Information on workers' hunger strike at Vostochny Cosmodrome construction site confirmed

The information was confirmed that the workers employed at the construction of the Vostochny cosmodrome went on a hunger strike. This information began to arrive the day before, but representatives of Dalspetsstroy stated that no one declared a hunger strike. Today it turned out that Dalspetsstroy was, to put it mildly, not informed about the hunger strike ...

The words of one of the workers on hunger strike results edition Kommersant:

26 people are starving and order 100 on strike. We understand that this is not good, but we already have everything!

It turns out that when allocating colossal funds from the federal budget, the workers for months do not receive the money they earn. About 300 employees have not been paid since the beginning of 2015 of the year. The total debt owed to workers exceeded 14 million rubles. Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin, who oversees the program to build a new cosmodrome in the Amur Region, promised to sort out this blatant situation. On his Twitter microblog, Rogozin made the following entry:

The head of Spetsstroy of Russia, A.Volosov, flew to the cosmodrome to remove the problem with salaries and negligent subcontractors.

The backlog of the construction schedule in a number of sectors of the object has reached 100 days, and therefore the programs of the first starts from Vostochny are in limbo.

Comments

[ECT]

Apparently, payments were slowed down until they figured out the situation, so the contractors didn’t pay salaries to employees.

[Sasha 19871987]

whoever saves so godlessly in people, you just need to close it for fraud just ... so that it would be disgraceful for others ...

[Tankograd]

Quote: sasha 19871987

who saves on people so godlessly, you just have to close

I would say "bury", the lesson will be much more effective for others ...

[captain]

If it’s simple, it turned out that chatting is not a bag tossing and turning. And they will steal until they begin to plant large thieves, and not any husk. Until they understand Serdyukov and his passion, they will steal a lot and for a long time. About 10 years ago, Deputy Finance Minister Storchak was arrested for writing off a debt to one Arab country. At the same time, the government forgot to warn about it, now the deputy finance minister is free. Wonderful things are your Lord.

[Gerurra]

So think after that who is in power!

[bylec]

I agree completely and completely. plant, plant and plant again

[leshiy076]

There is no longer planting, but it’s time to start shooting.

[Ezhaak]

Quote: leshiy076

There is no longer planting, but it’s time to start shooting.

Well, how can one not recall the kind words of Stalin, Beria, and even Ershov ???

[Alf]

Quote: Hedgehog

and even Ershov ???

And who is Yershov?

[region58]

Quote: Alf

And who is Yershov?

It seems he’s beguiled with Yezhov.

[Ezhaak]

Quote: region58

It seems he’s beguiled with Yezhov.

Yeah. That's right.

[goncharov.62]

NOT, he will do Humpbacked Horse from them!

[Ezhaak]

Quote: Alf

And who is Yershov?

One of the famous Stalinist performers.

In the post-Stalin USSR, the period of repressions of 1937-1938 was commonly called “Yezhovism” by the name of People’s Commissar of Internal Affairs N. I. Ezhov.

Pictured is People’s Commissar Yezhov and Stalin, propaganda poster of that period.

[Tugarin]

One of the famous Stalinist performers.

Respected! Let's not confuse Joseph Vissarionovich with a gopot and various producers ... and Ershov is the author of the Skate - the Hunchback ... such a poetic tale

[Corsair]

Quote: Hedgehog

Quote: leshiy076

There is no longer planting, but it’s time to start shooting.

Well, how can one not recall the kind words of Stalin, Beria, and even Ershov ???

More and more I begin to believe that it was thieves and saboteurs, and their descendants, who shouted (and shout) - The guard! REPRESS! ...

[NordUral]

That was exactly what happened during the perestroika period, and now too.

[Petrovich08]

I am a descendant.
Read about my great-grandfather, Dmitry Oleinikov Prokopyevich here: http://www.proza.ru/2012/02/14/1769

[Corsair]

Quote: Hedgehog

Quote: leshiy076

There is no longer planting, but it’s time to start shooting.

Well, how can one not recall the kind words of Stalin, Beria, and even Ershov ???

More and more I begin to believe that it was thieves and saboteurs, and their descendants, who shouted (and shout) - The guard! REPRESS! ...

[STILL]

unnecessary ruffs! STALIN AND BERIA-personalities providing order in the country of councils!

[builder]

Which Ershov? Ezhov (heard about the hedgehog mitts?)

[msm]

Now it is clear what the "repressions" were ... Vorё should not just sit, but work hard in the mines

[Corsair]

Quote: leshiy076

There is no longer planting, but it’s time to start shooting.

All "zakovyka" in the WEAK, or COMPLETELY ABSENT, state control over the activities of "Spetsstroy", which resulted in the fact that were attracted "dark" subcontractors, who parasitize on state funds.

As a result, working people suffer ...

I would like to see if someone would “soak off” such a “crust” during the construction of Start No. 1 in Baikonur ...

[gjv]

Quote: Corsair

attracted "dark" subcontractors who parasitize on state funds.

Subcontractors were attracted on loans from commercial banks (more likely, these are Sberbank and VTB) and this money ran out long ago. And now they have nothing to pay the workers and return the interest to ... the banks. And government contract money is either still not listed by the treasury (? LADIES) or is "spinning" somewhere in the Spetsstroy and affiliated structures (you correctly write - "hitching" in the WEAK, or COMPLETELY ABSENT - the same x ... the scheme was at the Olympic construction site - Olympstroy and "contractors" - holders of contracts of Russian Railways, Gazprom, Sberbank, TCC "butter-chocolate fellows", and who actually worked out or barely got down, many to this day on we didn’t get a hole from the bubble).

Quote: Corsair

I would like to see if someone would “soak off” such a “crust” during the construction of Start No. 1 in Baikonur ...

My father was a conscript soldier. The soldiers were fed, and the deserters ...

[arane]

Quote: leshiy076

There is no longer planting, but it’s time to start shooting.

Not! Just plant! Ready to supply large quantities of pine colas for free!

[goose]

Quote: leshiy076

There is no longer planting, but it’s time to start shooting.

In the US, executed for less. They didn’t stop there, otherwise criminals would blow up America’s economy. In China as well.

[Alexei]

Quote: bylec

.plant, plant and plant again

And fine on round sums with total confiscation of the property of these persons, as well as their immediate relatives. Another good option is to quietly reward monetary incentives for individuals who are aware (acceptable word) of such violations and kickbacks.

[msm]

And fine on round sums with total confiscation of the property of these persons, as well as their immediate relatives.

Kadyrov so wanted to do with the terrorists - they were not allowed. And already, thieves will protect to snot!

[varov14]

So puts on the podium, guaranteed landing, stole more, more confidence.

[Wheel]

Quote: bylec

.plant, plant and plant again

And hto will plant their own?
A raven will not peck out a raven's eye, says a popular proverb.

[Sirs]

How to plant that? After all, everything is in the same trough that the prosecutor's office, the courts, the Investigative Committee, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, members of the government. Probably money was spinning somewhere, but here the insatiable workers wanted to eat. So I had to persuade the contractors to share something to satiate the insatiable !!!!!!

[siberalt]

All major thieves are in Moscow, who steers the budget. But they are untouchable. The system needs to be changed.

[Rusich is not from Kiev]

Quote: siberalt

Big thieves cannot be planted not in Moscow, not in Washington. The system must be changed precisely so that there is a red line to where you can steal and sabotage, and where you can no longer.

Big thieves cannot be planted not in Moscow, not in Washington. The system must be changed precisely so that there is a red line to where you can steal and sabotage, and where you can no longer.

[saag]

Quote: siberalt

The system must be changed

I completely agree, it's time for the gentlemen "musicians" from this "conservatory" to write off to the bourgeois class

[Corsair]

Quote: siberalt

The system needs to be changed.

On the Maidan, some have already "changed" ...

Here IT IS NECESSARY NEEDED, CAREFULLY, WITH BRAINS ...

[saag]

Quote: Corsair

On the Maidan, some have already "changed" ...

Well, what did they change there? Some characters on others, this is not a change of system

[Corsair]

Quote: saag

Well, what did they change there? Some characters on others, this is not a change of system

Replacing just thieves with fascist thieves, is this your change of regime?

For you, of course, this is "parallel", but I felt this change on my own skin.
And I say that I know, see, hear, and feel ...

[saag]

Quote: Corsair

Replacing just thieves with fascist thieves, is this your change of regime?

A change of system is a change in social structure, from capitalism, for example, to socialism, as after 1917, all structures, ideology, laws are changing for new needs, in your case they didn’t change anything in terms of state structure, one was thrown off and others rushed to share money

[msm]

A change of system is a change in social structure

Our political situation is different: the tops can’t, but the lower classes are all ...

[Wheel]

Quote: Corsair

Quote: siberalt

The system needs to be changed.

On the Maidan, some have already "changed" ...

Here IT IS NECESSARY NEEDED, CAREFULLY, WITH BRAINS ...

And someone changed on the Maidan?
System ???
What is there capitalism vna Ukrainians waved without looking?

[Corsair]

Quote: Wheel

And someone changed on the Maidan?
System ???

Read my comment above.

[Wheel]

Quote: Corsair

Read my comment above.

Outside Ukraine, they replaced horseradish with radish (or vice versa), that is, one oligarch replaced another at the helm of power.
The foundations of the system have not changed one iota.
Fascism-this is not a system, if Che.

[Corsair]

Quote: Wheel

Fascism-this is not a system, if Che.

Yah! In Germany 1933-1945 of the year there was no fascist system, Nazi ideology?

Historians of 70 years with frenzy prove that the Second World War was, among other things, a collision of two SYSTEMS, and you say ...

[rasputin17]

Quote: siberalt

All major thieves are in Moscow, who steers the budget. But they are untouchable. The system needs to be changed.

I agree with you! But you can not change the system! It is enough to remove their immunity and level it before the law !!! Remember the Stalinist times: one signal was enough to call an official of any rank and level to account !!! And you can also adopt the methods of our neighbors from the Middle Kingdom or North Koreans!

[Blondy]

The most annoying, there are normal companies. I remembered the Pacific Bridge Building Company. They built two bridges in Vladivostok to APEC at a very global level, and they didn’t steal in compressed (no one agreed to such a time). They hoped to receive an order at the cosmodrome, but they were broken off and handed over to their own.
Now everyone is disentangling. On these special systems before there were plenty of rekanty.
Something began to show itself cautiously in relation to Rogozin, despite the PR: either this story with the pushing of a son's "swift", or screwed up customers-contractors at the cosmodrome.

By the way, the Kerch bridge also flies past TMK, and it seemed like someone else, with their experience, would be attracted. Yes, it can be seen that the approach to the trough is poorly worked out.

[cast iron]

Rogozin is still that bug. And far from being a genius. Since the beginning of the 2000s I have been fixing his adventures. He is a lover of self-PR, no more.

[yehat]

Well, nevertheless, in comparison with Serdyukov, Rogozin is progress.
With the advent of PR man R. and Shoigu, ostentatious cynicism left the army
And this, whatever one may say, is a positive shift in the image of the army.

[goose]

Wherever Kuzhegetovich came, he, like Andropov, always had order.

[Sasha 19871987]

Quote: Tankograd

Quote: sasha 19871987

who saves on people so godlessly, you just have to close

I would say "bury", the lesson will be much more effective for others ...

unfortunately, the death sentences were canceled .... and for such cases a very topical decision, these subcontractors just don’t feel responsible, so they throw men ...

[Botanologist]

Quote: sasha 19871987

unfortunately we have abolished death sentences

It seems to me that it is more urgent to return the confiscation of everything that has been stolen, and the arrest of all the remaining property. To understand that it will not be possible to "leave the children" for life. Let them understand - as long as they cut the forest with a jigsaw, children will earn their bread by honest labor. This is normal.

[Mahmut]

Situevina is very similar to the one that preceded the Lena shooting. Construction of the century, and prosecutorial supervision completely absent. That's who you need to take for Faberge in the first place.

[Karabanov]

This is a disgrace ... What people have brought people to. And where??? On the construction of a strategic facility of federal significance !!!
For the current government, this sounds like a sentence. The chaos is utter ...
And again the same question - when will it all end? K.O.Z.L.Y.

[DRA-88]

Quote: Karabanov

And again the same question - when will it all end?

If the people are silent, then never !!!!!

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: Karabanov

This is a disgrace ...

I fully support.
POSHITORITY OF AUTHORITY.

[Victorio]

About 300 employees have not received wages since the beginning of 2015.
====
three months do not get paid and hunger strike ?!
somehow provocative, or the workers are so advanced

[cast iron]

But I’ve been in construction for several years and there wasn’t a day when I would be paid the full amount for the work. Always must and keep this duty at the next facility. All construction in Russia is a cube of greedy spiders who do not want to pay, they want free slaves.

The most defenseless are the work crews. And in this case, the workers began to go on strike because the matter became public and the object is very famous - a cosmodrome after all. Here, the contractors will not succeed in quietly giving everyone a stump in the ass and throwing them into the street without money.

[DRA-88]

Quote: Mahmut

Situevina is very similar to the one that preceded Lensky

Every year in Russia, more and more people who will never get out of poverty - http://lenta.ru/articles/2015/03/26/bednost/

[Kalinov Bridge]

Quote: Botanologist

It seems to me that it is more urgent to return the confiscation of everything that has been stolen and the arrest of all the remaining property. To understand that it will not be possible to "leave the children" for life. Let them understand that as long as they cut the forest with a jigsaw, children will earn their bread by honest labor.

Dreaming is not bad ...

Watch and listen carefully from 1:05

[goblin xnumx]

otmazat not competently - but taking into account the position no one will object :) and after the last words it is clear that both the Serdyukov company and the new proteges will not be punished :)

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: Botanologist

It seems to me that it is more urgent to return the confiscation of everything that has been stolen, and the arrest of all the remaining property. To understand that it will not be possible to "leave the children" for life. Let them understand - as long as they cut the forest with a jigsaw, children will earn their bread by honest labor. This is normal.

Unfortunately, this is not possible as long as capitalism exists and thieves sit in power. It is necessary that the Communists come to power. Only then will thieves work at the logging site and at the uranium mines, and the fifth column will be shot. New Dzerzhinsky and Stalin are needed.

[nemec55]

The trouble is that under communism, the latter, after the employer, were shot or imprisoned by the workers themselves to disrupt the State Planning Commission. It is not communism that is necessary, but working laws.

[cast iron]

The trouble is that you were brainwashed by anti-communist propaganda. In the country of workers and peasants, workers and peasants earned the most money. And they were paid on time and not thrown through once, as under Russian capitalism.

[RAA]

As if under Stalin they paid!

[My doctor]

Quote: RAA

As if under Stalin they paid!

on a collective farm paid with sticks (workdays)

[van50man]

... but they never stole! They put it on the wall for miscalculations and ,, not the targeted use of the PEOPLE !,. ,, Serdyukovschina ,, -thrives and stinks (more precisely - stinks already, against the background of higher prices and tariffs, taxes and unemployment).

[saag]

Quote: Алексей_К

New Dzerzhinsky and Stalin are needed.

it will be more correct Lenin and Dzerzhinsky

[DRA-88]

Quote: Botanologist

Let them understand - as long as they cut down the forest with a jigsaw, the children will earn their bread by honest labor. This is normal.

Yeah The top manager of Gazprom Neft was the son of the former head of the FSB - http://lenta.ru/news/2015/04/03/gazneftipatrushev/

[leshiy076]

I myself have been working in construction for a long time. I will only say one thing, the main contractor and the customer are sawing the main profit. Most of the middlemen throw the hard workers. As a result of the construction of the "Golden Olympiad", 80% of the workers were either simply thrown or left with a small advance.

[tol100v]

Quote: Tankograd

I would say "bury"

Then already roll into the concrete launch pad!

[Kostyar]

It's too late to plant! It will be "fashionable" to arrange demonstrative executions .... so that those whose hands itch, think carefully before stealing from the long-suffering people !!!!

[Rink]

If this is not blatant sabotage, then what?
Under Stalin, order would have been put in place at 24 o’clock, and, frankly, that probably should have been done: quickly, efficiently and once and for all. And it would be disagreeable to others.

... what a shame!

PS Rogozin somehow begins to disappoint. Maybe he needs less to sit on Twitter and more often be interested in the state of affairs in his department?

[msm]

If this is not blatant sabotage, then what?

Nothing personal, it's just a business ...

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Sasha 19871987

whoever saves so godlessly in people, you just need to close it for fraud just ... so that it would be disgraceful for others ...

Everything, of course, is clear - a project of paramount, strategic importance. "We will give up all our forces, we will provide everything, in a short time", etc. All this, of course, is necessary and correct, but the hucksters have remained the same that have grown over the past 25 years. The party’s general line can be changed in five minutes. Where can I get people to worry about the business, and not rob the country and hard workers? We raised this "free business" throughout the country, nurtured it, cherished it in foreign resorts, so that one day we could see that contractors were stealing?

In Soviet times, he was on a business trip in Tyuratam. Here they built. And missiles fell much less. And military representatives watched everything. Where are the European standards to our military representatives! And now they are building not to build, but to steal at the construction site. Hang a couple of contractors right on the launch pad - you look, and BUILD would start, and not rob the Homeland and its citizens.

[avt]

Quote: Zoldat_A

In Soviet times, he was on a business trip in Tyuratam. Here they built. And missiles fell much less.

Well, they fell no less than what the blizzard drove then, but this, b ... you definitely didn’t - the same Leninsk was supplied in the first category no worse than Moscow, and with delays in money I don’t remember anyone complaining.

Quote: Motherland Russia

If this happens on an important object, what can we talk about ...
What is this construction management?

Are you asking Rogozin ??? When at the time he did not share the enthusiasm for the statement of this glorious journalist, he collected minuses from enthusiastic fans. Well - get it and sign it, despite the fact that a year ago, at a meeting on the topic, Putin told them - you don't have enough workers at a construction site, you won't have time. So they shouted in unison - No! We'll make it! GDP them - “Okay - we'll see.” And now it's time for a show.

Quote: 3vs

Thieves just to the wall!

,, We are not 37th year "

[fif21]

Quote: avt

,, We are not 37th year "

It's a pity!

[Mikhail3]

Quote: fif21

Quote: avt

,, We are not 37th year "

It's a pity!

Not just a pity, but until 37go happens, we will not see a real breakthrough. Manipulating cash flows and building a country's future is not the same thing. The Americans were manipulated ... and we are all in the wrong science alien! All by ourselves we strive to plant a bigger face! Eh ...

[s1н7т]

Quote: Mikhail3

until the 37th, we will not see a real breakthrough.

Without the 17th, no 37th will happen, however.

[vik669]

The Vostochny cosmodrome is not the Belomor channel.

[Berg berg]

Not 37 times! Quit your job and drive wherever you look and get paid more! And then they shouted, "We say that we build faster and better than the Chinese! And on the face, you sew work and money on schedule! If you do it, get it!"

[Tersky]

Quote: avt

! GDP them - “Okay - we'll see.” And now it's time to look

As if he hinted, the missiles from the "Vostochny" will not fly in time, heads will fly. We are waiting for "starts" ...

Quote: avt

! , We are not 37th year "

For the sake of such a case on the "tower", you can declare a moratorium, albeit for a short time, but during this time the efficiency will be amazing ...

[taram taramych]

Well, it is not necessary to lift the moratorium on the "tower", you can simply cut off the thieves' hands.

[Tersky]

Quote: Taram Taramych

you can just chop off the hands of thieves.

You don’t know such a tale about a thief who, if he doesn’t have anyone and has nothing to steal, throws his hat away from himself and then sneaks up to it to steal it from himself? This is a pathology. A thief will remain a thief, even if he cut off his hands he will continue to steal with his feet, teeth, and anything else, so the surest and most proven means is to chop something above his shoulders ...

[cast iron]

There was a Romanian Vlad Tepes. So he put on the count for most criminal offenses. After several years of such rule, a citizen could leave a bucket of gold in the central square of the city for a week. A week later, this gold remained there untouched. And all life-giving colo therapy helped.

[Motherland Russia]

Fucking just ...
If this happens on an important object, what can we talk about ...
What is this construction management?
How much can you look through your fingers at such situations?

[twin22]

Motherland Russia
Fucking just ...
If this happens on an important object, what can we talk about ...
What is this construction management?
How much can you look through your fingers at such situations?

...I'm shocked.
How many formidable statements were made that accounting and control would be strengthened. Rogozin promised to even plant someone!
Mr. Rogozin - THE BALDU THEY PUT ON ALL YOUR THREATS.

thieves must be poisoned like cockroaches. Plant. And not under house arrest, as is now accepted as especially large, but immediately to Magadan. Yavas is their home. Forest felling for life ...

[cast iron]

You yourself answered your bewilderment. In Russia there is no punishment for financial thieves. There is no confiscation, no huge prison sentences, no execution for embezzlement and deceit of hired workers.

[builder]

They dispersed the military builders, destroyed the universities that trained specialists, and that's the result. They do not carry out tasks, but they master the money. Here it is necessary not to plant for fraud, but for treason, but we, unfortunately, are not 37 years old.
Moreover, such a situation (failure to meet construction deadlines and embezzlement of funds) occurs at almost all facilities of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.

[Mviktor]

What are you shaking for 37 years, there is a criminal article of theft, fraud. It’s impossible for us to plant thieves now, the law allows Putin’s political will to thieves to plant thieves, and not send them to London with the stolen

[builder]

This is not we shaking:

If you seriously fight theft and corruption, 37 years will immediately come (in the good sense of the word)

[Mikhal]

Under Peter the Great, corruption was even worse today, even an organization appeared to fight it - Fiscals, people are almost outside the law. They executed, tortured. Then they were caught in bribes. As long as society does not perceive corruption as pedophilia, nothing will change.

[cast iron]

We recall the 37th year because then there were no jurisdictions. They planted anyone if the law was broken. And now there is no confiscation of property. You can steal a billion dollars, spend 5 years in jail as a resort, go out and spend all your life remaining at the expense of the stolen.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: stroitel

They dispersed the military builders, destroyed the universities that trained specialists, and that's the result. They do not carry out tasks, but they master the money.

This is true. Now the market (essentially a bazaar) has been set up. The TENDER is called. It seems that competition should be and production cheaper. But it was not there!
Tenders either win their own (these are bold pieces!) Or the one who promises to build for smaller amounts.
In the first case (they won their own) contracts are distributed by their own "firm", while taking "kickbacks" for providing work to "who needs." It's good if they stop at this - the "firm" has its own equipment, and if not, then more the order sags a couple of floors before it reaches the executor.
In the second case - a pure scam: the tender is taken from "horns and hooves" from which a table, a chair and a secretary from the construction equipment. Further, these "vumniks" are recruiting anyhow someone, for a ruble twenty, in order to make something. As a result, we have what we have.
Volosov set the task - to switch to the construction of facilities "on their own". And everyone sat down to the fifth point: there are no workers, no base, no mechanization either. Everything has been taken apart according to the "firmochka", where the chiefs are all former leaders. The master left, and took with him everything "acquired by back-breaking labor" (he spun off!), And what he could not "for so" attach, bought out at the "residual value", rented with the right of subsequent redemption, etc.
When we woke up and looked around, there was no building complex! There are a bunch of "LLC", "OJSC" and other "firms" ... in the sense of feeders for "especially gifted" managers. Moreover, they "gifted" themselves, while still at the helm of the authorities.
But the objects need to be built strategic, of national importance - a spaceport, radar SPRN, etc.
So you will think: are we going there, and are those laws in force, and WHY IS NO DEMAND? though, of course, and not 37th year. But the second branch of the BAMA needs to be built ... So the construction managers have already been selected, and "for free", they would have worked for 10 years, for the good of the Fatherland, which had been stolen from their pockets.

[leshiy076]

I can give an example from my practice. We participate in the auction, we win. It comes to the contract and suddenly we have errors in the bank guarantee. Consequences: the organization in RNP, the contract is taken away by its contractor, only the price is twice as high. That's how auctions are held here.
If law enforcement officers come here, I can give detailed information on this case.

[38g126]

Everything is very simple, the absence of strict control and measures of responsibility. Why was the Soviet rocketry at one time at its best? Beria came to landfills and construction sites every week. He came, looked, checked the schedule. Any "miracles" were instantly eliminated. And with us? Cabinet chiefs rule the country. Responsible for construction probably flew to the construction site for the first time. Here is the result. What is most interesting, [b] no punishment, no one will incur. So the LADY will scold on TV and that's it.

[s.cot]

In 2010, on the island of Russkiy he himself observed exactly the same thing, the Olympics, too, and so what? Never mind!!! Until the execution with confiscation is returned, nothing will change.

[38g126]

There is no economy. Elementary kidalovo. Thought some money for a quick cut down and nothing else for everything else. Years 20 to such "clowns" vprudit. And the ostentatious trial on TV. I'll give a lot of reason.

[SAXA.SHURA]

Yes, it is necessary to give a term without trial and investigation, to those who plunder the money of workers, Rogozin is a serious enough person for someone to evade responsibility.

[38g126]

I want to believe. But we'll see.

[Dimka off]

Quote: sasha 19871987

whoever saves so godlessly in people, you just need to close it for fraud just ... so that it would be disgraceful for others ...

It is necessary to give the guilty serious terms - this will be an example for other "negligent" and frankly pests.

[38g126]

In fact, everything that happens can be called DIVERSION in one word.

[Karabanov]

Yes, here it’s not sabotage, but the systematic breakdown and destruction of potential and industry (the one that still remains).
We like to talk about the "fifth column" in opposition. I am amazed ... No opposition is capable of doing as much harm as pro-Kremlin bureaucrats, the United Russia oligarchy and various "effective managers." Well, on the other hand, there are always those on whom you can shift the responsibility. Convenient however.

[DRA-88]

Quote: Karabanov

We like to talk about the "fifth column" in opposition. I am amazed ... No opposition is capable of doing as much damage as pro-Kremlin bureaucrats, United Russia oligarchy and various "effective managers"

"The fifth column" is a PR fake for the plebs !! 1
Well, what the hell is the oppositionist Kudrin or Gref, sculpted friends of the president.
The authorities and the Khazar Kaganate, as never before, are united in finally finishing off the industry, turning Russia into a colony, and the People into slaves for servicing the "pipe" and "mine" without education, medical care and preferably without retirement age !!!
Smart and senior citizens for power-a ballast, and the PF has long been looted ....

[Tersky]

Quote: sasha 19871987

whoever saves so godlessly in people, you just need to close it for fraud just ... so that it would be disgraceful for others ...

News from 15 on May 2014:

A working group of the prosecutor's office of the Amur Region conducted an audit at the Vostochny spaceport. As a result, an increase in the number of detected violations of labor legislation related to untimely payment of wages and non-compliance with labor protection legislation was noted. During the 2014 year, prosecutors found more than 300 violations of the law.

In order to eliminate them, employees of the department submitted 60 submissions, opened 40 cases on administrative offenses. In defense of the interests of citizens, 143 applications for the collection of wage arrears for the total amount of 4 055 000 rubles were sent to the court. All applications are reviewed and satisfied, the debt is repaid in full.

And nothing has changed...

[ava09]

Quote: sasha 19871987

who saves so godlessly in public

How soft you are. This is not saving - this is a crime. And by law, and most importantly, by conscience.

[Gerurra]

Yes, so throughout the country !!!! Kidalovo to the fullest! They hire subcontractors contractors, and those subcontractors and so on the chain. And they throw along the chain. The latter remains with a nose-nothing to pay. It happens that the contractor and the first subcontractor have no workers. But there is a connection. I received an order, well, I made a rollback from zo up to 50 percent. And there’s at least a flood. There’s a money abroad with my wife and children. He steals further, he doesn’t fart. While the liberals will not squeeze the eggs with their bullshit, nothing can be changed.

[DRA-88]

Quote: Gerurra

Kidalovo to the fullest! Hire subcontractors contractors, and those subcontractors, and so on in the chain.

Sources of data Rosstat and the directory "National Economy of the USSR" for 1990, p. 24
In the light of these facts, I somehow feel uncomfortable for our leaders of the state, regularly pushing with a blue eye on the topic of the absolute inefficiency of the Soviet economy and the benefits of the capitalist structure of today's Russia. It turns out that there is no efficiency and benefit of capitalism. One, continuous harm.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: DRA-88

Sources of data Rosstat and the directory "National Economy of the USSR" for 1990, p. 24

So pay people a salary, as in the USSR and many enterprises will immediately leave plus as a plus.
There is no longer the USSR, what a joke to live in the past.
We need to live in the future and build it in the present.

[DRA-88]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

There is no longer the USSR, what a joke to live in the past.
We need to live in the future and build it in the present.

Sanya, you understand perfectly well that both you and I and our other colleagues at VO love their homeland and strive and want the homeland to flourish! And comparisons beg for themselves, because there is no future without the past!
There is an easy way to get rid of comparisons, to do better than it was, but those in power do not want to do this. Cars and an imaginary well-being are just a screen of the Potemkin village, behind the facade of which everything is rotten.

in wrote
PS. Why aren’t you sleeping?

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

So pay people a salary, as in the USSR and many enterprises will immediately leave plus as a plus.

Quote: DRA-88

There is an easy way to get rid of comparisons, to do better than it was, but those in power do not want to do this. Cars and the imaginary well-being are just a screen of the Potemkin village, behind the facade of which everything is rotten.

About cars. If people on the construction of "Vostochny" were paid, at the suggestion of Alexandra Romanova, as under the USSR, it would have been built differently. In Soviet times, in Leninsk there was a queue for a Zhiguli, of course, as elsewhere. But "Moskvich" or "Zaporozhets" could go in and buy. Agree, in the absence of such "automobile forbs", as now, it's also not bad. So here we have men, simple high-altitude installers bought a Moskvich in 4 (four) months and drove home from a business trip in their own car. Shkolota, of course, does not understand what it means to earn a car in the USSR in 4 months, but the middle and older generation will understand what I mean.

Indeed, "cars and imaginary well-being" are now of much less value than "Moskvich" under the Soviet Union. True, they worked a lot. But they also earned decently. Those who sing songs about 120 rubles plus 15 bonuses were sitting like aphids in an unnecessary research institute, wiping their pants. Those who wanted to earn - earned. And ordinary installers from the station after a business trip to Leninsk or Tyurya (Tyuratam) went to the house in two taxis - in one by himself, in the other by winter shobans.

I think if now the installers were paid money comparable to the Soviet money, and now it would be "five years in three years." And they really would have done it, and not according to the Fukushima fashion - "cardboard textured for concrete" ...

[taram taramych]

Plahu with an ax, like Peter Alekseevich! And that would not stand idle!

[ivan48857]

Close a little. Our man cannot be scared of prison, especially since they either get out of there quickly or sit there as in a resort. Full confiscation is needed together with relatives and friends who cannot justify their income. For them, the worst thing is poverty.

[DRA-88]

Quote: sasha 19871987

whoever saves so godlessly in people, you just need to close it for fraud just ... so that it would be disgraceful for others ...

In the Russian Federation, all effective managers and the government work like that!

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: DRA-88

In the Russian Federation, all effective managers and the government work like that!

In the USSR, everything was so effective that the Saudis lowered oil prices and the kirdyk economy came.

[DRA-88]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

In the USSR, everything was so effective that the Saudis lowered oil prices and the kirdyk economy came.

Given the fact that we still live the heritage of the USSR. Factories, ships, planes, etc., everything was created and developed in the USSR.
What do we have now? "screwdriver in Kaliningrad and Kaluga, have already reached the point that the" screwdriver "for the" Chinese ", we are building glass factories with up to 300 employees, in general, zilch.
The site is made in the Russian Federation, I read, if that

[avt]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

In the USSR, everything was so effective that the Saudis lowered oil prices and the kirdyk economy came.

Well, why do liberoid glitches then repeat and multiply ??? Well, how much has already been said about who, as a biblical character, sold the birthright for a bowl of lentil stew! Oil prices here were just a screech, or rather an excuse for the export of the gold reserve by the party elite, which, under the Gaidarites, suddenly turned out to be a couple of hundred tons, and pegged the ruble to the dollar through the reform of Pavlov's dog. Even hyperinflation was caused by the destruction of the Soviet financial system, when the law on cooperatives, the Chekists gave free rein to the swindlers, having their own interest of diamonds "gave the right to withdraw ANY amount of cash from banks, and state-owned enterprises only withdrawn their salaries. So it started the theft of working capital in cash. This is short.

[DRA-88]

Quote: avt

Well, why do liberoid glitches then repeat and multiply ???

Rzhunemagu !!! Romanov-liberal
+100500

[avt]

Quote: DRA-88

Rzhunemagu !!! Romanov-liberal

Laughter with laughter, but a graphic illustration as a stamp with constant repetition is driven into the subconscious level. A classic of antipsychotics and the development of a conditioned reflex! Saudis - oil, falling oil prices - the collapse of the USSR

[DRA-88]

Quote: avt

illustration of how a stamp with constant repetition is driven into the subconscious level

But don’t you see that the current propaganda has lived and still lives with PR stamps, for example:
1) the president outplayed everyone
2) the president is waiting-- hpp
3) if not him, then there is no one else (this is when there’s nothing at all to say)
etc.

[Wheel]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

In the USSR, everything was so effective that the Saudis lowered oil prices and the kirdyk economy came.

Alexander, what does the oil have to do with it?
Kirdyk organized the economy of the USSR consciously and purposefully from within.
Losses of the budget only from the fight against alcoholism exceeded the military budget of the state.
Are you talking about some kind of oil ...

[bulatovvvas]

The situation there is not simple, look at the next branch of the article "What is Spetsstroy Building", in which the head of Spetsstroy Volosov talks about correcting the situation by the end of May. And Kommersant often acts as a provocateur!

[DRA-88]

Quote: bulatovvvas

the head of Spetsstroy Volosov says that the situation will be rectified by the end of May. And Kommersant often acts as a provocateur!

With such huge investments, bring the workers to a hunger strike ???? And then by May, correct the situation ???
Into the furnace of such "leaders". Thieves and embezzlers !!!

[goblin xnumx]

and what's so, there was an article about an employer who mocked workers-Ukrainians, so he justified himself in his needles to the public - not all - and there they are of a higher rank and they don’t need excuses :): they will be smeared as in that video about the writer’s questions

[Allen]

Yes, this is not saving, it's just full PPC ... 14 million for such a project is a penny, there are hundreds of billions. Just a fucking guide, who is fucked up by hard workers. When will they begin to plant for such crap, or at least compensate the hard workers from the personal pockets of the leadership.

[wow]

I think that Lavrenty Pavlovich figured out a similar situation in about half an hour, no more. Especially considering the importance of this facility.

[van50man]

... ,, save ,,? - robbed, insolent! What does God have to do with it? The thieves have only one God - while gaining, while ,, feeders ,,! ,, The power vertical is good - the rating is growing, thieves rave and spit on everyone ... Such projects (including strategically important ones) need to be followed up, from the first day of the project! ,, Woke up, when the turmoil went ... It smacks of tribunal! And they threaten with us - ay-yy-yay! ,,.

[Sergey Vl.]

Spetsstroy got in touch with cheap subchiks, and the country's prestige and decency to one place. A.S. Pushkin warned about cheapness. And it is also necessary to deal with the general contractor - where did you get such a gopot from.

[sergi-i]

But people here behave in a defeatist way.
Why starve, mock yourself.
To begin with, it would be nice to file a complaint with the prosecutor’s office, in court, even the president’s website.
By law, they had the right not to work. It would be possible to go to work and not work, and not to let others work. By the way, their union should have taken care of this. So the professional leader is on the soap.
I do not like this rule - hit on one cheek - turn the other.
That's how they made us slaves, moreover, voluntarily.

[viking1703]

Yes, everyone knows yours. Who needs to share the budget allocated for construction with those who need to give a paw. In total, all this disgrace turns a blind eye. Circus on the road.

[albatros.domanov]

Where is the landing?

[gorge1945]

Theft and corruption flourishes, and the authorities are silent and seem to not notice what is happening. Why does the one who brings the good of Russia suffer, and theft and corruption grow fat when the authorities wake up and begin to restore order in the country and not engage in verbiage.

[sssla]

Quote: ECT

Apparently, the payments slowed down until they figure out the situation.

What about the situation? Ha ha da Putin is drained according to the principle in many places the water undermines the stone !!! Do you think that Western technology against Russia is when Nuland distributes cookies Yes Psaki, along with their media, includes tupac ??? Here you have the technology before the collapse a la Sovetik !! They didn’t give it there and took away the dots and here they didn’t allocate it and they didn’t fulfill it, but that one billion eccentric was found and they got an interesting tip for them in a day, but they still need to cancel it. Get the better of the situation until Russia is cut down !! PLUMINS DO FOR YEARS SLOWLY AND YOUR HEADS !!

[Sid.74]

Here you need to know the subtleties!

Employees of Stroyindustriya refused to work due to lack of salaries on March 24. Then the general contractor FSUE "Dalspetsstroy" argued that he had fulfilled his obligations to finance the construction and that the management of the contractor Ideal LLC, on which the company was subcontracted, should deal with the issue of salaries. A week later, acting director of "Dalspetsstroy" Yuri Volkodav agreed with the management of the companies and employees on a debt repayment scheme, but she did not arrange part of the workers.


On April 1 it became known that Dalspetsstroy could not provide the Prosecutor General with information on the expenditure of 16 billion rubles allocated from the budget for the construction of the East. The next day, at a meeting with Dmitry Rogozin on the construction of the cosmodrome, the first deputy director of Spetsstroy, Alexander Zagorulko, said that the issue of wage arrears is being resolved with the help of the labor inspectorate and the prosecutor's office, and assured that the problem will be resolved soon.
More details: http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2702197?isSearch=True

The contractor terminated the contract with the company that did not pay salaries to the builders of the Vostochny spaceport

The management of Ideal LLC (Vostochny Cosmodrome contractor) terminated the contract with Stroyindustriya, whose employees were on strike due to a delay in salaries, said Oleg Dokuchaev, Deputy General Director for Economic Security at Ideal.

Mr. Dokuchaev told Interfax that Ideal had received advances from Dalspetsstroy and had fulfilled its contractual obligations to Stroyindustriya LLC. “Meanwhile, after our first advance payment, Stroyindustriya employees began strikes in connection with non-payment of salaries. We immediately informed "Dalspetsstroy" of this situation, as well as the law enforcement agencies of the Amur region and the prosecutor's office. The procedure for terminating the contract has been started, and the leadership of the Stroyindustriya was promptly informed about it. Currently, the contracts have been terminated, ”said Oleg Dokuchaev.
More details: http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2701999?isSearch=True

[maxcor1974]

As I understand it, workers 14 million will not be returned, because the contract is terminated?
Just like Vysotsky: "Where is Zin's money?"
I wonder what pocket they stuck to?

[GRAY]

Quote: maxcor1974

As I understand it, workers 14 million will not be returned, because the contract is terminated?

All workers must have an agreement with the employer, the last one has no attendants at all or is in a safe place. Neither Ideal nor Dalspetsstroy owes them anything - they are employees of Stroyindustriya. The fact that third-party organizations offer them to pay off part of the debt is an awesome gesture of goodwill, in fact, they are not obliged to do this at all.
Usually, in such cases, debts to employees are repaid in bankruptcy proceedings, which is a long process. The stump is clear, people are unhappy. And if they also received salaries in envelopes, then they will be doubly dissatisfied.

[Tersky]

Quote: GRAY

All workers must have an agreement with the employer, the campaign for the last grandmother is not at all or is but in a safe place.

What are the contracts and contracts? If a-

Subcontracting organizations were forced to attract the lowest paid workers - including unskilled workers from Moldova, Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan.

Read in full: http://newsrbk.ru/news/1043961-na-kosmodrome-vostochnyiy-nashli-gastarbayterov-i
-treschinyi.html

[GRAY]

Quote: Tersky

What are the contracts and contracts? If a-
Subcontracting organizations were forced to attract the lowest paid workers - including unskilled workers from Moldova, Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan.

Read in full: http://newsrbk.ru/news/1043961-na-kosmodrome-vostochnyiy-nashli-gastarbayterov-i

-treschinyi.html

I read, it is not said anywhere that they are illegal. A guest worker is the same person as everyone - two hands, two legs, a head and they are hired to work just the same, with the conclusion of an employment contract.

[goblin xnumx]

when clicking on the link throws to the desktop, is this normal?

[Tersky]

Quote: Sid.74

Here you need to know the subtleties!

Hi Zhenya! ! In my opinion, there are no longer subtleties, but solid thicknesses. And for some it is time for a "diet", gruel is the best remedy for excess weight, and no super-rich fitness club program can be compared with a felling.

[Sid.74]

Quote: Tersky

In my opinion, there are no longer subtleties, but solid thicknesses. And for some it is time for a "diet", gruel is the best remedy for excess weight, and no super-rich fitness club program can be compared with logging.

I agree! Victor, I caught a glimpse that today is your birthday!
Happy holiday, all the very best, health, good mood, all prosperity!

[Tersky]

Quote: Sid.74

, health, good mood, all well-being!

Thank! I try to keep my mood in good shape, I’ll report on health tomorrow, (if it allows )

[Aleksander]

Well class! The customer hired the contractor, the contractor hired a contractor, the contractor hired a subcontractor. And everyone winds up, scrolls, saws, pins, and cash out. And after all, salary is a miserable amount of all the money spinning, usually there are no problems (so as not to attract attention and do business). If this has already happened, then everything has gone all the way ...

[Kombrig]

Quote: sssla

Putin is drained according to the principle in many places the water undermines the stone !!!

It’s easy to blame any negligence of officials and civil servants for Putin’s discharge, the commonplace theft of a subcontractor, or (which is more unlikely) untimely transfer of funds by the state, but from the moment of signing the documents on the allocation of funds and the allocation in our country, they can pass long months, and people can be understood, everyone should bear personal responsibility for their actions ...

[sssla]

Quote: Kombrig

How easy it is to attribute any negligence of officials and civil servants to Putin’s drain,

BUT not at this time in this country and at the current strain of Russia with the Mamericonians and their mongrels, and yes, you are right in something

[Mik13]

Quote: sssla

BUT not at this time in this country and at the current strain of Russia with the Mamericonians and their mongrels, and yes, you are right in something

Here I agree with you - in peacetime it really is ordinary theft. But now it’s actually a war.

Therefore, gratitude to such rats should be adjusted for wartime.

[Andrey NM]

And here you need to ask a question, including to Putin - and how did you control the work of your subordinates? Why do managers with dubious reputations still work? How were contractual obligations fulfilled? Who controls the timing of the work stages? If for Rogozin these circumstances suddenly became unexpected, then it is necessary to change Rogozin and shake everyone below. This is not an ordinary project. Remember the story of the springboard in Sochi? Well, who suffered the punishment?

[msm]

As old as the world: "Your hand does not cut itself!"

[Viktor Kudinov]

Previously, it was necessary to delve into the situation at a construction site so as not to wave hands after a fight. And the principle is simple: the salary is suspended - the construction is also suspended. These 100 days of lag could well arise only due to the fact that they tried to save money and manage with small forces. So the price came out of this savings!

[38g126]

This means that the construction site was supervised by profane and dialetant. On such objects, there is a tight schedule. And probably a clear plan of action. This is a common attempt to "drain" money into your pocket.

[leshiy076]

In construction there is also such a thing as supervision. The design organization, which prepared the design and estimate documentation, is engaged in this. This costs a lot of money, and the work can be reduced to simple formalities - from time to time signing in the general contractor’s journals. If the supervision was carried out as expected, which means that at least once a week an engineer from the design organization should appear at the facility, then there would be much less questions. After all, supervision also implies that the work must be carried out by qualified specialists who have passed certification in a timely manner, and not by migrant workers. There is only one conclusion, everything is in proportion, except for the workers.

[builder]

Architectural supervision is the representatives of the design organization. The tasks of field supervision include (simplified) control of work according to project documentation. If the construction is carried out according to the project, the author's supervision has no questions. He does not control the development of funds. Moreover, he does not control which specialists work for contractors, it is important for him that the work was carried out on his project.

[leshiy076]

And here I do not quite agree. As for finance, yes. But the monitoring of compliance with technical standards, the use of materials laid down by the project, the proficiency testing of direct executors is precisely this supervision. Because the designer is responsible for the achievement of the object technical parameters defined in the design assignment. In addition, each project has a PIC section. And this is also under supervision.

[Aleksander]

Quote: Victor Kudinov

Previously, it was necessary to delve into the situation at a construction site so as not to wave hands after a fight. And the principle is simple: the salary is suspended - the construction is also suspended. These 100 days of lag could well arise only due to the fact that they tried to save money and manage with small forces. So the price came out of this savings!

Yes, the system is old, as the world contractor took an advance, turned it around, drank it, somehow bought materials and hired equipment (probably for loans already), but they didn’t finish the work, and oppa! - there’s nothing to pay for, the customer doesn’t sign interest in advance, and loans do not give. Here comes the animal. It is necessary to change the contractor (after measurements).

[38g126]

)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

[good fair]

Quote: sssla

! What do you think that Western technology against Russia is when Nuland distributes cookies yes Psaki, along with their media, include tupac ???

All this is so, dear sssla, but I have a small request for you: please use at least punctuation marks in the text, and in some places you have to catch up with the meaning of what was said. I read quickly, but here I feel like I am stumbling. No offense. And so - in a general sense, I agree.

[sssla]

Quote: good fairy

I read fast

Sorry, I’m printing fast)) And I’ll take into account the punctuation marks D Fey)

[good fair]

Quote: sssla

Sorry, I’m printing fast)) And I’ll take into account the punctuation marks D Fey)

Thank you.

[Berg berg]

You have already been drained into dill! And the beggar walks around Kiev with an outstretched hand - "give gas and cheaper, otherwise we will steal!"

[sssla]

Quote: Berg Berg

You in dill already leaked!

You in rusike also merge if you loosen the rolls

[Finches]

Apparently you need a thief and corrupt officials not to plant or ruin things under house arrest, but to shoot them - maybe then, at least there will be some order! And we don’t even have property confiscation!

[KBR109]

And in response to you the old and well-known: "We are not in 1937" and "And who will I stay with?" Impressed? Oh, it's time to switch to Chinese rails - and shoot and confiscate ...

[SRC P-15]

Quote: KBR109

Oh, it's time to go over to the Chinese tracks - and shoot and confiscate ...

Are you not afraid to be among those shot?

[KBR109]

Do not engage in dubious operations. Not stolen - I won’t be afraid. Permanent close work of the FSB group and the financial intelligence commission with broad powers is required at the facility.

[SRC P-15]

Quote: KBR109

. Not stolen - I won’t be afraid.

Nowadays, someone can just substitute you, for example, the one who stole. Or will you say that this is not practiced with us? Until they figure out who is right, who is to blame, and you have already been shot. How do you like this?

[KBR109]

And you can stumble and hit the back of the head on the curb. You can get under the tram. Choke on a spoon of soup or tea ...

[vladim.gorbunow]

Hard times - difficult decisions.

[Gerurra]

Do not steal! The state does not like competitors!
This applies to ordinary people.

[Corsair5912]

Quote: ECT

Apparently, payments were slowed down until they figured out the situation, so the contractors didn’t pay salaries to employees.

No, the money has been allocated from the budget, but not a ruble has been transferred to contractors in the Far East; all the money is being turned in Moscow commercial banks.
The circuit worked out in 90's and continues to operate.
Without executions of scum scammers nothing will change.

[Sid.74]

Quote: Corsair5912

Without executions of scum scammers nothing will change.

Or simply reduce the number of banks to a manageable value. How many banks do we have now? About a thousand! In America there are only 6 major banks, and the rest belong to them one way or another.

[Corsair5912]

Maybe banks should be reduced, only there will be little sense, it is necessary to control the flow of money to the accounts of contractors, and not to bank branches.
The basis of the fraud is that the money from the Central Bank is transferred to some thread "Cradibank", which has branches in the Far East.
But not a ruble goes to the Far East, all the money is placed in Moscow banks at interest or for granting loans and all involved go on.
1 million rubles, even at an interest rate of 2% per year, makes a profit of 20 000 rubles. And how much can you get if it is a loan at 18%, and the amount is not millions but billions of rubles?
Money out of thin air and no risk.

[vladim.gorbunow]

Yes, not just spinning. In December, rubles were brought in by echelons for currency interventions by the Central Bank. The ruble mass withdrawn from the economy and with the help of insider fell the ruble exchange rate.

[Civil]

I recognize the handwriting of "effective managers"

[Thunderbolt]

It’s shitty when the strategic direction of the team is controlled by journalists. In Ustinov’s times everything was clear - personal responsibility — calling a party bureau ticket on a table and an article for the collegium. And now these liberoids only think about how to ward off the national budget, and they don’t have anything for it .

[Juborg]

Quote: ECT

Apparently, payments were slowed down until they figured out the situation, so the contractors didn’t pay salaries to employees.

Here the campaign is obvious sabotage and bribery. Here the FSB needs to work.

[Bully]

Quote: ECT

Apparently, payments were slowed down until they figured out the situation, so the contractors didn’t pay salaries to employees.

Most likely this is exactly what happened, there are more than enough similar examples now. Apparently, at the very beginning of the chain (at the level of the Customer or the General Contractor), the money hung, there are no options for subchikers either. The curators on the part of the Customer overslept the situation if such a mess has been going on for about 100 days.

[Andrey NM]

The scheme is simple. The Universiade is planned in Krasnoyarsk. So, not a penny fell in Krasnoyarsk. Everything was given to Muscovites, but they are already attracting subcontractors. And almost always, this scheme leads to an elementary "scam" of the producers of works on the ground. And then the showdown begins, which does not lead to anything.

[Skif83]

Do you think so?

I now think that this:

This flagrant situation was promised by Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin, who oversees the construction program for a new cosmodrome in the Amur region. In his microblog on Twitter, Rogozin made the following entry:

The head of Spetsstroy of Russia, A.Volosov, flew to the cosmodrome to remove the problem with salaries and negligent subcontractors.

at the time of Joseph Vissarionovich and Lavrenty Pavlovich it was decided much more effectively!
And, notice, without any twitter!
Some people rode the forest with jigsaws, some smeared their foreheads with brilliant green, BUT WAS ONLY!

[APASUS]

Quote: ECT

Apparently, payments were slowed down until they figured out the situation, so the contractors didn’t pay salaries to employees.

The Serdyukov case continues to live!
That's what it means to get a contract for modern business, managers from friends and classmates. After the construction in the Far East is completed, there are a couple billionaires more stats, and a couple dozen prisoners.

[moremanovich71]

I think the matter is different. Everything is much simpler and more complicated. The root cause is corruption. To win the tender you need a rollback. Well, no way!

[ARS56]

Theft, of course, but construction organizations took loans for work, and the bank interest jumped (hi ​​from Nabiullina), now you need to give more than you received from the state for the work done (if at all), and then the materials in the price increased ... And where to get money for the current salary, even if not a penny is stolen? Not so simple.
A high bank interest will ruin any manufacturer and leave people without wages. But the liberal government of Russia "does not understand" this.

[although]

Did you have the honor to work with the Spetsstroy of Russia? I had one time. To get the full amount from them to civil subcontractors is what seven circles of hell go through, it’s good that there was an advance! And why pay people? for taxes would be enough, I do not advise anyone to climb into this swamp.

[3vs]

Thieves just to the wall!

[Kibalchish]

In Russia, thieves of this magnitude are beyond jurisdiction.

[Motherland Russia]

It means to make it accessible - for any "twisted tail, there will always be more twisted".
There would be an interest.

[Sirocco]

The head of Spetsstroy of Russia, A.Volosov, flew to the cosmodrome to remove the problem with salaries and negligent subcontractors.

It’s not a problem to be removed, but those who create this problem, and it’s not necessary to remove them, but to shoot them like in China, others won’t.
Impunity breeds permissiveness.
So in Sochi, they made a golden springboard, now the launch pad is the same.
It's time to answer all these businessmen, to attract, not letting them run over the hill.
And that would not run away, pour them knee-deep in concrete.
It’s completely overgrown.

[Junior, I]

why only knee-deep?
Poured into the stove and forgot. May it serve forever for the good of the fatherland.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Sirocco

We must not remove the problem, but those who create this problem, and Do not shoot them, but shoot them as in China, others will not be habituated.
Impunity breeds permissiveness.
So in Sochi, they made a golden springboard, now the launch pad is the same.

Poor, stupid Pinocchio Americans want to transfer the 2018 Championship from us to another country (do not go to a fortuneteller, which one), motivating them with sanctions and FIFA will allow us to earn money in the championship. Stupid bourgeoisie! The whole world makes money at the Olympics and championships - except for Russia! Nobody earns anything at our place, only those who fill the design estimates with pockets fill our pockets. Theft of bureaucrats contractors can be called the enrichment of Russia?

And about the executions - that's right. The only measure of impact remained. They are not afraid of anything else. "The head of the Spetsstroy of Russia A. Volosov flew to the cosmodrome to remove the problem with the salary"? So to him it is pocket money. How Serdyukov annual maintenance of a company of soldiers. Only executions, and public. I'm not bloodthirsty, it's a shame for my homeland ...

[bondman]

Pictured are the Afghanistan-Iranian border and easy money lovers? A rather unusual way of using construction equipment however ..

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: screamer

On the picture are the Afghanistan-Iranian border and easy money lovers? Enough an unusual way of using construction equipment however ..

Well, I didn’t speak about the documentary nature of the photograph, I didn’t say that it was from the Vostochny cosmodrome. This is just a proposal, as you rightly noted, for the use of construction equipment with thieves-contractors. And there are asphalt rollers and concrete mixers ....

[jaroff]

The main thing is that the head of Spetsstroy has everything in order with his personal salary. And he will not fly out anywhere. And if that, then it will simply change one warm place to another.

[Terminatorjjck]

Nooo. You don’t have to shoot them. You must return the confiscation of property, but make it work under state supervision.

[msm]

yes make it work

He does not know how to do anything. Even if I wanted to, it would not work out except for cutting.

[taram taramych]

This "Volos A." citizen, the head of "Spetsstroy", must live on the construction site.

[maxcor1974]

Chain: subcontracting customer implies an old money laundering scheme. When one of the links in this chain receives money only for mediation ...
It looks like someone has to answer for this sabbath on the East, I hope there will be bunks for them ...

[ECT]

How far you are from construction, this is a normal scheme and it is normal when subcontractors are hired for special works. Money is made on another: prices, volumes, replacement of materials.

[maxcor1974]

I am really far from construction, but still the question begs, why can’t this be done directly?

[ECT]

When directly on the site there are twenty contractors and everyone is trying to do only his job, he threw his piece of pipe and it is absolutely the same whether there are other communications there or not. At such facilities, they consult for half a day to organize the work of all contractors.
When there is a General Contractor, it’s his headache to organize the coordination of all his sub-partners, to organize site security, work with Gasn, with Rostekhnadzor, and with the Customer

[maxcor1974]

And I thought that Dalspetsstroy acts as the general contractor and everything that you listed refers to his competence, including coordination, security, and so on. And if he (Dalspetsstroy) transfers these functions to some kind of LLC, then what is he for?
Sorry, but I really don't get it.

[Sirocco]

Quote: ECT

When there is a General Contractor, it’s his headache to organize the coordination of all his sub-partners, to organize site security, work with Gasn, with Rostekhnadzor, and with the Customer

But how was it built then during the Soviet era, who was responsible for what, who built it, etc.

[Sirocco]

Quote: ECT

Money is made on the other: prices, volumes, replacement of materials.

I hope that at the appointed time the rocket will take off from the launch, and the launch pad will not collapse after the first launch.
Knowing the appetites of our business community, I assume that problems are still ahead.

[Wheel]

Quote: ECT

How far you are from construction, this is a normal scheme and it is normal when subcontractors are hired for special works. Money is made on another: prices, volumes, replacement of materials.

Maybe (with which I strongly disagree, because accidents and even tragedies from poor-quality construction caused by all sorts of "savings" by subcontractors) manipulations with volumes and replacement of materials are permissible in the civilian sector, but defense facilities do not allow deviations from projects. If now it is not so, then everything is very sad.

PS For some reason, I am not surprised by the mess that is going on with the construction of the cosmodrome, there couldn’t be anything else within the framework of the existing system.

[FID]

The larger the amount stolen, the less likely the landing (Vasiliev, for example, Khoroshavin - another question ...).

[Gardamir]

(Vasiliev, for example, Khoroshavin is another question ...).

It's not about the amounts. As Hero of Russia Serdyukov said, Vasilyeva helped him liquidate inefficient enterprises, so she deserved a medal. And Khoroshavin is just a squeeze and a brake.

[saag]

Quote: SSI

Khoroshavin - another question ..

In my opinion, it is not a question, the money will be taken away and "with a clear conscience and freedom" a la Yevtushenkov

[Nevsky_ZU]

Quote: maxcor1974

Chain: subcontracting customer implies an old money laundering scheme. When one of the links in this chain receives money only for mediation ...
It looks like someone has to answer for this sabbath on the East, I hope there will be bunks for them ...

I propose to take pictures of the entire management of the contractor and the subcontractor as a souvenir, and on the barge to figure out which of them is more important and how did this happen? How could this happen?

[KBR109]

Comrade Zemlyachka if I'm not mistaken ? In this case, they simply don’t have time to disassemble on the barge, for the barge will be simply drowned. And it would be nice in the current situation ...

[Anatole Klim]

Quote: KBR109

And it would be nice in the current situation ...

An extremely unfortunate role model, even in such a situation.
At the direction of Lenin, two “iron Bolsheviks” who fanatically devoted to the Soviet power and enemies who equally hated its enemies were sent to Crimea “to restore order”: Rozalia Zemlyachka, who became secretary of the Crimean regional committee of the Bolshevik party, and Hungarian Comintern Bela Kun, appointed Commissioner for the Crimea. The senseless bloody destruction of all those who laid down their arms and remained on their native land began. And now the numbers are called different: seven, thirty, or even seventy thousand. But even if there are seven, to shoot so many thousands is a job. This is where pathological cruelty manifested itself, which had accumulated for years in Rosalia Zalkind for years. The demon broke free. It was Zemlyachka who said: "It's a pity to spend ammo on them, to drown them in the sea." Destruction took terrible forms, the convicts were loaded onto barges and drowned at sea. Just in case, they tied a stone to their feet, and for a long time later, standing dead, rows were visible through clear sea water. They say that, tired of paper work, Rosalia loved to sit behind a machine gun. During the first winter, 96 thousand people out of 800 thousand of the Crimean population were shot. The slaughter lasted for months. On November 28, Izvestia of the Provisional Sevastopol Revolutionary Committee published the first list of executed persons - 1634 people, on November 30 the second list - 1202 people. Over a week, more than 8000 people were shot by Bela Kun in Sevastopol alone, and such executions took place throughout Crimea, machine guns worked day and night. Rosalia Zemlyachka hosted in the Crimea so that the Black Sea turned red with blood.http: //www.c-cafe.ru/days/bio/24/028_24.php

[KBR109]

"An officer or an official who has served as a quartermaster, even though it has been about three years, can be safely hanged - WILL BE FOR WHAT." A.V.Suvorov. He hung it up - he was not at all shy. Oh, how not democratic ... Let me remind you KLIM: it was about the managers of the contractor and the subcontractor and not about the population ... of Crimea. Read carefully.

[Anatole Klim]

Quote: KBR109

Let me remind you KLIM: it was about the managers of the contractor and subcontractor and not about the population ... of the Crimea. Read carefully

I completely agree with you that thieves, corrupt officials, and bribe takers should be punished, but only to the fullest extent of the court and the measures provided for by the legislation of the Russian Federation. If there is a punishment in Russian law, to drown on a barge, then I have nothing against it. But I consider it inappropriate to cite the example of the atrocity of the maniac Rosalia Zalkind.

an official who has served as a quartermaster, even though it has been three years or more, can be safely hanged - THERE WILL BE FOR WHAT. "AV Suvorov. He hanged - he was not at all shy.

The great Suvorov said so, because in his youth, for some time, he served in the Indodenda department, just like his father, and knew the system from the inside (while remaining honest people), by the way, Generalissimo Suvorov did not sign a single order for his long service execution of a subordinate (although he had the right), the guilty person was brought to justice.

[KBR109]

The laws meant an adequate response to the thief, and not "verbal censure", like now. In other words, the legislation of the Russian Federation, as you have deigned to say, does not provide a damn about economic crimes. From the word "absolutely". A chicken or a sack of potatoes doesn't count.

[Anatole Klim]

Quote: KBR109

In other words, the legislation of the Russian Federation, as you have deigned to say, does not provide a damn about economic crimes. From the word "absolutely".

Thank you at least for not accusing me that these laws are "absolutely", that I developed and adopted them. I always go to elections and vote for those deputies who advocate tougher penalties for corruption and bribery, but for some reason they rarely win, and now they are not even imprisoned for bribes, but fined. There is one more factor called “I don’t give up mine”. Well, something like that, a colleague, but the example with Rosalia Zalkind is still unfortunate.

[ARS56]

Bankers make money on loans. The rest pick up the crumbs. The predatory bank interest set by the liberal government of Russia will destroy and ruin any producer, especially an honest one.

[Rurikovich]

Corruption and cutting funds in its purest form! Maybe it’s worth going the radical way - those caught red-handed to the wall and that’s all, the rest will not steal ... You won’t lift Stalin from the grave so that order can be restored!
It's my personal opinion

[sv68]

why not remember Stalin !!!

[veteran66]

Sure! Under the "father of all peoples" at that cosmodrome, the hunger strike would have been eternal and would not interfere with work, they would have worked without wages, for a bowl of liquid gruel made of fish heads.

[sds87]

Here is no need to LIE! Make a monster out of Stalin. Yes, all our "democrats" have already killed so many people in Russia that Stalin never dreamed of. But at the same time - Stalin - bloody and executions by hundreds of thousands and millions. Only a complete IDIOT can believe such a thing.

[saag]

Quote: sds87

Here is no need to LIE!

What is now called DalSpetsStroy was formerly called Dalstroy and worked there almost without any mechanization, so no exaggeration

[veteran66]

And no one defends "our democrats", it is simply impossible to justify one by referring to another, even worse. I now think that under Stalin, all kinds of forums were hardly possible at all, well, of course, except for those who are for "the best friend of all athletes." Just like in Ukraine now.

[Uzer 13.]

It is necessary for these leaders of Dalspetsstroy to select a job that is more appropriate for their qualifications, with a shovel in their hands at the construction of the same cosmodrome.

[Vadim237]

I believe that for the construction of such strategic facilities, it is necessary to create a state construction company, so that there would not be any left subcontractors.

[Junior, I]

Do you think there will not be a cut?
The FSB and the Ministry of Finance should work here every day, check, identify, export to the forest and shoot for prevention.

[Bully]

Quote: Younger, I

Do you think there will not be a cut?
The FSB and the Ministry of Finance should work here every day, check, identify, export to the forest and shoot for prevention.

There is no need for such extremes. You just need to control the process, i.e. not only give instructions, but also track how they are being implemented. About 7 years ago, I witnessed such a "correct" work on the part of the General Contractor at one energy facility under construction. He held meetings in this way: he collected all the subchikov (and there are often more than a dozen of them) and, if he saw that the situation was reaching a dead end (the issue was not resolved, the subchikov nodded at each other) calmly and insinuatingly said: “Until the issue is resolved, no one will leave the meeting, as in the Vatican when the Pope was elected. " People began to fuss, call, consult - as a result, any issue was resolved. People, that we have, that over the hill, in principle, are not very different. And if they are not taken by the udder in time, they begin to relax. And at such a construction site, you can't relax, you must always be in good shape as in Soviet times - that's the whole secret.

[Mik13]

Quote: Bully

He held meetings in this way: he collected all the subchikov (and there are often more than a dozen of them) and, if he saw that the situation was reaching a dead end (the issue was not resolved, the subchikas nod at each other) calmly and insinuatingly said: no one will leave the meeting, as in the Vatican when the Pope was elected. " People began to fuss, call, consult - as a result, any issue was resolved.

I still need to drink beer and not let out the toilet ... In an hour everything will be decided ...
The main thing is that the object does not fall apart later.

[creak]

Quote: Vadim237

I believe that for the construction of such strategic facilities, it is necessary to create a state-owned construction company,

It is true, and such an organization already exists - Spetsstroy of Russia - the largest STATE construction organization in the field of construction of strategic and sensitive facilities. Currently, he is constructing the Vostochny cosmodrome. That's it.
Will we create another one or try to restore order to the one that already exists?

[Vadim237]

Vostochny is building not only Spetsstroy, but also a dozen subcontractors in them and problems.

[Kochegarkin]

it's time to end in the country b ... in with budget money ...
I personally know (albeit at the city / district level) how the budget is being cut ...
representatives from the customer responsible for financial provision - to the wall with confiscation of property ...
contractor - to the wall with confiscation of property to the 7th knee ...
sub-warders - to Kolyma (they steal less than the previous ones) ...
IMHO !!!

[Bugor]

And how yesterday, Mr. Volosov sang for us sweetly that everything is under the control of the president, everything is getting better, everything is nonsense ...
He brought two drawing machines! This is at a time when you can cram drawings of the entire cosmodrome with estimates and percents onto the most preposterous flash drive!
While sheep and uniformed sheep will stand at the head of the state and such special forces, the workers will have nothing to eat ...
Have come ...

[ECT]

You can bring a USB flash drive, but to put the facility into operation, you need exactly the drawings with the Customer's stamp "in production of work", but just a flash drive Nah ren is not needed by the komum, when it comes to arbitration, he needs paper,

[Kombrig]

Quote: ECT

You can bring a USB flash drive, but to put the facility into operation, you need exactly the drawings with the Customer's stamp "in production of work", but just a flash drive Nah ren is not needed by the komum, when it comes to arbitration, he needs paper,

+ EKTu correctly painted everything, I’ll add that it is more convenient to work with paper on site than with electronic ... Respectfully to all builders)))))

[Bugor]

You do not need two trucks for this. It is enough to have a plotter on the object and a person with a seal.
Just the designers, based on my experience, can’t take their asses off the seats and go to the facility. Directly at the facility to gather designers, customer representatives. Discuss all the questions and edit the project right away. Slap Seal - Work. Immediately, glavinzh grabbed the blueprints, kicked the foremen and screw everything up ....

[ECT]

You do not need two trucks for this. It is enough to have a plotter on the object and a person with a seal.
Just the designers, based on my experience, can’t take their asses off the seats and go to the facility. Directly at the facility to gather designers, customer representatives. Discuss all the questions and edit the project right away. Slap Seal - Work. Immediately, glavinzh grabbed the blueprints, kicked the foremen and screw everything up ....
Well, you describe this ideal option, I just did it, closed the designers in the change house and said, until you agree everything, you will not get out of here, after two hours they agreed, before that they could not issue a decision for four months.

[GRAY]

Quote: Bugor

And how yesterday, Mr. Volosov sang for us sweetly that everything was under the control of the president,

But there is still control, otherwise Stroyindustriya would have enough money to pay its employees. These guys were very keen on stealing, but at some point they did not manage to overstate the cost of work and materials, and as a result, they had a financial priest.

The management of the Ideal company, which is involved in the construction of the Vostochny cosmodrome in the Amur Region, terminated the contracts with the Stroyindustriya subcontractor, which owed its employees more than 14 million rubles in salary payments. This was announced on Friday by Oleg Dokuchaev, deputy general director for economic security of the Ideal company.
"Stroyindustriya employees have been offered assistance in finding a job. Those who want to join us, we are ready to accept them; from the moment they start working in our company, they will be guaranteed a stable salary," Dokuchaev said in a commentary provided to TASS by Valeria Timokhova, head of the Dalspetsstroy press service ...
According to Dokuchaev, Ideal is working under an agreement with Dalspetsstroy at the command post of the cosmodrome. “We offer the most loyal conditions, up to the payment of part of the debt for the past employer to former employees of Stroyindustriya,” he explained.
For those employees who do not want to go to work at Ideal, the company is ready to pay the fare home.

Earlier, the press service of the Prosecutor's Office of the Amur Region reported that Stroyindustria owed 214 employees over 14 million rubles in January-February 2015. On March 31, the company began paying off debts. Debt repayment is under the special control of the supervisory authority. The general director of the enterprise, Sergey Terentyev, assured TASS that this procedure would be completed by April 10.

[fomkin]

Uglanov wrote an article in "AN" about good and bad swindlers in connection with the well-known idea of ​​capital amnesty. Here is just one moment. 65% of convicts are imprisoned for bribes up to 10 thousand rubles. Taking a little is dangerous. This is probably also known to the crooks in charge of the construction of the cosmodrome.

[ILDM1986]

because small bribes do not hire a normal lawyer and do not unfasten the investigator / prosecutor / judge, there is nothing to share with a higher thief to cover up. So yes, if you steal a loaf of bread and sit for 1 year, and if you steal a million, they will give a medal and a raise in the meadow. but it is necessary in the second case to the wall ...

[isker]

He took in air and barked so that the windows flickered:
“Give me Lyapkina-Tyapkina here!” Urgently! Call by phone!
- So it's impossible to file ... the phone is broken.
- Ah! Has broken! Is the wire broken? So that he does not dangle for nothing, hang on him the one who reports !!
Fathers! What started here!
“Have mercy, sir ... what the hell ... this ... heh heh ... just a minute ... hey!” Masters! Wire! Now they will fix it.
In two accounts, repaired and filed.

classics of the genre

[DIVAN SOLDIER]

And where is the vaunted anti-corruption committee.

[3axap]

Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER

And where is the vaunted anti-corruption committee.

Answer you or you yourself know the answer Excuse me for the humor, the article seems to be about serious. About theft and about the fact that at such an object, workers began a hunger strike. Probably 98% of Furom residents have long been waiting for "LANDING" from the president and the government. When, when will the people see justice? I guess I won’t wait.

[veksha50]

Quote: 3axap

Answer you or you yourself know the answer

You would have to rhyme and rhyme ... Karaganda is already gone ... And the other way openly call ...

[fif21]

Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER

And where is the vaunted anti-corruption committee

Where is the corruption here? Ordinary theft. 30-40% of budget funds are simply plundered. Struck by something else, the worker says: "I understand that STRIKING IS NOT GOOD, but already the edge (patience)" Since when has it become not good to defend your interests? Where are the independent trade unions, where is the criminal code? Where are the political organizations fighting for the rights and freedoms of citizens? There is nothing, everything is bought and sold. Therefore, the revolutions in Russia are not over yet! A hungry and angry worker is more terrible than the special forces and policemen, the Russian revolt is bloody and merciless.

[Shadowcat]

I wonder what will happen to Rogozin and what he will do ...

"I will not allow sabotage. I will tear off the heads of those who steal at least a ruble at the Vostochny cosmodrome. Those who steal will stay in prison, I promise."

RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/space/20150310/1051810757.html#ixzz3WK2QENZp

[creak]

Quote: ShadowCat

I wonder what will happen to Rogozin and what he will do ...

Yes, nothing will happen to him and Volosov, you can not worry ...
And what he will do, he voiced in one of the interviews - students will finish building the cosmodrome, like this ... He doesn’t seem to see any other way - you can arrange another clean-up ...

[bannik]

Only "these are the heads of those who need heads" (c) and they do not steal a ruble, and it is not customary for us to plant "monuments".

[goblin xnumx]

he didn’t specify - where they will sit, they both sit and they get their salaries and bonuses, Rogozin keeps his word:) - although not quite, his head is also in place, well, it says, misuse of funds is not a theft :)

[Loner_53]

About 300 employees have not received wages since the beginning of 2015. Total debt to workers exceeded 14 million rubles
Here she is taking care of her people, we’ll go far if even at such a significant construction site

[Vishnevsky]

And the rest, a beautiful marquise, all is well, all is well))) As in Yeltsin’s times!

[Kos_kalinki9]

steal. Times change, but the slogan remains!

[ODERVIT]

It's a shame that these eructations continue to manifest. Well, we build everything, we manufacture, but we did not know how to arrange it according to the first class. And yet, we eat, and people will not be forgotten and the launches will go according to plan. All in our, dear, "Uh ..... uhnem".

[k-239]

There is no need to shoot, send for the construction of roads, as in Germany, new BAM, Belomorkanal (you can directly from Ladoga to the Pacific Ocean), etc. With the confiscation of everything from the family and relatives. Work for soldering, did not fulfill the norm, lose weight. In a month or two they will become slim or die. Until the country comes to democracy "from each according to his ability, to each according to his work", there will be no order in the country. And in the forefront of these construction brigades, successful managers who are now at the helm of the authorities should dig. In this particular case, this Volosov should receive the first shovel, and not "remove the problem" that arose under his direct supervision!

[DIVAN SOLDIER]

It seems that here, people who should be involved in the fight against corruption, are themselves corrupt!

[Alekseir162]

It seems that here, people who should be involved in the fight against corruption, are themselves corrupt!

I, too, sometimes get this impression. The trouble is that it has become a system and is regulated only in manual mode and only by the president, though not always. It may be stupid to say and many will say that this is commonplace, but I will still say: "What if there is war tomorrow?" We must do something, dear gentlemen-comrade chiefs.

[s1н7т]

Quote: Alekseir162

Dear gentlemen, comrades, bosses must do something.

To begin with, hang the "gentlemen", and then it will go by itself

[Alekseir162]

To begin with "gentlemen" hang

Unfortunately, the death penalty has been abolished here, and the complete confiscation of property is not provided, but the mice (thieves are vile) of the cat (in the sense of the law) are not afraid.

[fif21]

Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER

It seems that here, people who should be involved in the fight against corruption, are themselves corrupt!

Thank you have fun! Just got it?

[mag nit]

The budget money was cut so illiterate that the workers didn’t have enough for the salary ... We need to introduce a cutting institute. Where does the plush look?

[Komynist]

If now they do not begin to take harsh measures against such filth stealing from their people. And if the oligarchs continue to take away the welfare and minerals of the country, then you look and achieve troubled times in Russia. After all, people are tired of living promises in the not far better future, which was given with every change of our government. It’s good that there is Vladimir Putin who began to do something for the country in which the people believed. I hope you don’t have to give up.

[old pioneer]

Employment agencies offering employment in the construction of the cosmodrome, of course through sub-subcontractors, estimate the 30-day shift of a qualified specialist at 45t.r. (I saw it myself). It is clear why there are not enough people.

[udincev]

Yeah! It’s not a lot with the shift, the importance and responsibility of the work, the qualifications of specialists (probably not guys with shovels are gathering land to throw from the fence until lunch).
And how much do managers, top and other "leading" managers of the general contractor, contractors, sub-contractors get in case of missed deadlines, non-payment of wages to workers, etc.?
I am sure here, including, the dog is buried !!!

[zsdk]

It was not necessary to hold high-profile meetings on the situation with delays in construction, but to transfer the entire leadership of the very construction, to sailor silence and then figure it out. And not to scam in advance giving the opportunity to cover up tracks or hide.

[ejov1976]

Tenders win strange offices, and then they are surprised that something is wrong there, then it’s not right

[wandlitz]

The situation was similar at the Olympic construction sites in Sochi. I know a man who has not been paid a decent amount of money by our Kurgan standards. A person worked at a construction site, got as he says only 60% of the earned. And I believe that the employer from the state has received everything.

[Aleksandr78]

Quote: Rurikovich

Corruption and cutting funds in its purest form! Maybe it’s worth going the radical way - those caught red-handed to the wall and that’s all, the rest will not steal ... You won’t lift Stalin from the grave so that order can be restored!
It's my personal opinion

Quote: sv68

why not remember Stalin !!!

Anecdote on the topic: Vladimir Vladimirovich is sleeping, and Joseph Vissarionovich dreams of him.
Putin asks Stalin:
“Can I help you somehow?”
- Why is everything bad with us, the economy is falling apart, etc.
What should I do?
Stalin, without hesitation, replies:
- To shoot the entire government and paint the walls of the Kremlin in blue.
“But why in blue?”
- I assumed that the discussion will be only on the second issue.

[goblin xnumx]

I dare to suggest that the discussion will arise just on the first question - the second question would cause a discussion by the sphorumite :)

[ArhipenkoAndrey]

But this is just sabotage, practically subcontractors are spoiling the state and this is nothing more than a disruption to the program for the construction of the Vostochny cosmodrome, or at least its delay and it’s just criminals and it’s just a criminal offense, no economy is just a betrayal of the homeland.

[P. Yaroslav]

It's a shame. The 90s ended, but the lawlessness remained .. I myself work at a construction site and I observe a similar picture: Our company (general contractor) paid subam money, and they, in turn, didn’t make a ruble to their employees ... Until our general director threatened to break the contract continued. And here it seems, the same situation. Gene. the contractor must tightly control the sub.

[mark1]

Quote: P. Yaroslav

Our company (general contractor) paid subam money

As a rule, this situation is not typical, usually subcontractors are the most disenfranchised link in the construction hierarchy (he himself was subcontracting in 90%), money is not paid (or with a long delay) for any reason and just like that, but you are responsible for everything. True, we tried not to delay the workers' wages, we took out loans (the result - "Bobik is dead")

[Vishnevsky]

And here after the Olympics and Crimea, we think that the state is reborn, but in fact, everything is not so rosy. People are held for, then they are surprised where the seaside partisans came from.

[creak]

Quote: Vishnevsky

And here after the Olympics and Crimea, we think that the state is reborn, but in fact, everything is not so rosy.

They say correctly - if it seems to you that everything is going as it should, then most likely not everyone tells you ..

[veksha50]

"The backlog of the construction schedule in a number of sectors of the facility has reached 100 days, in connection with which the programs of the first starts from the "Vostochny" are in limboand"...

It seems to me that there are two main reasons:
First, the local leadership remembered the shadow schemes of scrolling in commercial salaries based on the experience of the early 90s for personal gain:
Second, not all "leaders" support Putin and his policies, as a result, this is one of the multi-step positions to undermine his authority ...

Here is the phrase that I "ripped" from the text, the Investigative Committee should be taken as a basis, find the "ends" and the guilty ones and be tried for undermining the state economy and security to the fullest extent of the law ...

P, s. Not like Taburetkin ... Here is just an example of his invulnerability and unsinkability is one of the reasons for what happened at the cosmodrome ...

[Kos_kalinki9]

Do not touch TABURETKIN !!!! He ordered the Mistral for Russia !!!! The truth is that it still does not work to get the ordered and paid, but this is so, the costs.

[Kos_kalinki9]

In the topic of theft

[provincial]

Without a command from above in our country, even a teal does not jump up. No wonder Rogozin remembered sabotage. This hydra's head is in Moscow.

[chunga-changa]

Yesterday, an uncle from the special building told in detail how everything is fine in the east and there’s nothing to worry about, the work is in full swing and everything will be delivered on time. True, there is not enough money again, somewhere has gone, but the management has an opinion that the designers are to blame. So people do not have to starve, undermining the authority of the leadership of the special building, but to look for designers and beat their faces, the designers will immediately give money and everything will work out. Profit ...

[Junior, I]

Rogozin su.ka, should live there at this construction site, and not fatten in Moscow and Twitter for days on end.

[Rostislav]

Impunity breeds permissiveness.

I completely agree! If such a mess is going on at the construction of the cosmodrome, then what about other, less significant objects?
It is high time to get rid of such "managers". If you can't cope - to dismiss, and only then find out the reason. If you don't know how - look for a simpler job, theft (synonymous with sabotage) - to the answer.
And why is the clear definition of "theft" universally replaced by a streamlined "saw cut"? Are they shy? Or so that your eyes do not pierce? It is the state who steals, i.e. our money.

[31rus]

Dear, what does it mean to begin termination of the contract? Reimburse all plus all costs plus moral damage, all from without law and without punishment, I think further more, Western technologies begin to work and there’s nothing to oppose them

[Humpty]

What had Rogozin been in nirvana before and controlled everything? As a former journalist, it was time for him to deal with the affairs of strikes of workers. Already got this unscrupulous theft at the spaceport. How much it can be tolerated, like any large object, so theft and dirt.
Putin, of course, will chide someone, and that will end.

[vanavatny]

and there are so many formidable screams, everything is in everyone’s control, but it turned out to be a loss of control ... shame

[Rrrj]

The pyramid was built - the contractor - the subcontractor - the managing office - ... - ... - now look for fistulas - who is to blame - as if for the first time - Rogozin does not know what he is doing there.

[Mviktor]

For stealing billions from the budget mercilessly scolding and firing and send abroad

[Vishnevsky]

And why are subcontractors needed? These loafers! Without intermediaries in any way?

[QWERTY]

Yes, subcontractors are building it. The rest of the gaskets only saw money.

[runway]

On March 16, Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation Rogozin was at the Vostochny Cosmodrome.
I got acquainted with the problems of more than a double shortage of the number of builders, untimely payment of salaries to them, untimely deliveries of components by supplying companies and the allocation of financing from the state budget.
Rogozin went there with the intention of "ripping off his head." But remembering his statements that he comes to the site every month and knows all the problems, it dawned on him that he would not be able to stay away. THE SUPERVISOR of construction, whatever one may say, but the answer will have to be kept .... Will he be able to blame all his sins on Lyapkin-Tyapkin? We will see.

[bear]

Shoot all the bosses and the point, for undermining the country's defense.

[x587x]

Forget it, not 37 years old!

[KBR109]

Quote: SSI

The larger the amount stolen, the less likely the landing (Vasiliev, for example, Khoroshavin - another question ...).

You have voiced the axiom and dogma of the current economic situation in the country. Here's an American proverb of the late 19th century for comparison. "If you steal a piece of bread, then you will go to jail. If you steal the railroad, YOU WILL BE CHOSEN TO SENATOR." What are we in Russia today and observe.

[s1н7т]

Quote: KBR109

Quote: SSI

The larger the amount stolen, the less likely the landing (Vasiliev, for example, Khoroshavin - another question ...).

You have voiced the axiom and dogma of the current economic situation in the country. Here's an American proverb of the late 19th century for comparison. "If you steal a piece of bread, then you will go to jail. If you steal the railroad, YOU WILL BE CHOSEN TO SENATOR." What are we in Russia today and observe.

Here we quickly caught up with America!

[Prager]

such a tidbit, so as not to steal - God himself ordered to steal, it’s far from the mask, perhaps they will not notice. was it really impossible to instruct our vaunted FSB to track the progress of each ruble spent on the construction site? Olympic theft-2, otherwise you will not name.

[MIKHALYCH1]

I think sabotage .. Look for someone who benefits! I already wrote .. The execution article needs to be entered in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation! And in the same place to execute the sentence .. (regardless of status) They steal the bastards! Rogozin you promised to sort it out ... We are waiting!

[RosUkrBel]

Quote: Tankograd

Quote: sasha 19871987

who saves on people so godlessly, you just have to close

I would say "bury", the lesson will be much more effective for others ...

It’s necessary in China, for all the shooting, then they’ll think ...

[udincev]

Quote: RosUkrBel / quote

It’s necessary in China, for all the shooting, then they’ll think ...

The experience and results of China, and even more of Singapore’s conscientious dictator, are impressive!
Countries from nightmare mud - to the foremost riches !!!

[Koshel2901]

It is time to leave the European institutions and introduce the death penalty back. HAPPOW to execution!

[act]

The management system does not work, everything is the old fashioned way, unfortunately.

[Tambov Wolf]

And why did everyone flip? Nothing will happen to anyone. We are not 37 years old. Well, they are scolding everything. And hard workers, but who needs them. Liberals are sitting at the helm.

[am808s]

Hard workers are just not enough there, but they won’t go there. Even at the beginning of construction they assumed that there would be. And young people rushed there because of inexperience.

[Kos_kalinki9]

I just read the news that sniper exercises have begun in the eastern military district. So maybe they can be transferred to the construction site of the Vostochny cosmodrome? To dismantle those who do not pay their salaries.

[Ze Kot]

Quote: Kos_kalinki9

So maybe they can be transferred to the construction site of the Vostochny cosmodrome? For a showdown with those who do not pay wages.

So it's in another region and the city you need to transfer snipers

[shadow]

And if it's disinformation, then what?

[am808s]

The thieves! THE THIEVES!!! These are NOT thieves anymore - they are enemies of Russia and the people, and since there is a war going on, they must act according to the laws of war!

[Oleneboy_]

On such shifts, as a rule, lawlessness happens...it is entirely Rogozin’s and other leaders’ fault for poorly controlling such construction

[Metlik]

The head of Spetsstroy of Russia, A.Volosov, flew to the cosmodrome to remove the problem with salaries and negligent subcontractors.

And I would like: The head of the Special Construction of Russia, A. Volosov, flew out of his chair.

[AMEXEMA]

THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE FSB IS BUSY UNLOADING WARRIORS WITH MUCH, AND THEY SHOULD BE PLANTED IN BUNCHES... UNTIL THE WEIGHT OF THE FSB UNIT STARTS DOING BUSINESS, NOTHING GOOD WILL NOT GROW IN OUR FIELD OF MIRACLES...

[Ze Kot]

The head of Spetsstroy is not in the know, Rogozin is not in the know, the schedule is more than 100 days behind schedule... What is the management doing there anyway? This is an indicator of absolute incompetence! At a minimum, such people should be removed from their positions. And the fine for contractors is huge!

[Iceberg]

Spring has arrived, it's time to plant.

[serg papillon]

I wonder how many people know that in other less visible companies, for the far-fetched reason of the crisis, salaries are delayed? Have you been detained before? Do you know why? the answer is simple - it’s profitable...what is the fine for delaying wages - pennies, but if you take the same money from the bank, pay huge interest rates.. Let the government finally wake up and raise fines for those who don’t pay wages to the level of 50% per month from amount of debt!!! For example, you owe 30 thousand rubles for a month and do not pay the next month their debt is 45 thousand rubles, another month 67,5 thousand rubles ... and so on ...
Personally, I am sure that the delays will begin to decrease sharply, and then stop altogether.. Yes, many businessmen are dishonest (not all of them, of course) - but there are few fools among them and they know how to count money (at least within some limits)..
But the fact that there is a problem with non-payment of wages and the punishment for this is meager is something that only the government decides and no one else. Why hasn’t this been done until today? Here’s a question... Maybe Ragozin or Medvedev will answer us - but I personally think they have no problems with non-payment of salaries. Probably they have tasks on a planetary scale and do not stoop so low to the level of hard workers, but on the other hand there are no normal salaries - there are no specialists .. which means there will be no one to carry out their tasks.

[vvvvv]

State control of certain areas and processes is indicative here.
Everywhere real w.o.p.a. In Armenia, they don’t check the attitude of the military personnel who then shoot families. Now, three months have passed since the beginning of 2015 and the authorities are speaking directly about what is happening to workers’ wages.
And so I think - a “zaputinist”...
There are other, even more egregious examples that I know directly. For example, that in Russia there are entire fraudulent networks of companies operating that scam people on contracts and at the same time scam the state on taxes. And the authorities condone all this.
As a system, the state does not work. This means there are no proper mechanisms and people on the ground...
The point is not even that I personally have been screwed in such a way that I am disappointed by these and other existing moments, but that with the way things are going in Russia, we are all in trouble...

[kelevra]

What the hell, how can you not see through the theft of such huge funds for such a construction project! Find who is stealing and cut off their hands, like in China! These are pure traitors, undermining the internal security of Russia!

[kubanec]

I'm sick of capitalism!!! Ordinary workers are hired almost everywhere! The bourgeoisie are not afraid of anything these days!...this whole situation is offensive!

[Vladimir.]

Quote: ksan

Russians are not crests

So far we have such a situation at the state level. objects is happening and the people responsible for this are sitting in the government - we will be slaves, because. we work, we buy apartments (in the Russian Federation they are at the prices of private islands), we buy cars that can be bought abroad for 300 thousand rubles, in our country after customs they cost 800 thousand or more, and then we pay taxes for all this (although Why should I give it to other uncles who don’t work at all, but receive such a salary that ordinary citizens (and even honest ones) would never even dream of, and if we add in the fact that they also steal, then ordinary citizens will have such astronomical sums They can’t even count, because such numbers haven’t been invented yet.

If our officials don’t understand the words, we need to act! Drive the tank to the mayor’s office or somewhere else (where they steal) and walk through the windows 4 times. They’ll stop stealing quickly! Where can we get a tank from? So we pay for them, not the officials! Our own cars and They buy army tanks with our money, and store theirs in banks, which they themselves own and save for old age. Yes, they save so much that another 7-8 generations will be able to live without working.

[am808s]

This is exactly what the liberal liberals are pushing us to do, so that we go out and start hanging and burning. their whole calculation is that we have no brains and we will jump like crazy

[Dejavu]

I live in the Amur region. Several acquaintances tried their luck at the cosmodrome as workers and shift workers. The reviews are the most disgusting. Worthless salaries in the region of 15 thousand rubles. and everything reeked of theft. It is very sad that such a serious organization as Spetsstroy failed to find worthy partners for the construction of such an important facility.

[aleksfill]

"....The lag behind the construction schedule in a number of sectors of the facility has reached 100 days..."
Then what kind of arrears of wages are we talking about, 100 days is that - some don’t receive
since the beginning of 2015. Is it the contractor's fault for the delay? Contract, penalties, seizure of accounts, property,
what problems?

[Pomah]

14 lyams for a salary... Shameful people - they don’t pay such pennies, or rather!!!!! We have forgotten our “effective managers” who actually work and do not put forward creative ideas...

[Pablo. 1970]

Why not send Mr. Rogozin to hell, huh?!!!!
Let this “effective” manager plant potatoes in his dacha and lose weight in his face... otherwise his bordy face no longer fits on the TV screen.

And we also need to look at those in the government who hire such performers.
Somehow Putin has become very bad in terms of personnel selection... apparently there are only thieves around him)))

[Kovlad]

I once noted in the comments, look at the faces of Rogozin and Khinshtein, they spat on me. And they have the same EYES! Equally running, slits, cunningly made. So all the elements don't surprise me at all.

[Wheel]

Quote: Pablo. 1970

Something Putin has become really bad at recruiting...

Was he ever good at recruiting?
When?

Quote: Pablo. 1970

Apparently there are only thieves around him)))

The apple doesn't go very far from the cherry (folk wisdom).

[sam19730]

In Soviet times, for theft on an especially large scale, logging would have been punished for 15 years at best, although most likely there would have been a ROW!!!

[Tribuns]

There are “cuts”, but when will the “plantings” begin?
In the conditions of “management” of “effective” managers-leaders who “sawing” budget funds with impunity in all Russia’s undertakings to strengthen the military-economic position of the country, the issue of “planting” these “cutters” is acute - because the “cutting” continues, and no matter...
“The sawers” ​​are inspired by the impunity of their previously active heroes: Serdyukov, Vasilyeva and others, who snatched billions of budget rubles from the army...

[jaroff]

I just divided 14 million rubles. for 3 months and for 126 people. I received a little more than 37 rubles. per month. Not the biggest salary. And for that kind of money, in such conditions, and even with the risk that they won’t pay... We need to get out of there.

[Lelek]

Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation Dmitry Rogozin, who is in charge of the program for the construction of a new cosmodrome in the Amur region, promised to deal with this outrageous situation.

Rogozin, we need to get things done, not just victorious reports blah blah. Several hard workers are not paid for their work, and he only just finds out about this, it’s amazing. You need to lose fat.

[old pioneer]

Wow, what an active feed! Calls are already emerging. And rightly so - the problem touched upon is the most pressing one. And what’s most interesting, in my opinion, is that until the information reaches the GDP, no Rogozins will quickly resolve the situation. Sochi is a striking example.

[Gerurra]

MANIFESTO
We need a slogan everything for Russia !!! Build roads - they will create jobs in many areas - from an asphalt plant to mechanical engineering. Reduce the bureaucracy to the level of the RSFSR. If the official has close relatives abroad, it is forbidden to occupy any government duties. Any official receives a term two to three times longer than a simple citizen for a crime. No house arrests for bureaucrats. For telephone right, arrest (this is when a bureaucrat asks another bureaucrat to smear one of his own) for at least 10 years. Any period for an official should start from 10 years. To be deprived of all rights for 15 years after leaving prison (to build roads forcibly while in jail is refusal to enter the pit). The right to vote and be elected within 15 years after leaving prison. The next of kin are also deprived of their rights for the period of his imprisonment. The employer does not have the right to take migrant workers to their work for more than 10 percent. Violation! Business to select. Check purchases over 300 rubles for their legality (the average salary of the people of Russia for about a year without taxes). Prohibit any offerings under the guise of a gift. For red tape the official is in jail. To return the gold of tsarist Russia with interest from France - the USA –Japan –Czech Republic –England– if they cannot return, let them return it with equipment – ​​technology. In general, barter, and the interest runs for them. Abolish taxes to farmers for 000 years. To stop the increase in gas and gas prices (to build state-owned oil refineries - forbidding to sell them - indefinitely). To return money illegally withdrawn from Russia - by any means. Ban interest on banks above 5. Prohibit offshore operations and participate in them. To return education to the level of the USSR, our nouveau riche now needs illiterate, dumb people like in the USA
To make prisons labor (to build roads) is a refusal due to the fact that in the law I am a pit (for cover from work - the head of the zone to them in a pit). Caught clans of drug dealers of ethnic groups should all be arrested (if they resist, destroyed) together with their relatives and go ahead to explore the Pole of Cold Oymyakon and build a road to Magadan. Ban the construction of large shopping complexes - no more than two - in cities of up to 350 people, without allowing small businesses to die. Yes, it’s cruel, but there’s no way around it now. Do evil for the sake of good. Allow street trading for the duration of the crisis. This will give the people self-employment. Now there are massive reductions and layoffs under the guise of restructuring.

Joseph Vissarionovich, dying, asked to be buried upside down. They ask him - why? He replies, and when things get really bad in the country, people will kiss my ass so that I can resurrect.
People will soon be ready to wake up our grandfathers in order to crush such nits.

[Anchonsha]

Some kind of idiocy. Here Rogozin himself must be punished if he is assigned to control Vostochny. Either it is unknown where 16 billion rubles have gone, or salaries are not paid, or there is a delay in plans to commission the cosmodrome.... Something incomprehensible is happening, as is the case in Medvedev’s government itself.

[vit]

Oh, how the Olympic construction reminds me! some had hundreds of millions in their pockets, and hungry workers walked around the city, exchanging stolen tools for a ticket home. At first, 70% of workers cheated on wages. then everything seemed to get better... of course, we were doing a good job of transferring all sorts of intermediaries back then, but those who stood higher are still well established.

[Aland]

Here are the results of the reboot restructuring
and this will haunt us for a long time,
need to be burned with a hot iron,
How can you not remember Stalin?
yes, officials had benefits but try
fail to complete the task where then they should have looked for you

[barclay]

Quote: Anchonsha

Some kind of idiocy. Here Rogozin himself must be punished if he is assigned to control Vostochny. Either it is unknown where 16 billion rubles have gone, or salaries are not paid, or there is a delay in plans to commission the cosmodrome.... Something incomprehensible is happening, as is the case in Medvedev’s government itself.

I completely agree. Considering the national scale of the construction, the government should also be responsible for such madness. It seems that the government does not know how to work without the personal intervention of the GDP!

[gelezo47]

All this is familiar! Many of us have encountered such a situation. And such a leadership that does not give people wages should be brought to justice! And judged under the article - For causing damage to the state, or treason! And such lawlessness will stop only when the insolent the leadership of these organizations will be in prison...

[21 reg]

They will give everyone a salary, they will calm down, then they will kick everyone out and hire a new one. And the same thing will begin. We need to assign Kadyrov to these contractors, and the ruble will not be written off to the side.

[skobars]

Somehow, back in early 2014, a guy gave me a ride. Before that, he worked for half a year on the construction of this cosmodrome. He told me a lot of interesting things. Even then he said that he had the impression that this cosmodrome would never be built, this is how money is being wasted there. Almost everything has to be redone twice, since even the plans and construction schemes were made without taking into account the terrain and climate. And most importantly, at that time no one cared.

[samarin1969]

Quote: avt

"We're not in '37"

It's a pity!...

[provincial]

All the “builders” are selected by the government, which means it knows what they are capable of. And the thieves too.

[s1н7т]

Quote: Zoldat_A

I'd like to hang a couple of contractors right on the starting table

They will be replaced by new ones, the same ones. Capitalism, however, there are no others. Because the main thing is profit, the rest, incl. and Motherland, secondary.

[IAlex]

It’s as funny as it is sad, and it’s like that everywhere. Yesterday, two more installers out of three quit the company’s workshop, the last one remained for 60 rubles an hour, and his deputy director whose salary was raised to 300 rubles. and says: “Well, it’s time to raise your level of responsibility.” The worker almost punched him in the face :))) On Monday we will find out whether he was fired or not.

“Rogozin promised to imprison those who steal at least a ruble during the construction of the Vostochny cosmodrome” March 10, 2015. Well, we expect some kind of action for our words from the general’s son and balabolka.

Well, and most importantly, give more free gas to Ukraine...

[Gerurra]

One of our directors, having gone to South Korea, saw painted floors. Now we have also decided to paint the paths on the iron floor. But the equipment, both Soviet-made, remained and was not purchased new. And our oligarch’s profit in December 2014 alone was one billion dollars. He grabbed the shares for vouchers and forced the workers to sell the remaining shares without paying wages. When the state gave up its stake, people wrote an application for the purchase of shares of 1000 or more. I wrote for 3000 shares. So the shop manager said it hurts too much if you want. As a result, we received shares from 6 to 17 pieces and that’s it. And whoever is not happy leaves the gate.

[am808s]

Dear, you didn’t understand him, he most likely meant WITHOUT HIS KNOWLEDGE

[KBR109]

Quote: SRC P-15

Quote: KBR109

. Not stolen - I won’t be afraid.

Nowadays, someone can just substitute you, for example, the one who stole. Or will you say that this is not practiced with us? Until they figure out who is right, who is to blame, and you have already been shot. How do you like this?

Well let's leave everything as it is. Let them keep stealing.

[Zomanus]

The other day I read an article on YaP about what they did with that Dalspetsstroy. They stupidly turned it into a feeding trough, where they put all sorts of “respected” people in the leadership to feed. If anyone doesn’t know/remember, the same situation happened during the construction of the APEC summit. Only there the foreign workers went on strike right away, but the management managed to deceive ours for several months with promises. As for me, a suspended sentence should be given to all the top officials who are in charge of the project, so that it would be easier to imprison them after the fact of the investigation. And the confiscation must be done in such a way that only spare panties remain after it.

[Samarin]

Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation Dmitry Rogozin promised to deal with this egregious situation, ... In his microblog on Twitter, Rogozin made the following entry

He promised to look into it on Twitter, young man, well, that’s quite in his style... after all, they’re building a trampoline, whatever...

[Vishnevsky]

We are all from Ukraine laughing and amazed)) We have enough enemies inside. Irresponsibility and negligence!

[ZORKA76]

THIS IS JUST A CONSTRUCTION WORK, AND IF YOU LOOK AROUND THE WHOLE COUNTRY YOU CAN FIND THINGS WRONG... AND THEY SHOW US EVERYTHING ABOUT UKRAINE ROUND THE CLOCK... IT'S TIME TO ESTABLISH ORDER FOR YOURSELF.

[fa2998]

Quote: Sasha 19871987

whoever saves so godlessly in people, you just need to close it for fraud just ... so that it would be disgraceful for others ...

And who will close? All over the country, budget money is being cut, everything is seized, the ends go to Moscow to the top. I myself work for a contractor, we build houses under the program for relocation from dilapidated housing. The state pays millions for apartments, and we work at construction sites for 8000-12000 rubles. Even though we get paid, we’ll go on strike - how can we live on this money. And there’s nowhere to go - the area is depressive.

[Eugene]

The world will be saved by beauty!!! And mass executions!! Like Nekrasov, the literate foreman robbed us...

[toad]

That’s when you remember both Stalin and Beria with a kind word, although I personally never said any evil words about them.

[umka_]

Officials need to sand one place more often. Then they will sit in this place less and start thinking in another place.

[Vorchun]

There's some kind of crap there, two distant relatives came from there. Builders are walking around in droves, greasing something, painting something that was previously built. Naturally IBD (image of vigorous activity). Real construction is not being carried out or not, despite the surplus of builders. They don't pay any money.

[Support]

Yes, there is nothing complicated. Just capitalism in its direct action. The people are nothing, money, excess profits are everything. Only a bullet in the forehead or the back of the head will set such leaders on the right path. Especially special construction. Such an office can immediately be used up. Without hard workers, of course. Fed up with the capitalists.....bastards.....short identical....creatures.

[Zomanus]

By the way, here is an interesting article on this topic, I highly recommend reading it.
Dalspetsstroy, the great construction project of the century, A tale about how to eat a fish and...
http://www.yaplakal.com/forum7/topic1075168.html

[SlavaS]

The article is a continuation of the news, it turns out that a director with 10 years of experience is sitting, the office is closing.

[SlavaS]

For some reason there is silence on the censor. And whatever you say, fix the situation, don’t fix it index.

[wanderer_032]

Well, we’ve made it... Even on construction sites of such importance, “conscientious bosses” and defective managers began to throw away money.

If such construction sites are a complete scam, then what can we say about the situation in the country as a whole.
I really don’t understand how GDP can tolerate this? After all, he regularly tells all Russian citizens that in our country the highest priority activity of the state apparatus is caring for ordinary citizens.

What kind of concern is it when a man, the head of a family, does not receive money for months?
How to support families?
And at the same time, some “officials” are trying to force us to have/give birth to as many children as possible.
Why do we have children? So that they grow up from hand to mouth and leave the thrift store in rags?

Maybe it's finally time to tighten the screws? Yes, so that cheating hard workers out of money was so troublesome and dangerous that such thoughts would not even arise among “conscientious employers.”

I can’t understand, because with such actions these “officials and authorized persons” undermine any and not particularly strong trust in state power, and also undermine the personal authority of the president.
Which for ordinary citizens is the guarantor of the implementation of the Constitution and federal laws throughout Russia.

And for the hard-working guys, science for the future.
In the sense that when you are not paid on time for your work, stop your work and go to hell.
Didn’t the 90s really teach you that you can’t work for free? Why always go to the extreme?
Let these hamadryas have missed delivery deadlines, etc., let them bear losses for equipment downtime and contract failure.
When the customer begins to seriously take an interest in the progress of things, the big office “bigwigs” will feel very bad.
Because They will start to pull them “on the bump” themselves.
Then the money for salary will be found in the shortest possible time and everything else.
You need to be able to stand up for yourself, otherwise they will constantly cheat you out of money or underpay you.

[Rusich is not from Kiev]

Quote: siberalt

All major thieves are in Moscow, who steers the budget. But they are untouchable. The system needs to be changed.

Big thieves cannot be planted not in Moscow, not in Washington. The system must be changed precisely so that there is a red line to where you can steal and sabotage, and where you can no longer.

[Wheel]

Quote: Rusich is not from Kiev

so that there would be a red line to where it is possible to steal and sabotage, and where it is no longer possible.

So, it is still possible and necessary to steal and sabotage, to some extent?
Oh times, about morals!

[Khagysh]

We need to return the death penalty and shoot embezzlers publicly in public squares. Then salaries will be paid on time. During the Olympic construction, Bilyalov (it seems) stole 8 billion and... nothing! But they would have shot at this very construction site, and They wouldn’t steal at the cosmodrome.

[ZORKA76]

Today on the news they will show how someone with a very smart and menacing look will give instructions to investigate and report, then they will show us / or briefly tell us / a scapegoat and happy workers... it’s already becoming disgusting. Maybe stop being like the psakismatists? Maybe we’ll remember about people... After all, they can also remember about you at the most inopportune moment... for you.

[Dinko]

Reminds me of the situation here in Vladik in connection with the APEC construction projects. Again, the bureaucratic crooks are not getting the hang of it. There is no Stalin on them!

[smith7]

You take everything at once and at face value, gentlemen. We need to figure it out from the beginning, and then judge. Rogozin even writes (when I can’t think of him to engage in “writing”) that specialists, led by the head of the special construction, have already left. There can be a wide variety of problems there, and many here are already “getting their revolver out.”