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"Dependent Ukraine": what will Europeans decide and when will the war thaw

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"Dependent Ukraine": what will Europeans decide and when will the war thaw

The economy of Ukraine hovering between heaven and earth, lack News in the information space, the frozen, but thawing Eastern Front, hidden in Kolomoisky, either in Israel or in the USA, who were given a visa for the first time in a decade for him to watch baseball, are phenomena of the same order.

The events in Ukraine, the destinies of the EU, the USA and Russia, and the future of the citizens of Ukraine and the LDNR, are coming to a bifurcation point - the critical state of a complex social system in which the system either starts the ordering process or becomes even more chaotic. And to predict the trajectory of the movement of countries and the place of their collision, as well as the spread of fragments after it, is absolutely impossible. Too many factors, both overt and covert, influence political decision making. Too many secret springs, compressed to the limit, hidden under the flimsy layers of thin fabric of political reality.

It is obvious that the truce will sooner or later be broken, and the armies that are standing in front of each other in the field will again begin to destroy each other with bitterness and frenzy. This is a fact, as well as the fact that Europe will have to react somehow. The time of sitting in the bushes is passing - now either the Americans will burn European bushes, or they will drive their inhabitants out of the undergrowth and drive for slaughter for the sake of their interests. And the interest, in fact, is unchanged - the world power and the skin of a bear that has not yet been killed.

How the bear will react is not entirely clear. He is extremely quiet and polite for the last month, but obviously he is up to something.

One reaction of the bear, though important, is still of a secondary nature. Much more important is the reaction of European political Papuans who have decided to sit out in their woods and cabins of glass and concrete.

Understanding what they think about the Ukrainian crisis is extremely difficult, but a number of factors still revealed their position:

1. The Minsk truce must be strictly observed. This is shouted from both Paris and Berlin. “Minsk” is sacred for the EU. This is an opportunity to hide in the wilds of forests and not to decide the issues of your future, to postpone the decision under whose Tanks go to bed - Russian or American.

2. Those responsible for breaking the truce will be punished.

However, who is appointed guilty?

There are actually two options: Kiev or Russia. Who the EU will choose is not known for sure. However, a number of grumbling statements indicate that the EU has realized: Kiev is the same bull terrier that the US is holding on a leash, and the saliva from its mouth is already dripping on the faces of European politicians.

Therefore, markers of fluctuation points — moments of unpredictability — are:

The first. The head of the European Commission did not fly to Kiev, and Federica Mogherini, following Jean-Claude Juncker, refused to visit the Ukrainian capital.

The second. Paris, through the media, allowed a leak, in which he accused Kiev of violating the conditions of Minsk.

Third. The OSCE records the facts of the cease-fire violation by Kiev, in particular, the shelling of the settlement of Shirokino by the Kiev security forces. Earlier, the OSCE did not allow itself.

Fourth. European lenders are struck by the arrogance of Kiev, who, in the person of the Minister of Finance Natalya Yaresko, has already decided for creditors the issue of public debt of Ukraine in the amount of 15 billion dollars. It is supposed to be written off. So decided the United States for Europe.

The fifth. In underground storage you need to download at least 15 billion cubic meters. blue fuel, which Kiev has nothing to pay. And Ukrainian officials have not found anything better than how to start blackmailing the EU, demanding money from it to cover its gas purchase commitments. Moscow, on the other hand, has made significant concessions to the EU, trying to convince Paris and Berlin of its good intentions.

The sixth. The potential of anti-Russian sanctions that could inflict a blow to Russia, causing relatively acceptable harm to the EU, has been exhausted. Then only the amputation of limbs, which are branches of the EU economy or outright acts of suicide in the form of disconnecting Russia from SWIFT, which is considered unwise because of too high harm. The sanctions themselves do not work, which was recognized by the European bureaucrats and proved the year of their action.

Seventh. Kiev is preparing for war. Poroshenko boasts new types of weapons, walking in camouflage with a cynical Bandera, officials of lower rank say that Russia (who else, if not she?) Will go on the offensive. Actually, the gun hanging on the stage cannot but shoot, and the soldiers, without war, indulge in meditations that have a negative effect on the fighting qualities of the army.

Eighth. Kiev and the LDNR put things in order in the rear: the ternbat freedom was eliminated (at least in words), and the Right Sector was driven into the framework of the army. Donetsk and Luhansk disarmed all those who did not obey, and even the free left-wing Mozgovoy became part of the people's militia of the LPR. So, handling improved, and if so, then why not take the risk again and send another 1000 soldiers to Valhalla?

Especially since the United States is demanding the defrosting of the conflict: they are tired of playing hide-and-seek with the European elites and their uncertainty over the issue with Moscow. The situation of "neither war nor peace" does not suit them. The goal is a complete breakdown of relations between the EU and the Russian Federation; the imposition of the EU agreement on the transatlantic FTA did not bring success, Putin is not hanged, and Russia, although weakening, is intact.

Because the gun will certainly shoot. Actually, not only the gun, but everything that is larger than the caliber.

But how events will develop after the passage of the bifurcation point and what Europe decides, which nevertheless will have to choose how Russia will react - it cannot be predicted.

Therefore, while the drumming sounds, and convicted by the court Stories lead to the scaffold, it remains only to wait.
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  1. herruvim
    herruvim April 9 2015 18: 32
    +16
    The farther away a resident of Ukraine is from the war, the more he hates the separatists, Russia and Putin personally
    1. pensioner
      pensioner April 9 2015 18: 41
      +36
      Quote: herruvim
      The farther away a resident of Ukraine is from the war, the more he hates the separatists, Russia and Putin personally

      But it seems that as this citizen approaches the boundaries of the DPR / LPR, these feelings noticeably weaken and eventually give way to an irreversible desire to go even further - towards the Russian border, where the border is crossed already in a T-shirt with Putin’s image and nothing else . And no request cognitive dissonance! yes
      1. noWAR
        noWAR April 9 2015 19: 13
        +32
        Quote: retired
        But it seems that as this citizen approaches the boundaries of the DPR / LPR, these feelings noticeably weaken and eventually give way to an irreversible desire to go even further - towards the Russian border, where the border is crossed already in a T-shirt with Putin’s image and nothing else . And no cognitive dissonance!

        this is a visualization of my idea of ​​Ukraine (albeit with a big, not a pity) lately.
        1. user
          user April 10 2015 10: 28
          0
          Events in Ukraine, the fate of the EU, the USA and Russia, and the future of citizens of Ukraine and LDNR, are approaching the bifurcation point - the critical state of a complex social system


          Everyone is waiting.
          Russia began a full-scale civil war throughout Ukraine, to understand what the rest are waiting for on this site is written enough
      2. I do not care
        I do not care April 9 2015 20: 42
        +4
        Quote: retired
        , it seems that as they approach the boundaries of the DPR / LPR, this giant has a noticeable weakening of these feelings

        in two weeks, three times by May, everything will dry up. I feel my heart will be more serious than before ... God forbid make a mistake ...
        1. sergi-i
          sergi-i April 9 2015 21: 03
          +2
          Perhaps the militia will be attached, and not respond to the Ukrainian. provocations at least until May 9th. In order not to spoil the holiday.
          1. Alex250834
            Alex250834 April 10 2015 14: 44
            0
            I'm afraid that dill will not wait for this moment. May 9th is the very thing to spoil everyone. it is in their national spirit.
            as in that joke - how does a Ukrainian differ from a Khokhl and a Jew from a Jew?
            a Jew and a Ukrainian are nationality, and a crest and train are a state of mind ...
    2. sent-onere
      sent-onere April 9 2015 18: 50
      +9
      Soon - Victory Day, the piglet has no choice how to slander - that’s the activation of mucks no later than May 1, although I do not rule out that the puppeteers have no ruins - a kirdyk hangs over the Saudis, but there is a lot of money .........
      1. Owl27
        Owl27 April 9 2015 19: 05
        +5
        Here, too, about Victory Day, I think, well, it’s not they who will if they do not play a dirty trick.
        1. sent-onere
          sent-onere April 9 2015 19: 19
          +5
          Quote: Owl27
          Here, too, about Victory Day, I think, well, it’s not they who will if they do not play a dirty trick.



          I suppose that hostilities will resume on May 8-9. This is in the spirit of the United States and its lackeys from Bandera Ukrofashistii. On May 9, the wedge converged because it is a symbol for our people. In the same way as blood poured on the Maidan on a large Orthodox holiday. The most interesting thing is that the phases of bloodshed have always coincided with important events for our people. I do not think that an exception will be made at the moment.
          1. vasilupovich67
            vasilupovich67 April 10 2015 00: 08
            +5
            The battles continue, today they frighten me at 7.30. The airport again tried to take Spartak. Mortars and D30 hit long and often. The observers again did not observe anything .... During the ceasefire, the days 7 _ 8 were quiet (I didn’t hear the shots nearby) And everyone is lying about the peaceful mood brazenly, no one needs the world, but it's a pity. Nobody asks us, myrrh ...
          2. Andrey NM
            Andrey NM April 10 2015 02: 52
            +3
            Americans have always started and are starting this way. Beijing Olympics - Georgia, Sochi Olympics - Maidan, Victory Day - what to expect?
    3. sent-onere
      sent-onere April 9 2015 18: 52
      +5
      The United States needs a war, ideally - all with everyone (and a monkey - on the mountain!). Optimal - Russia with the EU.

      Europeans thought earlier that this is the Russian Federation with the United States butting for Ukraine. Well, let! Like, the USA will win all the same and the allies (EU / NATO) will also get something from the trophies.

      But it turns out that this is the EU butting with Russia for haircuts for the USA! And not only that, the outcome is not predetermined, so even in the case of a hypothetical loss of the Russian Federation, the trophies will go to NOT the EU! And the EU began to understand this ...
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 April 9 2015 19: 03
        +5
        Quote: sent-onere
        The United States needs a war, ideally - all with all (and the monkey is on the mountain!). Optimal - Russia with the EU.

        And besides, and armed: angry
        1. Revolver
          Revolver April 9 2015 19: 25
          +3
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          And besides, and armed:

          Note the good old Mosin rifle. I wonder where from? Or a photoshop?
          1. vlade99
            vlade99 April 9 2015 20: 39
            +1
            Quote: Nagan
            good Mosin rifle

            In kindness, the main point.
          2. The comment was deleted.
          3. 97110
            97110 April 11 2015 14: 12
            0
            Quote: Nagan
            Note the good old Mosin rifle. I wonder where from? Or a photoshop?

            I did not notice anything Mosinsky there. Take a look at the shutter - rather a Mauser. The stock is more like a hunting rifle. From mosinka only bipod? So the mosquito has no bipod ...
    4. Revolver
      Revolver April 9 2015 19: 14
      +9
      Quote: herruvim
      The farther away a resident of Ukraine is from the war, the more he hates the separatists, Russia and Putin personally

      It of course hutin puilobut where the cookies are handed out for it. And where the bullets are handed out, it’s somehow not up to Putin. JoThe ass is her own, and she must be saved.
      Here's another bad luck, Geyropa visa-free regime as promised, and continues to promise, no matter how you download. And to escape from the grave is a sacred affair, and it seems that there is nowhere else to do, besides Putin, and thank him that he extended his stay.
      Something like that.
      1. hydrox
        hydrox April 9 2015 21: 31
        +4
        Quote: Nagan
        Geyropa, the visa-free regime both promised and continues to promise,

        Don't exaggerate: The EU has unequivocally said "no" to a visa-free regime for Ukraine until the military and economic situation returns to normal.
        You understand that it will not normalize this year and even a simple change of power will not contribute to this - so for another 10 years kakly will only lick their lips on Europe
        1. U-47
          U-47 April 9 2015 21: 47
          -2
          Quote: hydrox
          Do not exaggerate: the EU has unequivocally said "no" to the visa-free regime ... so for another 10 years kakly will only lick their lips at Europe

          Why is this? Moldovans, albeit with reservations, but got such a nonsense, despite the economic backwardness and territorial incomprehension.
        2. Revolver
          Revolver April 9 2015 23: 45
          0
          Quote: hydrox
          until the military and economic situation normalizes.
          You understand that it is not normalizing this year

          Well, I’m saying this - they promised and continue to promise. Well, and that the promise is due - so do not worry, if this condition is fulfilled - there will be another. And they will continue to promise.lol
    5. sent-onere
      sent-onere April 9 2015 19: 20
      +2
      "... a series of grumpy statements indicate that the EU has realized that Kiev is the very Bull Terrier that the US is holding by the leash ..."

      ====================================================================== =================

      The purpose of this grumbling is likely to be, when everything flies to ..., to have some kind of opportunity to declare: "We also pointed out a number of shortcomings! ...".

      He said, startled, and looked apprehensively at the Master.
    6. captain
      captain April 9 2015 19: 47
      +3
      They hate Putin and Russia mainly in Little Russia. It has long been said in Galicia and Volyn that there is no Ukraine beyond Cherkasy.
    7. U-47
      U-47 April 9 2015 21: 15
      +2
      Quote: herruvim
      The farther away a resident of Ukraine is from the war, the more he hates the separatists, Russia and Putin personally

      Suppose that no one there is obliged to love Russia and personally Putin. Neither the first nor the second need it. Calling themselves the salt of Europe, the hohls are added by imitation of its most cloister part - the Baltic states and the Psheks.
  2. rasputin17
    rasputin17 April 9 2015 18: 37
    +6
    convicted by court stories lead to the scaffold


    Not at all!!! Nobody leads them there !!! They jump there themselves and demand fat heroes !!
    1. STOP VOINE 2014
      STOP VOINE 2014 April 9 2015 19: 34
      +4

      In such savages it turned out that it was disgusting and embarrassing to look at Ukraine, Europe was silently boiling from what it had done, only the West applauds ...
      1. sergi-i
        sergi-i April 9 2015 21: 10
        +3
        Hmm, Europe, probably rejoices what cool brothers got ...
        After all, she does not have enough of her adoptive brothers, who burn good cars to good Europeans every Christmas.
        Now, these little brothers will come with such an experience of the people's struggle ...
        1. APASUS
          APASUS April 9 2015 21: 44
          +1
          Quote: sergi-i
          Hmm, Europe, probably rejoices what cool brothers got ..

          Europe is now rejoicing at how normal people have been turned into a "herd" in the hope that they will obey her for handouts.
          Poor essentially taught history!
  3. Thompson
    Thompson April 9 2015 18: 38
    +4
    Quote: herruvim
    The farther away a resident of Ukraine is from the war, the more he hates the separatists, Russia and Putin personally

    Media is strong! The war in Georgia has opened many eyes to this.
  4. zubkoff46
    zubkoff46 April 9 2015 18: 43
    +3
    The analysis is professional. Thank. We wait.
  5. SAXA.SHURA
    SAXA.SHURA April 9 2015 18: 45
    +16
    It is not necessary that this "Russia is weakening, but whole", nothing will weaken, and who does not believe let him check, it is not necessary to powder the brains of people.
  6. pest
    pest April 9 2015 18: 46
    +4
    Yes, Europe froze in thought - which car to enter.
    Well, Valtsman with his pack will do everything that the overseas monkey says. People side him, the main loot.
    1. 97110
      97110 April 11 2015 14: 14
      0
      Quote: pest
      People side him

      And the people side himself?
  7. Billikid
    Billikid April 9 2015 18: 46
    +6
    Wait !!!! The most painful of the senses. The worst thing is how many more lives of women and children are counted by the metronome of expectation? I understand that politics is the most cynical occupation, but is it really so bad in Ukraine that the ukraverkhushka does not care about its people on either side.
  8. STOP VOINE 2014
    STOP VOINE 2014 April 9 2015 18: 47
    0
    Spring is in the yard, it is thawing .....
  9. Mindaugas
    Mindaugas April 9 2015 18: 47
    +8
    Ukraine is currently not able to provide a decent standard of living for its citizens. But in principle, these Ukrainians are already tired, how much can they be saved? To whom they could and who wanted our help, we helped, and the rest do not need it very much, since they ride on the Maidan and endure the fascist dictatorship.
    1. Dmitry Volodin
      Dmitry Volodin April 9 2015 19: 08
      +2
      Did the little dog find the sea? So here you are - V fleet of the USA belay
  10. sent-onere
    sent-onere April 9 2015 18: 48
    +4
    European politicians will argue, chew, and then they will get a call from Washington, and do whatever they say to them. At least that has been the case for the past half century.
    1. sergi-i
      sergi-i April 9 2015 21: 14
      +1
      Some countries are fluttering.
      Turkey, Greece ...
  11. Revolver
    Revolver April 9 2015 19: 00
    +2
    Quote: Stanislavsky
    I do not believe

    The wise plans of the American imperialists are already painted.
    I would have been in the White House Reagan - would have believed, although he did not shine with intellect, he knew how to assemble and direct the team, and he had enough intellectuals and just stubborn conservatives in the team.
    And even if Bush had been there, at least dad, at least even a son, would believe. Without further ado, they recruited mainly those who grinded their teeth even in the Reagan team, although not even in the first roles.
    Clinton I would believe with a stretch. He so easily took away positions from Russia, mainly not because he was so strong in politics, but because the EBN so easily drank them. Yes, and although not very smart, but cunningjothe rear was a liberalist. And his legitimate vixen is even cunningjo... cooler.
    But Obama? First, Ukraine is not paramount in the plans of his administration. First of all, he wants to go down in history as a president who has forged relations with Cuba and Iran. It is easier with Cuba - they were beckoned, and they met halfway, and it would not harm America either. It is more difficult with Iran, for the so-called. The "framework agreement" had to betray not only Israel, but also the Sunni Arabs. And Iran will clearly demand more for a final agreement. Moreover, in Yemen it seems that it will be necessary to stand up for the SA against practically the same Iran.
    And most importantly - well, there are no people in the current administration who would be able to develop such cunning multi-pass plans and even more so to successfully implement them. As Fox News said yesterday, Obama’s entire foreign policy is a chain of failures, and not a single success.

    So that -
    Quote: Stanislavsky
    I do not believe
    1. Altona
      Altona April 9 2015 19: 12
      +4
      Quote: Nagan
      And most importantly - well, there are no people in the current administration who would be able to develop such cunning multi-pass plans and even more so to successfully implement them. As Fox News said yesterday, Obama’s entire foreign policy is a chain of failures, and not a single success.

      ------------------------
      And where do they come from, brilliant analysts and super-wise diplomats in Washington? All the activities of the Bush and Clintons described by you have been focused on total military tension throughout the world. Dad and son Bush bombed Iraq, Sir Clinton of Yugoslavia, establishing a new international format with the right of the strong. Obama got a powerful train of this policy, and well-proportioned ranks of hawks and neocons, for the rest he tried to restrain the excessive aggressive aspirations behind him.
      1. Andrey NM
        Andrey NM April 10 2015 03: 30
        +1
        In fact, all these bushy, abama, psaki, etc. - it's all a screen. It’s very convenient to hide behind idiots, with an idiot what demand? And such impunity continues to spin this flywheel of idiocy. To calm down, they need tension in their territory. Here's how to do it?
        1. Revolver
          Revolver April 10 2015 04: 57
          -1
          Quote: Andrey NM
          To calm down, they need tension in their territory. Here's how to do it?
          No way. Even if I knew the method, I would not say. Moreover, I would stand in the way. Nagan, although he is old, he is trouble-free, and he beats for sure, keep this in mind. It is quite calm and comfortable here, and I want it to be so further.
          And if you want to calm the horses - Kalash is in your hands, the border to Novorossia is open, and the volunteers are not denied militias.
          1. Andrey NM
            Andrey NM April 10 2015 12: 34
            +1
            So after all, it is not the outward manifestation of the disease that needs to be treated, but its root cause. They distributed the main steed of cookies on the Maidan and sat at the head of the table at meetings there. And it’s calm and comfortable with you because in other places for your peace of mind they did it scary and hot. Are you for always being like this in other places? And check the performance of the old Nagan on yourself.
          2. Volzhanin
            Volzhanin April 10 2015 12: 51
            0
            In fact, there are a lot of ways, but you should not touch you and spend money and resources on this. Not long you have to spend time in comfort and tranquility. Destroy yourself, and the rest of the world will either help or will be maliciously watching.
            And we do not want to calm the horses, but the Merikos-Kakuns. We got already bastards.
  12. Altona
    Altona April 9 2015 19: 03
    +7
    Putin is not hanged, and Russia, although weakening, is intact.
    -------------------------
    How to understand "Russia is weakening"? How is this expressed? Do they write such phrases for the catchphrase? There was no need to pay attention to these sanctions from the very beginning, and it is indicative to hang currency speculators, and everything would be extremely calm and the ruble would not be 52, but 22 rubles ...
    1. saag
      saag April 9 2015 19: 16
      +3
      Quote: Altona
      currency speculators hang exponentially

      Quote: Altona
      For a red word chtoli write such phrases?

      Quote: Altona
      and the ruble would not be 52, but 22 rubles ...

      and import again, not import substitution
      1. Altona
        Altona April 9 2015 19: 24
        +1
        Quote: saag
        and import again, not import substitution

        ----------------------
        And where is the import? I am writing about the theses of this publicist ...
    2. noWAR
      noWAR April 9 2015 19: 20
      +6
      Quote: Altona
      Putin is not hanged, and Russia is intact
      It sounds better, but it looks like this:
      and spit what they say or think there.
  13. andrei332809
    andrei332809 April 9 2015 19: 12
    +11
    I would not want to share the ruin, there’s nothing for the Psheks, Hungarians and other Romanians to do there
  14. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli April 9 2015 19: 16
    +3
    Of course I wouldn’t want a war ....
    But if you really have to, I want no one to ever see the states again.
    Maybe then there will be no wars?
    1. ferdiperdozzz
      ferdiperdozzz April 9 2015 19: 26
      +2
      Quote: Mama_Cholli
      Of course I wouldn’t want a war ....
      But if you really have to, I want no one to ever see the states again.
      Maybe then there will be no wars?

      To prevent wars, all you need is to eliminate one island.
      From there, all the hemorrhoids, the whole story speaks about it.
      "The Englishwoman crap" ...
    2. sergi-i
      sergi-i April 9 2015 21: 22
      +1
      States are needed as orderlies in the forest.
      Without filth from the US, our official would have completely unbelted.
      And now it’s kindly expensive to see how our thieves rush about with their money in the west, they don’t know where to go.
      Let the prodigal sons drag the loot home, they have not had time to take away from them there yet)))
  15. b.t.a.
    b.t.a. April 9 2015 19: 19
    +3
    If Minsk-2 fails, what position will Merkel and Oland be in? Of course, the "free western" media will start hanging all the dogs on the DNI and LC. Therefore, the DPR and LPR carried out disarmament. Again, the outskirts are simply not economically able to conduct a long ATO. A blitzkrieg will be needed. If the first onslaught of the DPR and LPR withstand and there will be no next truce, then Kiev is over.
  16. Russian jacket
    Russian jacket April 9 2015 19: 19
    +4
    How the bear will react is not entirely clear. He is extremely quiet and polite for the last month, but obviously he is up to something.

    From the tales of hunters.
    Didu, but how to hunt a bear in a den?
    You find the den, the shurudish in it with a stick. When the medvel gets out, you throw hot shit into his eyes, and then you run away while he rubs his eyes.
    And where can I get hotter?
    And you wake the bear, so it will be right away ... laughing
  17. EGOrkka
    EGOrkka April 9 2015 19: 27
    0
    Well, of course, the Cygan-Judeo-Banderovsky ethnos burns. They have heroes either "mazepas" or "bugs" - there is nothing to invent !!! Everything is by the will of God and its implementation ...
  18. anfil
    anfil April 9 2015 19: 29
    +6
    The goal is a complete breakdown of relations between the EU and the Russian Federation; the imposition of an EU agreement on a transatlantic FTZ did not bring success, Putin is not hanged, and Although Russia is weakening but intact.


    Yes, I fail on the spot, well, not a bit, I do not feel the weakness of my homeland, but on the contrary I feel that Russia is stronger than ever!
  19. old pioneer
    old pioneer April 9 2015 19: 29
    +2
    I stumbled twice on the word DEFURCATION. Although the author has clarified its meaning, I still associate it with a poop.
    1. old pioneer
      old pioneer April 9 2015 20: 02
      +1
      I thought to myself that social tension in Ukraine was very precisely named by this word.
  20. morpogr
    morpogr April 9 2015 19: 32
    +3
    It feels like this is a calm before the grand funeral of the state of Ukraine. Either the Americans will merge, or the Europeans will bend over or suicide in a large-scale civil war and the sovereignty of regions and regions.
  21. Maiman
    Maiman April 9 2015 19: 48
    +3
    It seems to me that the Brothers can spoil on May 9, as a gastoukoid during the Olympics
  22. sagitch
    sagitch April 9 2015 19: 52
    +2
    The time for sitting in the bushes passes - now either the Americans will burn the European bushes, or expel their inhabitants from the thickets
    A forester would come sooner, and would drive everyone out of the forest (or bushes) to e ... mother!
  23. not Russian
    not Russian April 9 2015 20: 00
    +3
    As for Russia, the author is weakening a little wrong. There is a saying, we are e ... t and we are growing stronger. And it is true.
  24. atamankko
    atamankko April 9 2015 20: 27
    +2
    Ukrainians do not want to induce
    order, let them drown.
  25. Indifferent
    Indifferent April 9 2015 20: 35
    +4
    Militarily, Russia is not weakening! The author is wrong! On the contrary, every month it becomes stronger and if it is possible to stay without war for three or four years, then the West will not even dare to climb with the war! Time will be lost.
    As for the country of Bandera, knowing their vile nature, the beginning of the war must be expected on May 9. They in their Kiev will declare that all the troops from the parade directly from Red Square moved to Kiev and the valiant Ukrainian army repels the attacks of the Bashkir cavalry!
  26. Siberian
    Siberian April 9 2015 21: 13
    +2
    .......... Whether the author is right or wrong, the author will decide the next six months, indeed, the situation Ukraine is in now does not bode well for her, and therefore there is practically only one way out for her ... Well, their plan Of course it will be developed with the help of the USA, and it will be approved by America too ..... So we are waiting .....
  27. Tribuns
    Tribuns April 9 2015 21: 56
    0
    The United States, taking on the role of world gendarme, zealous in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Iraq ... Ukraine. Where directly, and where, as in Ukraine, through local henchmen - "Svidomo" ... The actions of the United States in this role sometimes resemble orderlies fixing "madmen from a well-known house" in straitjackets ...
    But who and when will “fix” the USA?
  28. Inok10
    Inok10 April 9 2015 22: 27
    +3
    ... Ukraine did not hang .. it is very dynamically moving towards the state of the surgeons defined in the old bearded joke: ..
    Conversation in the operating room ..
    Surgeon: .. Assistant, Is the patient alive?
    Assistant: .. not yet .. wink
    ".. The Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine on Thursday approved a bill banning the withdrawal of money from bank deposits before the expiration of the deposit.
    Thus, Kiev intends to save the banking system in the days of growing panic. Since the beginning of the year, funds of individuals in Ukrainian banks decreased by 17,8 billion hryvnias, and February 23 was a record day for the outflow of funds from banks - 2,2 billion hryvnias.
    "and further ..
    ... "The five largest holders of Ukrainian bonds worth $ 10 billion decided not to agree to write off the main amount of debt, which Kiev wants to achieve in the framework of negotiations on restructuring. This was reported by Bloomberg, citing a press release from the committee of private lenders of Ukraine. It includes five lenders, including Franklin Templeton, which estimatedly owns $ 7 billion worth of Ukrainian securities.
    The IMF has allocated Ukraine this year under the new program the first tranche of credit assistance in the amount of $ 5 billion. In June, promises the second tranche for the same amount. However, the main condition for its allocation is the restructuring by the end of May of 29 issues of securities, including sub-sovereign obligations.
    According to the IMF, Ukraine must agree with creditors to write off more than $ 15 billion over 4 years, including more than $ 5 billion this year.
    The IMF does not want to give money to pay the debts of Kiev. The Fund, providing a loan to Ukraine (under the new program), made a clear condition: this money cannot be used to pay off other external debts, except for old loans from the IMF.
    ".. so the smell from the thawing of Ukraine is already in full swing ..
  29. langeron
    langeron April 9 2015 23: 25
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    On the independence of Ukraine

    Dear Charles XII, the battle of Poltava,

    Thank God, lost. As burry said,

    Time will show Kuz'kin’s mother, ruins,

    A bone of death after death with a taste of Ukraine.

    That is not green - even, spent by isotope,

    The yellow-black-winged one flies over Konotop,

    Crafted from canvas, Canada has been stockpiled.

    It’s free without a cross, but Khokhlov is not necessary.

    Goy you, carbanovets, sunflower seeds in full flesh.

    Not to us, I am a Nazi muzzle, am, accuse them of treason.

    Sami under the images of seventy years in Ryazan

    With greasy eyes they lived as under Tarzan.

    Let's tell them, with a ringing pause for a mother, to mark, strictly:

    Good riddance, Ukrainians, and a rushnyk road.

    Come from us in zhupan, without saying - in a uniform,

    At the address in three letters, on the sides are all four.

    Now let the hans in the hut in chorus

    With Poles they put you on four bones, you bastards.

    How to climb into the loop, so together, choosing the path in more often,

    And to eat chicken from borsch alone is sweeter.

    Goodbye, Ukrainians, lived together - that's enough!

    Spit, perhaps, in Dnipro, maybe he will roll back.

    Disdainfully proud of us, like a squeezed cram full

    Torn corners and age-old resentment.

    Do not remember dare, your bread, sky

    To us, you choke on a cake and a kolob, not demanding.

    There’s nothing to spoil the blood, tear clothes on the chest,

    Ended, to know, love, since there was a midway.

    What to poke around in vain in ragged roots with a verb.

    You are born of earth, soil, chernozem with a podzol,

    Fully swing right, sew us one thing, another.

    This land does not give you, kavunam, peace.

    Oh, you are the Levada, the steppe, the stealer, the chestnut, the dumpling,

    Go ahead, lose more - more people than money.

    Somehow interrupt. And as for the tears from the eye,

    There is no decree on her, wait until another time.

    With God, eagles and Cossacks, getmans, guards,

    Only when you come and die, bulls,

    Will you wheeze, scratching the edge of the mattress,

    Lines from Alexander, not Taras nonsense

    I. Brodsky 1992
  30. Zomanus
    Zomanus April 10 2015 00: 15
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    It is clear that Ukraine is sinking. And since she had nothing to lose in general, she went all out. In particular, her rhetoric about the Great Patriotic War, so similar to the howls of the Baltic states and Poles, shows that this country is now our enemy. And do not talk about what people think differently. We do not judge by thoughts. but on business.
  31. Zomanus
    Zomanus April 10 2015 02: 37
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    Actually, judging by the reports on Rusvesna, the war in Novorossia again went into a hot phase. It seems that on Easter we will see another attempt at a blitzkrieg performed by ukrovermaht.
  32. Hleb
    Hleb April 10 2015 09: 41
    +1
    the press often piles up, but I liked it:

    Usyk (Ukrainian boxer) after an open training session dedicated to the fight against Russian Andrei Knyazev, refused to answer questions.

    “Well, why do you need politics? The path of an athlete is a war in the ring. This is a confrontation of power, fists. Why do you climb into the ass?
    I don’t understand anything in politics, and I can’t say anything about this ...
    I also want to ask the fans to be calm about Andrei, and if you spit on him, then you spit on me, ”said Usyk.
  33. Vladimir 23rus
    Vladimir 23rus April 11 2015 12: 31
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    Wangyu: In May, it will all begin. No matter the 9th.