Polish authorities Penenzhno turned to Warsaw with a proposal to dismantle the monument to General Chernyakhovsky

The authorities of the Polish town Penenzhno appealed to the higher authorities with the initiative to dismantle the monument to the Soviet General Chernyakhovsky. The monument was erected in this locality a few decades ago. The monument, erected in honor of General Chernyakhovsky in Penenzhno, was repeatedly attacked by vandals who doused him with paint and wrote texts in which the general appeared to be "the executioner of Polish soldiers."

The initiative of the burgomaster of the mentioned Polish city is as follows: the monument must be dismantled and either moved to a military cemetery or sent to Russia. "Russian newspaper" announces that the Polish authorities will take a decision on the initiative presented by the leadership of Penenzno within two months.

The monument to Ivan Chernyakhovsky stands approximately at the place where General 18 of February 1945 of the year received a mortal shrapnel wound (previously - the city of Melzac, East Prussia). It turns out that the authorities of Penenzhno, who once bore a Prussian name, were eventually joined to Poland not without the help of the actions of the commander-in-chief of the army general Chernyakhovsky and his subordinate fighters. But will the Polish authorities not intend to dismantle Penenzhno himself, renaming him back to Melzak and handing over to Germany?

For reference: previously one of the monuments to General Chernyakhovsky had already been taken to Russia - to Voronezh. We are talking about a monument dismantled in Vilnius.

So, maybe it’s time to raise the issue of dismantling the Katyn memorial, or it’s still not worthwhile to be like the Polish obscurants from Peningno ...

Comments

[Russian Uzbek]

Poland follows the path of Ukraine ... in principle, nothing surprising!

[subbtin.725]

Europeans who were Europeans always envied the greatness of vast Russia. There is nothing to say about dwarf Baltic states. Yapping from under the gateway and doing dirty tricks is the lot of flawed ones, which we observe.

[Giant thought]

The Ukrainian warfare virus against the Soviet commanders reached Poland, Forgot the Poles that they would walk in German slaves, if not for the Soviet troops.

[science fiction writer]

And Chernyakhovsky, after all, was a Pole by nationality, they seemed to be proud of, and they arranged a repression of the monument, and who they are after that, WASHED DOGS.

[vladimir_krm]

Hehe ... Chernyakhovsky, Rokossovsky, Malinovsky, Vasilevsky, Tukhachevsky ... finally, the founder of the Cheka-NKVD-KGB-FSB Dzerzhinsky, as well as the poet of the revolution Mayakovsky ... Maybe it's time for the Poles to show the bill for anything? :)

[supertiger21]

On the one hand, you understand that Hitler and the Nazis are evil, and that we did the right thing by clearing eastern Europe of them. But on the other hand, you think how dare the other Poland, the Baltic states and so on dare to squeak after that. It looks like we had to leave the German troops until end dubbing the Polish land and people, the loss of 6 million people somehow did not bring them reason.

[Alekseev]

Quote: vladimir_krm

Hehe ... Chernyakhovsky, Rokossovsky, Malinovsky, Vasilevsky, Tukhachevsky ... finally, the founder of the ChK-NKVD-KGB-FSB Dzerzhinsky

Well, do not simplify ... except for Dzerzhinsky and Rokossovsky the rest are the same Poles as I am the Pope

[Pancho]

Quote: vladimir_krm

Rokossovsky, Malinovsky, Vasilevsky

It seems to me that you got excited by attributing these people to the Poles. Rokossovsky's mother is Russian, doesn't it mean anything to you? Mayakovsky's too, I don't know about his father. My surname ends in "sky", but my father is from the peasants of the Tambov province , the purest Russian and with such a surname there are many people there.

[Nrsimha42]

In principle, he is right. Surnames ending in "... si" are of Pshek's origin. Ending in "... s and ... ev" are Great Russian. Ending in "... ko" - Little Russian. And ending with "... uk and ... yuk" - Galician and Carpathian (Rusyn).

[Pancho]

Quote: Nrsimha42

Surnames ending in "... si" origin of Pshek

Come on! Pozharsky, Vorotynsky and others and so on, too lazy to list all the Poles? Then we will have no one left at all. "Skiy" is a type of adjective that defines belonging to a locality or to someone. I repeat, for example, my father is a Pole well can not relate in any way, pah-pah!

[Nrsimha42]

And also - Menzhinsky, who replaced Felix Edmundovich at his post ...

[alvog]

The monument, erected in honor of General Chernyakhovsky in Penenzno, was repeatedly attacked by vandals who doused him with paint and wrote in texts in which the general appeared to be “the executioner of Polish soldiers”.

And at the same time, the Poles are demanding for the construction of the complex at the crash site near Smolensk of a huge plot of land, and stubbornly do not admit their guilt in what happened. Is it possible to expect more decent behavior from them, I think that they can’t otherwise

[zulusuluz]

The roots may be Polish, but by nationality he is Ukrainian. Born in with. Uman, Cherkasy region

[not Russian]

Feels my heart is good this will not end.

[Mareman Vasilich]

It will not end. History is not subjunctive. They spit on the man under whose command the Soviet troops gave life to the vile and ungrateful Poles. At the cost of his life. All this will return to them, their regret will come faster than they think.

[asar]

And our fighters for them, damn it, laid their heads! Ehhh, psheki, you creatures are ungrateful!

[FIREMAN]

And our fighters for them, damn it, laid their heads! Ehhh, psheki, you creatures are ungrateful!

As they used to say about them with a grin: "The Polish army took Berlin, but the Soviet helped!"

[pvv113]

It was the Poles themselves who composed such a song to themselves. Heroes, damn it

[olegahl]

Trotsky also said that Poles were political prostitutes.

[Igor Golov]

Good did not end. Demolished. Abused the grave.
What to expect from scum?
http://topwar.ru/71011-vystrel-v-spinu.html

[Imperialkolorad]

Quote: Russian Uzbek

Poland follows the path of Ukraine ... in principle, nothing surprising!

They started this way much earlier.

[GRAMARI111]

well ... and it was once different

[Inok10]

Quote: Russian Uzbek

Poland follows the path of Ukraine ... in principle, nothing surprising!

.. Poles the whole history were idiots divided, cut 5 times:
- The first partition of Poland (1772) - between Russia, Prussia and Austria, so ended their Commonwealth
- The second partition of Poland (1792) - between Russia and Prussia, Poland halved
- The third partition of Poland (1795) - participants are all the same Russia, Austria and Prussia and the complete liquidation of Poland as a state.
- Fourth partition of Poland (1815) - After the fall of the Napoleonic Empire at the Vienna Congress of 1814-1815, redistribution of Poland was carried out.
- The fifth section of Poland (1939) - Germany and the USSR.
... I feel it’s necessary to bring the children back to life for the sixth time .. by denouncing the border agreement of August 16, 1945 .. part of East Prussia and the Bialystok Territory clearly interfere with them ..

[siberalt]

Poland follows the path of the State Department, as does Ukraine. Without Russia, Europe will not get rid of colonial dependence. Hence the propaganda about "Russia is the aggressor".

[Starover_Z]

The Germans during the years of war and occupation knew who to destroy ...
But our grandfathers were too kind, to see many fascist henchmen amnestied ...
Now there are more of their descendants than the descendants of the Polish underground and they are reviving the 3 Reich.
And the Germans can be reminded that it was their town and the Poles did not rightfully own it!

[bannik]

In the West, the Poles also got a lot of things from German territory.

[starshina78]

I - FOR "Transferring the Katyn memorial to Poland! Let them admire their memorial. Otherwise they have become painfully new!"

[jktu66]

And here it is worth assimilating, dismantling and sending to Poland a monument to Polish Russophobia

[Russian Uzbek]

Yes Yes! all kinds of Kosciuszko and others ... and finally begin to tell the truth hidden during the Soviet era about the true face and atrocities of East Europeans during WWII, which was hushed up for "political" reasons

[jktu66]

and concentration camps for tens of thousands of Red Army prisoners who were tortured in the 1920s by the Pilsud regime must be remembered daily by Polish partners. By the way, why are still no monuments to our unfortunate compatriots in Przekia?

[Yu-81]

Quote: Russian Uzbek

Yes Yes! all kinds of Kosciuszko and others ... and finally begin to tell the truth hidden during the Soviet era about the true face and atrocities of East Europeans during WWII, which was hushed up for "political" reasons

Who are you going to talk to? Now they don’t see the genocide of Donbass at point blank range, and you want to present cases to them more than half a century ago ...
It just so turns out that nobody but us needs our truth ..

[Russian Uzbek]

besides US and THERE there is also the rest of the world

[Igor Golov]

The rest of the world, to put it mildly, do not give a shit.

[Alec_s]

You can simply put a monument to the general there ... That would be remembered every time, forcibly!

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: jktu66

And here it is worth assimilating, dismantling and sending to Poland a monument to Polish Russophobia

Katyn - to Poland! Excavators to the platforms - and to Warsaw! Yes, and revise the borders. Let in fairness - so in fairness. Drive the Psheks to where they were in 1940, and let them kick. They forgot that Hitler destroyed the 6 000 000 Poles? If we have a huge part of the dead (more than that) - the civilian population, then in Pshek almost all of the dead are civilians, because we don’t have to seriously talk about any Polish operet army of the late 30's - 40's. And they refuse to remember who covered them? Who saved Krakow? Who liberated Auschwitz (oh yes! The 1th Ukrainian Front is the Ukrainians, as we were recently told ...)? To Germany, them, pshek, back! And then the UPA will arrive in time, remind them who the liberator is. Remember scum, and Chernyakhovsky, and 1-th Ukrainian front.

And I don’t even know who will cover them the next time?

[Yu-81]

Quote: Zoldat_A

And I don’t even know who will cover them the next time?

And besides us, as usual, there is nobody ...

[Teberii]

Liberators are not needed. With the new story that they write in the West they do not fit together.

[EngineerP]

Do not pay attention to "Silly", but carefully write everything down, when the time comes, we will remember everything and return everything!
"Nobody is forgotten, nothing is forgotten!"

[rotmistr4]

Exactly! The Russian people are generous and patient, but when patience ends .....

[rotmistr4]

Exactly! The Russian people are generous and patient, but when patience ends .....

[Barakuda]

By the way. Tell me on what plane is the president of Poland and the government flying? Just curious...

[pensioner]

Quote: Barracuda

Tell me on what plane is the president of Poland and the government flying? Just curious...

Boeing But they are falling too. Our Ukrainian friends are in the know ...

[Barakuda]

Well, if Boeing, then there is air conditioning on board for any

[pensioner]

Quote: Barracuda

Well, if Boeing, then there is air conditioning on board for any

Fact. Waiting, sir ...

[science fiction writer]

Quote: retired

Quote: Barracuda

Well, if Boeing, then there is air conditioning on board for any

Fact. Waiting, sir ...

Yes, there’s enough of a bottle of beer, our own Minister of Defense and the stewardess.

[asar]

Good day, Yuri!
Well, what's the point, a "scumbag" will come at all! Let it fly, x ... at him!
However, with the question of "removing" the "Boeing" - turn to dill, they are Great masters in the destruction of civilian aircraft - Tu, Boeing!

[veksha50]

Quote: Barracuda

By the way. Tell me on what plane is the president of Poland and the government flying? Just curious...

What, is homework already available? Schaaas wanting not only the type of aircraft, but also the schedule, routes, echelons of altitude in theory will present ...

PS It’s a pity that he doesn’t fly over my town ... I would already start training from a slingshot today ...

[Barakuda]

And what is the name of the slingshot - "Arrow", "Needle"? Only two pieces of bearing are needed at intervals of 5 seconds. And not in "dogon", closer to the place of entry and landing. But there the bitch is difficult, they will rake in.

[veksha50]

Quote: Barracuda

Only two pieces of bearing are needed at intervals of 5 seconds.

I have a neighbor - a craftsman and a pros, we’ll figure it out together ... Just to fly, a dog ...

[Thunderbolt]

Let the Penezhnyans then erect a monument to the Nazi general who occupied them in the 39th, since they do not like the liberator. I’m worried about our Russian graves on Polish soil. They are not guilty of anything, but they may end up dead. And they should sleep peacefully

[onizhe]

Our monuments must return to their homeland. These ki do not want to remember who released them, it is not necessary, but one cannot tolerate the abuse of ungrateful dogs biting the hand of the giver.

[jktu66]

Let the Penezhnyans then erect a monument to the Nazi general who occupied them in the 39th,

And they’ll deliver it with a joyful screech, they’ll just rewrite history a little

[bannik]

Well, they themselves, it seems, are not local, in the 39th there was East Prussia.
As the saying goes: "Come in large numbers here!"

[pensioner]

All Katyn Memorial to return to Poland. Together with bullets. Only then they will calm down ...

[Simon]

No, let them lie still, we are not blasphemous, otherwise the Poles will make them saints and pray for them, along with the dead drunk, the government and the president.

[pensioner]

Quote: Simon

No, let them lie still, we are not blasphemous, otherwise the Poles will make them saints and will pray to them

Good. Only bullets.

[jktu66]

No, let them lie still, we are not blasphemous, otherwise the Poles will make them saints and pray for them, along with the dead drunk, the government and the president.

What is wrong now ???

[bocsman]

Another deflection in front of the butchers. They are waiting for cookies or an approving pat on the ass. But whoever spits into the past does not need the future! It was not for nothing that the Germans wrote on the doors of their drinking establishments "No entry for Poles and dogs." Wait, again, butchers are no better!

[rotmistr60]

So, maybe it’s time to raise the issue of dismantling the Katyn memorial, or it’s still not worthwhile to be like the Polish obscurants from Peningno ...

Of course it’s not worth likening yourself. But it would even be symbolic to send this memorial to Poland, and at the same time a monument near Smolensk in the region of the fall of the Polish plane. Already, the former twin president did not bring anything good to our country except for the escalation of Russophobia.

[lewerlin53rus]

Quote: rotmistr60

Of course you should not be like

not to be like, but to take symmetrical steps. as with the expulsion of diplomats. Moreover, in the case of the so-called "Katyn tragedy" not everything is so simple. And our authorities were most likely forced to admit everything just for the sake of normalizing relations with Poland. but it is useless by definition. Poles are enemies of Russians at the genetic level. And normal allied relations with him are rather an exception. This has already been confirmed by centuries of history.

[veksha50]

Quote: lewerlin53rus

Moreover, in the case of the so-called "Katyn tragedy" not everything is so simple. And our authorities were most likely forced to admit everything just for the sake of normalizing relations with Poland.

That's it, I completely agree ...

PS The Poles understood the step of our leadership as weakness ... But in vain ...

[Igor Golov]

Do not give space to the memory stella near the crash site - and that’s it.

[ovod84]

do not pay attention, the most important thing is to celebrate with us magnificent, all media, including our foreign ones, should show films on the basis of documents how we liberated Europe, especially pay attention to battles and numbers on both sides.

[Valkh]

Quote: rotmistr60

So, maybe it’s time to raise the issue of dismantling the Katyn memorial, or it’s still not worthwhile to be like the Polish obscurants from Peningno ...

Of course it’s not worth likening yourself. But it would even be symbolic to send this memorial to Poland, and at the same time a monument near Smolensk in the region of the fall of the Polish plane. Already, the former twin president did not bring anything good to our country except for the escalation of Russophobia.

I fully support and agree with you !!!! It's time !!!

[captain]

The national policy of the CPSU is to blame. It was built on the assertion that Russia is a prison of peoples. Accordingly, it turned out that the Russians were to blame for everything. Poland, Bulgaria, Romania, Ukraine, Georgia, the Baltic states, Moldova ....., showed the destructiveness of this policy and bloody results. Plus, they raised the living standards of the outskirts, due to the living standards in Russia, built industry, trained scientific personnel, and indigenous people.

[veksha50]

Quote: captain

The national policy of the CPSU is to blame. It was built on the assertion that Russia is a prison of peoples. Accordingly, it turned out that the Russians were to blame for everything. Poland, Bulgaria, Romania, Ukraine, Georgia, the Baltic states, Moldova ....., showed the destructiveness of this policy and bloody results.

captain, this is not about the destructive national policy of the CPSU, but about disrespect for certain nationalities to people who shed blood for the liberation of their territory from the Nazis ... Poles forgot how much they suffered from the Germans and from the Ukrainians-OUN ...
And in the Warsaw bloc they were not the poorest, they lived well, much better than the Bulgarians, and even more so the Romanians ...
PS And now they are offended that we do not want to eat their apples ...

[captain]

veksha50, we are talking here about the education of Russophobia, and it was very much promoted by ideas about the prison of peoples. This sprouted. There is a lot of writing about Poles who fought against us, but no one writes that the Jews fought against the USSR. Https: //ru.wikipedia.org ›... Prisoners of war in the USSR ...

[veksha50]

Quote: captain

veksha50, we are talking here about the education of Russophobia, and it was very much promoted by ideas about the prison of peoples. It sprouted

The captain, without defending the CPSU, I can only say that the Russophobia of the Poles (and it is specifically about them in the article) dates back not from the time of the Warsaw Pact, but oh-oh-oh what time ... Almost from the birth of European states ...

And where does the Poles who fought AGAINST us (as far as I know, the army of Craiova and Ludov was for us) when they were enough and fighting not for us, but against fascism?

[b.t.a.]

Quote: retired

senior citizen (8) Today, 08:50 New
All Katyn Memorial to return to Poland. Together with bullets. Only then they will calm down ...

Well no. Russia does not fight monuments. It's a shame to see how they rewrite history in Europe. Why be like them? We are a great state and we have a history, but they have a history created on state grants and as a state they no longer exist or will not be soon. There are some small US colonies that are glad to sell their history for a couple of extra, unsecured pieces of paper.

[Hyppopotut]

Over thirty, not even silver pieces, but candy wrappers ... Ugh, what an abomination!

[X Y Z]

It is necessary to educate, educate. Our game of intelligence, in "we do not act like that" just gives rise to even greater impudence and hypocrisy. We are simply destroying people. They do not understand us and think. that we do this out of a sense of our own guilt. To begin with, we need to promise to restrict access to the Smolensk and Katyn memorial places for Poles, to stop discussing the very possibility of installing a monument in the place where the "carcass" fell. This will greatly undermine the Polish arrogance and return something human to the Poles. If this does not work, then more stringent measures can be taken to discipline and return to human form. The thesis "you can't fix anyone with punishments", which was being intensively introduced in Russia in 90-2000 by the liberals, has long proved its viciousness and far-fetchedness.

[azbukin77]

I tell you what I saw with my own eyes: they constantly fill the monument with paint, write various obscenities, put a monument in the form of a big red pig next to it, demand to demolish the monument and rave about all Russian in impotent rage !!! Conclusion, the Poles, this is the smallest, most ignoble, envious, lazy nation of merchants - Christ sellers who dance under the guise of a dirty black ... sing monkeys !!!

[v.yegorov]

But are the Polish authorities not going to dismantle Penenzhno with renaming it back to Melzac and transferring Germany to this?

One word, the kurvs are slanderous, if in Polish, there are no other words for them!

[Jurkovs]

As there was a Polish governor general, it remained to them.

[Bakht]

The last phrase is ABSOLUTELY true. Be sure to dismantle the Katyn monument. And do not put the question at the end of the sentence. And in Ukraine, it is necessary to dismantle the Dnieper, as a monument of the Soviet period. The mess. Monuments of the Soviet period are demolished, and the Dnieper left.

[science fiction writer]

And in Ukraine, it is necessary to dismantle the Dnieper, as a monument of the Soviet period

And in Kiev the metro is filled with concrete, also a monument to the soviets, there’s nothing to use with Soviet attributes, since such a law was adopted.

[TOR2]

Quote: fiction

And in Ukraine, it is necessary to dismantle the Dnieper, as a monument of the Soviet period

Wait a minute, they will blow it up themselves.

[Leader]

Science is for us! Here they are, the "grateful liberated"!
Russia should officially take away (redeem, exchange for tourists, etc.) all its monuments to those who died for the liberation of all filth in Europe and place these monuments on the "Alley of Ingratitude".
And each time, when it wants to do a good deed to some people, it is necessary to look at this Alley and think - is it necessary?
And it started with the Baltic States ... No, to immediately strangle this initiative in the bud with this Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania!
I promise that my grandchildren will be brought up on duty!

[Bakht]

The Polish have forgotten history. Or they never wanted to know her. The most vile "allies". In the Battle of Kursk, two German divisions were 75% manned by Poles. And in the summer of 42, when every bayonet was counted, when the Germans were rushing to Stalingrad and order 227 "Not a step back" was issued. two Polish divisions Escaped to Iran. Stalin then said, "Damn you. We will win Poland back from the Germans without you and hand it over to the Poles." The Leader was great, but then he made a mistake. It was necessary to bring this bitch tribe to the same denominator. And not to give the lives of Soviet people for these bastards.

[Bakht]

During the war, more than 60 Poles were captured. They fought on the side of Hitler. Of course, Chernyakhovsky is an enemy to them.

[captain]

During the war, over 10tys were also captured. Jews, what to do with them now? By the way, Poroshenko (Valtsman), Yatsenyuk (Bokai), Klitschko, Grosmann, all these Ukrainian politicians are Jews, what will we do with the Jews? After all, twice the hero of the Soviet Union Dragusky, Smushkevich is the same Jews. https://ru.wikipedia.org ›... Prisoners of war_in_SSSR_vo ...

[KBR109]

They should not be captured by us. There is no need to repeat the story with Savchenko. If you are lucky enough to meet someone, then dig in the quiet in a ravine (forest) without a trace. There is no need to produce new heroes and martyrs.

[Bakht]

The question in this case concerned the Poles. I must say that the Jews served in the Wehrmacht. And they were even awarded with Iron Crosses. And on the famous poster "the blond beast" was drawn from a Jew.

You just have to sometimes remind the Poles (and all other Danes, Norwegians and French) of the truth. By the way, the Russians fought on the side of the Germans. But the Poles have long infuriated me. Others are at least silent.

[Mountain shooter]

Or is it time to place the T-90 on pedestals in Europe? And then something among the Geyropei’s memory is weakened. To refresh?

[onizhe]

Do not do good - you will not receive evil. I will not say that this applies to all cases, but with respect to the evil and envious Poles - just right. We would have to liberate Poland anyway, otherwise you won’t get to Berlin, but the results of the war are discouraging. The USSR, having endured the main burdens of the war, received a small part of East Prussia. But Poland received the rest of East Prussia and German lands on its western border. Lost Vilna, but now Vilnius, the capital of proud potato growers. However, this loss was generously compensated. France, just as shamefully losing the war, was generally recorded as a winner, along with the USSR. And what is their gratitude? In hate.

[Bakht]

The war of 1941 has some common features with the war of 1812.

It is clear that the blood spilled on the fronts required revenge. But just as in 1812 Kutuzov asked not to finish Napoleon, so in the 44th it was necessary not to finish Hitler. It is hard to accept in heart, but practice has shown that after 75 years, Russia has a united Europe against itself. But in much worse geopolitical conditions. Judging by the documents, Stalin considered this option. But I could not step over the logic of events.

As for the Poles, there are no words - only letters are found. And they need to write on the fence. You read the memoirs of adjutant Anders and you wonder. In December 41, Anders officers went to the Germans for negotiations. Across the front line. This muddy story is not covered in the Soviet press. But the Soviet command was aware of this and even facilitated the transition across the front line. But then Anders shot his own messengers. We need to revise the book. I don’t remember the details right now.

[alex3528321]

If it does not complicate the title of the author of the book

[fomkin]

Interestingly, once again the Pshek with their chief officer are not going to fly to Smolensk.

They are already waiting for:

[Bakht]

Here is the book itself, Jerzy Klimkowski "I was General Anders's adjutant"

Mr. Kozlovsky worked for a week as a lieutenant in the financial department of the army, after a series of meetings and meetings that were held at that time, he received an order to leave for Moscow, as if to the embassy, ​​although at that time it was not in Moscow, but in Kuibyshev. In reality, he had to cross the front line, which under the conditions of the German offensive was an easy task. At that time, the front moved quickly and reached almost Moscow itself. It was the end of October 1941. Just at that time, Kozlovsky, in company with two officers, crossed the front line and at the end of November was in Warsaw and introduced himself in Berlin that same month.
The news of this fact scattered across the headquarters with lightning speed. The Germans did not fail to report him on the radio and in the press. At the headquarters in Buzuluk, a wide variety of rumors and gossip began to spread. In a whisper it was said that Anders participated in sending Leon Kozlovsky for negotiations with Hitler.
However, Moscow did not fall. The Germans were stopped. The front stopped, and the time of Sikorsky's arrival for negotiations with Stalin was inevitably approaching. Anders was gripped by wild fear. In order to distract from himself any suspicions, he ordered an investigation into the case of Leon Kozlovsky: how he left Buzuluk to Moscow, how and when he crossed the front line. The investigation was conducted by the second department of the army headquarters, headed by Lieutenant Colonel Gelgood, known for his Germanophilic views. It is clear that the investigation was conducted in such a way as not to give a significant result. Nevertheless, it was established that Leon Kozlovsky appeared in Buzuluk at the personal invitation of Anders and a few days before his departure visited Tokarzhevsky in Totsky, picking up another officer as his fellow traveler. But most importantly, it was established that Leon Kozlovsky went to Moscow [132] on behalf of Anders, who personally signed him a business trip certificate.
It was necessary to be saved. Anders established a court and, in order to decisively dissociate himself from all this, ordered to judge Leon Kozlovsky for high treason, switching to the side of the enemy. He demanded the death penalty. An obedient court, without delving into the merits of the case, executed the order. Leon Kozlovsky was declared a traitor and deserter and sentenced to death. Anders approved the verdict, although he did not have the right to do so, since only the supreme commander-in-chief Sikorsky could confirm the death sentences for officers. Anders, however, was afraid that Sikorsky might order a re-investigation and consideration of the case in court, so he preferred to put everyone before a fait accompli.
The sentence, in principle, was only theoretical, since its execution in respect of a person who was in Berlin under the tutelage of the German authorities was impossible. I will add to this that after several months, during one of the raids on Berlin, Leon Kozlovsky was wounded and died in a German hospital after two to three weeks.

http://militera.lib.ru/memo/other/klimkovsky_e/index.html

[1536]

In my opinion, it is time to break off diplomatic relations with the Polish state and to expel Poles of all stripes and from all volosts from Russia!

[pensioner]

Quote: azbukin77

who dance under the do-doo dirty black-skinned ... sing monkeys !!!

Actually, the epithet to the word "monkey" should be written with a capital letter. President, after all ...

[cergey51046]

For hostile relations of Poland to Russia, 100% sanction must be applied, those are the complete breakdown of all relations.

[PValery53]

Of course, if the Poles desecrate the monuments to our Heroes in Poland, then the monuments must be transferred to Russia. But. Stop all economic and other cooperation with Poland on raw materials and energy resources. We absolutely do not need such companions. And the time will come (already soon), and they will answer with their interest for their meanness and historical errors.

[KBR109]

Quote: fiction

And Chernyakhovsky, after all, was a Pole by nationality, they seemed to be proud of, and they arranged a repression of the monument, and who they are after that, WASHED DOGS.

You are deeply mistaken. Ukrainian. The Academy of National Defense (formerly KVOKU) in Kiev was even named after him. Originally from the Kiev province (now Cherkasy region), the forum member VOZHIK expressed a very interesting idea, and I think it. Create an ALLEY OF GRATEFULNESS and place the restored and exported monuments there ... well, you understand which ones. And to offer some delegations even lay flowers there. Ivan Danilovich is the brightest head. The youngest commander and comm.front. By the time of his death, the question of assigning him the title of Marshal was considered. Everlasting memory !

[altman]

Really scum! Who better than the Poles to remember the horrors of war ... Those who forget history will be forced to relive its horrors again

[stix99]

"So, maybe it's time to raise the issue of dismantling the Katyn memorial, or still you shouldn't be like the Polish obscurantists from Penenzhno ..." NO ...

[Net]

Everything is natural and right. At first the iPhone Katyn apologized to the psheks, now having given them a finger they will devour the hand. And what to be indignant at the monuments of Lenin, if the government itself every May 9, bashfully hides the mausoleum behind a cardboard. While we will apologize for our story, each mongrel will strive to bite us.

[antiaircrafter]

1. Monument to pick up in Russia.
2. Introduce an article in the Russian Constitution prohibiting military aid to Poland (and to others who are not happy with the "Russian occupation").
3. Support the Germans if they want to return the lands occupied by Poland.

[bannik]

It’s not worth supporting the Germans, otherwise they’ll completely become impudent, but you don’t have to object, let them understand.
And we will see.

[cergey51046]

If God wants to punish, he deprives memory and reason.

[Pomah]

psheki - arrogant chmyry

[Deniz]

Yes, let them demolish. But the memorial in Katyn is razed to the ground.

[TOR2]

Monument from the word memory.
And as you know, there are no monuments in the pigsty, because the inhabitants have too short a memory.

[ZORKA76]

Let the children of our good neighbor get ALL THAT their fathers ask for and what their grandfathers survived !!!!

[Shishiga]

The initiative of the burgomaster of the mentioned Polish city is as follows: the monument must be dismantled and either moved to a military cemetery or sent to Russia.

Well, we need to make an "equivalent" exchange: we have a monument to Chernyakhovsky - a monument to them from Katyn with all the bones. And let the psheki shriek afterwards.

[sounddoc]

Quote: GRAMARI111

well ... and it was once different

I watched your video ... could not stand it. Added my own ...

[6 inches]

I propose to turn to Moscow with a proposal to dismantle the authorities of the Polish Penenzhno ...

[Tribuns]

How humiliating and vile the Poles want to like the Washington host with their Russophobia ...

The Poles, along with the Balts from the former Soviet republics headed by Grybauskaite, of all the US allies in Europe are most aggressive and spiteful towards Russia, expressing Russophobic fabrications and hints at it, for which they once invited their rival "to the barrier!"

PS "Let the wives shout at night,
And spilled blood does not count, -
Men's possessions were
Men's courage and honor.
The face lurks under the guise
But the pistol’s eye is lead.
Men, men, men
The scoundrels were led to the barrier "

[alex3528321]

For me personally, there are a lot of misunderstandings with this Katyn. So it’s worth dismantling it. God doesn’t see everything. It’s not for nothing that, by his will, the entire Polish kagal fell into the ground near Smolensk

[toad]

Neto something going on, Europe began to perceive politeness as a weakness.

[kind]

Mayor of the mentioned Polish city

Burgomaster The word is not Polish. German Forever remembered. Conclusion: Whoever is stronger than them (Poles) beats is afraid and remembered.

So, maybe it’s time to raise the issue of dismantling the Katyn memorial, or it’s still not worthwhile to be like the Polish obscurants from Peningno ...

Definitely not worth it!

[Bakht]

Quote: alex3528321

If it does not complicate the title of the author of the book

If the question is about Anders, see below. Jerzy Klimkowski "I was General Anders' adjutant". The link to the militer is also given.

[Alfons xv]

They made me laugh. They laughed to tears. Who are your complaints to? In 1990, the USSR surrendered its gained position in the Center of Europe, and not only there, but throughout the world surrendered its position. Where were you patriots then? Then you sat quietly peacefully. After a shameful surrender you left. You lost your position without a single shot. The USSR gave everything for empty promises. But there are no empty spaces. A new owner has appeared in your still warm place. The great leader, the father of the peoples of Comrade In one of his conversations, Stalin told the Polish general Burling, “There was no, no, and there will be no sentiment in politics.” And Stalin was right. And you forgot about it.

[Bakht]

Well, you still laugh. They say Brzezinski is not a stupid person. The enemy, of course, but not stupid. When the USSR was leaving East Germany, he said "how would we not have to bomb Berlin together again in 20 years."

Poland has bigger eyes than a stomach. It always has been and will be so. In 1939, Poland had territorial claims against all (ALL) neighbors without exception. The conversation is about simple gratitude. This is not a policy field. But then she goes sideways to some countries. France, for example in 1871. Or Poland in 1939.

We have not forgotten anything. And so in the 90s when the USSR left Europe, there were portraits of Stalin at all angles. And now there is. The Russian Empire and the USSR had periods of retreat and retreat. Who was feeling bad at this time? Europe in general and Poland in particular.

Germany in the 70s officially signed documents on the waiver of rights to the Kaliningrad region. But she never signed such documents for Silesia. If you fly to Germany, then look at the airport flight board. There are no Polish city names. There are only old German ones. I was so surprised that I even took a photo.

The Russian proverb was slightly altered. Now it sounds like "the one who laughs at the last laughs well". And the idea is sound. To hold a referendum and I am sure that the Katyn Memorial will not only be transported to Poland, but simply blown up like an enemy. And it will be ABSOLUTELY correct.

[Imandra]

Yes it is. Small countries will never be independent. One owner leaves, then another will come. What was Gorbachev thinking when he dissolved the Warsaw Pact? What a wild mixture of naivety and idiocy. Moreover, many people who felt sympathy for us perceived our departure precisely as a betrayal. We abandoned our allies, and right there the new owner took them over.

[Bakht]

This is the official website of the Lufthansa company. Laugh, the Poles. It's really funny

http://travelguide.lufthansa.com/at/de/danzig/gdn/

[Bakht]

And this is about Silesia. So what is the name of the capital of Silesia? Wroclaw or Breslau?

http://travelguide.lufthansa.com/at/de/breslau/wro/

[rocker_39]

Quote: Mareman Vasilich

It will not end. History is not subjunctive. They spit on the man under whose command the Soviet troops gave life to the vile and ungrateful Poles. At the cost of his life. All this will return to them, their regret will come faster than they think.

Unfortunately, not all Poles think so, but only scum who sold out with all their crap to 3,14ndostan. Therefore, there is no point in returning to all the people. All you have to do is hang these monsters on lamp posts and they will hang for a week and rot. So that others don't like it.

[iouris]

The best option is to transfer the monument to Russia along with the city.

[Alfons xv]

I tried to respond to my colleague KBR 109 to his personal message to me, but I was unable to do so. I will answer here for KBR 109. Dear colleague! Poland has a government that is engaged in conducting foreign and domestic policies. The government of our state is responsible for the results of its policies. Moreover, our rulers receive a lot of money for solving problems, including problems arising in connection with historical monuments. So let the government decide the fate of the Chernyakhovsky monument and the fate of the Katyn memorial. I personally am not a supporter of the transfer, demolition, or destruction of any monuments, including monuments dedicated to the Red Army. Let them stand, they do not bother me at all. A . As for the Katyn memorial, I can say the following: I don’t intend to cry either.

[eztaeznii]

Modern gay European vandals with short memories!