The State Duma of the Russian Federation is preparing amendments that will return the full confiscation of property to the Criminal Code

Deputies of the State Duma of the Russian Federation consider the amendments, which will return to the Criminal Code (CC) the full confiscation of property as a separate punishment, reports "Independent newspaper". In addition, to combat embezzlement and bribery, the Criminal Code proposes to introduce an article “sabotage”.

The head of the KPRF legal department, Vadim Solovyov, stated that as a result of a sociological survey of convicted officials, it turned out that they were most concerned about the complete confiscation of property. According to him, the decision to enter it "for the embezzlement of state and municipal property, as well as for bribery," appeared after the arrest of Khoroshavin's funds.

“We realize that if we do not make the appropriate changes to the code and do not return the confiscation, then the overwhelming majority of the property that he had found during the searches will be returned to him,” he said.

The return of the institution of confiscation will also help to eradicate corruption, a member of the State Duma Committee on Civil, Criminal, Arbitration and Procedural Legislation Yuri Sinechshchikov and Deputy Chairman of the State Duma Committee on Security and Anti-Corruption Dmitry Gorovtsov also said.

Anatoly Vyborny, a member of the State Duma Committee on Security and Anti-Corruption, also noted that at the moment Russian officials have “blurred functionality”.

“It is important for us to raise the legal culture and form an anti-corruption model of behavior,” he stressed.

Comments

[Lyton]

It was necessary to do this yesterday and not consider, but adopt such laws.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Let's not pull there ... They steal, sabotage and maliciously smile, even when caught in the arm!

[kot28.ru]

May also not pass such laws, not everyone will benefit from covering the feeders ! They have start yelling about ownership and other delights of civilization!

[Alexander Romanov]

I begin to believe in miracles, although I am afraid there will be such amendments that the wife to whom everything was copied is not obliged to prove her innocence.
In short, we’ll wait and see how it really will be. Even I do not believe our deputies. I probably have a phobia

[23 region]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

In short, we’ll wait and see how it really will be. Even I do not believe our deputies. I probably have a phobia

I probably also have a phobia.

[maxim947]

If only they had not created yet another corrupt body, the temptation would be great when evaluating property

[Andryukha]

If you wish, you can put anyone. As the saying goes, there would be a body, but a case could be found. Here you need clear rules of the game. On the one hand, minimize the loss of society from the inefficient use of public funds. On the other hand, do not kill local initiative. The situation when the local leader does not take responsibility and ANY question is resolved through Moscow is no better.
Everyone understands that any manager always takes risks when making decisions. Which is better: helping young mothers or senior citizens? Or it might be better to invest in the development of individual farms.

[Saratoga833]

It is with such thoughts that they continue to steal bureaucrats, knowing that they can and will give a term (often conditional), but the money stolen will remain! Impunity, actual, only contributes to ongoing corruption and theft! Only confiscation! Other - empty concussion.

[Alexey Boukin]

Every official knows that accepting a bribe threatens to imprison, and refusing it is to be shot.

[goose]

I allow myself to disagree, now the embezzlement is practically derived from the criminal law, therefore, it is very difficult to give a real term. Moreover, the execution, we have an unlimited term moratorium on the death penalty.

[97110]

Quote: goose

Moreover, the execution, we have an unlimited term moratorium on the death penalty.

And they (bribe givers) have no moratorium.

[Alf]

Quote: Alexey Bukin

Every official knows that accepting a bribe threatens to imprison, and refusing it is to be shot.

Refusing anything from a bribe or prison?

[DRA-88]

Quote: Saratoga833

they continue to steal bureaucrats, knowing that they can and will give a term (often conditional), but the money stolen will remain!

President: "Russia has four friends: its Electoral Commission, the State Duma, the Russian Orthodox Church and officials"
And here is how the president has been "fighting" corruption for 16 years:
2000
“We just need a persistent, consistent and principled fight against corruption. I must say that this is one of the most important state tasks in the direction of making our country economically attractive and politically developed. Without the fight against corruption, no progress in the economic sphere is possible, it will not be. And therefore, this has been and remains one of the state’s top priorities. ”

2001
“We will work to strengthen market institutions, and toughly counteract corruption.”

2002
“An important task is the suppression of irresponsibility, abuse of power, and even more so corruption.”

2003
“No country has a chance to fight corruption and develop efficiently if it cannot speak directly and openly about it and start an open struggle.”

2004
“We need accurate and realistic measures - both in the fight against manifestations of corruption, and, most importantly, in its prevention.
“The authorities in Russia have repeatedly and loudly declared the need to fight corruption, whole programs have been developed, and some rather tough steps have been taken, but let's say directly: they, unfortunately, did not give a big effect”

2005
“The roots of corruption are not in good or bad people. They are in the system. ”
“We will definitely move in this direction, strengthening both the effectiveness of the state and the work of law enforcement agencies, which are called upon to fight corruption in practice, in practical life.”

2006
“Corruption is such a thing that, unfortunately, is inherent in modern society. But this does not mean that this should not be fought. The level of corruption may still be different. And with us today it is unacceptably high. ”

2007
“The business climate in the country should be reliably protected from corruption, from crimes in the economic sphere. Such crimes, if they go unpunished, corrupt the society, inflict a serious blow on Russia's reputation as a country with a civilized economic environment. ”

2008
“There is no pill for corruption that I took and recovered; there must be a system of measures; there must be a legal system of measures and a repressive one.”
“Now a group of experts is working on this, and we will definitely adopt an anti-corruption law.”

2009
“There are results in the fight against corruption, and if we constantly hammer this point, we will work in this direction, and efficiency will increase. And vice versa, if you do nothing, don’t talk about it, it will only get worse.

2010
“We will consistently carry out anti-corruption work, severely punish unscrupulous officials, continue to“ clean ”the legislation, and eliminate the very possibility of corruption.”

2011
"We will fight corruption in a consistent, persistent and tough manner, campaigning is unacceptable here."

2012
“In the fight against corruption, we will go to the end, regardless of the face, and within the framework of the law.”
And nothing has changed. this is called an IDB. And the chunushi are getting fatter, and more and more oligarchs are replenishing the lists of "Forbes"

[provincial]

Ask this question to Putin 16.04.

[DRA-88]

Quote: provincial

Ask this question to Putin 16.04.

this question will not be in a "trend" or the next "must", "we will", "presumption" like, in general, in the comment above, the president answered all the questions.

[Alf]

Quote: DRA-88

President: "Russia has four friends: its Electoral Commission, the State Duma, the Russian Orthodox Church and officials"
And here is how the president has been "fighting" corruption for 16 years:
2000
“We just need a persistent, consistent and principled fight against corruption.”
2001
“We will work to strengthen market institutions, and toughly counteract corruption.”
2002
“An important task is the suppression of irresponsibility, abuse of power, and even more so corruption.”
2003
“No country has a chance to fight corruption and develop efficiently if it cannot speak directly and openly about it and start an open struggle.”
2004
“We need accurate and realistic measures - both in the fight against manifestations of corruption, and, most importantly, in its prevention.
2005
“The roots of corruption are not in good or bad people. They are in the system. ”
2006
“Corruption is such a thing that, unfortunately, is inherent in modern society.”
2007
“The business climate in the country should be reliably protected from corruption.
2008
“There is no pill for corruption that I took and recovered; there must be a system of measures; there must be a legal system of measures and a repressive one.”
2009
"There are results in the fight against corruption."
2010
“We will consistently conduct anti-corruption work,”
2011
"We will fight corruption in a consistent, persistent and tough manner, campaigning is unacceptable here."
2012
“In the fight against corruption, we will go to the end, regardless of the face, and within the framework of the law.”
And nothing has changed. this is called an IDB. And the chunushi are getting fatter, and more and more oligarchs are replenishing the lists of "Forbes"

Sema, they are going to fight corruption.
Abram, I'm still scared. If an official used to take 1000, while fighting he began to take 10000, then I still can’t imagine how much the official will take when they defeat corruption.

[mole]

Quote: Saratoga833

It is with such thoughts that they continue to steal bureaucrats, knowing that they can and will give a term (often conditional), but the money stolen will remain! Impunity, actual, only contributes to ongoing corruption and theft! Only confiscation! Other - empty concussion.

Moreover, the confiscation of not only what is executed on the officials, but it is also necessary that on close relatives! For example, how would the brother of the embezzler look at confiscation if he himself was not involved in the crime? Or mom, or dad, etc. What bills will the relatives of the embezzler present after serving? Tough, but then maybe relatives will have some influence !?

[Alf]

Quote: Saratoga833

Only confiscation!

And it’s not just the case, but the wife, granddaughter and bugs. And then it turns out that the wife does not work anywhere or is arranged as a cleaner, and the wife’s personal capital is several lemons, like a meadow, except for a cap, and the wife bursts from bucks.

[vdtomsk]

Meanwhile, Kommersant FM quotes Shuvalov - the economy, despite difficult conditions, is showing good results in the implementation of mobilization measures, such as the nationalization of the Central Bank, is not necessary. The course towards liberalization will continue. I state the general meaning of Shuvalov's speech in his own words. Here is who the first candidate for landing under the article for sabotage! IMHO.

[EvgNik]

Shuvalov is one of the first candidates for complete confiscation.

[veksha50]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

In short, we’ll wait and see how it actually will be that. Even I do not believe our deputies.I probably have a phobia

There is no phobia ... We just live in a time when, let's say, there are good laws, but they, thanks to bureaucrats, either slip, or - do not work ...

Here, too, the danger lies in the fact that to calm the people, the law will be adopted, but in reality it will not work as it should ...

[Alf]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

I'm starting to believe in miracles

The State Duma received a bill consisting of 2 points:
1. Don't steal
2. Do not kill
The Duma is working on amendments.
But seriously, it is not known which party introduced this bill. If the Communist Party, then a little real, but if the EP, then it is extremely doubtful. But they themselves will not step on a delicate organ.

[23 region]

Quote: kot28.ru

May also not pass such laws, not everyone will benefit from covering the feeders ! They have start yelling about ownership and other delights of civilization!

State Duma deputy Ponomarev (was the only one AGAINST CRIMEA joining the Russian Federation, three did not vote).
-But with ordinary deputies, including those not from my faction, I talked. They have two points of view. First, they say, "you alone voted the wrong way, but they will think that the entire" Fair Russia "is against the entry of Crimea into the Russian Federation."

Second point of view: "We, they say, are under sanctions, the threat of confiscation of property in the West hangs over us, and you, bastard, wanted to be clean." There are many people in the Duma who are worried about this topic, they really have factories, newspapers, ships abroad

Deputies of the State Duma of the Russian Federation are considering amendments,

HA HA HA! BEES AGAINST HONEY!

[SRC P-15]

Deputies of the State Duma of the Russian Federation are considering amendments,

The main thing here is not to flatter yourself! I think, deputies create visibility considering amendments! But if this is Putin’s initiative, he will push this decision anyway.

[Alf]

Quote: СРЦ П-15

But if this is Putin’s initiative, he will push this decision anyway.

God forbid, but I recall the ancient, as the excrement of a mammoth, Russian proverb — The strictness of Russian laws is compensated by the non-bindingness of their implementation.

[Sibom]

And without CHARGE! The lawyer Mr. BORSCHEVSKY will have to refund the money, he sold it with a gang of KAZNOKRADOV-the abrogation of the CONFISCATION law!

[goose]

Quote: Sibom

FORBIDDEN FORBIDDEN

An important addition, because these woodpeckers do not know how to do anything in life.

[97110]

Quote: Sibom

Sabotage, Lifelong Prohibition

For such a word, it would be nice to temporarily cancel the moratorium. Well, until Russia has no enemies in the world.

[Alf]

Quote: Sibom

! And for sabotage, it is FOR LIFE-FORBIDDEN to hold leadership positions in ALL STATE STRUCTURES of any LEVEL!

After Rogozin’s words that they would give a real term of up to 12 years for the failure of the defense order, the directors of our sharaga began to go around with some anxious, personal observation.

[Lyubteh]

And we have generally changed.

[ty60]

I will correct you, Barshchevsky. And so, I absolutely agree !!

[Aleksander]

Quote: MIKHAN

Let's not pull there ... They steal, sabotage and maliciously smile, even when caught in the arm!

With whom to argue that -will not be introduced?

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Aleksander

Quote: MIKHAN

Let's not pull there ... They steal, sabotage and maliciously smile, even when caught in the arm!

With whom to argue that -will not be introduced?

This law is already in force, unofficially! In the 90s, the country was suffocating from banditry .. Then the wave swept through the country (2000s) Shoot well (without trial) The quiet became sharp ..! I well remember this time .. Different rumors circulated, but the effect was obvious!

[msd]

With whom to argue that they will not introduce?

no fools ...

[EvgNik]

Most likely they will not be introduced. Almost everyone is smeared. Just make noise, vyyazhivaetsya, the thing will end.

[Alf]

Quote: Aleksander

With whom to argue that they will not introduce?

Who is arguing?

[Finches]

This will be a very long review, and then the project will be sent for revision!

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: kot28.ru

May also not pass such laws

There are fifties, but bureaucrats will begin to hide money more actively in foreign banks (otherwise they will suddenly accept it). I would also introduce such a rule that officials would report not only on incomes, but also on expenses. Although, Luzhkov’s example shows that an official can be a goal like a falcon and the law is crystal clear. The main thing is to have a wife --- a brilliant businesswoman. But you can also be mother-in-law, children, brother-in-law. There is someone to entrust the stolen ...

[Saratoga833]

Quote: Thunderbolt

denyuzhki bureaucrats will begin to actively hide

The task would be clearly set, and you can ALWAYS find the stolen goods! There would be desires and opportunities, otherwise "immunity" works!

[veksha50]

Quote: Thunderbolt

.I would also introduce such a rule that officials would report not only on income, but also on expenses

But this is for the boyars, bureaucrats, corrupt officials - the most dangerous option !!!

After all, elementary: comparing the costs, the question is asked: Why are they tens to hundreds of times higher than your official income ???

PS I have long had such a question, well, sooooo much to many talkers-politicians want to ask, and - not only from the opposition ...

[goose]

This norm is included in the international agreement on combating corruption, which the Russian Federation (or rather the government of the Russian Federation) does not want to sign.

[APASUS]

Quote: goose

This norm is included in the international agreement on combating corruption, which the Russian Federation (or rather the government of the Russian Federation) does not want to sign.

And he won't sign, in general it's all chatter. Everyone can see perfectly well when Vova introduces a "draft law" for consideration, he would like to have adopted it "unanimously" yesterday!

[Alf]

Quote: Thunderbolt

.I would also introduce such a rule that officials would report not only on income, but also on expenses.

When such a law was adopted a couple of years ago, it was completely ripped off from the Amer anti-corruption law. And there was a report on expenses in it, but in our editorial office this article quietly disappeared. Who, where, why, and when-everyone shrugged their hands, looking with crystal-clear eyes.

[Oleg NSK]

This will be a very long review, and then the project will be sent for revision!

... I agree, it will be a very difficult "battle", with a huge number of victims ... because they swung at the fundamental principles of our bureaucratic apparatus ... but even if they do, this is an ineffective decision, just the loot will be distributed between the bureaucrat and the security officer who "took him by the trunk"
... well, maybe they will take a couple of billions away from someone and put them in jail, but it will be a "demonstration performance" for the intractable ...
... without lifting the moratorium on the death penalty, all this is meaningless at best ... they only value life more than money ... their life ...

[Finches]

Raven crow - the eye does not peck ...!

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Finches

This will be a very long review, and then the project will be sent for revision!

This has happened more than once under the previous composition of the Duma. Either they bought up votes in order to fail, or they paid for non-appearance so that there would be no quorum.
Drugan Tolika are ahead of schedule!

[Finches]

Such as Tolik, no law will take!
Here is his sculpted friend, Borenka, who could share an effective method of combating corruption and traitors ...! So to speak, by example!

[DRA-88]

Good morning, Eugene!

Quote: Finches

Such as Tolik, no law will take!
Here is his sculpted friend, Borenka

He has another flat friend!

[Finches]

Good morning!
GDP is rather a hostage to the situation than the culprit!

[DRA-88]

Quote: Finches

GDP is rather a hostage to the situation than the culprit!

Yeah, and Vasilva is a slave of love
After all, too sorry, right?

[Finches]

Vasiliev, this is a trifle and tricks Serdyukov! Ordinary theft, without political coloring! Big gop stop! And for a large gop-stop, even a seasoned felon is difficult to put!

[DRA-88]

Quote: Finches

Vasiliev, this is a trifle and tricks Serdyukov! Ordinary theft, without political coloring! Big gop stop!

This is what you say about the leaders of the top-level country, who most recently were your immediate superiors! And where did the Commander in Chief look ?!

[Finches]

The Supreme Commander did not overlook! In general, we have a country in manual control - they steal at all levels on an enchanting scale! Try to keep track of everyone!

[DRA-88]

Quote: Finches

The Supreme Commander did not overlook!

Can't cope go away!

Quote: Finches

In general, we have a country in manual control - they steal at all levels on an enchanting scale!

And also overlooked
I wonder if the Commander-in-Chief will sign a decree to reduce the monetary allowance of servicemen, will your rhetoric change?
The budget is already undercutting for the defense industry!

[Finches]

Yes, I was in the army, I lived without money at all ... when! They didn’t pay for several months. So they did not live richly and there is nothing to start! I didn’t swear allegiance to the Supreme Minister or the Minister of Defense - I’ll be evil, but the rhetoric will not change!

[DRA-88]

Quote: Finches

I’ll be evil, but the rhetoric will not change!

That’s why I respect you !!!

[ochakow703]

Chatted a good question. Well, how else, Tolyan corefan.

[97110]

Quote: Finches

Here is his sculpted friend, Borenka, who could share an effective method of combating

But he, in the best traditions, preferred to "inspire the personnel by personal example."

[Saratoga833]

And this mug should have been in prison for a long time after the complete confiscation of "acquired by back-breaking labor"!

[veksha50]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

Drugan Tolika are ahead of schedule!

Mdaaaa ... Only this muzzle deprives confidence that the law will be adopted, and if adopted, it will work ...

PS It was necessary to punch another bit next ...

[Dembel77]

Well, glory to you, Lord, at least some joy is miserable for us! If the law is adopted (?), Then maybe the dishonest ladies who are dishonest will be smaller! Such a high-ranking swindler must be fought so that others are not discouraged. I propose for the theft of public (budgetary) money over a million rubles to introduce a mandatory capital punishment and the complete confiscation of property, up to the third generation.

[Oleg NSK]

then they can steal dishonest ladies who are dishonest

... will be more ... because they will have to share ...
... but in general the good news ... the main thing is not to stop here ... otherwise, it will simply turn out the redistribution of the loot ...

[veksha50]

Quote: Dembel 77

all the way to the third knee.

Nuuuu, my friend ... After all, they will say again: the West will not understand us ...

[goose]

Too cool. The capitalization of a person with a salary of 25 thousand rubles is 300 thousand per year. Those. he will earn a million in 3 years. Based on these calculations, you need to raise the bar to a minimum of 3-10 million at the current exchange rate of the ruble.
Or by capital punishment was meant confiscation, or a 7-year sentence with early repayment after 3,5 years.

[Sakmagon]

They will start screaming about ownership and other delights of civilization! ...

Already started. After all, someone has already stuck the cons of the article!

This will be a very long review, and then the project will be sent for revision!

It is possible that it is unlikely ... I doubt that this is a "proposal of the deputies", but behind the Commander-in-Chief I noticed one peculiarity - he will NEVER bring forth divine initiatives, the decision on which will be controversial.

This should have been done yesterday and not considered, but adopted such laws ...

...Yes, yes, of course.
And just yesterday it was necessary to ban the dollar, declare the US ambassador "persona non grata" and deliver an ultimatum to the United States - 24 hours for the withdrawal of their troops from Europe ...
Well, for what our desires coincided with our capabilities!

[Saratoga833]

Quote: Sacmagon

And isho right yesterday it was necessary to ban the dollar, declare the US ambassador "persona non grata" and deliver an ultimatum to the United States - 24 hours for the withdrawal of their troops from Europe

Do not write nonsense!

[Viktor Kudinov]

Confiscation should directly affect not only the corrupt officials themselves and their families, but also all those to whom they "write" their stolen and dishonestly acquired property, hiding it from the state.

[Alez]

It is necessary to return another 25 years for embezzlement, and preferably life-long, if on a large scale.

[23 region]

Game "Favorite Soviet Cinema" (in Odnoklassniki, Vkontakte).

[Simon]

It would also be necessary to add to this law so that embezzlers would sit until they invest everything that was stolen into the treasury, and when they invest, then reduce the term.

[Saratoga833]

After FULL confiscation, it is not necessary to go to prison, but holding leadership positions should be prohibited for life!

[Alf]

Quote: Saratoga833

After FULL confiscation, it’s not necessary to go to jail,

No need to plant! It's just that a bureaucrat, accustomed to a luxurious life after the confiscation of everything "acquired by back-breaking labor", will hang himself on the nearest bitch.

[Giant thought]

The need to pass such laws has long been overripe, but better late than never.

[Saratoga833]

Are going to be "considered"! Yes, it is not necessary to consider, but to accept unconditionally! Or are they very much afraid that they themselves have a snout in the gun?

[podpolkovnik]

Quote: Lyton

It was necessary to do this yesterday and not consider, but adopt such laws.

And let them begin with themselves!

[oblako]

The strongest incentive to life is still death, no matter how you confiscate, you can hide it ...

[Volzhanin]

In no case could such a measure be removed from the Criminal Code.
But some bastard or group of critters did it.
Asks to return this measure a very long time, already squeals.

[Appraiser]

100% agree, impunity breeds permissiveness ...

[Imigrantt]

It was necessary to do this yesterday and not consider, but adopt such laws.

And do not plant !!! What would state employees not feed !!!! And gently shoot through !!!!

[Dezinto]

Oooh this is progress!

This is a purely elemental way to deal with the problem.

Official stealing ------- afraid to lose stolen goods!

[Same lech]

The State Duma of the Russian Federation is preparing amendments

So far, this is only at the level of discussion ... after making amendments, it is not known what progress will turn out .... still, to punish oneself is too much.

[Alf]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

still punish yourself is too much.

I’ve periodically raised my own ... I’m hooking it up. How will you fight with yourself there? I wonder who will win? Angry, but silent.

[Motherland Russia]

It's time.
He who steals must be aware that he will lose everything, and rightly so.

[Dryuya2]

I don’t understand why the accounts of "THESE" are not arrested? while they are under investigation.
"man" sits in his 13-room "prison" uses almost all the benefits of civilization - the money from where from stolen ??
maybe all the same at their expense and - "crosses", "butyrka", lefortovo, etc. ?

[DRA-88]

Greetings!

Quote: Dryuya2

I don’t understand why the accounts of "THESE" are not arrested? while they are under investigation.

And this is to have time to take out the money for the hill.

[ALEXX.]

That's right. Confiscation must be feared.

[Basarev]

And not just the thief personally. All relatives to the last knee should have an absolute withdrawal. Neither a stake nor a yard, and even a rolling ball.

[Twice RUSSIAN]

Damn, but that this measure still does not work. It is obvious that the most effective against corruption is confiscation.

[avvg]

It is high time to conduct an additional measure of punishment for the complete confiscation of property obtained with criminal means.

[Stalnov I.P.]

And as with those close to the body, they will be confiscated from them, or as with the TABOO, they will grind everything.

[kursk87]

The inevitability of punishment is what all corrupt officials fear. In Russia, they most often come out dry from the water.

[nadezhiva]

Quote: kursk87

The inevitability of punishment is what all corrupt officials fear. In Russia, they most often come out dry from the water.

In Russia, they receive ridiculous sentences, often suspended. And at the same time remain with "acquired back-breaking labor."
But if EVERYTHING "acquired" is taken away, a fine + a ban on holding a number of positions will be thrown .... At least some fear of people will return.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

the profession of "head chairman" will be in demand ...

[veksha50]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

profession will be in demand "zits. chairman"...

In the 37th year, it did not fail, and even up to the 53rd ...

Cynically speaking, this rottenness cannot be deduced without a new oprichnina ...

PS Although I do not want the oprichnins, there are flakes and woods there ... Although I personally have nothing to fear ...

[podpolkovnik]

Quote: veksha50

Cynically speaking, this rottenness cannot be deduced without a new oprichnina ...

[ty60]

The pound sat under Alexander the 3rd Peacemaker, under Nicholas the 2nd Bloody .....

[Dezinto]

I feel in this thread most of the comments will be - "It's high time" and "It was necessary before."

Good afternoon comrades. I agree.

[fomeich]

This had to be done for a long time !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Flinky]

I support. Moreover, confiscation is not only from him, but also from all close relatives.

[the righteous]

Confiscation of property not only from those caught for embezzlement and bribes, but also from all the next of kin. And after serving time, everyone should be obliged to report on what he lives and how he lives, and supervisors are required to verify this.

[fomkin]

Most likely this bill is torpedoed. Corruptionists will not fight with themselves. It is enough to analyze the high-profile scandals of recent years.

[Ivan Slavyanin]

Will 18-20 year old children also be taken away? After all, they obviously did not have the opportunity to save up for palaces and apartments on their own! And then 20 years and already the owner of the enterprise, yachts, houses, etc.

[Saratoga833]

In Russian conditions, it’s very difficult to earn money for an honestly working person, either for apartments or for palaces! Especially in 18-20 years!

[ty60]

But this already speaks for itself! And there won’t be a zero per mille - as far as confiscations are concerned, there’s nothing to be bought off of the nuts, and there’sn’t enough gasoline ...

[sazhka4]

This is for new thieves. And the old ones have already been forgiven, well, if not yet, then by May 9 they will definitely amnesty.

[veksha50]

Quote: sazhka4

This is for new thieves. And the old ones have already been forgiven, well, if not yet, then by May 9 they will definitely amnesty.

Ugh on you! Such a morning positive spoiled ...

PS Although, most likely, they told the truth ...

[Supervisor-63]

Laws are actually enough, and their application to hell. The Minister of Defense stole (or condoned theft) for several years, but no one answered. The governor stole several years, and the head of the regional Ministry of Internal Affairs, the head of the FSB of the region, the prosecutor calmly sit still. Until an objective assessment is given to the heads of power structures, to the flesh before the criminal, this mess will continue, no matter what laws are written.

[podpolkovnik]

Quote: Supervisor-63

Laws are actually enough, and their application to hell. The Minister of Defense stole (or condoned theft) for several years, but no one answered. The governor stole several years, and the head of the regional Ministry of Internal Affairs, the head of the FSB of the region, the prosecutor calmly sit still. Until an objective assessment is given to the heads of power structures, to the flesh before the criminal, this mess will continue, no matter what laws are written.

There is only one way out ...

[Mother Theresa]

Bullshit, our officials are all very wimps they have nothing but wives and sons and other relatives who are all successful businessmen and owners of decent fortunes and solid property.

[Dezinto]

In the photo, not the bills that "they" take ...

Which country now owes the most money to the whole world ?????????

And which country wants you (the official) to forget about it?

[beer-youk]

These amendments, among other things, are an indicator of the authorities' desire to fight corruption. If they do not pass, then all this struggle is only in words!

[maxxdesign]

still need to introduce confiscation for treason! and take everything from the Sabbath and bulk!

[Decathlon]

Then the question is: what if the State Duma does not accept the draft law ?! Well, it will not accept everything, considering it "premature" and "irrelevant" ?! It's easier to find pussies on banknotes and not endanger everything "that is acquired by overwork!"

[veksha50]

Quote: Decathlon

But if the State Duma does not accept the draft law?

In general, according to the mind and the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the President has the opportunity to resolve this issue by his Decree ....

I think that the lawyers present at the forum will confirm my guesses and thoughts ...

PS This idea, even in a nightmare, could not have crossed the minds of the boyars or officials .... So, the initiator is the President ... Let's hope it sells this rotten fence in the Duma ...

[ty60]

I think I’ll just publish it. After the excuses of the Duma.

[Saratoga833]

The State Duma is a whistle for releasing steam. She does not have legislative power, does not have access to the budget. This is only an advisory body, and according to the Law, this same Duma can be dispersed by the President in 24 hours. So only the will of the President determines the adoption of an effective Law on Confiscation! Yes, so that later this Law is not washed up by bylaws!

[podpolkovnik]

Quote: Decathlon

And if the State Duma does not adopt the draft law ?! Well, it will not accept everything, considering it "premature" and "irrelevant" ?!

[kvampaku]

This is good, but you also need to consider the property of relatives of such embezzlers. As practice shows, for the most part, officials rewrite all property to relatives, while they themselves seem to be poor. I consider it necessary to check relatives and establish where they got this property from!

[not Russian]

Finally in the morning a good mood

[lexx2038]

They will not accept such a law. I am sure. I can even bet.

[bulatovvvas]

If these amendments reach the President's approval, and he SUDDENLY confirms, which I strongly doubt, then it is not known what by-laws will be passed to judges for their "exclusive" application! Too influential people "in the fiercest" struggle emasculated the old Criminal Code in terms of economic and financial crimes!

[sunzhenets]

Yes, there would be a desire to apply the law. The Criminal Code has rules that allow at the stage of a preliminary investigation to arrest objects that are an instrument of crime, obtained by criminal means, etc. What is applied?

[Gardamir]

What were you happy about? They will come to you and confiscate, not from officials. Not a single car factory remained in the country, only screwdrivers. But on all channels they are worried that "our" car industry has sunk. They are tempting the population with preferential car loans. Young immature souls will take credits. The government will announce another crisis. The federal bandits-collectors will come to those who collected the loans and describe the property.

[Zomanus]

It’s also not bad for everyone who is involved in mega-projects in our country, for the funds in these mega-projects, to conditionally condemn this article before being approved for the post. That would not be, as in the East. He closed the project without corruption, the article is being removed. He didn’t close, in which he came, in that he left. Everything else is in favor of the state. And by the way, the question about relatives remains open, will this article concern them?

[tolyyn19]

And do not even hope that such a law will pass. Who will make laws against themselves?

[Siberian 38]

It is high time. Just they will not accept these amendments. They will not trample against their own.

[tank64rus]

Anatoly Vyborny, a member of the State Duma’s Committee on Security and Anti-Corruption, also noted that at the moment Russian officials have “blurred functionality”. Their conscience is blurred to the ground.

[dmit-xnumx]

Wow, "bees against honey" live! Is it really starting to reach the parasites. that no money will help them in the "civilized world"? Really analyzed Stevenson's Treasure Island (how the Noble Gentlemen robbed the pirates)? That the existence of all parasites depends on the strength of the organism (state)?

[pts-m]

it’s not clear how adopting laws can defeat the “war” of laws. It is not profitable for these lawmakers to draft and adopt laws that contain transparent articles and cannot be ignored by anyone.

[Million]

Most likely, even if they pass the law, not everyone will confiscate

[Londa]

Didn’t you wait for smart decisions ?????

[Felix-A]

Damn, woke up! This article must be exposed first of all to those who made a proposal to cancel it, then it will become clear who of ...

[ty60]

who is hu .... We know them in the face, by the characteristic color of the hair ...

[meriem1]

It is high time!!!! Otherwise, they will steal according to lawlessness.

[DOBROCOT]

Everything will be as always - "napolshisochki". How annoying this corporate mortgage is !!! It would be better to be silent.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Something I remembered documentary films from the times of the USSR. Court hearings over "plunderers of socialist property" There were really frightened eyes, they understood that they were threatened and not only confiscation ... Now you look at turnips in the lens do not fit, calm smiling faces ... go ... then a suspended sentence and a ridiculous fine ..
It's time to catch the thief ..
Their time is ending.!
There will be no more water like a goose!

[Pomah]

For a long time they were going .... bees against honey ...

[teron]

So soon we will reach the level of "sabotage" and "enemies of the people", but there is not far off the new year, 1937. What were our dissidents fighting for? Why did they destroy the Union and spoil the history of the country? What will happen to our creators and creators? With young decisive managers (like Chubais)? And on the other hand - spit on them from the high bell tower. Let the prosecutor's office deal with them.

[dmb]

It's just like a song. The initiators are all from the "opposition" factions. Well, we need to show them somehow that they are oppositional. And everything will be fine with them. They will not suffer materially, because firmly convinced that the initiative will not work, and gullible voters will see that they are for justice. From the message more amused by the "wisdom" of the head of the legal service. His knowledge of law is not much different from the knowledge of other representatives of the authorities, who carry illiterate nonsense from the screens. If he hadn't skipped lectures, he probably would have known that the law increasing punishment for those who committed crimes before its adoption does not apply, and Khoroshavin can sleep peacefully.

[ty60]

The law has no retroactive effect. Only mitigating.

[Vladimir1960]

If such a law is adopted, it is definitely brought to the Maidan a certain group of the population. Over the past years, a class of large owners has formed in our country. These are usually cynical, unprincipled, decisive people. They will do everything for theirs. Recall the events of the Civil War in our country. They will be supported by world capital, because private property is the basis of their universe. Such a law is most likely not to be adopted or it will be a broken law.

[Thompson]

I think it’s not a ride to ride this law! There is a precedent! And the West itself laughed giving it to us, in ecstasy from sanction!
What did England decide to do with the contributions of our "citizens" ??? And this is almost the same confiscation ..
Ahh! Well, since they can, then we can! So it started ... Let's see how it will be.
But the law is needed; the bureaucrats are completely gone!

[S_Baykala]

Quote: Sacmagon

They will start screaming about ownership and other delights of civilization! ...

Already started. After all, someone has already stuck the cons of the article!

This will be a very long review, and then the project will be sent for revision!

It is possible that it is unlikely ... I doubt that this is a "proposal of the deputies", but behind the Commander-in-Chief I noticed one peculiarity - he will NEVER bring forth divine initiatives, the decision on which will be controversial.

This should have been done yesterday and not considered, but adopted such laws ...

...Yes, yes, of course.
And just yesterday it was necessary to ban the dollar, declare the US ambassador "persona non grata" and deliver an ultimatum to the United States - 24 hours for the withdrawal of their troops from Europe ...
Well, for what our desires coincided with our capabilities!

Plus, the Pathfinder (or did I wrongly translate Sakmagon?)

[Victor-M]

The head of the CPRF legal service, Vadim Solovyov, said that as a result of a sociological survey of convicted officials, it turned out that they were most afraid of the complete confiscation of property.

It is strange that this could not have occurred to the legislators before, without conducting opinion polls of convicted officials. For what, then, all these corruption schemes are being developed by bribe-takers, is it not for the sake of profit, without even being afraid of criminal prosecution, knowing that after getting out of prison he will have everything that he has acquired by "back-breaking labor" existence for a long time for sure. Somehow, April began surprisingly strangely, which is not news, so balm for the soul.

[Enoch]

As a result of a sociological survey of convicted officials, it turned out that most of all they were afraid of the complete confiscation of property.

It remains to clarify, as they say among the people: "And for whom is the law not written?", Ask the "famous" artist Vasilyeva. Again, property is only in Russia or outside its borders, too, but there is Washington's domain.

[Leader]

There will be no shit - no confiscation, no executions!
Not those in power.

[Khagysh]

Will be! Only officials will not be affected.

[loaln]

Honestly, it's disgusting to look at fuss, namely fuss, with officials, bribes. It is clear that officials are also trying to restore order in their home. And it is not surprising that we are witnessing an unhurried run of taxed units that are stagnant and indifferent to their work.
If they, and the deputies, would like something effective, then at least turn to the experience of recent years.
Previously, close relatives could not be directly, and, in some cases, directly subordinate. Well, this is the administrative side of things. In the current socio-economic formation, an administrative resource is only a lever, and the tool lies in the economic plane.
Who prevents the introduction of rules prohibiting relatives of government officials who make economic decisions from running their business in the territory controlled by their relatives. In other regions, please, but near by a relative - no, no?
Nothing prevents this. No, one thing hinders - the feeling of profit among the state themselves, who can restore order. Therefore, it is not necessary to broadcast from the television box in unshakable and confident voices about what you do not want and will never do.

[sazhka4]

Quote: loaln

In the current socio-economic formation, an administrative resource is only a lever, and the tool lies in the economic plane.

"Andrei Konchalovsky and Nikita Mikhalkov, in a letter to Russian President Vladimir Putin, were asked to assist in the creation of a national catering network" Let's eat at home! ", The launch of the project will require an investment of 971,8 million rubles."
http://vz.ru/news/2015/4/9/738955.html

Putin "struggles" with corruption .. Isn't that funny? Or disgusting?

[Sanechek26]

It’s not about the relatives ... Relatives will leave, there will remain godfathers, friends, friends of friends ... Here a systematic approach is needed. In my opinion, the measures that have already been taken are more than effective ... a 100-time fine and an 8-9 year strict worker. The punishment is sufficient. Now it remains to limit the possibilities and desires to pull or take. And for this, it is necessary to clearly distinguish between powers, functions and responsibility for the work performed. Responsibility is not only criminal, but also political and, most importantly, moral. It is necessary to try to revive the institution of public censure. Let them know that if they took or stole, all relatives, friends, colleagues of the wife, classmates of children and so on will know about it.

[slizhov]

Really now wives of officials, can become POOR ???
Nahooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[morozik]

The very law on the possibility of confiscation will already be an incentive for at least some to remain honest... After all, they don’t immediately become corrupt thieves, but start small, and the appetite comes with eating, and if you know that you can eat for a long time and with impunity, then you will do it ... and if there is a possibility of bursting, then you will think about it

[vasyliy1]

Amendments may be introduced, but it seems to me that they will be applied selectively. Otherwise, the property of our entire corrupt elite will have to be imprisoned and confiscated!

[valentina-makanalina]

What about UDO?
Don't we use it a lot?
Yes amnesties needs to be shortened. Review of the case, and then everything that follows from it.

[atamankko]

Ordinary people like this project, but how
there will be a law after parliamentary amendments.

[Leeder]

Quote: Lyton

It was necessary to do this yesterday and not consider, but adopt such laws.

So they will act against themselves, as they say Bees against honey! So they are pulling the cat by the tail, you need a kick from above, otherwise I think such a law will not pass.

[Boos]

Quote: Lyton

It was necessary to do this yesterday and not consider, but adopt such laws.

Well, it’s not easy to twist a “loop” for yourself...)))

[user3970]

I would like to remind you of facts from the recent history of Russia... Remember December 31, FUCK, "I'm leaving..." And who remembers the FIRST TWO DECREES of the newly-minted President of GDP. Let me remind you: 1) Decree on the criminal non-prosecution of the ex-president and members of his family... and 2) Decree of the President of the GDP." On the acquisition of Sibneft shares (owned by R. Abramovich - the wallet of the EBN family) With a market value of $ 127 million, they (shares ) were bought for $13,2 billion with Gazprom's money. And one more thing. Is no one surprised by the amazing unsinkability of the red-haired bastard Chubais? Well, if you consider that it was Chubais who “employed” GDP, after Sobchak came under investigation and GDP remained unavailable in business

[provincial]

“It is important for us to improve the legal culture and form an anti-corruption model of behavior,” he emphasized. Don’t make my hooves laugh. A person is not a chicken, they raise their hands to themselves, not from themselves. Who elects deputies, mayors, governors? Then don't cry.

[Support]

People! You seem to be all adults here, human beings, so to speak, but you believe in fairy tales..... or rather, FAIRY TALES....

[Felix-A]

It seems to me that this law will not pass...

[ivan48857]

They have been talking about this for ten years now, but let's be sincere - they are like their own enemies.

[taram taramych]

"The severity of the laws of the Russian Federation is compensated by the optionality of their implementation." This ideologeme was also born by the “people’s representatives.”

[Mama_Cholli]

As I understand it, first they will give an amnesty to all oligarchs, officials and managers who stole money from people and the state, and then they will make an article for the rest of the citizens? Well thought out...

[Sanechek26]

Quote: Saratoga833

It is with such thoughts that they continue to steal bureaucrats, knowing that they can and will give a term (often conditional), but the money stolen will remain! Impunity, actual, only contributes to ongoing corruption and theft! Only confiscation! Other - empty concussion.

So you look at the current sanctions for bribery. A fine of 100 times the amount of the bribe is not like candy wrappers... Take a million, pay the state a hundred. This is worse than any confiscation, because in order to pay the fine, your property will be confiscated and you and your family will have to pay the rest...

[Sidel45]

It is high time, but it is very doubtful that such “innovations” will take place... The constitutional majority will not allow it.

[spiriolla-45]

ABBALDE....Not even half a century has passed, but our “people’s representatives” have come to the conclusion that the stolen property must be confiscated. Look, you've gained some intelligence, why would that be?

[kuz363]

Empty shaking of the air by the Duma. even if they accept it, Putin or the Federation Council will block it.

[Straight]

The authorities don’t want to really fight corruption, and that’s the problem... They are enriching themselves at the expense of the people, unscrupulously and cynically, for show. But there is still no domestic production and no plans for its construction have been heard. Some absurd oligarchs, in the 21st century, amid talk of freedom and, I beg you, democracy, for which the fans of these oligarchs are desperately fighting. The rope still sticks in just as it did, but they forgot that it also has an end! Sometimes a terrible ending. Then they will again cry into their vests - “..how delightful the evenings are in Russia..” and about inter-rolls..

[Old warrior]

If only the moratorium on the death penalty would be abolished.

[asiat_61]

“It is important for us to improve the legal culture and form an anti-corruption model of behavior,” he emphasized...How is that? Translate from the bureaucratic language into normal Russian. Confiscation, and not only from the swindler, check all his relatives. So that the income merges with existing property and other assets. Leaving relatives without pants, maybe then they will start to think before dragging everything out.

[passenger]

Confiscation alone will not solve the problem of corruption. If we solve the issue as a whole, then after the proposal to return the money to the homeland with a subsequent amnesty, every shock worker of capitalist labor during the accumulation of capital should clearly see the specter of prison, loss of rights and confiscation of property acquired by back-breaking labor. An additional incentive could be an offer to countries where corrupt officials keep money (the competent authorities have the data, believe me) to confiscate these savings if sources of income are not confirmed. Yes, Russia will lose several hypothetical tens, even hundreds of billions, but the obvious export of capital will stop. I think that doing business in the country will immediately become easier.

[nathanael]

The normal practice of replenishing the thin state treasury. Nothing new. Let us remember Sulla with his proscriptions. Ivan the Terrible signing off the property of the executed boyars to the treasury. So, as Livshits said, it is necessary to share.

[colonel manuch]

Another group of deputies decided to promote themselves! This will be chatter for many years and in the end they will chatter! As well as many other useful things. Major officials and thieves should be shot, as in China, so that others won’t be bothered, and their “honestly earned money” should be confiscated from all relatives, matchmakers, godfathers, etc. Then it will make sense!

[NordUral]

How long will you continue to cook?

[Mordvin 3]

Keep your pocket wider. They will introduce it. When the cancer on the mountain whistles.

[wlad su]

They will play until the age of 17.

[fktrcfylhn61]

A thief should sit in jail! And what is stolen must be returned, unless it is also stolen! But a thief must definitely go to prison!!! That is, Russian oligarchs are also thieves and should be in prison! Because they robbed the entire Soviet people, who created the wealth during Soviet times!

[Wanda]

and this will not be enough to be stolen. If confiscation does not cover the losses, but relatives will lose their rights, they cannot hold certain positions, they cannot study in certain places, they cannot live in certain cities...

[takto.onotak]

And it’s time to lift the moratorium!

[Sidel45]

Who would pass such a bill? We have a constitutional majority in the Duma to guard the rights of VIP thieves...