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At the summit in Indonesia demanded to reform the UN

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At the Asia-Africa Summit, which opened in Jakarta, Indonesian President Joko Widodo announced the demand for summit participants to reform the United Nations. According to Widodo, the UN is no longer able to cope with new challenges in global geopolitics and the economy. Indonesian President quoted RIA News:

In my opinion, the global imbalance is becoming more and more suffocating. The opinion that the economic problems of the world can be solved exclusively by the World Bank, the International Monetary Fund and the Asian Development Bank has become obsolete. We must build a new world economic order that will be open to new emerging economic powers.


At the summit in Indonesia demanded to reform the UN


Country representatives (and delegations from more than fifty states arrived in Jakarta) agreed that the UN is no longer a platform that can resolve international conflicts. As an example, Yemen was mentioned, which the “coalition” led by Saudi Arabia began to bomb without any coordination in the United Nations.

The Jakarta Summit is dedicated to the 60 anniversary of the Bandung Conference, where the main anti-colonial aspects were formulated. The Russian delegation in Jakarta is headed by a representative of the Federation Council, Ilyas Umakhanov.
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  1. RESEARCHER
    RESEARCHER April 23 2015 16: 13
    +35
    Reform reform discord. You just need to take away from the United States all levers of pressure on the UN.
    1. vanavatny
      vanavatny April 23 2015 16: 20
      +27
      and knock these levers on the head
    2. The comment was deleted.
    3. siberalt
      siberalt April 23 2015 16: 21
      +5
      First you need to create an alternative. And the USA should not be allowed there yet. Also, do not accept countries as members of military blocs. Let them stand in the hallway and wait in line until they are corrected.
      1. hrych
        hrych April 23 2015 18: 36
        +6
        In essence, members of the Security Council are nuclear powers. And the right of vetto is given not by membership, but by a nuclear club. Everything else is tinsel.
    4. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock April 23 2015 16: 24
      +2
      Quote: RESEARCHER
      Reform reform discord. You just need to take away from the United States all levers of pressure on the UN.

      That's right, and the new World Bank should be founded by third world countries so that successful countries do not rip off third world countries if they are not able to repay the loan and are forced to sell resources: timber, diamonds, etc. etc. Let them create for themselves, as Brix created for themselves. Because all these world banks exist for the economic blackmail of underdeveloped countries, and the exhaustion of resources.
      For the countries of the first world there is one world fund, for the countries of the second world their own fund, and for the countries of the third world their own fund (banana republics).
      1. hrych
        hrych April 23 2015 18: 41
        +4
        You see, how admirers of the Torah have confused you, that Banks and Funds are generally necessary for the life of a society that has been using them for the last couple of hundreds of years, and our civilization, if not tens, has somehow managed without these moneylenders.
        1. Lt. Air Force stock
          Lt. Air Force stock April 23 2015 19: 33
          +1
          Quote: hrych
          You see, how admirers of the Torah have confused you, that Banks and Funds are generally necessary for the life of a society that has been using them for the last couple of hundreds of years, and our civilization, if not tens, has somehow managed without these moneylenders.

          Well, do not tell me in the Middle Ages the Medici credited all of Europe ...
          1. hrych
            hrych April 23 2015 19: 53
            +4
            You went right to the Templars and the Lombards, who discovered that the world can be captured with gold ... Of course, the Medici are more likely consumers of finances, the family claimed the thrones, but the time is right. But this first wave was quenched, were still male kings. According to this scheme, the Masonic Caudla acted, calling the Templars ancestors. But in reality, they managed to establish a world-banking order less than 100 years ago.
    5. Giant thought
      Giant thought April 23 2015 16: 24
      +1
      This question must be carefully studied in order to prevent mistakes.
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 April 23 2015 16: 30
        +4
        But didn’t the Americans muddied it, with the aim of depriving Russia of the veto in the UN Security Council?
        1. Lt. Air Force stock
          Lt. Air Force stock April 23 2015 16: 34
          +3
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          But didn’t the Americans muddied it, with the aim of depriving Russia of the veto in the UN Security Council?

          Maybe they, just recently read the news about how the Indonesian leader complained to the US about the threat from China. In any case, the UN Security Council was not formed from scratch and the veto right serves as a safeguard for new world wars.
          1. s1н7т
            s1н7т April 23 2015 17: 09
            +1
            Quote: Lt. air force reserve
            The UN Security Council was not formed from scratch and the right of veto serves as a safeguard for new world wars.

            How many countries disagree with you, list?
        2. vetor
          vetor April 23 2015 17: 22
          +1
          And so without Russia, the bombing and Yugoslavia and so on took place.
          And in general, nonsense on a member of the UN Security Council and a powerful nuclear power sanctions to introduce like Burkina Faso what. And the UN obeyed a long time ago. If the headquarters were not in New York, then the situation would be different.
          You give the exclusion of the USSR from the League of Nations!
    6. Finches
      Finches April 23 2015 16: 29
      +5
      Any solution to the contradictions between the countries, unfortunately, is a war! The USA will not give any leverage! We do not want to play to the tune of the United States ...! The USA does not want to make concessions ... This has already happened a couple of times in the history of mankind ... not so long ago, in the 20th century!
      Under socialism, the United States was to our hearts, as it was to us - for each, white was white, black, was black - balance and parity! And now under capitalism, we ourselves have generated a hydra of betrayal - any major businessman will be a priori traitor, since his capital has already become hostages to the financial system of the tailored USA! And he, of course, is a hostage to his capital - the circle has closed! And the USA is wonderful understands and there is no parity, which allows them to continue not to stop in their aggressive rhetoric!
      Such a circle breaks only through blood ..., unfortunately, but in a global sense, through a world war or revolution, a civil war inside any of the conflicting powers! And as a result, the financial collapse of the entire world system and, again, war!
      .... and Indonesia, there is no decree for anyone ...!
      1. STALGRAD76
        STALGRAD76 April 23 2015 18: 41
        +1
        It would not be unpleasant to talk about this, but, unfortunately, the entire world economy, all political processes are tightly controlled by pend @ camp, most likely the mattress is only executors and steering financial clans, families. Under control, the key levers of the economy, finances, patents, control over science, so that they suddenly do not create any kind of perpetual motion machine, direct people's thoughts and aspirations into deadlocked paths of development poison each other ....
    7. milann
      milann April 23 2015 16: 46
      +4
      Well, let them at their summit announce a package of sanctions against the United States and satellites, and shaking the air is an empty matter.
    8. Oleg S.
      Oleg S. April 23 2015 17: 07
      0
      So they gave you their "Toy". Moreover, the guys from Indonesia will not have enough "Authority". And it will be explained to them soon. Asians would first call all this a world conference and invite the Heads of State and not representatives.
    9. vodolaz
      vodolaz April 23 2015 17: 31
      +1
      Case says, because of the US, the UN has become a pure fiction.
  2. asadov
    asadov April 23 2015 16: 14
    +1
    Man, let me kiss you for such words
  3. vanavatny
    vanavatny April 23 2015 16: 15
    +9
    golden words, but does not stop, but ceases
  4. shadow
    shadow April 23 2015 16: 16
    +1
    Began. A start.
  5. Abbra
    Abbra April 23 2015 16: 17
    0
    It is high time. Headquarters to move to Moscow.
  6. veksha50
    veksha50 April 23 2015 16: 17
    0
    Well done, Vidodo !!! The country is small, and the president is with great intelligence !!!
    Honor and respect !!!
    1. matross
      matross April 23 2015 17: 23
      +1
      Indonesia? Small?! Bugagalaughing
      1. veksha50
        veksha50 April 23 2015 22: 20
        +2
        Quote: matRoss
        Indonesia? Small?! Bugaga:laughing:


        Pancake!!! He became old and stupid ... He took and climbed into Wiki ...

        "Indonesia (Indonesia. Indonesia), the official name - the Republic of Indonesia (Indonesia. Republik Indonesia) is a state in Southeast Asia. The population, according to the 2010 census, is more than 237,5 million people (according to estimates for July 2011 - over 245,6 million peopleek), territory - 1 919 440 km², for both of these indicators is the largest country in the region. It is fourth in the world in terms of population and fourteenth in territory.

        It's a shame that in my old age I got so bad ... and I still considered it a country of thousands of small islands, and with a population of no more than any Russian region ...

        PS Live a century - learn a century ...
  7. Yozhas
    Yozhas April 23 2015 16: 18
    +6
    I support. Why the UN is needed - to support and promote the US dermocracy around the world and to rub Churkin’s nerves. Americans and without the UN bomb what they want.

    Or disband or rename the Organization Approving Violence.
  8. not Russian
    not Russian April 23 2015 16: 18
    0
    To begin with, headquarters should be moved to Moscow or St. Petersburg
    1. kotvov
      kotvov April 23 2015 19: 07
      0
      To begin with, headquarters should be moved to Moscow or St. Petersburg,
      headquarters, in my opinion, should be in a neutral country.
  9. serg1970
    serg1970 April 23 2015 16: 22
    +3
    Soon, the states will be kicking everyone and everyone, including types like the Australian Abbott. Moreover, the "Abbots" will do it with a special frenzy, remembering everything that they licked off the US ass. laughing
    1. sasha52ru
      sasha52ru April 23 2015 16: 29
      0
      Yes yes yes it is necessary to throw toilet paper these freaks on the letter M laughing
  10. Amur
    Amur April 23 2015 16: 23
    +3
    It is more correct to build a new international institution by throwing this theater of absurdity into the dustbin of history.
    But the United States will never simply give up its advantages, and all members of the Security Council will also think a hundred times before deciding to take such a step and support it.
  11. sasha52ru
    sasha52ru April 23 2015 16: 26
    +2
    It's time to change the old rules where they rule one person. We live in a multipolar world where every country has its own opinion and its sovereignty! If someone decides to kill someone with impunity, he must know that it will come to him sideways! And do not even war and killings, you must be able to negotiate !!!!
  12. SAXA.SHURA
    SAXA.SHURA April 23 2015 16: 32
    +1
    Quote: RESEARCHER
    Reform reform discord. You just need to take away from the United States all levers of pressure on the UN.

    YES.
  13. imugn
    imugn April 23 2015 16: 38
    +1
    The United States is the largest taxpayer at the UN. a large "coalition" of states is needed to "kill" the United States. At the same time, the United States can simply withdraw from the UN, or, for sure, it has a lot of compromising material on UN functionaries and can threaten them. If someone doesn't like something, it is better to create an alternative or join an existing organization and develop it in the desired direction.
  14. novorosdon
    novorosdon April 23 2015 16: 42
    +1
    That's not news. Everyone knows and talks about this.
  15. st25310
    st25310 April 23 2015 16: 44
    +1
    Unfortunately, the phrase "I will complain to the UN" does not scare anyone today.
  16. flSergius
    flSergius April 23 2015 16: 47
    0
    Do not reform, but send to ignore. Ban Ki-moon will have more free time to drive bearded tranny on dates, and the BRICS, ASEAN, EurAsEC, CU, and Latin American countries will create their own consultative platform where they will solve problems together, and not just one will partner with the eggs twist.
  17. RUSS
    RUSS April 23 2015 16: 52
    +3
    The once useless League of Nations was blown away and the stupid UN was blown away.
  18. 717
    717 April 23 2015 17: 03
    +1
    Reform for the United States. you will see. and exclude the United States from somewhere it’s not real. their influence on world politics is enormous.
  19. A-Sim
    A-Sim April 23 2015 17: 23
    0
    From my point of view, reform is impossible. The emergence of an alternative deliberative body that owns the instruments of the real, incl. economic and military influence is the only way out of the situation. BUT he, again, leads through a confrontation between the parties. And in all areas and by any means. The dialectic is evident.
  20. Yves762
    Yves762 April 23 2015 17: 33
    0
    All this is empty.
    The problem rests in the absence of really working mechanisms to ensure the subjectivity of supranational institutions. And this world community could not be solved neither for the League of Nations, nor for the UN.
  21. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 April 23 2015 17: 35
    0
    After the "collapse" of the USSR, the UN became an organization of one state, the USA. There are no real leaders capable of solving world problems, only puppets.
  22. Khagysh
    Khagysh April 23 2015 17: 37
    0
    The UN does not fulfill the functions assigned to it. It does not need to be reformed, but dissolved.
  23. dummy
    dummy April 23 2015 18: 16
    0
    Oh, surely soon in Indonesia the orange revolution will take root.
  24. sw6513
    sw6513 April 23 2015 18: 47
    0
    UN-there is nothing to sense. They do not heed the Americans, and if so then it is better for them not to eat money ..
  25. iouris
    iouris April 23 2015 18: 50
    0
    Reforming the UN means reforming the United States. The UN is an instrument of globalization, and from the very first day. And the USA is an instrument of the Fed.
  26. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky April 23 2015 20: 30
    0
    Quote: Finches
    .... and Indonesia, there is no decree for anyone ...!


    Yes, the point is not whether it is a decree to whom, or not a decree)))

    The whole trick is that with this statement, SAM !!! UN "authority" questioned !!!

    Indonesia is the host country, and therefore, it is very likely that not just the opinion of Indonesia was voiced, but the consolidated opinion of the participating countries was expressed. And this is more than 50 countries !!! Roughly speaking, a quarter of those submitted to the UN!
    In 50 countries, color revolutions can be arranged - mattress mattresses will be torn apart))) Meanwhile, there are other countries that are not represented at the summit, but share the voiced point of view.
    Previously, the UN really decided something, but today this organization, headed by the old jackal Ban Ge Moon, serves the interests of one state - the United States.
    Now hegemons have something to scratch their turnips.
  27. Masters
    Masters April 23 2015 20: 40
    0
    Quote: vanavate
    and knock these levers on the head

    To put the head on one gamen with a lever, to fix it well so that it does not hang out, and to set the brains by the second
  28. KBPC50
    KBPC50 April 23 2015 21: 02
    0
    Indonesia is a colony of Japan and the United States. What the Americans and the Japs say they will. The entire industry of today's Indonesia belongs to herself by 20-30 percent. The government is subordinate to the USA and Japan. Therefore, they are afraid of China. Everything else does not interest them. Ordinary fear for their Tugriks. They do not want any democracy in the world. Pure pragmatics. They do not need Russia, they need, I repeat dollars.
  29. eugeny_159
    eugeny_159 April 24 2015 11: 04
    0
    when the League of Nations was unable to carry out its functions of maintaining peace and tranquility between countries, a great war broke out. now the situation is very similar, and some "exceptional states" believe that they can solve their problems on the basis of NATO, regardless of the opinion of the UN.