Dahl is calling! ..

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The closer the revival of conscription service in Lithuania, the more details about this appear in the Lithuanian media. Moreover, some details are of such a nature, which gives reason to doubt the seriousness of the undertaking of Mrs. Grybauskaite and Defense Minister Olekas. Before considering the details of the draft service reanimated in Lithuania, it should be recalled that officially young Lithuanians (aged from 19 to 26 years) will be recruited into the Lithuanian army from September of the current year. The initiative of the Ministry of Defense was supported by President Dalia Grybauskaite, and the initiative is also welcomed in Parliament.

Dahl is calling! ..


So, about the details and problems of the lit-conscription, which the head of the defense department of the Baltic republic Juozas Olekas shares.

It turned out that more than others, the resumption of conscription service (for the term of 9 months) was attended to, no, not even mixed rights defenders, but banks. In Lithuania, the situation is such that the majority of financial and credit organizations operating in the country are structural elements of large and not quite large European banks. So, these same banks, as soon as they learned about the plans of the Lithuanian Ministry of Defense, immediately stated that if the draftee had an outstanding loan, then the financial institution was not going to delay payment. Like, let him serve, but only either relatives should pay for the young man, or after nine months of service he will have to repay not only the loan with interest, but also fines for late payments.

Based on the fact that one of the first pitfalls of the lit-appeal was banking institutions, it can be stated that Lithuania is “completely in the European Union”, and Vilnius, which seems to care about its security, should put money above all. The banking message is: here’s how Lithuanian loans, if he has them (and judging by statistics, they have about 38% of potential recruits), pay off, so let the uniform of a conscript soldier put on…

Minister Olekas is trying to justify himself and states that negotiations were underway with the banks, but it was not possible to persuade the financiers to postpone payment of loans and interest. Lithuanian banks agreed to wait for the repayment of the debt on the loan itself, but the interest of the draftee (potential draftee) is still required to pay even during the service.

And what about the credit obligations of the recruit (if there are such obligations for the recruit) are things in Russia? In the Russian case, there is also no official delay provided by the bank, whether by the military registration and enlistment office for a person who becomes a draftee and in fact loses to repay the loan debt. However, in Russia, statistics on “pre-conscripts” - debtors are different than in Lithuania. If in Lithuania there are those of 38%, then in Russia there is about 14%. Not at all ... But in Russia, people who are faced with such a situation have the opportunity to take advantage of Article 451 of the Civil Code of the Russian Federation "Amendment and termination of the contract due to a significant change in circumstances."

From paragraph 1 Art. 451 of the Civil Code of the Russian Federation:
A significant change in the circumstances from which the parties proceeded at the conclusion of the contract is the basis for its change or termination, unless otherwise provided by the contract or follows from its essence.
A change of circumstances is considered significant when they have changed so much that if the parties could reasonably foresee this, the contract would not have been concluded by them at all or would have been concluded on significantly different conditions.


In other words, if the bank did not manage to register the corresponding section in the font of the 7 th point on the 67 page of the 125-page contract, then the recruit has every chance to achieve the termination of the contract. There is, however, an option in which the court can take the side of a conscript, even if the bank has managed to push through the corresponding element in the loan agreement.

The 4 clause of the same 451 article reads:
Amendment of the contract due to a significant change in circumstances is allowed by a court decision in exceptional cases when termination of the contract is contrary to the public interest or entails damage to the parties, far exceeding the costs necessary to execute the contract on conditions changed by the court.


This item, as it turns out, helped tens of thousands of Russian draftees, who were not afraid of going to court, to achieve a review of the loan agreement with simultaneous debt restructuring.

Returning to Lithuania and its appeal-credit peripetias, which prevent Mrs. Grybauskaite from knocking together “an efficient army of recruits” (and there are already thousands of them planned for 3,5), it can be stated that Vilnius has a much more significant problem. Mr. Olekas states that if suddenly a draftee (and in Lithuania young men of military age around 90 thousand) evades the “military service”, then a truly “terrible” punishment awaits him from the state. The whole “horror” of the punishment is that the court will oblige the court to pay a fine in the amount of 144 to 289 euro.
Not thousands of euros, but just euros ... This raises the question: how does Defense Minister Olekas consider whether potential Lithuanian conscripts will bother if they have the opportunity to save the required amount at school lunches, pay the fine and forget about the need to "resist Russian aggression" ... And even more so, will recruits think about how to postpone payments for a loan taken to buy, for example, a car for 10 thousand euros, if you can from Mr. Olekas along with his call to get rid of LaToya some 150 euros ...

But the minister, not without pride, reports that now the literary conscript cannot say that he did not appear at the military registration and enlistment office, since he did not receive the summons. The agenda will be handed to his relatives and employers with a “strong request to transfer”. This Olekas is ridiculous, really ... And why does the minister think that a potential draftee will not say that neither the parents nor the employer handed him the summons? Well, they lost the agenda, and that’s all ... Grandpa accidentally went to the toilet with her ...

Further more! In the Lithuanian Ministry of Defense, they are pondering over how to deal with young people of military age who went to work outside the country to work.

From the law “On Conscription”:
If a person of military age leaves for another country permanently or temporarily, longer than 6 months, no later than one month after departure, the relevant defense department must be informed about the departure, indicate his place of residence, work, study.


This item commented on the Minister Olekas (quote portal Delphi):
If a person travels more than 6 months to wash the dishes in London, then he is obliged to leave his address so that he knows that he is leaving for London, and does not live in Taurage.


Address from London or address in Taurage? If it’s still in London, then the recruit can leave the address in the style of “Baker Street, 221B” ... Olekas himself will go to look for him, or send someone? does he leave Lithuania forever? Will they not let him out, or will again “people in black” come to the address in a “difficult moment for the country”? Will Lithuania have enough "people in black" for all those leaving the country ... And does this mean that Lithuanian embassies will now receive a directive to track the movement of potential recruits with Lithuanian passports on the territory of foreign states? For the euro 144 fine, this is certainly true ...

Well, and in order for the Lithuanian army to reach out for volunteers, the minister announces that financial rewards are waiting for conscripts: Euro 2633 for those "who showed themselves very well", Euro 2291 for those who served well, and 1949 (why for the Baltic, the number in 1940?) euro for "those who served satisfactorily". And if he served “badly” and tried to sing “Katyusha” on an evening walk, did Olekas provide for responsibility? Or in the Lithuanian army "Losers" will not be? ..
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  1. +6
    April 2 2015 06: 09
    These are still flowers, because these underdeveloped Lithuanian commanders also need to feed the mattress army !!!
    1. +13
      April 2 2015 06: 51
      What entertainers are these Lithuanians! )))
      Puppet army collect.
      It remains to build a puppet theater.
      1. +12
        April 2 2015 10: 04
        Quote: sibi
        It remains to build a puppet theater.

        And Karabas Barabas will be Dalia, "sweet trap" wassat
        1. 0
          April 2 2015 11: 03
          Don't touch Magnolia - it's poisonous! request
        2. +1
          April 2 2015 12: 09
          And Dalya was a prostitute back in 1982, and judging by the resolution she knocked on the KGB. How many years have passed, but only the "roof" has changed.
        3. jjj
          0
          April 2 2015 13: 59
          Quote: CONNECTING ROD VDVshny
          And Karabas Barabas will be Dalia, "sweet trap"

          In the same year, only in September, in a bar on the 12th floor, I had a chance to walk with one interesting person. He talked about the life of military translators, the liberation of Palestine, Yemen. He ordered cognac and insisted that he would pay too. He needed an interlocutor not from businessmen or thieves. I advised to describe all these stories, because they are very interesting. In short, the very same policemen took me out of date, under the handles, into the office. Fortunately for me, there was a counterintelligence agent who was starting an emergency in the same unit as me. He broke the protocol, finding out with whom I had a drink. They let me go in peace, letting me drink some kind of liquid for sobering up.
          Many years later, I begin to read Andrei Konstantinov's novel "Journalist" and am surprised to learn many episodes about Eastern affairs, the hero's pseudonym is Palestinian. And even spree is described in "Pribaltiyskaya". I understand that I could drink in a bar with the author himself
      2. 0
        April 2 2015 20: 53
        Director Martin Scorsese decided to personally cast (test) the actresses for the role of Monica Lewinsky in the new film about Bill Clinton. Dalia, even with dyed hair, the casting failed !!! belay
  2. +5
    April 2 2015 06: 23
    financial rewards are given: 2633 euros for those "who performed very well", 2291 euros for those "who served well", and 1949 (why not the usual number for the Baltic States in 1940?) euros for those who "served satisfactorily"


    Interestingly one-time or monthly. Looks bad in Lithuania with patriotism in practice. In words. so they are ready to fight even with the Russians and win, though with the help of NATO. I think that the call will fail, as will mobilization in Ukraine.
    1. +10
      April 2 2015 07: 00
      If you study well, we will buy you a black Volga; if it is average, we will buy a white Volga. And if it’s bad, we’ll buy the Red Volga! Let everyone see - this is the Goga-two-rider going !!!
  3. +2
    April 2 2015 06: 24
    But the minister, not without pride, reports that now the lit-conscript will not be able to say that he did not appear in the military enlistment office, since he did not receive a summons

    Are there many recruits?
    They’ll be looking for conscripts in Europe to search, everything is there
  4. +2
    April 2 2015 06: 55
    .. Normal business: to all 80 thousand recruits regularly send summons, and then fine refuseniks .. In extreme cases - to apologize for the "overkill" ..
  5. +7
    April 2 2015 07: 04
    Well, with such armored vehicles, the cost of the army will not be high
  6. +2
    April 2 2015 08: 00
    KGB snitch, snitch and stays !!!
  7. pwohnik200
    0
    April 2 2015 08: 02
    The war will write everything off, including loans, liabilities and sureties.
    1. 0
      April 3 2015 14: 45
      Who are you going to fight with?
  8. +4
    April 2 2015 08: 14
    The Defense Minister wanted to play "war" - but there is no one!
  9. +4
    April 2 2015 08: 49
    Why do we pay attention to the "mosek"? Yes, even Chukhonsky? They've been yapping and yapping for 25 years! And they live mainly on Western loans, Russian transit, and thanks to the business, which is controlled by "non-citizens". Let's, all the same, help their economy: "Don't buy Chukhonskoe!"
    1. +3
      April 3 2015 16: 47
      Quote: lao_tsy
      Why do we pay attention to the "mosek"? Yes, even Chukhonsky?

      Yes, this is mainly from the category of "pure neighing". And so, of course, all these proud and independent Shprotias ...
  10. 0
    April 2 2015 09: 57
    Service in the army is a useful thing, at least for the fact that there would be no thoughts of which guy to try on tights, but in this case it is exclusively propaganda in nature. Six thousand conscripts bear little resemblance to teaching boys to become men. This is an attempt to prepare a reserve for possible mobilization. Only now, given the "intensity" of patriotic feelings in Lithuania, the latter will become empty in the event of a threat of mobilization.

    By the way, the interesting position of the gay fan Olekas, because it was he who at one time canceled military service in Lithuania. And how many colorful speeches they were told. Well, Lithuanian draftees can be given one piece of advice, lease everything that they give, and then sue the state. If local courts, under political pressure, take the side of the state, then the court in Strasbourg will definitely be won by them. Local politicians don’t bother with mental illnesses, the violation of property rights beyond the framework of the Constitution has an ideal texture and an unambiguous summary.
  11. +3
    April 2 2015 09: 58
    Minister Olekas is trying to justify himself and says that negotiations were ongoing with banks, but failed to persuade financiers to transfer payments on loans and interest ..

    He hadn’t spoken to McDonald's yet. Those will also say - until the conscript eats the hamburgers put to him and blows out the established cola rate - no calls.
    But seriously, what country, such and such problems. Out of a call, they managed to make a booth. State misunderstandings of the Baltic states - because of misunderstandings, that you have to solve any of your issues, coordinating with the owners.
  12. +1
    April 2 2015 10: 19
    Lithuania presides over the EEC, Dalya felt herself the emperor of Europe and decided to defeat the Russians along the way with her army.
  13. +2
    April 2 2015 10: 22
    then the threat is not so big if all this happens through fingers. Here are some of my notes (everything is real) - once Serge made a remark to us. the kid sang "and I'll get into a convertible and leave somewhere", serge yells, wait, "f *** ing someone will sit down." in the forest behind the fire they sang "black raven". I do not think that this army will have any claims to polite people. well, except for some fanatics. so don't inflate it too much. well, plus finances for the budget, a huge burden.
  14. +1
    April 2 2015 10: 39
    and fagots will also be called?
  15. 0
    April 2 2015 11: 38
    The specified fine of 150 euros is not for refusal to serve at all, but for not appearing at the military enlistment office at the indicated time (Even if your grandfather got a summons).

    For refusal to serve in Lithuania, as before criminal responsibility.
  16. 0
    April 2 2015 11: 44
    Do not understand. Bankers started a general military duty in Lithuania? So that people mowed down from the service taking loans from banks?
  17. +3
    April 2 2015 12: 00
    But in general, in order to restore universal military conscription, it is required to restore both the barracks and training classes and much more that was formerly called a military unit or military camp, of course much remains from the time of the Soviet Union for the expenses will still be rather big. Therefore, in order to save money, I propose to organize a unit in each city of Lithuania so that servicemen go home for the night. And if you let them go home for breakfast, lunch and dinner, you can save on food.
  18. 0
    April 2 2015 12: 48
    Quote: Semenov
    Dalia felt herself emperor of Europe


    She feels like a dog for decades
  19. 0
    April 2 2015 13: 26
    The insanity of the Chukhons is getting stronger.
  20. +2
    April 2 2015 14: 08
    Sprat m ... dacha.
  21. Curd
    +1
    April 2 2015 15: 48
    The gentlemen seem to have come out of a difficult situation with banks. They call to serve for one day. It seems like they served and not to get out of the loan repayment. As the classic said: "Oh yes Pushkin, oh yes son of a bitch !!!"
  22. +1
    April 2 2015 16: 24
    A fun and perky article!
    And further...
    Returning to conscription will seriously hit the budget of this impoverished, but proud, European country.
    I think that the refusal of conscription in the past was connected with the fact that Lithuania simply did not have money to maintain its own army.
    Total we have, albeit not direct, but indirect, but still damage to our potential "friend" lol
  23. +1
    April 2 2015 16: 43
    Quote: Savior the Great
    A fun and perky article!
    And further...
    Returning to conscription will seriously hit the budget of this impoverished, but proud, European country.
    I think that the refusal of conscription in the past was connected with the fact that Lithuania simply did not have money to maintain its own army.
    Total we have, albeit not direct, but indirect, but still damage to our potential "friend" lol

    This beggar, but proud country, it is high time to teach a little. Let the boot of the Russian soldier slightly crash into the faces of the proud Pyatras and Ingvars, so that the arrogance moves a little.
  24. +1
    April 2 2015 17: 03
    Selling rulers is a corrupt nation. They have it in their blood. And pride is ostentatious at this stage. Previously (the past generation) there were really proud, but now, as Dalya-sh-th herself was, sh-th remained.
  25. Tribuns
    0
    April 2 2015 20: 21
    Lithuania, banks and military service ...

    Ah, banks, like spiders, -
    Pennies they will not forgive!
    Serving Lithuanians is not handy, -
    Bank loans are great ...
    And the debtors will be "devoured" by the bankers,
    Their accumulations and apartments ...
  26. 0
    April 2 2015 20: 58
    In April, Dali has a New Year's mood for 2016! She wants to hang herself on a Christmas tree garland.
  27. 0
    April 3 2015 00: 07
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