the starry sky is visible at sunny noon from a deep well. The problem is that there is no flare on the receiver. And it reminds a joke that in the sun we fly at night, so as not to burn out. Or I'm wrong, because the illumination of modern electronics is removed very easily.
  27. Roust
    Roust 25 July 2015 21: 00
    0
    WINDOW ... it's very good that they don't forget ... But, ... "Maidanak" ... FORGOT ...
  28. Old26
    Old26 25 July 2015 21: 17
    +2
    Quote: Roust
    WINDOW ... it's very good that they don't forget ... But, ... "Maidanak" ... FORGOT ...

    Do you mean the 21st NPC? so it was transferred to Uzbekistan in the early 90s
  29. egor1712
    egor1712 25 July 2015 22: 08
    0
    Who is warned is protected!
  30. pvv113
    pvv113 25 July 2015 22: 10
    +1
    Fantastic view !!! And the last photo is like some kind of alien weapon good
    1. Kremlevets
      Kremlevets 28 July 2015 14: 34
      0
      Quote: pvv113
      Fantastic view !!! And the last photo is like some kind of alien weapon good

      Reply

      "Not entirely accurate, but as they said at the front, you are conducting reconnaissance in the right direction." V. Sharapov. "The meeting place cannot be changed."
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  32. Oman 47
    Oman 47 26 July 2015 07: 42
    +3
    Fun probably served in the mountains at an altitude of 3000m.
    I remember, then you go down to the valley and become numb: trees, cars, women ...
  33. Skalpel
    Skalpel 27 July 2015 08: 56
    0
    In Soviet times, such an event as "modernization" (and this is exactly what we are talking about with "Window-M") was a permanent, standard, planned phenomenon. And in today's Russia this should become a common and familiar phenomenon. So there is nothing special and no one to sing festively and sing praises. Modernized - good! But no more. For what, then, a bunch of current research institutes and research institutes are not getting small state money ???
  34. Kantanara
    Kantanara 27 July 2015 14: 12
    +3
    I served here in the 90s and early 00s. To whom it is interesting to tell. The optical object and stations are distributed in groups. That is, telescopes range from 20 to 80 km. People on the screen see a starry sky that is not subject to the human eye. The object works at night and at dusk in bright sunshine the lens shines on and by morning the work stops the domes are closed. Catch all the satellites that are in nature and make up the base. They can work on space debris. During my tests during the night, 48 new ones were caught with a definition of the trajectory and classification. according to astronomical calculations of coordinates there are no analogues in the world. (I won’t lie, but the error seems to be 0,01%) The astronomical towers are simply sheathed with a frame from corrugated board and the base itself is mounted 32 meters into the mountain ground due to the seismicity of the region. The telescope itself, a multi-ton shit, hangs above the base of the platform in oil, the thickness of the pumped station is n x10 -9 degrees and does not depend on the base, again due to the seismic effect. The telescope consists of three axes (coordinates) that are all independent of each other. As a result, the Tower consists of frame elements independent from each other, a base with a platform, a telescope (with three independent axes). In the 90s, the object was in a suspended and unfinished condition and was guarded by officers in full combat gear of the unit, in turn, as well as military engineers, the specialists additionally, together with the Krasnogorsk peasants industrialists, maintained its working condition. Life gave the object in the 99th MO Sergeyev. So he told the object to be, well, then the NDP began. The object was closely guarded. There were on-duty forces, interaction with 201msd and helicopter pilots there is a helipad. Now, not far from the object there is a presidential cottage (Rakhmonov) as the safest and most beautiful place
  35. Kremlevets
    Kremlevets 28 July 2015 12: 15
    0
    Quote: Denis

    There is probably something more

    You don’t even know what is there! And the main purpose of this complex is not at all what our colleagues write about it, even those who served there. There really are several sites on which equipment for monitoring near-Earth space is installed. All satellites, trajectories , garbage, etc., it’s important and necessary, but not the main thing. There is another site where even the center’s employees weren’t allowed to go. There underground power cables ran from the Nurek hydroelectric station to transfer all the power of the hydroelectric power station to one installation at a time. And NATO their constellation and the missiles to do with here ......