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Elections in Belarus: three months before the apogee

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Elections in Belarus: three months before the apogeeThe second half of 2015 of the year begins, which promises us a lot of interesting events in the post-Soviet space. And in no case should we miss one of the most important, entailing irreversible consequences - the presidential elections in Belarus.

Belarusian political spectrum

Belarus is one of those countries, which seem to be not so much to tell. Fraternal people with almost identical origins, clean streets of cities, stability, economic president Lukashenko ... And, meanwhile, since the beginning of the Ukrainian conflict in the Belarusian pool there has been a quiet, but unstoppable encroachment and even some trend towards radicalization, which is insignificant for the time being, but in the long term - dangerous .

Alexander Grigorievich Lukashenko is still the master of the country, its “father” and the main man. Today, his role, like the role of his country in the post-Soviet space, has been significantly deformed - from the eternal partner of Russia, from “Russians with a quality mark”, Belarusians suddenly turned into some kind of neutral mass with incomprehensible political ambitions of the leadership, who framed Poroshenko and expressed support for the junta . Many patriots suddenly ceased to respect Alexander Grigorievich himself, and even began to criticize - they say, this is not all fraternal.

Alas, Lukashenka is just a politician, albeit a very good one. And today it can be noted that the polarization of the Belarusian society, although it has not reached a critical point, has already begun and is actively going. First of all, the Nazi coup inspired the Belarusian nationalists with its example (yes, there are such). Many of them went to war in the Donbass - they did not return, frankly, not all, but they set a certain example of the public.

It is very important that all sorts of American organizations at different levels have stepped up their activities, and at the same time, criticism by American politicians of the "last dictator of Europe" is heard less and less in the news... As it was already mentioned, everything goes to the fact that they will try to make Yanukovych out of Lukashenka - to play a false scene with the allegedly maximum trust in the president, while cultivating a radical wing in the political arena of Belarus. The task, to put it mildly, is not an easy one, especially in comparison with Ukraine, which the same NGOs have been procrastinating for all 24 years of "independence". But what did the Western political strategists not achieve?

Unfortunately, if, of course, we do not know something, Lukashenko is acting rather recklessly. Statements about a possible threat from Russia - a country that subsidizes Belarusian enterprises and an agricultural complex, look not so strange - they generally enter into open discord with ideas about the odious, but Russia-friendly president. The same should be said about his contacts with Poroshenko - it would seem that Belarus should have supported the external course of the Russian Federation and at least did not recognize the junta during the same time and reduce the volume of trade with Ukraine. But this was not noticeable.

Where are our?

However, if you look at the situation from a different point of view, everything will become clearer. The Belarusian society, alas, is not so monolithic as it itself can think. Young people are largely infected by Western ideas, the Western way of life. But the students are the driving and most active part of the nation, which in other hands can bring innumerable misfortunes (Maidan as a vivid example). Overwhelmingly, adults are apolitical - they can go to the polls and vote, because everyone does it, but no more.

All these loud statements, all this public policy are flirting with a radical-minded part of society. And flirting is rather naive, since Lukashenko will never be his own for the so-called “zmagar” and other oppositionists. The main thing for him is to realize this fact in time.

And here another problem emerges - the absence of any vivid Russian national identity in the republic. The point is not that the authorities conditionally prohibited Russian marches or organizations like RNE. Rather, the connivance of those whose professional occupation is to shape pro-Russian sentiments in the post-Soviet republics plays a role. Can you tell right away how many Russians live in Belarus? Can you name the regions and places where they specifically live? Hardly - this information is not advertised. What can we say, if in principle there are not even significant Russian diasporas in the country! Yes, they speak and think in the same language, but the structure of society is different, self-consciousness is also different, but there is no passionary forces capable of turning it in the right direction.

A step away from instability

Before the upcoming elections, the IISEPS Research Center, which is considered both in the opposition and in pro-government circles relatively neutral, published quite interesting information about the mood of citizens. In particular, at the beginning of July, no more than 40 percent of voters are ready to vote for Lukashenko. This is a solid result, but not more than 79 and more than the percentages recorded by the electoral commission in 2010. Moreover, opposition candidates are gaining some popularity. Mikalai Statkevich (currently a prisoner convicted for conducting mass riots in the last election) has 5% support, although he is unlikely to be able to run for office and even get into candidates, as he is currently in prison. Other "grantoedy", Neklyaev and Lebedko, totally pull over almost 10% of the electorate.

Of course, the population supporting the opposition is in the minority and is represented, as a rule, by fairly marginal groups. But one cannot ignore the fact that even an active minority is capable of delivering big problems to the authorities. Many thousands have not yet decided who they will support and whom they will vote for. This is the same gray mass, which everyone can incline to their side. And do not underestimate the opposition - with the support of the West, they can even arrange their "Maidan" in Minsk, as they have already tried to do in 2010. Then the Old Man was the idol of all Russians, and he did not allow anyone to let anyone in. Today, he is already trying to “make friends” with the West and can miss the attack of an assertive predator.

Perhaps the main question is how much time the West has left to try to get rid of its enemies. It is much easier to find approaches to Russia, I have Belarusian territory at my side - the connecting link of the Russian Federation and Europe. Therefore, the Russian foreign policy bodies should remain vigilant and ... be ready to help Belarus with a difficult choice for it.
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  1. rope
    rope 14 July 2015 06: 22
    +18
    I have a gift; I see the future as the new president will become Lukashenko)))
    1. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 14 July 2015 06: 58
      +28
      Quote: rope
      I have a gift; I see the future as the new president will become Lukashenko)))

      To do this, you do not have to be a woman Wang. hi
      We dispersed in 1999, dispersed in 2001, dispersed in 2006, dispersed in 2010, and now we will disperse if they violate our laws !!!
      1. DimYang
        DimYang 14 July 2015 07: 29
        -16
        As if he himself did not violate them. The people have the right to overthrow him. Most of them no longer support him, Minsk residents hate fiercely. Oh, and Kolenko, the little ghoul generally annoys the population.
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 14 July 2015 07: 39
          +12
          Quote: dimyan
          The people have the right to overthrow him. Most of them no longer support him, Minsk residents hate fiercely. Oh, and Kolenko, the little ghoul generally annoys the population.

          My minus. Where is this "people" who are ready to overthrow? "Minskers" hate? Minskers are not all Belarusians yet, just like the Kievites are not all Ukrainians. And to call the boys "ghoul" ... this is how his "ghoul" is manifested? more specifically, pliz.
          1. DimYang
            DimYang 14 July 2015 08: 16
            +10
            Upyrenysh absolutely deserved. He bit the flight attendant's hand to the bone when she did not allow him to close the door on the plane. And with the words "when I grow up I will become a minister and I will order you to be shot" and this is not a story. And yes, I am a Gomel resident and I also despise him.
            1. noWAR
              noWAR 14 July 2015 09: 40
              +8
              I am also a Gomel citizen (by the way, under my flag) and am not delighted with the president, but ... I have no right to despise a man who dragged the country out of the hole in the early 90s, even looking at his embrace with the "hohlyatskaya" junta ... And in general, the question to the admins is why one "soap" is enough to register on the site?
              1. Belarus
                Belarus 14 July 2015 10: 31
                +6
                You dear, you don’t understand much. You understand that after the collapse of the USSR, what a powerful economic resource remained on our territory????? It was because of him that our country existed to this day and not someone pulled our country out of the pit. And if pulled out where we are now, if not in the anus. And now it’s full kaput, they gobbled up and recycled , all that remains of the union is no longer there. What did the AHL create that specifically, that ??????? If you don’t know something or disagree with the point of view of another, then don’t cling to that person and stupidly contact administrators with the same question.
                I have no right ..
                if you yourself decided that you do not have the right, then you do not have the right to even not be delighted with it.
                1. noWAR
                  noWAR 14 July 2015 10: 39
                  +9
                  Even reluctance to answer if you do not know what this ek. the resource was tied and in what the same. he left. I will not answer with a minus, because I know you as a forum member for a long time and respect, and another 99% of the comments on me. hi
                  1. hedgehog in the fog
                    hedgehog in the fog 14 July 2015 13: 35
                    +10
                    how many critics and seers, there will still be roofing felts, all this idle talk, here’s a fact for you, your salary has fallen, prices have risen, gasoline has risen, our ruble has fallen, what to do and who is to blame for you zomboyaschik talk, everybody like a bone in the throat of any normal person because the farther, the worse. But there is no one to choose, because he eliminated adequate people not in 2010 and not in 2006, there were fagots on the square, he eliminated competitors back in 1999, and now there is no one to choose, not to vote in fact, for the thugs from the bnf, have mercy, I won’t go to the polls sad
                    ps Lukashenkoluby you can minus, only 90% of you haven’t been with us at all, and the remaining 10% haven’t called on MKAD ..
                    1. shilov-mob
                      shilov-mob 14 July 2015 14: 50
                      +10
                      My dear hedgehog, it is not for nothing that the states are pressing Russia, and we are left with it. Just now you will sing when the salary is not 350 ye, like many now in Belarus, and 35 like in Ukraine. After all, Ukraine is now a model for revolutionaries ...
                      1. hedgehog in the fog
                        hedgehog in the fog 14 July 2015 16: 48
                        +7
                        ay, read above, I am against BPF and pidosia, as well as against bows, and in general I think we should enter Russia in 6 areas, as it has been for almost 200 years
                      2. shilov-mob
                        shilov-mob 14 July 2015 16: 54
                        +3
                        ay, read above, I am against BPF and pidosia, as well as against bows, and in general I think we should enter Russia in 6 areas, as it has been for almost 200 years


                        do not drive horses, they do not change them at the crossing wink
                      3. smphantom
                        smphantom 14 July 2015 19: 28
                        +1
                        Exactly "hedgehog .........."
                        You have some conflicting desires.
                      4. Bram_neumann
                        Bram_neumann 15 July 2015 14: 32
                        0
                        And what prevents a friend from moving to Russia with Zhonka and a cat for permanent residence?
                      5. 0255
                        0255 14 July 2015 17: 31
                        0
                        Quote: shilov-mob
                        My dear hedgehog, it is not for nothing that the states are pressing Russia, and we are left with it.

                        in 2011 there were no sanctions against Russia, nor a global crisis. And remember what a madhouse was
                      6. old man54
                        old man54 15 July 2015 00: 53
                        0
                        Quote: 0255
                        in 2011 there were no sanctions against Russia, nor a global crisis. And remember what a madhouse was

                        world global The financial crisis of the western system of the economy, which began officially in the 2008 year, has not gone anywhere until now, do not fantasize. Now it’s just stagnation, i.e. there is no fall, but no growth either, but it will soon be fun, after a few years, when everything will collapse even deeper and sharper than in 2008.
                        Yours faithfully, hi
                    2. smphantom
                      smphantom 14 July 2015 19: 25
                      +2
                      "Gasoline has risen, the ruble has fallen, the mustache is gone, boss ...."
                      Does this apply only to Belarus?
                      What did the AHL do this?
                      He did a lot of things (although without letting the "legacy of the USSR" fall apart, he earned a lot of advantages).
                2. andrejwz
                  andrejwz 14 July 2015 14: 07
                  +10
                  Quote: Belarus
                  You dear very much do not understand.

                  Are you the truth in the first instance? Well, remember the early 90s. If the business executive Lukashenko had not come, your pro-Polish professors who had seized power and imagined themselves to be politicians would not have left even memories of the country's “powerful economic resource” by 2000, having sold its remnants on the “mosquitoes” of Poland. And back in bulk, bringing selfless love to the "democratic" West.
                  Before claiming that the incumbent president is so bad that it is bad for the country, you first find someone who really could replace him and has a real work plan. It is a work plan, not a basket with burgers stuffed with democratic promises. Eat a bun and you will be happy.
                3. Pissarro
                  Pissarro 14 July 2015 19: 48
                  +8
                  .You understand that after the collapse of the USSR what powerful economic resource remained on our territory ????


                  Compared with what remained after the collapse of the USSR in Ukraine, a trifle, there remained a potential equal to the economy of Germany

                  What was so specific about the AHL that ???????


                  He just didn’t let Belarus turn into Ukraine. For this "only" it is already possible to erect a monument during his lifetime, despite the rest
              2. DimYang
                DimYang 14 July 2015 12: 46
                +3
                The Russian flag, since I work in Mother Russia, as if all kinds of Samosti and Svidomo had no fault with it. Yes, in some cities as after the war, and bureaucratic lawlessness, and the village was destroyed. But what do you want for 23 years, the liberals and other ** friends ** did their gesheft on it, but the people were not broken and did not drink, did not become embittered, as if liberal propaganda was screaming. I myself see it with my own eyes, believe Russia to be reborn completely and how then those who cherished it will sing. I despise because he is dead ... and this is not in my opinion, but in his birth and actions.
              3. prosto_rgb
                prosto_rgb 14 July 2015 20: 47
                +1
                Quote: noWAR
                And in general, the question to the admins is why only one "soap" is enough to register on the site?

                As I understand it, you have a proposal to register as in: tyt.by hi
            2. Ejik_026
              Ejik_026 14 July 2015 10: 32
              +4
              Well, don’t speak for everyone. The fact that he was spoiled does not cancel, that in Belarus I do not see alternatives to Lukashenko. Is there a person in front of your eyes who can lead the state and bring it in the ass, like in Ukra, and having made it successful?
              If not, then do not get excited. There is? Well, offer to be able to assess who pays him the money, where he succeeded, what he could put on his feet, etc.
            3. Paul
              Paul 14 July 2015 19: 47
              -1
              rzhu nimagu))) who told you such a story? facts in the studio !! don't be like "Colin Powell's test tube" !!!
        2. Ejik_026
          Ejik_026 14 July 2015 10: 29
          +4
          Overthrow yourself, if the moron is of course. But Ukraine is not needed here for nothing.
          1. smphantom
            smphantom 14 July 2015 19: 34
            +5
            The second Ukraine will NOT work with us!
        3. flSergius
          flSergius 14 July 2015 11: 40
          +9
          The people have the right to overthrow him. Most of them no longer support him, Minsk residents hate fiercely.


          We hate it, but to change it for x understand someone, there are not so many fools, and over the last year, looking at the junta, it has diminished.

          And most importantly, the yanyk were overthrown first of all not by the Maidan students, but by other oligarchs. He especially did not rock the boat, because I understood - all of them are already against him, and even if today he will disperse the Maidan, tomorrow he will get banal cyanide in coffee sprinkled. We don’t have this, our ghoul keeps all enterprises under control, it doesn’t allow officials to rise too high, only the Opps themselves know the opposition leaders by sight. One super oligarch. Therefore, he again transplanted them on the eve of the elections, and the riot police, who were Maidan riot police, with a rubber club between their ears. I work near the Academy of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, I saw training with shields and clubs even that week.
          1. smphantom
            smphantom 14 July 2015 19: 42
            +3
            "superoligarch .." - Promvyatite unreasonable, what does he own?
            "training with shields ..." - you will be very surprised that VVshniki are constantly doing this
            regardless of the election (they have such a job).
        4. Xzistant
          Xzistant 14 July 2015 16: 18
          +4
          Well, overthrow so what? Will the salary rise immediately or will the gasoline become cheaper? Yes "Fig-you", as the well-known character used to say.

          Let's argue - instead of the Old Man there will come some thread of a gay-oriented character, but as you, Dear, you understand the alternative one, and hello - the prices will be like in a geyrop, and salaries will be like on the outskirts.

          Answer, Dimyan, do you want this?
          1. DimYang
            DimYang 15 July 2015 03: 51
            -1
            The pro-Zapadnik will definitely not come. I don’t think that Russia will let it go. And what I want is my business.
          2. Bram_neumann
            Bram_neumann 15 July 2015 14: 42
            0
            Well, overthrow what? Will the salary increase immediately or will gasoline become cheaper?

            A man has been sitting in a chair for 20 years and wants another 5. And now, count those who were born in 1994, have already acquired families, have given birth to children. And he is still sitting. May be enough
            Will the salary increase immediately or will gasoline become cheaper?

            Of course not. Hard times will be after the departure of agla. But these are our Belarusian problems and we will solve them.
        5. shilov-mob
          shilov-mob 16 July 2015 13: 54
          +1
          Quote: dimyan
          Most of them no longer support him; Minsk residents hate fiercely


          How Minskers feel bad in Minsk ...
      2. Bram_neumann
        Bram_neumann 14 July 2015 11: 46
        -5
        I reviewed the footage many times from the evening of December 19, 2010 and I can say with confidence that then the people came out
        1. hedgehog in the fog
          hedgehog in the fog 14 July 2015 14: 33
          +4
          Quote: Bram_Neumann
          I reviewed the footage many times from the evening of December 19, 2010 and I can say with confidence that then the people came out

          the people came out, but those who called him there betrayed him there was nothing, ANYTHING ... the people just trampled the dirt and then got a club with eve, and those who called him just worked out the loot ..
          1. Bram_neumann
            Bram_neumann 14 July 2015 20: 25
            0
            The people got for just leaving. The opposition in Belarus is too intelligent.
            I don’t know who worked there and what, there are no documents
        2. prosto_rgb
          prosto_rgb 14 July 2015 20: 57
          +4
          Quote: Bram_Neumann
          I reviewed the footage many times from the evening of December 19, 2010 and I can say with confidence that then the people came out

          You should review the frames for 1994-1996, people really came out there !!! Because there was nothing to eat in those days.
          And on December 19, 2010 a failed performance for Western media.
          About 10 thousand people for the 2 millionth city, this is even less than 1%.
          1. Bram_neumann
            Bram_neumann 15 July 2015 00: 36
            0
            How low some people value themselves. Those. you have to go out - because there is nothing to eat, there are no other reasons.
            And on December 19, 2010 a failed performance for the Western media

            naturally, a friend has documents confirming his words
            About 10 thousand people for a 2 millionth city, this is even less than 1%

            Well, there are not 10, but more than 40 came out. Yes, the second figure is also not big. But when dozens of people go out on stocks, and then tens of thousands. There is a difference
    2. Anatole Klim
      Anatole Klim 14 July 2015 07: 05
      +11
      Quote: rope
      I have a gift; I see the future as the new president will become Lukashenko)))

      The fact that Lukashenko will remain president undoubtedly and no gift is needed to see it (your humor is weak), he openly stated from the highest stands that he would not give up power. By the way, in Ufa, he once again asked Russia for a loan of $ 3 billion and he doesn’t care that Russia is in a difficult situation and needs money, just give it all, the electorate needs to be greased, the Belarusian economy cannot work without Russian loans and grants. Well, Russia will give money, there is no alternative to Old Man, that's how we are friends with Old Man (not to be confused with Belarusians).
      1. saenara
        saenara 14 July 2015 18: 50
        0
        Quote: Anatol Klim
        there is no alternative to Old Man, that's how we are friends with Old Man (not to be confused with Belarusians)

        Are we not friends with Belarusians?
        1. Anatole Klim
          Anatole Klim 14 July 2015 19: 18
          +3
          Quote: saenara
          Are we not friends with Belarusians?

          We are friends, and completely disinterestedly, we have always been and will be together and in grief and joy. A Belarusian will never be a stranger in Russia, and a Russian will not be a stranger in Belarus.
    3. Minstrel
      Minstrel 14 July 2015 09: 04
      +2
      Quote: rope
      I have a gift; I see the future as the new president will become Lukashenko)))

      Nothing like this! Lukashenka will declare: "I am tired of being to the presidents of Bialarus! Paetam from the day of the day is simple - the king." wassat
      1. Ejik_026
        Ejik_026 14 July 2015 10: 34
        -2
        By the way, then the eldest son will be the heir, and not Kolya.
  2. zurbagan63
    zurbagan63 14 July 2015 06: 43
    +1
    If Lukashenko is again, sooner or later, and there will be a Maidan. The Old Man is fat. His policy is in the style of both yours and ours, or rather a freeloader. With a son, in uniform, walks on holidays. The dictator’s habits are evident, but they are overthrown. You can recall Ceausescu, Gaddafi ...
    1. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 14 July 2015 07: 10
      +6
      Quote: zurbagan63
      The dictator’s habits are evident, but they are overthrown.

      Only if apical revolution.
      The question is who will pay for it and will it be at all? Both the West and Russia are head over heels occupied by Ukraine. Who is left?
      And all sorts of "Ploshchy", "Maidans", "National gatherings" - this is bullshit for the "electorate" beautiful picture for western world media hiding the apical coup.
      Ordinary citizens, at least young, even the elderly, the Example of Ukraine here is more than enough. In terms of the outcome of their maidan.
      1. 0255
        0255 14 July 2015 08: 18
        +1
        But pro-Western sentiment is also growing, as the country is heading for a deep butt. There are those who admire "the Ukrainians are handsome, they overthrew their Yanukovych", they go to the Banderaites in Ukraine, think that Putin attacked the Donbass, are outraged by Crimea.
        1. Ejik_026
          Ejik_026 14 July 2015 10: 41
          +1
          enough everywhere, you can’t argue. There are smart people who see the minuses both there and there and think about what to choose. And here you can’t argue with them, there are enough problems.
          Almost no resources. And production is focused on the Russian Federation, which has now abruptly ceased to take ours and is promoting its own. On the one hand, I’m glad that I thought better of them, on the other hand, it made it worse.
          That something like this.
    2. Ejik_026
      Ejik_026 14 July 2015 10: 38
      +4
      Have you been in Belarus for a long time? At least he throws off the freaks who are trying to row for themselves. Looks like a woodworker. Or doesn’t let the Russian Raiders BelarusKali get caught.
      Yes, he behaves like a prince, but to live here is clearly calmer than even in the same Russian Federation. At least I, as a QA engineer, had proposals to move to the Russian Federation, but having estimated that I preferred to stay. Moreover, security in Belarus was not in last place.
    3. smphantom
      smphantom 14 July 2015 19: 57
      +2
      You can recall Ceausescu, Gaddafi ...
      At the same time, remember who paid for all the banquets ...
  3. DimYang
    DimYang 14 July 2015 06: 57
    +1
    This collective farm ub .... to the main obstacle to the integration process. He said earlier that not one is white. the enterprise will not be sold, which in fact, is now selling a lot, but there are no buyers. Pragmatism is present in his politics, but it’s some kind of tricky one, all of which is only for sitting on the throne. Plus various chairs ... This policy is very similar to political prostitution. And she, in turn, knows what leads.
    1. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 14 July 2015 07: 16
      +6
      Quote: dimyan
      This policy is very similar to political prostitution.

      Any political activity for a long time turns, as you said, into "political prostitution".
      Quote: dimyan
      Pragmatism is present in his politics, but it’s some kind of cunning .. the whole of it is only for sitting on the throne.

      Yeah:
      1. DimYang
        DimYang 14 July 2015 07: 38
        -1
        In the Kremlin, it’s time to think about changing the arrogant collective farm cattle, he observes all military agreements with Russia only so that he would have a trump card in a conversation with the West and if the West makes a weighty offer, he will immediately curtail his military alliance obligation (especially since the rules of the Customs Union are regularly violated), while it will be mandatory to shout that some internal Russian forces have encroached on the independence of the blue-eyed. And the West is us dapamagae. There were already examples, not far away. It’s just that not everything was expressed to them to the end.
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 14 July 2015 07: 47
          +8
          Quote: dimyan
          In the Kremlin, it's time to think about changing the arrogant collective farm cattle

          Well, if "collective farm" does not suit you ... then everything is clear to me. But in Ukraine they DREAM that the collective farms would be returned, and they envy such a father, because he is the OWNER.
          Quote: dimyan
          And the West is us dapamagae

          Well, he helped us so much, so he helped ...
          1. DimYang
            DimYang 14 July 2015 08: 12
            -2
            Quote: Egoza
            Well, if "collective farm" does not suit you ... then everything is clear to me. But in Ukraine they DREAM that the collective farms would be returned, and they envy such a father, because he is the OWNER.


            When I write about its kolkhoz origin, I do not mean that kolkhozes are bad, on the contrary, in our reality it would be a very good option, but when I talk about kolkhub..ka, in my understanding it means, that he really ub..k, (who saw his dad?) and the people say "from rags to riches" then according to the logic of things, of his own free will, which means he will not leave for good. And this means one thing, it will be bad.
            1. Ejik_026
              Ejik_026 14 July 2015 10: 53
              +8
              Then the horseradish prefix collective farm?
              This is just an insult to the collective farmers, by the way I have enough acquaintances from the collective farms.
              And yes, when insults begin, it means that the arguments are over.
              1. DimYang
                DimYang 14 July 2015 12: 55
                -2
                Because every bumblebee is good at its flower. My grandfather, the deceased, after the war, worked on a collective farm until retirement, and I respect peasant labor. If a person, for example, the chairman of a collective farm is a strong business executive, then why climb into the head of state, and then, like a tick, hold on to power, eliminating competitors. I think my idea is clear.
        2. sherp2015
          sherp2015 14 July 2015 09: 30
          +8
          Quote: dimyan
          In the Kremlin, it’s time to think about changing the arrogant collective farm cattle,


          Yeah, and put the bloodsucking revolutionaries Walzman-Poroshenko or Yaytsenyuk-Bakaya, Nickname, T-scrotum ...

          Maybe the Old Man has insignificant minuses like a stiff hand, but in our despicable time you’ll pop your ears and there’s no country, but there will be a blood-fiery mess according to the example of Ukraine, which seems to be just beginning ...
        3. Ejik_026
          Ejik_026 14 July 2015 10: 48
          +2
          What about you?
          It was the Psheks who called Belarusians cattle, which, you know, does not contribute to good neighborly relations.
        4. Ejik_026
          Ejik_026 14 July 2015 10: 51
          +1
          And yes, examples of violation of the rules of the Customs Union are possible?
          Otherwise, allegations do not add faith to you.
          1. DimYang
            DimYang 14 July 2015 12: 59
            -2
            Fundamentally, I’m not proving anything to anyone, you really need to find it yourself. I'm not a pshk, for sure.
            1. smphantom
              smphantom 14 July 2015 20: 03
              +2
              "Basically, I'm not proving anything to anyone"?
              Does it mean the facts are dumb?
    2. tokens2
      tokens2 14 July 2015 07: 25
      -3
      DimYang
      This collective farm ub .... to the main obstacle to the integration process.

      And why is the collective farm paradise (in Belarus) bad for the supporters of communism in Russia? laughing
      Friendly country nearby.
      Come so to speak on the farm named Old Man.
      If you don’t like Putin’s cut.
      So these liberals will be dumped without support, to the west.
      tchchchutka laughing
      1. DimYang
        DimYang 14 July 2015 08: 32
        -3
        Quote: Lexi2
        And why is the collective farm paradise (in Belarus) bad for the supporters of communism in Russia?


        I am against communism. Against liberalism, against false democracy. Socialism is the social formation necessary for our society. And the form of state structure, so I am for the monarchy, but not in the person of the Romanovs. There are more worthy remnants of the descendants of the ancient Russian clans. Then in our society there really will not be a tear. But this is my opinion, suggest that -
        something better.
        1. rosarioagro
          rosarioagro 14 July 2015 08: 44
          +10
          Quote: dimyan
          I am against communism.

          How can one be opposed to what was not?

          Quote: dimyan
          Socialism is the social formation necessary for our society.

          And this is a step towards what you are opposed to :-)
          1. DimYang
            DimYang 14 July 2015 08: 55
            -4
            Quote: rosarioagro
            And this is a step towards what you are opposed to :-)


            You have a mistake. Socialism has nothing to do with communism. Example Sweden.
        2. tokens2
          tokens2 14 July 2015 08: 50
          +3
          DimYang
          I am against communism. Against liberalism, against false democracy. Socialism is the social formation necessary for our society. And the form of state structure, so I am for the monarchy, but not in the person of the Romanovs.

          I share your views. However, I am not inclined to blame the last Russian Tsar for everything. The monarch in modern conditions, in principle, cannot have all power.
          I am quite satisfied with Putin. The people believe him. And this is more important than any "But" and scandals with corruption.
          With such views and with Stalin's avatar? bully
          A plus.
          1. DimYang
            DimYang 14 July 2015 08: 57
            +6
            Quote: Lexi2
            With such views and with Stalin's avatar?
            A plus.


            Stalin is a very respected person. I am grateful to him, but that he raised the country and mobilized to victory in the war, after the Jewish pogrom, and cut out almost all the Jewish performers and others like them.
            1. tokens2
              tokens2 14 July 2015 09: 12
              +1
              Stalin is a very respected person. I am grateful to him for having lifted the country after the Jewish pogrom and slaughtered almost all the Jewish performers and others like them.

              A revolution (or rather, a coup) would not have been possible without people with Russian surnames. Including the generals. Their contribution to the demolition of the system is much more significant. For they possessed power. But they could not hold it after the tsar's abdication.
              Stalin is a very respected person.

              Yes. Stalin is a great historical figure.
              But with all the rigidity, he possessed outstanding diplomatic abilities.
            2. dmb
              dmb 14 July 2015 09: 24
              +6
              Well, just lovely, not a comment. especially well combined with "collective farm cattle" and "socialist monarch". Somewhere I already read similar. Oh yes, in the articles of Julius Streicher ... well, the very one who was hanged in Nuremberg for crimes against humanity.
              1. DimYang
                DimYang 14 July 2015 13: 10
                -3
                Almost all the hanged leaders of the Third Reich were Jewish crosses or with an admixture of Jewish blood and hung them strictly on the Torah in the Jewish holiday, many before circumcision accepted circumcision and Judaism let you know. Hitler fed and sent Jewish capital against us. This is a well-known fact, but it’s not customary to say about it.
            3. Ejik_026
              Ejik_026 14 July 2015 11: 02
              -2
              Put +
              Stalin is a very respected person. I am grateful to him, but that he raised the country and mobilized to victory in the war,

              But I did not look what next.
              My friend, you’re an anti-Semite.
              Do you know how many Jews died in the war, not counting the concentration camps of Germany?
              For a statement like yours, you need to ban.
              1. DimYang
                DimYang 14 July 2015 13: 06
                0
                Have you studied Euler's circles? So, every Jew is necessarily a Jew, but not every Jew is a Jew. I can explain it clearly. By the way, Stalin left many Jews, for example Koganovich and many others. Even if I am an anti-Semite, which is not entirely true, then this does not concern you. By the way, this term was clearly invented by the Jews themselves, in order to stigmatize their enemies. Semites are also Arabs, some Caucasian peoples, so this term was clearly coined by a narrow-minded Jew.
          2. BOLSHEVIK
            BOLSHEVIK 14 July 2015 08: 59
            -1
            Quote: Lexi2
            I am quite happy with Putin

            Perfectly licked, handsome lol
            Quote: Lexi2
            The people believe him

            Oh, is it? ("Him" already from a big beech ..., it just stinks of seligerschina)
            1. tokens2
              tokens2 14 July 2015 09: 15
              +2
              BOLSHEVIK
              Oh, is it? ("Him" already from a big beech ..., it just stinks of seligerschina)

              Are you a supporter of the collapse of Russia?
              Perfectly licked, handsome

              Who are you licking to?
              The State Department?
              1. BOLSHEVIK
                BOLSHEVIK 14 July 2015 10: 24
                0
                Quote: Lexi2
                Are you a supporter of the collapse of Russia?

                I am a supporter of the people's power, or rather, the socialist structure of society.
                And all your liberalissimos and shitcrats, including the highest elite of the Russian government, are henchmen of the bourgeois counter-revolution and are the worst enemies of Socialism, in fact, anti-people.
                And if their rule leads to the collapse of the Russian Federation, it will be, exclusively, their fault. (I am convinced that the healthy forces of society will not allow this).
                I hope you understand my position.
                Quote: Lexi2
                Who are you licking to?
                The State Department?

                Heh ..
                For you, especially gifted, I repeat that the State Department is the flagship of the world imperialist bourgeoisie, and therefore the enemy of the working class, and therefore mine too.
                Clear? fool
        3. sherp2015
          sherp2015 14 July 2015 09: 36
          +1
          Quote: dimyan

          I am against communism, against liberalism, against deceitful democracy. Socialism is a social formation that our society needs. And the form of the state structure, so I am for the monarchy, but not in the person of the Romanovs. There are more worthy remnants of the descendants of the ancient Russian families.


          You probably mean the descendants of Trotsky, Sverdlov, Kamenev, Zinoviev, Martov, Tukhachevsky, R. Zalkindov and so on ... rubbish? Vaughn Nemtsov was just a descendant of Sverdlov ...
          1. DimYang
            DimYang 14 July 2015 13: 12
            0
            What nonsense did you say? You probably didn't understand what I said. Read carefully and think about it.
        4. user
          user 14 July 2015 10: 14
          +2
          There are more worthy remnants of the descendants of the ancient Russian families.


          For example.
        5. Ejik_026
          Ejik_026 14 July 2015 10: 59
          +4
          Yeah
          like Norway or Sweden? Where are children taken away from their parents, even if the parents came as tourists, and it so happened that they gave birth in Norway?
          Well, for me, communism is better.
          And yes, there was no communism in the USSR, there was developing socialism. Unfortunately, he made the wrong turn and turned into shit, with a pop-up shit, instead of the cream of society.
          At the same time, Stalin tried to reorient it to a socially oriented state and the ideas were for the future. And Khrushchev, the bastard bastard, broke everything.
          Compare Stalin's houses and Khrushchevs, Stalin's avenues and wide streets on the assumption that in the future the flow of cars and narrow streets that have begun to rivet in Khrushchev's districts will increase.

          So socialism is good, but socialism is also different, you know.
    3. Ejik_026
      Ejik_026 14 July 2015 10: 44
      +3
      Don't p ... lie.
      MAZ was bought out in half by Kamaz.
      Half of the oil sector is already under Gazprom.
      MZKT (bases for poplars) is moving there, and is working due to orders for the oil industry of the Russian Federation and the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.
      The same BelarusKaliy was almost captured by a raider swoop. The question is not what does not sell, but what does not sell on conditions unfavorable for the state.
      1. DimYang
        DimYang 14 July 2015 13: 19
        0
        Here I am amazed at human stupidity. There are many other businesses that are for sale. Have you seen the audit documentation, etc., do you know the real cost? I'm not. As for the raider takeover, don't read the Belarusian press, you know it is harmful. MAZ and then stuck it in. The oil industry, so it never belonged to Belarus by and large, was built by the Union. Objects of the Union value were built at the expense of the Union budget.
  4. nahalenok911
    nahalenok911 14 July 2015 06: 58
    +3
    Lukashenka, of course, is burrowing, but the trouble is - there is no ACTIVE pro-Russian opposition! And the Belarusians have really swampy times. One hope is that in the swamps they understand and identify the correct bumps.
    1. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 14 July 2015 07: 24
      +9
      Quote: nahalenok911
      but the trouble is - there is no ACTIVE pro-Russian opposition!

      And there is NO ACTIVE Western opposition.
      And in general there is NO ACTIVE opposition.
      One hope is that in the swamps they understand

      God willing hi
      In the meantime, a little humor:
      1. Anatole Klim
        Anatole Klim 14 July 2015 09: 52
        +3
        Quote: prosto_rgb
        In the meantime, a little humor:

        I will support you with humor, here is a video, of course humorous, but listen carefully to the words - very much nothing:
        ... power is in good hands, no tea
        in a place just below the back
        everyone who is not happy with me
        can i send ...
        ... someone here wants to change with us
        someone will get on the lips now ...
  5. inkass_98
    inkass_98 14 July 2015 07: 10
    +5
    Father, for all his cunning, he was and remains the head of the state farm. And he simply was not attracted by such gingerbread cookies as were offered to skakal. For too long, he showed loyalty to Russia, which is why he fell into the category of dictators. Now the picture is slightly changing, the bourgeoisie began to communicate with him for well-known and well-defined reasons, he began to drift even more. Hence all these demarches with junta and self-reliance. Where their own forces and money come from is elementary. Smuggling of goods to Russia, speculation in oil products and gas supplied by Russia at low prices. After all, one of Luke’s riots coincided with an attempt to give him his hands for it.
    The elections are close, the cunning pretzel will win again, but they must prepare their candidates for the next 100% pro-Russian, otherwise the son Kolenka will take the throne, a monster spoiled by the pope, still snotty, but already knows a lot about himself. And in the worst case, we get another Svidomo Ruin, but without borders with Russia, but with beautiful borders with the Baltic and Polish husks.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 14 July 2015 07: 50
      +5
      Quote: inkass_98
      otherwise, the son of Kolya will ascend to the throne, the monster spoiled by the pope, still snotty, but already understanding a lot about himself.

      Well, what is this expressed in? Specifically, show by examples!
      1. ohtsistem
        ohtsistem 14 July 2015 09: 13
        +2
        Quote: Egoza
        Well, what is this expressed in? Specifically, show by examples!

        He also has two sons, with one (Volodya) in charge of security at the very top. And about Kolya there is such a bike among the people "They ask him -" Until you wake up to rule, Mr. Luka ..., the answer is until Kolya, and I will ... ""
        1. DimYang
          DimYang 14 July 2015 09: 22
          +2
          I support. And I heard a lot about the elders. Trust from trusted people. And yes, not Volodya, but Vitya, then Dima. And the words of AHL .. the only one I trust is my son Victor .. but that was before Kolka.
    2. BOLSHEVIK
      BOLSHEVIK 14 July 2015 11: 50
      +3
      Quote: inkass_98
      But father, for all his cunning, as he was and remained the head of the state farm.

      and you are, strategist fellow
      Quote: inkass_98
      Smuggling of goods to Russia, speculation in oil products and gas supplied by Russia at low prices.

      But what are you modestly keeping quiet about the gas supplied by the Kaklov junta at low prices?
      And then you declare the Republic of Belarus a stronghold of smugglers and speculators?
      Quote: inkass_98
      The elections are close, the cunning pretzel will win again, but they must prepare their candidate, 100% pro-Russian, for the next, otherwise the son Kolenka will take the throne, the monster spoiled by the pope, still snotty, but already knows a lot about himself.

      fool There are already no comments .....
      And you, dear, do not want to understand within our country? and then the gas rose again on the rupe ...
      glory to gazprom, he’s cute, urrrr
    3. E-man
      E-man 14 July 2015 12: 42
      +5
      The elections are close, the cunning pretzel will win again, but they must prepare their candidates for the next 100% pro-Russian, otherwise the son Kolenka will take the throne, a monster spoiled by the pope, still snotty, but already knows a lot about himself. And in the worst case, we get another Svidomo Ruin, but without borders with Russia, but with beautiful borders with the Baltic and Polish husks.


      I advise you to deal with the affairs of your country within its borders, and not look at neighboring states. It is precisely because of such confidence in the right to influence the state of affairs in Belarus that many Russians do not like.
      1. saenara
        saenara 14 July 2015 19: 08
        +2
        I would say "because of such confidence individual Russians in the right to influence ... ".
  6. Million
    Million 14 July 2015 07: 14
    +1
    Young people are largely infected by Western ideas, a Western way of life

    What, interestingly, do they miss the western?
    1. k174oun7
      k174oun7 14 July 2015 07: 23
      +3
      According to the logic of the author of the article, there are not enough gay parades and the legalization of same-sex marriage. Therefore, it is time for the White-Maidan for the rights of sexual minorities.
    2. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 14 July 2015 07: 31
      +3
      Quote: Million
      Young people are largely infected by Western ideas, a Western way of life

      What interestingthey lack western?

      And who told you that to us (youth) namely western Is something missing?
      There are problems with the level of salaries, but what can you do if there is a recession in the economy in both Russia and the EU?
      All that remains is to trust the television set, not forgetting, of course, the sense of humor. laughing
      1. Million
        Million 14 July 2015 07: 47
        +2
        And who told you this, that we (the youth) of the West are missing something?
        There are problems with the level of salaries, but what can you do if there is a recession in the economy in both Russia and the EU?

        The author of the article said
      2. 0255
        0255 14 July 2015 09: 11
        +3
        Quote: prosto_rgb
        And who told you that to us (youth) namely western Is something missing?
        There are problems with the level of salaries, but what can you do if there is a recession in the economy in both Russia and the EU?

        In fact, there are many who dream of higher western salaries and lower western prices. Especially now, when they began to receive a salary of $ 200. Advertising to the West is done by both the state media and the ideology of the Belarusian Republican Youth Union, when they say that everywhere is bad and only ours is stable.
        Was there a recession in the global economy in 2011? When "there was no devalvatsiya", but the dollar grew from 3.000 to 9.000 rubles?
        Quote: prosto_rgb
        All that remains is to trust the television set, not forgetting, of course, the sense of humor. laughing

        Tie with viewing BT and ONT.
        1. prosto_rgb
          prosto_rgb 14 July 2015 09: 26
          +3
          Quote: 0255
          Tie with viewing BT and ONT.

          I have satellite TV, channels both Russian and Ukrainian and European.
          And already it is given to any TV I trust a little, but for a background it is possible to look also.
          On the Internet you can find information closer to the truth.
          I prefer to draw conclusions based on information from various sources.
  7. Krakc
    Krakc 14 July 2015 07: 31
    -12
    it’s not clear - why do Russians think that they should be loved in Belarus? More than half of the people, so sure, do not have a special love for Russia.
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    2. genadevich169
      genadevich169 14 July 2015 07: 47
      +10
      Russians in Belarus should be loved for the simple reason that Russians and Belarusians are one nation. If you do not understand this, this is not your place!
      1. Bram_neumann
        Bram_neumann 14 July 2015 12: 32
        -7
        Russians in Belarus should be loved for the simple reason that Russians and Belarusians are one people

        No, not one people. But two different
        1. noWAR
          noWAR 14 July 2015 17: 01
          +1
          Well, that distinguishes you from the Russian middle band ... although I guess laughing
          1. Bram_neumann
            Bram_neumann 14 July 2015 20: 48
            -1
            I don’t think that you can distinguish an Englishman from a Scotsman or a Negro from a Komeranian. And these are different nations. So here
            1. regsSSSR
              regsSSSR 15 July 2015 06: 09
              +4
              Quote: Bram_Neumann
              I don’t think that you can distinguish an Englishman from a Scotsman or a Negro from a Komeranian. And these are different nations. So here


              yeah, that is, you are a type of nationalist and, following your logic, a person from Brest and Vitebsk are two different nationalities true))) and of course you are able to treat them once) well - well)) and I think you will fly away with the same ease, well, let's say Novgorodets from Moskvich or Kievite from Donchanin) these are all different peoples, right, did I understand? you know this, so you can divide the whole world into small micro-countries of a region or even a village))! Well, what’s the result of this, which will lead to the microprinciples of always fighting with their neighbors very promisingly back to the Stone Age! and the fact that according to statistics on the territory of the Belarusian Soviet Union, every third inhabitant died during the Second World War! these are official statistics, by the way, and the people came from the whole union to restore the raging independent republic, then how many purebred Belarusians should have remained after all the experienced Cameroonian?))? I’m not talking about what they wrote in the passport! here for a long time everything is so mixed up with so many nations in every blood, however, as well as throughout the former USSR! so to say that you are there some kind of purebred in the seventh knee, I think more than stupid! here it’s probably more important who you consider yourself to be. and in fact there is already 20 years for the first time in history the official territory currently called the Belarusian Republic of which lands at different times belonged to different countries of the Lithuanian principality, Poland, the Russian Empire, and the USSR! and in connection with this multinational society left to live in this territory after the collapse of the latter and which actually created where we live shyas! and it follows from here that any fermentation in society with a weak state apparatus can lead to the collapse of the next artificially created USSR State, so that no matter how much someone likes Comrade Lukashchenko, there really is no alternative! the only difference from dill here, in my opinion, is still a strong historical memory, so if they allow it, DON'T GIVE GOD a script to develop it, it will obviously not creep into the west
              1. Bram_neumann
                Bram_neumann 15 July 2015 15: 06
                -1
                Monsieur case does not work on REN-TV. They also like to make a venigret from facts and information in their dock films. This is a classic tactic to pile everything up so that the subscriber understands it. But personally, I'm not going to mess with this venigret. And once again, if Monsieur does not work on REN-TV, then he definitely should get there

                Z.Y. Comrade regresSSR your post is assessed as verbal incontinence. Although there is a more accurate expression, but the mods will not miss it
    3. noWAR
      noWAR 14 July 2015 10: 02
      +2
      You are a huge MINUS, I'm from the minority am for crax am
    4. smphantom
      smphantom 14 July 2015 20: 16
      +3
      Otkel firewood?
      I have never heard anti-Russian statements ...
  8. Krakc
    Krakc 14 July 2015 07: 36
    -4
    .... In 1999 we dispersed, in 2001 we dispersed, in 2006 we dispersed, in 2010 we dispersed, and now we will disperse if they break our laws !!! ....
    it is interesting to know - what did young people violate when a couple of years ago they just sat on October ?.
    After that, the law was passed - no more than three are going to., Well, more precisely, only after the permission of the authorities is possible.
    such a universal law - under all can be applied - for bruises near the store or grandmothers near the bench. or against quiet youth ...
    1. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 14 July 2015 08: 39
      +3
      Quote: KraKC
      it is interesting to know - what did young people violate when a couple of years ago they just sat on October?

      As I understand it, summer 2011?
      I didn't write anything about this time! hi
      In addition, any bureaucracy has enough of its own insanity.
      Especially with the ban on pop singers following the 2010 elections. I think this complete idiocy not a very distant act. hi
      Here is Makarevich checked said all sorts of nonsense - and without any prohibitions he is not particularly favored.
  9. moL4yn
    moL4yn 14 July 2015 07: 48
    +13
    Strange article. As a person living in Minsk, I want to note that pro-Russian sentiments are very strong. We follow Ukraine closely and understand who and why. Your troops TOGETHER interact with ours. Therefore, I do not understand the meaning of the article. You better put things in order, and do not write about the allegedly dangerous situation in Belarus.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 14 July 2015 07: 54
      +3
      Quote: moL4yn
      As a person living in Minsk, I want to note that the pro-Russian sentiments are very strong.

      Well, the author here and for all Minskers signed ...
      He, apparently, is one of those who lack these very Western values.
      1. DimYang
        DimYang 14 July 2015 08: 48
        +2
        Quote: Egoza
        Well, the author here and for all Minskers signed ...
        He, apparently, is one of those who lack these very Western values.


        But what is not there? He is not talking about Western values. And about pro-Russian sentiments. I would not say that all polls, but there are, as there are pro-Western.
        1. 0255
          0255 14 July 2015 09: 16
          +1
          Quote: dimyan
          Quote: Egoza
          Well, the author here and for all Minskers signed ...
          He, apparently, is one of those who lack these very Western values.


          But what is not there? He is not talking about Western values. And about pro-Russian sentiments. I would not say that all polls, but there are, as there are pro-Western.

          I agree with you! It is worth writing an article about pro-Western sentiments in Belarus, commentators will immediately appear about the fact that the article is a stuffing-box paid for by the Western special services, the author will also be declared a Western agent. It is worth writing that not everything is as beautiful in our country as the Russians think - they can maliciously minus, call Svidomo a liberal.
          And the author of the article is right.
          1. Bram_neumann
            Bram_neumann 14 July 2015 12: 34
            +1
            And the author of the article is right

            The author of the article is. Who understands nothing and does not know about Belarus
      2. Ejik_026
        Ejik_026 14 July 2015 11: 09
        +3
        You are wrong. It's just that he, like me, does not want someone to climb with their dirty hands into our state. We'll figure it out ourselves. I equally do not like the fact that both the Russian Federation and the West are getting in our way. Although the Russian Federation is at least closer in spirit, but this is already in my opinion.
        You have a lot of problems of your own, so deal with them. And we will try to stretch our country.
        Although sometimes there is a feeling that it would be easier to enter the Russian Federation with the rights of Crimea and Sevastopol.
        1. 0255
          0255 14 July 2015 12: 03
          +1
          Quote: Ejik_026
          ... We will figure it out ourselves ... And we will try to stretch our country.

          Already "pulled out". Enterprises collapse completely, people do not receive salaries for months, our prices are higher than in the neighboring Baltic states, Poland, Russia and Ukraine, the ruble is constantly falling under the slogan "to increase confidence in the national currency", but Minsk is clean and beautiful.

          Poems about Belarus
          ==============================
          PERFECT SOCIETY
          ==============================
          I go out into the street - clean around!
          We are proud of cleanliness! We live in purity!
          Total cleanliness is not a whim!
          "Poor, but neat" - a country motto!
          Is the production dead? We put a cross on it!
          Our holy goal is cleanliness in the neighborhood!
          Millions of janitors create comfort!
          Waving with brooms - they sing songs!
          The songs are fun! Sad not one!
          Each song is famous for the "social order"!
          Story - original: wipers and power -
          Such a structure of society in the world can not be found!
          Janitor - sweeping! Power - Leads ...
          The structure is perfect! Who will argue here ?!
          1. smphantom
            smphantom 14 July 2015 20: 25
            +2
            They don't get paid for months .. "
            Who are these "lucky ones"?
            Do you know the law? This is where "even a one-time payment of a salary not on time is a reason for removing the head" ??
            1. 0255
              0255 14 July 2015 21: 18
              0
              Quote: smphantom
              They don't get paid for months .. "
              Who are these "lucky ones"?

              In my city, employees of one state. factories are on strike, 4 months have not been paid. And 7 years ago this plant was considered one of the few actually working. Even Belstat is a miracle! - admitted that many state. enterprises people did not receive a salary for months. Even if the lying Belstat admitted it, it means that the Belarusian factories are shitty. sad
  10. RuslanNN
    RuslanNN 14 July 2015 07: 55
    +4
    Who cares who they vote for. The main thing is who considers these voices. So there will be a continuation of the kingdom of Lukashenko. And about the Maidan in Belarus delirium. Belarusians don’t need it and they understand it.
    1. Krakc
      Krakc 14 July 2015 08: 15
      +3
      Maidan in Belarus is not real. Attempts to make the Maidan will be suppressed in the bud.
      1. Ejik_026
        Ejik_026 14 July 2015 11: 10
        +4
        Why are they suppressed, I myself will go to suppress if I find out that there were some stupid people to arrange it with us.
  11. Krakc
    Krakc 14 July 2015 08: 01
    -4
    Quote: genadevich169
    Russians in Belarus should be loved for the simple reason that Russians and Belarusians are one nation. If you do not understand this, this is not your place!


    This is a strong argument. children's such. a couple of years ago you could also say about Ukraine and Russia ...

    Quote: moL4yn
    Strange article. As a person living in Minsk, I want to note that pro-Russian sentiments are very strong.

    do not pass off wishful thinking ... or else what good Russians will believe in this nonsense.
    1. moL4yn
      moL4yn 14 July 2015 08: 35
      +6
      Respected. If you live in Minsk, I propose to meet and conduct a mini survey on the streets of the city.
      1. prosto_rgb
        prosto_rgb 14 July 2015 09: 31
        -2
        Quote: moL4yn
        Respected. If you live in Minsk, I propose to meet and conduct a mini survey on the streets of the city.

        Your "mini poll on the streets of the city" with a high degree of probability will not be representative, and therefore its results cannot be extended to the entire society.
        In addition, social services. polls in the Republic of Belarus are regulated by regulatory documents, in general it will not be entirely legal.
      2. noWAR
        noWAR 14 July 2015 10: 07
        +2
        And where did you get respect for the "respected"? For me respect must be earned hi
  12. o4kapik
    o4kapik 14 July 2015 08: 05
    +2
    Quote: KraKC
    .... In 1999 we dispersed, in 2001 we dispersed, in 2006 we dispersed, in 2010 we dispersed, and now we will disperse if they break our laws !!! ....
    it is interesting to know - what did young people violate when a couple of years ago they just sat on October ?.
    After that, the law was passed - no more than three are going to., Well, more precisely, only after the permission of the authorities is possible.
    such a universal law - under all can be applied - for bruises near the store or grandmothers near the bench. or against quiet youth ...

    You probably frequent Charter 97?
  13. Krakc
    Krakc 14 July 2015 08: 14
    -1
    do not believe it - opovskie sites - I do not visit at all.
  14. ork_333
    ork_333 14 July 2015 08: 38
    +4
    Quote: dimyan
    As if he himself did not violate them. The people have the right to overthrow him. Most of them no longer support him, Minsk residents hate fiercely. Oh, and Kolenko, the little ghoul generally annoys the population.

    Said it suddenly and bluntly! Directly for the whole country decided! Dear, speak for yourself, not everyone.
    Quote: dimyan
    Upyrenysh absolutely deserved. He bit the flight attendant's hand to the bone when she did not allow him to close the door on the plane. And with the words "when I grow up I will become a minister and I will order you to be shot" and this is not a story. And yes, I am a Gomel resident and I also despise him.

    Such stories are worthy of grandmothers at the entrances. They will sketch a hundred of them for you.
    Quote: dimyan
    This collective farm ub .... to the main obstacle to the integration process. He said earlier that not one is white. the enterprise will not be sold, which in fact, is now selling a lot, but there are no buyers. Pragmatism is present in his politics, but it’s some kind of tricky one, all of which is only for sitting on the throne. Plus various chairs ... This policy is very similar to political prostitution. And she, in turn, knows what leads.

    Lord, when will this nonsense about "chairs" stop ?! Come up with something new, fresh!
    Quote: dimyan
    In the Kremlin, it’s time to think about changing the arrogant collective farm cattle, he observes all military agreements with Russia only so that he would have a trump card in a conversation with the West and if the West makes a weighty offer, he will immediately curtail his military alliance obligation (especially since the rules of the Customs Union are regularly violated), while it will be mandatory to shout that some internal Russian forces have encroached on the independence of the blue-eyed. And the West is us dapamagae. There were already examples, not far away. It’s just that not everything was expressed to them to the end.

    If I were you, I would not write comments while intoxicated. In addition, I recommend contacting a psychologist, they do not joke with the Napoleon complex.
    Quote: KraKC
    .... In 1999 we dispersed, in 2001 we dispersed, in 2006 we dispersed, in 2010 we dispersed, and now we will disperse if they break our laws !!! ....
    it is interesting to know - what did young people violate when a couple of years ago they just sat on October ?.
    After that, the law was passed - no more than three are going to., Well, more precisely, only after the permission of the authorities is possible.
    such a universal law - under all can be applied - for bruises near the store or grandmothers near the bench. or against quiet youth ...

    I would like to ask - what devil was this youth sitting on Oktyabrskaya? Are your legs tired? Or did the "always against" instinct work? The type that Makarevich always had?
    1. DimYang
      DimYang 14 July 2015 09: 12
      -4
      Quote: ork_333
      Said it suddenly and bluntly! Directly for the whole country decided! Dear, speak for yourself, not everyone.


      Not for everyone, but for myself. State your opinion.

      Quote: ork_333
      Such stories are worthy of grandmothers at the entrances. They will sketch a hundred of them for you.


      It is a fact. True, you will not find it in any Belarusian newspaper. In such cases, knowledgeable people on the position are silent, but at the same time they quietly nod their heads.

      Quote: ork_333
      Lord, when will this nonsense about "chairs" stop ?! Come up with something new, fresh!


      Is it really not so?

      Quote: ork_333
      If I were you, I would not write comments while intoxicated. In addition, I recommend contacting a psychologist, they do not joke with the Napoleon complex.


      I wonder what else to expect from a representative of lovers and defenders of gypsy ub..s?
  15. Max otto
    Max otto 14 July 2015 09: 11
    +7
    what is it?
    ... Can you tell right away how many Russians live in Belarus? Can you name the regions and places where they specifically live? Unlikely - this information is not advertised. What can we say, even if there are no significant Russian diasporas in the country at all! Yes, they speak and think in the same language, but the structure of society is different, self-awareness is still different ...

    It's like looking for Rostov or Vologda diasporas in Moscow, what kind of diasporas? Why suddenly the structure of society is different? It's just a star of what the author's thoughts are, you will break up into diasporas in your family. After that, the entire article turned into unnecessary stupid scribbling, thrown out of my head.
  16. mantu namochil
    mantu namochil 14 July 2015 09: 13
    0
    Another lover to sit on two chairs.
  17. Jatviag
    Jatviag 14 July 2015 09: 23
    +4
    The very phrase "elections in Belarus" is already ridiculous! We don't have any elections.
    1. Governor
      Governor 14 July 2015 20: 27
      +2
      Just like ours! Let's be sad together ...
      1. Pissarro
        Pissarro 14 July 2015 22: 11
        +1
        for those who do not want to be sad, you can take a club and Molotov cocktail and have fun like our third sister in embroidered shirt does. We all have one choice, either endure the king, or enjoy freedom and democracy to the fullest. However, not only here, from Tunisia to Hong Kong the same
  18. zoknyay82
    zoknyay82 14 July 2015 09: 53
    +1
    "... Then there really won't be discord in our society ..."
    In principle, I am not against the monarchy, but remember the history of the Russian State! Why Batu easily defeated Russia? Why was Vasily called the Dark One? How many wives were poisoned by Ivan Vasilievich? And you say "there will be no discord." As long as there is power (any) there will be those wishing to seize it (in any way).
  19. bender8282
    bender8282 14 July 2015 10: 37
    +1
    if the "father" leaves. then most likely we will lose Belarus ... \
  20. Bram_neumann
    Bram_neumann 14 July 2015 11: 22
    0
    from "Russians with a quality mark"

    This is one of the phrases that would make it easier to pull babos out of the Russian Federation. No more
    The RB was supposed to support the foreign course of the Russian Federation and at least not recognize the junta during the same time and reduce the volume of trade with Ukraine. But this was not noticeable.

    1. Belarus will not participate in the Kremlin's adventures, especially the military
    2. Why should Belarus have to reduce the volume of trade with Ukraine.
    conditionally banned Russian marches or organizations like RNU

    All these rne and other lovers should be posed like rams. Without pity.
    Can you tell right away how many Russians live in Belarus? Can you name the regions and places where they specifically live?

    the author wants to organize a second Donbass in Belarus. The author is all right with his head
    Therefore, the Russian foreign policy bodies should remain vigilant and ... be prepared to help Belarus in its difficult choice

    The author suggests making Czechoslovakia-1968 from Belarus, or maybe Hungary-1956 from Belarus. Or maybe Afghanistan 1979
    1. 0255
      0255 14 July 2015 12: 09
      +4
      Quote: Bram_Neumann
      Belarus will not participate in the adventures of the Kremlin, especially military

      You can call the return of Crimea to the Russian Federation whatever you like, but it was necessary, while there was no fascist government in Ukraine, no one thought to bring polite people there. Want a NATO base on the Russian border? If God forbid Russia falls, then we will be "de-democratized" like Iraq and Libya. In 1999, when NATO bombed Yugoslavia, there was talk that they would bomb us next. If not for the alliance with the Russian Federation, it would have been so
      1. Bram_neumann
        Bram_neumann 14 July 2015 21: 03
        -6
        You can call the return of Crimea to the Russian Federation as you like, but it was necessary

        oh yes yes NATO would have organized a base there. But these forager-bearers did not teach geography.
        Want a NATO base on the Russian border

        Absolutely up to the pager.
        Want a NATO base on the Russian border

        Belarus has been bordering NATO since 1999 and it doesn't bother me at all.
        In 1999, when NATO bombed Yugoslavia

        Let the Serbs say thanks to Milosevic. He wouldn’t be so stubborn. There were no wars in Yugoslavia.
        In 1999, when NATO bombed Yugoslavia, there was talk that the next would bomb us

        OBS - one grandmother said. Well, now I want to hear the reason why NATO could bomb Belarus in 1999
        1. 0255
          0255 14 July 2015 21: 26
          +4
          Quote: Bram_Neumann
          You can call the return of Crimea to the Russian Federation as you like, but it was necessary

          oh yes yes NATO would have organized a base there. But these forager-bearers did not teach geography.

          Look at the film "Crimea. The Way to the Homeland". Although for you this is "cotton-putler-Kiselyov propaganda", it is useless for you to explain.
          Well, now I want to hear the reason why NATO in 1999 could bomb Belarus

          Ask Clinton or Bush. Since we have been declared a totalitarian and undemocratic country, it means that the West needs us, if only to get even closer to the Russian borders.
          1. Bram_neumann
            Bram_neumann 15 July 2015 00: 24
            -1
            Look at the film "Crimea. The Way to the Homeland"

            There is such a thing as criticism of the source
            ps watched. junk
            Ask Clinton or Bush

            They don't interest me, I didn't ask them a question No.
  21. Belarus
    Belarus 14 July 2015 11: 22
    +3
    Belarusian Football Federation has established contact with the US Embassy
    enter in the search engine this article title, very entertaining. In fact, our RB Federation gave direct access to the gene pool of our nation.
    And this is also considered the achievement of the AHL am .
    I have respect for the Russian Federation, the child was returned to me there from the other world, since in our country "world-class medicine" is what is also an achievement of the AHL ?????
    But I sincerely don’t understand why the Russian Federation scored in Belarus, I don’t understand. There are no days of Russian culture, Russian books, Russian cinema, NOTHING is being held at all. It’s a feeling that this has never happened in Russia or it doesn’t need it in RB.
    In our country, in my opinion, there have been several opinions of people: those who hate the AHL, those who hate the Russian Federation, those who hate both the AHL and the Russian Federation. Agree that to put it mildly, it causes some concern.
  22. captain7
    captain7 14 July 2015 11: 56
    +2
    Many people write, a collective farmer, a political prostitute, sitting on two chairs, etc. Now imagine such a person in the governor's seat of one of our regions. I think everyone would like to see this in their place, instead of the current temporary workers. Two years ago I moved to Minsk from the north of Russia and do not feel like a stranger here. I never cease to be surprised at the advantageous difference between Belarusian reality and the situation in our regions. Moscow does not count, it always stood apart. So you shouldn't berate your dad, the owner is not bad. And politics is the matter, here you have to catch, smile, bang your fist if necessary. There is no alternative to it 100% and is not necessary.
    1. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 14 July 2015 21: 20
      +2
      Quote: captain7
      And politics is the matter, here you have to catch, smile, bang your fist if necessary.

      From therefore, in the USA, 2 parties and presidents are changed every 8 years, and if it sows, then after 4 they are removed. But, which is characteristic of any party and president, politics is always in the interests of the United States. Well, it’s clear that the US is run not by presidential actors, but by completely different people.
      Quote: captain7
      There is no alternative to it 100%

      That's just that people do not live for 10000 years, so an alternative will have to be found, and it is better if he finds it himself. Either he will prepare a successor, or others will do it for him. For: A holy place is never empty.
  23. gregor6549
    gregor6549 14 July 2015 12: 01
    0
    The election results will be the same as in the elections to the USSR Armed Forces in Soviet times. T, e, even if someone is dissatisfied with Lukashenko, he will still vote "FOR". And if "AGAINST" he is politely corrected (or corrected) and may even say "Well, you're wrong, Vasya"
  24. The legacy of ancestors
    The legacy of ancestors 14 July 2015 12: 13
    0
    Quote: inkass_98
    Father, for all his cunning, he was and remains the head of the state farm. And he simply was not attracted by such gingerbread cookies as were offered to skakal. For too long, he showed loyalty to Russia, which is why he fell into the category of dictators. Now the picture is slightly changing, the bourgeoisie began to communicate with him for well-known and well-defined reasons, he began to drift even more. Hence all these demarches with junta and self-reliance. Where their own forces and money come from is elementary. Smuggling of goods to Russia, speculation in oil products and gas supplied by Russia at low prices. After all, one of Luke’s riots coincided with an attempt to give him his hands for it.
    The elections are close, the cunning pretzel will win again, but they must prepare their candidate, 100% pro-Russian, for the next, otherwise the son Kolenka will take the throne, the monster spoiled by the pope, still snotty, but already knows a lot about himself.


    Quite precisely, everything is said regarding Lukashenko and his KolEnka.
  25. 03_01
    03_01 14 July 2015 12: 19
    -2
    Quote: captain7
    Here many write, a collective farmer, a political prostitute, sits on two chairs, etc ... And now imagine such a person in the governor's place of one of our regions. I think everyone would like to see this at home, instead of the current snatchers-temporary workers. I moved two years ago to Minsk from the north of Russia and do not feel like a stranger here. I never cease to be amazed at the advantageous distinction Belarusian reality from the situation in our regions. Moscow does not count, it always stood apart. So in vain do you scold the dad, the housekeeper is not bad. But politics is such a thing, here you have to catch, smile, punch with your fist if necessary. There is no alternative to it 100% and is not necessary.


    Have you moved to Minsk and are you comparing the situation in the capital with the Russian province? Well, go for a change somewhere in Chausy, live there - the enthusiasm will immediately decrease.

    But in fact: it is so "talented" to profuse nishtyaks from the "oil offshore", having buried billions in cement plants and wood processing, this is, indeed, an indicator of a "smart business executive".
    1. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 14 July 2015 21: 27
      +5
      Quote: 03_01
      having buried billions in cement plants and wood processing plants, this is indeed an indicator of a "smart business executive".

      And what do you personally offer?
      Add money to the stub. fund in western banks? And wait until the accounts are blocked there?
      The problem of "cement factories and wood processing" is that the modernization was carried out by idle talkers and populists (or maybe outright fools), naturally not forgetting to cut money as officials in fraternal Russia do.
  26. E-man
    E-man 14 July 2015 12: 54
    +1
    The article is one-sided and is designed for throwing in against Lukashenko and the obvious reaction of the protest. The reality is that in Belarus, the political stability achieved by Lukashenko’s policies, and he doesn’t see a replacement, each of the candidates with his program signs his desire to lie under some kind of patron, be it the EU or the Russian Federation. But - there is an economic decline, it is caused by the fact that Lukashenko is afraid to change something in the existing inefficient model. Of course, he is trying to spin due to various tricks, but nevertheless, the economic model of Belarus drags the country into a swamp. As soon as a business candidate with a clear economic plan and a minimum of policy in the program appears, the majority will vote for him. In the meantime, only political opponents are trying to compete with Lukashenko, the whole point of which is that everything will be fine when we lie under someone else.

    In the comments, there are hints about "they need to help them", "they need their own candidate", "Lukashenka is not loyal" ... and he cares about his country, not yours, and you better not meddle in the affairs of someone else's, albeit friendly state.
  27. 03_01
    03_01 14 July 2015 13: 24
    +2
    Quote: E-man


    In the comments, there are hints about "they need to help them", "they need their own candidate", "Lukashenka is not loyal" ... and he cares about his country, not yours, and you better not meddle in the affairs of someone else's, albeit friendly state.


    "Who dines a girl, he dances her" (c) you know such wisdom? Russia is the main creditor of the Belarusian model of the "economic miracle" and, like any other creditor, it is interested in the return of its money and will always be present in the affairs of the "friendly state".
  28. E-man
    E-man 14 July 2015 13: 57
    +1
    Quote: 03_01
    Quote: E-man


    In the comments, there are hints about "they need to help them", "they need their own candidate", "Lukashenka is not loyal" ... and he cares about his country, not yours, and you better not meddle in the affairs of someone else's, albeit friendly state.


    "Who dines a girl, he dances her" (c) you know such wisdom? Russia is the main creditor of the Belarusian model of the "economic miracle" and, like any other creditor, it is interested in the return of its money and will always be present in the affairs of the "friendly state".


    She is already present in business as a business partner and friendly state within the framework of the Customs Union and many other agreements and transactions. But here is to get into the political system and try to decide who will lead Belarus ... Belarus is not yet an area of ​​the Russian Federation.
  29. 03_01
    03_01 14 July 2015 14: 15
    +3
    Quote: E-man
    Quote: 03_01
    Quote: E-man


    In the comments, there are hints about "they need to help them", "they need their own candidate", "Lukashenka is not loyal" ... and he cares about his country, not yours, and you better not meddle in the affairs of someone else's, albeit friendly state.


    "Who dines a girl, he dances her" (c) you know such wisdom? Russia is the main creditor of the Belarusian model of the "economic miracle" and, like any other creditor, it is interested in the return of its money and will always be present in the affairs of the "friendly state".


    She is already present in business as a business partner and friendly state within the framework of the Customs Union and many other agreements and transactions. But here is to get into the political system and try to decide who will lead Belarus ... Belarus is not yet an area of ​​the Russian Federation.


    Let me tell you a big secret: there are not so many completely independent and independent states in the world - the United States, China and Russia ... Russia at any time, if desired, can "get into the political system and decide who will lead Belarus" and does not do it not because of the awesome independence of Belarus, but only because its top management is still satisfied with the state of affairs in the blue-eyed.
    Independence costs money, which Belarus simply does not have. So, less pathos about Independence, in 1996 some shouted about it even more, until the "landing of Russian parliamentarians" arrived ...
  30. pratskevich
    pratskevich 14 July 2015 14: 28
    +2
    The author of the article definitely knows little about Belarus, he does not take into account the fact that most of the young people work in large cities of Russia, and their parents, looking at their southern neighbors, are definitely not inclined to changes similar to those in Ukraine, so everything is calm, "Father will stay with us .. . "
    P / S the one who talks about the Maidan in Minsk, just not when he did not live in Belarus))) there the GB knows everything and everyone.
    It is impossible in Minsk on Independence Square to stand on the stage and put up tents against Alexander Grigoryevich.
  31. provincial
    provincial 14 July 2015 14: 34
    +2
    Let's wait. And we will believe the Belarusian people. And Belarusians will tell us your territory is not needed.
  32. shilov-mob
    shilov-mob 14 July 2015 14: 36
    +4
    Now the word STABILITY has acquired much more weight than all kinds of promises from no one knows who. Having looked at the events in neighboring countries, many of my acquaintances who were skeptical of Lukashenka, say that they will vote for him. We have already lived in a "time of change", maybe they should try it overseas.
    1. 0255
      0255 14 July 2015 15: 59
      +2
      Quote: shilov-mob
      Now the word STABILITY has gained much more weight than all sorts of promises from an unknown person.

      Where did you see stability in Belarus? belay In our country, the US dollar is growing steadily along with prices, and Belarusian goods are stably in stock and not for sale. Nothing more stable, I do not see
      1. shilov-mob
        shilov-mob 14 July 2015 16: 35
        +1
        Where did you see stability in Belarus? In our country, the US dollar is growing steadily along with prices, and Belarusian goods are stably in stock and not for sale. Nothing more stable, I do not see


        Is the state dollar a model of stability? At least I know that now you can safely go out for a walk with the children. And they will not starve me now. And what will happen in the event of a change of power, I do not know, although I guess. An uncle from across the ocean wants to set fire to everything around Russia. It’s time to already think about the changes overseas, otherwise somehow it is not fair.
        1. 0255
          0255 14 July 2015 17: 10
          0
          Quote: shilov-mob
          Is the state dollar a model of stability?

          Compared to the Belarusian ruble, yes. Especially when all prices in the country are tied to this very dollar. On BT, our "analysts" like to tell us how the dollar depreciated, but for some reason they don't talk about the depreciation of the Belarusian ruble against the dollar. Remember 2011.
          At least I know that now you can safely go out for a walk with the children. And they will not starve me now

          Soon we will come to life as an honest traffic cop from the 2nd season of the series "Our Russia". Let's see how safe it will be then ...
  33. shilov-mob
    shilov-mob 14 July 2015 14: 44
    +2
    Who lived during the Soviet era, the secretaries of the Central Committee of the CPSU took away a lot ... did they live badly?
  34. Dan Slav
    Dan Slav 14 July 2015 15: 52
    +3
    A big alternative to Lukashenko is not visible. Probably someone is, but who? It could be enlightened by users from Belarus, but here they clung to something in a clinch on the theme of love for the Old Man and the child.
    In Belarus I was in the summer for three years in a row. In a village in the outback. All liked it. And the people and the state of the country. Yes, everything has risen in price, but our prices are only rising. Prices soared up in Russia well. And the declared hunger strike by Russia in response to sanctions is not a plus.
    But in Russia there is oil, gas, metals, ... Belarus does not have much of this, but it holds on.
    Including due to the same Lukashenko! IMHO!
    Opinion: who would be his opponent-receiver, I would like to hear!
    In principle, you can find your DAM there too. It will be like ours in dash-dotted, but mostly continuous, GDP. The difference is small. Only there it is open, but here with the Europenis style, so as not to pester. )))
    1. 0255
      0255 14 July 2015 16: 06
      +3
      Beautiful clean streets of Belarusian cities are one thing, and stable rolling of the country in the ass with ostentatious beauty and cleanliness is another. Live in Belarus for at least a couple of months, you will be disappointed. And the country keeps at the expense of loans from the IMF, Russia, China and sometimes the EU. Which are spent on non-paying ice palaces, and not on production or agriculture.
      1. shilov-mob
        shilov-mob 14 July 2015 16: 47
        +1
        Do not breed panic. Of course, it keeps at the expense of loans - this is the principle of the modern economy, the states over how much and nothing, are not particularly upset. If we don’t stick together, then we will definitely have an ass one by one.
        1. 0255
          0255 14 July 2015 17: 26
          +4
          Quote: shilov-mob
          Do not breed panic. Of course, it keeps at the expense of loans - this is the principle of the modern economy, the states over how much and nothing, are not particularly upset.

          Another BRSM- "analytics" about how bad everywhere you go? Hear less nonsense about the US rotting and falling apart. The collapse of the United States is a good thing. But only we are rolling in deep ass, not the states. How many years they are promised a quick collapse both from the debt, and from all sorts of al-Qaeda and Isis, well, where is he? Maybe you need to think to yourself, and not indulge yourself with hopes for the collapse of the states?
          The factories are shutting down under the slogan "Sahranim proizvodstva", people are sitting without wages for months, our prices are the highest in comparison with our neighbors, only ice palaces are being built, entrepreneurship is being stifled by the highest taxes. And money for payments on loans is being pulled from the people by all sorts of taxes on parasitism and devaluations, which "do not exist." Can't you see it yourself?
          1. shilov-mob
            shilov-mob 14 July 2015 18: 03
            +5
            USA crash is good

            Yes, there is nothing good here, but if there is supreme justice, then the United States is waiting for the collapse.

            And I personally, I know how to live in the present situation, but I do not want to live in a time of change again. I have a job, my wife is paid childcare allowance, my parents have a pension, grandmothers, God grant them health, receive a pension, free medicines for children up to a year, kindergarten - pay only for meals, what else can I tell you?
      2. prosto_rgb
        prosto_rgb 14 July 2015 21: 45
        +2
        Quote: 0255
        Which are spent on non-paying ice palaces, and not on production or agriculture.

        They modernized cement plants, invested money in woodworking, but everyone still doesn’t like it.
        Not a lot of money has been invested in agriculture, therefore, there are also food products of their own. And agricultural machinery is also its own. Milk, butter, margarine in Belarusian stores, too, are by no means made from palm oil.
        In 1994, the grain harvest was less than 2 million tons, now from 7 to 10, depending on weather conditions.
        But many still grumble that father had buried money in the ground, all food must be purchased abroad.
        I hope the summer of 2010 and remember the dynamics of changes in world food prices?
        What else can I say?
        Everywhere is good - where WE ARE NOT. hi
        1. 0255
          0255 14 July 2015 21: 59
          +3
          Quote: prosto_rgb
          Quote: 0255
          Which are spent on non-paying ice palaces, and not on production or agriculture.

          They modernized cement plants, invested money in woodworking, but everyone still doesn’t like it.

          Listen to less BT about "made production". In my city, 2 defense plants died (now they have been converted into shopping centers), a machine-tool plant, a metalwork plant, and powder metallurgy. MAZ, BelAZ, MTZ work at the warehouse. Many Minsk factories, which thrived during the Soviet era, rent out their premises or sell them to private owners. A lot of people work 3-4 days a week.
          1. prosto_rgb
            prosto_rgb 14 July 2015 22: 57
            0
            Quote: 0255
            Listen to less BT

            So I don’t listen to him.
            Quote: 0255
            In my city, 2 defense plants died (they have now been converted into shopping centers), a machine-tool plant, a plant for metal structures, and powder metallurgy

            What a coincidence, in my similar situation. And considering that there is only one powder metallurgy plant in Belarus, vague doubts torment me ...
            Year of city formation, as I understand it, 1388?
            1. 0255
              0255 14 July 2015 23: 04
              +1
              Quote: prosto_rgb
              Year of city formation, as I understand it, 1388?

              Yes yes
              1. prosto_rgb
                prosto_rgb 15 July 2015 07: 09
                +1
                Quote: 0255
                Quote: prosto_rgb
                Year of city formation, as I understand it, 1388?

                Yes yes

                soldier
                Well then for our city of sunshine drinks, if you do not mind. hi
    2. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 14 July 2015 21: 34
      0
      Quote: Dan Slav
      Opinion: who would be his opponent-receiver, I would like to hear!

      This would be desirable not only to you. hi
  35. Krakc
    Krakc 14 July 2015 16: 06
    +1
    Quote: Ejik_026
    Looks like woodworking

    only already director Borisovdrev at large ... paid off ....
    a scene was played in public: a bad director, a good king.
  36. 03_01
    03_01 14 July 2015 16: 19
    +2
    Quote: Dan Slav
    A big alternative to Lukashenko is not visible. Probably someone is, but who? It could be enlightened by users from Belarus, but here they clung to something in a clinch on the theme of love for the Old Man and the child.
    In Belarus I was in the summer for three years in a row. In a village in the outback. All liked it. And the people and the state of the country. Yes, everything has risen in price, but our prices are only rising. Prices soared up in Russia well. And the declared hunger strike by Russia in response to sanctions is not a plus.
    But in Russia there is oil, gas, metals, ... Belarus does not have much of this, but it holds on.
    Including due to the same Lukashenko! IMHO!
    Opinion: who would be his opponent-receiver, I would like to hear!
    In principle, you can find your DAM there too. It will be like ours in dash-dotted, but mostly continuous, GDP. The difference is small. Only there it is open, but here with the Europenis style, so as not to pester. )))


    In fact, a sane and intelligible alternative to Lukashenko is currently not visible, IMHO. Any more or less well-known opposition politicians with a rating at the level of statistical error are not competitors to him, so are sparring partners to imitate the political process.
    He himself, half jokingly, declared that he was preparing his youngest son as a successor, but in every joke there is a fraction of the joke as they say. Lukashenko himself is still quite young (60 years old for a politician not age), it seems like he is healthy (physically at least) and the authorities are unlikely to give up the next 10-15 years if there is no force majeure.
  37. shilov-mob
    shilov-mob 14 July 2015 16: 29
    +2
    Quote: 0255
    Quote: shilov-mob
    Now the word STABILITY has gained much more weight than all sorts of promises from an unknown person.

    Where did you see stability in Belarus? belay In our country, the US dollar is growing steadily along with prices, and Belarusian goods are stably in stock and not for sale. Nothing more stable, I do not see


    Is the state dollar a model of stability? At least I know that now you can safely go out for a walk with the children. And they will not starve me now. And what will happen in the event of a change of power, I do not know, although I guess. An uncle from across the ocean wants to set fire to everything around Russia. It’s time to already think about the changes overseas, otherwise somehow it is not fair.
  38. shilov-mob
    shilov-mob 14 July 2015 16: 53
    +2
    Quote: hedgehog in the fog
    ay, read above, I am against BPF and pidosia, as well as against bows, and in general I think we should enter Russia in 6 areas, as it has been for almost 200 years


    do not drive horses, they do not change them at the crossing :)
  39. dmitrymb
    dmitrymb 14 July 2015 17: 14
    0
    In the USSR, 16 years after the war and devastation, people were sent into space, and in Belarus healthy young people over 20 years of rule, if the old people do not help, they have no prospects, there is no money, and at least they gave the youth land, and so "bondage" unenlightened .......................
    1. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 14 July 2015 21: 54
      +1
      Quote: dmitrymb
      at least gave the land of youth

      The village is full of empty land, even with built houses and in some places with gas supplied.
      But, a person who has grown up in urban conditions does not really strive for the village.
      Alas and ah, such is the reality.
    2. alexey garbuz
      alexey garbuz 15 July 2015 00: 05
      0
      Have you tried to go to work?
  40. Paul
    Paul 14 July 2015 21: 07
    +2
    Quote: Sveik
    Quote: dimyan
    Upyrenysh absolutely deserved. He bit the flight attendant's hand to the bone when she did not allow him to close the door on the plane. And with the words "when I grow up I will become a minister and I will order you to be shot" and this is not a story. And yes, I am a Gomel resident and I also despise him.


    Have you personally seen this? I doubt it.
    You are a talker


    I agree (OBS) - one woman said
  41. fa2998
    fa2998 14 July 2015 21: 37
    -2
    Quote: KraKC
    it’s not clear - why do Russians think that they should be loved in Belarus? More than half of the people, so sure, do not have a special love for Russia.

    Of course, all the revenues of the Belarusian budget come from Russia. They process Russian oil, export (re-export) food products (Belarusian oysters, mussels, salmon, and a lot of other things that are not produced in Belarus, they re-stick labels). That's who made money on the sanctions! Well, in the industry-the main market-Rossiya.Rossiya will buy everything, help out the "allies". Soon the harvest, we will see "Belarusian olives and oranges"! yes hi
    1. sapporo1959
      sapporo1959 15 July 2015 00: 25
      0
      Well, why wouldn’t the countrymen throw up olives and oranges if you don’t have your own! We are sorry for the dear Russians. Eat for health if there is enough money!
  42. ship
    ship 15 July 2015 00: 35
    +1
    I have not been to the moon. And, of course, I did not see anyone there, the state astronauts, too. But they say that they (the Americans) were supposed to be there, I don’t know, they probably lie. Or maybe not. And I don’t know whom to believe.
  43. Andruxax
    Andruxax 15 July 2015 00: 57
    +2
    Well, what could the zmagars and Europeans say 10 years ago (some say that there is even more to Lukashenko than now), we’re standing. Of course, it’s not worth brushing aside, but I think these elections against the background of Ukraine will be calm.
    Regarding Lukashenko and Parashenko, I agree it doesn’t work out well, but to be honest, Russia also did not help the Donbass as Crimea, still sells gas and stuff, and also don’t fight much with the junta.
  44. serverny
    serverny 15 July 2015 17: 43
    +2
    What place can Luke reproach with Poroshenko if Russia was the first to recognize piglets as the legitimate president?

    PS Well, how sorry was the troch of the "breeze" when Mariupol was already ready to fall into the clutches of Novorossiya - this is generally a piece of a very cunning plan, because "The Russian Federation is for the territorial integrity of Ukraine, let's better all come up with the Minsk plan."
  45. 03_01
    03_01 15 July 2015 20: 16
    0
    Quote: prosto_rgb
    Quote: 0255
    Which are spent on non-paying ice palaces, and not on production or agriculture.

    They modernized cement plants, invested money in woodworking, but everyone still doesn’t like it.
    Everywhere is good - where WE ARE NOT. hi


    Yeah, awesomely profitable investments - they invested and in fact received billions in losses both here and there: for cement plants, there is stupidly no sales, and even raw materials are not enough for woodworking. Wrecking, no?
  46. konvalval
    konvalval 17 July 2015 22: 56
    0
    Quote: rope
    I have a gift; I see the future as the new president will become Lukashenko)))

    For those who have the gift: Do not become, but become.
  47. Ivan the Fool
    Ivan the Fool 18 July 2015 15: 57
    0
    The dynamics of the population of the Republic of Belarus
    Thousands of people in 2009 as% of 1999
    1999 g. 2009 g.
    Republic of Belarus 10 045 9 489 94,5
    Areas:
    Brestskaya 1 485 1
    Vitebsk 1 377 1
    Gomel 1 545 1
    Grodno 1 185 1
    Minsk 1 680 1
    Minsk 1 559 1
    Mogilevskaya 1 214 1


    Thousands of people
    1975 g. 2009 g.
    Republic of Belarus 9 414 9 489
    Areas:
    Brestskaya 1 338
    Vitebsk 1 391
    Gomel 1 568
    Grodno 1 126
    Minsk 1 231 1 828
    Minsk 1 511
    Mogilevskaya 1 249