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The idea of ​​Deputy Prime Minister Arkady Dvorkovich about the possible transfer of strategic oil and gas fields to companies from the PRC is so much controversial as the gas “contract of the century” recently concluded with the Chinese. First, the Chinese are invited to start up on the already developed deposits. In the world, almost no one does. A potential investor is usually first invited to invest in exploration, infrastructure and other things. Here, Russia has already spent and created everything itself, and the neighbors are invited only to collect the most delicious. Secondly, companies from the PRC are invited to admit to the controlling stake - something unprecedented for a formally independent country, which also proclaims itself to be a great power.



Well, the third, the most interesting. Chinese companies will most likely not want to deal with Russian workers and specialists, but will deliver their own, as they do in Kazakhstan and other places. So they are more convenient and economically much more profitable. The appearance of such a large number of Chinese people will change the entire look of the surrounding area, especially if specialists come with their families. Here and public institutions on the Chinese model, and hieroglyphic signs on the roads, as well as Chinese cuisine, Chinese medicine and so on. Welcome to Chinatown with your customs, practices ... and laws. Chinese cities in Russia will have their own world. To understand what is going on inside it will be completely impossible. The experience of so many countries shows that places of compact residence of the Chinese diaspora are becoming a considerable problem for local authorities.

Of course, China is an extremely important partner for Russia, and will remain as such for the coming decades. With the great Asian giant, it is possible and necessary to develop relations in all directions, regardless of the presence or absence of sanctions.

And what does the highest authority in the person of Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin say about such ideas? The correct answer is nothing. Appealing to the head of state makes no sense for two reasons. First: Dvorkovich’s proposals have not yet been formed as a concrete bill - that is, there is nothing special to criticize. And the words at any time can be disavowed, they say, not so understood. Secondly, after “partner Poroshenko”, “united Ukraine” and “Nabiullina act correctly” such appeals hardly make sense for obvious reasons.

Of course, one can argue that the Chinese diasporas exist in other countries, and are very numerous. Yes it is. But almost all of these countries are very densely populated by representatives of the titular nation, and the Chinese minority is not a big threat there. In Russia, the situation is somewhat different. Where is the guarantee that in the event of a critical weakening of the federal center in Moscow, the Chinese will not decide on the conditionally-Crimean scenario already in the territory of the Russian Federation itself? That is, the appearance of "polite people" with a Peking accent and a referendum for joining the People's Republic of China.

Panicking, some will say. Maybe. But a sane person should always consider the worst scenario as the most likely.

In general, China is the ally, about which they say that with such friends enemies are no longer necessary. The leaders of this country have a very changeable temper, and the Chinese treachery is known to all Asian neighbors of this country. Now, China openly uses the fact that Russia is in fact in a state of cold war with the United States and the EU in order to dictate terms to it. With all the reality of threats from the West, it is unwise to rush into the arms of China on frankly humiliating conditions.

Unfortunately, Russia has long been selling resources and electricity to the Middle Kingdom cheaper than its own consumers. Also, our country gave way to the southern neighbor of the island on the Amur, without setting any special conditions. The implementation of the current "brilliant initiatives" of Dvorkovich runs the risk of finally and irrevocably turning the Russian Federation no longer a vassal, but into a frank colony of the PRC. Therefore, when Arkady Vladimirovich repeatedly repeated about the “Chinese friends”, it was tempting to ask how good the relations with them were - like in the recent past with “fraternal Ukraine” and “American partners”? And if so, then what should unhappy Russians do - dig dugouts or immediately acquire Mao's quotations for memorization?

Such a seemingly suicidal policy of the Russian authorities can only be explained by one thing: before a high probability of a coup d'état, someone leads bargaining for a safe harbor in the Middle Kingdom. Well-known politicians can boast in front of television cameras that they are read in works on the reforms of the great leaders of the past, but for some reason the face of False Dmitry, Peter III or Gorbachev is always reflected in the mirror.
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  1. Arktidianets
    Arktidianets 6 March 2015 07: 14
    +127
    Dvorkovich, Medvedev and the like drive a filthy broom from the government!
    1. Sunjar
      Sunjar 6 March 2015 08: 17
      +49
      And traitors are always no matter who, where and how to betray. So Dvorkovich tried and sold Russia to the EU and the USA, then a U-turn started and it was not comme il faut to work with these gentlemen, but now the Chinas can sell their homeland.
      1. Scoun
        Scoun 6 March 2015 10: 20
        +24
        Quote: Sunjar
        Here Dvorkovich tried and sold Russia to the EU and the USA

        Through his wife, he did so much ... the Magomedov brothers, where did they come from and what kind of things are they doing + Bilalovs?
        Meet the family of Deputy Prime Minister Arkady Dvorkovich. Perhaps this 40-year-old youthful man with the appearance of a village simpleton and is not able to impress at first glance, do not rush to conclusions. In the few years that he first spent in the office of the assistant to the president, and then the deputy prime minister of the Russian Federation, Arkady managed to put his sticky fingers into many large state and private companies.

        Of course, he couldn’t do this openly in public office, and therefore he connected his family to the matter. The career achievements of Arkady's wife Zumrud Rustamova can drive many successful male businessmen into shame. She was Deputy General Director of Polymetal Gold and Silver Holding, a member of the board of directors of the Magnitogorsk Iron and Steel Works, one of the leaders of the Siberian Coal Energy Company, a member of the board of directors of Sheremetyevo, Polyus Gold, Rosgosstrakh, and the All-Russian Exhibition Center, Alrosa, Rosagroleasing, PIK group of companies.

        Still, there are women in Russian villages ...

      2. Mviktor
        Mviktor 6 March 2015 11: 34
        +20
        It is a habit of some Jews to shit in Russia
        1. GDP
          GDP 6 March 2015 13: 05
          +22
          Something a lot of gifts to China recently.
          Part of the territory was given
          Electricity at prices lower than in Russia
          They turn a blind eye to illegal logging, now here is the bowels ...

          Of course, we need a quiet rear, but ...
          Does our government go too far?
          Mining and searching for unexplored reserves is one thing - it’s profitable for us, it’s another thing to download what we’ve already found, there’s no need for a big mind ...
          1. skazochnik
            skazochnik 9 March 2015 17: 13
            +2
            And that's not all, in addition to all of the above, our government is going to start selling the best types of weapons such as SU-35 aircraft, S-400 air defense systems, Smerch szo and other types. If this is the case, then a medical diagnosis can be made to the president and the government. In general, such attempts to sell everything and everyone to a very interested "ally" are very similar to panic in the country's leadership.
            1. bekjan
              bekjan 9 March 2015 23: 36
              +1
              only the Chinese are more insidious than the Arabs.
          2. bekjan
            bekjan 9 March 2015 23: 34
            0
            It seems that the "reliable rear" in the next decade will turn into a "hot border". As our ancestors said, forewarned is forearmed.
      3. Alexey Boukin
        Alexey Boukin 6 March 2015 14: 00
        +13
        These BEARS will bring us to the handle. When will our guarantor turn his attention to the fact that the government is lobbying for the theft of the country? Or is it all decided to cover the rejection of 10% of their salaries?
        1. shershen
          shershen 6 March 2015 22: 39
          +7
          That is, you sincerely think that "our guarantor" is not in the know?
          Well, yes, of course, "Caesar can not be guilty."
          1. Tarhan
            Tarhan 8 March 2015 15: 43
            0
            Quote: shershen
            That is, you sincerely think that "our guarantor" is not in the know?
            Well, yes, of course, "Caesar can not be guilty."


            Not guilty Prince, these are bad boyars, but clerks are fools. And the prince is with us as a free application.
          2. Fedot Sagittarius
            Fedot Sagittarius 8 March 2015 16: 13
            0
            more than once I had to read about something, for example, someone said something from the government. And then you read the refutation. Well, it is not Putin who tells them, “tell them, and then refuse.” It seems to me that he has such “friends” that he does not need enemies either.
      4. shershen
        shershen 6 March 2015 22: 21
        +5
        We know these "dvorkovichs" to them if only they could "transfer something into ownership" and quietly screw them to the islands.
        As long as the "dvorkovichi" enter the government, there will always be a crisis in Russia.
        Sometimes it becomes really scary for the country when you think that "something happened" for these "dvorkovichs" no one will go to war.
    2. Gardamir
      Gardamir 6 March 2015 08: 17
      +49
      Those who are invited to the government are responsible for these people. It is up to him.
      1. lukewarm
        lukewarm 6 March 2015 12: 20
        +6
        What is there to decide. We decided already.
    3. Serge Mikhas
      Serge Mikhas 6 March 2015 08: 32
      +12
      The suicidal policies of the Russian authorities can only be explained by one thing: before the high probability of a coup d'etat, someone is bargaining for a quiet haven in the Middle Kingdom.


      What kind of nonsense? Give the Chinas deposits? What are the upheavals? What kind of policy? Most likely, such publications are preparing a dvorkovich to a kick from the government ... it's high time
      1. shtanko.49
        shtanko.49 6 March 2015 12: 20
        +9
        A week ago, Putin said that the gas pipeline would be built on its own without the involvement of Chinese workers. We need jobs and populate Siberia with our people.
    4. sub307
      sub307 6 March 2015 09: 01
      +33
      Well, yes, well, yes ... - drive of course. Only who will "drive" this sayim to do it. Our president seems to like everything: both Elvira Sakhipzadovna Nabiullina, and Medvedev with all his government ...
      1. Per se.
        Per se. 6 March 2015 09: 18
        +23
        Big and small, there was a TV report in Perm this morning.
        A gift for the "golden" wedding. The elderly spouses Khokhlova were left almost without a roof over their heads. The court ruled on the forced eviction of labor veterans. The reason is the outstanding debt to one of the microfinance organizations. Moreover, pensioners themselves did not take a loan. The news that their apartment already belonged to other people sounded to them like a bolt from the blue. The terrible news made the seventy-eight-year-old veteran really ill. The ambulance arrived. Doctors convinced court bailiffs to suspend enforcement actions. Due to the sharp deterioration in the state of health of the defendant. Eviction rescheduled for March 19. Elena Egovtseva, Mikhail Osetrov, Television News Service (Rifey, Perm).
        Why do not those crooks who people deceive be judged? Why are laws passed that are convenient for thieves and bandits? Why are decisions made dangerous or dubious for Russia itself? That is the question, and the answer, obviously, is the same, both on the topic of the article and on the occasion of the eviction of the elderly - gangster capitalism.
        1. bombardir
          bombardir 6 March 2015 11: 43
          +14
          Quote: Per se.
          Why are laws passed that are convenient for thieves and bandits? Why are decisions made dangerous or dubious for Russia itself?
          You did not ask the most important question - who and why puts his signature under these laws and decisions.
        2. candy wrapper13
          candy wrapper13 6 March 2015 13: 44
          +3
          Gaidar economic forum !!! see the list of participants angry
        3. nekish
          nekish 6 March 2015 14: 35
          +10
          ask your beloved Putin.
        4. Kite
          Kite 6 March 2015 19: 06
          +1
          You are more careful about the "law on the universal protection of old women"! In life, different things happen, not every old woman is a simpleton. Each particular case will have to be carefully considered. There was also such that the old women received money and the apartment remained with them.
        5. Aleksandr72
          Aleksandr72 7 March 2015 08: 27
          +4
          Because laws are passed by those for the protection of whose interests these laws are primarily intended. The same people make these decisions that are dangerous for the country, only because these decisions bring them benefits, albeit momentary. The interests of the country and especially the people mean nothing to them. And the power, like any power of the bourgeois state, first of all takes care of its inviolability, as well as of spare areas and parachutes, if you suddenly have to flee. Everything is subject to this. In Russia, the authorities are afraid and do not trust their own people. Making decisions in favor of big capital, the authorities nonetheless, realizing the possible negative consequences for themselves, take measures primarily to protect their interests, strengthening primarily the punitive apparatus. Compare the number of ground troops of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation - Ground forces (270.000 people, including 100.000 draftees) + Airborne Forces - 35 fighters; and the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation (000 people, including police: 647.000 people, internal troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs: 447.000 people. Figures from the report of the Ministry of Defense on the state of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation for 197.000.
          Now remember the text of the Military Oath that we gave in the Soviet Army and compare it with the modern one — the army of the Russian Federation (to protect the constitutional order, and only then the people, etc.). I believe that says it all.
          I have the honor.
      2. candy wrapper13
        candy wrapper13 6 March 2015 13: 37
        +5
        ... and Ksenia Sobchak with her * crystal honest * papa dermocrat and a little chubaisam
    5. DIVAN SOLDIER
      DIVAN SOLDIER 6 March 2015 09: 19
      +24
      I wonder who put these butlers and bears in the government ?????????
      1. bombardir
        bombardir 6 March 2015 11: 45
        +13
        Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
        I wonder who put these butlers and bears in the government ?????????
        The question, I suppose, is rhetorical?
      2. ZVEROBOY
        ZVEROBOY 6 March 2015 13: 41
        +22
        Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
        I wonder who put these butlers and bears in the government ?????????

        The president appointed the government, including Dvorkovich, as he appointed Serdyukov in his time. Once a mistake, a second time a coincidence, and a third time - intent!
      3. candy wrapper13
        candy wrapper13 6 March 2015 13: 49
        -5
        These are the questions asked at the beginning of Maidan 2014 recourse and what ended ... crying
        1. ZVEROBOY
          ZVEROBOY 6 March 2015 14: 07
          +12
          Quote: Fantik13
          These are the questions asked at the beginning of Maidan 2014 recourse and what ended ... crying

          But do you propose to wait for the Dvorkovichs to drag the whole country?
          1. Landser93
            Landser93 6 March 2015 14: 23
            +5
            At the beginning of the Maidan there was one question. "Will the colas let us go to the EU?", And you tell them that it's just a "free trade zone," and they
            - "you titushka niche do not understand us in the EU they take."
            So do not juggle, there were no such questions then, and then they yelled at the gett gang because they beat "onizhedey"
            1. Yars
              Yars 6 March 2015 15: 59
              -8
              but they actually beat "provocateurs" on the Maidan, who got stones from their pockets with slingshots! And on TV they said "about children"! Yes, and this article smells like white ribbon. Do not judge Putin until you know what he is facing there. Here some clever people cackled again - sofa experts.
          2. shershen
            shershen 6 March 2015 22: 50
            0
            I will ask a rhetorical question: "What can we do? To beat the" dvorvichy "- to save Russia?" Change the government? - this will only happen in the event of a civil war. The problem is that there are NO "painless" ways out of our situation. It's like a neglected tumor, now you can't do with pills - just cut it out.
    6. Blondy
      Blondy 6 March 2015 09: 30
      +1
      Well, Putin already said that Dvorkovich is a physical person, so don’t mind his suggestions.
    7. van50man
      van50man 6 March 2015 10: 01
      +17
      Not the first, cant, Dvorkovich. But, sits ,, rooted to the spot ,,! With an eternally absent gaze (,, in itself ,,) - Taldychit blizzard with the tenacity of a woodpecker. The mediator conspired about a “quiet” annexation of the Far East by the Chinese. The contract for hundreds of billions passed almost without discussion in parliament and the media, with the involvement of experts and public figures (I’m silent about the people), for what percentage of the rollback such preferences are to the neighbor (albeit the partner)? We must pay tribute to the stubbornness and ingenuity of the Chinese partners, , in promoting the century-old dream, of the Middle Kingdom, on the development of new northern territories at the expense of, being mastered,!
    8. marsavin.yu
      marsavin.yu 6 March 2015 10: 03
      +8
      And out of the country! With the confiscation of "acquired by back-breaking labor"!
      1. Grenader
        Grenader 6 March 2015 10: 33
        +9
        Only 1/3 of oil and gas revenues fall into the country's budget. In the colonial countries, in which later revolutions followed, followed by nationalization, 25% fell into the budget from raw materials revenues. Draw your own conclusions.
        1. Tarhan
          Tarhan 8 March 2015 16: 01
          0
          Quote: Grenader
          Draw your own conclusions.


          Yeah. China is making full use of the position of Russia into which the Kremlin has driven it.

          Why did you urgently need to sign a gas contract with China? And because the Kremlin, in violation of international treaties, was afraid of Europe’s refusal to use Russian gas or its significant reduction. And China was offered future gas supplies with all kinds of benefits.

          China did not expect. But in the Asian round head, thoughts spin constantly, since there are no angles for stagnation. And China has set its terms overlapping the proposed benefits. Like if not, then pull your gas pipeline to Australia. And the Kremlin creaked everything signed Not for nothing that Putin in one of the interviews called Beijing a difficult negotiator. And most of the agreement is classified. And the main thing - the people of Russia are not even informed of the price per thousand cubic meters. If not reported, then it can be assumed that the price is 2-3 times, or maybe more, lower than the European price.

          China took full advantage of the unexpected offer. And the children of Russians will have to disentangle the agreement.
      2. lukewarm
        lukewarm 6 March 2015 12: 23
        +8
        It seems out of the blue we will remain without a country. Departed, robbed, and also aggressors and occupiers.
        1. Fedot Sagittarius
          Fedot Sagittarius 7 March 2015 19: 24
          0
          It’s time for Putin to put on Stalin’s uniform. Well, at least for a while.
      3. candy wrapper13
        candy wrapper13 6 March 2015 13: 54
        0
        a * confiscate * in whose * pocket * what ?
        1. Fedot Sagittarius
          Fedot Sagittarius 7 March 2015 19: 29
          0
          Quote: Fantik13
          a * confiscate * in whose * pocket * what ?


          In the state. Everything should belong to the state. Factories, banks, minerals. ALL. Small business let it exist. Well, there to repair the shoes .. Or hem the curtains.
    9. boa constrictor
      boa constrictor 6 March 2015 10: 33
      +11
      Drive ??! Not!! It must be different !! Is there a capital punishment in China? Right!! Such as a Jew, Dvorkovich - a proposal from Koba: "The idea is good! But while analysts from the General Staff are calculating the pros and cons, you will sit down! It will be negative - according to the laws of the PRC - the patron will be paid by relatives! without the right of correspondence !! " Lord !! Bring Joseph Back !! And that is already really for ... butted all sorts of dvorkovichs, novodvorkovichs, sharikovs and sobachkovs, libarasts and the modern education system !! I'm not angry ...... I will offend the State !!!
    10. ivanzu87
      ivanzu87 6 March 2015 10: 46
      +17
      hahahaha, you think that they act independently? Such statements are not made without GDP. Not in our state.
    11. duke
      duke 6 March 2015 12: 03
      +5
      I believe that most likely - or ... it is curious what Joseph Vissarionovich would have done with such a "statesman" ... the fifth column in power, this is extremely dangerous, but it is believed that this public is watching from the rulers of the FRS .. therefore their task is to bring everything to the point of absurdity ...
      1. shershen
        shershen 6 March 2015 22: 54
        +2
        to the point of absurdity?
        no - to collapse.
    12. Mairos
      Mairos 6 March 2015 12: 27
      +2
      Or Dvorkovich or a traitor or .. the journalists did not understand anything and perverted the facts.
      1. Basarev
        Basarev 6 March 2015 12: 46
        +7
        Russia is simply put under China ...
        1. candy wrapper13
          candy wrapper13 6 March 2015 14: 03
          +4
          were under usa at bespal ... government on ... what and To whom to sell
    13. Denis fj
      Denis fj 6 March 2015 12: 43
      +3
      Worldwide practice involves finding a controlling stake in oil and gas fields in the state. Therefore, this news does not inspire positive emotions. But is it not that Dvorkovich who twice could not cope with solving the issue of electric trains ?! (:-)) And how Putin endures it so far, he should have been removed for a long time. Especially when he is the source of such bad news.
      1. shershen
        shershen 6 March 2015 22: 58
        +3
        The role of Putin is the "good tsar" (who fights against the cunning thieving "boyars")
        and so far he has successfully coped with this role, judging by the rabid PR of the president’s personality.
    14. Denis fj
      Denis fj 6 March 2015 12: 57
      +4
      I think it’s just a throw-in by the authorities to see the reaction of the people ..... if the people buzz, it means they won’t go looking for other options
    15. Landser93
      Landser93 6 March 2015 13: 36
      +10
      I absolutely agree with you, but there is only one problem, these "comrades" are put in key positions by VVP. I just don't understand how you can talk about the 5th Column, appoint traitors and appoint these traitors yourself? How can you broadcast for internal use about the patriotic position, the aggression of the West and all things, while you yourself pursue a liberal policy in the economy and finance? Well, it was not the State Department that appointed Surkov and Medvedev, it was not the State Department that said that Russia needs Chubaysk), it was not the State Department that appointed Nabiulin. Well, how Ukrainians are simply in those hands of Moscow, in our hands of the West. All the troubles and troubles of Russia from herself, from an external attack, have always fought off.
      Now the GDP is doing everything to start a turmoil, putting traitors on key posts, and dismissing or planting normal people (like Kvachkova). I’m just tearing up templates about how to broadcast about the struggle with the West and play in their field in economics and finance. In the Donbass, after all, it just seems that Russia does not want to win, but I generally am silent about the transfer of deposits to China, let’s go to the golden horde altogether. Soviet border guards stood against 10 thousand orcs on Taman Island, gave their lives, and the GDP took it and gave it away. He didn’t give the State Department, but the GDP. It would be a desire for a long time to abandon the liberal economy and develop as China and protect Russians in Ukraine, but the Russian elite and its helmsman will not abandon attempts to become part of the golden mld on any conditions, become quiet Canada and that we would not be touched, but they were a colonial elite and pledged with them in the West.
      Oh, it’s all sad, is there, after the displacement (that’s all) and the death of the GDP (objectively he is already 62 years old) his Minin and Pozharsky, or his Peter 1, Alexander 2, Stolypin?
      Put a minus, but this is my IMHO, here the KhPP sect also shouted that GDP is doing everything right, but as some said personally, Donbass will go quiet, go to Crimea already there are articles about Crimea, the OSCE wants to return to the discussion of Crimea, liberals are preparing maidan in Moscow and who He knows that in the presidential administration the minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs will be told not to disperse, or how in Ukraine the head admin Levochkin made a provocation and dispersed 1,5 students, which was used to build Ukraine.
      So God help us all and send a normal president
      1. Kite
        Kite 6 March 2015 19: 17
        -1
        Quote: Landser93
        Now GDP is doing everything to start a turmoil

        - Troll Kuevsky has settled down here or what? .banko?
        1. Landser93
          Landser93 6 March 2015 19: 31
          0
          Not Kiev Troll, but the State Department,))
          I’ll go take off the prize)
      2. Yars
        Yars 6 March 2015 19: 19
        -2
        this is what Putin is doing to start a distemper? The fact that he raised Russia from its knees and raises it at such a difficult time ??? Kvachkov was preparing the beam, how it was planted, what is not clear here ?! What does not suit you personally ?! The fact that the cave did not take place in Russia ?! God forbid tomorrow Putin will not be, the Americans, with the help of their puppets, will flood all the geyrop in their blood!
        1. saag
          saag 6 March 2015 19: 23
          +4
          Quote: YARS
          God forbid tomorrow does not become Putin

          It will inevitably happen to everyone
          1. Landser93
            Landser93 6 March 2015 19: 30
            -2
            For them it’s God! Volodka is a man of advanced age, we must not forget about it.
            - "Oh, you are 100500 Column of the State Department of spirituality on you is not, Put God"
            sect reactions laughing
            1. Yars
              Yars 7 March 2015 16: 04
              +1
              I am very surprised by people like you! What makes you think that Putin is like God for some !? Have you ever thought about the fact that everyone sees the situation in their own way !? The fact that if it were not Putin, Russia would not have existed for a long time, so this is an indisputable fact! In Ukraine, we already had a bad president, Yanukovych, changed, and how do you like the result? Civil War! Like? Dollar from 8gr to 30gr per year, payment 5 times, and the worst is yet to come .... Like it? You also want a sharp change of power! You at least thank that you dispersed this Jewish seven-bankership ..... And in our country it finally settled in power according to the "reduced Euromaidansky"
        2. Landser93
          Landser93 6 March 2015 19: 32
          -1
          Emperor Nicholas 2 also thought so, while listening to the liberals. Now all the top positions in the government, and the liberal banks occupy. The result is obvious.
        3. shershen
          shershen 6 March 2015 23: 10
          +6
          And what prevented him from doing this (raising Russia from its knees) three - five - ten years ago? A lack of money? "5th Column"? That's right - nothing!
          The country is divided into "estates", and they require protection from here and rearmament.
          Or does someone seriously think that the government has suddenly taken care of the security of the people?
          1. Fedot Sagittarius
            Fedot Sagittarius 7 March 2015 13: 12
            0
            Yes, it is about the security of the country. Or do you not know that NOTA ships directly registered in the Black Sea? Or don’t you know that all of Europe is arming itself? You do not know that weapons are being supplied to Ukraine ?. Or do you think that Latvia wants to attack Poland?
      3. shershen
        shershen 6 March 2015 23: 02
        +3
        It's a shame to read, but a shame, as a rule, is true,
        and pleasant, as a rule, is a lie.
        “All the troubles and troubles of Russia have always fought off from itself, from an external attack” - how can you not agree with this?
    16. nekish
      nekish 6 March 2015 14: 31
      -1
      and further Internet, this exclamation will not go away ...
    17. Vittt
      Vittt 6 March 2015 20: 34
      +2
      Quote: Arctidian
      Dvorkovich, Medvedev and the like drive a filthy broom from the government!

      It’s now decided to rinse Lukashenko everywhere.
      Beltransgaz is the only company in Belarus that it sold to Russia. There was nowhere to go. On the other hand, it is Russia, after all, and not all fuet.
      I, a citizen of Belarus, are concerned about the sale, EVEN NOT OUR OWNERSHIP! It is unacceptable! May these Chinese chew their own painting of straw!
      It’s just a throw in Russia! Dvorkovich - THIS IS YOUR MIRACLE MAN !!! Get it off!
    18. Tribuns
      Tribuns 6 March 2015 21: 11
      +8
      By course change: Vladimir Putin endorsed the Government’s policy (and, consequently, the actions of Prime Minister Medvedev) in congratulating the ministers on 2015, and at the same time (that’s bad) said he was counting on the good work of the Government ...
      By replacing Medvedev Kudrin: Firstly, radish horseradish is not sweeter, both open liberals, and their favorite tool is the Western patterns of a market economy ... Secondly, there will be no replacement until the next term for the presidential election in Russia, which will end the agreement between two first persons of the state according to their alternation at the posts of prime minister and president ...
      Here is such an internal political alignment!
    19. Tarhan
      Tarhan 8 March 2015 15: 39
      0
      Quote: Arctidian
      Dvorkovich, Medvedev and the like drive a filthy broom from the government!


      And who can drive them out? Only Putin, he put them. And they do not solve their vision of problems, but clearly and scrupulously comply with the Kremlin’s instructions. Otherwise, they won’t even sit in their chairs for minutes.
      1. Fedot Sagittarius
        Fedot Sagittarius 8 March 2015 16: 19
        0
        Quote: Tarkhan
        Quote: Arctidian
        Dvorkovich, Medvedev and the like drive a filthy broom from the government!


        And who can drive them out? Only Putin, he put them. And they do not solve their vision of problems, but clearly and scrupulously comply with the Kremlin’s instructions. Otherwise, they won’t even sit in their chairs for minutes.

        Well, they are also not made with a finger. So they can shit that will not seem a little. Vaughn Chubais - filled with a nightingale, and sold the whole country. So you can't just throw it out. We need reasons, arguments and proofs. In general, then "put on a stake, everything and business" (Ivan Vasilyevich, changes his profession)
        1. Tarhan
          Tarhan 8 March 2015 16: 48
          0
          Quote: Fedot Sagittarius
          Well, they, too, are not made with a finger.


          Of course not with a finger. They are fostered by the Kremlin and nourished by it.

          Quote: Fedot Sagittarius
          Vaughn Chubais - nightingale flooded, and sold the whole country.


          And they didn’t ask themselves a question - why, from the entire Gaidar team, only Chubais has not gone anywhere and lives happily ever after?
          By my assumption. Chubais, even before entering the Gaidar team, was a secret KGB officer. And perhaps, on instructions and with the help of the KGB, he climbed into the team. And as expected, he wrote in the KGB or daily or weekly reports.

          And when people from the KGB came to power, how would they dismiss such a valuable agent. Here Chubais, one of the entire Gaidar team, remained afloat. And it is not waves of criticism or condemnation that take him because he is protected by the Kremlin.
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          2. Fedot Sagittarius
            Fedot Sagittarius 8 March 2015 17: 03
            0
            Quote: Tarkhan


            And they didn’t ask themselves a question - why, from the entire Gaidar team, only Chubais has not gone anywhere and lives happily ever after?
            By my assumption. Chubais, even before entering the Gaidar team, was a secret KGB officer. And perhaps, on instructions and with the help of the KGB, he climbed into the team. And as expected, he wrote in the KGB or daily or weekly reports.

            And when people from the KGB came to power, how would they dismiss such a valuable agent. Here Chubais, one of the entire Gaidar team, remained afloat. And it is not waves of criticism or condemnation that take him because he is protected by the Kremlin.

            Maybe. Or maybe just - everything has its own time ... Maybe there is a bridge for him? In general, he is very hotro * opy.
  2. koksalek
    koksalek 6 March 2015 07: 18
    +31
    The meanness multiplied by deceit. This is how you must hate your country to do so. Although for him, probably his own country is not Russia, here he is exclusively on earnings
    1. Boos
      Boos 6 March 2015 07: 46
      +20
      It is for sure that there are many such guest workers in the government, from the "Promised Land."
    2. Tribuns
      Tribuns 6 March 2015 21: 24
      +9
      Zadornov also repeatedly wondered to the president, who for some reason endured this liberal Government ...
  3. killganoff
    killganoff 6 March 2015 07: 18
    +28
    Yes, our bosses do not rush to squander the good of the people. A part of the Barents Sea was presented to the taxes and they did not blink an eye.
    1. fktrcfylhn61
      fktrcfylhn61 6 March 2015 08: 03
      +10
      And the same Medvedev !!!
      1. Tribuns
        Tribuns 6 March 2015 21: 38
        +5
        Professor Vladislav Feldblum (Yaroslavl) [http://www.portalus.ru/modules/politics/rus_readme.php?subaction=sho
        wfull & id = 1389985658 & archive = & start_from = & ucat = &]: “Russia should in no case continue to follow the path of rotten economic liberalism. This path does not correspond to the understanding of economic freedom in the modern era of complex and often dangerous knowledge-intensive industries that require clear coordination, reasonable planning, high competence, discipline and responsibility. The organizing role of the state in our time cannot be overestimated. Not to remove the state from the sphere of economic management, but to improve public administration, learn from past mistakes, the ability to avoid ill-considered and inadequate political decisions, plan and implement comprehensive and balanced economic development, skillfully coordinate the economic activities of the public sector and private business, and direct this activity in the mainstream of national interests "
  4. Flinky
    Flinky 6 March 2015 07: 18
    -4
    Give the author a head shot.
    I found someone to listen seriously - a young Jew!
    1. kenig1
      kenig1 6 March 2015 07: 24
      +16
      The Jew himself does not say anything.
    2. Consul-t
      Consul-t 6 March 2015 08: 49
      +10
      For what? The author correctly raised the topic.
      And here we started to express our emotions. What I think is not right.
      What is the use of this? How can we influence this? Block?

      Better write, how to express general condemnation of this project?
      Who knows how to do this? for example, write everyone letters to the Presidential Administration and addressed to Dvorkovich, so that he would know that people see his vile little soul.
      Give a specific link
      If everyone writes a letter, maybe it will work.
      Only in this way can we convey to the people at the head of state our position.
      If you go out on the street, this urge will be immediately picked up by the opposition for their own purposes.
      And we don’t need Maidan in the country.
      1. creak
        creak 6 March 2015 09: 28
        +9
        Quote: Consul-t
        in the name of Dvorkovich, so that he knows that people see his vile little soul.


        And after such a collective petition (as under the king's father from slaves) Dvorkovich will be ashamed and stop trading in the Motherland? But I’m wondering something else - why VVP still doesn’t see his "vile soul" and for all his art only, on camera, slightly reproaches? After all, the President's eyesight is all right and it is a matter of minutes to remove Dvorkovich for him.
        And you, of course, will open your eyes with your petition to him. Some kind of kindergarten, but like adults yes
        1. candy wrapper13
          candy wrapper13 6 March 2015 14: 14
          +5
          GDP was in the * team * of the bullshit A.Sobchak and to Moscow, behind him, HIS * pulled * a little bit of Chubais yes what to expect from gdp crying
        2. Sivan
          Sivan 6 March 2015 20: 53
          0
          And why, excuse me, did Stalin not immediately clean the fifth column? Berry and other interesting personalities.
      2. saag
        saag 6 March 2015 09: 36
        +9
        Quote: Consul-t
        If everyone writes a letter, maybe it will work.

        Yeah, otherwise they’re sitting in the Kremlin, they’re just waiting for a kick in the form of petitions
        1. Consul-t
          Consul-t 6 March 2015 12: 05
          +4
          When there is no response to their statement, when there is no feedback, they begin to become impudent and more and more do their job.
          When they involuntarily begin to flood them with letters, they begin to understand that the people care and will not give a ride to the ball.

          IF WE WILL BE SILENT, SO WILL BE CONSIDERED TO US

          What is the use of sitting on the couch to show your emotions here ??? Does Dvorkovich twitch from this?
          Some kind of kindergarten, but like adults


          Kindergarten sit at home and wait for happiness to knock on the door
          1. ZVEROBOY
            ZVEROBOY 6 March 2015 13: 55
            +7
            Quote: Consul-t
            When there is no response to their statement, when there is no feedback, they begin to become impudent and more and more do their job.


            IF WE WILL BE SILENT, SO WILL BE CONSIDERED TO US


            Kindergarten sit at home and wait for happiness to knock on the door

            As soon as someone raises his voice against the anti-people’s actions of the authorities, he is immediately labeled with a swamp and accused of rocking a leaky boat, and the authorities are hysterical about whether you want the Maidan and proposals to unite around. .
            Lies, forgery, treachery - these are the hallmarks of the power of modern Russia
            1. Landser93
              Landser93 6 March 2015 14: 05
              +2
              Do you want to minus it or not, but it seems to me that the liberal Russia’s Independence Square is not extinct, and the liberals are in power, and so only when the coup d'etat is inside the elite, they will take out hamsters of the type for the picture. Authorities allow thousands of liberal orgies, clowns come from Ukraine to insult Russia, US puppets (bulk, etc.) are not just sitting there, they also feel great. It means that the authorities are not afraid of them and support them, the same channel Rain belongs to Gazprom Media, and Posner (his great-grandfather or grandfather I don’t remember the Jewish terrorist who killed Poland in 1905, Russian soldiers, police, local residents who supported the tsar) on channel 1. But as soon as Russians go out of their household demands, the Caucasians of the Russian guy will score in a crowd (we remember yes), then some other kind of purely social rallies, then Kvachkov will start to fight, all the power of the liberal punishing machine falls on our people, people are attacked in the press with a predominance of 1 nationality (Posner, nightingales) hang fascist labels, riot police presses everyone
          2. candy wrapper13
            candy wrapper13 6 March 2015 14: 19
            0
            sitting at home and learning AK -47 wink
            that the courtyard will cry and get better we don’t believe Maidan, we see where we started, we learn Chinese good
      3. candy wrapper13
        candy wrapper13 6 March 2015 14: 08
        +5
        and the government * shift workers * (landon - maskva) do we need?
  5. Miklukho Maclay
    Miklukho Maclay 6 March 2015 07: 19
    -7
    And let's send our pilgrims to Tibet, in the case of Chago, then we can hold a referendum there
    1. Orang
      Orang 6 March 2015 07: 26
      +11
      The Chinese will hold you there like that ...
      1. Mister22408
        Mister22408 6 March 2015 22: 29
        0
        So what if Dvorkovich leads? Or do they know that he will not take root there laughing
  6. KOH
    KOH 6 March 2015 07: 21
    -4
    Well, well, negotiations have been going on for 10 years, with the Chinese, and suddenly Putin will allow Dvorkovich to sign something there, the author muddies up, Putin almost nailed Dvorkovich for the electric trains, and here it is, obviously "distorted" some ...
    1. muginov2015
      muginov2015 6 March 2015 09: 12
      +7
      it was written by me a week ago, I remember that I was severely minuscated.

      muginov2015 (9) RU  February 27, 2015 12:54


      And here is another national idea from Dvorkovich to sell Russia with giblets:
      Dvorkovich did not rule out China getting a share of more than 50% in the fields
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 6 March 2015 10: 12
        +3
        Judging by their actions, Dvorkovich, like Surkov, are representatives of that same 5 column! It’s time to drive them out before we’ve done even more trouble!
    2. muginov2015
      muginov2015 6 March 2015 09: 12
      -1
      it was written by me a week ago, I remember that I was severely minuscated.

      muginov2015 (9) RU  February 27, 2015 12:54


      And here is another national idea from Dvorkovich to sell Russia with giblets:
      Dvorkovich did not rule out China getting a share of more than 50% in the fields
    3. candy wrapper13
      candy wrapper13 6 March 2015 14: 24
      +2
      eliktrichki - a movie for NAS.has noisy and went to share the yuni yuni
  7. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 6 March 2015 07: 22
    -4
    Author Igor Kabardin
    Everything disappeared and all delivered.
    Panicking, some will say. Maybe. But a sane person should always consider the worst scenario as the most likely.
    The author doesn’t leave your home, the worst case scenario for you is to get under the car. The worst case scenario, but consider it as the most probable.
    1. Kibalchish
      6 March 2015 07: 25
      +10
      In vain irony. Alexander. A lot of people are dying on the roads and I personally try to be careful, which is what I wish for you.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 6 March 2015 08: 07
        0
        Quote: Kibalchish
        In vain irony. Alexander.

        Not irony, but logic.
        Read ..
        Alarmism, some will say. maybe
        That is, the author does not deny that perhaps he is an alarmist and at the same time ...But a sane person
        But can there be a alarmist as a sane person? After all, panic is the direct opposite of common sense.
        And about the roads, if you know exactly where and how to cross the street, then the author does not know anything about contracts, but despite this draws conclusions. It's like you go out onto an unfamiliar highway and be sure to tell everyone standing at the stop, that the bus will pass through here in a day. This will be your guess (as the worst option), but some will believe you. And then, when they see the bus in 15 minutes, you just shrug your hands, well, you never know everyone is mistaken.
        1. Kibalchish
          6 March 2015 08: 19
          +12
          The answer is simple. The worst option is voiced not so that everyone in panic begins to rush around in circles "Help! Help!", But in order to draw a conclusion in the spirit of "Ok, we are preparing for this development of events as well."
          If it does not come true, then you can breathe a sigh of relief, but praise yourself for your caution. If it comes true, then you were already ready and provided for various options. Here is the logic for you too.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 6 March 2015 08: 43
            +1
            Quote: Kibalchish
            If it does not come true, then you can breathe a sigh of relief, but praise yourself for your caution. If it comes true, then you were already ready and provided for various options. Here is the logic for you too.

            This is not logic. If a person is writing an article, then he should rely on facts, not speculation. It was logical to find out what and how to print the article precisely and then. Although in our world of journalism, you can print anything. Look at the comments for many of the author’s assumptions are enough to take them for facts. When sensible people have enough assumptions, this is not logical, but this is a fact.
            1. Kibalchish
              6 March 2015 09: 08
              +11
              The fact is Mr. Dvorkovich’s specific assumptions. They were quite straightforward, no one pulled his tongue. Relying on them (for there is no concrete law yet) we draw conclusions on what in theory a similar initiative on Russian soil can lead to. Terrified. We draw the worst-case scenario (sincerely hoping that it still will not be) - people are horrified and indignant on the Internet. If there is too much indignation, there is a chance that the initiative will be corrected already at the stage of the bill. We will be silent - we will receive in full.
            2. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 6 March 2015 09: 15
              +10
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              If a person writes an article, then he should rely on facts, not speculation

              The facts will be ready-made contracts with the PRC, and you won’t include the back one.
            3. Kite
              Kite 6 March 2015 19: 43
              -1
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              When "sensible" people have enough assumptions, it is not logical, but it is a fact.

              - I'm sorry that I made a quote in the quote, but many writers forget about their quotes. Why rush to incompetent conclusions, superficial judgments? Why are they not critical of themselves? How do they build communication around themselves with uncompromising attitudes to events?
              Did Dvorkovich announce the resolved issue? How many years can it still be sucked? In the meantime, we must direct the main forces to resolve the most important issue.
    2. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 6 March 2015 09: 13
      +1
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      But a sane person should always consider the worst case scenario as the most likely.

      Everything is right Sanya, everything is right. Hope for the worst - you will live longer!
      1. KOH
        KOH 6 March 2015 11: 35
        0
        As "Wise Gudgeon" - went and died ... all the same, everything is bad ...
    3. Cobine.
      Cobine. 6 March 2015 22: 45
      -2
      Similar authors periodically publish on nvo. Alarmism, at least, but as a maximum, expresses the point of view of Western supporters: "You don't need to get closer to China, it will enslave you." At the same time, these comrades do not express any worthy arguments at all, confining themselves to horror stories alone.
  8. kenig1
    kenig1 6 March 2015 07: 24
    -4
    The author calm down, the Chinese are sitting on cheaper gas and oil in Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan. Where did you get the nonsense about the existing deposits where there are already shareholders. They offered to participate only in projects and then excluding the Russian shelf.
  9. ma_shlomha
    ma_shlomha 6 March 2015 07: 27
    +3
    Arctidian RU Today, 07:14 AM New
    Dvorkovich, Medvedev and the like drive a filthy broom from the government!


    after “Poroshenko’s partner”, “united Ukraine” and “Nabiullina acts correctly”?
    1. Kite
      Kite 6 March 2015 10: 08
      -2
      Quote: ma_shlomha
      after the "partner Poroshenko"

      - Well, yes, if on the forum whom to contact, calling your counterpart a colleague, how many readers will think that they are reading correspondence of homies? The author, judging by his article, will perceive such an appeal in exactly this way.
      1. Landser93
        Landser93 6 March 2015 13: 52
        -4
        And Poroshenko as the best chance of Ukraine? Was Lavrov forced to say this under torture?
        1. Kite
          Kite 6 March 2015 18: 20
          -2
          the best of which is ??? The choice you made from: .......... Excluded from the candidates: .......... Remind lists, or do you know them more precisely?
          1. Kite
            Kite 6 March 2015 18: 46
            -1
            No. I will not remind you what you yourself have chosen. For those who emotionally perceive words and facts, let me remind you of another, as indisputable as what I wrote at 10 hours 08min
            At one time I.V. Stalin twice personally and in person negotiated with Churchill and the president of the country that organized the two world wars. Does that mean that he made friends with them? Should he have called them in the negotiations: "goat" and "hog"?
            1. Landser93
              Landser93 6 March 2015 19: 37
              -2
              And I thought Germany had unleashed a war, wow what knowledge)))) Tell us about it to historians of the Russian Academy of Sciences or military historians of mines of defense)
              The great helmsman Stalin gave people freedom not like tsarism (although under the USSR, peasants did not have a passport and could not leave until some 50 years, unlike the Republic of Ingushetia after 1861, but that’s okay)
              In general, looking at the leadership of the USSR 20-60 it seems that not Russia defeated the Kaganate, not RI colonized the Caucasus, but they Russia.
              We recouped so to speak.
              When will the power of the Hordes be glorified? There, Genghis Khan created the first multinational state, the homeland of 666 peoples, the Mongols brothers and all affairs, the yoke is an invention of the blood of the West.
              1. Kite
                Kite 6 March 2015 19: 56
                0
                You thought? It is amazing!
                Try to think of such a riddle: in the early 30s, German tank crews dragged plywood mock-ups of tanks due to the lack of iron and with engines (the first dill didn’t think of it, they were only followers). If you find the answer, you will find out a lot more of what you missed.
  10. Nayhas
    Nayhas 6 March 2015 07: 28
    +8
    It still surprises someone ... It’s time to get used to the idea that the stability of the current government will depend on China ... like in Tajikistan, for example ... The price of this is own resources ...
  11. Tatar 174
    Tatar 174 6 March 2015 07: 30
    +7
    Dvorkovich is definitely wrong! This can not be done in any way. Today, if this proposal passes, then tomorrow people like him can tell whether we’ll give Kamchatka or Siberia for an indefinite lease to someone, like we still don’t have funds for development. Dvorkovich for this proposal to squander the riches of Russia to dismiss!
    1. candy wrapper13
      candy wrapper13 6 March 2015 14: 34
      +1
      and today * the riches of Russia * are favored by LUKOIL BP GAZpromU and others (to private companies with shareholders in us and other dermocratic countries)
  12. Michael_59
    Michael_59 6 March 2015 07: 33
    +6
    Dvorkovich, what did not offer a piece of Israel to the Chinese?
  13. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 6 March 2015 07: 40
    -4
    A potential investor is usually first invited to invest in geological exploration, the creation of infrastructure and other things.


    In this part, I agree with the author.

    facing a high probability of a coup, someone is bidding for a quiet haven in the Middle Kingdom.


    Not just stupidity, but a provocative text. The author clearly dreams of a victory for the "white tape opposition". In ancient times, there was one capacious word for such - counter.
    1. candy wrapper13
      candy wrapper13 6 March 2015 14: 40
      +2
      and why there is no other opposition, which would degenerate the interests of the PEOPLE of the Russian Federation? can for ento GDP and * hold *?
  14. commander
    commander 6 March 2015 07: 42
    0
    Another visionary plan of the Kremlin, the calculation goes to our grandchildren. Let it be better now it will be cheaper, it has already passed with Europe. Ancestors say thank you for what is being done.
  15. k174oun7
    k174oun7 6 March 2015 07: 44
    +3

    "This seemingly suicidal policy of the Russian authorities can only be explained by one thing: before the high probability of a coup d'etat, someone is bargaining for a safe haven in the Celestial Empire."
    Announce the entire list, please.
  16. Victor Demchenko
    Victor Demchenko 6 March 2015 07: 44
    +11
    Unfortunately, Russia has long been selling resources and electricity to the Middle Kingdom cheaper than its own consumers. Also, our country gave way to the southern neighbor of the island on the Amur, without setting any special conditions. The implementation of the current "brilliant initiatives" of Dvorkovich runs the risk of finally and irrevocably turning the Russian Federation no longer a vassal, but into a frank colony of the PRC. Therefore, when Arkady Vladimirovich repeatedly repeated about the “Chinese friends”, it was tempting to ask how good the relations with them were - like in the recent past with “fraternal Ukraine” and “American partners”? And if so, then what should unhappy Russians do - dig dugouts or immediately acquire Mao's quotations for memorization?
    And you know, my ladies and gentlemen of the forum, that vague suspicions about the actions of our (so far) rulers torment me, they all very much chorus the interests of ANY state in unison, to the detriment of ours and us ... negative

    in my time it’s time to change them to more acceptable candidates!
  17. Armored optimist
    Armored optimist 6 March 2015 07: 49
    -5
    So far, GDP has failed to decisively deal with the fifth column. But not all at once. Every dog ​​has his day!
    I think a plump bundle of incriminating evidence is on every liberalist. It is now they are forced to dress up as patriots, and once they did not hide their pro-Western views, or even specific sponsors.
    1. dmb
      dmb 6 March 2015 10: 26
      +7
      There is no doubt about the compromising material. And trust not only the liberals. and even the most staunch "statists" such as Shoigu or Yakunin. It remains only to find out why "a holiday on our street" is not arranged, with 80% support from a wise leader. What are your thoughts on this score?
      1. saag
        saag 6 March 2015 11: 30
        0
        Quote: dmb
        It remains only to find out why "a holiday on our street" is not arranged, with 80% support from a wise leader. What are your thoughts on this score?

        There was something like a picture - a cowboy is sitting, tied to a tree, a revolver is fixed in front of him, the trunk is looking into the cowboy’s forehead, a cord is attached to the trigger, the other end is tied to the cowboy’s member through the block, a naked beauty is standing in front of the cowboy’s gaze, and everything a cow looks with pity, something like that probably :-)
    2. Landser93
      Landser93 6 March 2015 13: 51
      0
      But it’s nothing that the gross domestic product puts this column itself, and it would have been clear if there had been a couple of years in power, and already for 15 years. Oh, something I doubt who is the main fifth column. He either does not understand and the advisers say so (such as they had at Yanyka, the Levochkins and others who arranged a coup d'etat) or he has such intent and he puts 5 column, because they do not leave any hope of entering the gold mld at least for some rights and by Europe ride. Where do their children live learn look? What kind of Russia are they thinking about?
    3. Armored optimist
      Armored optimist 6 March 2015 14: 21
      0
      Liberasts are minus.
      I am satisfied.
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 7 March 2015 01: 31
        -3
        What is interesting - their number on the site is less than the number of minuses. I also zealously zealous.
  18. Shmel-pchel
    Shmel-pchel 6 March 2015 07: 49
    0
    Where is Putin looking? For a long time it was necessary to disperse all this government scum, led by Medvedev !!
  19. Alcoholic
    Alcoholic 6 March 2015 07: 49
    +5
    Why be surprised?
    A person of Semitic nationality.
    What else can you expect?
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 6 March 2015 09: 18
      +1
      Quote: Alcoholic
      A person of Semitic nationality.

      There them through one. And among the "opposition" practically everything. And then some representatives of the liberal nationality are surprised - why don't they like them? hi
  20. fomkin
    fomkin 6 March 2015 07: 50
    +5
    Durkovich only voices the thoughts of himself, and then he will give a ride. I. Kabardin wrote everything correctly, but the cons of the article were obviously put shuttles from the Middle Kingdom, in which Chinese-made calculators were used instead of brains.
  21. pts-m
    pts-m 6 March 2015 07: 52
    +6
    “Thin” policy of the Byzantine heirs and their eunuchs in Russia. And the people are left ... blah blah ...
  22. Yurmix
    Yurmix 6 March 2015 07: 55
    +7
    Quote: Arctidian
    Dvorkovich, Medvedev and the like drive a filthy broom from the government!

    And who will drive them then? one gang of watering can. Has anyone heard of the government taking any measures to correct the situation, which is very complicated in everything. Basically, V.V.P. oversees all areas of activity of security structures, because he has ceased to trust the government, and the same Medvedev, except for hobby for iPhones and inciting others to sell strategic stocks, does nothing.
    1. candy wrapper13
      candy wrapper13 6 March 2015 14: 46
      +2
      are waiting for oil prices to rise
  23. saag
    saag 6 March 2015 07: 58
    +12
    This is not stupidity, but a test ball, they observe a reaction, in general, all this reminds me of Nikolai II’s environment
  24. Ivan Tarasov
    Ivan Tarasov 6 March 2015 08: 03
    -6
    No, no, here we must immediately put a condition - everything is in Russian, let them learn Russian.
  25. Gardamir
    Gardamir 6 March 2015 08: 23
    +17
    Now they often do that. Throw an idea and wait. If the people stir up, it means for now to set aside. and then quietly they’ll do it anyway.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 6 March 2015 09: 20
      +8
      Quote: Gardamir
      Now they often do that. Throw an idea and wait

      I constantly pay attention to this technique! hi
      1. ivanzu87
        ivanzu87 6 March 2015 15: 01
        +4
        I agree, stuffing, checking public opinion.
        And by the way, all unpopular measures are voiced by Medvedev, Dvorkovich, etc. And all the popular and positive GDP.
        Political technology, hell. GDP is never associated with anything negative.
  26. Nitarius
    Nitarius 6 March 2015 08: 23
    -1
    I agree only in ONE .. WORKERS OWN them only GAS and products!
  27. KAZAK65
    KAZAK65 6 March 2015 08: 38
    +1
    that they’ve lost their minds in the Duma
    1. van50man
      van50man 6 March 2015 10: 11
      +1
      ... you cannot lose what - NO! But you can run into something I did not expect!
  28. Gray 43
    Gray 43 6 March 2015 08: 41
    +4
    An interesting picture, the Westerners are outraged that Siberia belongs only to Russia, and not to the entire "world community", now stupid people want to give China what still makes a profit. The fact that Dvorkovich was indicatively "whipped" does not mean anything else , he was not fired, although in the current conditions it would be logical.
  29. alicante11
    alicante11 6 March 2015 08: 42
    -5
    There is a saying "the belt has not yet been removed, but it is already holding onto the pants." What is it all about? It has already been announced which fields will be exploited by the Chinese? Are there legislative or at least regulations on "Chinese cities" and their extraterritoriality?
    In general, the decision is absolutely logical. I spoke about him ten years ago. We ourselves will not be able to master most of our wealth for a long time. So why not get a profit from their development by the Chinese? "The main thing is to do everything according to the mind. The Chinese need resources, they need land for settlement and farmland. We have a lot of all of the above. Therefore, we need to allow Chinese settlements and Chinese companies to develop raw materials and But the main thing is to remember that the settlements located on our territory should be rotational, not permanent. And these should be closed ghettos. We have enough of our own problems, there is nothing else to take on the problems of the Chinese population. settlements should be built by the Chinese for their own money, and with a margin, on these communications we can hang our new settlements and cities in which people can work to maintain the infrastructure for the Chinatowns and enterprises. even if we have 50% of the shares, 50% of the profit will be ours. The main thing is not to give controlling stakes. I, you can introduce legal restrictions.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 6 March 2015 09: 24
      +2
      Quote: alicante11
      So why not profit from their development by the Chinese "?

      Chinese companies, most likely, will not want to deal with Russian workers and specialists, but will bring their own, as they do in Kazakhstan and other places.
      The question is - do we need this? Such side effects can lead to sad consequences.
      1. alicante11
        alicante11 6 March 2015 13: 11
        -2
        The question is - do we need this? Such side effects can lead to sad consequences.


        Extra money will not hurt, and consequences can be foreseen to prevent.
    2. saag
      saag 6 March 2015 09: 40
      +3
      Quote: alicante11
      We ourselves will not be able to master most of our wealth for a long time. So why not profit from their development by the Chinese "?

      And why are you in such a hurry to master them, they are there and let them be, everything has its time, profit can also be obtained by developing industry, rather than selling raw materials
      1. alicante11
        alicante11 6 March 2015 13: 17
        -2
        And why are you in such a hurry to master them, they are there and let them be, everything has its time, profit can also be obtained by developing industry, rather than selling raw materials


        It is precisely for the money that the Chinese will give us for the use of resources that industry can be developed. Plus, the infrastructure that the Chinese will do, we can use it too.
        Of course, nature is beautiful in the Far East, but I would also like a little urban landscapes, and even north of Komsomolsk, for example, along Amur it is very difficult to find traces of human activity. Yes, at BAM, the most common type of settlement is a driveway with a five-story building, a station building and a boiler room. And then, of course, along the piece of iron.
        1. saag
          saag 6 March 2015 19: 28
          +1
          Quote: alicante11
          It is precisely for the money that the Chinese will give us for the use of resources that industry can be developed.

          The USSR acted a little differently, did not expect money from the sale of crafts, and yet how it was possible to build industrial centers
          1. alicante11
            alicante11 7 March 2015 03: 17
            0
            The USSR acted a little differently, did not expect money from the sale of crafts, and yet how it was possible to build industrial centers


            In the USSR there were no kodli oligarchs. Plus, however, forced industrialization led to the famine of the 31st year. So firstly, the state does not dispose of the majority of domestic assets, and secondly, the people now simply do not understand such a tough industrialization. Especially compared to the same oligarchs.
  30. magirus581
    magirus581 6 March 2015 08: 49
    -1
    Dvorkovich seems to easily fall under extraneous influence; he completely lacks an understanding of the priority of state benefit over the interests of private companies and other countries.
  31. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 6 March 2015 09: 06
    +19
    Do you actually know how the Chinese negotiate contracts? They come to negotiations, listen to you politely, smile, nod their heads, say politely, "This is interesting" and after the negotiations they do not sign anything and leave. And so it will be repeated countless times, the Chinese never offer anything themselves! They say: "You propose, and we will choose the option that suits us." Therefore, it’s not only difficult, but simply impossible to negotiate with them, well, actually, how can you negotiate with people who are smiling at you and not saying what they really need from you. Usually negotiations last for many months to no avail and when you don’t know what to offer, the most inconspicuous of the Chinese delegation will come up to you, about whom you will never think that he has been convicted of any rights and starts to complain about the Chinese workers who will work on this project, Chinese women and real Chinese cuisine will not be missed, and leaves, and you stand and do not understand what it is about as no one, at all, did not speak about any such Chinese workers on the project It was supposed that ours would work there. This is how they put you before the fact that they need it and, moreover, they never compromise. Never! They "crush the" unfortunate "partner" who risked contacting them to the end. That is why "negotiations" were conducted with them for so many years on gas and oil, until they were offered an option that was "quite interesting" and they signed, but only a "protocol of intent" which in fact does not bind to anything. Now they are smiling again politely and following their own rules, they want to finish the situation to the end and again they do not sign any final documents, they try to extract the maximum benefit for themselves. Hence these proposals of Dvorkovich, etc. Actually, the author is right when he says that with such "friends in quotation marks, like the Chinese, there is no need for enemies." The Chinese conduct business, wherever, only on their own terms and instantly abandon it at the slightest threat, loss of profit or interest, and they have such a "sweet" habit of not informing their "unfortunate" "partner about it. "or notify him about it" retroactively ". And the unfortunate "partner" is then alone forced to "rake" and "tackle" all that "doer.m.o" that remained from this "joint" business. When working with the Chinese, you cannot relax for a minute, you need to keep a close eye on all not only the obvious, but also the "behind-the-scenes" affairs of this "partner", try to stop all his "inclinations" in time, and this is very, very difficult - the Chinese know how to hide " ends in water. " Since the Chinese always "throw" their "partners", then they calmly perceive the situation when they "throw" them and we must pay tribute to them never whine in such cases about the lost millions and even billions, they approach this philosophically, what is what they lost so much money, it is their mistake, they did not see the threats in time, they miscalculated, their "partner" turned out to be smarter and gave them a lesson, thanks to him, next time we will be smarter and will not allow this to happen, etc.
    1. van50man
      van50man 6 March 2015 10: 23
      +2
      It is necessary to be extremely careful and attentive when, during a crisis (trouble, and other troubles), suddenly, friends and partners appear! Ready ,, help ,, for ,, small service ,,. The result, most often: ,, trouble squared ,, + disappointment in their own adequacy. It’s better to be friends - at a bayonet’s distance, and to love - in a heap ,, (everything is even and death and life).
    2. Shtyn dwarf
      Shtyn dwarf 6 March 2015 10: 25
      -10
      This only applies to suckers. Russians have never been like this. And the Chinese know that if you mimic the "Russian bear" - then he can snap. So much so that it will not seem a little.
      1. Hleb
        Hleb 6 March 2015 12: 07
        +1
        and here you are mistaken, there are so many suckers in the subject)
        do not have time to minus
        1. Shtyn dwarf
          Shtyn dwarf 6 March 2015 19: 57
          0
          Yes figs with them with the Chinese, I can imagine what they’ll say about the British =))) These, unlike the Chinese, do not hold Russian people at all, therefore they can give any promise, and then break it. So, what is next? As far as we allow the Chinese to push ourselves, the more they advance.

          PS By the way, my brother has been working in China in Beijing since 2000, controls deliveries to the Russian Federation. And the company where he works is well known in the Russian Federation. And thanks to cooperation with China, I got rich. There are nuances with China, but they act on suckers who harness the topic without bothering to conduct reconnaissance, to understand who they are dealing with. Hoping apparently that all around are as good-looking as they are.
  32. Bongo
    Bongo 6 March 2015 09: 16
    +21
    No matter how indignant the Chinese are, they are slowly mastering the entire post-Soviet space, including the Russian Far East. This, of course, is not an invasion of the hungry crowds of the Chinese that scared us. They act much thinner, gaining control over key sectors of the economy. For example, in the Khabarovsk Territory, the amount of timber harvested by the Chinese is comparable in volume to Russian producers. At the same time, as they say in the article, only the Chinese work on the plots and transport on timber trucks. After them there remains a real desert (pictured), the Chinese do not care about the problems of forest reproduction of our taiga.
    1. Roshchin
      Roshchin 6 March 2015 09: 27
      +11
      It turns out that the problems of the Far East do not concern officials appointed to protect the interests of the state. After all, the destruction of forests and the distribution of mineral resources to the Chinese comes from them. First, corrupt officials, fooled by impunity, appear, followed by the Chinese with axes, poachers with rifles and nets, scammers and thieves in dense rows.
      1. candy wrapper13
        candy wrapper13 6 March 2015 15: 03
        -2
        feature of Chinese business prohibitive corruption feel (like rust eating everything negative )
    2. new communist
      new communist 6 March 2015 11: 42
      -2
      After them there remains a real desert (pictured), the Chinese do not care about the problems of forest reproduction of our taiga .----- it means that they do not plan to occupy our territory in the next 100 years, which is already good.
  33. ava09
    ava09 6 March 2015 09: 22
    +8
    Quote: koksalek
    This is how you must hate your country to do so.

    What makes you think that this is their country? If such people have "their own" country, then it is located where the stolen goods can be saved and spent.
  34. DIVAN SOLDIER
    DIVAN SOLDIER 6 March 2015 09: 26
    +2
    Who here constantly tears Russia and China allies, Kaput to America.
  35. Dragon-y
    Dragon-y 6 March 2015 09: 40
    +4
    Does Dvorkovich like walking around Moscow at night with fashion models? ..
  36. PROSREOT
    PROSREOT 6 March 2015 09: 43
    +2
    Dvorkovich pis_dyuk sort of
  37. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 6 March 2015 09: 50
    +3
    Dvorkovich, as well as the entire government gang headed by M., in the USSR would not have been allowed to steer the economy. We need professionals - techies, not "blue infantiles".
    1. candy wrapper13
      candy wrapper13 6 March 2015 15: 10
      0
      and where are they not * techies *?
      engineer level - between PTushnik and a technician of the times of the USSR crying and in the manual * fictitious managers * wassat
  38. lao_tsy
    lao_tsy 6 March 2015 09: 51
    +3
    Or maybe everything is simple? Maybe our elite, which cut off the path to the EU and America, is looking for ways to escape? Or rather roundabout way of getting into those same states and the Cote d'Azur?
  39. Balcony
    Balcony 6 March 2015 09: 56
    -6
    A provocative statement in difficult times for the country plays into the hands of only its enemies. A discussion of them only reinforces this effect.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 6 March 2015 10: 16
      +7
      That is, you want to say. What are holy people in government? They do not spare their belly. everything about the good of Russia is baked, but here we are with our discussions?
  40. enerqo62
    enerqo62 6 March 2015 10: 09
    +4
    This proves once again that the kaganate in the government is not able to cope with the current challenges, their thinking apparatus works only in the bourgeois liberal plan, they are not capable of anything else, namely the industrialization of industry, infrastructure projects, the introduction of new technologies. people like Dvorkovich are fixated on the "golden calf" buy sell and not create and enjoy the benefits of your labor.
  41. ghbvfrjd
    ghbvfrjd 6 March 2015 10: 09
    -3
    Libera is sitting and waiting for a team from behind the hill to begin sabotage in the Government of the Russian Federation. From time to time, vile attempts are made to discredit the President. However, like everything liberal (vile, deceitful, liquid to reprisal, accustomed to act from under the silence, rotten in general), the answers are deceiving. Not emotional actions (this is precisely what they are achieving), but concrete steps to hold accountable for hostile activities against the Russian Federation. Therefore, such slurred statements, more like a desire to bend to the west, show their loyalty to the enemies of Russia.
  42. Rorik
    Rorik 6 March 2015 10: 13
    -1
    I looked at the gas receipt for February - 54 rubles. Consumption standard (in the presence of centralized hot water supply for gas stoves 10.4 m³ / person per month). Those. for me 1000 m³ cost - 5400 rubles. $ 90, if for 60 rubles. and $ 180, if 30r. I do not think that gas (resource) is actually sold to the Chinese for cheaper. It would be nice for the author not to generalize. And that very much looks like one very nice statement by Zyuganov, about what we have in Russia after the owls. the authorities "not a single large science-intensive enterprise has been built." A person either does not know what he is talking about, or deliberately escalates.
  43. van50man
    van50man 6 March 2015 10: 30
    +3
    With all due respect to the Chinese, their history, their spirit and traditions, one must not forget the old Russian truths: who remembers the old - that eye is out, and who forget - both!
  44. Selynin
    Selynin 6 March 2015 10: 43
    +6
    Such a moment is interesting if the population density in the Russian border regions with China was at least half the same as in China we would have so many problems with China about which we are not customary to speak from high tribunes.
    Why is there no natural population growth in the Far East and eastern Siberia?
    If the population growth at the end of the XNUMXth century was the same as at the beginning, would we have such a problem as the development and extraction of minerals by foreign companies? Or an increase in the number of settlements with Chinese (or mainly Chinese) population in Russia !?
    How is it that the Russian and indigenous people of Siberia and the Far East are declining, while the Chinese are growing?
    What measures or figures of the Soviet and Russian government contribute to this ???
    1. Hleb
      Hleb 6 March 2015 11: 05
      -4
      If the population growth at the end of the XNUMXth century was the same as at the beginning, would we have such a problem as the development and extraction of minerals by foreign companies?
      is there a way to link population growth and mining? if you need to drill a water well in the garden and you don't have a drill, a drilling machine, no technology, no money, no strength ... what does the birth rate in your family and How many children do you have?
      1. Basarev
        Basarev 6 March 2015 13: 17
        +2
        The initial misfortune of Russia, the source of all misfortunes, is the absurd decision of Vladimir the Red Sun to divide Russia between 12 of his sons. It is from here that the fragmentation of Russia into dozens of the smallest and constantly warring principalities begins. That is why the Tatar-Mongols managed to enslave Russia so easily. While all other countries were in the stage of initial accumulation of capital - in our country this capital was a tribute to the Horde. After almost three hundred years, the Tatar-Mongols left, leaving behind a beggarly country, which the well-fed and luxurious Europe looked at from the west, already preparing to jump into the New World. But it was enough for Vladimir to only appoint Yaroslav as the only successor - and everything would be normal. Russia would have remained unified and therefore could have repelled the Mongol strike in the borderland, preventing enemies from entering the interior of the country. The population would be much larger - because there would have been no numerous victims of princely strife and losses from the Mongol strike would have been an order of magnitude smaller. Russia would be able to accumulate capital commensurate with European and therefore the standard of living would be equal or even greater (because in Russia there were no feudal bloodsuckers erecting huge castles around impoverished villages!) Which means that Westernized ideas in Russia would be unpopular, because their only an asset both then and now - an exceptionally high standard of living in the west.
        1. Hleb
          Hleb 6 March 2015 14: 06
          -2
          what did you write here? do you see a quote?
          If the population growth at the end of the XNUMXth century was the same as at the beginning, would we have such a problem as the development and extraction of minerals by foreign companies?

          read this:
          In April 2013, OJSC Yamal LNG, following a tender, signed an agreement with the consortium Technip (France) and JGC Corp. (Japan) for the design, supply of equipment, materials and components, construction and commissioning (EPC in a row) of a complex for the preparation and liquefaction of natural gas on the basis of the South Tambeyskoye field.
          In September 2013, OJSC Yamal LNG entered into a contract with German Siemens for the supply of key elements of a thermal power plant, which will supply Yamal LNG with electricity and heat. Siemens is responsible for the manufacture, testing, delivery, installation and commissioning of eight gas turbines and other equipment.
          In October 2013, Yamgaz SNC, a joint venture between Technip and JGC, selected the American General Electric as the supplier of the main turbocompressor equipment for the three lines of the LNG plant.
          In January 2014, Yamgaz SNC signed an agreement with French Vinci for the construction of four 160 cubic meters LNG storage facilities. meters each.
          In January 2014, Yamgaz SNC signed a contract with Japanese Yokogawa Electric for the supply of integrated control and safety systems (ICSS) for the Yamal LNG project.
          In July 2014, Yamgaz SNC signed a contract with the Chinese Offshore Oil Engineering Co. (COOEC) for the manufacture of key gas liquefaction equipment worth $ 1,623 billion.
          The same American Air Products & Chemicals will supply three cryogenic heat exchangers that will be used in gas liquefaction processes using mixed pre-cooling refrigerant. In October 2014, Yamgaz SNC signed a contract with The Philippine The Atlantic Gulf & Pacific Company (AG&P) for the supply of technology modules for Yamal LNG.


          and tell me where does the Red Sun come from? And the population of Russia? In France, the people are bigger? The growth is huge? In Japan, the people are bigger? In the Philippines? In Sweden? Germany? Where do we buy machinery and equipment? Do you know that in the days of the USSR we They bought the gas pipeline abroad because we ourselves could not produce them, and only today we mastered these technologies. In the USSR, too, did not suit the birth rate? The people were not united? Was there not enough people? The growth is negative?
          bullshit here, not understanding anything about it
        2. bombardir
          bombardir 6 March 2015 14: 22
          +1
          Quote: Basarev
          The initial misfortune of Russia, the source of all misfortunes, is the absurd decision of Vladimir the Red Sun to divide Russia between 12 of his sons.
          Gosha...
          For 1000 years, there was one capable of independent decision-making, and even that, a bad person, made the wrong decision ...

          But to think with your own head, to understand Russia with your mind - is it not fate?
  45. TROG
    TROG 6 March 2015 11: 19
    -9
    Stop, stop.
    What kind of negative reviews? Swamps or liberals?
    Putin’s team works for the good of the homeland.
    And here you snot dismissed.
    You'd better comment on the previous articles of "Hurray-patriots".
  46. new communist
    new communist 6 March 2015 11: 38
    0
    Firstly, the Chinese are invited to start up on already developed deposits. Almost no one does this in the world. A potential investor is usually first invited to invest in geological exploration, the creation of infrastructure and other things. ----------------- The author, speaking about the economy, still lives on the concepts of socialism. The author, come to your senses, we live in the era of OLIGARCHIC capitalism. Now there is no longer everything around the people all around MY !!! All oil has long been, like all resources, owned by Sechin, Alikperov, Bogdanov. She is only in Russia and that’s all. So what do we care who will be enriched. Only taxes to the budget are handed over to us for oil, and who cares who pays Alekperov or a Chinese businessman, Moreover, the Chinese will pay more carefully. Then, if the Chinese produce oil, we don’t have a headache to whom to sell it. A very sensible decision and it strengthens friendship.
  47. Dejavu
    Dejavu 6 March 2015 11: 41
    -6
    What is the enemy stuffing? Somewhere a crow croaked, already lit here "Russiya FSE leaked to the Chinese !! 11! 1" Calm down please, dear. Nobody is going to give to anyone. If the Chinese are allowed as partners, it is certainly for something, and not just like that. About controlling stakes, it's generally lol. Who came up with this nonsense. NOBODY will ever give controlling stakes to uncles for hello. I read this nonsense and am amazed at how our people are still doing this.
    1. Hleb
      Hleb 6 March 2015 12: 00
      0
      moreover, these people do not even approximately understand anything in these matters.
      some kats suggest surrendering, someone writes about how the Chinese are negotiating, but they don’t even know how Miller is negotiating
  48. 7 poplar
    7 poplar 6 March 2015 12: 19
    -1
    I don’t trust Dvorkovich .... not from our village ...
  49. yumb
    yumb 6 March 2015 12: 21
    +1
    Drive the liberals with a filthy broom.
  50. valentina-makanalina
    valentina-makanalina 6 March 2015 12: 58
    +6
    Well, what kind of nature do we have?
    It is only necessary to solve a minor issue with someone, so immediately he is a brother, comrade, colleague, partner ...
    We begin to hug him, reward him with "Brezhnev's kiss aspirated", pat him on the back and trustingly "clap his ears."
    And where are they now brother Mao and Kim Il Sung, comrade Honecker and Ceausescu, friend Bush and Kohl, etc.
    You can’t sell your country for beautiful words and promises. All warm relations quickly end as soon as it becomes unprofitable for brothers, comrades, colleagues and partners.
    Transactions are needed, interaction too, but ... Only to the state border. On our territory we are masters and we should not let anyone into it. At the border, as they say, - Receive, Sign, All the best.