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Tests of the new An-178 will begin in Ukraine in May

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SE "Antonov" (Kiev) intends to begin in May flight tests of the new transporter An-178 with a carrying capacity up to 18 t, reports MIC With reference to the general designer of the enterprise Dmitry Kivu.

Tests of the new An-178 will begin in Ukraine in May


“In the coming days, ground tests of An-178 will begin. In May, it is planned to switch to the flight test program, ”Kiva said at the ceremony of rolling out the aircraft from the assembly shop.

The General Designer clarified that at present, “the assembly of the second experienced An-178 for strength and fatigue tests has also begun, and the serial plant is already mastering the digital documentation for deploying the An-178 serial production”.

Expressing confidence in the excellent market prospects of the transport worker, Kiva noted that "in the production cooperation under the An-178 program, about 200 companies from 14 countries are involved." According to him, "a new car is already waiting for both in the domestic market and potential customers from third countries."

“Today we are negotiating with foreign partners about the sale of the aircraft, joint production, the transfer of the license to assemble the aircraft,” said the general designer.

The new An-178 is being created to replace the An-12, and is designed “to effectively perform all the main tasks of the transport aircraft, including logistics, equipment transportation, equipment delivery,” he explained and added that “An-178’s significant competitive difference the ability to transport the entire range of packaged cargoes, including large sea containers 1С.
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  1. ruslan207
    ruslan207 April 17 2015 13: 22
    +28
    And who will buy it?
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt April 17 2015 13: 25
      +44
      Quote: ruslan207
      And who will buy it?
      Well, maybe Israel in revenge for the S-300 lol )))
      1. kot28.ru
        kot28.ru April 17 2015 13: 37
        +11
        And Ukraine in May will still be what ? If so, to what extent laughing ? If in the present, will it master the issue? fool
      2. science fiction writer
        science fiction writer April 17 2015 13: 42
        +24
        As a monument, he will go to the grave of the Ukrainian Aviation Industry as someone who needs it in a single copy.
        1. Bayonet
          Bayonet April 17 2015 19: 17
          +1
          Quote: fiction
          At the grave of the Ukrainian Aviation Industry as a monument will go

          They talked a lot about the "grave", but they still work ... Kivu was also written off early, he did not go to Russia, he plows to the Krai.
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    2. _Buryat_
      _Buryat_ April 17 2015 13: 26
      +12
      "According to him," the new car is already awaiting both in the domestic market and potential customers from third countries "


      If I were a place of potential customers from third countries, I would have thought hard - is it worth buying anything
      at the horses ... feel
      Or is it so ... for the red words said ...
      1. Sura
        Sura April 17 2015 14: 00
        +17
        The United States already bought engines for rockets from them - a beautiful explosion, but it turned out.
      2. Alf
        Alf April 17 2015 18: 27
        0
        Quote: _Buryat_
        If I were a place of potential customers from third countries, I would have thought hard - is it worth buying anything
        at the horses ...

        You can buy, but first chairs, then money.
      3. Braastad
        Braastad April 17 2015 20: 32
        0
        The third country, I think Ukrainians consider RUSSIA.
    3. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov April 17 2015 13: 26
      +5
      Quote: ruslan207
      And who will buy it?

      Israel...! bully
      1. jaguar
        jaguar April 17 2015 13: 33
        +10
        Israel...! And why the hell is Israel ???
        1. Vitaly Anisimov
          Vitaly Anisimov April 17 2015 13: 56
          +2
          Quote: jaguar
          Israel...! And why the hell is Israel ???

          They will resell to the Palestinians ..))) Then I am silent ...)))
      2. GUS
        GUS April 17 2015 13: 35
        +19

        Well, if there they hoped to dance, there wasn’t a chance at the factory. I think this was the last aircraft under the Antonov brand.

        And this one here, flyer kuev



        And Vital is shining right.



        Continuous help

        1. sasha52ru
          sasha52ru April 17 2015 13: 42
          +8
          There is a lakh near a hollow with a pointer to where ...... laughing
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        3. GUS
          GUS April 17 2015 14: 06
          +3
          Peremoga, in the form of an airplane that was never even painted before (the heritage of the scoop, by the way) with inscriptions in Russian, as is customary, did not take place.
          The fact is that 80 percent of Russian-made components.
          According to Ukrainian aviation experts, the An-178 aircraft sales market may be about 800 aircraft over 10-12 years, and its approximate cost will be $ 20-25 million. Given this aircraft price, the total sales market is estimated to range from $ 14 billion to $ 20 billion


          The predecessor of An-178, An-158 was issued in the amount of 6 (!) Pieces, the only order for Cubana An-158 (leasing through OJSC Ilyushin Finance Co.)

          But Lyashko is so cute ...

          1. aleks 62
            aleks 62 April 17 2015 14: 19
            +6
            ..., in the form of an airplane that was never even painted before ...

            .... Airplanes paint after factory flight acceptance tests actually ..... All .... hi
            1. GUS
              GUS April 17 2015 14: 41
              +7
              .... Airplanes paint after factory flight acceptance tests actually ..... All ....
              Indeed, he still has not even passed ground.
              I repent, sinful.

              Ukraine begins development of a new An-178 transport aircraft

              09: 40 24.02.2010 newspaper "Kommersant-Ukraine"

              The Antonov Aviation Scientific and Technical Complex (ANTK) has started developing a new transport aircraft - An-178, which is planned to be delivered, in particular, to Russia, the Kommersant-Ukraine newspaper writes on Wednesday. An-178 will become a transport modification of the An-158. "The An-158 project will be subject to standard changes for the cargo version. For example, the fuselage has been expanded. Antonov's An-26 and An-32 cargo planes are already being decommissioned. In two years, this process will reach its peak and replace the outdated we will offer the models An-178 ", - the newspaper quotes the president of the Motor Sich company Vyacheslav Boguslaev. Motor Sich will design and manufacture an aircraft engine. According to Boguslaev, the carrying capacity of the new aircraft will be 15-20 tons. It will take about two years to prepare the project, manufacture a prototype and test it. “To launch the An-178 requires about $ 150 million. Such funds are not provided in our budget, and it is impossible to find them in Ukraine in the near future because of the financial crisis,” Boguslaev said. He does not rule out that the money will be allocated by the Russian United Aircraft Corporation (UAC). The main sales markets for the new aircraft will be Russia, the countries of the Middle East and Africa, says Vyacheslav Konovalov, an analyst with Infomost. In his opinion, the Defense Ministry, which had previously announced a program to replace military transport aircraft, as well as airlines operating in Siberia and the Far North, will be interested in the An-178 in Russia. “We could also apply for the markets of the EU countries, including orders for NATO. But ANTK does not have the necessary European licenses, and previous attempts to obtain them were unsuccessful,” the expert notes. According to the director of the Center for Economic and Political Analysis Alexander Kava, the production volume of the new aircraft could be 70-75 units per year: 60 in Russia and 10-15 in Ukraine.

              So, we’ll delete 60, and Ukraine will definitely buy 10-15 now for a year ?. At an estimated cost of 20-25 million dollars, they should find about 300 million per year. In addition, after Russia's refusal to buy it, the payback of the project will deteriorate, and the cost may increase. And Lockheed-Martin and Boeing are just waiting for an opportunity to give the Europeans a piece of the market. It can even remain in a single copy
          2. avt
            avt April 17 2015 14: 54
            +2
            Quote: GUS
            But Lyashko is so cute ...

            Grab your yaki garn of a lady on the photo and that neem is nice! laughing
            1. oblako
              oblako April 17 2015 18: 12
              +5
              Come on, a good plane, God grant life and see the sky. Designers and workers have done their job, it’s a shame that all sorts of horses and roosters will appropriate the results of this work, and they can even ruin it ... They’d rather have jumped, but the Bandera husk fell off from them ...
          3. SMikhalych
            SMikhalych April 17 2015 16: 23
            +1
            Quote: GUS
            But Lyashko is so cute ...

            Freudian reservation ... oh, little rascal lol
          4. kompotnenado
            kompotnenado April 17 2015 18: 39
            0
            This is a double. Lyashko is not for girls.
            1. Kent0001
              Kent0001 April 17 2015 21: 18
              0
              Well, for the sake of PR, you can ..., but around the corner "brav in your mouth" ...
        4. Olegovi4
          Olegovi4 April 17 2015 14: 29
          +2
          Quote: GUS
          And Vital is shining right.

          how symbolic - the leaders of Ukraine steal the symbol of their country with smiles and even with pride ...
        5. ratfly
          ratfly April 17 2015 15: 53
          +1
          Hohlonavoz created a flying dildo to the size of Lyashka. The customer is happy.
        6. Kos_kalinki9
          Kos_kalinki9 April 17 2015 16: 48
          +1
          Is this all the local elite at the only aeroplan gathered? Well, sure, I’m too much. It’s a pity there is no rabbit. He looked so cool in the tank, but he did not light up here. Probably the flight test awaits.
        7. lev1201
          lev1201 April 17 2015 23: 02
          0
          what if aboard this litak accidentally appears a mine with a clockwork?
    4. 0,5
      0,5 April 17 2015 13: 30
      +10
      Quote: ruslan207
      And who will buy it?

      Antonov did good planes (it was DOING). I don’t know what is there now, but I think to laugh early. Our superjet, see our 10 percent
      1. GUS
        GUS April 17 2015 14: 58
        +4
        Quote: 0,5
        Antonov did good planes (it was DO)

        Nobody argues. But mass production is possible only with pre-orders with a prepayment, and the country, let's say, now has a low reputation as a supplier of sophisticated equipment. They presented with fanfare a prototype built on the basis of Soviet developments. How many will bring to mind and if it’s enough money is not clear for this. God be with them, if only the design bureau would not be completely killed. If this is not an outright fake, then it's great. Antonovites do not survive thanks to those who are in the frame, but contrary to!
      2. NordUral
        NordUral April 17 2015 16: 04
        +1
        Who would argue with that. Anes are Soviet planes ditched by the Outskirts.
      3. goose
        goose April 17 2015 17: 28
        0
        Sorry, but the last good Antonov plane was created more than 30 years ago, what development? My relative worked under the USSR there, even then there was corruption, nepotism, etc. components of the Ukrainian mentality. There were intrigues inside the collective of the design bureau. The production was healthier.
      4. Bayonet
        Bayonet April 17 2015 19: 36
        +1
        Quote: 0,5
        Antonov made good planes

        An-2, An-8, An-10, An-12, An-14, An-22, An-24, An-26, An-30, An-70, An-124 Ruslan,
        An-140, An-148, An-225 Mriya. Moreover, the aircraft created in Antonov Design Bureau were the main machines of the fleet of transport aircraft.
        This is what I remember - "flying dildo" (as ratfly claims) I don't remember.
      5. glasha3032
        glasha3032 April 18 2015 01: 19
        0
        The An-8 and An-10 were especially good! Their wings folded in flight ...
        1. Bayonet
          Bayonet April 18 2015 06: 57
          0
          Quote: glasha3032
          The An-8 and An-10 were especially good! Their wings folded in flight ..

          Yes, there were several catastrophes of the An-10 (especially the earlier series) due to the destruction of the wing center section (metal fatigue) in the air - a design flaw. In the An-12 created on the basis of the An-10, the flaws were eliminated and they still fly. True, they also fight because of running out of resources or overload - the greed of the operators! An-8 was good for its anti-icing system - 80 liters of alcohol!
    5. Good_Taxist
      Good_Taxist April 17 2015 13: 34
      +6
      Nevertheless, I would like them (An) to survive this difficult time !!!
      1. NordUral
        NordUral April 17 2015 16: 05
        +1
        After moving in full force in Russia, in general, after moving ...
        1. Days
          Days April 17 2015 23: 49
          0
          Together with the entire territory, industry and the population of Ukraine. Only Saakashvili should be returned to Georgia, and NATO propaganda with cookies would be returned to the United States.
      2. lev1201
        lev1201 April 17 2015 23: 02
        0
        sorry for the competitor?
    6. lelikas
      lelikas April 17 2015 13: 44
      +5
      Quote: ruslan207
      And who will buy it?

      The question is not correctly posed - Who is waiting for him? An-70 also wanted to sell packs in Europe.
      1. Simple
        Simple April 17 2015 21: 34
        0
        Maybe they were waiting. ...

        What is it to buy transport aircraft from Ukraine? - This is confidence in service for decades.

        Now "third countries" (to conclude contracts) will not do this. And everyone understands this. Including at the State Enterprise "Antonov".
        The birth of a stillborn child.
        Very sad.
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    8. siberalt
      siberalt April 17 2015 14: 12
      0
      You have to make one, test and shave off the license together. But what about the other 200 subcontractors from 14 countries? At "Antonov" workers have already forgotten when the last time they received their wages. And the specialists scatter, including to Russia.
    9. xenod55
      xenod55 April 17 2015 14: 17
      0
      We'll have to steal these planes (if they also fly - a hungry collector is a bad collector) to give back for debts.
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    11. iConst
      iConst April 17 2015 14: 37
      +4
      Quote: ruslan207
      And who will buy it?

      It would be something to buy. It was smooth on paper.
      And then: now the main question is not in the price of the product as such, but in service.
      The plane is not a lawn mower.

      Again, the same power. Vaughn Boeing admits that he is heavily dependent on the Russian titanium. As with him at the "brothers" zhovto-blakitnykh.

      And, as in that joke: Eat something - eat it, but hto give it ?!

      The Sukhoi Jet was "rolled" by our "partners". A good plane, well why is he such a competitor to the same Boeing and Airbus?
    12. samoletil18
      samoletil18 April 17 2015 16: 36
      +2
      Quote: ruslan207
      And who will buy it?

      "Ermak" will be tested and put into production faster in Ulyanovsk than this pepelats in Kiev
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet April 17 2015 19: 43
        +1
        Quote: samoletil18
        "Ermak" will be tested and put into production faster

        Serial production of the Ermak wide-body transport aircraft with a payload capacity of 80 tons and more is planned to begin by 2024. And these planes of different classes -
        18 and 80 tons. In KAMAZ you will not carry pies?
        1. samoletil18
          samoletil18 April 18 2015 22: 59
          0
          The key thought of my comment about 2024.
    13. samoletil18
      samoletil18 April 17 2015 16: 36
      0
      Quote: ruslan207
      And who will buy it?

      "Ermak" will be tested and put into production faster in Ulyanovsk than this pepelats in Kiev
      1. goose
        goose April 17 2015 17: 30
        +1
        Quote: samoletil18
        "Ermak" will be tested and put into production faster in Ulyanovsk than this pepelats in Kiev

        Consider the same plane 25 years minimum, but relevant now.
    14. APASUS
      APASUS April 17 2015 18: 06
      0
      Quote: ruslan207
      And who will buy it?

      This is a car for Africa, other countries are unlikely to risk dealing with Kiev
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA April 17 2015 19: 28
        +1
        Quote: APASUS
        This is a car for Africa, other countries are unlikely to risk dealing with Kiev

        After the expropriation of the T-64BV1 part of the Congolese order, Africa also refused to deal with 404. Congo authorities have already stated that we are sympathetic to the problems of Ukraine, but now we will order weapons in the Russian Federation.
        Especially after it turned out that invulnerable T-64, in mriy surpassing T-72 in all respects, in fact, towers are thrown in exactly the same way and, worst of all, they disintegrate during the explosion exactly along the welds.
    15. Alekseev
      Alekseev April 17 2015 21: 20
      0
      Quote: ruslan207
      And who will buy it?

      So far, nothing to talk about sales.
      Even there is no series and Antonov exists due to the assembly of the An-148 at the VASO in Voronezh (24 ana -148/158 in Voronezh, 9 in Kiev), but it knocks down on small repair contracts and components.
      Without a major contract, all talk is empty talk, for such a contract implies major loans (RF) and impressive cooperation (also of the Russian Federation).
    16. Sergey Vl.
      Sergey Vl. April 18 2015 02: 43
      0
      "- Fedosya Ivanovna, I have ten rubles worth of hay!
      - It's worth it, so no one buys it! Is that it burns well ... "(c) film" Formula of Love "
    17. Berkut-UA
      Berkut-UA April 18 2015 09: 24
      0
      Ha ha ha.
      Russia will not buy, in the West - there are ours.
      And on the outskirts there are only 500 paratroopers.
      How many airplanes do they need ???
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet April 18 2015 15: 14
        0
        Quote: Berkut-UA
        How many airplanes do they need ???

        One A-380 ... used winked
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  2. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt April 17 2015 13: 23
    +9
    Oh, but they could have had this success as the success of a single state. Both in the space program and in the marine fleet. They split us, you bastards ...
  3. mpzss
    mpzss April 17 2015 13: 23
    +3
    The most offensive thing is that this is not just a "transport" plane, but it was manufactured as a MILITARY transport ...
    again, all for war! fool
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet April 17 2015 19: 49
      +1
      Quote: mpzss
      The most offensive thing is that this is not just a "transport" plane, but it was manufactured as a MILITARY transport ...

      Wise remark smile . A transport plane in the army is called a military transport plane, and in a civilian, it’s simply a transport plane. All civilian transporters were designed taking into account the possibility of transporting military equipment and cargo - the dimensions of the cargo compartment, ramp, etc.
    2. Berkut-UA
      Berkut-UA April 18 2015 09: 29
      0
      Without a war, no niodin the fascist regime could not live long.
      And ... maintaining a military threat on the border with Russia is the MAIN goal of the ukro-president (which is the ambassador of the United States of America in Kuyiva)
  4. valokordin
    valokordin April 17 2015 13: 26
    0
    Quote: ruslan207
    And who will buy it?

    The United States, Israel, Iraq, Palestine, Lebanon, ISIS, Saudi Arabia and Yemen will buy it. Germany may replace Airbus and Junkers-52.
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov April 17 2015 13: 29
      +3
      Quote: valokordin
      Quote: ruslan207
      And who will buy it?

      The United States, Israel, Iraq, Palestine, Lebanon, ISIS, Saudi Arabia and Yemen will buy it. Germany may replace Airbus and Junkers-52.

      I wouldn’t fly on this and wouldn’t transport cargo ..... They steal everything there! hi
    2. fzr1000
      fzr1000 April 17 2015 13: 35
      +1
      No one will buy it from the above countries. And indeed no one will buy it.
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      2. bolat19640303
        bolat19640303 April 17 2015 13: 49
        +4
        The "friends" of Ukraine will not allow this car to enter the BTA market. There is nothing "personal - just business" here. To build for yourself, even taking into account the presence of a need - there are no such funds.
        1. FID
          FID April 17 2015 13: 57
          +9
          Yes, there is such a country - Brazil, there are already testing the Embraer KS-390 aircraft ... Payload - 23 tons and range up to 5000, plus refueling in the air ... Draw your own conclusions!
          1. avt
            avt April 17 2015 15: 22
            +5
            Quote: SSI
            Yes, there is such a country - Brazil,

            Absolutely right! In the global market this is not a passing option. He was generally sculpted under the Russian Ministry of Defense, as a competitor of the Il-214 and the continuation of the line 148/158/178, the benefit was actually done faster than the Il-214. Nobody needs it as a competitor and its fate will be exactly the same as that of the 70th - a medical fact not related to the quality of the engineering solution.
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            2. gjv
              gjv April 17 2015 16: 26
              +2
              Quote: avt
              Really faster than IL-214. Nobody needs it as a competitor and its fate will be exactly the same as that of the 70th - a medical fact not related to the quality of the engineering solution.

              We did it faster, yes. However, it seems to me that the carrying capacity and fuel consumption are still "medicine" of the engineering solution fellow ... Of course, there is no exact figure for fuel consumption before the tests, but from them, from the Antonov State Enterprise, preliminary figures for the practical range: 18 tons - 1000 km, 15 tons - 2000 km, 13,5 tons - 2600 km, 10 tons - 4000 km, 5 t - 5500 km. And how are they going to compete with such numbers with the C-130, C-160, KC-390. Is that with Spartan because of the price (just how are things with European certification?).
              Even their "competitor" An-12 carried 20 tons per 2500-3000 km! fellow Or I'm wrong?
              Well, buy them Maximus Air Cargo 1-2 items, hardly more. Enough to carry humanitarian aid to Africa - milk, eggs, strawberries - to African tsars-presidents. Everything is fresh - the speed is higher than the An-12 - IMHO the only advantage. In my opinion, this is still an engineering issue - GP + speed = costs. And "medical" is a hooah-howl - 800 pieces in 10 years. At this point fool . fellow
      3. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov April 17 2015 13: 58
        +1
        Quote: fzr1000
        No one will buy it from the above countries. And indeed no one will buy it.

        South Korea..! bully
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        2. gjv
          gjv April 17 2015 15: 40
          +1
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Quote: fzr1000 No one will buy it from the above countries. And indeed no one will buy it.
          South Korea..!

          Maybe Korea, only North. Their Air Koryo flies on two An-148s and they received the second just in February this year. And all in all, there are 148-18 passenger An-20s in operation today. Of these, in Ukraine itself, only 2-3, 2 North Korean, the rest - in Russia- "invader" fellow ... And where would they be (Antonov State Enterprise) today? What kind of shishi would the An-178 be rolled out if Russia- "invader"Would you buy 6 pieces of An-158 for Cuba from them? The latter, by the way, the Cubans also received this February. And their D-436-148 engine is not entirely Motor Sichevsky, there percent 40-45 parts with salute, and most jet Details - TND, TVD, camera, nozzle.
          And suddenly, lo and behold! fellow To roll out - such "strong" marketing - in 10 years we will "sell" 800 pieces! Here whipping "lard", when the "ancestors" do not fly too well - they "burn out" for fuel. Already, there were messages from airlines that they would suspend operation for economic reasons.
          Of course, before flight tests, there is still no accurate fuel consumption data. But structurally, the An-178 was not far from the An-148.
          And according to orders for the An-178, it seems that it was made according to the idea of ​​the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, but for some reason the Ministry of Defense does not know how much they buy and whether they buy at all (or are they steadfastly hiding the "strategic" secret)?
          And they only cherish one private customer - Maximus Air Cargo from the UAE. These Maximus are quite specific - one An-124-100 Ruslan, two Il-76TD and five Airbus A300-600 (according to other sources, three A300 + A330 + B-747). And they have specific loads - a stable and a "car stable" ( fellow emirs, sheikhs, princes)! Sometimes involved in humanitarian operations in Asia and Africa. And how much will they buy (if you still buy?) An-178? Yes 1-2 pieces maximum, just for humanitarian operations in Africa (so as not to splurge on European certification!).
        3. Bayonet
          Bayonet April 17 2015 19: 55
          0
          Quote: MIKHAN
          South Korea..!

          South Korea uses the US C-130H and C-130J Super Hercules transporters. They do not need hohlolet.
    3. 0255
      0255 April 17 2015 14: 01
      +3
      Quote: valokordin
      Quote: ruslan207
      And who will buy it?

      The United States, Israel, Iraq, Palestine, Lebanon, ISIS, Saudi Arabia and Yemen will buy it. Germany may replace Airbus and Junkers-52.

      Yanukovych tried to sell the An-70 in the EU, the gayropeans told him that the An-70 was good, but it wouldn’t go to the EU, because it’s not good to beat off buyers from Boeing and Airbus. Where is the guarantee that this "An" will not repeat the fate of the "seventieth"?
      It was only "bloody Putin" who could order new "Antonovs", but for this it was not necessary to ride on the Maidan
      1. STOP VOINE 2014
        STOP VOINE 2014 April 17 2015 14: 38
        +1
        I wish the residents of Zavod only all the best, to withstand these difficult days, to prevent Europe from destroying the aviation production of Ukraine, we already heard yesterday such an expression as, the government comes and goes and your production should live and develop, success!
    4. Bayonet
      Bayonet April 17 2015 21: 29
      0
      Quote: valokordin
      Junkers-52.

      Hehe, a bastard! You will fry the kebab from this bride - do not forget to tweet. laughing
  5. Good cat
    Good cat April 17 2015 13: 26
    +5
    They will not experience anything! Balabol! They need to ride!
  6. Engineer
    Engineer April 17 2015 13: 26
    +1
    Which workshop is shabby, not like the VASO workshop, where the An-148 is assembled. A new aircraft is good, but how a jet will replace the An-12 turboprop with the possibility of takeoff from unpaved airfields is not clear.
    1. aleks 62
      aleks 62 April 17 2015 14: 23
      +1
      .... but how jet will replace the An-12 turboprop with the possibility of take-off from unpaved airfields - it is not clear ....

      ..... Just like the An-12, the reactive Il-76, replaced in due time ..... According to statistics, flights from unpaved airfields are episodic (according to the statistics of An-12 operation, no more than 10% ...) .. .. hi
  7. sasha52ru
    sasha52ru April 17 2015 13: 28
    +1
    And it will be locked
  8. s30461
    s30461 April 17 2015 13: 28
    +1
    In the coming days, ground tests of the An-178 will begin.

    What does it mean? Ruin began issuing minibuses in exchange for Gazelles? And wings to increase seats? Well, what can I say ... they rule Bandera !!
  9. ARES623
    ARES623 April 17 2015 13: 31
    +4
    Wait, see. Another An-12 substitute, the An-70, has already been adopted by Ukraine, but nothing is heard about it, in terms of production.
  10. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov April 17 2015 13: 31
    +3
    We’ve gathered a couple .. there’s something to run on!
  11. KBR109
    KBR109 April 17 2015 13: 36
    +1
    Nothing, a car will be needed ... the new Ukraine. But whoever buys it is darkness here. More precisely, the search for the missing black cat at night in a room without light. lol
  12. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat April 17 2015 13: 36
    +3
    I think it's just pouting. No dill and its aircraft are needed. So, at best, they will assemble an 1 prototype, after which everything will close safely. And the industry will be covered.
  13. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 April 17 2015 13: 38
    +7
    Tests of the new An-178 will begin in Ukraine in May
    I do not understand tse peremoga chi zrada? It seems to me that this Litak will be propping up the side of the An-70 plant. An-70 is already a line of buyers, they will soon fight ;-)

    Oleg Konstantinovich was very lucky. He will no longer see in his native aircraft factory the dances of a frozen boxer and a gay deputy. And pulls obscene, but I say nothing.






    Goodbye "Antonov", the ukropeytsy will finish you off. We remember, we grieve ...
    1. Bombardier
      Bombardier April 17 2015 14: 02
      +5
      The factory workers simply do not fall in love with Lyashko, they are ready right in the shop to commit adultery with him ....
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA April 17 2015 19: 46
      0
      Quote: Novel 1977
      I didn’t understand. It seems to me that this lithak will be propped up at the An-70 plant from the side.

      That neither, they all will be thrust into the fuselage of the second "Mriya" and will be handed over to non-ferrous materials. smile
  14. McLuha-MacLeod
    McLuha-MacLeod April 17 2015 13: 39
    +1
    Ukropepelats. I won’t say anything else.
  15. kelevra
    kelevra April 17 2015 13: 45
    0
    They will not extend it, and if they offer to support third countries, then these countries will simply buy out technologies and transfer them to their territory.
  16. sergant7667
    sergant7667 April 17 2015 13: 47
    0
    Quote: ruslan207
    And who will buy it?


    Papua New Ukraine.
  17. fomkin
    fomkin April 17 2015 13: 49
    +6
    Again, Stalin is to blame. It was from his submission that Antonov’s bureau was transferred to Kiev. If I am not mistaken in 52.
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet April 17 2015 20: 05
      -1
      Quote: fomkin
      Antonov’s bureau was transferred to Kiev. If I am not mistaken in 52.

      The experimental design bureau (OKB-153) was established on May 31, 1946 of the year. Resolution of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks and the Council of Ministers of the USSR at the Novosibirsk Aviation Plant. Antonov Oleg Konstantinovich was appointed the chief designer.
      The design bureau was immediately given the task of creating the An-2 agricultural aircraft, the first flight of which took place on August 31, 1947.
      In the summer of 1952, OKB moves to Kiev.
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet April 18 2015 12: 46
        0
        Quote: Bayonet
        In the summer of 1952, OKB moves to Kiev.

        I would like to look into the eyes of the creature that is not content with the move of the design bureau in 1952 with the help of a minus on me! Just "tanned", as one of my friends used to say!
  18. Kolka82
    Kolka82 April 17 2015 13: 59
    0
    And where in the photo is the right wing console ??? belay
    Not, well, the truth is, all the pictures are either of the tail, or the angle is chosen such that only the left side is visible ...
    1. sgr291158
      sgr291158 April 17 2015 14: 05
      +4
      And this is a one-winged bandit
      1. Kolka82
        Kolka82 April 17 2015 14: 07
        0
        It’s just another fake ... It’s zrada?
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    4. gjv
      gjv April 17 2015 17: 03
      +1
      Quote: Kolka82
      And where in the photo is the right wing console ??? Not really well

      Nicholas, her (or im, or mat mat...) stop
      Theme? Yes, they know at the Antonov State Enterprise that planes with two wings (or wings? smile ) there are! And their planes (or theirs) fly. Here you are - TWO!:


      The problem is different. This is a cargo plane and it should not only fly well, but also carry well. And preliminary figures of practical range: 18 tons - 1000 km, 15 tons - 2000 km, 13,5 tons - 2600 km, 10 tons - 4000 km, 5 tons - 5500 km. And with these numbers they whipped (800 pcs. for 10 years!) compete with the C-130, C-160, KC-390, while still not having a European certificate of airworthiness. A European certification And how may affect the price.
      Even their "competitor" An-12 carries 20 tons for 2500-3000 km! Slightly slower (by 19%), but more - further!
      And yet - here in the consoles under the wings of the engines - half - Russian!
  19. varag81
    varag81 April 17 2015 14: 00
    0
    Will remain in a single copy, in some kind of museum.
  20. atamankko
    atamankko April 17 2015 14: 02
    0
    Another lie of the junta.
  21. manguest
    manguest April 17 2015 14: 03
    0
    Nobody will buy it, if they can refuel it, they will take Lyashka and Lyashkovites on a tour closer to the Geyrop border, you look and they will earn money for a refueling station - not a business.
  22. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter April 17 2015 14: 07
    0
    Bullshit. And golem propaganda.
  23. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov April 17 2015 14: 10
    +1
    Obama's cry ..in the EU and Asia..Who wants to smoke .. oh Buy This beautiful th plane An-178? Silence, sign of consent! drinks
  24. surovts.valery
    surovts.valery April 17 2015 14: 10
    +2
    “Already in the coming days, ground tests of the An-178 will begin.

    Tests for gnidnost, Svidomo and Maidan. This will be the end.
  25. zinger
    zinger April 17 2015 14: 11
    0
    someone is fighting, and someone is working. Compare with other aircraft of this class.
  26. Alekseir162
    Alekseir162 April 17 2015 14: 14
    0
    Poroshenko, a coffin on casters found your country ... (from children's horror stories told in a pioneer camp at night). bully
  27. Falcon
    Falcon April 17 2015 14: 16
    +1
    Our Il 214 where? We can miss an important moment and lose the market! Embraer KC-390 started testing, An-178 is also in hardware, I understand it will start flying soon. We are late with our equipment.

    We must pay tribute to An built in the post-Soviet time and an 148 and an 70 lifted into the air.
    It is a pity that our fathers, the founders of aviation, taught them something, built factories there, kb. If not for the USSR, then in Ukraine, in addition to wheat fields, nothing happened.
  28. Abbra
    Abbra April 17 2015 14: 18
    0
    I liked the word roll out of the hangar. Antonov - M.S.K.A.L.L. Here they obviously did not complete it. Urgently rename to Antonenko.
  29. tezey
    tezey April 17 2015 14: 30
    +1
    It is possible that the AN-178 is a necessary and good machine. The Russian analogue of the IL-214 is still in the project. However, it is one thing to test a single copy and a completely different thing is serial production. The ability of today's Ukraine to build complex aircraft in serial production raises doubts. This raises questions about technology, financing, sales promotion opportunities, and subsequent technical support. There is a question of who will let Ukraine enter this specific and very divided market. I doubt the successful fate of this undertaking.
  30. sanyabasik
    sanyabasik April 17 2015 14: 38
    +1
    This plane was designed and made not by dill, but by normal citizens of a normal country. Rulers come and go, but people stay. I would like Antonov’s design bureau to survive in this difficult time, sooner or later, but we will be together ..
    1. iConst
      iConst April 17 2015 14: 42
      +2
      Quote: sanyabasik
      but we will be together ..

      We will all be there ... laughing

      Black humor ...
  31. zloycactus
    zloycactus April 17 2015 14: 45
    0
    There is a concept "Flies - does not fly", a stillborn project. But the technique is a pity, it is good.
  32. volcano909
    volcano909 April 17 2015 15: 09
    +2
    At 148 I fly sometimes, nicho so, reliably ...
  33. Kolka82
    Kolka82 April 17 2015 15: 12
    +1
    Quote: Kolka82
    And where in the photo is the right wing console ??? belay
    Not, well, the truth is, all the pictures are either of the tail, or the angle is chosen such that only the left side is visible ...

    Campaign, Lyashko minus laughing
  34. be0560
    be0560 April 17 2015 15: 16
    0
    Guys! Antonov Design Bureau is essentially Russian, transferred to Ukraine during the war years at the initiative and request of the fool Khrushchev. All aircraft of this bureau were created with the help of specialists from Russia.
    1. iouris
      iouris April 17 2015 15: 56
      0
      Ukraine is a part of Russia from which they want to make (or have already made) Anti-Russia. According to the creators of this project, all this should end with the self-destruction of Russia to everyone’s pleasure. And where Antonov’s design bureau is located is a tenth question.
    2. lev1201
      lev1201 April 17 2015 23: 04
      +1
      NOT BEFORE, but AFTER the war.
      As, by the way, and "YUZHMASH".
  35. voliador
    voliador April 17 2015 15: 44
    0
    Firstly, it has not yet taken off, and secondly, the Il-214 takes two tons more - 20 tons, and thirdly, they began to do it more than five years ago, and besides, not from scratch, but on the basis of the passenger An -158, so the deadlines are clearly all shit. So he saw the light in general - a miracle.
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet April 17 2015 20: 25
      0
      Quote: voliador
      Firstly, it has not yet taken off, and secondly, the Il-214 takes two tons more

      I would say "will take". At the opening of the DefExpo-2014 exhibition on February 06, 2014, it was announced that in 2018-2019. production of the first prototype of the aircraft is planned. In 2019, respectively, it is planned to release the second prototype, and from 2020 it is planned to start serial production of the aircraft.
  36. litus
    litus April 17 2015 15: 58
    +2
    there is absolutely no desire to mock Antonov. Sorry for the people. OUR people and friends are also there. Such a powerful KB is bent. I don’t know what to enjoy here. Not everyone in Ukraine is Svidomo. And if something really comes out of it with a new plane - well, thank God! I would only be happy for the Antonov Design Bureau.
    1. veksha50
      veksha50 April 17 2015 17: 06
      -1
      Quote: litus
      there is absolutely no desire to mock Antonov.



      And who is mocking something ??? It’s just a reaction to strange information: Antonov is plundered, dispersed, destroyed, and then he suddenly creates a wave of the conductor’s stick competitive products needed by many countries....

      PS By and large, Antonov's products (yes, excellent, I don’t argue) were needed mainly by the USSR-Russia, but certainly "many countries" ...
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet April 17 2015 20: 26
        0
        Quote: veksha50
        And who is mocking something ???

        See previous comments, there are a lot of things ...
  37. Vantal
    Vantal April 17 2015 16: 02
    0
    as in the famous cartoon - Good luck!
  38. ksv36
    ksv36 April 17 2015 16: 03
    0
    Quote: _Buryat_
    If I were a place of potential customers from third countries, I would have thought hard - is it worth buying anything
    at the horses ...


    Can. But only JUMPS! laughing
  39. Yuri Gagarin
    Yuri Gagarin April 17 2015 16: 21
    +2
    No one buys or buys Ana, despite the fact that they are the best in their class. The West just does not need a competitively capable Antonov. The case of fathers and grandfathers was ruined. I would like to be glad, but nothing.
  40. CheByrashka
    CheByrashka April 17 2015 16: 39
    -1
    Quote: Thunderbolt
    Oh, but they could have had this success as the success of a single state. Both in the space program and in the marine fleet. They split us, you bastards ...

    It's time to call Gorby to account. Enough for him to hide from the Germans. Take him out at the end of Red Square, so to speak on May 9, so that everyone passing by can spit at him. I think it will drown. And rightly so.
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet April 17 2015 20: 31
      0
      Quote: CheByrashka
      It's time to call Gorby to account.

      Have you forgotten anyone else? December 8, 1991 in Viskuly near Brest (Belarus), President of the RSFSR Boris Yeltsin, President of Ukraine Leonid Kravchuk and Chairman of the Supreme Council of the Republic of Belarus Stanislav Shushkevich signed the Agreement on the collapse of the USSR and the creation of the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS).
  41. veksha50
    veksha50 April 17 2015 17: 02
    0
    "Expressing confidence in excellent market prospects transport worker, Kiva noted that “in industrial cooperation An-178 program involves about 200 companies from 14 countries»" ....

    A strange fairy tale ... extravaganza, dreaming of becoming a reality ...
  42. kompotnenado
    kompotnenado April 17 2015 18: 41
    +1
    He especially smiled about the domestic market.
  43. pvv113
    pvv113 April 17 2015 20: 46
    0
    a new car is already waiting

    Hard to believe something
  44. pvv113
    pvv113 April 17 2015 20: 46
    0
    a new car is already waiting

    Hard to believe something
  45. sounddoc
    sounddoc April 17 2015 21: 25
    +1
    And figs to you, quilted jackets !!! Europe will buy, do not go to a fortuneteller !!! If they paint it tolerantly ...
    Threat Lyashko in shock ...
  46. ARES623
    ARES623 April 17 2015 22: 00
    0
    The fate of this aircraft is very incomprehensible. Ukraine will not be able to redeem them so much that production becomes profitable. Europe will not let a competitor enter its market. Russia without even having its own, for now, analogue will not become contacted by contracts with Ukraine, even if relations are warming. China will twist its arms for a long time and, most likely, will also master its own aircraft. Remain the countries of Africa and Latin America. The dimension of the aircraft is also not clear. Under what load it was designed. The main customer for such boards is the defense departments. What will he be able to carry as an airborne transport? In short, some kind of fog. But Antonovites were never fools. Their products have always been reliable and sound. They probably calculated some plans. We must wait, see.
  47. 79057330785
    79057330785 April 17 2015 22: 20
    +1
    The Antonov Design Bureau under the USSR thundered, although they screwed up with the An-10. Now the global market for transporters is occupied by Hercules and S-295, which are already flying. Radically something new will appear only with the advent of some new revolutionary engines. In the near future, Ukraine may create some kind of Superjet, only a cargo one. Perhaps if the Chinese connect, something will work out and even go to the market, but in order to go, the product must be attractive and competitive. There are buyers for Ukrainian tanks and armored personnel carriers, maybe for the An-178, but most likely they will be third-world countries that have no where else to buy such planes or who will pay a kickback to buy from them. And kickbacks are paid even by companies with a name (recall the story with a Mercedes)
  48. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli April 17 2015 22: 51
    0
    It is sincerely a pity that such a design bureau went to the "chocolate fraer" regime.
    The aircraft of this design bureau have always been in demand among civilians and the military and in the USSR and Russia and in any other countries, including European countries and states.
  49. Tribuns
    Tribuns April 17 2015 23: 34
    0
    There are creators in Ukraine who do not jump on the Maidan and do not shout Bandera rivulet, but work ...

    It is amazing that in the context of bacchanalia, obscurantism and growing neo-Nazism, Antonov’s state-owned enterprise is working and creating something ...
    One question: "For whom, for the Kiev junta, which handed over the country to US control?"
    After all, the USA does not need a strong and independent Ukraine, and the role of a food raw materials appendage of the West has already been prepared for it!
  50. Pomah
    Pomah April 18 2015 08: 58
    0
    Maybe at least something remains ...