The Ministry of Defense is reviving the legendary tank army, which took Berlin in 1945

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The First Guards Revives in the Russian Army tank army - a celebrated union of Soviet times, reports Interfax-AVN message source in the Ministry of Defense.



“The army headquarters has already been restored,” said a source.

According to him, “the Fourth Guards Kantemirovsky Tank Division, the Second Guards Taman Motorized Rifle Division, the Sixth Tank Brigade, 27-I Guards Sevastopol Motorized Rifle Brigade” were already included in the re-uniting formation. There is a process of formation of "compounds and parts of the army kit."

According to military experts, First Tank will significantly increase the strike capabilities of troops in the western direction.

The headquarters of the army is located in the suburban village of Bakkovka.

Help Agency: “The First Guards Tank Army was formed in 1944 on the basis of the First Tank Army (second formation) as part of the First Ukrainian Front. In 1945, she participated in the Berlin Strategic Offensive. After the war, was part of the Group of Soviet Forces in Germany with headquarters in the city of Dresden. After the withdrawal from Germany, the army headquarters was in Smolensk until its disbandment in 1998. ”
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    1. +36
      23 July 2015 16: 58
      Wonderful. It is good when there are formations with a legendary history.
      More of these are needed. I am sure that they will serve with greater return ...
      1. jjj
        +30
        23 July 2015 17: 07
        So, you look, and the GSVG will return. In general, large units, such as armies, and individual brigades may well be combined in combined commands. It will turn out efficiently and without unnecessary costs
        1. +23
          23 July 2015 17: 09
          Quote: jjj
          So, look, and the GSVG will return

          It would be gratifying laughing For the young generation, the GSVG is the Group of Soviet Forces in Germany.
          1. +31
            23 July 2015 17: 24
            Quote: JIaIIoTb
            For the young generation, the GSVG is the Group of Soviet Forces in Germany.

            Koment after 5 years on VO.-For old people GRVG website - Group of Russian Forces in Germany lol
            1. +22
              23 July 2015 18: 53
              GDVV - Group of Russian Forces in the UK for 2020 year! smile
              1. 0
                26 July 2015 12: 32
                GRVG? What the hell is not joking when God is asleep?
              2. 0
                26 July 2015 15: 10
                GDVV in 2020? Why keep a separate group of troops in the British Federal District?
          2. 0
            26 July 2015 12: 31
            It is gratifying for us who served in the GSVG!
            Just joy surged, again we become strong, which means - independent !!!
        2. +9
          23 July 2015 17: 28
          Quote: jjj
          So, you look, and the GSVG will return.

          Then rather GRVG, though ... recourse you never know...? request
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        4. +15
          23 July 2015 18: 29
          tagged head count! I sold everything! And by the way, all his relatives, so that there were no sabchushek and gaydarich!
        5. +24
          23 July 2015 18: 30
          Defense Ministry revives

          But it also kills, for example, symbols of VICTORY!
          A red star on a multi-colored .....!
          The disgrace is utter!

          Muzzle and about the concrete of that eccentric letter M!
          This is what made this disgrace



          How long will these "designers" mock our memory and history ?!
          1. 0
            23 July 2015 19: 05
            You don’t understand the subtleties .. -this is a special psychological effect on a subconscious level on a soldier of a potential enemy ... Then he will see some kind of nigga star on our plane, and his hand will tremble against his will - decides that his plane ..
          2. +7
            23 July 2015 19: 36
            This order from the other side, by the way, cost a lot of money. Really it was impossible to add a blue stripe to the existing symbol and that's it. All the colors of the Russian Flag are in place and the Army Star has kept everything. But they acted differently, even the competition was announced. Well, now both the authors and those who dragged this "star-symbol" through, let them explain why America is rushing from it. But as always, everything is incognito.
          3. +9
            23 July 2015 20: 05
            Quote: Grandfather Bear
            But it also kills, for example, the symbols of VICTORY! A red star on a multi-colored .....!

            I agree, then. what they do with symbols is a miracle of squalor and utter nonsense!

            As a result, after some time the field of patriotics will sharply narrow, and either we will lose part of the patriotic epos, or again the authorities will be perceived as once by L.I. Brezhnev - short-sighted and toothless.

            PS
            As soon as the Red Star was replaced with a star of radish flowers on our website, the Illustrious Soviet Red Star appeared on my avatar.
            Join now.
          4. +10
            23 July 2015 20: 40
            Quote: Grandfather Bear
            How long will these "designers" mock our memory and history ?!


            "Signs and symbols rule the world, not words or law." These words are attributed to the ancient Chinese philosopher Confucius. Interception in mind control begins with interception of control of symbols. Here is the imposition of foreign names in our media on combat aircraft and missiles, PAK FAK, MAK DAK, SUPER POOPER JET, MS-21, instead of the legendary Turolev, Ilyushin, Yakovlev. What you look into is what you turn into. The war against the Russian Civilization is being waged in accordance with all priorities and without illusions. Management priorities are, in military terms, various ways of waging aggression, wars with the aim of mastering the human, natural, energy and other resources of a country. See "The Six Priorities for Managing Humanity".
            1. -1
              26 July 2015 07: 41
              I completely agree and strongly support! Confucius knew what he was talking about.
          5. -3
            23 July 2015 20: 46
            Our colors are white, blue, blue, red, and not this husk.
          6. wk
            +2
            23 July 2015 22: 43
            Quote: Grandfather Bear
            How long will these "designers" mock our memory and history ?!

            not designers, but customers are scoffing ... designers are executors of the will of the customer MO .... and personally Shoigu! .... that the designer claims this .... look at the form of the Ministry of Emergencies in which Shoigu worked from its foundation (police academy) having I mean the form .... even under Serdyukov, the officer’s everyday was not as Americanized as it is now .... and the general’s four star epaulettes are generally a copy from Yusov’s ..... the fish rots from the head, and we have good designers, correct order!
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          8. -6
            24 July 2015 00: 18
            Maybe as long as we can be controlled?
            For example, using symbols that are inherent in other nations, and not ours.
            Pentacle or "five-pointed star", it is the Star of Solomon. When placed in the region of the forehead (for example, on a cap), it is an inhibitor of brain activity. Imposed on us after the October Revolution.

            The symbol of Russia is the Eight-pointed Star of Russia.

            To understand the intricacies of management, we just need to study DOTA and BER. And until then, the Rus will be imposed by symbols that oppress us, and not give the power of Will.
            1. wk
              +3
              24 July 2015 00: 55
              Quote: Savior the Great
              The symbol of Russia is the Eight-pointed Star of Russia.

              Enough for Russia to invent non-existent symbolism, history, a la ANCIENT Ukrainians .... such eight ... nine ... etc. "real" symbols ... solstice stories, Kolovrats and other dumblings with the beginning of perestroika have already shown us a lot and if you are an adult, then you should understand that these are beautiful fakes! and probably the sign you presented has existed for no more than two years, or maybe less, and the army five-pointed star has never been a pentagram for this, you need to know geometry, but now with Shoigu, she really became a pentagram.
              1. -2
                24 July 2015 01: 22
                WK, with all due respect ... Exactly what I used to learn all my life - I study the annals of my ancestors - Rusov, and you - I WRITE. That is precisely our ideological inconsistencies.
                Surely you have never been interested in Bunker, KOB ... You do not know what SPAS is. You have not studied the Old Slavic Initial Letter. And all your knowledge of the Russian language is limited to the phoneme series of the Primer.
                Therefore, I am glad to receive a feedback - that not everyone shares and perceives ancient knowledge.
                But it is gratifying that there are more and more like me and we are young!
                So Russia has a chance to wake up and throw off the thousand-year-old Morok.
                Good and Health to you! ))))))))
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          9. +1
            24 July 2015 01: 52
            Quote: Grandfather Bear
            How long will these "designers" mock our memory and history ?!

            And we remember history! Dispatcher in Rostov-on-Don, after "negotiations" with the Germans: switch to STALINGRAD control!
      2. +14
        23 July 2015 17: 14
        Quote: Motherland Russia
        Wonderful. It is good when there are formations with a legendary history.
        More of these are needed. I am sure that they will serve with greater return ...

        Or ours nevertheless decided that the result of the confrontation with the West would be another march on Berlin wink
        1. +2
          23 July 2015 17: 32
          Quote: Wend
          Or ours nevertheless decided that the result of the confrontation with the West would be another march on Berlin

          If you want peace, get ready for war!
        2. 0
          23 July 2015 18: 55
          Not in the first for our Fatherland. smile
        3. 0
          23 July 2015 19: 09
          They will run into - it is necessary ...
          Along the way, heap up others with what they deserve laughing
        4. +2
          23 July 2015 20: 59
          Wonderful. It’s good when there are formations with a legendary history

          Then why not revive the 5 Guards Corps? Probably because it is Stalingrad, not Volgograd?
          4 Guards Mechanized Stalingrad Red Banner Orders of Suvorov and Kutuzov Corps
          31-I Rifle Stalingrad Red Banner Orders of Suvorov and Bogdan of the Khmelnitsky Division.
          10-I rifle Stalingrad Order of Lenin division of the internal troops of the NKVD of the USSR
      3. +9
        23 July 2015 17: 22
        Quote: Motherland Russia
        . It is good when there are formations with a legendary history.

        This news needs to be posted on German sites, let Merkel be glad to remember the story.
      4. +2
        23 July 2015 17: 25
        Eh, it’s a pity that Shoigu is alone, he will not be enough for all ministries. At least I became proud of our army.
        1. wk
          +1
          23 July 2015 23: 00
          Quote: vodolaz
          Eh, it’s a pity that Shoigu is alone, he will not be enough for all ministries. At least I became proud of our army.

          Yes Shoigu is a good creator of Potemkin villages such as the Kubinka-Alabino park ... tank biathlon (by the way, he revealed all the inconsistency of our tank building), air strikes ... even for motorized riflemen some kind of window dressing ... and at this time the barracks are collapsing, (not under Serdyukov they began to be repaired) in a little over a month, six planes crashed (two of them are strategists) ..... you also know nothing about the failed "hybrid" war in Donbass? .... well, by the way, the abused here who is not lazy Serdyukov did a lot (defended increased funding) of the GRU special forces, whose forces liberated the Crimea ... although it is not customary for them to beat bottles on the head like in the Airborne Forces ... and maybe that's why ... in general ... comments on VO 80% for + sy ... for a long time there was a discussion on the site that all titles should be canceled ... + and - leave .... in short, if tomorrow the Darkest does not lay down Shoigu, then forgetting about "stool" to start watering. ... "fireman"
          1. +4
            24 July 2015 08: 14
            Quote: wk
            Serdyukov did a lot
            Anatoly Eduardovich understood little in army affairs, he did not need to say thanks here. The appointment of Serdyukov as Minister of Defense in February 2007 for many was a surprise. Putin’s decision can be explained by the fact that Serdyukov proved during his service at the Federal Tax Service the ability to control huge financial flows, as they said then in the central apparatus of the Ministry of Defense. Putin then emphasized that Serdyukov has experience in the field of economics and finance, and here it is necessary to control “huge budget funds” for the modernization of the armed forces. For army affairs was General Makarov, if he was to be praised for what he had done, then this was done not thanks to, but rather, contrary to Serdyukov. I agree with you about tank biathlon, in NATO tank competitions are made more literally, we have this show, which can become a dangerous profanity, wondering who to take it as a standard for training tank crews. On the whole, do not magnify the merits of Anatoly Eduardovich against Shoigu. Of course, it would be better if the talented real general was engaged in the army, but then, it would be better if socialism returned, at its best.
            1. wk
              -1
              25 July 2015 00: 18
              Quote: Per se.
              In general, do not exalt the merits of Anatoly Eduardovich, against Shoigu

              dear ... no one exalts anyone, you just need to be objective ... yes, Serdyukov did some thefts, but these are the sums over which are not like fed. ministers will laugh, and some head of the regional administration ... not to mention the governors (Sashka is a "golden pen" in Sakhalin) .... well, okay got caught .... the wolf is beaten not for being gray, but for eating a sheep ... everyone steals, but you don't need to get caught and know when to stop ... General Makarov was scolded by anyone for his addiction to foreign technology, in terms of tank equipment, so I agree with him, our tank building is out .... and no prospects are visible ... while there were no sanctions, they could buy if not products, but at least components and licenses for them ... power plants, guns, fire vision systems, recipes for armored alloys, electronics, etc. ... now about a talented general ... the position of the Minister of Defense is not the position of the commander of the troops, it is much broader ... these are the problems of wartime ... supply, evacuation, the conversion of civilian production into military production, the implementation of civil defense, etc., so there is an opinion that the Ministry of Defense can be combined with the Ministry of Emergencies, where the Ministry of Emergencies will be "go troops" for example (of course, the bureaucracy in both their ministries will not like it) .... but Ustinov is a good example of a civilian at the post of the Ministry of Defense ... although he wore a military uniform, like Shoigu.
              1. 0
                25 July 2015 04: 43
                Quote: wk
                ..da Serdyukov did some thefts, but these are the amounts over which are not that the Fed. the ministers will laugh, and some head of the district administration .... not to mention the governors (

                Apparently you are a man far from the army, if you say so. Theft, this is not the main fault of Serdyukov, he has done so much bad in the army system itself that he will have to disentangle it for a long time ...
                1. wk
                  0
                  25 July 2015 05: 02
                  Quote: svp67
                  Quote: wk
                  ..da Serdyukov did some thefts, but these are the amounts over which are not that the Fed. the ministers will laugh, and some head of the district administration .... not to mention the governors (

                  Apparently you are a man far from the army, if you say so. Theft, this is not the main fault of Serdyukov, he has done so much bad in the army system itself that he will have to disentangle it for a long time ...

                  Yes, he served only urgent .... but in a place where there are more officers than soldiers, part of two drugs battalions was commanded by Major General Half of the draft drug was engaged in the construction of summer cottages and leftists in local factories (who needs money in their pocket?)
                  2 \ 3 and divisions generally function only on paper but were considered parts of a permanent BG and created boils when reduction commissions arrived .... a lot of time has passed since then ... I think they were disbanded by Serdyukov .... he removed the feeders (not to say that they lived there, but it probably took a lot of the money from real tasks) ... and it was not a building battalion ... it was an air defense ... a lot of inactive (cardboard, like Armat tank) ZKP for which funds were allocated, but which, at best, could be light bomb shelters ... all the equipment is faulty ... the young officers themselves mocked .... in short, someone had to disperse this shushary ... his from the army? .... better the Varangian. ..he did his job, and in its place the BUILDER! ... only in the cleared place Shoigu does not build an army, but its layout ... and for serious money ... the funds are sprayed ... there is no priority strategy ... in general, as before 41, but then at least a few pests were shot and now?
                  1. 0
                    26 July 2015 10: 20
                    Quote: wk
                    cardboard like Armata tank

                    who checked or prompted who?
                    Quote: wk
                    yes served only urgent .... it was air defense
                    1. wk
                      -1
                      28 July 2015 00: 30
                      Quote: colonel
                      who checked or prompted who?

                      the word cardboard is an allegory, you know what it is about .... a tank that has not been seen, not only how it shoots, but even turns the tower ... where is its performance characteristics? which "experts" assess as "no analogue to the world" .... for whom this performance is! .... and you don't need to hide behind lousy secrecy ... YOU consider yourself worthy to be forced into this noodles? ... try to think!
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      5. GUS
        +7
        23 July 2015 17: 44
        Katukovsky army.



        Sergeant Ananiev Viktor Nikolaevich fought in it. My grandfather.
      6. +1
        23 July 2015 18: 27
        "Comrades! .... the revolution, the necessity of which the Bolsheviks have been talking about all the time, has taken place." "(V.I. Lenin
        REPORT ON THE TASKS OF AUTHORITY OF THE COUNCILS) ..
        . The answer to the strengthening of the nuclear forces of the US Armed Forces in Europe-get .. operational-maneuverable front group ... tank army ..
        1. 0
          23 July 2015 19: 55
          http://protivmaidana.ru/news/28034-vnov-sformirovana-1ya-gvardeyskaya-tankovaya-
          armiya.html
      7. +1
        23 July 2015 23: 54
        Wonderful. It is good when there are formations with a legendary history.
        Remarkably, only by the number of divisions and brigades on the corps hardly enough sad
      8. 0
        24 July 2015 06: 41
        Still would be equipped with new tanks, in general it would be great)
    2. +8
      23 July 2015 16: 59
      The good news ... little by little in this way, from the lethargic sleep, where the "reformers" drove us, we get out. What cannot but rejoice hi
    3. +10
      23 July 2015 17: 02
      The Ministry of Defense is reviving the legendary tank army, which took Berlin in 1945

      This is a hint, again to Berlin. smile
      1. +6
        23 July 2015 17: 22
        Quote: Frigate
        This is a hint, again to Berlin



        As I understand it, through Kuev ... After all, "thanks" to the ukram and their friendship with NATO, this army is being revived ...

        And its name is symbolic ... guards ... and even taking Berlin ...
        Aw, Frau Merkel !!! Jumped up ???
        1. +6
          23 July 2015 17: 39
          Quote: veksha50
          As I understand it, through Kuev ... After all, "thanks" to the ukram and their friendship with NATO, this army is being revived ...

          Duc ... But what about? wink Well, it was formed as part of the First Ukrainian Front.
          1. +2
            23 July 2015 18: 18
            Quote: Nick
            Well, it was formed as part of the First Ukrainian Front.



            Then both Silesia and Prague are planned here ... It’s a pity, not Warsaw ...

            PS In modern conditions, the route can be corrected ...
            1. +5
              23 July 2015 22: 33
              Quote: veksha50
              Quote: Nick
              Well, it was formed as part of the First Ukrainian Front.



              Then both Silesia and Prague are planned here ... It’s a pity, not Warsaw ...

              PS In modern conditions, the route can be corrected ...

              .. sorry the FRG did not fit .. well, do you need that Warsaw .. themselves crawl .. laughing
    4. +8
      23 July 2015 17: 02
      and regiments to restore 16GvIAP..5..40 ... traditions should be!
    5. +7
      23 July 2015 17: 04
      ".... took Berlin in 1945 ..." revival with great content ..!
    6. +6
      23 July 2015 17: 06
      Symbolically. Germany, remember!
    7. +5
      23 July 2015 17: 08
      it’s nice, I’m now in stock 1 -guard tank army)))
    8. +1
      23 July 2015 17: 09
      Tank Army !!! Understand the purpose of creating this connection ...
      1. +4
        23 July 2015 17: 43
        Quote: A-Sim
        Tank Army !!! Understand the purpose of creating this connection ...

        The article explicitly says - to increase the shock capabilities of troops in the WESTERN direction. In my opinion everything is clear. At least I hope it is clear to those who are from us in the western direction ...
    9. +6
      23 July 2015 17: 11
      I hope all the military relics are safe from this legendary association. 1 Guards have a glorious battle path. I would like it to be a truly operational unit welded together by common tasks and a single fighting spirit, and not a conglomerate of independent formations and military units.
    10. +4
      23 July 2015 17: 13
      Very well. As they say, there is nothing better than new than forgotten old
    11. +2
      23 July 2015 17: 14
      The process of formation of "formations and units of the army kit."
      It happened. Well, finally, common sense prevailed. Now we would also have restored the division and corps kits in full ... And Lyapota good
    12. +3
      23 July 2015 17: 15
      To arm only with Armats and Terminators about so that's nothing else good
      1. +4
        23 July 2015 17: 50
        Quote: Oleneboy_
        To arm only with Armats and Terminators about so that's nothing else good

        For the first echelon and T-72Б3 with T-90AM fit.
      2. +3
        23 July 2015 17: 53
        Quote: Oleneboy_
        To arm only with Armats and Terminators about so that's nothing else good

        And on each tank write, "To Berlin", and on Red Square to parade them. smile
        1. +4
          23 July 2015 18: 45
          Quote: Frigate
          And on each tank write - "To Berlin", and on Red Square at the parade to lead them

          Enough with the deployed battle banners of the Second World War. Since most of the units are of the guards, then one inscription "DEATH TO Fascist OCCUPIERS" on the silk of the banners will be more than ...
    13. +10
      23 July 2015 17: 21
      I would like to live to see the revival of the RSFSR, of course, somewhat in an amended form, but that would be the bowels again - PEOPLE'S PROPERTYthat will again have free and QUALITY training, treatment, etc. Yes
    14. +5
      23 July 2015 17: 21
      Yes, and should not be disbanded. Factum est factum (what is done is done). And the fact that they revived is good news.
      Minesweeper 302 MSP, 9td, 1
    15. +7
      23 July 2015 17: 23
      In the early 80s, we served in the SA. My friends guarded in Kr. horn several thousand tanks from the GDR put on conservation. Others guarded the tanks in the forest beyond the Urals, the pre-war tanks and the T-34. Everything is in grease, waxed paper. I’m in our division, in the warehouses I saw boxes with soldier’s copper buttons \ that need to be cleaned with GOI paste \, tunics, even shorts, breeches and so on. And this is measured well ... And the arms depots are my mother! Boxes with three rulers, with bayonets in the kit, issue 30s - new. The potential is great. The army can not only be dressed, but also armed in acc. with the era.
      1. +3
        23 July 2015 21: 35
        1) at the beginning of the 80's tanks from the GDR (especially several thousand) did not withdraw ...
        2) in the forest beyond the Urals prewar tanks, feel free to ask which ones?
        1. 0
          23 July 2015 22: 37
          Quote: your1970
          1) at the beginning of the 80's tanks from the GDR (especially several thousand) did not withdraw ...
          2) in the forest beyond the Urals prewar tanks, feel free to ask which ones?

          Probably produced before the Afghan war, not otherwise ...
        2. +1
          23 July 2015 22: 50
          Quote: your1970
          1) at the beginning of the 80's tanks from the GDR (especially several thousand) did not withdraw ...

          A few thousand - of course, did not withdraw. But there were 20 people and a thousand tanks - that was it! Yes
    16. +1
      23 July 2015 17: 25
      A good hint for Germany laughing
    17. +5
      23 July 2015 17: 27
      1 tank division 1 brigade 2 motorized rifle divisions - in my opinion this is a tank corps with a big stretch, but not the army. Who do you want to scare?
      1. +3
        23 July 2015 17: 39
        ... There is a process of formation of "formations and units of the army kit" ...
        Can we wait for the process to complete?
      2. +1
        23 July 2015 17: 56
        Quote: swertalf
        Who do you want to scare?

        Until 1991, in 1 GVKTA there were 2 tank divisions and one motorized rifle (main striking power) + a huge bunch of battalions (EW, communications, chemists, etc.) and brigades (anti-aircraft and missile) and helicopter regiments.
        Although the news is a hundred years in the afternoon, it is said about the modern 1 GVTA - 1 tank division, 1 tank brigade, motorized rifle division and brigade.
        To the main part, in my opinion, there should be no questions.
        Probably the rest of the typesetting method
      3. +1
        23 July 2015 18: 01
        Even the great river begins with a brook. Maybe the revived army will expand to the size of a real .....
      4. +1
        23 July 2015 18: 07
        And we frighten without desire, by the mere fact of our existence. And I believe that this is for all time. For the idiots in the foreign countries are not decreasing, but we are not going to Mars yet. laughing
      5. 0
        23 July 2015 19: 23
        Quote: swertalf
        1 tank division 1 brigade 2 motorized rifle divisions - in my opinion this is a tank corps with a big stretch, but not the army. Who do you want to scare?

        And this is not enough? You are aware that a worthy adversary for this army does not exist even in China. Geyropu will pass through without noticing. We’ll have to mess with the states until the right amount of transport aircraft is built, and we already have a plan for release, we won’t transfer the army at once, but we can capture the bridgehead in Fashington.
    18. +4
      23 July 2015 17: 29
      Legendary army units return. This is a huge plus, more the Army is always strong and traditions too (all other things being equal). However, I - until now - never ceases to admire (and reassure) the fact that the Federal Center for Defense Management has been commissioned. When all the components of this system are put into operation (including the army center of the 1st Guards TA) up to the company level, then we can take a breath for a while: the lack of a proper command and control system for a long time was our scourge. And so you look, and the "first stunning blow" will become impossible ...
    19. +4
      23 July 2015 18: 10
      Quote: Stiletto
      A good hint for Germany laughing

      This is not even a hint, it is a SYMBOL. The right was Confucius who said that symbols rule the world. The symbol has extraordinary power. The revival of the first tank that took Berlin is very symbolic. Let the modern commanders of the first tank be worthy of its founder - twice the hero of the Soviet Union Mikhail Efimovich Katukov. And this is also symbolic!
    20. +1
      23 July 2015 18: 24
      Quote: veksha50
      Quote: Frigate
      This is a hint, again to Berlin



      As I understand it, through Kuev ... After all, "thanks" to the ukram and their friendship with NATO, this army is being revived ...

      And its name is symbolic ... guards ... and even taking Berlin ...
      Aw, Frau Merkel !!! Jumped up ???


      Through Kiev - this is to Romania, cut off the oil fields wink And to Berlin - through Minsk.
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    22. +2
      23 July 2015 19: 00
      Quote: jjj
      So, you look, and the GSVG will return. In general, large units, such as armies, and individual brigades may well be combined in combined commands. It will turn out efficiently and without unnecessary costs


      born in Potsdam))
    23. +2
      23 July 2015 19: 11
      And our Mongol regiment will be reborn. Now they have done the training and handed over to her the banners and orders of the regiment.
      And the regiment then had 8 orders on the banner.
    24. hartlend
      +5
      23 July 2015 19: 13
      This topic has already been covered at VO a month ago. And no one noticed. All just like.
    25. 0
      23 July 2015 19: 24
      Think with your heads, likes can be set in another place. Where is the order of the Minister of Defense (reference, please). Not only that, the 1 Tank Army in the West is what ??? The next formation in ascending is FRONT. Ek where the author has bent ... And in general, who is the author of this opus. And I would like to see documentary evidence of the decisions made. For if there is evidence, then the situation is already becoming serious, but no, there’s nothing to lay out any bullshit !!!
    26. +4
      23 July 2015 19: 33
      He served in a separate air defense missile defense system in Naro-Fominsk. When leaving Germany, part of its infrastructure (barracks-1 unit, medical unit-1 unit, park and fuel and lubricants-1 unit) donated to us the Kantemirovsk division, since the god of war himself ordered us to be together (they have T-80 and we have a complex based on the T-80). For this they called us "Germans", "German brigade" and all that ... but everything was fine. Now I just want to be happy for the kantikov. In the first guards tank they the first role is prepared drinks And with mine it is not clear ... my brigade like "Buka" was transferred to the echelon of the defense, then they were reorganized into some kind of regiment. They probably know better there. I am not a guard or a tank, although on tracks. I am not an army, but I am not one, we are many! drinks Congratulations, Kantemirovsky regiments still expand everything to full-time and you will have great military happiness soldier
    27. +1
      23 July 2015 19: 45
      Well, since there are no courageous people, I’ll add:
      1. A source in the Ministry of Defense is not a decision of the General Staff signed by the Minister and (in the case of the formation of a compound of this magnitude) supreme.
      2. The army is not an order lying in the safe, it is primarily PEOPLE. For the full organization of such a connection, it is necessary to call upon the appropriate number of people once a year.
      Question: Where can I get ??? And this is only in one army. He served in the Chita missile (in a large circle was called the ARMY), and she was in 88m. But we were all cropped-neutered. So minus-do-not-minus, but we simply don’t have enough people for a normal technological ARMY (as a compound).
    28. +2
      23 July 2015 20: 03
      Warm greetings and best wishes to the guys serving and serving in 1 tank army from serving in the third shock army with the headquarters in Magdeburg of the GSVG, which was disbanded after the withdrawal from Germany. I think its revival is just around the corner. According to the recollections of military leaders, in those years, the most shock of the drums. Good luck, guys. Pride and inspiration for my country covers when I hear such news.
      1. +1
        23 July 2015 22: 31
        hi, a signalman. I served in the 1st Guards Army in the 6th Kiev-Berlin Division. She is now with my father. So even if the army is recreated, it’s already without the parts that were before.
    29. 0
      23 July 2015 21: 49
      Hmm, in the Russian Ministry of Defense Comedian intellectuals with a capital letter))) Such an awkward hello to Western Europe!)
    30. 0
      23 July 2015 22: 35
      Quote: jjj
      So, you look, and the GSVG will return. In general, large units, such as armies, and individual brigades may well be combined in combined commands. It will turn out efficiently and without unnecessary costs

      Little note from me - The army is a union, and the division is a union.
      In addition, I want to say that such higher tactical units as the first strike corps will probably be restored! hi
    31. +1
      23 July 2015 22: 45
      The revival of the legendary army is the right, wonderful decision. And also, a reminder to the West about the lessons of history!
    32. +1
      23 July 2015 23: 05
      Quote: jjj
      So, you look, and the GSVG will return. In general, large units, such as armies, and individual brigades may well be combined in combined commands. It will turn out efficiently and without unnecessary costs

      In the process, the KATUKOVA army will again take Berlin !!! hi Personally, I will be happy to participate !!!
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    34. +1
      24 July 2015 00: 37
      There is such a Russian tradition: to educate young warriors on the military annals of our heroic ancestors. And also make a march to the places of past battles ...
    35. 0
      24 July 2015 01: 55
      Glory to the Valiant Soviet tankmen !!! URRAAAA !!
    36. +1
      24 July 2015 04: 36
      why only the headquarters again in Moscow, so worthless, the headquarters should be at the place of deployment of the main forces ...
    37. +1
      24 July 2015 04: 38
      Well, I hope that the revival of the tank army will begin with the construction of infrastructure of decent quality. What this army can give in the realities of modern weapons and methods of warfare ... well, I hope that those who made such a decision are clearly aware of this.
    38. +1
      24 July 2015 08: 54
      Good news cheers up the whole Mother of Russia)))))
    39. +1
      24 July 2015 09: 18
      Another ostentatious action of the Ministry of Defense. In modern warfare with the use of the WTO, electronic warfare, etc. such a clumsy monster as a tank army will stand and wait for instructions from the leadership. Airmobile brigades, which should include motorized rifle, tank, artillery units with air defense and air defense cover, are much more effective in their use. Moreover, all these units must be part of the brigades and obey the commander of the brigade. This is the only way in the conditions of modern warfare and a rapidly changing environment that a commander is able to successfully conduct a battle.
    40. +1
      25 July 2015 12: 51
      All this is good, but how will such units as Kantemirovskaya, Tamanskaya and Sevastopol, that is, located at different ends of the country, join the army?

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