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A little bit about the "struggle for Ukraine"

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A little bit about the "struggle for Ukraine"Recently, there have been two points of view:

1. Ukrainians zombie.
2. zombie all those who consider Ukrainians zombie.

There are also “third” forces, but for them the Ukrainian question is far and unimportant. For Russians and Ukrainians, some form of antagonism and paradox is clearly developing. The victory of the Maidan and the subsequent events are reasonably “hung” on the western “puppeteers”. Naturally, the defeat in the “battle for the minds of Ukrainians” should be determined by Russia. Many people admit that the “puppeteers” have worked and worked too professionally today, as opposed to Russia, which was able to help only a very small part of Ukrainians (or even abandoned everything and everyone).

Strictly speaking, the stories that Russia owes something to someone permanently, as well as about its permanent backwardness in everything, are almost always heard which historical period do not take. Let's first consider the “failure of pro-Russian politics in Ukraine.” It seems to many that while American (and not only) billions worked for anti-Russian forces, those people who were supposed to be responsible for “pro-Russian Ukraine” were inactive or acted very inefficiently and terribly unprofessional. I’m very interested, but where is the name of the “organization” that is professionally responsible for the mood of the people of China or Belarus, Kazakhstan or Turkey ?! And many other countries where Russia has permanent geopolitical, military and economic interests. What are the “events” to improve relations with Russians in Poland, Germany or Japan ?! All this is demagogy!

There was no interference in internal Ukrainian affairs and was not required for 23 for a rather trivial reason — there were no mass anti-Russian sentiments ... Even in Western Ukraine there was nothing like the current hysteria with “moskalyaku to gilyak”. Yes, Bandera was revered there and they didn’t like Russians, but nobody rode with guns to kill people in the Donbass. The situation is similar to the “predominant” situation in Kazakhstan, for example. There are their “lovers and non-lovers” of Russians. But the majority of the Kazakhs still laugh at those who shout “the glory of Russia” and the “shame of Russia”, having no desire to either fight the Russians or unite. The realities of Ukrainian public "domaydannoy" life were very far from the current confrontation and therefore it is not clear what exactly and for what purpose would be needed "strengthening of pro-Russian sentiments"? 90% of the country had no complaints about Russia, many worked quietly there, went to visit relatives, worked for Russian enterprises in Ukraine, and if we consider that Western Ukraine is uneven in its relations, then what is there, these notorious "pro-Russian sentiment ”, if not“ homeland Ukraine ”?! You can talk a lot about the features of culture, which was rolling toward Ukrainization, but this is a natural process after the collapse of the USSR. In Ukraine, no pro-Russian TV channels or societies were required to open, there was a sphere of Russian media space there anyway, and in Kiev more Moscow channels could be seen than in the Urals! There the same Russians lived! It is the same as to open a pro-Russian society in Ryazan, and in Helsinki-profinskoe ...

Now look at the "time of the Maidan." Media companies are launching mass EU advertising and vehicle denial. For the first time, we hear with shock “moskalyaku to gilyaka”. But even at this moment, the moods of the maydanovtsy themselves are not anti-Russian, but against the power of Yanukovych. Separate groups of Nazis look like an eyesore. Only in the final phase of the Maidan, did they unite with Europe directly to associate with opposition to the whole of Russia. How is this achieved? A large mass of media began to aggravate the situation and exaggerate contradictions with Russia. Russia was first shown as a specimen of the bright enemy of everything Ukrainian. And after the junta's victory, such a vision of the world order became mandatory, with which the newly appeared attack aircraft looked after successfully, first on the Maidan, and then around the country. Any dissent was sharply suppressed, and the “right” was as actively encouraged. It was not very difficult to do this, the technologies were worked out. But even these technologies fail, recent examples are Turkey and Syria. Everything was done in an extremely unprofessional manner, and only the even greater lack of professionalism of the authorities helped the junta. Even so, literally saved the junta from failure!

Probably, if Russia was preparing a coup in Ukraine, it would likewise pay for channels and websites, bribe some officials, conduct active propaganda in the South-East. In this case, a conflict of interest would lead to hot backstage games and battles for each program or detachment of activists with western counterparts. The problem is that Russia did not plan and did not prepare a coup, Yanukovych was quite happy with her, whose victory in 2010 did not take place without Russian intervention in the Ukrainian policy of Yushchenko who did not suit Moscow. So, Russia could not oppose the "puppeteers"; there were no tools except for force intervention. However, until the very last moment, there was no need to pose such a question! The security forces were in complete control of the situation, even despite the direct betrayal of the SBU and the pressure of the West. Even at the most critical moment of the last day, if President Yanukovych gave the order, the Maidan would not have lasted even hours, the media paid by the “puppeteers” would soften the rhetoric under the pressure of an established regime and everything would end up with some compromise with the authorities, most likely elections. Then all the multi-billion dollar expenditure of "puppeteers" would go to the dog's tail. A "protect democracy" in Ukraine, Russia would not allow, as in Syria.

It is this fact of scant chance of success that gives the right to speak about the extreme lack of professionalism of the “puppeteers”. Even the superbly trained “street patriots”, all of their repeatedly tested and proven technologies of coups and provocations, could not even stand up close to the normally organized police forces. The planned flow of anti-Russian rhetoric was obtained only by direct force influence on the media after the junta’s victory, which alienated many. It was not possible to rally the country against the "external enemy" -Russia, under the "wise leadership of the West." The “puppeteers” did not take into account too much, the execution was too lame, the forecast and the reaction of the population turned out to be too erroneous. Instead of the “second Baltic States”, they received a bottomless financial pit and an economic war with Russia, where they also suffer one defeat after another ... Instead of the “Orange Revolution”, there is a civil war with devastation. And this broken Ukraine is no longer worth the investment that was made in it. All hopes associated with it have collapsed and no longer receive any preferences in the military, economic or political sphere.

Russia did not lose the “battle for the Ukrainian soul”, it did not show up for this “battle”, because they did not call there! This “battle” was lost to Ukraine and its inhabitants. And as the losing side, they pay indemnities and give the legitimate “trophies to the winners”. The only state that could really help Ukraine was declared an enemy by the Ukrainians. They will have to pay for it! No, not dead Nazis or patriots, under Russian caterpillars tanksand they will pay with the collapse of the economy, a critical drop in living standards, the complete collapse of the country and population, the disappearance of their culture. They are already paying ... And these are not the problems of Russia and Russians, these are the internal problems of Ukraine. Russia does not yet have the right to introduce its army, nor does it have the right to “fight for souls” in Ukraine, no one asks for it! This right and opportunity lies with the residents of Ukraine, no matter who they consider themselves-Russians, Ukrainians, Europeans, Mongols, etc. .. I like to listen every day about the impending European happiness, please, like every fire in Russia please, please. Only this is your purely Ukrainian choice and there is no need to drag the West and Russia for it. Because Ukraine, which has not met expectations, is not needed in the West either. Only tear out of it all that remains to at least partially offset the costs.

That's the whole "victory of professionals", which looks more like a rout. No goal has been achieved, vast resources have been wasted, the future is unenviable. And the losing Ukrainians are now clapping their naive eyes and asking about Santa Claus. They are completely entitled to their own opinion, but the 24-year-old boy, riding a wooden horse with a wooden saber and sincerely believing that he is “wide Cozack”, causes not affection, but thoughts about the ward in a closed medical institution ...
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  1. Name
    Name April 13 2015 05: 27
    +14
    Welcome all! Respect to the author. For all liberos from the Anglo-Saxons, just right to memorize as "Our Father", - “Russia didn’t lose the“ battle for the Ukrainian soul ”, it didn’t come to this“ battle ”because it wasn’t invited there! Ukraine and its inhabitants lost this“ battle ”.".
    1. Lukich
      Lukich April 13 2015 05: 32
      +8
      Quote: name
      she did not come to this “battle”, because she was not called there!

      still called dragged
      1. Vend
        Vend April 13 2015 10: 02
        +3
        Quote: Lukich
        Quote: name
        she did not come to this “battle”, because she was not called there!

        still called dragged

        And this battle is needed not by Russia, but by the USA. And Ukraine is a consumable.
    2. svetlomor
      svetlomor April 13 2015 05: 36
      +7
      To be honest, the topic "Ukraine" has already gotten out, let them do what they want, we will still win.
      1. Zordan
        Zordan April 13 2015 10: 47
        +5
        Rub for a hundred that then, as Ukraine will be aground and no one needs it, we will be shoved and told to restore it, help the Slav brothers ...
        1. ProkletyiPirat
          ProkletyiPirat April 14 2015 00: 59
          +2
          Well then, Ukrainians themselves will crush this rot for a penny, they will plow 100 times more than they plowed before! And the residents of Ukraine and no one else are to blame!
    3. Finches
      Finches April 13 2015 05: 46
      +7
      Let me disagree with this!
      Beginning in '91, Russia, or rather the Russian leadership, with its connivance and turning a blind eye to the prosperity of Russophobia in Ukraine! Flirting with all kinds of handouts in the form of gas discounts and loans with pronounced pro-American politicians, a disregard for the oppressed Russian-speaking population of Ukraine, etc., in the end, all this led to what we now have!
      1. domokl
        domokl April 13 2015 06: 17
        +7
        Quote: Finches
        Flirting with all kinds of handouts in the form of gas discounts and loans with pronounced pro-American politicians, a disregard for the oppressed Russian-speaking population of Ukraine, etc., as a result, all this has led to what we now have!

        Sorry, but this is nothing more than a call for interference in the internal affairs of another state. The breakdown of the old state apparatus in Russia was bloody enough. And we went through the blood, through two Chechen wars. We also killed civilians, even in Moscow.
        It is probably more appropriate to say not that we did not decide what Ukraine should be, but that an artificially created young state, in the absence of a single people, simply cannot exist without destroying any of the political opponents physically.
        I spoke quite closely with the Ukrainians at that time. Nobody had the same hatred for their fellow citizens that anyone had. It was then that the word crest from a ridiculous nickname (well, bulbash, for example) became a curse word. It was from the lips of Ukrainians.
        There are interesting statistics on money costs. The Americans spent a little more than 5 billion of their rubles on Independence Square. And we 230 billion of their own rubles ... Only we wanted peace on the southern borders. Because we didn’t put pressure. We won’t speed up the story. And they wanted to eat us . And to eat, if not by military means, then economically. Just what we are seeing now. The huge costs of the arms race, to strengthen the borders, to revive the defense complex.
        1. Kite
          Kite April 13 2015 08: 11
          +1
          I would also add:
          We ourselves had a period when everything was falling into the abyss, recently we had the task of simple survival, as early as 2011 everything could go downhill. Only after the Olympics did we feel the joy of belonging to the winning team. Only recently, the majority of the people began to write with pride - Russia, and not Raska (after all, they calmly perceived films and programs where our figures called our country).
        2. Finches
          Finches April 13 2015 22: 01
          0
          Sorry, I could not answer you immediately and during the day, I hasten to answer now!
          I think that you yourself wrote everything in your comment, confirming my thoughts - how the United States turned 5 million Ukrainians against Russia for 40 lard, and we could not keep the population of Ukraine in our sphere of influence for 230? So they didn’t want to, and such a goal was not set! That’s the whole answer!
          Yours! hi
      2. Alekseev
        Alekseev April 13 2015 15: 13
        +1
        Quote: Finches
        disregard for the oppressed Russian-speaking population of Ukraine

        The unrepressed "typical" Westerners for the most part avoided the grave and in the fall of 2014 they fled to Galicia in solid battalions.
        But the "Russian-speaking banderlog" from Dnepropetrovsk, Kuev, Nikolaev actively joined the nationalist battalions.
        How did it come about?
        The conclusion is that not only zapadentsy (and not so much) are banderlogs.
        And it was easy to agitate many, many residents of the Independent Square - they are happy to agitate themselves! yes
    4. Kuznik
      Kuznik April 13 2015 05: 47
      +7
      And as the losing side, they pay indemnities and give the legitimate “trophies to the winners”. The only state that could really help Ukraine was declared an enemy by the Ukrainians. They will have to pay for it! No, not killed by the Nazis or patriots, under the tracks of Russian tanks, but they will pay with the collapse of the economy, a critical drop in living standards, the complete collapse of the country and population, and the disappearance of their culture.
      nothing to add ...
      But how much more blood will be shed for the false ideals created to justify their recklessness ...
      1. i80186
        i80186 April 13 2015 05: 58
        +2
        1. Ukrainians zombie.
        2. zombie all those who consider Ukrainians zombie.
        3. zombified all those who consider zombie, zombie zombie those who consider zombie Ukrainians.
        and. etc. wink
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    6. Zordan
      Zordan April 13 2015 10: 45
      +2
      And then what !?

      Now systematic propaganda among the youth of Ukraine will begin, an ideological enemy is being blinded from Russia and they will invest it all in children. The generation that remembers the Great Victory, space flights and construction sites of the BAM will leave, and in general that's all. Already now the youth of Ukraine is not integrated into the ideology of the "Russian World", and in the future we will get a Russophobic state.

      The result is that the United States, as you would like, isolated the Russian Federation from the Baltic to the Black Sea from Europe!
  2. Lord of Wrath
    Lord of Wrath April 13 2015 05: 28
    +8
    Off-topic, but it really really coincided this year) Well, if no kidding, then the XC Sun
    1. Lukich
      Lukich April 13 2015 10: 28
      +3
      Quote: Lord of Wrath
      Off-topic, but it really really coincided this year) Well, if no kidding, then the XC Sun

      Baikonur. playground number two. 1976 - 1978. seventh group. can someone respond ... soldier
  3. Lukich
    Lukich April 13 2015 05: 30
    +5
    Yes, no need to intervene anywhere by force. the outskirts will cease to exist as a state. themselves and destroy it
  4. Pavelm
    Pavelm April 13 2015 05: 31
    +2
    What a sin to conceal. "Flip or break your brain." We saw the new weapons of mass destruction in action, and they proved to be quite effective. The dirty media has done its dirty work.
    The main thing is that the relevant structures develop an effective antidote.
    BUT looking at the limitations of all NPOs - work is ongoing. The main thing that would be effective
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  5. saag
    saag April 13 2015 05: 34
    +3
    "... That's the whole 'victory of professionals', which looks more like a defeat. Not a single goal has been achieved."

    Well, the author, I would say a superficial look at things, now the Americans have begun to buy all kinds of assets for nothing in Ukraine, rob the country and improve their position. Isn't that the goal?
  6. Zomanus
    Zomanus April 13 2015 05: 39
    +3
    Normal article. In general, I agree with the conclusion. The fact that until the Ukrainians do not want to change their own power and country, we do not meddle there. But Ukrainians, in general, are not yet strongly opposed to the current government. Bandera was equated with veterans of the Second World War and generally normal. Products for punitive anti-terrorist operation at least a little, but give. And so it’s about the little things that the country in general is not against continuing to live like this. Here, in Kharkov, a monument was thrown near the KhTZ, so the workers only wrote a letter to the police and that’s it. So let them still jump ...
  7. Poldol
    Poldol April 13 2015 05: 40
    +5
    Now all the more, no one needs such a country. Let's imagine for a moment that the junta collapsed, the most "pro-Russian" forces came to power in Ukraine, the war ended abruptly, and the Western advisers were driven out. In general, everything became the way we like it. So what? Ukraine will immediately become a normal state? Nothing like this. To restore everything that was killed this year, it will take another 20 years of hard work and huge outside help. America will help, Germany or Lithuania with Poland? Yeah, scattered. Does Russia need it? 20 years to send gumconvoys? No, dear brothers, would you like to work yourself? We will help you as much as we can, but mainly by the fact that we will not interfere with you yourself to earn a tolerable life.
    Something I dreamed about ...
  8. forester
    forester April 13 2015 05: 42
    +2
    When it becomes bad, what does a person do? It may cry, try to fix something, well, at the worst, smear vodka, and these jump from anger and joy. There is no country, no prospects, soon there will be nothing to eat, but these will not go away, all Putin and Russia are to blame for them. The residents of Donetsk and Lugansk are sorry, but these are not at all.
  9. Victor jnnjdfy
    Victor jnnjdfy April 13 2015 05: 50
    +8
    1.Europe wanted Ukrainian migrant workers to spend money earned in Europe in Ukraine on goods produced in Europe + through Ukraine Europeans wanted to enter the markets of the Customs Union through the Free Trade Zone. To do this, they needed to sign an Association Agreement with Ukraine. The crisis ... therefore, with a torn sheep at least a tuft of wool. CU countries (and Russia in the first place), of course, did not want the EU to improve its affairs in the economy at their expense.
    2. Yanukovych and his sons insolently began to squeeze out business not only from "strangers", but already from "their" oligarchs. The oligarchs did not like this at all.
    3. The Ukrainian people did not like any presidents. In fact, they are all p.a.s.kudny, but their Ukrainians chose for themselves. Yanukovych is no exception.
    4. Since over 23 years of independence, almost all Ukrainians have managed to miss ... t, and they want to live like in Europe (I remembered Kravchuk in the early 90s with his "in 10 years Ukraine will be the second France"), it was time to find the guilty and deal with them ... Here is the Maidan.
    5. Yanukovych was afraid to use force to disperse him (the West did not allow it, and the assets of the family, apparently, were concentrated there).
    Russia did not climb into the maydan business in Ukraine. Russia was interested in Ukrainian enterprises, which were included in a single technological cycle from the time of the USSR + guarantees of gas transit through Ukraine to Europe. The enterprises also worked largely because there were Russian orders. (But the current eccentrics in Kiev, by order of the United States, already in June chopped off the branch on which these enterprises sit.) The European Union was just climbing up the Maidan. He needed a market for his products. And then America climbed in, which needed a mess (or rather permanent war) in the middle of Europe in the form of Ukraine, in which their competitors would tumble, and speculative capital would flow into a quieter harbor (USA). That's all.
    And we must remember that even under the USSR, the Ukrainians did not doubt that they were feeding, shoeing and dressing everyone. The saying "klyati m.s.kali all the fat is zyily" since Soviet times.
    In 1991, they got rid of the "freeloaders" and began to study the "true" History of Ukraine in schools and universities. Ukraine, which has always been under yoke, if not the Poles, then the Russians.
  10. Tatar 174
    Tatar 174 April 13 2015 05: 54
    +7
    The aunt in the photo that she wanted to express with an empty upside-down pan on her head ... Is she happy now with what they did with their country? It would be interesting to know.
    1. Poldol
      Poldol April 13 2015 06: 04
      +3
      Quote: Tartar 174
      The aunt in the photo that she wanted to express with an empty upside-down pan on her head ... Is she happy now with what they did with their country? It would be interesting to know.

      They searched in advance for empty pots.
      And Yushchenko, a seer, built monuments to the Holodomor in advance.
  11. VadimSt
    VadimSt April 13 2015 06: 01
    +1
    I used to think that the "professional support of the orange riots" had not a brain in my head, but "porridge", then judging by the upturned saucepan on my head, there is nothing at all, not even a void — bone mass!
  12. moskowit
    moskowit April 13 2015 06: 08
    +4
    Yes everything is correct. Residents of Ukraine wanted to be deceived, and got what they wanted. My loved ones live in Vinnitsa and I have observed this transformation for many years ...
  13. taram taramych
    taram taramych April 13 2015 06: 13
    0
    Ogreb negativity on Monday morning. Didn’t Russia's political leadership understand that it supported a corruption regime? Did it not pamper, and did not encourage spineless Yanuk?
  14. Semenov
    Semenov April 13 2015 06: 16
    0
    A fresh look. However, the junta in power, the Ukrainians do not understand the perniciousness of the new policy and still dream of getting a European salary for free, basking in the sun. Although positive changes in the form of a fall in living standards and memories of Yanukovych are outlined, a break with Russia is slowly coming to the fore.
  15. EvgNik
    EvgNik April 13 2015 06: 21
    +1
    A very interesting article with several unexpected twists and conclusions, which I actually did not think about. Respect to the author!
  16. fomkin
    fomkin April 13 2015 06: 28
    +2
    The topic is really boring, only it is alarming that attempts are constantly being made to change the vector. Let me hint again that in fact the war is being waged against Russia, and Ukraine is an excuse.
  17. Thompson
    Thompson April 13 2015 09: 29
    0
    Quote: domokl
    Quote: Finches
    Flirting with all kinds of handouts in the form of gas discounts and loans with pronounced pro-American politicians, a disregard for the oppressed Russian-speaking population of Ukraine, etc., as a result, all this has led to what we now have!

    Sorry, but this is nothing more than a call for interference in the internal affairs of another state. The breakdown of the old state apparatus in Russia was bloody enough. And we went through the blood, through two Chechen wars. We also killed civilians, even in Moscow.
    It is probably more appropriate to say not that we did not decide what Ukraine should be, but that an artificially created young state, in the absence of a single people, simply cannot exist without destroying any of the political opponents physically.
    I spoke quite closely with the Ukrainians at that time. Nobody had the same hatred for their fellow citizens that anyone had. It was then that the word crest from a ridiculous nickname (well, bulbash, for example) became a curse word. It was from the lips of Ukrainians.
    There are interesting statistics on money costs. The Americans spent a little more than 5 billion of their rubles on Independence Square. And we 230 billion of their own rubles ... Only we wanted peace on the southern borders. Because we didn’t put pressure. We won’t speed up the story. And they wanted to eat us . And to eat, if not by military means, then economically. Just what we are seeing now. The huge costs of the arms race, to strengthen the borders, to revive the defense complex.

    One interesting thing is why we SHOULD play according to the rules imposed on us, and those who imposed them do not adhere to them! ???
  18. alicante11
    alicante11 April 13 2015 09: 46
    +1
    However, until the very last moment, there was no need to raise such a question! The siloviki fully controlled the situation, even despite the direct betrayal of the SBU and pressure from the West. Even at the most critical moment of the last day, if President Yanukovych gave the order, Maidan would not hold out for several hours, the media paid by the “puppeteers” would soften the rhetoric under the pressure of the established regime and it would all end with some compromise with the authorities, most likely the elections.


    Yesterday I still watched "Crimea, the Way Home", somehow it was not before that and came across an interesting fact. The defeat of the Crimean anti-Maidan column was on February 20. And the "last day of Yanukovych" was February 21. At the same time, the convoy left, as it was said, accompanied by the traffic police. What does this mean? That already on February 20, 2014, at least the traffic police did not obey Yanukovych, and the right-wing people felt themselves masters far beyond the Maidan. Because the escorts did not protect the convoy from the attack. The very fact of the departure of the anti-Maidan to Crimea is also very indicative. If they had nothing to do in Kiev, it means that either there was already a victory, or there was already a clear defeat on the nose. It is clear that they no longer thought about victory. It turns out that Yanukovych surrendered Kiev on February 19-20.
    What caused the attack of Berkut on February 18, which almost cleared the Maidan? Obviously, an attack by law enforcement officers and shelling of security forces. In principle, it is logical to stand under the bullets - it’s not even like under the chains of Molotov cocktails. So it is unlikely that the attack was carried out on the orders of Yanukovych, most likely it was the initiative of the Berkut commanders who were not sufficiently supported and could not clean the area completely, since the command had already surrendered Yanukovych and switched to the side of the junta.
    However, what kind of control over the situation in Kiev can we talk about if Yanukovych could not stay even in Kharkov and even in Donetsk?
  19. major147
    major147 April 13 2015 10: 44
    0
    Quote: taram taramych
    Ogreb negativity on Monday morning. Didn’t Russia's political leadership understand that it supported a corruption regime? Did it not pamper, and did not encourage spineless Yanuk?


    And whom to support? They all have it. The mentality!
  20. Leader
    Leader April 13 2015 10: 50
    0
    Russia owes something and someone permanently, as well as about its permanent backwardness in everything, one can almost always hear what historical period you don’t take.

    Russia "has always been backward" and "should always have done this way" - this is solely because of our wealth!
    If we were a poor and small country ...
    Or, if we allowed ourselves to be controlled by a handful of American Jewish freemasons ...
    Then yes! - we would be numbered among the "family of European cultural peoples" - with their homosexual lesbians, impudent immigrants, misanthropic attitude to their own kind, at the same time becoming a "bottomless barrel" from which one could draw practically for nothing for the "golden billion" ...
    And we, "barbarians", all resist this initiation ... we do not give in ...
    That's why, no matter what we do, we will always be to blame!
    "You are to blame for the fact that I want to eat!" (c), Krylov.
  21. sunzhenets
    sunzhenets April 13 2015 13: 59
    +1
    Reasoned, balanced and reasonable. Unusual point of view.
    And I do not agree with the author.
    "Russia did not lose the" battle for the Ukrainian soul ", she did not come to this" battle ", because she was not invited there! This" battle "was lost by Ukraine and its inhabitants. And as the losing side, they pay indemnities and give legitimate" trophies to the winners " . "
    Did Russia win? Did you get a country under your control under the command of the Nazis, subordinate to overseas enemies - did you win? Armed gangs roaming around nuclear power plants are not our problems? Refugees from Donetsk and Lugansk in Russia is this only a Ukrainian problem?
    Do we have intelligence, information and analytics?
    "The problem is that Russia did not plan or prepare any coup; it was quite satisfied with Yanukovych, whose victory in 2010 did not take place without Russian intervention in Ukrainian politics, which did not suit Moscow, Yushchenko."
    The problem is that since we did not cook, then it could not be? The problem is that Russia put on Yanukovych, did not have a backup figure and emergency moves, they could not objectively assess the situation, the embassy arranged a quiet life. And Yanukovych was greedy, but cowardly and weak-willed. And our intelligence moves Americans ... about the ball. and the situation at the end of February 2014 was not controlled absolutely. The move to return Crimea was not a planned action, but a reaction. Good, but not planned.
    1. Noncombatant
      Noncombatant April 13 2015 17: 04
      -2
      Quote: Sunflower
      The problem is that Russia put on Yanukovych, did not have a backup figure and emergency moves, they could not objectively assess the situation, the embassy arranged a quiet life.


      Exactly! I read the opinions on the site here, they say, we have not lost anything. Yeah. 23 years old, America methodically hammered, drop by drop. Russia has decided to follow the usual, "emergency" way of resolving issues. We saw that it was crackling - a million rubles went there, it seemed to have calmed down. And so - 23 years.
  22. Noncombatant
    Noncombatant April 13 2015 16: 58
    -1
    “Many people think that while the American (and not only) billions worked for the anti-Russian forces, those people who were supposed to be responsible for the“ pro-Russian Ukraine ”were inactive or acted very ineffectively and terribly unprofessional. and where is located and what is the name of the "organization" that is professionally responsible for the mood of the people of China or Belarus, Kazakhstan or Turkey?! And many other countries where Russia has permanent geopolitical, military and economic interests. What "measures" are being taken to improve attitudes towards Russians in Poland, Germany or Japan ?! All this is demagoguery! "

    It's a hit. Hunt to cry. This "organization" is the Kremlin. Our country slept through Ukraine. It was not ordinary people who slept, they just very evenly carried out all those activities that are cleverly called "integration": they went to relatives, kept repeating at feasts that we were one people, together they found fault with the "top", recalled the common history. Ukraine was overslept by the fat, polished muzzles of our Katsey, Zilberman, Dvorkovich-Abramovich, who, in fact, do not care about Russia or Ukraine. There have already been articles on the Military Review, where it was clearly written about the absence of a systematic approach to Ukraine over the past 23 years. Out of nowhere, nothing just happens and does not arise.
  23. Prutkov
    Prutkov April 13 2015 18: 18
    +2
    Strange opinion. It is immediately clear that the person is very far from the real situation in Ukraine. More like an attempt to rehabilitate the failed work of Russian diplomats in Ukraine. For the information of the author, until 1991 Maidan Nezalezhnosti in Kiev was called the October Revolution Square. On this square there was a monument to Lenin and a cascade of waterfalls. But in 1992 this monument was demolished with cries of "yak on gilyak". And then on these ruins they arranged "Rock on the Ruins". So the slogan about me and Gilyak was not born a year ago. Probably, the author does not know that Russian is taught in schools as a foreign language; the author does not know how the Russian language was exterminated from the army.