Ukrainian economists: default is inevitable, IMF loans will only delay bankruptcy

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On Wednesday, the IMF should decide on the allocation of a new loan to Ukraine. This is the only hope of the Kiev authorities to replenish almost empty coffers. However, Ukrainian economists surveyed by the agency PolitNavigator, consider that the new tranche will only delay the date of the official declaration of default.



Economist Vsevolod Stepanyuk:
“The government expects to receive a loan from the IMF in March. Otherwise, the default may be in the near future. In the case of receipt of 10 billion dollars from the IMF and funds from the EU, in the next six months, and even, perhaps, before the winter, Ukraine is not in danger of default. But for this, it is necessary that a truce in the Donbas be observed. These loans will allow to service foreign debt.

Unfortunately, the policy pursued by the government actually kills the economy of Ukraine. All adopted laws are aimed at reducing the economy.

Because of this, in the future, Ukraine will not be able to service large debt obligations, and will not give loans indefinitely. Therefore, I think that there will still be a default - either at the end of this year, or at the beginning of the next.

Of course, it also depends on whether the United States will help, whether the war will stop, etc. If the conflict in Donbas continues to grow into a hot stage before the IMF receives money, the IMF can postpone its assistance. The general rule is that credit is not given to those who fight. Therefore, I think Ukraine went to the Minsk agreements. With the same purpose, the Verkhovna Rada adopted recent laws.

Recently, statements by Ukrainian politicians are less belligerent, but the party of war has not left the government anywhere. The people who actually started this war, its hot stage, are at their posts. Therefore, until the change of power, the conflict in the Donbas will continue. And the sooner honest elections will be held in Ukraine (and not such as the past), the sooner the government changes, the sooner Ukraine will take the path of development. ”


Head of the Ukrainian Analytical Center Oleksandr Okhrimenko:
“There is already a de facto default, it will not be de jure in the foreseeable future. Nobody will go to that, this is a political question. The Minister of Finance, Mrs. Yaresko, appealed to the holders of Ukrainian bonds with a request to consider the issue of restructuring. This actually means a technical default. We had a IMF stand-by loan program. The fact that it was actually flooded and changed to another - default.

All that we already see - the hryvnia collapse, inflation, unemployment, stopping enterprises, closing banks - this is already a default. We are forced not to live, but to survive. It is terrible that no one is going to do anything in this regard. ”


Oleg Ustenko, Executive Director of the International Blazer Foundation:
“Now, in the short term, the risk of default has sharply decreased, although until early March, the probability of default in Ukraine was extremely high. It was not clear whether there would be foreign financing in Ukraine, and how far Ukraine was able to service its debts. In 2015, payments on debts are very high, only for state sovereign and quasi-sovereign debt to be paid around 10 billion dollars. The total amount of foreign debt of the private sector, banks and corporations exceeds 100 billion. It is assumed that the Ukrainian private sector should return about 10 billion dollars this year. As gold and foreign exchange reserves fell to 6 billion dollars, it was not clear how Ukraine could make these current payments. It was obvious to everyone, including in foreign markets.

The cost of insurance for risk in work in Ukraine was at the level of 4500 base points. This means that if someone last week wanted to credit the Ukrainian economy with 1 million dollars and guaranteed to get their money back, the insurance of mandatory return of a million dollars would be 450 thousand dollars. In this situation, no one will credit the economy, or the interest rate in foreign currency should be at the level of 50%, which looks incredible for any country in the world.

This was reminiscent of the situation in Greece when it entered a crisis - a sharp increase in risk insurance. In fact, Ukraine in recent days was in such a state.

In the short term, a default would be inevitable if the Verkhovna Rada had not voted for this tough but necessary package of changes in legislation, which made it possible to reduce the deficit of the public finance system from 12% of GDP to 8%.

Therefore, I believe that the risk of default has decreased dramatically (although it has not disappeared) after the last vote.

Next week, the Ukrainian question can be put on the agenda of the IMF board of directors, and the program of cooperation with the IMF can begin. This will mean that the country will be able to receive about 2015 billion in external loans from the EBRD, the World Bank and other financial institutions in 8 year. Obtaining these funds is tied to whether or not there is a program of cooperation with the IMF.

This, again, would have been impossible if the parliament had not voted for these laws.

There are significant risks of default in the medium and long term. They are related to the fact that our previous cooperation programs with the IMF were unsuccessful. Ukraine at some point refused to carry out the necessary but painful measures that she herself had agreed upon when signing a memorandum of cooperation with the IMF. The program has stopped. This was with the 2009 program of the year, with the second program, and with the current one - all of them were suspended. The IMF knows the behavior of Ukraine, it is often burned on this. Voting in the parliament before the meeting of the board of directors indicates that the IMF will not give money in advance. First, change, then money. One more step on the part of Ukraine is more money. This allows us to believe in the relative success of the program at the point of reference in which we are now.

If such cooperation is suspended, the risks of default will begin to grow. It will be if Ukraine does not make the transformations that it should do. If structural reforms are not carried out, the fight against corruption, the reform of the judicial system, the public administration system, business deregulation will not be carried out, then the default risks will begin to grow in that the risks of ceasing cooperation with the IMF and other international financial lenders will increase.

It should also be remembered that a country that borrows money should show economic growth, otherwise the debt burden may be unbearable for a falling economy. In order not only to resume economic growth and grow at a high rate - 7% and above - a country should really implement rapid economic reforms, and not just talk about them. Then it will be possible to focus not on loans, but on investments.

In addition, although the state’s default risks have sharply decreased today, the risks of the Ukrainian private sector remain high. Companies are to negotiate restructuring of their debts. I would not expect success with all representatives of the Ukrainian corporate sector and the banking system in terms of restructuring their debts. Many have very poor results in the past and this year. First of all, this applies to banks. Therefore, I would not rule out a series of corporate defaults on external liabilities. It is quite likely.

Recently, the Ukrainian government initiated negotiations to restructure a part of our foreign debt. First of all, we are talking about our Eurobonds, the total amount of which in the external market is 17,5 billion dollars. We must understand that this kind of restructuring is, of course, not a default in the classical sense, but this means a technical default. ”
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  1. +3
    8 March 2015 10: 44
    Here read http://politikus.ru/events/44917-padenie-v-bezdnu.html
    1. +3
      8 March 2015 10: 54
      Well done brothers Ukrainians, openly expressed their thoughts to Europe!
      It's like saying, "you die today and I'll die tomorrow" ...
      1. +15
        8 March 2015 11: 09
        But there are no frost-hardened rulers on Ukaine’s authorities, there were no frost-bitten brothers, there wasn’t his dad Lukashenka and his own Vladimir didn’t appear in the 90s. , civil war. Friends from NATO, like vultures, came to profit from a torn piece of the USSR, but local princes and boyars who once again sold the people were to blame
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      3. +18
        8 March 2015 11: 16
        The junta is not interested in the future of Ukraine, they are temporary workers, after them at least a flood.
      4. +2
        8 March 2015 11: 39
        Ukrainian economists: default is inevitable, IMF loans will only delay bankruptcy

        Well, how do you want ?! it is impossible to constantly take out loans "against loans"! especially in this situation, when the Ukrainian economy is practically collapsed! I do not know what the current "rulers" of Ukraine promised to creditors under guarantees, but I am sure of one thing - THE NEXT GENERATION OF SUCH (THESE) RULERS CURSE!!! am am am
        1. +4
          8 March 2015 12: 40
          The land and resources that remained, + the territory under the NATO base, I think so ?!
          1. avt
            +1
            8 March 2015 19: 14
            Quote: 30143
            The land and resources that remained, + the territory under the NATO base, I think so ?!

            The port of Odessa is already in half with us. And the territory will be divided by oligarchs and lads, who will gather large personal bandit formations, Kalomoisky is already sending all the way to the west to the enterprises of the PSov, to solve the problems of economic entities. everything is like in the fall of 1917 in Imperial Russia - the army will collapse - the country will collapse.At least some organized semblance of the Bolsheviks of the 1917 spill is not observed. there are sane people in Ukraine, here is a quite sensible statement of the fact given to all those living in Ukraine under the jurisdiction of Kiev temporary workers ----- “De facto there is already a default, de jure it will not be in the foreseeable future. This is a political issue. Finance Minister Ms. Yaresko asked the holders of Ukrainian bonds to consider the issue of restructuring. A technical default starts. We had a stand-by IMF lending program. The fact that it was actually filled up and changed to another is a default. "----- Very accurate and there is nothing to add and there is no need.
            1. +5
              8 March 2015 22: 13
              It's time for them to remember the words of the song "From Odessa Kichman" performed by L. Utyosov. REMINDER one verse:
              - Well, for what we fought,
              Why did we suffer
              Why did we spill our blood?
              They feast there
              They walk there,
              But we give them sons ...
              1. +3
                9 March 2015 10: 25
                I will join folklore with a joke.
                The daughter before her first wedding night asks her mom:
                - Mom, what better do I wear panties? blue or yellow?
                - daughter, which don’t wear, they’ll fuck you anyway.
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      5. Viktor Kudinov
        +2
        8 March 2015 13: 09
        In principle, everything is quite frank: to collect more debts, and then ask to restructure or even forgive debts. Europe has just begun to guess about its happiness - to drag the dead economy of a plundered country out of the swamp. feel
      6. +2
        8 March 2015 13: 26
        Yes, it’s time to Ukraine a stone on the neck and in the pool! Hooked up the whole world, the people of Holodig!
        The "Varyagov" have gathered to lead themselves, they themselves are no longer able to clean up their own shit ... Some kind of ballast state with madmen at its head!
      7. 0
        8 March 2015 19: 33
        But why worry about Ukraine? It’s already drowning for 24 years, drowning ami must escape from drowning.
        1. Sly
          0
          9 March 2015 06: 14
          so we want to save more drowning ...
    2. +11
      8 March 2015 11: 07
      Galloping, galloping, and so they galloped, although Russia warned.
      1. thlzycr
        +1
        8 March 2015 12: 22
        Unfortunately .... they jump into the abyss without thinking about ordinary people ....
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    4. 0
      8 March 2015 15: 54
      Default is just an official fact of recognition of the insolvency of the state. And the fact that Outskirts have long been insolvent is known to all.
    5. 0
      9 March 2015 08: 21
      Ukraine has only political agitation left: stories that we, in Russia, have carrots for 700 rubles each (photos from Belarus, the devil knows what year), stories about the military successes of his army in the anti-terrorist operation zone (in fact, a punitive operation), tales of horrors that occur in the Crimea. Here are just about what is happening at home, do not tell. They say that everything is fine and wonderful, and we will expel Russian journalists so that they don’t tell us how we really are.
  2. +10
    8 March 2015 10: 45
    With their own hands they are destroying factories, mines and want economic prosperity. Ukrainian oligarchs are the ones who are flourishing.
    1. +18
      8 March 2015 11: 18
      Quote: Teberii
      With their own hands they are destroying factories, mines and want economic prosperity. Ukrainian oligarchs are the ones who are flourishing.
      There is a proverb: "The clever learn from the mistakes of others - the fools learn from their own." There is also a halt in production and hopes for IMF loans (subsequently safely plundered) and numerous foreign advisers and assistants in governing structures. Likewise, Russian liberals declared dissidents to be "Stalinists" and "red-brown" and in the same way the country, through the efforts of these liberals, was sliding into the abyss.
  3. +7
    8 March 2015 10: 46
    No matter how much money you don’t give to "Ruin" (it still depends on what conditions), all the same, without the support of Russia, the collapse will soon come. The Kiev Junta is leading to this. Themselves brought the country to poverty, Heroes of Sala.
    1. +23
      8 March 2015 10: 58
      Quote: avvg
      How much money you don’t give "Ruin", all the same, without the support of Russia, the collapse will soon come. The Kiev Junta is leading to this. Themselves brought the country to poverty, Heroes of Sala.

      Natural gang is in power! The question is - where is the money?
      1. +10
        8 March 2015 11: 04
        And let's not forget that almost all "members" of the ukrostan government have FOREIGN passports! That is, when it gets really bad, they will calmly fly away to the states, some to the promised state, they don't even need to ask for asylum !!!
        1. 0
          8 March 2015 11: 57
          Dear Magic Archer, you can see where our Russian ex-ministers are leaving and where their "country" villas are (which countries). Ask where the kids of our political elite study and live, just for fun. Show curiosity.
          1. +4
            8 March 2015 12: 09
            Dear Rotmister. Is this article about Russia? You didn’t give advice on the topic. Everyone already knows what’s going on. And the next time I ask without advice, I don’t need them. Regards, MA hi
      2. +1
        8 March 2015 11: 17
        Natural gang is in power! The question is - where is the money?
        Geletei brother-in-law matchmaker Balogi, his brother is the clerk of the Security Service of Ukraine of Transcarpathia. They were legalized for the squeezed money and now they are not stalls, but a state
      3. +7
        8 March 2015 13: 07
        Quote: vc 72019
        The question is - where is the money?


        Well, yes, yes, where is the money, Zin?
        1. +1
          8 March 2015 21: 35
          And this gangster "raspberry" Britain will teach us how to live? !!
        2. 0
          8 March 2015 21: 35
          And this gangster "raspberry" Britain will teach us how to live? !!
  4. El Chupacabra
    +11
    8 March 2015 10: 47
    The IMF's "aid", on such terms, is not capable of helping to restore the economy, but rather, on the contrary, bury the last chances of its revival. This is bondage.
    1. +5
      8 March 2015 10: 55
      And the IMF will not offer other conditions, we all went through this in the 90s.
      1. +4
        8 March 2015 11: 11
        Ukrainian fascist authorities are clearly implementing the American plan to destroy the Ukrainian economy.
        1. El Chupacabra
          +8
          8 March 2015 11: 16
          The cunning plan is so cunning: 1) to disintegrate Ukraine to the level of the Stone Age, 2) to give it to Russia.
          1. 0
            8 March 2015 17: 14
            give it to Russia.


            Well, yes, they will repay debts ... wink we had few debts of the former USSR, we missed you ...
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  5. +4
    8 March 2015 10: 48
    It should also be remembered that a country that borrows money should show economic growth, otherwise the debt burden may be unbearable for a falling economy. In order not only to resume economic growth and grow at a high rate - 7% and above - a country should really implement rapid economic reforms, and not just talk about them. Then it will be possible to focus not on loans, but on investments.
    Even if they "reform" the economy, that is, read, destroy completely the Soviet heritage, then at the expense of what they are going to do this 7% growth. By what means? Where do they plan to ship their products? To Africa? So China has already filled everything there ... To us? Something I can hardly believe that after all their products will be in demand with us.
    1. -2
      8 March 2015 10: 58
      There will be, only the power in Ukraine will change and will be in demand!
      1. 0
        8 March 2015 22: 11
        There will be friendship, there will be PEACE!
        And there will always be a svr67 that measures everything as a percentage ....
  6. +2
    8 March 2015 10: 49
    Country political prostitute - for money allows EVERYTHING!
    1. +2
      8 March 2015 11: 16
      This country is a prostitution misunderstanding, and it is necessary to give and cannot satisfy. This mentality is already at the level of instinct.
      Quote: Stoler
      Country political prostitute - for money allows EVERYTHING!
  7. +2
    8 March 2015 10: 50
    This is the only hope of the Kiev authorities to replenish the almost empty treasury


    This hope has been replenished from time to time at the expense of the EU and the IMF. But this cannot go on ad infinitum. In the West they know how to count money. So Ukraine is already paying its territories. What is most interesting is that with an already practically absent economy, huge devaluation and debts, foreign rating agencies bury Russia, but not Ukraine. Paradox.
    1. 0
      8 March 2015 21: 39
      Do you still believe in western ... that is, western ratings?
    2. 0
      8 March 2015 21: 39
      Do you still believe in western ... that is, western ratings?
  8. +4
    8 March 2015 10: 51
    Peremoga defeated perevoznikov.
  9. +1
    8 March 2015 10: 51
    tse peremoga chi ni?
  10. +6
    8 March 2015 10: 52
    So they need .... they want Jewish value - they will get them ....
  11. +1
    8 March 2015 10: 53
    IMF loans are slavery for the whole country, it is impossible to get the economy out of the crisis, they only worsen the situation. Need to work! This mainly applies to the government.
    1. +2
      8 March 2015 11: 18
      What! Work? No way ... We need everything at once ... This is a matter of the Ukrainian principle!
      Quote: sanyadzhan
      IMF loans are slavery for the whole country, it is impossible to get the economy out of the crisis, they only worsen the situation. Need to work! This mainly applies to the government.
  12. +5
    8 March 2015 10: 54
    If the "dying man is pinched his neck" with a loan ...
    It’s clear that this is an aid in the form of eftonasia ...
  13. +4
    8 March 2015 10: 55
    Until the people take up the pitchfork, they will be mocked at the people.
  14. +4
    8 March 2015 10: 56
    Is default inevitable? Yes, you are out of stock! Defot is here! Prices for basic foodstuffs nearly doubled. What do you call it?
    1. +2
      8 March 2015 11: 08
      Yes, you shoooo, but they write to us that everything is fine, Klichshoooo keeps everything under control, promises to employ all widows, already builds "panels" at the legislative level, collects frantic taxes, and says that the country's budget is already SAVING!
      1. +16
        8 March 2015 11: 21
        This statement can be applied not only to him, but to the Verkhovna Rada, the Central Bank of Ukraine and others ...
      2. +1
        8 March 2015 13: 10
        Quote: STOP VOINE 2014
        Yes, you shooo, but they write to us that everything is fine,


        So it is - "everything is fine, beautiful marquise ...". bully
    2. 0
      8 March 2015 11: 43
      Well, then what? Dear resident of Ukraine, judging by the flag .... We will endure Putin's fault, drinking beer in front of the TV ... I personally do not say anything bad about you ... But the country has turned into a pen, where sheep bleed, bleated when all the others, not fed, will take up the mind ...
      Quote: EvilCat
      Is default inevitable? Yes, you are out of stock! Defot is here! Prices for basic foodstuffs nearly doubled. What do you call it?
  15. +12
    8 March 2015 10: 57
    Ukraine will go down in history as a phenomenon of state destruction! Having in 1991 a powerful economic potential, the third largest military force in Europe, excellent agriculture - and bankruptcy ?! It's just a shame! And they are all jumping, yelling "Glory to Ukraine!", Which de facto is no longer there, and it remains only to reach de jure! And moreover, all this "created" with their own hands! Let them clean up this "mess" that has been brewed!
  16. +2
    8 March 2015 10: 57
    Judging by all the latest publications - all these are "false chores". They will not see loans from the IMF.
  17. +3
    8 March 2015 10: 59
    In my opinion, the IMF will not give money to dill. Ukraine reaches a critical mass and is about to begin dividing laughing (just like in nuclear physics). Imagine dill divided into several republics, the republics dispersed in different directions, there will be several independent states and who will pay the IMF?
  18. +21
    8 March 2015 11: 02
    Soon April 1 (April Fool's Day)))) ..Yaitseniukh prepared a gift for everyone .. (under the IMF's whip) Glory to Ukraine ..! hi
    1. +3
      8 March 2015 11: 22
      Well, yes, but in our country, looking at Putin, the governor cut salaries by 10% to himself, to the government
      area, including the apparatus! Accountant with a salary of 15 thousand rubles will be 10% less
      receive now, and the cleaning lady in government, from her 8000 rub. same 10% less
      get ... Following the rest of the state employees cut ...
      In short, the same eggs as in the ruin, only on the side!
      They also plan to cut social programs! Kick a penny on them before
      I had to, but now the answer is one: "there is no money, and it is not known when it will be received"!
      1. +2
        8 March 2015 11: 30
        Quote: AlNikolaich
        Well, yes, but in our country, looking at Putin, the governor cut salaries by 10% to himself, to the government
        area, including the apparatus! Accountant with a salary of 15 thousand rubles will be 10% less
        receive now, and the cleaning lady in government, from her 8000 rub. same 10% less
        get ... Following the rest of the state employees cut ...
        In short, the same eggs as in the ruin, only on the side!
        They also plan to cut social programs! Kick a penny on them before
        I had to, but now the answer is one: "there is no money, and it is not known when it will be received"!

        Yes that's right..! The vertical of power .. Those in the province will suffer those who received 10-15 thousand .. I personally have increased the load ..! And s \ n is reduced ..! So what to do? I won’t go to businessmen (even if at times) Someone must work for the state no matter what! hi
      2. +4
        8 March 2015 11: 53
        Quote: AlNikolaich
        Following the rest of the state employees cut ...

        Public sector employees will not cut salaries (Putin did not give a command). And if your governor is d ... k, then this is your problem and not Putin.
        And who is it plus? The "all-spreading" people are raising their heads again!
        1. -6
          8 March 2015 13: 04
          Putin gave the command, but the message (full word, damn it ...). That all and opened the "message"
          perform! Naturally, we started with ourselves! What would the people say: "and we, the floor, are suffering as well!" Only salaries are different for officials and cleaning ladies!
          And I’ll add, dear, why is it that if you start voicing bad things right away
          auxiliary ran, and so on and so? What, the prices in stores rose, and the salary
          no, then you can’t talk about it already? And incompetent figures are sitting in the government,
          most of which have a place on a construction site, carry bricks, keep silent about this
          is it necessary? Otherwise, you are an all-enforcer and a fifth column, a liberal and a candidate for Nemtsov’s place?
          With us, Thank God it’s not Ukraine, and you can speak freely, especially the truth!
      3. +5
        8 March 2015 13: 24
        Putin cut salaries only to executives and top managers. Your Governor is either a deputy or you are not telling the truth.
        Drop the link to the actions of your Governor. And we will check (we are this community of VO).
  19. Tribuns
    +3
    8 March 2015 11: 04
    Let the West panic over financial difficulties ... In our opinion, everything that contributes to the collapse of the criminal Kiev regime should be recognized as positive ... In other words, "the worse the better" ... And this will create the preconditions for removing Kiev Russophobes from politics from power ... And there is no need for lamentations about the "sufferings of the fraternal people of Ukraine" ... Ukrainian "svidomye" -Banderists - we are not comrades ... And, at heart, we are with the Russian-speaking population of fraternal Donbass!
  20. 0
    8 March 2015 11: 04
    Ukrainian economists: default is inevitable, IMF loans will only delay bankruptcy

    And who doubted that? Did the Ukrainian government also doubt it?
  21. 0
    8 March 2015 11: 06
    Will, steal happiness, happiness forever ... the IMF has a strong hand ... gutted completely .. into dust .. and there will be no ruins ...
  22. 0
    8 March 2015 11: 07
    Dill has a coveted formula. Russia is to blame for everything. It was she who put the oligarchs at the helm, who quickly "ripped apart" the remnants of the economy of a huge country. It was she who forced the Svidomo to ride on the Maidan and overthrow the legitimate government. It was she who forced the dill to sever all economic ties with Russia. Probably using a secret weapon, a telepathic emitter?
  23. +2
    8 March 2015 11: 07
    "Therefore, until the power is changed"

    The power in Ukraine can change as much as you like, it will not give a result, while the US is leading the election. The situation can only change if representatives from the LDP are elected to the government of Ukraine (and of the president, of course), which is only possible theoretically.
  24. +2
    8 March 2015 11: 08
    Most likely they will give a loan more than once, only ... Will a mustard plaster help with body injuries incompatible with life? ......
  25. +3
    8 March 2015 11: 08
    "The government expects to receive an IMF loan in March"
  26. +4
    8 March 2015 11: 10
    Bring the outskirts "to the handle" and shake off Russia. Rake ...
  27. +3
    8 March 2015 11: 10
    An interesting thinking is at the top of Kiev, the opinion that everyone should give them money, weapons, grubs, still fight for them, and everything should be free. How - an outpost in the east. It is necessary to isolate them with a ring until this cancerous tumor has passed into metastases throughout the body of Europe. And Ukraine already has no economy. Only the internal movement of money from pocket to pocket. Calculations are not far off in food terms, as in the Middle Ages.
  28. 3axap
    0
    8 March 2015 11: 15
    MIKHAN (6) SU Today, 11:02 AM New /////....... This treacherous Vladimir Putin specifically wants to incite the Ukrainian people to his beloved, respected prezek. lol laughing
  29. +1
    8 March 2015 11: 17
    Soon there will be only subsistence farming and life will begin on barter.
  30. act
    act
    0
    8 March 2015 11: 26
    Ukrainian economists: default is inevitable, IMF loans will only delay bankruptcy ...

    There is no need to be an economist. Each revolution creates chaos and devastation. Download and continue tovarschi!
  31. 0
    8 March 2015 11: 26
    Quote: Magic Archer
    And let's not forget that almost all "members" of the ukrostan government have FOREIGN passports! That is, when it gets really bad, they will calmly fly away to the states, some to the promised state, they don't even need to ask for asylum !!!

    If you have time, of course. We must make sure that we do not have time.
  32. +1
    8 March 2015 11: 28
    Strangers take it, but you have to give yours! What place are they thinking there?
    1. +1
      8 March 2015 11: 31
      This place they will then pay.
  33. KIL
    KIL
    +1
    8 March 2015 11: 30
    Everything is correct. Lyashko spoke bluntly to Obama. America must Ukraine 300 yards of dollars, 100 in cash, 100 to pay off debts free of charge, 100 for weapons. Normal economic policy. wassat
    1. +1
      8 March 2015 13: 18
      Quote: KIL
      Everything is correct. Lyashko spoke bluntly to Obama. America must Ukraine 300 yards of dollars, 100 in cash, 100 to pay off debts free of charge, 100 for weapons. Normal economic policy. wassat


      Kiev's external debt = $ 140 billion now. External debt of New Russia = $ 0,0. Yes
  34. wow
    0
    8 March 2015 11: 31
    To paraphrase the well-known saying: "... pi ...., sorry, to jump - do not roll bags ...". Only Jesus Christ could revive the deceased. But this is not the case ....
    1. +3
      8 March 2015 11: 46
      Yes Poroshenko does not care whether this country is ruined and whether its people "die" the main thing is to pit the two fraternal peoples and inflict maximum damage on them.
      And then even the grass does not grow.
      Surely he (and his entire team) like Kolomoisky has a passport in Israel or the USA, England, Australia ....
      In general, he is not going to live in Ukraine.
  35. 0
    8 March 2015 11: 46
    Yatsenyuk is planning to bury you in the ground ...
    Isn't it time, with the help of the people's anger, to disassemble it into souvenirs, looking at which your generations will shudder at the mention of "Maidan"!
  36. 0
    8 March 2015 11: 46
    Pancake! The situation resembles our 90s. Dear kakly, the IMF will not give you money for factories and state development. They will give money to pay off interest on loans taken earlier. Why would they build you some kind of enterprise? You can simply buy up all that is left for next to nothing. Land is much more expensive. Listen to your minister - "Varangian" Abromovichus: "Unfortunately, we will sell the remaining enterprises at low prices, but there is no other way out." Only he forgot to add that they were deliberately bankrupt in order to buy them for nothing. It was the same in Serbia. We had this during the EBN. We were lucky that the oil price went up and we quickly paid off our debts. But usrae isn't so lucky. Loans are bad because they have to be repaid. What will give usraina is not clear. It also makes me laugh how these grief patriots are bred. Kakly you are all ideological, you took and all came out against the "terany" of Yanukovych. Well, what about the Maidan now? Are you happy with everyone? Yes, not just Nuland does not give cookies to the freedom-loving people.
  37. Akatsubasa
    0
    8 March 2015 11: 52
    "Such a country is asked ..." (c)
    Missed that is ...

    But it all started so well in the nineties. And the work was, and the industry was developing less or less, but for some reason they wanted to become more European ... As a result, the guys just rolled back 25 years ago.
    1. 0
      8 March 2015 22: 08
      At seventy-one !!!
    2. 0
      8 March 2015 22: 08
      At seventy-one !!!
  38. 0
    8 March 2015 12: 04
    Quote: Homo
    Quote: AlNikolaich
    Following the rest of the state employees cut ...

    Public sector employees will not cut salaries (Putin did not give a command). And if your governor is d ... k, then this is your problem and not Putin.
    And who is it plus? The "all-spreading" people are raising their heads again!

    Raise ..! It’s hard, insulting, and yet you have to hold on! And the liberalists urge us to seize the pitchfork .. I remember the 90s ... hi Quietly deal with all ... And that's it!
  39. 0
    8 March 2015 12: 35
    50 percent of Odessa seaport shares passed to American masters
  40. +4
    8 March 2015 12: 54
    http://cinichka.ru/rss/26150-26150.html

    It was the third year of the presidency of Poroshenko ... Spring ... They began to eat pigeons. They are tasty and healthy. Tree bark is suitable for seasoning and brewing tea. I have been walking for a long time, I learned a lot of new and interesting things about my city and its architecture. On a birthday they stabbed a cur. On the balcony, salted sparrows roll upside down. I sew my own clothes. Learned how to weave bast shoes. I wash myself once a month, make a fire in the yard and heat water in buckets. Gas has not been affordable for a long time, and a gas pipe has long been cut out. A couple of times managed to catch a fish. I cook the brew and set the kvass. Kombucha is also good. We think with my wife to take a loan for two and buy a bike.
    The air in the city becomes cleaner, rare cars surprise children. Kiev is emptying. Yesterday I saw the president passing by on his carriage. We are going to drag the land with my wife into the apartment and plant potatoes. I really want potatoes ... I haven’t eaten this delicious potato dish for a long time .... Boiled potato ... fried ... baked ... They say the president eats potato every day, but my wife and I do not believe it, it sounds really fabulous: potato every day.
    We look forward to the summer ... Cockroaches are not at home ... The last one was eaten back in September 2015 ... Mosquitoes are afraid to fly into us, our veins suck them through their proboscis! Migratory birds fly over my city only at an altitude of 12 000 meters, they are afraid lower ... people jump! Toads in the spring croak only sitting deep under water! Rats left the city forever! Today, for the first time, I boiled my shoelaces, if they should be salted, they look like spaghetti (although even old people don’t remember what spaghetti is ...) That I was different ... Nothing, still bearable.
    The main thing is that we are still promised accession to the European Union and loans.
    Let's hold on ... The main thing is not to let the Communist Party of Ukraine and Colorado seize power. Soon elections to the Verkhovna Rada ... My wife and I decided to vote for VO "Svoboda" again. They say that when we completely forget the Russian language, we will have a lot of food ...
    Glory to the Heroes!
  41. +2
    8 March 2015 13: 17
    Anyway, they will pull away all the help!
  42. +3
    8 March 2015 13: 33
    I liked the grandmother in the picture, above which the questions)))) is so ocher ... eating.
    And I recalled the recent phrase of Zadornov:
    In Russia, the ruble fell twice, and in Ukraine, the hryvnia fell four times. Conclusion: Western sanctions are 2 times safer than Western assistance.
  43. +1
    8 March 2015 14: 51
    Late to drink Borjomi, gentlemen, a light shot through ... Leave the last shot in UKRAINE and forget about her magnificent body ...
  44. 0
    8 March 2015 16: 00
    The Ukrainian authorities themselves led the country to economic collapse, unleashing a war in the Donbass, breaking economic ties with Russia. Help that the IMF will allocate in a row will go in the right direction. There are too many parasites in the Ukrainian government.
  45. 0
    8 March 2015 16: 25
    Quote: Akatsubasa
    "Such a country is asked ..." (c)
    Missed that is ...

    But it all started so well in the nineties. And the work was, and the industry was developing less or less, but for some reason they wanted to become more European ... As a result, the guys just rolled back 25 years ago.

    The Ukrainians wanted to panic, as they sing in the hymn! "We will also be locked up, brothers, in our land!" It's been a year now. How much is left?
  46. 0
    8 March 2015 16: 39
    Jokes are bad with diarrhea, and Ukraine has been walking with him for a year now and is squeezing her rolls to the limit, the result will be sad and funny.
  47. 0
    8 March 2015 16: 46
    It would be more logical to finish off the Ruin than to look at the agony. As they say: "Better a terrible end than endless horror." It is a pity for people who suffer from freaks in power.
  48. -1
    8 March 2015 17: 16
    Quote: oleg-gr
    Bring the outskirts "to the handle" and shake off Russia. Rake ...

    this is exactly how it will be in the near future .. at our expense, we will have to restore this ruin ... sadness ..
  49. +3
    8 March 2015 18: 53
    Fools learn from their mistakes, smart ones from strangers, Ukrainians don’t even learn from their mistakes. Ukraine has proved too convincingly that it can no longer exist as one single state. Therefore, now its separation has become as inevitable as the change of seasons.
  50. Bor
    +3
    8 March 2015 19: 09
    I don’t understand the intricacies of global politics, I don’t understand why Russia has not yet demanded a return of 3 billion debt, although it has every right to do so? I don’t understand why Mistral still stands in France, and not in Vladivostok. I don’t understand much yet, but these two questions haunt. But why???
    1. 0
      9 March 2015 10: 46
      Quote: Bor
      I don’t understand the intricacies of global politics, I don’t understand why Russia has not yet demanded a return of 3 billion debt, although it has every right to do so? I don’t understand why Mistral still stands in France, and not in Vladivostok. I don’t understand much yet, but these two questions haunt. But why???

      This is not to Russia, but to Miller ... Yes
      Mistral - insists the French do everything with endurance ... laughing
      They haven’t written anything about SWIFT for a long time, the fall of the ruble, and about everything we all lost ... laughing
    2. 0
      9 March 2015 10: 47
      Quote: Bor
      I don’t understand the intricacies of global politics, I don’t understand why Russia has not yet demanded a return of 3 billion debt, although it has every right to do so? I don’t understand why Mistral still stands in France, and not in Vladivostok. I don’t understand much yet, but these two questions haunt. But why???

      This is not to Russia, but to Miller ... Yes
      Mistral - insists the French do everything with endurance ... laughing
      They haven’t written anything about SWIFT for a long time, the fall of the ruble, and about everything we all lost ... laughing
  51. +2
    8 March 2015 21: 13
    ...
    boring ..
    secondary...
    ...
    well, not interesting...
  52. 0
    9 March 2015 05: 15
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    9 March 2015 05: 16
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  54. 0
    9 March 2015 10: 41
    Ukrainian economists: default is inevitable, IMF loans will only delay bankruptcy

    It seemed to me that except for politicians, Maidan activists and radicals, no one lives there anymore...okay... recourse
  55. 0
    9 March 2015 16: 41
    Quote: self-propelled
    THE NEXT GENERATION OF SUCH (THESE) RULERS WILL BE CURSED!!!

    So, they never had it any other way. Each successive government blames the previous one for everything.
    I don’t care about their problems, but I have a purely academic interest:
    How long can this continue in principle and how many changes of governments are required for the people to begin to move at least a little or even think?