The real price of Chinese goods

“Every thirty seconds a disabled baby is born in China. Over the past ten years, factories have been moved from the east of the country to the central and western parts, thus significantly increasing the source of pollution. And although the Department of Environmental Protection closes many small businesses, some continue to work illegally ... "
World Press Photo 2015 is the most prestigious and largest international competition among news photo reporters. One of the most powerful photographs this year is a work from the "Progress and Pollution" series by Chinese photographer Lu Guang.

The picture shows the lifeless landscape of Choline-Gol - the urban county of Tonglyao district, Inner Mongolia in China. Emissions from the coal mine and the processing plant damaged the surrounding ecosystem, and the authorities, trying to improve the landscape, placed sheep sculptures on the former meadows.

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[vvvvv]

Very good material - with his atypical look. In geopolitical, technological and other competition, it turns out that everyone loses, neglecting nature, health, etc. in the race. The exploitation of nature, the destruction of animals and their habitats. So many ruin themselves, simply injecting personally for the loot - stress, exhaustion by work.
In countries with a high population density, the question of preserving animals is not at all - they eat everything moving ... But in megacities there is no ice with ecology.
There is a Soviet book "Harmful Chemicals" - everything is considered in detail ... READING VERY IMPRESSED ... Within a radius of 70 km near any plant there is a zone of soil contamination, and what causes an increased concentration of VHV is worth reading - these are all common diseases and pathologies, which may be attributed to other reasons ...
I am SURE that the problem is SILENT so that there is no panic and various lawsuits there ...
In general, products from suburban dachas are very dangerous, 100%, but many think otherwise ...

[RiverVV]

It depends on which enterprises are in the district.
Fertilizers and inorganic synthesis are not dangerous. The territory of the plant will be zaa, but the district will not notice it. If there is a plant for the production of inorganic fertilizers nearby, then pay attention to the yellow haze from the pipes: "fox tails". If they are long and always hang, then the cleaning is bad and it is better not to stand in the wind. This is nitrogen dioxide. Plants will even like it, but you yourself do not.
Ferrous metallurgy - people will have problems, even if they eat only imported bananas. The environment is most affected by air pollution, and the blast furnace is "all right" with this. Usually, if the plant itself is not in the lowlands, then the workers of the enterprise are mostly sick. In the photo with plastic sheep, the grass is killed by emissions from the accompanying sulfuric acid production.
Non-ferrous metallurgy - it’s generally better not to live closer than 50 kilometers. The soil will be polluted thoroughly, even mushrooms in this radius cannot be collected. Sulfur emissions are also included.
Organic chemistry (and related electrolysis) - in principle, you can be near and live, but something to grow in the garden closer than 10 km is better to watch out for. The spectrum of organic products is usually quite wide, and if an organochlorine in the air quickly decomposes by the sun, fluoride compounds can persist for years.
Thermal Power Plants - increase the level of background radiation and pollute the air. You can live nearby, but better not in the main direction of the wind.
Assembly production - they pollute only their own territory (well, roads with tanks).
Woodworking is safe until the landfill lights up.
Building materials are usually safe.

[zubkoff46]

Thank you for the qualified consultation.

[vvvvv]

That's just it, that in Russia dachas and products from them are a mass "tradition", as well as buying "ecological" products from the grandmothers from the dacha or from a village close to the city ...
And if the plant is not working today, then it could soil the soil from the day of its launch - a long time ago and when they did not even think about the simplest cleaning, but industrialization was going on ... All metals from the periodic table are contained in the soil in large excess. Well, about "along the roads" - they drove there for decades on gasoline definitely not from the "Euro series" ...
But, it’s better to read the VVH book once to be impressed, because experiments on animals and results are described there, as well as clinical data on diseases in humans. In general, there is no doubt that in addition to genetic and infectious diseases, all the rest are 99% due to poisoning of the waterborne virus ...

[RiverVV]

First: not "all metals". There is hardly any significant gold or palladium content in the ground around the route. The most common pollutants are cadmium, mercury and lead. Cadmium was used to protect against corrosion, lead - everyone has seen lead batteries in the landfill, and mercury is used in electrolyzers. The most dangerous thing is mercury. It spreads mainly in the biosphere. It is oxidized very slowly by air and at the same time passes into soluble salts, and is practically not excreted from the body (if absorbed).

It’s not realistic for an ordinary person to get lead. To do this, gobble up all the mushrooms along the Moscow-Peter highway. And the radioactive background along an ordinary road is even lower than the natural one. Gasoline is made from fossil fuels and lowered the content of radioactive carbon. The main pollutant on the road is carbon monoxide. So you can safely eat potatoes grown by the mother-in-law by the road. Her plans to poison you with lead are futile.

[501 Legion]

with ecology in china

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: 501Legion

with ecology in china

And you smell what Chinese children's toys or a cheap Chinese instrument smell like. Now imagine that if it stinks of a toy like that, then what a stink is where they are made !!!!!

[Altona]

Quote: 501Legion

with ecology in china

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With ecology and oncology ...

[user]

With ecology and oncology ..

There is not enough review of Norilsk or Novokuznetsk.

[Colonellee]

Thanks copied for the future

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: RiverVV

Fertilizers and inorganic synthesis are not dangerous. The territory of the plant will be zaa, but the district will not notice this. Building materials are usually safe.

Once I was on a business trip to Togliatti on Novozavodskaya street. There stood in a row Kuibyshevphosphorus, Sintezkauchuk, Volgocemmash and Tolyattiazot. After a week's stay at the hotel, the air in the toilet at the Kuybyshev railway station seemed unnaturally clean.

[apro]

Oh, it was precisely under such slogans and teary photos that Soviet industry was bombed, destroy yours to buy Western products made in new colonies where environmental laws do not even stutter, now you can see China too. There are problems and they need to be solved and not played on emotions.

[Fox]

Quote: apro

Oh, exactly under such slogans and tearful photos

yes ... only after Chinese greenhouses, the earth turns white and NOTHING grows ... and the greenhouses are covered by the chairman of the regional Duma Sazonov. who cares, near Samara, is full of Chinese greenhouses.

[apro]

Quote: Fox

Quote: apro

Oh, exactly under such slogans and tearful photos

yes ... only after Chinese greenhouses, the earth turns white and NOTHING grows ... and the greenhouses are covered by the chairman of the regional Duma Sazonov. who cares, near Samara, is full of Chinese greenhouses.

And now the question of backfill, why did the collective farms bomb? And why do they not mind? Why did they let the Chinese go and not let the locals work? The use of obscure chemicals by the Chinese is certainly a problem, but it is easily solved only who will do it?

[rosarioagro]

Quote: apro

And why don't they mind?

Because Prime Minister Medvedev said collective farms will not be revived

[valerysvy]

And now the question of backfill is why the collective farms bombed? And why do they not mind?

The question is about backfill - and who should revive them? Go and revive !!!!! What is the problem then?

[Lelek]

Quote: valerysvy

The question is about backfill - and who should revive them? Go and revive !!!!! What is the problem then?

In-in. Quintessence. Totally FOR.
Let "someone" revive, and I will criticize and troll him. Divinity, you know, is a dangerous disease.

[Semyonych]

The problem is in people like you, or people like you, it will be as you please.

[Lelek]

Quote: apro

only who will do this?

Well, I think it's not the LADIES government. The mess in this area is beneficial to someone. Who? It is easy to define both the "head" and the "tail" of the one who benefits from it, but it is almost impossible to cut it off - the "roof" is steel, and the "social activists" have limited rights (I think, not without intent).

[Fox]

Quote: Lelek

Well, I think not the DAM government.

I apologize, maybe a little off topic, but I always wondered why the majority focuses on the government "LADY"why not just the government of "RF" or the government of the president (I think it sounds fair too), there is a feeling that some tectonic shifts have taken place with the appointment of "DAM". For me, he (LADIES) did not deserve such attention to his person, certainly not more than his predecessors!

[Blackmokona]

He works as a lightning rod.

[Dejavu]

Both of them work. The words "do not give" are not appropriate. Give to everyone who is taken. The only trouble is that starting from scratch is very difficult, and getting loans at the current interest rate is not an option. Ours began to work on what was left of the collective farms, some are still plowing on old equipment. But in general, those who started in the 90s have long since gotten on their feet and are holding peasant farms throughout the country. They have new equipment and everything is fine. But the road is almost closed for new farmers. Or they start with scanty areas. The Chinese, as a rule, work for a mega farmer from China, who already has his own capital. They barbarously use our land and go to a new one. While this is a drop in the sea, they are not given a lot of land, and we have a LOT of free land, but in 20-30 years we will begin to notice such white scorched islands among our fields.

There is only one way out, we must stop taking Chinese vegetables. The manufacturer always indicates the vegetables "PRC" or the village "Puzyrkovo". Why so, but because only Chinese vegetables come to supermarket shelves, for the price. Therefore, if the village is indicated where the tomatoes come from, then we can safely consider them Chinese. You will find our tomatoes. The maximum is if there are greenhouses that have survived from owls. times. They also hit the shelves and are simply swept away. In connection with all this, he moved to live in the village. Your vegetables are on the way. By the way, for 2 years of life in the village, the wild allergy to pollen, which began at the age of 20, almost disappeared. That's it.

[Blondy]

Quote: Fox

Quote: apro

Oh, exactly under such slogans and tearful photos

yes ... only after Chinese greenhouses, the earth turns white and NOTHING grows ... and the greenhouses are covered by the chairman of the regional Duma Sazonov. who cares, near Samara, is full of Chinese greenhouses.

I specify the main Russian question - Who is to blame? Chinese?

[Semyonych]

Who's guilty? Chinese?

Probably not. Maybe this: "Federal Law of December 29, 2014 No. 473-FZ "On territories of advanced socio-economic development in the Russian Federation" ..

[blizart]

Continuing the topic, I would advise many who enthusiastically perceive the successes of South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore - to carefully study their path to the coveted overconsumption. There was no scent of market hand there. The leader “cut” tasks for big businessmen in the best traditions of Comrade Stalin (he controlled and punished in the same way, well, except with greater Eastern sophistication). Complete self-denial and asceticism for decades for the whole society. And the result seems to be ... But society has not transformed for the better. The fear of losing a job has given rise to numerous hard-to-predict negative consequences: literally working to death, worsening demographics, lack of parenting, etc. The state controls almost all spheres of citizens' lives there, and that's putting it mildly (well, Russians won't like this, that's for sure). As my uncle, who has been "plowing" in the Republic of Korea for three years on a package of cold coffee, said: "It is better not to touch their clerks, they are angry like dogs, they will bite" - and added after a pause - "For real!"

[andrereu74]

I hope that after the arrival of these "farmers" we will not have this in the Far East ???

[Fotoceva62]

Photos are impressive, but no more. Look at the landscapes of places de mine shale oil: the same eggs are only in profile. All these are the results of a continuous economic war, the results of making a profit at any cost, plus elementary personnel illiteracy. This idiotic race is what is called "Western values" and it once again put the world on the brink of war.
Regarding the collective farms: not for this the Union was destroyed. In order to restore industry and agriculture, it is necessary to change the existing social relations, and this is not an easy task, and even in conditions of limited independence. And you will agree that a lot is being done, but it’s not necessary to break it;
As the traitor and Gorbachev said, "... Yeltsin left Putin a minefield instead of the country."

[Vadim237]

Putin has already cleared most of this minefield.

[Alf]

Quote: Vadim237

Putin has already cleared most of this minefield.

He just did not touch the main bookmark, but he also guarded the political model of the state in every possible way, and without it he removed one mine, three appeared.

[Free wind]

The Chinese have dirtied everything, now they climb to us, and you are delighted "they are against America"

[k174oun7]

I saw a photo of the territories of Siberia in places of oil production. The consequences are terrifying. Not only will the source be non-renewable and the lunar landscape will remain to the descendants, and most importantly, the predators who take possession of the bowels need to pump more oil and transfer the money to western banks. In China, nature is being destroyed, but the economic power of the state is increasing.

[rosarioagro]

Quote: k174un7

In China, nature is being destroyed, but the economic power of the state is increasing.

And they will live where they will be in economic power or in nature

[Victor1]

This is what they want to arrange in the Trans-Baikal Territory and in the Far East, in no case should they be given land, but what a shame you will do with this corrupt power and officials with pests ...

[valerysvy]

What they do not talk about (naming only the growth figures of China's economy) .... Moreover, they do not talk about not only this - China has more problems than the US-Russia-European Union combined! The Chinese want to eat .... Consumption is growing. Everyone wants to live well. At the same time, there is still a reserve of 800 million peasants, who are essentially labor beggars "free reserves." But it will be over soon. There are no pensions in China, no guaranteed medical care at all.

[Vadim237]

They are the first in agriculture in the world, if only they would not use all sorts of chemicals for cultivation for agricultural products and monitor the environment - they would not have prices, but they will come to this soon.

[voyaka uh]

China is now translating all of its metallurgical
industry and chemistry abroad (mainly to Africa).
As Japan did in her time, faced with the same problem -
environmental.

[Samy]

N-yes, but the men (the Chinese) do not know. Well, let's do it in order. There are pensions in China. Those who worked for the state (and there are a lot of such people) receive pensions of up to 5 yuan per month. By the way, they also receive apartments from the state, some for their working life up to 000 times. Others - up to 3 yuan per month. There are benefits for the poor, mortgages, etc. As for ecology, there were problems. But now Beijing, for example, is converting heating to gas, and the withdrawn enterprises (from cities to suburbs) are required to apply air and water purification technologies, energy saving, etc., with each project leader submitting and reporting to the local party committee. There are a lot of electric vehicles in cities, much more than ours. Wind power is the largest - in China, solar one of the most extensive - China, recently wrote about atomic energy here. All this is tough, under control and with landings. And photographs of such can be pulled in Russia and in the States ... Let's start from the doorway again.

[valerysvy]

There are pensions in China. Those who worked for the state (and there are a lot of such people) receive pensions of up to 5 yuan per month.

You are Delusional! Open the Analogue of our "Goskomstat" in the Chinese version .... Statistics for the last year .... In China, 30 million people are covered by pensions and most of them will only receive pensions sometime ... EVERYTHING! Official infa from the Chinese themselves ... and what is 30 million people for a one and a half billion China, you judge!

[Samy]

I’ll add another 5 yuan, about agriculture and about the fields where nothing grows after them. I went, looked, on the same fields for decades plowing, sowing .... but they all growing? Then, if after them we do not grow, it is not their problem, but ours?

[PROSREOT]

Well, yes, only from these fields tomatoes are harder than apples and taste like a Saakashvili tie, and of course, everything grows perfectly. While they stuff the earth with chemicals, everything grows there, but after the earth is burned out, the fertile layer is completely destroyed

[Alf]

Well, yes, only from these fields tomatoes are harder than apples and taste like a Saakashvili tie, and of course, everything grows perfectly. While they stuff the earth with chemicals, everything grows there, but after the earth is burned out, the fertile layer is completely destroyed

A few years ago, a program was broadcast on Samara TV. They showed how the Chinese grow vegetables and fruits near Samara. In the greenhouses, the narrow-eyed themselves work only in respirators, and when asked whether you eat what you raised, surprised eyes do and openly say, of course not.

[Odysseus]

Ohhh, Americans are stepping up anti-Chinese propaganda. How cute.
I wonder why World Press Photo 2015 is not interested in the price of Mexican, Brazilian (where TNCs happily cut down the "lungs of the world" - the Amazon forest), Indonesian, Indian, etc. goods? Something is inaudible to the endless screams about the destroyed nature of India, Mexico, etc.
I suppose we should offer all "public activists" and "fighters for the environment" to return all production to the West, and put them on the bench. Everyone will be happy.

[igoryok1984]

Industrial hell.

[16112014nk]

While serving in the army, he was in practice at a chemical plant in Gorky (now Nizhny Novgorod). As far as I remember, it was called "Red Etna". I remember walking through the territory of the plant (it was in early spring and there was a lot of snow), and near each workshop there was snow of a different color. Where is green, where is pink, where is black.

[saenara]

"Krasnaya Etna" specializes in the production of fasteners and has never been a chemical plant.

[andrewkor]

In the subject of publication in the AIF. 28. 2015 "Harvest from chemists." The Chinese renting land in Russia with chemicals kill them for 70-100 years.

[Rash]

Quote: andrewkor

In the subject of publication in the AIF. 28. 2015 "Harvest from chemists." The Chinese renting land in Russia with chemicals kill them for 70-100 years.

Well, this is the fault of our regulatory authorities. Most likely, there were some bribes there.

[although]

According to studies of the International Health Organization (MOH) in the world from year to year the number of children with disabilities due to birth defects or pathology during childbirth is stable and makes up 5 percent of all newborns.
In China, the high birth rate is from here and the figure at the beginning of the article, it would be better to give a percentage ratio, not the fact that we have a better situation.

[Alfons xv]

People's Republic of China of Degenerated Biomass (DPRK). The Chinese are no longer a nation, but a yellow biomass turning into a human tumor. It is urgent to consider and immediately implement the process of reducing the number and spread of this harmful biomass beyond its borders. It is not too late. There is still a chance of success. An interesting fact. Nearly 100 million Chinese men have no chance to find a woman for themselves. Owing to the fact, among this biomass, homosexuality is booming on a gigantic scale. It threatens from the DPRK for Russia and other neighboring DPRK countries.

[Natalia]

Of course, the problem is only in consumers who are eager to buy everything for 3 copecks. Who needs the cars of these foul-smelling toys? But someone buys them. And jeans for 300 rubles?, And a T-shirt for 100? Everyone runs for sales. Not to mention Already about the Chinese laminate, which in combination with plastic windows and modern wallpaper makes a gas chamber out of the apartment. Who is thinking about this?

[Alf]

Quote: Natalia

.Who needs cars of these foul-smelling toys? But who buys them

They are bought by those whom the modern government left penniless and who are glad that they can buy at least such toys to their children.

Quote: Natalia

And jeans for 300 rubles?

I myself buy some clothes in Auchan, the same jeans now cost 399 rubles. One pair is enough for me for a year. Allegedly natural American jeans (made in China) from the brand department cost 3000. But the most interesting is that this pair is not enough for 10 years, for a maximum of 3 years. And what is more profitable to take?