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Chestnuts are blooming in New Russia

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Fresh, but rather dense greens - in Moscow it happens by the end of May. Spring New Russia breathes the scent of flowering trees. And suddenly, in the midst of a celebration of nature, there are several ghost buildings with burned window openings.



“Hero-City Ilovaisk,” says the driver. On the plate with the name really already attributed to paint: "Hero City". The private sector - neat houses with landscaped gardens. But no, no, and there will be a house with an exploded roof - the consequences of the war.



Again, green trees, flowering pears, pyramidal poplars ... And then the car drives into Donetsk. I am going as a member of a delegation of Eurasians who are bringing a new book by the political scientist Valery Korovin “The End of the Ukraine Project” to the New Russia.



The first thing that strikes the DNR in the capital is the cleanliness that is incredible for the situation. "As if there was no war." Chestnuts and lilacs are blooming in the city. In the center there are practically no traces of war. But, as the accompanying people say, there are areas where it is impossible for people to live - a lot has been destroyed there and shelling by ukrokrateli is continuing from time to time.



Monument to the Ukrainian poet Taras Shevchenko ... Public utilities ennoble the territory around him. Those who brought Donetsk a lot of suffering raised Shevchenko to the shield. They all over Ukraine destroy monuments that they do not like. But Donetsk does not fall to revenge of this kind, especially monuments that can not answer.



Sometimes the sounds of fighting are heard - in spite of all the Minsk agreements, the “dill” does not leave the city alone. But these gaps are rare and sound from afar, from the airport area. I have something to compare with — in Damascus, the war “sounded” much more clearly. “But in the summer it was a complete hell,” say the locals. In addition, it is said that on the night of May 4 shelling was intense.



The building of the city administration (where, in fact, young Novorossiya was born in battles) has not yet fully disassembled barricades. Then, the Pitmen protesting against the Kiev coup dug up the paving stones and put up some protective structures from it.



On the walls of the houses there are inscriptions "bomb shelter" and is shown by the arrow where to go in an emergency situation. I would like to believe that they will no longer be needed by residents. That the children of Novorossia will study, play football, see the sunlight, and not sit in the dark, in fear and confusion ... But it is difficult to pin hopes on the conscience of those who have repeatedly promised peace, and then started the war again. From Kiev politicians can always hear only threats against Donetsk, Lugansk and even the Crimea.



But the "war graffiti." The inscription "Glory to Ukraine", made by some svidomitom, crossed out. Instead, it says: “Glory to Donbass!” The Ukrainian flag painted on the wall is crossed out: “No, thank you,” say the residents of the city.





In the library named after N.K. Krupskaya with the support of the leadership of the People’s Council of the DPR, a presentation of the book by V. Korovin “The end of the Ukraine project” was held. Many people gathered - even the chairs were not enough for everyone. “Ukraine is a falling state, which we just have to push, because it is more and more actively flying to the abyss. From the last forces it mobilizes information resources, from the last forces it tries to attract people across the whole territory of Ukraine, driving them into the armed forces. But their collapse becomes more and more obvious, ”Andrei Kovalenko, head of the Eurasian Youth Union, said in his speech at the event.



But, if Ukraine as an anti-Russian project is really rapidly decrepit, then the May New Russia looks young and fresh. Courageous Donetsk is preparing to celebrate the Day of the Great Victory 9 May.

It so happened that after the presentation our group was divided. Then we read news on “ukropovskih” sites: allegedly in the center of Donetsk there are automatic gunfire, and all people are hiding. We are surprised: just from there, and no hint of panic. It turned out that the pseudo-authors of this “news” were taken for the resumption of the war ... preparation for the upcoming military parade in honor of May 9. My colleague from Rostov, Oksana Sazonova, who was in another group, captured this pre-holiday moment:



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Elena Gromova, Oksana Sazonova
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    2. siberalt
      siberalt 6 May 2015 10: 38
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      Amazing people in the Donbass! They live under the bombing, celebrate weddings, give birth to children. A little quiet on the streets brought a marafet. Yes, every Hero is already there! Such a nation is not possible to defeat. Happy Victory Day, dear people of Donetsk!
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  2. Don Cesar
    Don Cesar 6 May 2015 07: 11
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    and in Donetsk there are a lot of roses !!! beauty !!!
    1. lelikas
      lelikas 6 May 2015 14: 03
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      At the beginning, sakura blossomed yesterday!
      And today, on the way to work, I saw a "Shaha" with Ukrainian plates, a portrait of Che and a DPR flag on the rear window :).
  3. fomkin
    fomkin 6 May 2015 07: 15
    +12
    He allowed himself to post the statement of his beloved writer. After the Gromova flock, thoughts involuntarily suggest themselves.
    1. Mic1969
      Mic1969 6 May 2015 09: 04
      +1
      After reading "Barbarossa" I began to treat this writer much worse. negative
      1. Nissa-on
        Nissa-on 6 May 2015 13: 46
        +1
        Do not do like this. The writer was almost at death and was ill a lot.
        After all, "Cruisers" and "Moonzund" did not become worse from this
        1. alicante11
          alicante11 6 May 2015 15: 53
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          That's right, Moonsund, Cruisers, Wealth, Three Ages of Okini-San. It is simply heaven for the reader. And even heavy hard labor, Unclean Power, Word and Deed, this is also the golden fund of Russian literature. For gourmets, for sweets - long-playing "Backyards" and "Potemkin's adventures". But for Barbarossa I also take offense at Savvich, for Comrade Stalin, it's a shame, damn it. Also striking are the "Stark minion boats" and the artillery tower on "Askold".
  4. veksha50
    veksha50 6 May 2015 07: 25
    +5
    Mdaaa ... Struck both the city and the tanks preparing for the Victory Parade ...
    So the guys really have the reincarnation of Victory, I’m not afraid to say this word ...
    You can only wish good and luck to both the population and the soldiers ...

    I remembered a warm, soulful song: "Chestnuts are blooming again, the splash of the Dnieper is heard ..."

    With the upcoming holiday, you, the New Russian, Donetsk, Luhansk !!!!
    1. Altona
      Altona 6 May 2015 12: 28
      +1
      Quote: veksha50
      Mdaaa ... Struck both the city and the tanks preparing for the Victory Parade ...

      -------------------------
      Tanks of Novorossiya, by the way, look very dashing ... Nothing worse than "Armat" ...
  5. Anatoly G
    Anatoly G 6 May 2015 07: 30
    +2
    Beautiful city! May God grant you peace.
    1. torp
      torp 6 May 2015 11: 37
      +1
      The city, in fact, has become more beautiful than before the war, everything has been cleaned and washed, the communal services are great, that's who you need to erect a monument to! And the parade will be the envy of Kukuev!
  6. Crucian
    Crucian 6 May 2015 07: 36
    +8
    The resilience of the Donetsk people, and indeed all the inhabitants of New Russia, is amazing !!! Good luck to you!!!
  7. meriem1
    meriem1 6 May 2015 07: 49
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    Quote: Karas
    The resilience of the Donetsk people, and indeed all the inhabitants of New Russia, is amazing !!! Good luck to you!!!

    They are just Russians and remember their roots. In Them The Glory Of Their Heroic Ancestors. It’s hard to do what it should, it’s not to ride on the Maidan screeching from anger and inability to change at least something.
    1. saag
      saag 6 May 2015 07: 56
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      Quote: meriem1
      They are just Russians and remember their roots. In Them The Glory Of Their Heroic Ancestors.

      It is curious to read at the same time this - "again sounded" we saved all the Russians, the Russians lived only in Crimea, only they rebelled, and the rest does not concern us. "" Http://topwar.ru/74458-rostislav-ischenko-cyurplyas- i-artobstrely.html
    2. KGB WATCH YOU
      KGB WATCH YOU 6 May 2015 15: 46
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      Only the Russian leadership is still unclear that this great people living in Donbass has been suffering the "Russian world" for a year. And in spite of everything, he does not turn away from Russia. Our Kremlin "elite" cannot understand. Their accounts are not in the DPR and LPR, but in the EU and the USA.
  8. brisk
    brisk 6 May 2015 08: 11
    +1
    This is all interesting and instructive. But about - "the end of the project Ukraine", "no Ukraine" - let me disagree with you, dear V. Korovin. To make sure of this, come from Donetsk to the regional center neighboring Donetsk - the city of Zaporozhye. The capital of the Zaporozhye region. Zaporizhzhya region and Donetsk region are adjacent areas. Zaporozhye is my hometown. There is only 198 km between the center of Zaporozhye and the center of Donetsk in a straight line on the map. Before all this orgy, I often traveled to Donetsk on a regular minibus. Only 3 hours away! So, in Zaporozhye, at least, you would be puffed up, if not more. Start to present this there: "the end of the Ukraine project", "no Ukraine", "a contrived state called Ukraine", etc. Moreover, not only Svidomo "business" - nouveau riches - "activists" 35-40 years old in caps and yellow-blue flags / ribbons ("patriots") would say this, but for the most part (at least 80%) all local people - from young to old. And for Novorossiya, at least in relation to Zaporozhye, they would not praise. Although the absolute majority would agree with the recognized sovereign Novorossia in its location in today's "stub" of Donbass. For them, Ukraine is not a phantom at all. This is their country. And their homeland. It is doubtful that even the old people of Zaporozhye, for the most part, will rank as their homeland, for example, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan or the Republic of Bashkortostan (as the song says - "my address is the Soviet Union"). As an observant and curious resident of this city, I will tell you this. And this is in a large city close to Donetsk. Do you think that the situation in Kharkov will be very different from Zaporozhye? And in Odessa, Nikolaev, Dnepropetrovsk? Oh, hardly! The bulk of their inhabitants hate the arrogant ruling clique that has settled in Kiev, but not at all for their country, Ukraine. Should we reckon with this or not: with such moods of the inhabitants of these localities? Or is it still necessary to adamantly repeat and pursue our own line: "the finished project is Ukraine", "there is no Ukraine"? Is this a wise approach?
    1. old man54
      old man54 6 May 2015 12: 55
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      Quote: svelto
      So, you in Zaporozhye, at least, would be muffled, if not more. Start to present this there: "the end of the Ukraine project", "there is no Ukraine", "a contrived state called Ukraine", etc. Moreover, not only Svidomo "business" - nouveau riches - "activists" 35-40 years old in caps and yellow-blue flags / ribbons ("patriots") would say this, but for the most part (at least 80%) all local people - from young to old. And for Novorossiya, at least in relation to Zaporozhye, they would not praise.

      FROM ukro-nazi couch troops Gauleiter parashenics write to us ?? laughing Oh well!
      But I know about other sentiments in Zaporozhye, and not isolated, but massive. Yes, the people there are no longer fighting today, alas, especially after about 200 years ago the Cossacks from Khortitsa left there for the Kuban and beyond the Don. But, many openly wait for the militia from Donbass; dream of bringing in Russian troops so that they can be freed, although they do not shout about it in the streets; hate ukrov and all ukropskoe; they consider themselves Russian both in spirit and in blood, and they even say that when we are free, they will probably just beat the face in Zaporozhye for "Little Russian mova" (Ukrainian)! angry
      hi
      1. brisk
        brisk 6 May 2015 14: 03
        +2
        Quote: old man54
        . But, many openly expect militias from the Donbass; dream of sending troops of the Russian Federation

        Well, about the troops from the Donbass and the troops of the Russian Federation, this is you, please do not lie. There is no such in Zaporozhye. A year ago it was still possible to meet, but today it is no longer. There are no bad ones. Or very few. Everyone knows and understands how the arrival of troops and the war going on with them ends. Unlike you, sofa warriors. Because you are a couch fighter, you can so freely rush with such calls for troops to other cities where they do not exist and where you deny them with both hands. Donbass before the eyes. By the way, in Zaporozhye 20 thousand refugees from the Donbass. And so many of them strongly dislike us. And some even hate fiercely. And not only security officials and officials. As if it were a 70-year-old grandmother in a hospital bed, a kindergarten teacher, or a cleaning lady in the Security Council threw bombs and shells at them. Or hard workers from Zaporizhzhya factories sent tanks to them. Moreover, not only declassed marginals clatter their teeth at us like that, but well-educated Donetsk residents and Luhansk residents. She is a refugee from Lugansk. It turned out in Zaporozhye. I got a job in Zaporozhye in my specialty - a doctor in a hospital. And to what extent she hates us! Ordinary Cossacks, among whom lives. I would have broken my teeth! Naturally forced, as far as possible, to hide her fury. But you can’t conceal an awl in a bag - it climbs out. So she lives among us, we are the masters here. She is an ordinary civilian and, moreover, not a man, but a wife. And such hatred for us, the inhabitants of Zaporozhye! And she acts like that. And you say-the Cossacks are waiting for the militia with the DNI-LC with weapons ?! Are you out of your mind ?! We, in our own way, do not want this at all - the arrival of the militia to us with weapons. because we know what this entails for us. Tell your children, sir, these tales - about how Zaporozhye is waiting for militias in the MLRS and BMP tanks. If you have children. Or your peers if you yourself are still a child. And who are you to sign for Zaporozhye and its inhabitants? I live in Zaporozhye all my life, I know the local mood and atmosphere. Where are you from? Never in Zaporizhia will not be beaten for the Ukrainian mov. And do not dream about it. Although Zaporozhye is predominantly a Russian-speaking city. But we have a lot of speakers of Russian-Ukrainian surzhik. We have this talk at the genetic level. This moment completely eliminates all your Wishlist, so that here they begin to beat the face for the Ukrainian Move. In contrast, for example, from Russia, where you live. There, Ukrainian dialect-surzhik does not even smell and close. That is the difference between us. Non-critical difference, very small. Unless some types add kerosene to the sluggish, artificially induced custom scandal. And you also belong to such types. It is necessary to achieve full rights for your language. And we will achieve it, for the Russian language. This does not mean that we will achieve this through war and the death of (mass!) People.
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    2. Herbalist
      Herbalist 6 May 2015 13: 09
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      I agree with you. Zaporozhye is Ukraine. People feel like Ukrainians, they love this country and it doesn’t matter if it is artificial or what it is (in the end, all countries were invented by someone) and there is nothing wrong with that.
      But Crimea, Donetsk and Lugansk-this is not Ukraine. Only a small part of the villages in Donetsk and Lugansk regions are Ukrainian in spirit.
      Donetsk and Lugansk do not feel like Ukrainians and they do not want to live in a foreign country, but wish a speedy return to their homeland.
      1. brisk
        brisk 6 May 2015 14: 18
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        Quote: Travnik
        But Crimea, Donetsk and Lugansk-this is not Ukraine. Only a small part of the villages in Donetsk and Lugansk regions are Ukrainian in spirit.
        Donetsk and Lugansk do not feel like Ukrainians and they do not want to live in a foreign country, but wish a speedy return to their homeland.

        Not everything is so smooth. There are many Ukrainian villages and towns in the Donbass. Ukrainian to a certain extent, with reservations. Not like, say, in the Poltava, or, especially, Zhytomyr or Khmelnitsky regions. But still, no doubt, with a significant presence of the Ukrainian element. And in large cities such a feature also often comes across. That is, after all, is it not that in the Tula and Pskov regions? Quite a lot of Ukrainian writers came out of Donbass, those who wrote in Ukrainian language. The most famous is Sosyura. The only right decision is to end the armed confrontation, transfer to the plane of peaceful coexistence. He wants to live DNR-LNR according to his passports - please live! In a few years, when everything will more or less calm down and settle down, it is advisable to hold district referendums throughout the Donbas. In order to get the most objective picture, such a referendum must be a district election. If such a statement soars, the whole population of Donbass is hated by Ukraine and everything related to the Ukrainian. In order to find out who wants to stay in Ukraine and who wants to leave, they themselves will remain in the Russian Federation. That will be their business. If all 100% want to leave - then please. And if there are those who want to return to Ukraine, this will also be their full right. Did I say something wrong?
        1. old man54
          old man54 6 May 2015 17: 09
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          Quote: svelto
          It is advisable to hold district referendums throughout the Donbass.

          But do you want to hold quarterly or apartment-by-house referenda? :))))) There, too, everyone has different moods. In 91, something was not done in the regions of referendum, although Crimea and the same Donbass and Kharkov simply demanded them :)) Or wasn’t that again? lol Fatazer, I’ll take a look, at least I made fun of it, and thanks laughing good
          1. brisk
            brisk 6 May 2015 23: 25
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            Quote: old man54
            But do you want to hold quarterly or apartment-by-house referenda? :))))) There, too, everyone has different moods. Something in 91 in the regions of the referendum was not carried out, although Crimea and the same Donbass and Kharkov simply demanded them :)) Or wasn’t that again? Fatazer, I’ll take a look, at least I made fun of it, and thanks

            I expected such an answer from you. This is the maximum that you were able to answer. In this case, I am conducting a dialogue only with you. There are no other visitors and readers here for me, I don't notice them. Therefore, I will speak to you personally. As in the novel by Fyodor Mikhailovich Dostoevsky "Crime and Punishment" Marmeladov spoke with Raskolnikov in the tavern, as if only with him alone, oblivious and completely oblivious to the other joking witches listening to him. We will be with you some symbols. Archetypes, so to speak. I offered you the BEST OPTION. The most realistic and reasonable actions. To have as few dissatisfied people as possible. And offended (they are not in order to carry water to them !!!). Did it make you laugh a lot? Or have you decided to remember the old one again? Well, it's your business. I personally would give Crimea to you, i.e. RF, together with the Crimeans. Even to the point of being reasonably de jure (de jure it is from the side, as it were, dissatisfied, from my, so to speak, side). No talking. And I would not have started a scandal about this. If only it made me feel a little better. In my 50 years of life, I have never been to Crimea. Although I live not far from it, 300 km. So - in distant lands, thousands of kilometers away, I was, but in the Crimea I have never been. Therefore, your Crimea, for which here and in other places saliva emanates (from different sides), for me Crimea is a pure abstraction. KRYMNASH, KRYMVASH, KRYMYKH is one devil for me EVERYTHING. The main thing is that he is not a bit CRIMEA. And it won't be mine. What with the USSR, what with Ukraine, what now, with the Russian Federation. Share your Crimea, or embrace it with full hugs and be happy about it - this is "TO THE LIGHT" for me. You don't know a damn what and how in Zaporozhye. In my city, where I was born and lived all my life. I don’t undertake to judge what and what state of people and things in your native Barnaul. And so I would google on your Internet forums, pick up virtual friends and draw conclusions: what is your situation there. But I have no right to do so. Including moral. And our surzhik of Polish origin (similar to a pig like a horse, only a different tail!), You can despise and swear at him. Nobody calls you to love him. Yes, and by definition you are not capable of that. Unlike me. If you do not understand, I will repeat once again - my native language, from infancy, in which I learned to speak, is not Ukrainian language, but RUSSIAN LANGUAGE. Has it reached you? And I know him as well, at least as you do. That is why I like to write a lot in my native Russian language, a generous exponent of thoughts. And here, after all, this is the only way of communication. Is there a videoconferencing function on Voennoye Obozreniye? And about this your "but they say this to me" I will answer you with the words of Plyushkin to Chichikov - "Would you, father, spit in the eyes of the one who said this!" Laugh, since you are such a funny person. The whole page was smeared with laughing faces. Just remember - laughter can easily and suddenly turn into bitter sobs. How would you, yes, yes, it is you, you personally, who would not have to cry bitterly because of your unrestrained laughter in the end.
        2. Victor jnnjdfy
          Victor jnnjdfy 6 May 2015 20: 52
          +1
          In March 92 he left the Odessa VO. During this time, the population of the city where he served decreased by a quarter. There were three large enterprises in the city. Now the last is dying. The population has one very "substantial" job - to trade in the bazaar.
          As one resident of this city said: "I love my homeland, but I hate the current country with maidan horses. All normal people try to leave here."
          Enough here for Mr. "light" fairy tales. Reality on the territory of b. Ukraine is somehow completely without gaps. The country is simply left without "normal" citizens. And without them, on whom and what can those who remain?
          1. brisk
            brisk 6 May 2015 23: 47
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            Quote: Victor Jnnjdfy
            During this time, the population of the city where he served decreased by a quarter. There were three large enterprises in the city. Now the last is dying.

            Well, what do you mean by that? There are a lot of metallurgical enterprises in Zaporozhye. At the very least, everyone is working. Even ZTMK ("Zaporozhye Titanium and Magnesium Combine") produces titanium ingots. But ZALK ("Zaporozhye Aluminum Combine"), he died several years ago. After it was acquired by Russian citizens from the Deripaska clan in 2001. And there was a large enterprise for the production of aluminum. Do not interpret this as that I am throwing a stone towards Russia and Russians in general. And the end came quickly after that. Yes, metallurgy works in Zaporozhye. A plume of smoke from smoking factories stands over the city - they are working! And not only metallurgy works in Zaporozhye. At the very least, Motor Sich is working, and ZAZ (Kommunar) is glowing, ZTZ ... So, all this needs to be gouged with shells and mines, along with the troops that came? Do you urge us, residents of Zaporozhye to this?
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              1. brisk
                brisk 7 May 2015 10: 18
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                Quote: Victor Jnnjdfy
                It really did not like the United States (your owners).

                You have poor speech, poor vocabulary, worn-out and hackneyed topics and phrases ... USA, USA, USA ... Well, let the Russian Federation officially declare war on the USA. The reason is quite valid - the United States is constantly sneaking meanly to Russia, wants to kill her in the end. And fight in a fair open military battle. And this long-standing question will finally be resolved and closed once and for all. And why are you, instead of this honest and open, courageous step, clinging to your small neighbors, if the root cause and the main culprit and customer of all this meanness is the United States? Estonia, sprats ... Ukraine is a country with a population of 3,6 times less than in the Russian Federation. And with a GDP 10 times less than that of the Russian Federation. And its armed forces are ten times weaker. This is not to mention the fact that the Russian Federation has a lot of nuclear weapons ready for use. A worthy military adversary for the Russian Federation, Ukraine, so that the Russian Federation can fight with it! Whether or not Ukraine will be accepted into the EU is a matter for the EU and Ukraine. The EU, of course, is the main decider at the moment. Why does it bother you more than us, the question of admission? And Ukraine is in the priest and we are completely or not completely, this is also our concern. About Donbass, I unsubscribed in this thread and expressed my position. And the position of my fellow citizens. They are the absolute majority. I somewhere at least a hint approved the actions of the Kiev administration in this matter - military operations in the Donbass? I suggested how to solve this problem with minimal costs (including bloody costs). And so that as few discontent as possible remain, in the Donbass first of all. What else are you missing? A new Danzig corridor to Transnistria? And vicious and aggressive Russians are concentrated in places like this site. I'd like to believe that there are still a smaller part of them in Russia. I communicate with normal Russians very kindly. Online, of course. And they are with me the same way. We are far from each other. We talk about simple everyday topics - children, animals, health ... We support each other in peace of mind in difficult life. None of us even hints at the war in Donbass, Novorossiya, the problem of Crimea's ownership. But you (and you personally too) are not normal Russians. Good Russians are not yet "tolerant liberals".
                1. Victor jnnjdfy
                  Victor jnnjdfy 7 May 2015 13: 14
                  +2
                  The war is on. The United States is waging a war with Russia not with its own hands, but using people like you. Since the Russian Federation has nuclear weapons, the US will not declare war on it, and Russia is generally for Peace. Iraq, Libya, Syria ... not Russian handiwork. The United States wants to drag the Russian Federation into the Ukrainian bedlam. But Russia does not want to "win" Ukraine, realizing that the "vanquished" will have to be fed, without any hope of at least some gratitude on their part. I wrote in the commentary, which was removed, that you, "very smart guys", are not needed by us, the Russians, to fight with you. In the same place he wrote that it was not the Donbass who climbed to fight you, but you came to him with shells and mines.
                  "Whether Ukraine will be accepted into the EU is not for me to decide." Did I decide something in the commentary? Did you read it badly? I just explained to you, "very clever," that the EU has minimum social standards for the population. There are very few Balts and they, after all, are not as ruined as yours. You are 35 million "very smart", and the EU will not feed such a horde from its own pocket. But, probably, you do not have enough mind to understand this.
                  About the Danzig Corridor. So, a very clever connoisseur of History. The PMR, in addition to economic strangulation, wanted to press down using military force. There are many Russian citizens among the inhabitants of the PMR, and there are Russian peacekeepers. What should have been the reaction of the Russian Federation if Ukraine, in response to the "aggression" against it, the PMR began hostilities?
                  This site has a lot of "hurray-patriots" and just stupid people. Very smart like you are rare here. Don't lie to you about the "benevolence" of other Russians. Very smart Ukrainians to them, Russians, to one place, because enough of their problems. Russians regard you precisely as "very smart." They are fed up with you on the TV news.
                  Live your mind and jump higher ...
                  1. brisk
                    brisk 7 May 2015 16: 44
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                    Quote: Victor Jnnjdfy
                    Don't lie to you about the "benevolence" of other Russians.

                    Good, I liked your answer. But I’m not lying. You probably read my answer hastily and inattentively? I wrote to you that I and those Russians are not talking about politics and interstate relations (the Russian Federation and Ukraine in particular). What, politics and battles are the only topics for discussion ?! Believe, do not believe, in our communication there is no politics at all. Absolutely absent. I don’t like these topics in recent years and I’m trying to find someone else online for myself in very distant directions. This is where I am, accidentally wandered, but I look around with surprise - what am I, what kind of lock did I get into: asuras or prets? ... And we have completely different topics for conversation there, I listed them above. We just managed to become friends in RuNet. Don’t believe it again?
                2. Victor jnnjdfy
                  Victor jnnjdfy 7 May 2015 13: 14
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                  The war is on. The United States is waging a war with Russia not with its own hands, but using people like you. Since the Russian Federation has nuclear weapons, the US will not declare war on it, and Russia is generally for Peace. Iraq, Libya, Syria ... not Russian handiwork. The United States wants to drag the Russian Federation into the Ukrainian bedlam. But Russia does not want to "win" Ukraine, realizing that the "vanquished" will have to be fed, without any hope of at least some gratitude on their part. I wrote in the commentary, which was removed, that you, "very smart guys", are not needed by us, the Russians, to fight with you. In the same place he wrote that it was not the Donbass who climbed to fight you, but you came to him with shells and mines.
                  "Whether Ukraine will be accepted into the EU is not for me to decide." Did I decide something in the commentary? Did you read it badly? I just explained to you, "very clever," that the EU has minimum social standards for the population. There are very few Balts and they, after all, are not as ruined as yours. You are 35 million "very smart", and the EU will never feed such a horde from its own pocket. But, probably, you do not have enough mind to understand this.
                  About the Danzig Corridor. So, a very clever connoisseur of History. The PMR, in addition to economic strangulation, wanted to press down using military force. There are many Russian citizens among the inhabitants of the PMR, and there are Russian peacekeepers. What should have been the reaction of the Russian Federation if Ukraine, in response to the "aggression" against it, the PMR began hostilities?
                  This site has a lot of "hurray-patriots" and just stupid people. Very smart like you are rare here. Don't lie to you about the "benevolence" of other Russians. Very smart Ukrainians to them, Russians, to one place, because enough of their problems. Russians regard you precisely as "very smart." They are fed up with you on the TV news.
                  Live your mind and jump higher ...
    3. Fedor
      Fedor 6 May 2015 21: 07
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      You would be proud of 300 heroes-Cossacks, and you give us a poppycock about the ongoing change. I would like to ask these people, but did anyone die in the southeast? As a matter of fact, after what has been written about the events in Novorossia, something else to explain to you additionally is not to respect yourself. Not further than today V.V. They reported to Putin about 500 thousand of such women hiding from conscription in Russia.
      1. brisk
        brisk 6 May 2015 23: 55
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        Quote: Fedor
        Fedor Today, 21:07 ↑
        You would be proud of 300 heroes-Cossacks, and you give us a poppycock about the ongoing change. I would like to ask these people, but did anyone die in the southeast? As a matter of fact, after what has been written about the events in Novorossia, something else to explain to you additionally is not to respect yourself. Not further than today V.V. They reported to Putin about 500 thousand of such women hiding from conscription in Russia.

        What exactly are you accusing me of? What do I prefer for the shooting war to stop and not to go any further in Ukraine, the country of which I am a citizen and where I live? And my wish that she did not come to my city is this bad wish?
  9. aszzz888
    aszzz888 6 May 2015 09: 03
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    Fearless people in the Donbass!
    Not when the Ukronazists can not defeat the will of the people!
  10. Cossack1492
    Cossack1492 6 May 2015 09: 47
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    I wish New Russia good luck and prosperity !!! Now about the project "Ukraine": Despite the fact that Ukraine is completely artificial state. education, invented by Bismarck and Kaiser Wilhelm II, it has existed for 98 years in different variations. The cunning Kaiser planted a time bomb right under the side of Russia, sponsoring both the Bolsheviks (this has already been proven) and the "Nezalezhniks" - Grushevskys, Petliura, etc. That's Lenin thanked the sponsor by creating this crap with an artificial territory, an artificial language (really This is a dialect of the Kanev and Zolotonosha districts of the Cherkasy region, but they took it because T. Shevchenko was from there) and artificial culture (they generally stuffed whatever they got in the 1920s, but most of all, again, Cherkassky).
    1. brisk
      brisk 6 May 2015 11: 29
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      Quote: Cossack1492
      artificial language (in reality this is a dialect of the Kanevsky and Zolotonoshsky districts of the Cherkasy region, and they took it because T. Shevchenko came from there) and artificial culture

      Are you a linguist or culturologist by profession? If not, then with your rantings about the "artificial" Ukrainian language and "artificial" Ukrainian culture you will be doing the Russian world a disservice - to distance Ukraine from it. Do you really want this? We, Ukrainians in Ukraine, in their absolute majority do not consider the Ukrainian language artificial. And we consider it to be fully legitimate, as well as Russian, Bulgarian, Slovak, Tatar ... And Ukrainians in Ukraine, who think so, are not only those who speak Ukrainian in everyday life. But very many, most likely the majority, those who speak Russian in everyday life. The fact that many Ukrainians are irritated and are very dissatisfied with the infringement of the Russian language and the imposition of the Galician surzhik, instead of the classical Ukrainian language - "ushpitalili", "avivka", "mapa", "militsiyant", "letovishche" is a true truth. But this is fundamentally different from what you preach here. And here we are, the rejection of the Russian language and culture, trying to impose on us aliens from high Kiev chairs where they climbed with the help of money. But their successes are insignificant, cause only bitterness among citizens of Ukraine. I tell you this, as a citizen and resident of Ukraine, with my native Russian language, in its literary classic version. For whom the Ukrainian language is not at all alien, the native language of my mother and many of my other ancestors, the mother tongue for many residents of Ukraine. But for you, the Ukrainian language is alien and alien. Not least because you yourself are not from Ukraine. You do not understand Ukrainian Ukrainian at all, and in today's fashion you only scold and hait. Have you at least tried to read something from the works of Ukrainian literature? Shevchenko, whom many nowadays resemble you, find themselves shameless and attribute to him what he never wrote (about Khokhlov, Lyakha, Zh.da and soup). Have you tried reading at least in a Russian translation? Although Shevchenko is far from being impeccable as a poet and artist, and how a person allowed sin. But in general, the figure is positive and gifted. And other writers - Kotlyarevsky, Nechuy-Levitsky, Marco Vovchok, Karpenko-Kary, Ivan Franko, Gulak-Artemovsky, Ostap Vishnyu, Grigory Skovoroda, Pavel Grabovsky, Leonid Glebov, Lesya Kosach, Kvitka-Osnovyanenko, Panas Mirny - for them when- Have you heard or read anything? If you have not heard or read, then this does not mean that they are insignificant fake, not writers. And that Ukrainian literature, as well as language, does not exist. Do you know how during the Brezhnev-Khrushchev period of 1960-1970s it was spread? A semi-literate collective farmer speaks from the rostrum of a meeting of communists and non-party people, where they stigmatize the guilty writer and exclaims: "I myself have not read his novels, but in the most decisive way, as a writer, I condemn all his novels!" And you are exactly the same. Where are you from? Obviously, not from Ukraine. Your beliefs are clearly felt not from Ukraine, in Ukraine you still need to look for these, it will be long and hard ...
  11. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 6 May 2015 11: 54
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    Yeah. The political strategist's book is exactly what is now sorely lacking there. I hope the "Eurasians" at least took a box of medicines with them.
  12. Tribuns
    Tribuns 6 May 2015 12: 17
    +4
    Fascism in the Donbass will not work!
    The time will come and the cities of Slavyansk, Donetsk, Lugansk, Ilovaysk, Debaltseve ... will annually celebrate the official assignment of the title of hero cities to them for the selfless courage and heroism of the militia in battles with Bandera evil spirits ...
  13. Vladimir
    Vladimir 6 May 2015 14: 14
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    Quote: Travnik
    Donetsk and Lugansk do not feel like Ukrainians and they do not want to live in a foreign country, but wish a speedy return to their homeland.


    And whoever interferes with the return to their homeland, Mother Russia is a great place for everyone.
    1. Victor jnnjdfy
      Victor jnnjdfy 6 May 2015 21: 17
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      Why should the Don Cossack feel like a Ukrainian or leave for Russia? He lives on his own land, which was called before the Bolsheviks the Region of the Great Don Army ... The Bolsheviks of the Ukrainian SSR created and stuffed a piece of this territory into this formation. Learn the material part (History).
  14. Vladimir1960
    Vladimir1960 6 May 2015 14: 19
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    "Unlike, for example, from Russia, where you live. There, the Ukrainian dialect-surzhik does not even smell close. This is the difference between us." .. (svelto)
    Yah?! Stop in Kuban, every second in Ukrainian speaks.
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  16. Vladimir1960
    Vladimir1960 6 May 2015 14: 26
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    ". If all 100% want to leave, then you are welcome. And if there are those who want to return to Ukraine, this will also be their full right. Did I say something wrong?" .. (svelto).

    It seems to me that there have already been referenda and not one at which the people expressed their opinion.
  17. Sendi7s
    Sendi7s 6 May 2015 15: 56
    +1
    "Ukraine is a falling state, which we just have to push, because it is more and more actively flying into the abyss. With the last of its strength it mobilizes information resources, with its last strength it tries to attract people throughout Ukraine to its side, driving them into the armed troops. But their collapse is becoming more and more obvious, "- said in his speech at the event the head of the Eurasian Youth Union Andrei Kovalenko." (C)

    It just doesn't fit in my head. Such people, calling to push the fallen one further into the abyss, and not to lend a helping hand, should not be allowed into the DPR and LPR for a cannon shot. I understand if it was about the collapse of the "Kiev junta project." But going with agitation in such a plan - the collapse of Ukraine - have they collapsed from an oak tree? Then they are surprised that Russia is being accused of all mortal sins. After organizing such agitation trips - no wonder. That's completely unexpected ... How to understand this?
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 6 May 2015 16: 10
      +1
      It is necessary to "end" this suspended situation in the air. And to form New Russia from the eastern and some central regions of the former Ukraine, because it is clear that the western (in which the UPA is very strong) will never be with us.
      And the militia of Donetsk and Lugansk also think so smile
      1. padded jacket
        padded jacket 6 May 2015 16: 15
        +1
        Rehearsal of the Victory Parade on May 9 in Donetsk:
      2. Tribuns
        Tribuns 6 May 2015 20: 53
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        "... it is quite clear that the western (in which the UPA is very strong) will never be with us ..."

        Here is u.o.dy ... And who needs them in Europe? There, even all non-prestigious works are filled with Bulgarians, Balts and other "former from the socialist camp" ...
      3. Sendi7s
        Sendi7s 8 May 2015 22: 26
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        For a padded jacket (5) RU May 6, 2015 16:10

        Still, separately from Ukraine? Already and federalization will not work? But how can we explain the fact that on May 6 in Minsk the meeting of the working subgroups was constructive, and the foundation for future negotiations was laid, between the DPR-LPR and Kiev? Representatives of the republics seemed to be also pleased with the result of this meeting. And they hope very much for a political settlement of the conflict.

        "And the militias of Donetsk and Lugansk think so too" (C). Yes, that's who you can't argue with - it's with the DPR-LPR militias, they are in the thick of all events, on the front line. And the people of the republics also think so? Or is it necessary to organize such agitation trips? This is completely incomprehensible to me, especially in this interpretation: to push the whole country into the abyss, and not the Kiev junta, which came to power as a result of a bloody coup.
        And the people of the DNR-LNR, in my opinion, absolutely did not need to agitate, they personally saw what the Kiev junta was doing.
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  19. Russian Patriot
    Russian Patriot 6 May 2015 19: 45
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    It’s good that the chestnuts in Donetsk are blooming. But the main thing is that the city does not go. ..
  20. Commissar of the NKVD
    Commissar of the NKVD 6 May 2015 22: 11
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    It is painful to see the fresh spring greenery flooding the city, and the scary empty eye sockets of charred windows and skeletons of buildings peering through it ... crying The feeling of something unreal, that which should not be.
  21. Mongol
    Mongol 6 May 2015 22: 16
    +2
    Quote: quilted jacket
    Rehearsal of the Victory Parade on May 9 in Donetsk:

    28 years ago, on May 9, I walked in a solemn march along this street of Artem ... God, when it was ... Thanks to these guys that now they are not Bandera-minded women. Glory to you, honor and respect. Misha Tolstoy, a simple Donbass guy and his fellow soldiers who covered the unfading glory of the Donbass land. Unlike Cossacks, Kharkiv citizens and other nikolayevets. I am proud of the title of Donetsk cadet!
  22. Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack 6 May 2015 23: 41
    +2
    CITY lives ............ People live there - Real People!