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The analytical program "However," with Mikhail Leontyev 08 April 2015

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However, hello!

George Soros, a well-known currency speculator and educator, earnestly calls for saving Europe from Russian aggression.

The fate of the European Union is being decided in Ukraine, according to Soros in an interview with Die Welt. If Europe continues to remain inactive, Ukraine will collapse, Europe will be flooded with refugees, "after which, Soros says, Putin’s European friends will mitigate anti-Russian sanctions. However, this will mean the end of the European Union as a world and political force." In order to prevent this, according to Soros, everything must be done to support the new Ukraine, "up to a military confrontation with Russia."

Interestingly? We have widely quoted here the March speech of another professional Russophobe Zbigniew Brzezinski, where he sensationally offered to take into account the interests of Russia, which, by the way, to guarantee Russia’s non-alignment of Ukraine with NATO. In fact, it is very interesting what Brzezinski, who remains the key ideologue of American foreign policy, had in mind.

In his speech to leading American geopolitics, Brzezinski called on America to directly participate in the Ukrainian settlement. America’s current response suggests a comprehensive victory, while a realistic approach requires, according to Brzezinski, "focus on what is achievable in the short term, ... because I assume that this crisis will not end with a decisive victory for one of the parties" .
It is ridiculous to think that old Brzezinski loves Russia more than old Soros. Just a seasoned political speculator Brzezinski understands this business more than financial speculator Soros. And he understands that the bet on a victory can be a bit. And here is the most interesting passage of the old man Zbyshek.

"We know the Russian army well enough to understand that it is not ready to wage even a major local war with the West, not to mention a big war. Today’s Russian army is three to four years from achieving readiness to conduct a long military campaign against well-armed army, such as ours, "- says Brzezinski.

So, the realist Brzezinski proposes to negotiate with Russia earlier than these three or four years pass, and on the conditions on which it is possible to negotiate now. Because it’s not a fact that in three or four years these conditions will be more acceptable for America, if at all. Because America offered Russia a very tough test on whether it is a world power, and the old Brzezinski seriously fears that she, Russia, will stand this test.

However, goodbye!
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  1. Same lech
    Same lech April 9 2015 06: 05
    +20
    "We know the Russian army well enough to understand that it is not ready to wage even a major local war with the West, not to mention a big war. Today’s Russian army is three to four years from achieving readiness to conduct a long military campaign against well-armed army, such as ours, "- says Brzezinski.



    Stupid statement .... Hitler counted in the same way (callos on clay feet).

    I considered Brzezinski a more intelligent person ... but now I am disappointed with his naivety.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 9 2015 06: 21
      +18
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      I considered Brzezinski a more intelligent person ... n

      Ha, rare koment, very rare lol
      1. Corsair
        Corsair April 9 2015 08: 12
        +6
        Quote: from article
        If Europe continues to be inactive, Ukraine will collapse, Europe will be flooded with refugees


        Something I had not heard from Soros of such calls to anyone regarding Iraq, Libya, Syria ...
      2. Mairos
        Mairos April 9 2015 10: 15
        +7
        He is not just smart, he is VERY smart and VERY experienced.
        1. spiriolla-45
          spiriolla-45 April 9 2015 14: 50
          +1
          And very hating Russia.
      3. Horst78
        Horst78 April 9 2015 11: 02
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov (3) Today, 06: 21 ↑ New
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        I considered Brzezinski a more intelligent person ... n
        Ha, rare koment, very rare

        You should not consider Brzezinski a stupid person. It can cost us dearly.
        1. aleksandrs95
          aleksandrs95 April 9 2015 11: 54
          0
          Brzezinski is a croaking crow that only determines the trend of the movement for the majority. Moreover, narrowly directed against Russia should play a cruel joke with such a policy. Indeed, the undermining of the United States is not from one point, but from many. When they want to deal with us, the main undermining answer is come from other sides. Here it is necessary as in chess, we will hold on to ourselves and undermine the enemy’s forces from the rear.
    2. andj61
      andj61 April 9 2015 06: 47
      +21
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Stupid statement .... Hitler counted in the same way (callos on clay feet).

      I considered Brzezinski a more intelligent person ... but now I am disappointed with his naivety.

      Brzezinski does not at all consider Russia a colossus on clay feet. He believes that Russia
      not even ready to wage a major local war with the West, not to mention a big war.

      The United States has long been preparing for two small local conflicts at the same time - Iraq and Afghanistan have shown that even such small conflicts are given to the United States with tremendous exertion. Z. Brzezinski, speaking of Russia's readiness for war, proceeds precisely from these premises. In addition, speaking of a local conflict with Russia a priori, we mean a non-nuclear conflict.
      Our president says the same thing about us - the rearmament of the army will end by 2018-2020. Then we can speak with the United States from a much stronger position.
      Brzezinski urges - negotiate with Russia now - after three or four years, on these terms, no longer agree! And do you think he is not smart after that? request
      1. bmv04636
        bmv04636 April 9 2015 07: 25
        +1
        Yes, just in three four years the army of "light elves" can strongly degrade even from the current level
        1. Corsair
          Corsair April 9 2015 08: 19
          +5
          Quote: bmv04636
          Yes, just in three four years the army of "light elves" can strongly degrade even from the current level


          Quote: from article
          "We know the Russian army well enough to understand that it is not ready to wage even a major local war with the West, not to mention a big war. Today’s Russian army is three to four years from achieving readiness to conduct a long military campaign against well-armed army, such as ours, "- says Brzezinski.


          So it tends to ask a question to Pan-Mister Brzezinski, whether THEY and HE personally understand well enough, HOW quickly, if "baked", is the Russian army capable of mobilizing (in a broad sense)?
        2. Altona
          Altona April 9 2015 10: 35
          0
          Quote: bmv04636
          Yes, just in three four years the army of "light elves" can strongly degrade even from the current level

          ------------------------
          Maybe ... Because the US army is quite expensive and some of its parts are already being cut due to budget savings ... But this, so to speak, is the most likely scenario ...
    3. hydrox
      hydrox April 9 2015 06: 57
      +4
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      now disappointed with his naivety.

      What naivety is there!
      Zbyshek has always been a pshek in terms of Russophobia and is always ahead of the rest!
    4. Finches
      Finches April 9 2015 07: 07
      +10
      Unfortunately, he, in the assessment, taking into account pure statistics, the combat readiness of our army, is right! I would say that we need 5 years and economic stability in order for the Armed Forces to reach 80% of the peak of their capabilities in fulfilling their mission!
      This does not mean that I have a defeatist mood! It’s just that I also have a little bit of information inside, so to speak! Moreover, no reduction in the military budget is permissible, even a penny invested in the army now plays a role! Changes in ... are still not finished, in short, somewhere the old, Polish lane ... is right, except for one, Russia, in any state, is invincible!
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter April 9 2015 07: 21
        +8
        The army is never 100% ready for war. Even the first mobilized and the attacker, like the German in the 41st. It is important which of the armies is not ready anymore. Afghan and Iraq have shown that Amerovskaya is not ready to fight seriously. And even in Europe - even more so.
        Yes, and for what? For the dill thief junta?
      2. Corsair
        Corsair April 9 2015 11: 20
        +1
        Quote: Finches
        Unfortunately, he, in the assessment, taking into account pure statistics, the combat readiness of our army, is right! I would say that we need 5 years and economic stability in order for the Armed Forces to reach 80% of the peak of their capabilities in fulfilling their mission!

        Do you know the same statistics in the NATO army? laughing otherwise, we a priori agree that yes, the US army is stronger, etc.
        Then questions by what criteria? Where can there be a full-scale war without the use of nuclear weapons between Russia and the United States, territorially? how fast do we and the us army get there? So all this is demagogy and dust in the eyes, the army of Ukropia went out to bomb taxi drivers, women, children, simple hard workers too - and as soon as they met organized resistance they got into a puddle. The US Army is strong only where they can’t be given an organized rebuff and beat up to the ears, where the losses will be minimal. about ISIS how much chatter, but they don’t carry out a ground operation - the vaunted US army is a big bloated bunch, a bunch of bases to maintain fear in banana republics.
        1. Finches
          Finches April 9 2015 12: 22
          +2
          I speak for our Armed Forces, as an active soldier, and I see that we need time to complete the processes that have begun ... That is what I had in mind!
          1. Corsair
            Corsair April 9 2015 13: 52
            0
            Of course, time is needed, they broke it for 25 years, even for 5 it cannot be restored in 10 years without the significant development of science and industry, as well as huge injections of funds. In this regard, we are far from the United States, there the machine prints hundreds of billion rubles, and for these candy wrappers they buy everything they can.
    5. Hammer
      Hammer April 9 2015 07: 33
      +19
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Stupid statement .... Hitler counted in the same way (callos on clay feet).


      Hitler said so not about the Red Army, but about Bolshevik Russia as a whole.
      But the German General Staff and Hitler, including, by and large were right. The red army of the sample of the beginning of 1941 was frankly weaker than the Wehrmacht of the same period, despite the superiority in tanks, aircraft, artillery. And in spite of the availability of technical samples not only not inferior, but sometimes even superior in terms of performance characteristics to similar opponents. Weaker primarily in the organizational and managerial aspect. In the interaction between clans and branches of the armed forces. Literacy and professionalism of command staff, especially middle and junior managers. In the organization of rear support. In the absence of combat experience.
      Therefore, the Red Army of 1941 model perished in the first six months of the war. But the Wehrmacht broke the ridge of a completely different Red Army. Risen from the ashes. Rethinking the burden of mistakes and defeats of the initial period of the war.
      It may not be pleasant to hear, but this is our story. Which you need to know so as not to repeat the bitter mistakes of the past. In 1940, they also said - "from the taiga to the British seas, the red army is the strongest" ... But the 41st put everything in its place.
      Do not find similarities between the periods of 1939-1941 with the present?
      The Red Army, just as now, was not enough 3-4 years for a complete reform and rearmament. Then, just as now, most believed in the invincibility of the Red Army ...
      No matter how pleasant it may sound, but today the RF Armed Forces are inferior in the power of the combined NATO group, led by the United States. Old Brzezinski is right. We are unlikely to win a conventional conflict with NATO. If they rest against the horn and do not pay attention to the level of their losses. And apparently, based on this postulate in our army in a rampart, large-scale exercises follow one after another. Because at this stage we cannot confront NATO technically, but with the proper training of the troops, we can bear such losses that it will make their victory a feast. More likely, it still stops NATO.
      Well, the presence of nuclear weapons (especially nuclear weapons) is of course a great help to us. But it seems that lately, slowly, little by little, it begins to depreciate as a deterrent. The American elite is already so divorced from reality that it lives in some kind of virtual world invented by them. Having come up with a myth about missile defense, about the exclusiveness of the American nation and the invincibility of their army, that they themselves believed in it and are now in a blissful state of permissiveness and impunity ...
      In general, all this is to the fact that you should never underestimate the enemy. But still a strong beast. And hatred is not appropriate here.
      And the old man Brzezinski is a very intelligent man, although he was still one ...
      1. Genry
        Genry April 9 2015 08: 56
        +1
        You are right, basically!

        But here I am not.
        Quote: Hammer
        Having come up with a myth about missile defense, about the exclusiveness of the American nation and the invincibility of their army, that they themselves believed in it and are now in a blissful state of permissiveness and impunity ...

        ABM is not a myth, but an evolving concept. It may, in a couple of years, greatly limit Russia's capabilities. Especially if the Americans manage to complete the missile defense option installed on airplanes (you won’t hit Iskander with it).

        But Russia, in a couple of years, will become the owner of an updated arms fleet, which will take it forward for several years and make enemies seriously worried.

        And in the future ... Our planet, apparently, with all its red-hot heart, supports Russia, giving it the strongest trump cards against its enemies.
        1. Hammer
          Hammer April 9 2015 09: 44
          0
          Quote: Genry
          ABM is not a myth, but an evolving concept. It may, in a couple of years, greatly limit Russia's capabilities. Especially if the Americans manage to complete the missile defense option installed on airplanes (you won’t hit Iskander with it).

          I did not mean the myth of missile defense as a myth of the fact of its existence, but as a myth that the existing missile defense system can intercept Russian strategic nuclear forces with high efficiency. The myth that the existing missile defense can protect the United States from retaliation. What instills in individual power-holding amers. elite a sense of impunity and permissiveness. This is what myth I was talking about.
          And what kind of missile defense "installed on airplanes" are you talking about? Can you give a little more detail?
          1. Petrik66
            Petrik66 April 9 2015 11: 37
            0
            And now Mr. O Henry will tell us about the terrible laser that the Yankees put in the dreamliner and they will shoot down all the warheads of the damned commies.
      2. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 April 9 2015 09: 06
        +2
        And the units that stood in the Far East during the war, and also entered into Iran, was it an old-style red army or a new one?
      3. yehat
        yehat April 9 2015 11: 51
        +1
        there was never a red army sample of 41 years
        was a red army sample 39th
        and there was a pattern to which they wanted to approach the 42nd.
        and in the 41st there were almost 3 million new recruits, untrained and poorly equipped + several personnel infantry divisions.
    6. Mairos
      Mairos April 9 2015 10: 14
      +1
      "-" and that's why. It is not only about weapons and fighting spirit, but also about the state of the economy. Japan also had the spirit and combat experience and an excellent fleet with aviation at the beginning of the war with the United States, but the economy let it down. The United States built ships and aircraft faster than Japan managed to destroy them, and within a couple of years achieved total superiority over Japan.
    7. PROSREOT
      PROSREOT April 9 2015 10: 20
      +3
      mmm .. well, if you recall the history, then the victorious march of the Soviet troops began only in 1943, and before that 2 years of heavy defensive battles and counterattacks, also in the depths of the country.
      Glory to the defenders, withstood!
      I think that it’s not worth repeating this, it’s better to wait 3 to 4 years, to strengthen ..
    8. NEXUS
      NEXUS April 9 2015 17: 32
      0
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      "We know the Russian army well enough to understand that it is not ready to wage even a major local war with the West, not to mention a big war. Today’s Russian army is three to four years from achieving readiness to conduct a long military campaign against well-armed army, such as ours, "- says Brzezinski.

      The United States is very concerned about the rapid rearmament of the Russian army. By about the year 18, the Russian army will be almost completely updated and equipped. In addition, there are many new developments on the way, which amers simply have nothing to beat, such as SARMAT, Rubezh ICBMs, " CLUB-K ", S-500, PZh
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS April 9 2015 18: 15
        0
        ... PZhRK "Barguzin" and so on ... and when all this and much more falls into the troops, while on the way it will also be modernized as in the case of the Yasen-M nuclear submarine (Rogozin said that each subsequent nuclear submarine of this series will be better than the previous one), it will be necessary to negotiate on the terms of the Russian side, and this will lead to the collapse of the United States not only as the only world hegemon, but also as a state in general, as with the emergence of new poles of power and the emergence of new financial systems and alternative currencies, the influence of the United States the global climate will subside and, as a result, old questions about internal and external debt, the return of the gold reserves of European powers, etc., will emerge ... The dollar, losing its significance and power, will bring down the very statehood of the United States.
        Therefore, this racist Brzezinski squirmed. The rat feels that the United States has approached a large state schuher defined by the borders of the United States. hi
        Sorry, the first koment for some reason was half deleted ... request
  2. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 9 2015 06: 05
    +6
    Because it’s not a fact that in three or four years these conditions will be more acceptable for America, if at all.


    I think that today Russia will no longer accept any conditions that are not favorable to it in the event of negotiations with the United States.
    1. hydrox
      hydrox April 9 2015 06: 54
      0
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Russia will no longer agree to any conditions not favorable to it

      And here it is not necessary to approach from these positions: the old man means only the limited autonomy of LDNR and not a penny more - the conflict will smolder, which is what you need!
      After all, it was not for nothing that a month ago the powder suggested that Putin take LDNR to Russia.
      Listen to where Putin sent the powder!
      1. Very old
        Very old April 9 2015 07: 11
        +2
        Quote: Listen to where ...

        Allegedly in exchange for Russia’s consent - Ukraine to be a NATO member

        No, let it remain a MEMBER as usual
  3. Portoss
    Portoss April 9 2015 06: 06
    +4
    Well, the face of Brzezinski! There were such heroes of MTV Beavis and Badhead. Very similar! Look carefully! Something the picture is not inserted.
  4. Lyton
    Lyton April 9 2015 06: 07
    +1
    Two senile, they already need to think about the land, and they are racing with forecasts and advice.
  5. Lukich
    Lukich April 9 2015 06: 09
    +5
    "We know the Russian army well enough to understand that it is not ready to wage even a major local war with the West,

    wanted to check? but you won’t go to war yourself. set others
  6. grog_bm
    grog_bm April 9 2015 06: 11
    +4
    Handsomely!! I don’t know, I don’t watch TV ... but it looks like an old peshek, in Russian speaking "pissing" ... correctly "pissing", and if he "pisses" then all the united states piss ... only Psaka does not piss - she is stupid
  7. Ivan Slavyanin
    Ivan Slavyanin April 9 2015 06: 12
    0
    Yes, he has several billion dollars there and now Soros is afraid for them, because Yaresko wants to hurl everyone.
  8. Name
    Name April 9 2015 06: 13
    +1
    Welcome all! Because America offered Russia a very tough test for whether it is a world power, and old Brzezinski seriously fears that she, Russia, will pass this test.- withstood already no doubt. Isolate Russia failed. We are simpler, people have reached for us. Including Europeans. But. feel
  9. fomkin
    fomkin April 9 2015 06: 13
    +3
    However, Leontyev is right as always.
  10. Sloavaros
    Sloavaros April 9 2015 06: 40
    +2
    Squeeze them out of all the places that we need. Of course, you won’t turn the story around and Bokatin, and Misha labeled, and later, added problems for the country. And these problems are head over heels. Do not know what to grab. But the chicken pecks a seed and will be full. I believe we are going to a just cause!
  11. hydrox
    hydrox April 9 2015 06: 41
    0
    === Because America offered Russia a very tough test for whether it is a world power, and old Brzezinski seriously fears that she, Russia, will pass this test. ===
    Look how the old provocateur spoke! Not only as he wants to equal old Kissinger in importance, but only a Jew with Polish roots is far from a real Jew G. Kissinger, who is a member of the world Prospect, who today can say whatever he sees fit and everyone will listen to him silently.
    And this Pshek, as they say, has a lower pipe and smoke smarter and in addition: what is allowed to Jupiter is not allowed to the bull, and if everyone listens to Kissinger, then the goby does not think that it will receive the same preferences.
    In short, the provocateur hawk in its repertoire has always been famous for its ability to shit on Russia from any position.
    How much does this minke whale want Russia to fly off the rifling and engage in a civil war!
  12. lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus April 9 2015 06: 44
    +1
    "We know the Russian army well enough to understand that it is not ready to wage even a major local war with the West, let alone a major war

    Is the army of the West ready to wage a local war with Russia? I doubt it, for more prudent European, and even some American politicians should understand that such a war will not last long. Poelik will inevitably flow into the phase of a great war, in which there will be no winners.
  13. shishakova
    shishakova April 9 2015 06: 47
    0
    Thank you.
    Speculators understand a lot about their enrichment, and as for politics, it would be better to be silent, however))
  14. cergey51046
    cergey51046 April 9 2015 07: 09
    0
    Wait a bit and the USA will burst.
  15. hunn
    hunn April 9 2015 08: 10
    0
    Yesterday there was an article "Why it is impossible to defeat the Russians." Send Brzez a photo of that kid from the PC, let him think whether our army is ready for war or not.
    1. Petrik66
      Petrik66 April 9 2015 11: 39
      0
      and he will send us a photo of that marine in Afghanistan in pink shorts.
  16. Same lech
    Same lech April 9 2015 08: 12
    0
    Quote: andj61
    Brzezinski urges - negotiate with Russia now - after three or four years, on these terms, no longer agree! And do you think he is not smart after that?


    To consider modern RUSSIA as an enemy ... is it really clever .... although there is clearly some truth in your words, he’s not a fool, but he proceeds from his false premises.
  17. Snowman
    Snowman April 9 2015 08: 13
    0
    Yes, everything is simple. He invested his grandmothers in Ukraine, and they disappear for political reasons - that fucks and vomits.
  18. Supervisor-63
    Supervisor-63 April 9 2015 08: 25
    0
    "We know the Russian army well enough to understand that it is not ready to wage even a major local war with the West, not to mention a big war. Today’s Russian army is three to four years from achieving readiness to conduct a long military campaign against well-armed army, such as ours, "- says Brzezinski.
    I would like to look at the US Army when someone seriously gives them money, and even on their territory. How long will their heroism last? And then they forgot Pearl Harbor ...
  19. Alex uhu
    Alex uhu April 9 2015 09: 13
    0
    I doubt that they will give us these four years for rearmament. Brzezinski’s words can be interpreted as a message to action: we must beat now so that the Russians do not have time to prepare. I want to be optimistic, but I'm getting ready for a big war.
  20. aak
    aak April 9 2015 09: 25
    +1
    Old Brzez did not take into account the main advantage of the Russian army. It is that it consists of RUSSIAN ... It is not given to the bourgeois to solve the most important secret!
  21. Yereke
    Yereke April 9 2015 09: 46
    0
    when will they give this rat a shot with an umbrella? send under the guise of Ukrainian journalists people to him and that it should act only after a month to avert suspicion. After all, the Jews, on the other hand, caught the Nazis and successfully escorted them to the next world, this is the same Nazi just undercover. Give him free rein he would build camps for us on the site of the USSR
  22. MolGro
    MolGro April 9 2015 10: 26
    +1
    3-4 years), and how true is this figure, taking into account the one who voices it?
    Maybe 1-2 years)? Or is it already too late for the United States to do something !?
    this old man is too dreary to believe him)

    PS if it were otherwise NATO would already be led by troops!
  23. major_air_force
    major_air_force April 9 2015 11: 58
    0
    Brzezinski is like a bullshit male - and barks, and wags his tail
  24. EvgNik
    EvgNik April 9 2015 12: 28
    0
    “So, the realist Brzezinski proposes to come to an agreement with Russia before these three or four years pass, and on the terms on which one can agree now. Because it is not a fact that in three or four years these conditions will be more acceptable for America, if at all they will be. Because America has offered Russia a very tough test of whether it is a world power, and old Brzezinski is seriously afraid that she, Russia, will pass this test. "

    Brzezinski already realized that even now it is too late for them. 3-4 years is a hint to the states that it is necessary to negotiate immediately. And only Russia, the Baltic States and Poland do not understand that Russia passed the test. Well, yes, they will never understand this.
  25. kapitan281271
    kapitan281271 April 9 2015 15: 32
    0
    Papa Bush thought the little one was a round id * iota and even then in the 90s he warned that only go * could consider Russia buried forever, he even warned that very soon those who are now in the joys of victory and destruction of Russia will drink champagne very, very unpleasantly surprised, so I would with a certain degree of skepticism relate to the analytical abilities
  26. Frideric1871
    Frideric1871 April 9 2015 17: 44
    0
    in my opinion, the armed forces of the Russian Federation are not inferior to the American, at least on the ground, the fleet is inferior in combat power ... but still let them just drown :)
  27. rat
    rat April 9 2015 19: 05
    -1
    Quote: cergey51046
    Wait a bit and the USA will burst.

    We have been waiting for 70 years now - how long is it lighter?
    The power of the USA is based on excellent labor productivity.
    Although there are problems there - they are solved more quickly than ours.
    Better think about how we can raise our production to a competitive level.
  28. rfv0304
    rfv0304 April 9 2015 20: 05
    0
    Bzezhinsky may not be a completely bad politician (especially for the modern United States), but he is not at all a military strategist or even a tactician. In 3-4 years our army will certainly be stronger, but even now the nuclear power of our country will be enough to "drop" the United States. They must understand that they will have to fight on the territory of the United States, otherwise they are used to the fact that the war is going on somewhere overseas . In order to understand the reality, they just need to compare the moral doh of their society and ours. But apparently, modern US ideologues are not given to understand this. As you can respect, he even just takes seriously the country that J. Psaki represents. They will help everyone there. But if it comes, then we will deal with them!