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Israeli grenades are not afraid of bullets

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Ministry of Defense of Israel after a successful "break-in" in the Gaza Strip has adopted improved hand grenade IM26, informs resource Popular mechanics with reference to the American edition of DefenseNews.



According to the Ministry of Defense, the feature of grenades is “resistance to direct bullet hit”.

The military department noted that “during a military operation at least one case of a bullet hit a grenade was recorded, which did not have any consequences: the grenade did not explode, and the bullet was stuck in it”.

According to the newspaper, "the grenades were developed by the Israeli company Israel Military Industries, and their design is distinguished by the technological separation of a detonator sensitive to impact and explosives that can withstand quite serious damage."



Israeli grenades are not afraid of bullets
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  1. fyvaprold
    fyvaprold 19 May 2015 18: 40
    +4
    The twist is unrealistic, but the photo is not accidentally American M26 Israeli production? With respect.
    1. MIKHALYCH1
      MIKHALYCH1 19 May 2015 18: 44
      +5
      Fictional however, well, well done! They care about the safety of their soldiers!
      1. torp
        torp 19 May 2015 18: 52
        +40
        Found something to surprise! The tank runs into a lemon and doesn’t explode, and the RGD 5 rolls into a pancake and everything is fine, too, but here’s a bullet, I’ll check it tomorrow, shoot grenades! wassat
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 19 May 2015 18: 57
          +17
          It’s easier to stuff a grenade into an armored codpiece (yesterday there was an article on VO), it just fits there. wassat
          1. Kunar
            Kunar 19 May 2015 19: 26
            +11
            I tried it ... It doesn’t climb tongue
            1. AGM
              AGM 19 May 2015 22: 57
              +5
              The traditional nitrocellulose pyroxylin and ballistic gunpowders used in tank munitions are quite susceptible to thermal effects and the action of a cumulative jet, therefore, in all samples of tank BPs in developed countries, they are replaced by hexogen-containing composites (LOVA-propellants), capable of functioning similar to conventional NTs-pore powders.


              In the early 70s, the US ground forces, as a result of a program to develop their "Abrams", drew attention to the danger of fires inside the tanks. The tank came out very cheap and not very massive, so the developers tried in every possible way to increase its survivability. Conventional nitrocellulose gunpowder quickly burnt out in the shells when a fragment hit or in a fire, leading either to a fire or to the explosion of the projectile itself, so the development of LOVA gunpowder replaced the usual one (Low Vulnerability gun Ammunition). These mixtures contained hexogen bonded with a polymer binder, burned very slowly under normal pressure and were prone to attenuation, so that piercing a shell with a fragment or heating should not have any serious consequences for the tank. However, all the efforts of the army were limited to this. New gunpowder went to the ammunition for abrams (gunpowder M39 and M43), along with traditional ballistic type JA-2.

              http://www.exploders.info


              Low sensitive blasting explosives





              EURENCO Corporation manufactures two types of "Low vulnerability" (LOVA) propellants for "insensitive munitions".

              The first type of LOVA propellants is made on the basis of RDX (RDX) as well as nitrocellulose, CAB polymer binder and an inert or energetic plasticizer. It is characterized by low vulnerability to external influences and increased momentum; it is used for 40-mm and 57-mm "insensitive ammunition", as well as in automotive security systems.

              The second type of LOVA propellants is based on low-sensitivity explosives such as DADNE (FOX-7) and GUDN (FOX-12), as well as nitrocellulose and low-sensitivity energy plasticizers. Designed for high-speed and other artillery pieces of various calibers, these propellants are characterized by high performance, low vulnerability, low cost and can reduce barrel wear.




              NATO countries are actively switching to low-sensitivity explosives and propellant charges.
              Do not explode even when pierced by a cumulative jet.
          2. NEXUS
            NEXUS 19 May 2015 19: 50
            +1
            Quote: SRC P-15
            It’s easier to stuff a grenade into an armored codpiece (yesterday there was an article on VO), it just fits there. wassat

            so all tolerance will be torn apart by a damn thing if a grenade in the codpiece what
            1. andj61
              andj61 19 May 2015 20: 37
              +1
              Yes, one cool thing went: yesterday about a codpiece with bulletproof booking, now - almost the same grenade ...
              1. Throw
                Throw 19 May 2015 22: 31
                +5
                Techno breakthrough! Codpiece grenade! Derny for ... tso! laughing
                1. Scraptor
                  Scraptor 20 May 2015 07: 51
                  +2
                  laughed so much that he could not immediately get into the "+" ... lol
          3. Zionist19
            Zionist19 19 May 2015 22: 54
            -6
            Zionism is still more alive than all living things, as required
        2. Baikonur
          Baikonur 19 May 2015 19: 04
          +14
          Quote: torp
          Found something to surprise! The tank runs into a lemon and doesn’t explode, and the RGD 5 rolls into a pancake and everything is fine, too, but here’s a bullet, I’ll check it tomorrow, shoot grenades! wassat

          It seems to me something in physics that if a bullet hits a grenade like this, then no one will explode!
          Only if it hits so that the fuse will work!
          So, what is it again, show off, raising the fighting spirit of the Israeli armed forces!
          1. Kars
            Kars 19 May 2015 20: 56
            +6
            Quote: Baikonur
            It seems to me something in physics that if a bullet hits a grenade like this, then no one will explode!

            There is such a program Mythbusters. They shot at grenades - from the M16 grenade explodes.
            1. ICT
              ICT 19 May 2015 21: 02
              +1
              Quote: Kars
              There is such a program Mythbusters. They shot at grenades - from the M16 grenade explodes.


              and by the way I looked, but there to me if the memory does not change the cocked grenade was already, i.e. already abandoned
              1. Kars
                Kars 19 May 2015 23: 03
                +1
                It’s precisely abandoned. But it was precisely from M16 that it exploded upon impact, it was broken from a rifle. Therefore, M16 most likely would not explode.
                1. ICT
                  ICT 20 May 2015 00: 22
                  0
                  Quote: Kars
                  So M16 most likely and not abandoned will explode.


                  there was a sniper, but shot at point blank range * (reviewed after reminder)
                2. spech
                  spech 20 May 2015 15: 16
                  +1
                  It’s precisely abandoned. But it was precisely from M16 that it exploded upon impact, it was broken from a rifle. Therefore, M16 most likely would not explode.

                  With all due respect, I don’t even recommend touching a cocked grenade. soldier
        3. FAZE
          FAZE 19 May 2015 19: 07
          +4
          Found something to surprise! The tank runs into a lemon and doesn’t explode, and the RGD 5 rolls it to a pancake and everything is fine too, but here is a bullet, tomorrow I’ll check it myself, shoot some grenades! wassat

          so the "filling" itself, the explosive is very resistant to shock, vibration, etc., but can react to an electronic spark. detonator with the initiating centuries.
          1. serega.fedotov
            serega.fedotov 19 May 2015 19: 16
            +6
            Quote: FAZE
            so the "filling" itself, the explosive is very resistant to shock, vibration, etc., but can react to an electric spark. The matter is in the damage of the detonator with the initiating cc.

            In one of a thousand hits, it might work! And in how many years this thousand hits will be typed?
            Somehow in the 2000s I read the statistics - about 4hp happens with grenades in Russia every year, I don't think that there are a lot of explosions due to bullets among these emergency situations (if at all). safety of use, well, and increasing the shelf life, and not for the sake of unlikely accidents!
            1. BARKAS
              BARKAS 19 May 2015 19: 53
              +8
              In our time, a sniper had so much fun spoiled several RGD-5 bullets, not one did not explode!
          2. Zionist19
            Zionist19 19 May 2015 22: 55
            -5
            pictured is a girl for slow-witted
        4. Kunar
          Kunar 19 May 2015 19: 24
          +1
          Nifspatey .... laughing laughing laughing
          1. Zionist19
            Zionist19 19 May 2015 23: 26
            -2
            cobblestone weapons of the proletariat and grenade weapons of Zionism get the enemy grenade
        5. figter
          figter 19 May 2015 19: 25
          +17
          I personally shot at the RGD-5 grenade. It happened when she did not burst, as expected. Do not throw it into the field in this position. He put on body armor, a helmet, crawled closer and shot from an AK-74 about ten meters away. It fell apart in two equal parts at the seam, the fuse worked, and ... nothing exploded. So, all this is a fairy tale about a good Israeli grenade.
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          2. S-cream
            S-cream 19 May 2015 21: 13
            +4
            from 10 meters? Yourself? Sappers were not called? At the training ground? Sorry, friend, I don't believe it. Somehow it looks more like a bike. This is not a collision, just a little info, and 10 meters are wildly embarrassing.
            1. figter
              figter 20 May 2015 18: 08
              -1
              I am deeply indifferent to whether you personally believe me or not. And since when have I become a "friend" to someone there? I have a rule to write and say only what I saw or experienced. I have no habit of lying. If you have any confirmation that I am lying, then present it. If there is no such confirmation, then bite your tongue.
              And mind you, "minus" is not mine. Although I don't like comments for the sake of comment either.
              1. S-cream
                S-cream 20 May 2015 22: 09
                -1
                Oh-oh-oh, what's the tone? "Friendly" is the appeal we have received. The local dialect, if you like, respected.
                "Bite your tongue" - not too hard, huh? Have I insulted you somehow? Maybe I said something like: "Friend, you p ... shh"? No. I expressed my attitude to your unsubstantiated comment. Why are you turning upside down? Your statement, you and to prove. And then, if you like. If you don't want to, we will stay with our own people.
                "Minuses" do not matter to me, although yes, the minus is not yours. Yes, and I did not put any "minuses" on you, if that.
          3. Zionist19
            Zionist19 20 May 2015 00: 00
            -2
            this is a weapon of victory
        6. Professor
          Professor 19 May 2015 20: 19
          +19
          Quote: torp
          Found something to surprise! The tank runs into a lemon and doesn’t explode, and the RGD 5 rolls into a pancake and everything is fine, too, but here’s a bullet, I’ll check it tomorrow, shoot grenades! wassat

          The article is always incomplete. The grenade was created after an officer died during the second Lebanese after a bullet hit a grenade while unloading. And on a similar grenade and a tank ran into and rolled out and "everything was fine too." And the developers claimed that the probability of detonation during shelling is close to zero. Tell the family of the deceased officer about this possibility. This will calm them down.
          And now for the fun part. After this incident, Tsakhal decided that there was more than one such incident and appealed to industry to create a safer grenade.
          Now it is adopted.
          1. ICT
            ICT 19 May 2015 20: 28
            0
            Quote: Professor
            demanding a safer grenade.
            Now it is adopted.

            THERE IS 7 TEST INFORMATION

            I repeat ideally as with armored doors, grills and RPGs
            1. Professor
              Professor 19 May 2015 20: 55
              +4
              Quote: TIT
              THERE IS 7 TEST INFORMATION

              Is that a question? If the question is, I met such information. The grenade was tested and was adopted. Several tens of thousands have already released them.

              Quote: TIT
              there is such a statistics on (airbag) in america the numbers are arbitrary

              saved 10 000 lives

              killed 150 people (due to a false positive)

              maybe we won’t put them on cars

              How many died due to grenade upgrade?
              1. ICT
                ICT 19 May 2015 21: 28
                0
                Quote: Professor
                Is that a question?


                Well, of course

                Quote: Professor
                How many died due to grenade upgrade?


                the question is, was there at least the point of an upgrade ?,
                Yes, and as they say

                was there a boy at all?

                what is it even cimus? if all this is true, put sulfur instead of explosive mercury? the reverse is also possible,
                Online MythBusters 14 Season

                with 35 minutes, activated grenades do not explode
                1. Professor
                  Professor 19 May 2015 21: 40
                  +1
                  Quote: TIT
                  the question is, was there at least the point of an upgrade ?,
                  Yes, and as they say

                  was there a boy at all?

                  So many comments and no one remembered about cutting the dough. Russian favorite topic ...
                  Immediately after this incident, it was stated that if there was a grenade that did not detonate with a lumbago, the officer would be alive. Now such a grenade adopted.

                  Quote: TIT
                  what is at least a cimus?

                  I do not know. I did not intervene in the details, it is not interesting.

                  Quote: TIT
                  with 35 minutes, activated grenades do not explode

                  Remove the fuse from the grenade. Put it on one pebble and hit it with the others. Disability guarantee.
                  By the way, I know how to detonate TNT without a detonator wassat

                  PS
                  If the news sounded like this:
                  Russian grenades are not afraid of bullets
                  According to the publication, "grenades were developed by a Russian company, and their design is distinguished by the technological separation of shock-sensitive detonator and explosives that can withstand quite serious damage."

                  How many praises here were performed, both solo, and in duets and even in chorus. laughing
                  1. ICT
                    ICT 19 May 2015 21: 55
                    +2
                    Quote: Professor
                    Russian grenades are not afraid of bullets
                    According to the publication, "grenades were developed by a Russian company, and their design is distinguished by the technological separation of shock-sensitive detonator and explosives that can withstand quite serious damage."


                    love to juggle

                    need a test report

                    took xnumx standard grenades from them exploded xnumx
                    took 1000 grenades with an upgrade from them burst ZERO,
                    otherwise

                    statistics thing is fierce and you

                    Quote: Professor
                    Tell the family of the deceased officer about this probability. It will calm them down
                    1. Professor
                      Professor 20 May 2015 06: 47
                      +1
                      Quote: TIT
                      love to juggle

                      By no means.

                      Quote: TIT
                      need a test report

                      Now I'm running to the general IMI for statistics ...
                      This grenade is naturally offered for export, and zachachit has passed a series of tests by mil standard. Most likely on the 105th. What is it customary to take AQL, I do not know, this is not my topic. request
                  2. ICT
                    ICT 19 May 2015 22: 09
                    +2
                    Quote: Professor
                    Remove the fuse from the grenade. Put it on one pebble and hit it with the others. Disability guarantee.


                    we almost copied them,
                    without throwing a training grenade, they waited for detonation, then they unscrewed the one that worked and inserted the next one and so on until it got tired,
                    those. I represent the power of the fuse, and if you take clay bricks or cobblestone for more then there will be nothing but a BACH
                    1. Professor
                      Professor 20 May 2015 06: 48
                      0
                      Quote: TIT
                      we almost copied them,
                      without throwing a training grenade, they waited for detonation, then they unscrewed the one that worked and inserted the next one and so on until it got tired,
                      those. I represent the power of the fuse, and if you take clay bricks or cobblestone for more then there will be nothing but a BACH

                      Again. Remove the fuse from the grenade. Put it on one pebble and hit it with the others. Disability guarantee. Or are you afraid of something? wink
                      1. ICT
                        ICT 20 May 2015 07: 38
                        0
                        Quote: Professor
                        Again. Remove the fuse from the grenade.


                        There is no way out to the military depots, but I’ll correct, to be honest, the difference is only now that I’ve caught a century, live a century, study .......... (although there are metal grenades in the school 5 times) the post above about these


                        but in combat
                      2. Professor
                        Professor 20 May 2015 08: 29
                        +1
                        I am glad that we understood each other.

                        PS
                        In childhood, we threw a fuse or a detonator in a bonfire. Boom and no fire. Everyone is thrilled.

                        PPP
                        A classmate turned the palm of his hand with a fuse. Would be an adult, would receive a disability. Well, at least her eyes didn’t.
          2. ICT
            ICT 19 May 2015 20: 34
            0
            Quote: Professor
            . And the developers claimed that the probability of detonation during shelling is close to zero. Tell the family of the deceased officer about this probability.


            there is such a statistics on (airbag) in america the numbers are arbitrary

            saved 10 000 lives

            killed 150 people (due to a false positive)

            maybe we won’t put them on cars
          3. ZKB
            ZKB 20 May 2015 07: 45
            0
            what nonsense !!! The grenade was created after an officer died during the second Lebanese after a bullet hit the unloading grenade.
            And if a bullet had hit him in the head, probably he would have died too. hit a bullet in a grenade is an accident. certainly he wasn’t marked in a grenade. and the likelihood of such a hit is negligible. (Well, unless of course he is like a martyr all hung with grenades). in my face it’s easier to get into a face than in a grenade and more effective
            1. ICT
              ICT 20 May 2015 08: 19
              0
              Quote: ZKB
              And if a bullet had hit him in the head, probably he would have died too. hit a bullet in a grenade is an accident. certainly he wasn’t marked in a grenade. and the likelihood of such a hit is negligible. (Well, unless of course he is like a martyr all hung with grenades). in my face it’s easier to get into a face than in a grenade and more effective

              Yes, that’s not the issue, here he dug up a male through 4х4 local
              The new ammunition IM26 developed by the Israeli company Israel Military Industries. They differ from ordinary M26 in layering of highly sensitive initiating and impact-insensitive main explosives. Impact-insensitive explosives in an IM26 grenade are located in the outer loop closer to the shell. Otherwise, the new ammunition is no different from M26 - the explosion is still initiated after the checks are pulled from the fuse.


              wrapped the fuse with something probably?

              but it’s embarrassing that



              According to representatives of the Israeli Ministry of Defense, these grenades were successfully tested during the last military operation in the Gaza Strip last summer.


              such tests were passed in humans and on one grenade concluded?

              According to Avi Felder, president and chief executive officer of IMI, such a grenade saved the life of at least one paratrooper.

              - The bullet hit the body of a grenade suspended over the body armor and stuck in the steel of the body, but there was no explosion, ”said Felder. “If it were an ordinary grenade, she would have killed the soldier on the spot.”
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        7. Zionist19
          Zionist19 19 May 2015 22: 57
          -1
          In Israel, invented an electronic diet pill
          Engineers and scientists from the Israeli company MelCap Systems have invented a revolutionary "technotablet" that will help obesity patients without surgery.

          According to the Daily Mail, the invention looks like an ordinary tablet that needs to be washed down with water. But this device works on the principle of a gastric stimulator - an implant, which is surgically implanted in the stomach and transfers false information to the vagus nerve, which is responsible for regulating appetite. Thus, the device deceives the human brain, so that he thinks that his stomach is full.

          And, of course, it could not do without the eternal companion of modern man - a smartphone, with which it will be possible to control the "smartpill" from the outside.

          The estimated cost of this device is still unknown, but it will not exceed 15 thousand dollars - the cost of a gastric stimulator. His clinical trials will begin later this year.
        8. Zionist19
          Zionist19 19 May 2015 22: 57
          -1
          In Israel, invented an electronic diet pill
          Engineers and scientists from the Israeli company MelCap Systems have invented a revolutionary "technotablet" that will help obesity patients without surgery.

          According to the Daily Mail, the invention looks like an ordinary tablet that needs to be washed down with water. But this device works on the principle of a gastric stimulator - an implant, which is surgically implanted in the stomach and transfers false information to the vagus nerve, which is responsible for regulating appetite. Thus, the device deceives the human brain, so that he thinks that his stomach is full.

          And, of course, it could not do without the eternal companion of modern man - a smartphone, with which it will be possible to control the "smartpill" from the outside.

          The estimated cost of this device is still unknown, but it will not exceed 15 thousand dollars - the cost of a gastric stimulator. His clinical trials will begin later this year.
      2. ZKB
        ZKB 20 May 2015 07: 38
        0
        I apologize, but what is the practical sense ??? something I did not hear about the mass death of personnel from bullets in grenades. some kind of nonsense. a grenade is not a bulletproof vest; for her, other characteristics are important. And this is a matter of chance. Today did not explode, but tomorrow it will explode. (we can defective grenade, does not explode at all :-))
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      4. Svateev
        Svateev 20 May 2015 10: 41
        0
        Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
        Well done!

        But our Russian gunsmiths fellows for a long time. In 1982, we cadets at the school threw RG-42, who had been in warehouses for more than 35 years. Of the 400 pieces of grenades, only one did not work. Not eager to approach her (the devil knows when she decides to jerk), our company first shot her from AK74. Hit, turned her side, but she did not explode. Only by throwing another grenade close to this non-working company did he get rid of it. But whether the failed one detonated or was simply thrown somewhere by the explosion of a second grenade, no one understood.
    2. sent-onere
      sent-onere 19 May 2015 18: 47
      +3
      The impetus for the creation of this somewhat unusual grenade was a case that occurred in 2010. Then, during an army operation, one of the Palestinian militants fired at an Israeli soldier. The bullet hit a grenade, which lay in the pocket of a military man. The detonation ammunition exploded and killed two fighters.
      1. Kunar
        Kunar 19 May 2015 19: 50
        +2
        A special case! And rare luck .... Theoretically wedges the firing pin .... and if it got into the brisant then - .. oops crying
    3. GRAY
      GRAY 19 May 2015 18: 56
      +24
      31. Grenade without a fuse - completely safe to handle. Even the hit of a new model rifle bullet does not cause a grenade explosion, which in most cases is broken into pieces. In rare cases, the explosive charge of a grenade from a bullet strike lights up and burns quietly with the release of black smoke. Burning lasts a few minutes. If a bullet enters a grenade with an inserted fuse, especially close to the capsule, it will cause an explosion. Therefore, inserting a fuse into a grenade should be done shortly before throwing.
      © I. G. Korits "Instructions for throwing hand bombs and grenades." 1916.
      http://www.bergenschild.narod.ru/Reconstruction/archive/instrukction_granat/inst
      ruction_granat.htm
      1. Kunar
        Kunar 19 May 2015 19: 56
        +2
        Handsome, the instructions haven’t changed much since then!
    4. Simon
      Simon 19 May 2015 19: 10
      +4
      But actually, sometime this grenade explodes? recourse
    5. Kunar
      Kunar 19 May 2015 19: 17
      +1
      Happiness then fell! The Jews stuffed their grenades with sawdust ..... I composed soup on the RGD ...
    6. Juborg
      Juborg 19 May 2015 20: 08
      0
      Even did not understand! A grenade seems to need a fuse, but it does not dynamite from a bullet explode.
    7. Nrsimha42
      Nrsimha42 19 May 2015 20: 50
      0
      I noticed that too. Fuse - like an American. I had several training grenades with such fuses - old, since the Vietnam War.

      You can buy them at our GunBroker.com weapon auction.

      http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=483445765

      http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=483445980
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    9. siberalt
      siberalt 19 May 2015 22: 51
      0
      Did chance help make a discovery? Oh well! Let them try again laughing
  2. GSH-18
    GSH-18 19 May 2015 18: 42
    +1
    What is this props? On the first photo from the "grenade" straw sticks out or some thread! The bullet was obviously stopped by hand ...
    1. GSH-18
      GSH-18 19 May 2015 18: 49
      +1
      According to the publication, “grenades were developed by the Israeli company Israel Military Industries, and their design different technological separation of shock-sensitive detonator and explosivescapable of withstanding quite serious damage. "

      PR or what? request In RGD and F-1, detonators are also separated from the charge of trinitrotoluene, a fuse with a check can be safely turned out of a grenade! What's new invented? I think that if a bullet enters the air (like the Israeli one in the figure), then it, too, will be blown up. It all depends on the thickness of the grenade shell ..
    2. ivan.ru
      ivan.ru 19 May 2015 20: 59
      +1

      GS-18 (5) EU  Today, 18:42


      What is this props? On the first photo from the "grenade" straw sticks out or some thread! The bullet was clearly stopped by hand


      and the shell is pierced with a hammer
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  3. sent-onere
    sent-onere 19 May 2015 18: 43
    +6
    Now you can hang with grenades and there will be a very effective body armor!
  4. padded jacket
    padded jacket 19 May 2015 18: 44
    +9
    And Israeli tanks are not afraid of mines laughing



    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 19 May 2015 19: 03
      +2
      Everything is afraid of mines.
    2. Kunar
      Kunar 19 May 2015 19: 58
      0
      Voshpe nirazu, yeah ...
  5. sent-onere
    sent-onere 19 May 2015 18: 45
    +2
    This is some kind of improper grenades in them charge, that is, or so they fired at the dummy to show us a photo.
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 19 May 2015 18: 54
      +3
      Quote: sent-onere
      These are some wrong grenades.

      The most correct grenade is the F-1 in a faceted glass! Whoever uses will understand!
      1. Kunar
        Kunar 19 May 2015 20: 00
        +2
        Exactly! Liver to smithereens ... drinks
  6. bootlegger
    bootlegger 19 May 2015 18: 47
    +1
    So what do we see in the photo? The bullet simply did not reach the detonator. And getting the result would be predictable.
    Initiating explosives are very sensitive to shock.
    It is not very clear which fragmentation field a grenade with such a strong shell will produce.
  7. NKVD
    NKVD 19 May 2015 18: 50
    +10
    Yes, nothing new, TNT is not sensitive to lumbago, but if you shoot a detonator then it will certainly explode. And then the detonator would explode from a brisk impact
    1. traper
      traper 19 May 2015 18: 58
      +1
      and it’s not a fact that it will explode. if the bullet gets into the capsule or the initiating charge, then yes, there will be an explosion, and if in the moderator tube, then it will not.
  8. srelock
    srelock 19 May 2015 18: 59
    +5
    I didn’t know that grenades explode from bullets at all laughing
    The article is a minus.
    1. ICT
      ICT 19 May 2015 19: 19
      +2
      According to the Ministry of Defense, the feature of grenades is “resistance to direct bullet hit”.

      The military department noted that “during a military operation at least one case of a bullet hit a grenade was recorded, which did not have any consequences: the grenade did not explode, and the bullet was stuck in it”.


      there were no tests? and immediately to the troops

      as I understand it, we should have been shown at least a hundred of such grenades shot by various types of cartridges (and not one with a stuck bullet at the end)

      and so there are different cases in life (miracles at every turn, even in my humble life there are enough of them
      ),
      1. ICT
        ICT 19 May 2015 19: 31
        +2
        I don’t know why, but I remembered a story about one miracle,
        but this is a privacy, not a system


        http://mmg-shora.ucoz.ru/publ/1-1-0-25
      2. Kunar
        Kunar 19 May 2015 20: 09
        0
        Especially grenades need to devote a separate article in the section. RGN and RGO. Methods and methods of use. I saw them in 1987. And a lemon and rgp5-it’s all well known.
    2. Kunar
      Kunar 19 May 2015 20: 02
      0
      Duc she did not explode .... Otherwise, there would be no article feel
    3. kotvov
      kotvov 19 May 2015 20: 08
      +3
      I didn’t know that grenades explode as a result of bullets. ,,
      Why are you spoiling Israel's holiday?
  9. Prisoner
    Prisoner 19 May 2015 19: 07
    +6
    You can’t propiar yourself ..., in general, geniuses of self-advertisement anneal. In short, sunflower oil without cholesterol. wink
    1. Vladimir Pozlnyakov
      Vladimir Pozlnyakov 19 May 2015 23: 05
      0
      Quote: Captive
      You can’t propiar yourself ..., in general, geniuses of self-advertisement anneal. In short, sunflower oil without cholesterol. wink


      And a few years ago, information flashed about the Jewish invention of a rifle firing FROM ANGLE, with special optics!
      1. Professor
        Professor 20 May 2015 06: 52
        +1
        Quote: Vladimir Pozlnyakov
        And a few years ago, information flashed about the Jewish invention of a rifle firing FROM ANGLE, with special optics!

        The most interesting thing is that this "rifle" was acquired by Russian special forces. Are you going to cry or laugh? laughing
        1. Prisoner
          Prisoner 20 May 2015 09: 23
          +1
          Why cry? These "corner shots" did not seem to have proven themselves badly. If it is possible to sneak out of cover, why not do it? With all the dope on the line of fire without having to climb not to eat gut.
      2. Prisoner
        Prisoner 20 May 2015 09: 15
        +1
        The idea is old and not theirs. Fritz still did.
  10. Normal ok
    Normal ok 19 May 2015 19: 37
    +5
    The familiar chief of the shooting range told me that somehow I got a batch of RGN grenades, with a lot of misfires. He tried to shoot unexploded from the SVD. Everyone crumbled into pieces, but not one exploded. Can also squeeze an advertising article laughing
    1. Kunar
      Kunar 19 May 2015 20: 11
      0
      Like a fool, glass horseradish ... I could tell a lot ... BB it is in Africa -BB..zh
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  12. Abbra
    Abbra 19 May 2015 19: 49
    +1
    It remains for them to invent a flying sapper shovel, and self-tapping berets ...
  13. Vasily V
    Vasily V 19 May 2015 20: 15
    0
    All ammunition is designed and manufactured in such a way that there would be no accidental, non-standard operations, including from being hit by bullets and shrapnel. Jews they are, Jews are, out of the blue, a "miracle".
  14. Cat man null
    Cat man null 19 May 2015 20: 30
    0
    Standard RGO - no worse.

    The Israelis can argue ... if they get ...

    DIXI. Article - minus .. well, it happened))
  15. Russia
    Russia 19 May 2015 20: 47
    +2
    Things are good! The grenade did not explode!
    But show me the idiot in battle, which specifically aims at the enemy’s grenade, and not at his head, for example!
    And statistics of bullet hitting a grenade during all wars and conflicts - in the studio! Grenades explode much more often, falling into the hands of "monkeys"! laughing
    In short, the guys conducted experiments and got promoted. But how cool it sounds - "safe grenade"! negative
  16. Asadullah
    Asadullah 19 May 2015 20: 55
    0
    Quote: Professor
    Quote: torp
    Found something to surprise! The tank runs into a lemon and doesn’t explode, and the RGD 5 rolls into a pancake and everything is fine, too, but here’s a bullet, I’ll check it tomorrow, shoot grenades! wassat

    The article is always incomplete. The grenade was created after an officer died during the second Lebanese after a bullet hit a grenade while unloading. And on a similar grenade and a tank ran into and rolled out and "everything was fine too." And the developers claimed that the probability of detonation during shelling is close to zero. Tell the family of the deceased officer about this possibility. This will calm them down.
    And now for the fun part. After this incident, Tsakhal decided that there was more than one such incident and appealed to industry to create a safer grenade.
    Now it is adopted.



    The grenade can only explode in one case, if the bullet hits the detonation mechanism. Therefore, the "new" grenade can only be spoken of as a new fuse, protected from accidental hit. There were cases of rupture of FOGs in unloading, from being hit by a bullet or shrapnel.
  17. Aleksey_K
    Aleksey_K 19 May 2015 20: 56
    0
    Well, here in Israel they reached the level of the 40s of the last century. In Europe and the USSR, grenades have not exploded on their own when bullets hit. It was not necessary to focus on American bullshit in armaments.
    1. Zionist19
      Zionist19 20 May 2015 01: 07
      -1
      thank you and you do not get sick
  18. Michael_59
    Michael_59 19 May 2015 21: 15
    0
    I am impressed by the approach of the Israeli defense industry. Caring for a soldier. Everything for the front, after all ... And most importantly, to talk about it. So that everyone knows. And who even buys!
  19. ssn18
    ssn18 19 May 2015 21: 22
    0
    What is this article about? Works of Baron Munchausen?
    Please specify the volume and page. laughing
  20. Father
    Father 19 May 2015 21: 42
    -1
    what kind of heresy do I have current NVP lessons and even I smile knowing throwing grenade devices
    1. MIKHALYCH1
      MIKHALYCH1 19 May 2015 22: 06
      0
      Quote: Old Man
      what kind of heresy do I have current NVP lessons and even I smile knowing throwing grenade devices

      Israel just makes money .. The Saudis will obviously sell a large batch and technology (they play a point))) You need to invade Yemen .. but it's scary .. bully
  21. Valery T.
    Valery T. 19 May 2015 22: 12
    0
    Well, the loot has already been sawn.
  22. Sarmat149
    Sarmat149 19 May 2015 22: 26
    0
    Quote: fyvaprold
    The twist is unrealistic, but the photo is not accidentally American M26 Israeli production? With respect.

    Specially fit into the first comment. Guys or guys - I don’t know what to call. Have you ever been in the army? And if they were, then where did they serve? Structurally, not a single hand grenade when piercing it with a bullet, fragment, etc. doesn't explode. Explodes only with a fuse, i.e. for its intended purpose, well, or if you throw it in a fire, etc.)))
    I read the article, comments, it became somehow sad. You didn't really know that? And how much can you write about Israel? Is this country so important? Are there any other problems? Small children: "the grenade didn't explode, oh how interesting"
    1. kuz363
      kuz363 20 May 2015 06: 00
      0
      But the steering wheel, getting into the fuse, can not trigger the fuse? After all, it is triggered by the impact of the striker fuse on the capsule? Well, Pali also has an impact.
  23. Dinko
    Dinko 19 May 2015 23: 11
    0
    If a grenade is equipped with TNT, then why should it explode because TNT does not explode from a bullet! Maybe they had such reliable fuses for grenades?
  24. Zionist19
    Zionist19 20 May 2015 00: 59
    0
    Quote: torp
    Found something to surprise! The tank runs into a lemon and doesn’t explode, and the RGD 5 rolls into a pancake and everything is fine, too, but here’s a bullet, I’ll check it tomorrow, shoot grenades! wassat

  25. kuz363
    kuz363 20 May 2015 05: 57
    -1
    Yes, Jewish bullshit, leading to an increase in the cost of grenades. What is the probability of a bullet entering a grenade? And because of this, to fence fuss?
  26. terrible
    terrible 20 May 2015 14: 40
    0
    ) and which bullet fired on a grenade? Lead or armor piercing?