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Linguistic trap svidomizma

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What is different "Litak" from the usual aircraft.

Linguistic trap svidomizmaIn George Orwell's novel "1984" there is a special application about "Newspeak" - a special quasi-language created by the totalitarian regime just to serve its ideology. Moreover, it was created precisely because the totalitarian ideology itself is absurd, deceitful and full of contradictions. So "newspeak" acts as a barrier to common sense; there is nothing “wrong” on it, and it is simply impossible to think - simply because there are no such words.

However, Orwell’s fantasies are just fantasies, in reality it will not be possible to build a “Newspeak”. And the grounds for such optimism are given by events ... in Ukraine. That is, exactly where the “Ukrainian language” that never existed in reality performs the functions of a “newspeak”, invented and implemented specifically to serve the ideology of “Ukrainians”.

And since this ideology boils down to a simple thesis about the fact that “Ukraine is not Russia”, then the “Ukrainian language” should be primarily non-Russian. One in which there is no “victory”, but “peremoga”; not “treason”, but “zrada”; not a “plane”, but a “litak”; not a “helicopter”, but a “ginto wing”; not a “microbe”, but a “dribnozhivets” ...

However, attempts to replace the "moskalsky" terms with their own, with the "right" meaning, led to the situation of the opposite. The living Great Russian language simply began to absorb language ukro-innovations as synonyms, but ... synonyms with a specific meaning.

This process was not difficult to foresee: even in the 1960-ies among the Crimean schoolchildren there were jokes, mockery of "movoy":
- What will be the “house” in Ukrainian?
- Hut.
- And the "pants"?
- Pants.

Simple humor consisted in the fact that hut and pants - they are in Russian language on a par with homes and trousers. Only the semantic tint is special: if the “hut”, then certainly in the village and under the thatched roof, and if the pants, then poorly stitched, baggy and without arrows ...

Until recently, the Ukrainian "zrady" and "peremogi" did not have such ironic shades and were perceived by the Russian ear simply as foreign words - strange in sound, but that’s all. However, the linguistic hysteria associated with the “revolution of hydrability” very quickly turned the words of the novellap into completely used words in Russian. But only with special semantic shades.

In particular, the "Peremoga" from just the equivalent of "victory" has turned into something similar to the victory of Pyrrhus. And “Zrada” is no longer a banal “treason”, but the result of their own feeble-mindedness, which urgently needs to be blamed on someone (preferably on Muscovites).

Correspondingly, such notions of the Ukrainian “Newspeak” as “Svidomost,” which has turned from a complete synonym for “consciousness” to the definition of extreme idiocy, have played with new colors. The word “schyry” from “sincere” became the designation of a cunning fool, and “gidnosti” from the analogue of “dignity” turned into a readiness to sell out to anyone “for cookies” in a hurry. In the Russian version it acquired another letter “n” and became “rottenness”.

And after all there is nothing to complain about to Svidomits. New shades in terminology did not appear as a result of “zombies by Russian television”, but as a result of an adequate perception of independent social and political practice.

And there's nothing you can do: this practice is such that it manages to gloss over even neutral terms, like "litaca" (of an airplane).

Like the plane - he is the plane. But it turns out that shameful allusions can be here, especially if the plane belongs to the Emergency Situations Ministry and flies to Nepal to demonstrate the readiness of the “Nenka” Ukraine to rescue its “greats” (citizens) from the earthquake zone. "Gromadyan", it should be noted, "Svidomo", that is, refused to leave Nepal on the plane "Muscovites".

The epic with the "salvation" turned, as you know, a complete disgrace. Ukro- “litak” on the way broke down, got stuck in Delhi, waited there for several days for a spare part that they didn’t bring ... This is despite the fact that “hornards” could easily fly out of Nepal by regular flights on regular planes, and not on “litaca” .
And there is nothing to be done: the associations with the “Litak” were fully established, and the Russian language was enriched with one more word of “Ukrainian” origin. Here is such a visual-applied linguistics: "Newspeak" in a collision with a normal, living language ...
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  1. domokl
    domokl 21 May 2015 05: 43
    +43
    Ah well done author. How vividly noticed. I enjoyed reading good
    1. Finches
      Finches 21 May 2015 05: 48
      +76
      “He’s a bastard,” Turbin continued with hatred, “after all, he doesn’t speak this language himself! Eh? The day before yesterday I ask this by the channel, Doctor Kuritsky, he, if you please see, has forgotten how to speak Russian since November last year. Kuritsky, but Kuritsky became ... So I ask: how is “cat” in Ukrainian? He answers “whale.” I ask: “And how is the whale?" But he stopped, goggled his eyes and was silent, and now he does not bow.
      Nikolka burst out laughing and said:
      - They cannot have the word "whale", because there are no whales in Ukraine, and there are a lot of everything in Russia. There are whales in the White Sea ... "
      "White Guard", M. Bulgakov

      Svidomye at any time, such Svidomo ....! laughing
      1. Born in the USSR
        Born in the USSR 21 May 2015 06: 14
        +57
        If there is no language, the territory is also visible, then why are they putting me down when I say that Ukrainians do not exist? What is a fictional nation? After all, the presence of language and territory are the main signs of a nation.
        And the one who calls himself a Ukrainian, and even conscious, is hostile to the Russian because he denies both the very connection with Russia, the commonality of history, and the Russians as a great independent civilization. How is that?
        Why do we praise such authors, but we immediately defend Ukraine in the comments.
        Where is the corsair? au Corsair! Then they beat yours!
        No, not to see the Corsair ...
        1. sgazeev
          sgazeev 21 May 2015 08: 01
          +3
          Abundance, outback, end, edge, extreme part, extremity, periphery, Ukraine.
          1. vasyukov
            vasyukov 21 May 2015 13: 18
            0
            The foreskin or foreskin? Or the end of the taiga emperor?
        2. Volzhanin
          Volzhanin 21 May 2015 08: 21
          +1
          Thanks for the photo - have fun!
          +100
        3. kit-kat
          kit-kat 21 May 2015 09: 11
          +5
          why do they put cons when I say that Ukrainians do not exist

          Because many seriously think (atavism from the USSR) that there is such a nationality - "Ukrainian", and not a territorial affiliation.
        4. BMP-2
          BMP-2 21 May 2015 10: 11
          +2
          Quote: born_in_cssr
          If there is no language, the territory is also visible, then why are they putting me down when I say that Ukrainians do not exist? What is a fictional nation? Indeed, the presence of a language and territory are the main signs of a nation, and one who calls himself a Ukrainian, and even conscious, is hostile to the Russian, for he denies both the very connection with Russia, the common history, and the Russians as a great independent civilization. Why is that so? Why do we praise such authors, but we immediately defend Ukraine in the comments.

          So, after all, it is the most difficult for a person to part with his delusions! And here you have to admit that for a long time I was mistaken, considering myself the center of world civilization. laughing Not only everyone is capable of it. Not only everyone can do it. laughing Because this is a feat: a small and quiet victory over oneself, and not some greasy and screaming overpower!
        5. Sevastopol
          Sevastopol 21 May 2015 11: 41
          +3
          all right. that there were no Ukrainians, I wrote here a year and a half ago, and this caused either a restrained or frankly negative reaction among many. Now the situation has changed.
          1. Throw
            Throw 21 May 2015 12: 06
            +4
            When I hear this piglet "mova", I have an association like oligophrenics and downs say. And they drool laughing
        6. Maverick78
          Maverick78 21 May 2015 12: 31
          +4
          Talk nonsense dear :-)
          I am Ukrainian. I have never been hostile to the Russian, and I won’t even if it turns out that Putin actually invented and organized all this. Because I am Russian) ... I didn’t make a reservation ... Everyone speaks of Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians as 3 brotherly peoples. I believe that this is not entirely true, it would be right in such a context - Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians. And together we are Russians (Rus, Rus, dew, ruthen, etc. as you like best). And these are not 3 fraternal peoples, but 3 branches of ONE people.
          Regarding the Ukrainian language ... Many times I already wrote, I repeat ... This language is))) Come to Ukraine and go to the outback, and not only to the outback ... to the same Poltava. It is spoken and spoken ALWAYS. All 3 languages ​​came from Old Russian, which was shared by our common ancestors with some local peculiarities (and this does not give the right to say that the language spoken in Moscow is the only true one, and the rest are invented) Yes, now there is such a problem that Ukrainian wants make it as less as possible similar to Russian, but this approach does not meet the support of the population, including in the memory. True, in connection with the events of the last 2 years, the resistance has significantly decreased.
          In general, when you say that Ukrainians and the Ukrainian language do not exist, you will receive resistance from the Ukrainians. And you will pour water to the mill of those who unleashed and support all this obscurantism that is happening now.
          1. Throw
            Throw 21 May 2015 14: 33
            +2
            The point is that the Ukrainians themselves are artificial. And about the "language" he wrote above, also an intentionally deformed local dialect, by those who from past centuries and unleash this obscurantism among the Russians.
            1. Maverick78
              Maverick78 21 May 2015 18: 02
              +3
              If Ukrainians are anti-Russian, then I agree. But believe me, before the latest events, this "anti-Russian" was followed by at most 10-15 percent of the population. Now there are much more of them, but this is because of TOTAL hate propaganda. But being Ukrainian does not mean being anti-Russian.
              And the "deformed local dialect" is the Ukrainian language, that is, the language spoken by the population (people). For example, residents of villages, small towns are not very susceptible to OFFICIAL changes, the same second letter G is practically not used in practice.
              In short, this can be discussed for a very long time. The meaning of what I want to convey is this. Do not stoop to the level of our Svidomo, this level is much lower than the baseboard, do you need it?
              1. Throw
                Throw 22 May 2015 02: 42
                0
                Yes, not like anti-Russian, now the whole west is ...

                Like ethnos.
          2. avdkrd
            avdkrd 21 May 2015 14: 49
            0
            Quote: Maverick78
            I am Ukrainian. I have never been hostile to the Russian, and I won’t even if it turns out that Putin actually invented and organized all this. Because I'm Russian) ... I did not make a reservation ...

            Sorry, but maybe give a link, or at least justify your vision of the origin of nationality - Ukrainian? In general, when and from whom did the first mention of Ukrainians appear as a nation? What was it based on? Maybe Ukrainians founded Kiev? At least one mention in chronicles or historical documents about people living in Ukraine (the outskirts) as an independent nation? Even as a country, Ukraine existed less than a month before 1991, and even then no one seriously took Ukrainians as a nation, although there were deer trying to justify this incident. The basis of Ukrainization are the attempts of the Little Russian intelligentsia with Polish roots.
            1. Foul skeptic
              Foul skeptic 21 May 2015 16: 15
              0
              Of course, I’m afraid to name the final figure without in-depth analysis, but if I seriously begin to take such statements and begin to reason with such Makar, then I am frightened by the fate of the peoples of at least THREE continents!
        7. Jack-b
          Jack-b 21 May 2015 12: 58
          +1
          By God, these pluses with minuses were given to you.
      2. Proud.
        Proud. 21 May 2015 07: 36
        +8
        Quote: Finches
        I ask: “What about a whale?” But he stopped, his eyes wide and silent. And now does not bow.

        Subsequently, they coped with this "difficult task." And "KIT" (marine mammals) became "KYt".
        But with "CAT" it is more difficult. And if you write without using the letter "i", then it turns out indecency, if it is also wrong to put the stress ... In general, the word is interesting - "kitty".
        1. CONTROL
          CONTROL 21 May 2015 09: 46
          +1
          ... creative! ...
          Even worse with grammar: oh, this is a mixture of Cyrillic and Latin! ...
          1. BMP-2
            BMP-2 21 May 2015 10: 21
            +3
            Quote: CONTROL
            Even worse with grammar: oh, this is a mixture of Cyrillic and Latin! ...

            This is spelling. Grammar - the science of the laws of construction meaningful speech segments. With this is generally a problem! laughing
            1. Throw
              Throw 21 May 2015 12: 10
              +2
              Of course, the problem is an artificially created dialect. Maloros dialect mixed and pushed there different Polish g ...
      3. fyvaprold
        fyvaprold 21 May 2015 10: 42
        +3
        Quote: Finches
        So I ask: how is the "cat" in Ukrainian?

        It was necessary to ask how "cat", "kishka" is on the move, which is more epic than "kita". laughing With respect.
        1. Foul skeptic
          Foul skeptic 21 May 2015 10: 48
          +3
          Forgive me, what do you mean by "kita"? Your variation of the Ukrainian "cat" in the genitive case?
          1. fyvaprold
            fyvaprold 21 May 2015 11: 02
            0
            Quote: Nefarious skeptic
            Forgive me, what do you mean by "kita"? Your variation of the Ukrainian "cat" in the genitive case?

            Yes, I can be mistaken with the spelling, I do not own mov. With respect.
            1. Foul skeptic
              Foul skeptic 21 May 2015 11: 09
              +3
              Nominative (nasivniy) - kit
              Genitive (clan) - cat
              Dative (long-distance) - to a cat

              etc. (in this particular case, a change in spelling is present in one case)

              Just using your comment as an example, I very sincerely ask users of the site to refrain from "comparing" languages. This is a disastrous path. Peace to all.
              1. fyvaprold
                fyvaprold 21 May 2015 11: 24
                0
                Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                Just using your comment as an example, I very sincerely ask users of the site to refrain from "comparing" languages. This is a disastrous path. Peace to all.

                I did not quite understand you, by "kita", I did not mean "cat" in Ukrainian, but a reference to the word "kit", i.e. similar to the phrase: "Exupery flew on Lightningе (lightning), where the letter "e" is the Russian ending to the English word. Perhaps the spelling is not very competent, but it is often used. With respect.
      4. HorseSnezhnyansky
        HorseSnezhnyansky 21 May 2015 12: 22
        +1
        That's it ... Ragul, he is also a ragul in Africa lol
    2. Eragon
      Eragon 21 May 2015 07: 13
      -22
      Quote: domokl
      Ah well done author. How vividly noticed. I enjoyed reading good

      I also noticed. Complete ignorance of the Ukrainian language by the author. For example, he is unaware that "house" in Ukrainian is not a "hut", but a "budynok" (sounds like "budynok"), and "trousers" they are "trousers", as a special type of cut of trousers (a foreign word , that for Ukrainian, that for Russian).
      Let's laugh at the Russian word for "airplane", because the whole world knows that it is "airplane".
      It is not necessary, using the tragedy, it is unwise to mock a foreign language. By the way, re-read the original text "The Lay of Igor's Campaign." There are half of modern Ukrainian words. These are those who shout that the Ukrainian language was invented just the other day.
      1. Born in the USSR
        Born in the USSR 21 May 2015 07: 32
        +25
        Quote: Eragon
        By the way, re-read the original text "The Lay of Igor's Campaign." There are half of modern Ukrainian words. These are those who shout that the Ukrainian language was invented just the other day.

        A living language cannot pass a millennium and remain unchanged in the sound of words. This is for those who say that the Ukrainian language was invented back then ...
        As it is, evidence of the fact that the Ukrainian language was invented as a Frankinshtein, dazzling from everything that came to hand. hi
        And yes, in "The Lay of Igor's Campaign" Russian language!, albeit with the prefix "ancient".

        Be warned that conversations about different development of languages ​​from the same root can unexpectedly lead you to new peoples like "Moskovites" (from the city of Moscow) and Peterburzhites (from the city of St. Petersburg) for a couple of different words. laughing
        And about the southern, northern, central and eastern dialects, I generally better keep quiet now ... But this is ALL Russian Language, Great and mighty.
        1. Eragon
          Eragon 21 May 2015 07: 47
          -8
          Quote: born_in_cssr
          This is for those who say that the Ukrainian language was invented back then ...

          Language IMPOSSIBLE to come up with, this is nonsense, ask any linguist.
          Quote: born_in_cssr
          And yes, in "The Word about Igor's Regiment" Russian language !, albeit with the prefix "ancient".

          Who argues? But look how many words there are in the modern Ukrainian language. Simply, this is a vivid example of the fact that all three languages ​​- Russian, Ukrainian, Belarusian - are descended from one, Old Russian. Over the centuries, they began to differ significantly from each other, but this is how it should be with living languages. This Latin has been unchanged for millennia.
          1. Born in the USSR
            Born in the USSR 21 May 2015 07: 52
            +9
            Quote: Eragon
            Russian, Ukrainian, Belarusian

            Belarusian and Russian are two independent languages ​​that have been established over the centuries, while the "Ukrainian" language is spoken mainly in that part of the piece of land where Russians and "Ukrainians" have never lived, and where historically there was a Russian, ancient Russian land , "Ukrainian" language for some reason is not really used, and moreover, different parts of small Ukraine have difficulty understanding each other, how is it? And this is in an established language with more than a thousand years of history? Where and when did the language develop and who is its speaker? Why did the language remain unused for more than several centuries and did not leave behind any traces of life (in the language these are different texts)?
            Words that a tragedy occurred with the Ukrainian language - such as it was forgotten due to the imposition of Russian, and on this part of one people began to speak very differently. BUT! Why has this not happened with any of the languages ​​of the former USSR ?! With the same Belarusian example?
            1. Maverick78
              Maverick78 21 May 2015 17: 36
              +2
              I disagree. Historically, the Russian land is, for example, Kiev, Chernigov, Volyn, Galich, etc. In which of the above places DOES NOT SPEAK Ukrainian ??? Different parts of Ukraine DO NOT HAVE any problems with understanding, it is difficult to understand only the Transcarpathian dialect (but there the local language is generally difficult to attribute anywhere) I did not conduct any research, but something tells me that by the time of the Pereyaslavl Rada "Russian and Ukrainian" were either one language , or had minimal differences. In the future, the language that we now call Russian changed and developed much more than the one that we call Ukrainian. And the difference between the Ukrainian center and the east of Ukraine and the Ukrainian west is precisely due to the fact that these lands have been in DIFFERENT states for a very long time and have been subjected to different cultural influences. There was no tragedy ... no one forgot this language, how they used it and will continue to use it. And our svidomye yell about tragedies ... some for money, and some simply because they don't like Moscow)))
          2. uragan114
            uragan114 21 May 2015 08: 54
            +11
            "The language is IMPOSSIBLE to invent, this is nonsense, ask any linguist."
            What do you mean?
            And the notorious "Espenranto"
            1. Eragon
              Eragon 21 May 2015 09: 58
              +2
              Quote: uragan114
              And the notorious "Espenranto"

              And what kind of people speak it?
              Hmm, Ukrainophobia begins to roll off the site. There are a lot of minuses, there are few real comments with arguments. It is sad.
              1. fyvaprold
                fyvaprold 21 May 2015 11: 00
                +5
                Quote: Eragon
                And what kind of people speak it?

                The question is not who speaks it, but the possibility of "inventing" it, or more precisely compiling it from existing ones. There are many examples, besides Esperanto, and the optional in these languages ​​should speak, your computer, for example, "speaks" a bunch of artificial, invented languages, from fasta, to C ++ and other Perl's and Java. The comparison is quite correct. With respect.
                PS:Ukrainophobia is developed by sites like "Censor" and "Observer", publishing various bestial "vys.ry" (sorry for my French), and on VO and many other resources you can observe the consequences and natural reaction to Russophobic nonsense, times when "us obsi.rayut, and we stream "long gone.
                PPS:My koment does not hate Ukrainians, but only emphasizes the existing realities.
                1. Maverick78
                  Maverick78 21 May 2015 18: 17
                  +2
                  About the censor and other G completely agree. But answering the same you, I repeat, descend to THEIR level .... I tell those individuals that they write there not only that they would not give up their hands, but I would also fuck these hands off. Do you want people like me and you to have the same attitude?
            2. a housewife
              a housewife 21 May 2015 12: 11
              0
              And what kind of people speak it? negative
            3. EGOrkka
              EGOrkka 21 May 2015 12: 33
              0
              And "Fenyu"? on a hairdryer (mov) to bot.
          3. frost1979
            frost1979 21 May 2015 08: 59
            +4
            Quote: Eragon
            Language IMPOSSIBLE to come up with, this is nonsense, ask any linguist

            Esperanto - nonsense ??
          4. AID.S
            AID.S 21 May 2015 09: 06
            +2
            About come up. Have you heard about Esperanto? Or a weaker example, the languages ​​invented by Tolkien.
            1. CONTROL
              CONTROL 21 May 2015 09: 54
              0
              elven language - quenya ...
            2. Eragon
              Eragon 21 May 2015 11: 43
              0
              Quote: AID.S
              About come up. Have you heard about Esperanto? Or a weaker example, the languages ​​invented by Tolkien.

              And in Star Wars, everyone speaks English. Wow - down with all languages ​​except the above !!! After all, the whole galaxy speaks it! By the way, have you read the book itself in addition to promoting the films? There are sayings of the elves in what language? And once again "by the way" - I read it in English too - there is no elf language there - everything is in English.
          5. kit-kat
            kit-kat 21 May 2015 09: 14
            +11
            What is called the Belarusian language and the Ukrainian language are just adverbs. In tsarist Russia, it was simply the language of the commoners. And when it became necessary to divide the Russians, they seized on these adverbs to create "languages" on their basis, strengthening and supplementing these adverbs with borrowings and invented words.
            1. Belgorod
              Belgorod 21 May 2015 14: 53
              +2
              Let me add
              The author of the modern Russian language is Mikhailo Lomonosov
              (The petition to the Tsar of All Russia from the relatives of Ivan Susaniaa demanded a translation from Russian into Russian)
              That is, in the 18th century there was a reform and the language was converted to general rules
          6. BMP-2
            BMP-2 21 May 2015 10: 31
            +3
            Quote: Eragon
            Language IMPOSSIBLE to come up with, this is nonsense, ask any linguist.

            Better ask if it is possible to come up with a language from programmers and system engineers - you will be extremely surprised by the answer! laughing
            And, by the way, no one claims that the linguists came up with the Ukrainian language. Modern Ukrainian language actually exists from the end of the XVIII century. The founder of the literary language is considered I.P. Kotlyarevsky, the creation of T.G.Shevchenko played a significant role in the formation of the norms of the literary language. Neither one nor the other were linguists !!! hi
            1. Dali
              Dali 21 May 2015 12: 47
              +2
              Quote: BMP-2
              . Modern Ukrainian language actually exists from the end of the XVIII century.


              If we turn to history, then the Ukrainian language was invented from the filing of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, on their denyushki, they hired a couple of renegades from the intelligentsia ... and before that there was none ...

              And not just started to introduce it, but with a sword and fire !!! And so there was a dialect ... like other dialects of the Russian language.

              shl
              And do not drag Taras Shevchenko to this ...
          7. Horn
            Horn 21 May 2015 12: 08
            0
            Language IMPOSSIBLE to come up with, this is nonsense, ask any linguist.

            - You say this to Hebrew speakers.
          8. vik14025
            vik14025 21 May 2015 22: 16
            0
            I would like to clarify something: References to "The Lay of Igor's Campaign" are incorrect because the "Word" itself is most likely a stylization under the old source (Note, I am not saying "bullshit", but it raises too many questions).
        2. Senior manager
          Senior manager 21 May 2015 08: 04
          +9
          As the veil fell from my eyes, there was no Ukrainian language, there is a South Russian dialect, as well as Vologda, Volga, etc. Well, he gained such a difference from the languages ​​of Central Russia due to the great number of dialects and languages ​​cooked in Southern Russia
          1. sunzhenets
            sunzhenets 21 May 2015 09: 47
            +6
            Agree to 100%!
            In 1986 he was in Artek. Children, you understand, far from the lap-dogs gathered there. I remember how Ukrainians from different areas argued for a long time: how to speak correctly - Ukrainian or Ukrainian. So they did not come to a common opinion.
            So the Ukrainian language is a South Russian dialect littered with borrowings from Polish and other languages
            1. a housewife
              a housewife 21 May 2015 12: 14
              0
              And how to say it correctly: thyroG or curd?
        3. CONTROL
          CONTROL 21 May 2015 09: 52
          +1
          English - several dialects; and there’s a lot more German ones (Switzerland, Austria - buy newspapers and compare; Alsace, Tyrol, also South Tyrol ... Swabia, Lorraine (German-French-Dutch?) - yes, completely! - but they understand each other! what - they want to understand!)
          1. Dali
            Dali 21 May 2015 12: 50
            0
            Right !!!

            And no one comes up with new languages ​​...
      2. BecmepH
        BecmepH 21 May 2015 07: 42
        +8
        re-read the original text "The Word about Igor's Campaign." There are half of modern Ukrainian words
        This does not mean that it Ukrainian the words. These are the words used in Ukraine that have taken root with them.
        1. EGOrkka
          EGOrkka 21 May 2015 09: 31
          +5
          When was "The Lay of Igor's Regiment" written about the Ukrainians, no one ever heard of? There were no such "Ukrainians" - they were invented much later, a combined Cygan-Judeo-Bandera ethnos.
          1. a housewife
            a housewife 21 May 2015 12: 33
            +2
            Bender is a city. And where Ukrainians, Gypsies, Jews, Tatars, Armenians, etc. do not live in Russia. And what? Russian is full of words from other languages, probably not from Indians. Do you think you speak "pure Russian"? No matter how it is! Like -speak Little Russian, here at least a root from Rossii.Ukraina -polish word.Nerusskie words -dog, shoe, blizzard, blizzard, bed, school, cutlet, TV, ship, potatoes and a great many others.Nu Ukraine the same thing, only there is less influence of Asian and Caucasian languages, and more European, well, even Tatar and Turkish. And in general, reasoning, which nation or people is worse or better than others is a direct road to fascism. I am now also very angry with Ukraine, Europe, America. But not for their nationalities, but for their politics. Everywhere there are normal people, but there are stupid, greedy psychos. About the Jewish elite in Ukraine, one Jew from Israel (the other day on Russia 24) said that this was the eruption of feces from people, it happens in any nation. And also, I think, those who care about the Russian language themselves should try to write and speak competently, regardless of the Internet fashion. hi
      3. NEXUS
        NEXUS 21 May 2015 07: 45
        +8
        Quote: Eragon
        This is for those who scream that the Ukrainian language was invented just the other day.

        The Ukrainian language, as well as Russian and Belarusian, are all the languages ​​of the Slavic group. Therefore, we understand each other without an interpreter. And they laugh at the language stupidly. I have not heard that, say, Romanians laughed at the Italian language, even though it is a Romanian group of languages. Or returning to our group, the Bulgarians do not make fun of our language or Belarusian. It is stupid.
        1. Dali
          Dali 21 May 2015 12: 52
          +1
          Quote: NEXUS
          ... this is stupid.

          Stupid, this is when the normal dialect of the Russian language is stupid ... people laugh at that.
      4. Volzhanin
        Volzhanin 21 May 2015 08: 27
        +5
        Not who is mocking. They themselves invented this "demonic move" and are zealously pushing each other into consciousness.
        About "The Lay of Igor's Regiment" - bypass, because then there was one common Old Slavonic language. And what does Ukraine have to do with it?
        Once again confirms that we are the same. only ukraine For 500 years, all sorts of Catholics, Protestants washed their brains ... The territory was bordered by Westerners and their influence was inevitable.
        Why do most of them on the outskirts speak Russian? The outskirts are simply amusing, and Ukrainians themselves understand this.
        1. Anper
          Anper 21 May 2015 10: 54
          +3
          Quote: Volzhanin
          "Devil Movu" was invented and they are diligently pushing each other into consciousness.

          From western Ukraine. Just for more than 20 years it was the Galician dialect that was artificially implanted - they did it very competently and skillfully, I want to note. It was simply made fashionable, attractive to young people. Monkey Vakarchuk with her "Okean Elzy" worked very intensively in this direction, "Scriabin" with Kuzma, the kingdom of heaven to him. "Dzidzio" is Kuzma's project, but it is very popular - there is neighing over what, and the language is already involuntarily perceived positively. I highly recommend looking at the comments on YouTube. And then, here before Europe, the crustaceans are up to the sky - this is completely different - Kuzma knew how to make banter.

        2. a housewife
          a housewife 21 May 2015 12: 56
          0
          I wonder how the direction of religion affects the language? By the way, it is on the outskirts of Ukraine that Ruthenians live, their language, according to linguists, is the closest to the Old Russian. In practice, this is the language that is prayed in the Orthodox Church. They say it themselves. good
      5. Lenivets
        Lenivets 21 May 2015 08: 50
        +5
        "" A word about Igor's regiment. "There are half of modern Ukrainian words." There is no need to exaggerate. There is not even a quarter of "modern Ukrainian words" there.
        Most of these modern and Ukrainian ones are newspeak invented in the 20th century (partly borrowed from Psheks and Hungarians, partly just warped Russian).
        1. bocsman
          bocsman 21 May 2015 10: 09
          +3
          I support. The problems began when the Rada began to speak "Ukrainian", those who never spoke it. The problem was solved quickly. Ukrainian endings were added to Russian words. That was a laugh. More humor was added by emissaries from Canada. Who supposedly brought the language saved in emigration. Here are these pearls like Dribnozhivtsiv. pihvolikar (gynecologist) from there. You can list it for a long time. As a result, the child was thrown out along with the dirty water. A real literary Ukrainian language. Handsome, imaginative! They are now hiding behind T.G. Shevchenko, M. Vovchek, L. Ukrainka, etc. etc. But they themselves read them !? I'm sure not! And why would I add beads to the pig ?! Now in Ukraine there is neither Russian (banned) nor Ukrainian (not learned) languages! And what Ukrainian officials speak is just gangster slang - fenya ukromafii.
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      6. crumb
        crumb 21 May 2015 08: 55
        +4
        Shevchenko’s Sad is the highest beating of the Hut (not a mundane)
        everyday house - apartment building
      7. iwakura
        iwakura 21 May 2015 08: 58
        0
        The anecdote cited by the author, not his works, but really was circulating 30 years ago.
        Hut or budynok, I suspect that the second, if not the same Newspeak, then had a regional circulation, and not "all-Ukrainian" like many of the modern ukroslov., I heard this word for the first time
        about the airplane also, something associated with it is plywood, rag-frame, that way, the beginning of the 20th century. Therefore, this example is just in the subject of the article, the word is borrowed, and, it seems, a synonym, but its meaning is shifted to the side.
        And the Word is written oddly enough in Russian, and then let us assume that Ukrainian is a return to archaic Russian with a loan of Polish
      8. Max otto
        Max otto 21 May 2015 09: 05
        +4
        Quote: Eragon
        I also noticed. Complete ignorance of the Ukrainian language by the author. For example, he is unaware that "house" in Ukrainian is not a "hut", but a "budynok" (sounds like "budynok"), and "trousers" they are "trousers", as a special type of cut of trousers (a foreign word , that for Ukrainian, that for Russian).
        Let's laugh at the Russian word for "airplane", because the whole world knows that it is "airplane".
        It is not necessary, using the tragedy, it is unwise to mock a foreign language. By the way, re-read the original text "The Lay of Igor's Campaign." There are half of modern Ukrainian words. These are those who shout that the Ukrainian language was invented just the other day.

        You gave a lousy example, "budynok" is not a house, but a "building" or "building" in both Belarusian and Ukrainian.
        And yes, the author is right. Hut, she is the hut.
        1. Foul skeptic
          Foul skeptic 21 May 2015 11: 22
          +1
          You have not completely twisted it, since "booth" is a "house" too. Such are they, words-synonyms ...
          1. Max otto
            Max otto 21 May 2015 23: 19
            0
            Quote: A vile skeptic
            You have not completely twisted it, since "booth" is a "house" too. Such are they, words-synonyms ...

            Yes, I turned it okay, not a single living Belarusian says "come to my house", and indeed from the Ukrainians, none of them in their right mind will say so, everyone will say "let's go to the house."
      9. Anper
        Anper 21 May 2015 10: 27
        +1
        Quote: Eragon
        half of modern Ukrainian words

        ????? belay
        Actually, The Lay of Igor's Host was written in the Old Russian language, when neither Ukrainian nor Russian languages ​​existed yet. This is the common language of the Eastern Slavs, which only in the 14th and 15th centuries split into three separate East Slavic languages ​​- Russian, Belarusian and Ukrainian. Each of these languages ​​in one way or another inherited Old Russian, most of the signs remained in the Ukrainian language, therefore among them it is considered the most archaic. modern, and, just, the oldest Ukrainian words.
        The author of the article just makes fun of modern, artificially invented and by force words planted in the beautiful Ukrainian language. Not so much even words as new meanings acquired over the past year by these words.
      10. ymNIK1970
        ymNIK1970 21 May 2015 10: 30
        +3
        "Re-read the original text" The Lay of Igor's Campaign. "There are half of modern Ukrainian words. These are those who shout that the Ukrainian language was invented literally in ...". Ooooh! First, ask about the versions of who wrote the book. Second, read the books and texts 100-200 years ago. Thirdly, Ukrainians are a hard psychotropic Polish drug, the use of which leads to the diagnosis of “oppositional defiant
        disorder". Caution! Irreversible consequences.
        P.S. The obsessed are treated in the Donbass with the help of traditional medicine using magic Pb. wassat
      11. motorized rifle
        motorized rifle 21 May 2015 10: 37
        +1
        Budinok, from the word buduvaty, i.e. to build, respectively, the word "building" will sound like budyvlya, and "budynok" accordingly means a building. A residential building and even a living room in common parlance was and is a HUTA. The expression "popidkidaty at khatAh" means to clean up the rooms. This is not about whether there was a language before or not, it is about opposing it to the Russian language. Imagine such a dialogue in the tax inspection: -Tell me, please, until what date you can submit "Zvit about the tribute to dodana vartist" Answer: -By the end of the month. -Thank you bye! And so all the time, the name of the officialdom is in Ukrainian, and everything else is in Russian, who wants to deceive whom? Unless, I can't wait to introduce criminal liability for the use of the Russian language, maybe then the manure (so I call the Russian-speaking Bandera), the brain will start to work, that they are destined for the role of fertilizer for a nationalist state, like they have: no p but no zh and d a, no lyakha "
      12. jktu66
        jktu66 21 May 2015 12: 41
        +1
        Using tragedy, one does not need to stupidly mock a foreign language. ... This is for those who shout that the Ukrainian language was invented just the other day.
        You are talking about a tragedy, because we are talking about pants and a hut according to a 1960s joke in Crimea. In those years there was no tragedy, I studied in the 70s in a Russian school in Sevastopol, but there were also Ukrainian schools in the city. And about airplay you are again wrong - the word MAP in the Ukrainian language was replaced by MAPA recently, like many other words. And yet, not all the world knows about airplay. Communicate in English in Spain or France, and you will be surprised that the locals in many cases will not understand you, for them the English language will not be English at all, but, for example, espanola
      13. Belgorod
        Belgorod 21 May 2015 14: 45
        0
        Ukrainian language is surzhik with Polish words. I revised "Four tankmen and a dog" - about 30% of the words "Ukrainian" ie I understood a lot without translation
        In 2013, several discussions about the Ukrainian language took place in inter. Briefly
        1 surzhik is the remainder of the language spoken in Ancient Russia.
        2 Ukrainian language - NAFIK no one needs. With enormous support under the Soviets (two TV channels, a bunch of Promin radio stations, etc., books by famous authors in Ukrainian), the number of people speaking it constantly dropped. The language exists thanks to FORCED training (in the DPR and LPR, the last Ukrainian school will be closed in 10-20 years)
        3 Both surzhik and Ukrainian language is a rural language
        Let's laugh at the Russian word for "airplane", because the whole world knows that it is "airplane".

        Then we will RYZHT from the word gvintokryl (translation of the word helicopter, i.e. helicopter)
        Read the translations of honey terms.
        Obstetrician-gynecologist - a gentleman;
        Outpatient clinic
        Library - Knigozbirn
        Vaccine - Shchepa, Shchepin
        Hallucinogen - vyzhalnoprychynets;
        Gastroenterologist - Slunks
        I still chose western words

        Fully http://musmusculus.gorod.tomsk.ru/index-1233633865.php
        You don’t laugh here, but you have to cry
        Where in the world do they translate the name proper?
        In Ukraine!
        Chakhlik is undressing. (Koschey the Immortal)
        Koschey is my own name.
        In short Kehda kote nyuchago rozhit he egg testicles
        In said!
        And for a snack TROSTYANKA- Belarusian language (analogous to surzhik)
        In Belarus it is spoken (according to various sources) from 3 to 10%
        1. Foul skeptic
          Foul skeptic 21 May 2015 15: 52
          +2
          Saying that nobody needs the Ukrainian language, you sign for a considerable number of people for whom it is native. It's somehow ugly. And unfounded. The reason that the number of people who spoke it in the USSR was reduced in the particularities of the state system of the USSR and in banal human laziness (laziness on the verge of stupidity). I will explain. For centralized management, a common means of communication was needed. Why the Russian language has become this tool, I think no need to explain. And the phenomenon when parents wrote refusals in schools from studying the Ukrainian language is this laziness and primitiveness of human thinking that is inherent in many people without exception. Indeed, in fact, why learn something superfluous and add trouble to the child, extra lessons, time for homework, and bad grades need to be retaken and they can ruin the overall graduation picture. Why are these extra problems if there is still a common republican language? Such a primitive mercantilism, only without a material component.

          Rural mova? In the "rural", as you say, during my working youth I saw and used a lot of academic technical literature in the glorious city of Kiev. A strange "rural" language comes out.

          Further. Open the Ukrainian spelling dictionary (printed naturally) and try to find all those medical terms there. And, lo and behold, you will see there the normal correct analogues of these medical concepts. What for Ukrainian, what for Russian are borrowed words. And the absurdity that you showed, let's leave on the conscience of those people who decided to distort the language.

          Everywhere in the world there is a practice of translating proper names in certain cases. At the London Ballet ticket office, ask for your Schelkunchik ticket. Or in Russia, go, by analogy, to "Nußknacker".

          The fact that when you watched the movie you heard the words familiar to you, the result of the assimilation of languages. Exactly the assimilation that the Russian and Tatar languages ​​have.
          1. Foul skeptic
            Foul skeptic 21 May 2015 17: 05
            0
            By the way, about such a "funny" guintocryl. Why can't this word mean a helicopter? You can find in Russian-language sources not a rare phrase "rotary-winged aircraft" when describing a helicopter. The roots grow from da Vinci's drawings, where the surface that generates lift follows the mathematical helical. That is why the name "screw" stuck behind the helicopter propeller, although there is no external resemblance.
          2. Belgorod
            Belgorod 21 May 2015 17: 47
            0
            Saying that nobody needs the Ukrainian language, you sign for a considerable number of people for whom it is native.

            This is not my opinion.
            I immediately said that these were Internet discussions (Inosmi. What were the fights there before)
            By the way, the topic of discussion How the Ukrainian language was "spread rot" in the USSR
            It's first
            And secondly, I am Belgorod and both languages ​​are native
            I hear mov for fifty years
            After living a week in the Kirovograd region, then another five days, he was a baldman on a mov at home.
            Our city and region are connected with Ukraine by family ties.
            Whom do not touch at all or relatives or friends either in Ukraine or from Ukraine
            Kum-sister in Kharkov
            The wife works with a woman (originally from Kharkov), another sister in Dnepropetrovsk, brother in Poltava
            The daughter studied with a girl from Sumy (from that brother in Sumy OMON)
            Enough or continue?
            Therefore, for many, what is happening in Ukraine is SHOCK
            At first there was a misunderstanding, a desire to help
            A wave of hatred is rising now. Especially those who communicate directly with Ukrainians (refugees, traders, etc.).
            Rudeness, arrogance
            Woman (employee of the employment center, in the summer of 2014 met refugees at the border) -First, it was a pity ...
            A merchant comes to work at his sister-in-law. I'm ready to kill him
            A relative was lying with her daughter in Kharkov for two months, ten years corresponded on Skype, posts were deleted. What did I do to them?
            Long-term ties collapse
            There is a stream of hatred from Ukraine.
            But action gives rise to opposition
            This article is one such action.
            In satirical form, we spoke about the ideology of Ukrainians
            About an attempt to use language to separate from Russia
            (But the most interesting thing is they are offended when we say go on ... It seems that they are waiting for us to fall to our knees and ask them to stay)
            Tell propaganda, media, TV
            But
            Kum (in Belgorod since 1974, in St. Petersburg since 1985) has turned in less than three years into a stupid Bandera, the main cowardly, his wife is Russian from Tver, In St. Petersburg since 1985, too, bandera
            Maybe someone will explain what it is
            Over the year, the attitude in Belgorod towards Ukrainians has changed (I share the concept of Ukrainian and crest)
            Any feast is a conversation about Ukraine (let them go, let’s talk about something else and still about Ukraine)
            Recently heard Yesterday ate was evacuated.
            A bit messy. I was in Altai in February, recently I was in the Caucasus there a different attitude towards Ukraine (my brother first said glory to Ukraine, but he saw our faces shut up)
            While the message came, we can forgive a lot, but
            RUSSIAN DON'T FORGIVENESS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
            1. Foul skeptic
              Foul skeptic 21 May 2015 17: 54
              +1
              They wrote it very chaotically, I don’t even know what to answer, I just don’t understand the post. Excuse me.
        2. a housewife
          a housewife 21 May 2015 22: 55
          0
          Quote: Belgorod
          Belgorod (1)

          You intercede for the Russian language, you want Ukrainian, but in Russian you write absolutely illiterate !!! First learn your native language, then talk about others. Or is Russian not your own? negative
    3. patriot_serg
      patriot_serg 21 May 2015 08: 36
      +9
      Amazing nearby, but it is forbidden ....!
      1. EGOrkka
        EGOrkka 21 May 2015 09: 33
        0
        There have always been many storytellers ....
    4. Vend
      Vend 21 May 2015 10: 23
      0
      Quote: domokl
      Ah well done author. How vividly noticed. I enjoyed reading good

      The author has noticed very accurately. The Ukrainian language ceases to be a language, but becomes something inadequate. As in Russia in the 90s, the conversations of "new Russians" or the prison "bazaar". But in our country this was an offshoot of the Russian language, therefore it has outlived itself in broad strata of the population. And the Ukrainian language itself is turning into a "bazaar", soon it will be spoken, it is akin to bad taste.
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    6. siberalt
      siberalt 21 May 2015 13: 07
      0
      Even in the USSR, I could not find a Russian-Ukrainian dictionary. My father-in-law, evacuated to the Second World War from Kharkov, separately subscribed to the comic magazine "Shmil". And there were also such bright masters of humorous dialogue Tarapunka and Shtepsel. One spoke Russian and the other Ukrainian. Make yourself laugh. laughing
  2. Imperialkolorad
    Imperialkolorad 21 May 2015 05: 48
    +3
    The farther the more I come that the Ukrainian language is suitable only for beautiful and melodic songs. For everything else, applying it is silly and even funny.
    1. terrible
      terrible 21 May 2015 06: 40
      -2
      ) khokhlchtskaya dog mova is only suitable for screaming in the toilet "busy"!
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  3. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 21 May 2015 05: 50
    +1
    never really existed "Ukrainian language"

    An author in Ukraine has never been?
    Didn’t you hear about Zhirinovsky’s speeches about English terms? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpBuziVbGn0
  4. saniajan
    saniajan 21 May 2015 05: 51
    +18
    I have a friend from Ukraine, came in 2000, says that this is not a language, and surzhik and Ukrainians from one region do not understand Ukrainians from another, each has its own "fenya". )
    1. domokl
      domokl 21 May 2015 05: 57
      +7
      Your acquaintance is right. This is exactly what happens. Therefore, visitors are calculated right away. In LDNR, dill on the block of old men’s posts in the western dialect is specifically asked. That they don’t understand. This is proof of colorada.
    2. Humpty
      Humpty 21 May 2015 05: 58
      +7
      Quote: sanyadzhan
      I have a friend from Ukraine, came in 2000, says that this is not a language, and surzhik and Ukrainians from one region do not understand Ukrainians from another, each has its own "fenya". )

      This used to be a variant of common jargon, now it’s definitely a kind of fenya. The first Svidomo, or rather Svidomo-clerk of one of the Kiev banks met in 2006, I still have not left the feeling that I had to deal with a schizophrenic.
      1. Belgorod
        Belgorod 21 May 2015 17: 50
        +1
        My daughter has two girls at the institute.
        One from the Volokonovsky district, the other from Veidelevsky (neighboring districts of the Belgorod region)
        Did not understand each other
    3. Egoza
      Egoza 21 May 2015 06: 11
      +7
      Quote: sanyadzhan
      Ukrainians from one region do not understand Ukrainians from another, each has its own "fenya".

      Rather, people from Eastern and Central Ukraine do not understand the dialect of Western Ukraine. There are many borrowings from Hungarian, Polish, Romanian and local names that are not found here. In connection with Newspeak ... English words like mapa (map) etc. are introduced. as the Canadian "diaspora" says. “It’s our punishment at the corner to stand” “About what time we will be a sapper?” Those who learned English will immediately see how to translate into normal language “There is our car around the corner. At what time we will have supper”. Then words of the pre-revolutionary period are introduced, "not spoiled by the Russian language." Hence the "natsyutsyurnik and puporizka". But if the word "litak" can still be perceived, because all the same, from the word "fly", then it is "guntocryl" .... it turns out from the word "cog"
      1. inkass_98
        inkass_98 21 May 2015 07: 19
        +6
        Quote: Egoza
        then "guintokryl" .... it turns out from the word "screw"

        No, Elena, not really. Here the principle works the same: anyhow, it’s not a yak at mos_sk_les. There is such a concept "rotorcraft", i.e. helicopter using a wing for additional lift, or as a structural element. Its most striking example is the B-12, an experimental vehicle. In part, this concept can be applied to the Mi-6, Mi-24 and their more modern counterparts Mi-35, Ka-50/52. Again, there is a beautiful expression "rotorcraft", but in common speech it is the word "helicopter" that has become quite common (Boeing had a subdivision "Boeing Vertol" - now "Boeing helicopter" - an obvious use of the Russian name)
        And I can't even explain the comedic name "guntvka", you can't put it on your ears ... Just like "Vogon", "vognepripasy" and so on. Even the Polish word for "fire" does not fit the base.
        In general, if you dig around, you can find a lot of interesting things, not for me to tell you. That's just digging somehow ... dumb, or something. It used to be interesting, but now it's just disgusting.
        1. crumb
          crumb 21 May 2015 13: 03
          +1
          and guess what the spruce twist means?
          and figs guess that this is just that - idle shaft!
        2. a housewife
          a housewife 21 May 2015 13: 21
          +1
          Somehow I got hold of a songbook in Ukrainian, published in the 50s. there was: "Beats with wings in a rough fire." (fire beats in a cramped stove. "What, if only not like in Russian?
      2. Revolver
        Revolver 21 May 2015 07: 39
        +2
        Quote: Egoza
        In connection with Newspeak
        Back in the 1990s, a New York Russian newspaper scoffed at "Brightonisms." I can't forget one of them.
        Lock Dor Schaub the kids did not jump

        For those who don’t know: the southern part of Brooklyn, known as Brighton Beach, is also known as Little Odessa.
      3. siberalt
        siberalt 21 May 2015 19: 37
        0
        Well, the fact that deputies lack of integrity (immunity) seems to be difficult to understand. And no less ridiculous is non-borrowing - virginity or a natsiurnik - a condom. laughing
    4. ssn18
      ssn18 21 May 2015 07: 12
      +2
      In the early 90s in Kamyanets-Podolsk, a local guy (a good person) explained to me that before Lviv they say "Cup of coffee", and after Lvov "Kuhol kava"
  5. taram taramych
    taram taramych 21 May 2015 06: 00
    +6
    No matter how the outlying peoples wander, in moments of intense excitement, or spiritual enlightenment, they still switch to their native language - Russian!
    1. silver169
      silver169 21 May 2015 06: 23
      +7
      I agree. It’s like with faith in God, when in a moment of danger, each of us remembers him and asks for help. So the Ukrainians, no matter how they distorted, distorted the Russian language, and even in everyday life, most Svidomo communicates with it. Well, in a moment of danger, all this nonsense, for some evil irony called the Ukrainian language, simply evaporates from the dense scruffy heads and they suddenly and immediately switch to our common great and mighty Russian language. Paradox!
  6. Furious bambr
    Furious bambr 21 May 2015 06: 37
    +1
    Previously, at least there was a veal of mov ... And now, some muck!
  7. pticas
    pticas 21 May 2015 06: 55
    +2
    The other day I got into the hands of "Roshen" candy "Korivka". Until now, in perplexity, as I for 60 years, I have never heard the word
    "koriva", but only "cow"?
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 21 May 2015 07: 44
      0
      Quote: pticas
      The other day I got into the hands of "Roshen" candy "Korivka"
      And do you buy IT from IT? I will not even minus, but if God gets his hands on you, he will not "minus" yet.
      1. pticas
        pticas 21 May 2015 08: 25
        +1
        I was visiting my mother-in-law, in the city of Nikolaev, but there are no others!
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        2. I read the news
          I read the news 21 May 2015 09: 33
          0
          Tell us how it is now with the border. Do men miss?
          1. CONTROL
            CONTROL 21 May 2015 10: 13
            +3
            Castrate! when crossing the border back ...
            He did what he could (even if he didn’t want to) - but back (for the second time) you don’t want all one ...

            The joke was remembered:
            -Don't like to love us m.o.s.p.a.s.li ... Do not give gas ... do not feed ... loans are dumb! fertility is falling ...
            -
            - And what about the birth rate?
            - How "where"? Yes, do not love us m.s.k.a.l.i!
          2. Belgorod
            Belgorod 21 May 2015 17: 56
            +1
            Do not miss. Even with the help. In Belgorod, the station is empty. As a child, I remember trains, one by one. How did they become a border town - trains stood for 40 minutes.
            And now it's empty. Buses to Kharkov go empty. Recently I go in the evening on the bus three people sit.
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  9. ssn18
    ssn18 21 May 2015 07: 08
    +11
    Quote: born_in_cssr
    What is a fictional nation?

    I absolutely agree with you. I read on the net that the first mention of Ukrainians was 15.11.1915/XNUMX/XNUMX. in the emigrant press of the SGA. Prior to this, residents living in the territory of Little Russia and New Russia were ethnic Little Russians like T.G. Shevchenko (the lion's share of the works of which are written in Russian) or Rusyns Lesya Ukrainka. Ukrainians were called people who departed from Orthodoxy to Greek catalysis.
    Well, based on the newly adopted Durkaini laws on decommunization:
  10. linadherent
    linadherent 21 May 2015 07: 39
    +3
    But if the word "litak" can still be perceived, because all the same, from the word "fly", then it is "guntocryl" .... it turns out from the word "cog"

    Well, these devices were already called rotorcraft at the beginning of their history, but the letter G before this word is very confusing. My heart feels she is not there with a simple ... laughing
  11. Vovan Batkovich
    Vovan Batkovich 21 May 2015 08: 04
    +1
    Quote: Eragon
    , it is unwise to mock a foreign language. By the way, re-read the original text "The Lay of Igor's Campaign." There are half of modern Ukrainian words. These are those who shout that the Ukrainian language was invented just the other day.

    Ha-ha !!! And the ancient Egyptian did not try to compare with Ancient Ukrovsky? Surely you will find a lot of similar ... wassat
  12. Vovan Batkovich
    Vovan Batkovich 21 May 2015 08: 07
    +4
    Quote: Eragon
    , it is unwise to mock a foreign language. By the way, re-read the original text "The Lay of Igor's Campaign." There are half of modern Ukrainian words. These are those who shout that the Ukrainian language was invented just the other day.


    Ha-ha !!! And the ancient Egyptian did not try to compare with Ancient Ukrovsky? Surely you will find a lot of similar ...: wassat


    1. sunzhenets
      sunzhenets 21 May 2015 09: 56
      +4
      Fun. In the above commentary ukropopithek, which begins with the words "here you are a stupid, illiterate person!" for 10 short sentences I counted 36 mistakes.
  13. Ross_ulair
    Ross_ulair 21 May 2015 08: 23
    +11
    A couple of Germans are sitting in a tavern, and a couple of Ukrainians are nearby.
    The Germans looked at them with interest, then decided to roll up.
    - Guys, are you from Russia?
    “No,” they say, “we are from Ukraine.”
    - And what's that?
    - The country is like that. We have our own coat of arms, anthem, flag ...
    “This is understandable,” the Germans say. - And where is such a country?
    - Do you know Sevastopol? - Ukrainians ask.
    “I know,” one says. - my grandfather fought there. But this is Russia.
    - No, this is Ukraine. We have our own coat of arms, anthem, flag. Okay, how else can you explain ... Donbass know?
    - We know. But this is Russia!
    - No, this is Ukraine. We have our own anthem, coat of arms, flag ...
    The Germans see that nothing happens. Thinking:
    - Okay. What is your language? Russian?
    - No, ours, Ukrainian.
    “And what do you think?”
    - Arm.
    - And the leg?
    - Leg.
    - Hmm ... Well @ pa?
    - Wed @ ka.
    - And it was you, because of one cp @ ki, who invented a coat of arms, a national anthem, a flag ??
  14. Vovan Batkovich
    Vovan Batkovich 21 May 2015 08: 25
    +2
    And one more thing:
  15. Vovan Batkovich
    Vovan Batkovich 21 May 2015 08: 29
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    And more and more ...
  16. Vovan Batkovich
    Vovan Batkovich 21 May 2015 08: 32
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    !!!!!!!!!! Oh how!
  17. Vovan Batkovich
    Vovan Batkovich 21 May 2015 08: 36
    +5
    And a bit more:
    1. crumb
      crumb 21 May 2015 13: 09
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      bliiiinn! I realized that I regret that my ancestors are not great Ukrainians! fellow
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  19. Vovan Batkovich
    Vovan Batkovich 21 May 2015 08: 54
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    And a little more ...
  20. Foul skeptic
    Foul skeptic 21 May 2015 09: 09
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    Hello, many respected visitors to this online resource. I have been a reader here for a long time, as I am interested in military history and the history of military equipment. And in this segment this is a wonderful site. It was just his other side that forced me to register. Namely, articles like these. To begin with, it violates the rules for using the resource. Like the Nth number of comments on them. And end up with what she gives out wishful thinking. Therefore, my sincere wish for all future Birthdays of this site is less from politics, more from science. Peace to all.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 21 May 2015 10: 20
      +5
      You can’t get away from politics, but you’re tired of it: from all the irons and all the time about Ukraine. It is clear that this is an important topic, but I want articles about weapons and military-historical topics. Yours faithfully hi
  21. dimario
    dimario 21 May 2015 09: 41
    +3
    C'mon, normal article. Neighing collectively !!!!!
  22. forester
    forester 21 May 2015 10: 19
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    Yes, even if they meow, just do not force others to do it. You can’t burn out a language in such a territory and in such a large number of people! Tell me at least one literary work in the Ukrainian language, which received a Nobel or at least Booker prize, I recognize the Ukrainian language as self-sufficient and rich. That's it.
    1. Foul skeptic
      Foul skeptic 21 May 2015 10: 37
      +1
      The number of "awarded" works, I believe, still has a strong correlation or, in extreme cases, statistical dependence with the number of native speakers. This is the first thing. Without pretending to be true, I recommend, in order to determine whether a language is "self-sufficient and rich" or not, to take and read Ukrainian literature. At least within the framework of the school curriculum in Ukrainian schools. This is the second thing.
  23. Sevastopol
    Sevastopol 21 May 2015 11: 28
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    Ukrainian is a newspeak, and the Russophobian newspeak. As you know, the only Ukrainian idea is Russophobia. without this idea, it would not have been possible to preserve the huge chunk of land that had broken away from Russia, inhabited by the majority of the Russian population.

    so here in the Ukrainian language there is no word "Russian" at all. there is a "Russian". there was deliberately no place for Russians in their language.
    1. Foul skeptic
      Foul skeptic 21 May 2015 11: 44
      +2
      "in the Ukrainian language there is no word" Russian "at all"

      Lying. The question is conscious or from underdevelopment.

      Spelling dictionary Mezhenko, page 884 - "Rusky". This dictionary is just for example, and so it is one of many.
  24. a housewife
    a housewife 21 May 2015 13: 37
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    What do they want from us? Give them the Kuban! And why do they compose Muscovy? We don’t say Kiev, or Paris, or Warsaw. The country should be called as it is called by the inhabitants! Allowing only different pronunciation. hi
  25. Zionist21
    Zionist21 21 May 2015 13: 44
    +1
    Quote: born_in_cssr
    If there is no language, the territory is also visible, then why are they putting me down when I say that Ukrainians do not exist? What is a fictional nation? After all, the presence of language and territory are the main signs of a nation.
    And the one who calls himself a Ukrainian, and even conscious, is hostile to the Russian because he denies both the very connection with Russia, the commonality of history, and the Russians as a great independent civilization. How is that?
    Why do we praise such authors, but we immediately defend Ukraine in the comments.
    Where is the corsair? au Corsair! Then they beat yours!
    No, not to see the Corsair ...

    Ukrainian language is the language of the people of Ukraine, it is somewhat similar to Russian since its roots are common but it is a separate language of a separate ethnic group and each people has the right to self-determination and you are a fascist
  26. Siberian
    Siberian 21 May 2015 14: 06
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    Quote: Nefarious skeptic
    I very sincerely ask users of the site to refrain from "comparing" languages. This is a disastrous path


    What now do the linguist-scumbag Zadornov M.N.
  27. isker
    isker 21 May 2015 14: 07
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    funny language for folklore and nothing more ...

    ..we have propositionsii,
    on the first two positions
    and I will bang you
    that everything will be wise ...

    there used to be Ukrainians, but right now - one lack of integrity ...
  28. Vik66
    Vik66 21 May 2015 16: 12
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    found a link to a book, excerpts from which the author quotes the article.
    to all lie ...

    http://www.diary.ru/~bubochka/p46405557.htm?oam
  29. vik14025
    vik14025 21 May 2015 23: 03
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    Something the scope of the development of thoughts on the forum reminded me of surfing the Internet in general - you will start with the weather in your region and you will catch yourself somewhere where they discuss the outskirts.

    But the article, yes, is quite an article. It is not about language as such. There is a language that doesn’t matter how it was formed for the purpose of the article. Another thing is important. Some words of this language become almost proper names, bearing a completely unambiguous semantic and emotional load. The abundance of information washes away the name of the Minister of Emergencies of Ukraine, who went with a yoga coach to save his Svidomo brothers, but leaves LITAK, who is not an airplane. And this makes the word itself a concept, similar and a hieroglyph. And the fact that we take these words from a language that from afar is similar to ours - so what to do, because the speakers of this language fill them with meaning. And the fact that behind these words is hatred of everything Russian, idiocy, arrogance, greed, meanness, etc. - again - these are they - native speakers.