Sergey Kurginyan: The conflict between Ukraine and Russia is fraught with catastrophe comparable to the collapse of the USSR

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Sergey Kurginyan: The conflict between Ukraine and Russia is fraught with catastrophe comparable to the collapse of the USSR

“Further escalation of the conflict is fraught with a geopolitical catastrophe both for Russia and for Ukraine, comparable in scale and consequences to the collapse of the USSR,” the experimental creative center, presented by the Foundation’s head Sergei Kurginyan, said in the analytical report of the International Public Fund (OIF).

“The current development of relations between Russia and Ukraine is already called a“ confrontational dive ”. Mutual accusations of the unfriendly economic, informational, and diplomatic policy of a neighbor are growing. The degree of conflict between countries brings the situation to a“ point of no return ”, to a final gap - economic and political,” the report says. According to the foundation, the negotiations of the President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovich with the leadership of the Russian Federation that took place in Moscow on 24 September “though led to encouraging statements by the parties about the prospects for resolving the gas dispute that did not bring a decisive change in relations.” “I have a general feeling of unfavorable situation. There is an elusive strategic well-being that can make you pay a high price for yourself, and this can happen in the coming years,” Kurginyan said.

“To be successful one by one, and simply politically and economically to survive in the current global world plunging into madness is extremely problematic. There are no other (outside the CIS) proposals for unification either in Russia or in Ukraine,” the report says. Kurginyan believes that almost no one in the world has such growth potential as Russia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan and Belarus now have. "220 million population, plus natural resources, plus scientific and engineering potential, plus technological chains of industrial relations, plus almost zero cultural and psychological barriers and a single language of communication, plus a well-educated workforce with relatively low consumer demands ... Almost anywhere in the world are such competitive there are no advantages ", - the expert is convinced.

The authors of the report warn: the security of Russia depends on Ukraine. Opponents of the integration of the two countries have long been trying to cut off Russia with the “double Baltic-Black Sea belt of the hostile“ New Europe ”. This is done in order not to give“ German, French, Italian industrial capacities and technologies to unite by land or sea ” - considers Kurginyan. "Unfriendly Ukraine will immediately make a hole in the system of defense, military, and economic security in the western and southern direction. Only direct losses to Russia from the gap with Ukraine will cost the treasury 8-10 billion dollars a year. Kiev will also get it: the industrialized Ukraine does not need the West. They are interested in utilizing Ukrainian resources, fertile soil, developed infrastructure, and industrial demographic potential, the political analyst is convinced. In his opinion, “world civilization” is ready to accept post-Soviet candidates only as “cash cows”.
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  1. ZEBRASH
    +11
    7 October 2011 13: 19
    Only together can we repel external threats! In unity, power bully
    1. Ivan35
      +4
      7 October 2011 18: 45
      I agree Zebrash! Together we are strong and saved - they will crush us separately. It has long been time to introduce a single currency and unite not only about but also everything under a single command
      1. NUT
        NUT
        -9
        7 October 2011 21: 51
        Quote: Ivan35
        and everything is sun under a single command


        but nothing that they still have Mazepa a national hero?
        1. URB
          URB
          +2
          7 October 2011 22: 13
          Do not write about what you have no idea ....
  2. 0
    7 October 2011 14: 05
    Together, strength ... only apparently this many people don’t understand ..... discouraged by the cries of nationalists that on the one hand what is on the other ... I do not judge people ... but what the president of Ukraine is doing right now ... the gate doesn’t climb ...
    and you know that ... it’s upsetting that WE SAME BROTHERS IN BLOOD ... how many have passed together ... how many have survived ... and now in Ukraine you feel like a stranger ... correct me if I'm wrong ... but he came across when he was in Kiev, asked the locals for the way ... to which they answered to me on the move that they do not understand the Russian language ... of course not all of them .. but over the years there are more and more of them ...
    1. Ivan35
      -1
      7 October 2011 18: 43
      So are you like Natsik too (fascist or what?)? I don’t remember, but somewhere you spoke out - no? Am I confusing?
      1. -1
        7 October 2011 22: 15
        for Ivan 35. no, I have nothing to do with this fraternity. maybe you made such a conclusion on the basis of some of my posts, I’m just sincerely glad for my mother Russia. for that matter, then I have Ukrainian roots in both Russian and Bulgarian and German ... so somehow I don’t fit either a Nazi ... or a fascist ..
        1. Tyumen
          -1
          7 October 2011 22: 22
          And the local patr-r-riots (in the voice of the Dzhigurda) understand either black or white, although normal people may have different opinions on different issues.
  3. itr
    -7
    7 October 2011 14: 14
    Close border and dot
    and then crawl on their knees !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  4. +4
    7 October 2011 14: 59
    Ukraine needs a new Bogdan Khmelnitsky to join Ukraine to Russia again. The reunification of Russia, Belarus and Ukraine will increase the economic potential of the state by 2-2,5 times.
  5. -1
    7 October 2011 15: 39
    Our e-e leaders are to blame for their ambitions, rednecking and grabbing. Ukraine took steps towards rapprochement, albeit small and timid, waiting for a reaction, but in response red-hotness of edrosov. At least some concessions to the fraternal people, some opportunities for independent taxiing at least at the initial stage, at least to save face. So no, it’s necessary to put cancer, humiliate, blackmail. Anyone will be offended and will turn away. And the Belarusian Old Man is generally ----- and if only to lick ass pendos to blood. Where will the friends come from?
  6. escobar
    +2
    7 October 2011 16: 04
    Believe me, no one will creep anywhere. It’s not the people who are guilty, but the elites (if this word is generally appropriate as the definition of our officials and oligarchs). We buy gas more expensive than the Germans. Julia the bonded (criminal) signed a contract, possibly somewhere out of hopelessness - we want to watch. Russia is against - we are glad that they took relatives for the gills. I also want to summarize Russia, I love Ukraine, and I hate states
    1. Evil Tatar
      0
      7 October 2011 16: 31
      But tell me, Escobar, how much on the counter you have a cube. gas meter (in the apartment)? Or a standard propane cylinder (40 liters)?
      Then we’ll talk ...
      1. escobar
        0
        7 October 2011 17: 24
        If you transport it for bucks, then for $ 40 liters you will get $ 31. Ukraine produces its own gas and is enough for domestic use, while industry is hauling gas from Russia
        1. Evil Tatar
          0
          8 October 2011 17: 19
          Almost 1000 rub.?
          We have about 700 rubles. But, according to the counter, for 6 mb. I pay about 500 rubles a month.
          If you make a simple mathematical calculation, it turns out that for 1000 mb. gas consumer in Russia pays about 3500 dollars ...
          Question: - how much does liquefaction of gas cost if its export value is taken as a basis?
          Walrus more than 1000% is how you?
          And this is in a country that produces gas and executives boast that in Russia consumers pay at preferential rates ...
          Horror !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
          Well then talk about consumer citizens of Ukraine, Belarus, etc. ...
          Brace yourself, Brothers!
          All the best, for all of us, ahead ...
  7. keng
    -4
    7 October 2011 16: 34
    Well, the author went too far. We can do without Ukraine, as we did without other former republics. And shut up the hole. But what will Ukraine do without our gas? Another question.
    1. Graaf
      0
      7 October 2011 18: 25
      ... to me this (your thoughts) reminds me of babble in the sandbox.
      How are you going to get around when your leaders are dragging Ukraine into a union by force and threatening along the way? Don’t enter - you will pay even more for gas. Well, so we pay for gas. What's this? It reminds me again of the sandbox and offended children.
      You can manage without other countries, but definitely not without Ukraine. And your president understands this very well, only he forgot the law of physics: the more you press, the more you resist!
      And about "your" sir gas - I have a question for you. And how many cents (kopecks) do you personally receive from each thousand m3 of gas sold? As far as I understand, what you get .... how would I put it correctly - just a dummy in your pocket and not a cent more. Right?
      So your attempts are not worth anything! Just steam !.
  8. -1
    7 October 2011 17: 28
    and I think they’ll manage without ..... you won’t be forcibly sweet ..
  9. gans
    -8
    7 October 2011 19: 32
    Ukrainians will ruin any union in two seconds, even if they serve the West, because they really wanted this, and they’re not fighting on our side,
    1. Tyumen
      +5
      7 October 2011 20: 33
      Do not confuse the Ukrainian people with the fosterlings of Yusch.
      1. Evil Tatar
        -2
        10 October 2011 10: 20
        I agree, Tyumenets35
        Who said Ukrainians?
        Hans? A little girl who got lost in the wilds of reality?
        What's the catch?
        It’s like about another, it’s kind of brief and clear to say about someone ...
        But in the eyes, with anger, it's a scream ... Nobody speaks if he does not want a conflict. Moreover, there are one roots, one mentality. We are brothers, in short! And if we give something to light the enemy ... Together.
        Hans, I have a beloved Hohlushka wife, by the way closer to the western ...
        And relatives in Vinnitsa and Zhmerinka ...
        Many friends, acquaintances - Ukrainians ...
        And my battalion commander lives in Ukraine, and he passed the Afghan and taught others, and now he teaches the mind the mind ...
        So to hell with you Hans, Mesny and other trolls and their supporters! Choke on your poisonous saliva and blood, which you get tired of wiping ...
  10. +2
    7 October 2011 20: 08
    as long as Gazprom and Naftogaz exist, there will be no agreements and there will be no unity either. Two Jews fight and have a go at un ip!
    1. Tyumen
      +1
      7 October 2011 21: 37
      Similarly, and not at all getting old
      Everywhere, and at any time of the year,
      Lasts where two Jews converge
      The debate about the fate of the Russian people.
  11. +9
    7 October 2011 22: 46
    Dear, I feel that now again fall on srach. let's try without it at least once?

    What between by governments there is some friction between the two states - it happens. The price of gas, pipelines, Sevastopol, etc., etc., etc. These are working moments. Yes, when solving these issues, our rulers sometimes behave like eccentrics with the letter "M", also there is no doubt. But where does nations?

    The state is one thing, and the people who inhabit this state are another. do not mix one with the other.
    Often in the comments, opponents tolerate the actions of governments and attribute them to the whole people. WHAT FOR??? Sorry, if m% duck Yushchenko canonized scum and traitors, this does not mean that every resident of Ukraine thinks so.

    And it turns out every time the same thing: "And you have Crimea! - and you have gas - and you have Yanukovych! - and you have Medvedev!" ... Kindergarten, by God ...

    Yes, we still have Medvedev. not really, I agree. In Ukraine, Yanukovych ... he is still a fruit. SO WHAT???

    Russia will be able to live normally without Ukraine. The times of Kuchma showed it. More land, more resources and so on. But Ukraine is unlikely to be bent without Russia. Yes, it will be rotten, hard, good uncles will come with loans (I will not continue, Russia, with the EBN as an example). But the reality is that the crest is so easy to drive into the land. OH, crud, stubborn.

    The question is different: DO YOU NEED? No, of course someone needs. Who is interested in to maximally fuck from the territories of the former USSR. Nationality and citizenship do not touch. We leave in the frame only just people who lived earlier in the same territory, and now on two. What, forgive, share? Gas? Crimea? YES GOOD TO YOU !!!! To us from this, all the same, nothing breaks off. So we rush at each other? People need to be regardless of the price of gas, the price of gas is not an indicator.

    Even if Medvedev and Yanukovych with each other in Minsk (for example, on neutral territory) muzzle each other, shall we also have to engage in fistfight? Well, in general, and so already, in words, but these are words ...

    In short, that's enough for you, really. Not Russia robs Ukraine in the history of gas. And Ukraine does not bother Russia in the history of Sevastopol. Behind this are specific people. And behind the words there are also specific people. So let's not be like those with whom we do not drink ... We are people, whatever one may say.
    1. Marat
      +2
      8 October 2011 01: 10
      Good comment, Banshee! As always to the point and on time - until the people again slipped to the "showdown"
      1. +1
        8 October 2011 05: 30
        My comment doesn’t work - Banshee said everything, how.
        I can only add that I worked with Ukrainians, and even asked around. It turned out that the separation from the territory of Russia was a shock for many. Ask yourself a question - why did Ukraine secede? And they answer - "Yes, hell knows." a treatise, but even it (a treatise) causes only a kind smile in our peasants.
        In principle, the sensible little article confuses only a hint of irrevocable divorce (utter nonsense).
        1. Tyumen
          -1
          8 October 2011 17: 47
          So they still will not dash one treatise, while the peasants have a kind smile.
  12. Russian
    +2
    8 October 2011 05: 59
    Well, there's nothing to be done, if the top of Ukraine is looking for - how to sell more expensive, but to grab more freebies!
    as always, the people suffer, the majority of which are well aware that "paradise" in the EU will not be,
    and here friendship with Russia, this is a real prospect profitable in every way.
    West, first of all, needs - Ukrainian-Russian bordersand all the rest then ...
  13. bosxxl
    -1
    8 October 2011 06: 01
    America is to blame for everything. It destroyed the USSR and continues to drive Russia into the abyss.
    1. Evil Tatar
      -1
      8 October 2011 17: 11
      bosxxl: Got it, apparently this is a question?
      This is to blame ... And much more ...
      Blacks strangled and strangles.
      Arabs do not live.
      Serbs has gotten a fuss ...
      September 11, about 30 thousand innocent souls ruined.
      Iraq, Afghanistan ... How many victims?
      Egypt, Libya, Syria ... Continue?
      Is Japan poisoning Russia?
      What about Iran? Next in line? Or so, in passing, hope?
      What are you, dear?
      And the USSR is the work of THEIR "policy managers"!