The ex-president of Poland: After the third Maidan, Ukraine will return to the sphere of influence of the Russian Federation

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Former Polish President Aleksander Kwasniewski said that Ukraine could expect a third Maidan, after which the country would turn towards the Russian Federation.

The ex-president of Poland: After the third Maidan, Ukraine will return to the sphere of influence of the Russian Federation


“Putin is waiting for the exhausted Ukrainian people to organize the third Maidan and say:“ Enough of this European dream will come from us, let's talk to those who can really help us. ” And in Ukraine there will be such politicians who will start assuring that there is no other way but to negotiate with Moscow, and the older generation can calmly accept all this, ”RIA says "News".

Kwasniewski also commented on the internal politics of the Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko, in particular, his confrontation with the oligarchs.

“When carrying out such a policy, it is necessary to make painful decisions, and the process itself is very difficult for Petro Poroshenko, because he is an oligarch,” he said.
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  1. +23
    April 10 2015 07: 51
    because the anti-Maidan laws are now in fashion in Ukraine!)
    1. +22
      April 10 2015 07: 53
      Wow! The Pole has seen his sight!
      Nothing, soon Warsaw will again be the regional center of the Russian Federation, and Danzig will return to the Germans.
      There will be an EU in the 3.0 version
      Only then it will be called in the old way: the Russian Empire
      1. +12
        April 10 2015 08: 04
        “Putin is waiting for the exhausted Ukrainian people to organize the third Maidan and say:“ Enough of this European dream for us, let's talk already with those who can really help us. ” And in Ukraine there will be such politicians who will begin to assure that there is no other way but to reach an agreement with Moscow, and the older generation can safely accept all this. ”
        This is true, as is the fact that the Earth revolves around the Sun! And it will be so and nothing else!
        What happened is what will be. What has been done is done. Some will come and say: this is new. But all this has already happened in the centuries before us.
        Ecclesiastes
        1. WKS
          +2
          April 10 2015 09: 22
          Former Polish President Aleksander Kwasniewski said that Ukraine could expect a third Maidan, after which the country would turn towards the Russian Federation.

          And what awaits Ukraine after the fourth, fifth, etc. Maidan? A third will be already throughout the country after which the country will fall apart, at best into large pieces. And at worst, the smaller ones are smaller than in Yugoslavia.
          1. lord
            +1
            April 10 2015 11: 07
            Days of Ukraine as a state are already numbered. Yes, and it is no longer in fact! Southeast will never be part of Ukraine.
      2. +6
        April 10 2015 08: 15
        Quote: Metallurg
        Wow! The Pole has seen his sight!

        do you need a little to write in the "sawed"? Read a couple of recent interviews with him.
        Quote: Metallurg
        Nothing, soon Warsaw will again be the regional center of the Russian Federation, and Danzig will return to the Germans.
        There will be an EU in the 3.0 version
        Only then it will be called in the old way: the Russian Empire

        Believe it yourself?
        1. +11
          April 10 2015 08: 20
          Insight is not yet seeing. This is an opportunity to see objective reality.
          And about RI - I believe. But the RI will not be created by force of arms, not even economically. RI will be created by the power of truth, no matter how ridiculous and pretentious it may sound. The power of replacing "universal" values ​​with traditional ones: family, home, children.
          No, there will be no total justice, but there will be a return to peace when disputes are resolved through negotiations and not by shooting.
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          2. +1
            April 10 2015 09: 30
            Quote: Metallurg
            "universal" values ​​will be replaced by traditional ones: family, home, children.

            We need to continue: family, home, children and the basis of Russian statehood-Orthodox Christianity.
            The Orthodox empire-Byzantium lasted the longest.
            And we have not been able to ruin us for a thousand years.
            Whatever one may say, but we are the last bearers of Christian values ​​and by this we hinder the establishment of their "new world order".
            Russia cannot be torn up for weaning and dividing our resources (human, territorial, natural, etc.) until it abandons its Christian traditions.
            1. 0
              April 10 2015 09: 43
              Quote: ArMax
              The basis of Russian statehood is Orthodox Christianity.

              the basis of Russian statehood is historically a monarchy. And in the fact that Vladimir chose precisely the "Greek faith", there is no historical pattern, except that the political background and admiration for the ritual pomp. He might as well have converted the country to Judaism or Islam.
              1. +1
                April 10 2015 10: 37
                Quote: U-47
                With the same success, he could convert the country to Judaism or Islam.


                Nevertheless, the Russian Empire was based precisely on Orthodox Christianity.
                In history there is no subjunctive mood, what to guess.
                In the face of a thousand years of the Baptism of Russia and a thousand years of the history of the Russian State.
                1. -2
                  April 10 2015 10: 50
                  Quote: ArMax
                  in Orthodox Christianity.

                  in the XNUMXst century is not relevant.
                  1. +2
                    April 10 2015 10: 58
                    Quote: U-47
                    in the XNUMXst century is not relevant

                    It is always relevant, because it is so hated for those who promote Western values.
              2. lord
                +1
                April 10 2015 11: 33
                "the basis of Russian statehood is historically a monarchy."
                You forgot to add: was!
                As for the choice of faith, it is determined not by historical and other scientific laws, but by the Providence of God. However, atheists do not understand this, and it is not their diocese.
                1. -5
                  April 10 2015 11: 59
                  Quote: wavlad
                  and the providence of God

                  universal formula.
                  Quote: wavlad
                  However, atheists do not understand this, and it is not their diocese.

                  funny phrase)
                  1. lord
                    0
                    April 10 2015 18: 45
                    laugh as much as you want. He laughs well, who then does not cry ...
          3. -3
            April 10 2015 09: 44
            Quote: Metallurg
            RI will be created by the power of truth, no matter how ridiculous and pathos it sounds.

            really,
            Quote: Metallurg
            funny and pathos
      3. +4
        April 10 2015 08: 24
        The main thing is that the Russian regional centers by that time should be no worse than Warsaw. So that the roads were normal, at least))))
        1. 0
          April 10 2015 08: 57
          Quote: Samarskiy
          The main thing is that the Russian regional centers by that time should be no worse than Warsaw. So that the roads were normal, at least)))



          And in this case I would have changed exactly the opposite: I would have turned Warsaw into the most seedy regional center, but I would have brought the Russian regional centers to a level higher than the current Warsaw ...
      4. +13
        April 10 2015 08: 35
        Quote: Metallurg
        Nothing, soon Warsaw will again be - the regional center of the Russian Federation,

        Do you need them? So that again in 20-30 years they will sing "Polska has not yet perished". No, let them bend like Ukraine. There is no need for such a "present" for our descendants.
        1. +2
          April 10 2015 09: 00
          Quote: Egoza
          . No, let them bend like Ukraine.

          Hello, Elena ! But in this part, let me disagree with you, or rather, allow myself some corrections to your comment ...

          "Bent" Ukraine, as a factor of instability near the borders of the Russian Federation, in case of failure to achieve the ultimate goal of Washington - "SEPARATING" it from the Russian Federation, may well be a kind of "consolation prize" for the West (they could not, so at least they made a mess) ...
          But for Russia, and Ukraine itself, such a result is not acceptable.
          1. lord
            +1
            April 10 2015 11: 43
            "Bent" Ukraine, as a factor of instability near the borders of the Russian Federation, in case of failure to achieve the ultimate goal of Washington - "SEPARATING" it from the Russian Federation, may well be a kind of "consolation prize" for the West (they could not, so at least they made a mess) ... "
            The US goal is not to separate Ukraine from the Russian Federation (for this it should belong to the Russian Federation!), But to create a center of instability near our borders! It’s even strange that you don’t understand this. The West itself needs the fifth limb as a dog.
            1. +1
              April 10 2015 11: 58
              Quote: wavlad
              The US goal is not to separate Ukraine from the Russian Federation (for this it should belong to the Russian Federation!), But to create a center of instability near our borders! It’s even strange that you don’t understand this. The West itself needs the fifth limb as a dog.

              You and I did not "intersect" on VO, and you are apparently not familiar with my earlier comments on this topic ...

              Take an interest, maybe this your conclusion, it seems somewhat hasty?
        2. +4
          April 10 2015 09: 06
          That's for sure. Tens of millions of PROFESSIONAL youth, both Polish and Ukrainian, WE DO NOT NEED! If Ukraine "collapses", then help only FORMER RUSSIAN GOVERNMENTS, even Kiev to separate, in which for 350 years, everything there is forever "rotting, stinking", Well, about the Westerners in general there is no question, let them bring them down to Poland! Apparently the Poles were worried about this option. they want to shove us all the "waste"!
      5. 0
        April 10 2015 08: 41
        Politicians with the prefix ex, in fact, not everyone is getting smarter! Yes, many are becoming more sincere in their statements and more independent, but there are those who simply, so that they would not be forgotten, say things that are opposite to the political situation! As if reminding your former chefs, they say you do not discount me, otherwise I will go into the opposition and they will stir up water against you there!
        So this henchman of the pin ... in Kwasniewski wants to again become a henchman of the pin ... in Kwasniewski, only without the prefix "ex"! No more! This is such a method for returning to power, as an option! You can lick the anus openly, or you can suffer ostentatious "independence" like this!
        1. -1
          April 10 2015 08: 51
          Quote: Finches
          Kwasniewski wants to again become a protégé of the pin ... in Kwasniewski, only without the prefix "ex"!

          Kwasniewski has no political ambitions. He realized his potential - with him, Poland joined NATO and the EU. This is already enough to rest on our laurels.
      6. +13
        April 10 2015 08: 43
        the Poles saw the light or not xs, but there are no shit yet
      7. +3
        April 10 2015 08: 54
        Quote: Metallurg
        Nothing, soon Warsaw will again be - the regional center of the Russian Federation,


        And the spirit is not needed !!!
        As well as Ukraine as part of Russia ...

        PS The best option is independent, friendly countries of Russia ...
      8. +2
        April 10 2015 09: 05
        Quote: Metallurg
        Wow! The Pole has seen his sight!

        He did not see, he calls to do everything to prevent the 3 maidan. And gunpowder will do it, with batons, tanks. Whatever.
      9. 0
        April 10 2015 09: 34
        Everything is back to normal.
      10. 0
        April 10 2015 09: 37
        Dreams ... Yes, I do not mind. And in the morning they woke up ©. Empires are different now. TNCs rule (or try) the world, governments only voice the decisions they have pushed through. And if it happens to build such an empire, then the sea will spill blood. Our, Russian, by the way. And then feed them again and in half a century again be guilty and occupiers. I would prefer to establish life in the country and see how they flounder in their ram. So who will give us ....
      11. 0
        April 10 2015 09: 38
        Quote: Metallurg
        Wow! The Pole has seen his sight!
        Nothing, soon Warsaw will again be the regional center of the Russian Federation, and Danzig will return to the Germans.
        There will be an EU in the 3.0 version
        Only then it will be called in the old way: the Russian Empire

        Uh, no thanks, no. Let yourself rot quietly. We can do without the Poles in the composition of Russia.
        1. -1
          April 10 2015 10: 17
          Quote: Wend
          Let yourself rot quietly. We can do without the Poles

          Poles rot too? What did I miss???
      12. 0
        April 10 2015 10: 24
        He simply dreams that Ukraine should be destroyed to the ground, and then push its restoration to Russia and at the expense of Russia ...
      13. 0
        April 10 2015 10: 31
        Quote: Metallurg
        Wow! The Pole has seen his sight!

        Yes, no, he did not see. The West is afraid that the third Maidan may follow such a scenario. And in advance who is blamed for this? Of course Putin. Yeah, he’ll go to distribute cookies on the Maidan.
      14. 0
        April 10 2015 14: 31
        Quote: Metallurg
        Wow! The Pole has seen his sight!

        Perhaps he saw his light ... but he didn’t take it into account - there were so many various nits and scum that there could not even hypothetically be near Russia, because they said a lot of things, or were stained with blood. Therefore, all this crowd will inevitably be with them
    2. +8
      April 10 2015 08: 02
      Strange, but for some reason all retired rulers become more aware of the development of events, and when in power their eyes are buried and they see nothing.
      And when they themselves were in power they carried the same nonsense.
      1. +5
        April 10 2015 08: 21
        Isn't this just another proof that the majority of current leaders of states are enslaved to the states. And some of them having found freedom (having left politics) can say what they think.
      2. 0
        April 10 2015 09: 20
        Quote: Moment
        Strange, but for some reason all retired rulers become more aware of the development of events, and when in power their eyes are buried and they see nothing.

        Yes, she, the whole point is that when they are in power, they are dependent on those who raised them there and accordingly carry out their plans and tasks, and when they left office - you can already push your opinion and wish to push the masses.
    3. +2
      April 10 2015 08: 05
      After the third Maidan, Ukraine will return to the sphere of influence of the Russian Federation

      How do you want ?! Ukraine-home! -And you "well-wishers" will be responsible for the suffering of people !!!
      1. +13
        April 10 2015 08: 18
        Here's a good video. Poroshenko speaks in the voice of Muller (film "17 Moments of Spring"). The analogies are clearly visible.
        1. +3
          April 10 2015 08: 25
          17 Moments of Spring - Walzberg (soulful speech)
          Super +
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        3. +4
          April 10 2015 08: 36
          Yeah, the faces seemed to be specially picked up at the auditions. wassat Just a masterpiece - a parody of ourselves. You can watch it like an old Soviet film with stupid and narrow-minded Nazis. Not a single face of dignity - mercantile, baseness, stupid cunning. Country leaders are exactly as they would be shown in low-budget American cinema. These people act on behalf of the great European countries! Ugh! negative Looking disgusting.
      2. +1
        April 10 2015 08: 19
        Quote: Bone
        After the third Maidan, Ukraine will return to the sphere of influence of the Russian Federation

        after the third Maidan, I am afraid there will be little left of Ukraine, maybe the next Maidan will kindle a war throughout Ukraine hi
        1. 0
          April 10 2015 09: 08
          Quote: NEXUS
          after the third Maidan, I am afraid that Ukraine will have little left

          3 maidan will be "crystal night" in Ukrainian.
      3. 0
        April 10 2015 09: 02
        Quote: Bone
        Ukraine home!


        Returning to the sphere of influence of the Russian Federation does not mean the legal entry of Ukraine into Russia ...
        Good, reliable, pro-Russian neighbor - YES ...
        Embittered, plagued by fascist ideology, partisan people in Russia - NO ...
        So let it be independent, but it will not let NATO into itself and will not be a masochist, asking around the clock that Russia come to war and punish her ...
        1. 0
          April 10 2015 09: 56
          Quote: veksha50
          Quote: Bone
          Ukraine home!


          Returning to the sphere of influence of the Russian Federation does not mean the legal entry of Ukraine into Russia ...
          Good, reliable, pro-Russian neighbor - YES ...
          Embittered, plagued by fascist ideology, partisan people in Russia - NO ...
          So let it be independent, but it will not let NATO into itself and will not be a masochist, asking around the clock that Russia come to war and punish her ...

          And what? I agree with your opinion. Apparently the same romantic)
    4. +11
      April 10 2015 08: 07
      Quote: RUSOIVAN
      because the anti-Maidan laws are now in fashion in Ukraine!)

      The third Maidan will happen only if it is properly organized. Who will do it? After all, now even the most dumb-headed in Ukraine understand that the times of the good Golden Eagle are over. The new "humane and democratic" government will shoot without hesitation! On peaceful demonstrators, on women, children and old people. The hand will not flinch - they have already proved it in the Donbass. And the tent city, if one is put up again on the Maidan, will be bulldozed along with the inhabitants.
      The question is - who will be able to organize the 3-th Maidan, and so that it is as bloody as possible? I do not want to answer it here, openly. I think everyone knows the answer.
      1. -2
        April 10 2015 08: 23
        The third maidan topwar promised us in October 2014
        1. 0
          April 10 2015 09: 08
          Quote: 0255
          The third maidan topwar promised us in October 2014

          Our site did not promise you anything.
          1. +1
            April 10 2015 09: 16
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Quote: 0255
            The third maidan topwar promised us in October 2014

            Our site did not promise you anything.

            Last summer on the site there were articles about the fact that in October 2014 there will be a third Maidan
            1. +1
              April 10 2015 09: 25
              Quote: 0255

              Last summer on the site there were articles about the fact that in October 2014 there will be a third Maidan

              Someone wrote an article and you read it. Does it have anything to do with it? Claims to the author of the article.
              1. +1
                April 10 2015 09: 58
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Someone wrote an article and you read it. Does it have anything to do with it? Claims to the author of the article.

                VO announced Maidan-3! laughing
        2. 0
          April 10 2015 09: 16
          I support the possibility of such a scenario in Ukraine, no matter what the year and the people of Ukraine are so bent that they will not accelerate, so it’s urgent to act, but how? when almost half still believes in the junta and that half is armed.
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    5. 0
      April 10 2015 09: 28
      Well, now we are waiting for the third Maidan in Ukraine, at the same time we will find out whether Kwasniewski was right when speaking about this.
      1. 0
        April 10 2015 09: 48
        Quote: Giant thought
        Well, now we are waiting for the third Maidan in Ukraine, at the same time we will find out whether Kwasniewski was right when speaking about this.

        Kwasniewski, in fact, is not
        Quote: Thought Giant
        about it

        so your wait may be delayed.
    6. 0
      April 10 2015 10: 24
      Ukraine. Way home.
      1. 0
        April 10 2015 10: 51
        Quote: HitMaster
        Ukraine. Way home.

        where where?
  2. +9
    April 10 2015 07: 52
    To tear Ukraine away from Russia is expensive for the peoples of Ukraine (poverty, arrests, civil war), sooner or later Ukraine will return to the bosom of Russia. The Great Russians, Little Russians, and White Russians are one people and one story, anyway (the third Maidan or without the Maidan) we will be together.
  3. +3
    April 10 2015 07: 52
    that Ukraine can expect a third Maidan, after which the country will turn in the direction of the Russian Federation.

    Of course he will return, for there is no where to go any further. War, devastation, crisis ... Even the most frostbitten Ukrainians should understand that something is wrong here ...
    1. +1
      April 10 2015 09: 06
      Quote: volot-voin
      Of course he will return, for there is no where to go any further.


      In order for Russia to restore their industry and economy for free? And then everything will start all over again - "Are we feeding the whole of Russia (USSR)?" ...

      PS We have enough of our own problems, and Ukraine is trying to hang our own problems on our shoulders ...
    2. 0
      April 10 2015 11: 07
      Quote: volot-voin
      Of course will return

      will not come back.
  4. +2
    April 10 2015 07: 53
    It is difficult to help someone who does not want this in principle.
  5. +2
    April 10 2015 07: 53
    “Enough of this European dream for us, let's talk already with those who can really help us.”


    And Kwasniewski, unlike other former and current Polish politicians, is friends with his head.
    1. +3
      April 10 2015 08: 24
      Quote: rotmistr60
      And Kwasniewski, unlike other former and current Polish politicians, is friends with his head.

      all friendship with his head fits into several points:
      1. Make reforms, nobody will feed you forever
      2. You cannot defeat Russia militarily
      3. Putin needs to split EU unity. Do not flatter yourself - in addition to the military, he has other methods.
      4. The Crimea theme can be procrastinated as much as you like, but if the referendum took place today, the majority would again be for annexation.
      1. +1
        April 10 2015 09: 14
        For the Polish politician very good points.
        1. -1
          April 10 2015 09: 30
          Quote: rotmistr60
          For the Polish politician very good points.

          for a pensioner. When he was active, he supported the Yugoslav massacre, Iraqi and Afghan lawlessness, plus CIA prisons and so on, on trifles.
      2. 0
        April 10 2015 09: 15
        Quote: U-47
        most would again be for annexation.

        Amendment: a conscious, democratic choice, without any there.
        1. 0
          April 10 2015 10: 24
          Quote: Strezhevchanin
          Quote: U-47
          most would again be for annexation.

          Amendment: a conscious, democratic choice, without any there.

          Well, I'm using Kwasniewski's terminology. In general, in his interviews, he laments that the majority of proxious applicants have gone to the "mainland", and the Tatar minority will not be able to reverse the results in favor of nenki by definition. He gently pushes the koxlov to the idea that Crimea has left the realm of real politics in an unsolvable perspective)
  6. +2
    April 10 2015 07: 53
    Those who remember the truth, honesty, friendship in Ukraine are already old. Old people on the Maidan will not go. And young people in Kiev have already become pan-European, they will not go either. Unfortunately, only the transformation of the ATO into the Second World War will save Ukraine.
    1. Erg
      +1
      April 10 2015 08: 09
      Maybe so. But the fact that the situation is deliberately "frozen" is a no brainer. Test State ...
  7. +1
    April 10 2015 07: 54
    Kwasniewski also commented on the domestic policy of the Ukrainian president Petro Poroshenko, in particular, his confrontation with the oligarchs.


    Petrusha started a war with himself, I wonder who will win.
  8. +1
    April 10 2015 07: 54
    “When carrying out such a policy, it is necessary to make painful decisions, and the process itself is very difficult for Petro Poroshenko, because he is an oligarch,” he said.

    That's it for sure - Bees versus honey. laughing
  9. +4
    April 10 2015 07: 54
    It is high time to "turn the hut to the forest in front and back to the gay Europe." It hurts to look at all this. Moreover, there are relatives there.
    1. +1
      April 10 2015 08: 10
      Quote: dsm100
      It is high time to "turn the hut to the forest in front and back to the gay Europe." It hurts to look at all this. Moreover, there are relatives there.
      "This hut has been standing backwards to Gayrope for a long time and even bent
  10. +5
    April 10 2015 07: 55
    For the third Maidan to exist, anti-fascist organizations must be financed, and generally any associations of adequate people. Or at least for these people to have a sensible leader.
  11. 0
    April 10 2015 07: 55
    Only one thing is bad: those currently in power will not show weakness like Yanukovych.
  12. +3
    April 10 2015 07: 57
    In Ukraine, the PS corps and battalions are the same as the SS in Germany. Therefore, the next Maidan will not be the same as it was. Blood can spill significantly (!) More. Another military failure can destabilize the whole of Ukraine.
  13. +1
    April 10 2015 07: 57
    If you think about it, this is a great way to hit the economy. To impose an arms race and still throw, in the end, a devastated region under restoration.
    1. 0
      April 10 2015 09: 08
      Quote: ZloeZloo
      If you think about it, this is a great way to hit the economy.


      Much more ???
  14. +8
    April 10 2015 07: 58
    They will return, they will return! But their nature will not change, all the dirt that has now floated to the surface is in their souls. Only under the USSR did she hide strenuously, and crawled out after the collapse of the USSR. And if there is a turn in the direction of Russia, it will be from the evil one, it is so necessary at this stage of history, let them fatten us up, shod, put on these "quilted jackets", because they have to do it !!! We are "ukry", God's chosen nation.
  15. Dimka
    +1
    April 10 2015 08: 01
    It won’t be for sure! There, the people are brainwashed ...
    Only the east of Ukraine can still be, but not like the west of Ukraine.
  16. 0
    April 10 2015 08: 03
    third Maidan, after which the country will turn towards Russia

    God forbid.
  17. 3axap
    +4
    April 10 2015 08: 04
    Yes, not only BV Putin is waiting. I’m waiting too. I’m waiting for them to finally sort out their mess without any help or clue. They, I have in mind the mere mortals, cease to see that the mess and chaos. This of course my point of view, but I think that with the next Maidan people will not come to power at all. But after them, can everything be? But honestly, I do not feel sorry for them and I do not care. For half a year they poured on me and my Motherland so much shit that I won’t forgive them anymore. hi
  18. +5
    April 10 2015 08: 05
    C'mon, is it really necessary for this 3 Maidan?
  19. +1
    April 10 2015 08: 06
    the process is very complicated for Petro Poroshenko, because he is an oligarch himself, ”he said.
    That's because pa with where the Polish am ! Here he was fed, watered and gratified, you panic, and he "climbed with a correction" sad , reminded ukroelectorat about the fact that the president has an aligarch request ...
  20. +3
    April 10 2015 08: 06
    Wow! The Pole has seen his sight!

    The most interesting thing is that they see onet when they become exes.
  21. +4
    April 10 2015 08: 09
    Will return of course ... But it’s only looted, bombed .. And do we need it? As soon as we restore, the Maidan will begin again? We are ce neuropa ... bully
    1. -2
      April 10 2015 11: 08
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Will return of course.

      no chance.
  22. +7
    April 10 2015 08: 10
    Ruined geyropa and restore Russia, sewed your ass homosexual damned
    1. 0
      April 10 2015 09: 10
      Quote: koksalek
      Collapsing geyropa


      In fact - the Americans were falling apart ... Babama himself admitted this ...
      1. 0
        April 10 2015 11: 21
        Quote: koksalek
        Collapsing geyropa

        Quote: veksha50
        In fact - the Americans were falling apart ...

        in fact - the hoxles themselves are falling apart.
  23. 0
    April 10 2015 08: 13
    The ex-president of Poland: After the third Maidan, Ukraine will return to the sphere of influence of the Russian Federation

    But is it really bad. bully
  24. +2
    April 10 2015 08: 14
    Yes, it can turn around, but we do not need such a "partner-traitor."
  25. +3
    April 10 2015 08: 15
    If there is anything to return, then certainly not in the form of a separate country. We don't need such a "fraternal" state at our side. And what about the sight, so it is easily miscalculated. The Ukrainians did not manage to cut freebies in Europe, they will return for freebies to Russia.
  26. +1
    April 10 2015 08: 15
    Pshekov listen, do not respect themselves, they will sing like nightingales, and keep the pitchfork behind the back ..
  27. +2
    April 10 2015 08: 15
    Quote: koksalek
    Ruined geyropa and restore Russia, sewed your ass homosexual damned

    Of course, turn around: Ukrainians were sent to the EU, but a freebie needs to be snatched somewhere.
    So the hicks and parasites will immediately "love" Russia.
    1. Erg
      +2
      April 10 2015 08: 21
      There is only one way out - to recapture Ukraine. She cannot be one whole. Everything has gone too far ...
  28. +5
    April 10 2015 08: 22
    Too deep America has driven a wedge between our states. Fraternal and warm relations, which were before, can not be achieved in a short time. I do not mean Donbass. Kiev will forever be a reminder of betrayal to me. I’ll try not to instill this in my grandchildren, but I’m not going to hide from them my attitude to Ukraine.
    1. Erg
      +1
      April 10 2015 08: 25
      All we see is a game of politicians and oligarchs. Specific people. Ordinary people are very sorry. After all, not everyone jumps
  29. +1
    April 10 2015 08: 33
    Quote: Moment
    Strange, but for some reason all retired rulers become more aware of the development of events, and when in power their eyes are buried and they see nothing.
    And when they themselves were in power they carried the same nonsense.

    They have already retired from the trough! The State Department no longer finances!
    Now you can tell the truth, and not repeat after the prompter, you won’t lose your wallet!
  30. 0
    April 10 2015 08: 41
    Yeah! Shorter boots again, the power has changed. Benderaites all in garbage cans, the constitution should be rewritten again, the OUN from heroes to traitors.
  31. 0
    April 10 2015 08: 49
    I like his train of thought.
  32. +1
    April 10 2015 08: 58
    Quote: Metallurg
    Wow! The Pole has seen his sight!
    Nothing, soon Warsaw will again be the regional center of the Russian Federation, and Danzig will return to the Germans.
    There will be an EU in the 3.0 version
    Only then it will be called in the old way: the Russian Empire

    these animals, my grandfather (like many others), freeing from the Nazis, died in polyandia! tsuki thankless!
  33. +2
    April 10 2015 09: 12
    The ex-president of Poland: After the third Maidan, Ukraine will return to the sphere of influence of the Russian Federation
    Putin is waiting for the exhausted Ukrainian people to organize the third Maidan and say: “Enough of this European dream with us, let's talk already with those who can really help us.”


    3rd Maidan is unlikely. Bold and constructive people on Donbass.
    Activebut apolitical fled to Russia or to Europe.
    Blunt and irresponsible "horses"and they will jump until they die - another they have no idea.
    Sadistic militant screamers "Sala-u-hari-or = take-sala" - they will be happy part with lives to the sounds of the bagpipes of the Pied Piper oligarchs and their curators.
    Old people and housewives will sit in corners and silently die out.
  34. wladimir
    0
    April 10 2015 09: 19
    Psheks understood that they would no longer feed Ukraine, they received everything they could from Ukraine. Now let the Russian Federation restore and feed a gang of loafers and crooks calling themselves great Ukrainians
  35. 0
    April 10 2015 09: 23
    Investing something in the Ukrainian SSR or the People's Republic of Poland is a very - very dead - even hopeless - they won't say thank you! -Remember -30 years ago -Soviet tanks were on the Oder -Polyaks - (together with Hungarian Czechs, etc.) - were "communist brothers" - and already in the 90s - became for them "occupiers" - how much gas, timber, metal was pumped into them, and then written off for the "occupation"! -Let them milk their beloved "gayrope"!
  36. 0
    April 10 2015 09: 24
    This is "an objective reality given in sensations." It didn't immediately reach who is who in this life, it will come through the belly.
    "Lace panties and the EU" is great only when pedril-pedophilic "jumps" are planned without a hint of industrial production. The transformation of the country's potential into a systemic "wretched Europe", the transformation into "Russians who betrayed Russians" is going well. The anti-oligarchic financial condition of Poroshenko and Senya is growing.
    It is a pity that in order to realize this the Slavs, although with a "dislocation" in their brains, will have to put a lot of fellow tribesmen in the name of Uncle Sam.
  37. ArchiAntiPendos
    0
    April 10 2015 09: 32
    The news deserves attention.
    Firstly, Lyakh is sincerely frightened by such an opportunity, because then on the blue dream of schizophrenics, to overcome Westernism, put an end to. And the Poles would squeeze him grunting, and would justify themselves by the fact that this:
    1. historical justice;
    2. a symmetrical response to the annexation of Crimea by the Russians, and Crimea, as anyone in Lyakhia knows, even anyone in the entire schizophrenic geyrop, is a historical zone of interest for Anglo-Saxons! And the world geigemon will confirm this not only with her silence, but will also declassify some kind of folder where Catherine sold it-Crimea to them even earlier than Alaska (for an initial installment on an Alaskan loan smile )
    Secondly, if you look at the entire history of this key world-wide superpower, it is permeated with the motive "We will dance inexpensively for both ours and yours." in support of this, I will quote from the original source: “In carrying out such a policy, painful decisions have to be made, and the process itself is very difficult for Petro Poroshenko, because he is an oligarx ". In the first part, Lyakh understands the full severity of the struggle of dill with Russian influence - this is a dance for "ours", and in the final part, a small reference to Parashenko's belonging to the oligarchy, this is in case the Ukrainians really understand everything and turn to what they bequeathed to them forefathers with the verdict "you children of bitches, keep it and increase it," and so, this is Pa for "yours" and so on its entire history.
    And lastly, reading this news, I thought that all the same Geigemon was watching the situation, so the Poles sang as they were "prompted", and the level of the State Department is much higher than the level of Psaki, and then stopped short and agreed with M. Zadornov !!!
    And this is an axiom! laughing
  38. +1
    April 10 2015 09: 47
    My mom says so! So that Ukraine does not happen and no matter how we perceive it, but to restore Ukraine after the war, we will be Russians. I get angry and resist the whole brain from such injustice. But she is 78 years old, she was born in Ukraine and having lived all her life in Russia, looking at the TV crying quietly, I begin to believe it will be so.
  39. +2
    April 10 2015 09: 48
    Forget it. No one will return. There is no pro-Russian fifth column in Ukraine. And Merika grabbed a bulldog grip. The Slav brothers are a little corrupt. They will buy them.
  40. 0
    April 10 2015 09: 53
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: Metallurg
    Wow! The Pole has seen his sight!

    He did not see, he calls to do everything to prevent the 3 maidan. And gunpowder will do it, with batons, tanks. Whatever.

    More precisely, trying to do it, but hardly what it can, there is no power and everything around is being ruined.
  41. +2
    April 10 2015 10: 02
    Maydan, perhaps, only they will be restored again at our expense with you, and even later they will spit in our face and again be declared occupiers. One who has betrayed once faith should not be.
  42. +1
    April 10 2015 10: 42
    Only now, new parasites with their ten-billion-dollar debts are not needed by Russia, let it be better if this foul state of Ukraine falls apart and collapses further into small particles.
  43. +1
    April 10 2015 11: 53
    “When carrying out such a policy, painful decisions have to be made, and the process itself is very difficult for Petro Poroshenko, because he is an oligarch himself”

    Pan Kwasniewski did not agree that Pan Pedro-gunpowder is not just an oligarch, but a Jewish oligarch who did not legally come to power in parts of the former Ukraine and was soaked in the blood of Ukrainians on the cheek. And this is a significant part of its characteristics. negative
  44. 0
    April 10 2015 12: 11
    Quote: Metallurg
    Wow! The Pole has seen his sight!
    Nothing, soon Warsaw will again be the regional center of the Russian Federation, and Danzig will return to the Germans.
    There will be an EU in the 3.0 version
    Only then it will be called in the old way: the Russian Empire

    Danzig (Gdansk) will return only to Russia. And Szczecin and Klaipeda (Memel) will also return, because tens of thousands of lives of RUSSIAN SOLDIERS paid for it !!! This is Russian land mistakenly transferred to the Poles and sprats !!!