The analytical program "However," with Mikhail Leontyev, 22 September 2011

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Today Palestine is filing with the UN an application for international recognition of its state - a state without definite boundaries, without a single territory at all, and, by and large, without objective possibilities to independently provide for its existence.

That is, of course, for Israel the Palestinian “nano-state” is a headache. But this "nanobol" is nothing compared to the big headache, without which this state would never have come into being. The fact is that so far small but proud Israel was in its area the coolest kid behind the back of a large overseas brother-in-law. In short, he was a regional superpower.

The Zionist state was born in the 1947 year only because of the direct political, and then military support of Stalin, who saw in Israel a springboard of Soviet influence. This influence quickly faded away, supplanted by the United States. From now on, to this day, the United States is a privileged ally, sponsor and guarantor of the existence of the State of Israel in an uncomfortable geopolitical environment.

During the Cold War, Israel was desperately needed. After the collapse of the USSR, the Americans' fulfillment of their “sacred obligations” to Israel did not constitute a big problem, although it steadily undermined the image of the United States in the Islamic world. And now, when the Bush "crusade" against international terrorism, in contrast, by the way, to the global crisis, has come to naught, the situation has changed.

"The moral obligations of the United States should not be a cover for the Israeli government, which turns Israel into a strategic burden," writes Anthony Cordesman, an influential US analyst specializing in the Middle East.

With the presidency of Barack Hussein Obama, who announced a turnaround in relations with the Islamic world, the indestructible US-Israeli alliance has cracked. His statements recognizing the 1967 Green Line of the year as the basis for defining the borders of Israel and Palestine caused a hysterical reaction from the Netanyahu government. And the active support of "democratization" in neighboring Arab countries causes Israel to have very specific concerns.

Still would! Arab democracy certainly does not bode well for Israel. Misfortune never comes alone. Here Turkey is the pillar of NATO’s southern flank, Israel’s many-year closest military ally. Well, did Recep Erdogan's Islamic Party come to power? For a long time it seemed that this is such a "specially trained" Islamic party, and Erdogan - an American Islamist dummy. How can an Islamist be an ally of Israel? No way!

Due to circumstances beyond its control, now Turkey has found itself in a position, in fact, the only regional superpower. First, the collapse of the Union and the Soviet bloc left it the dominant force in the Black Sea. The defeat and collapse of Iraq, and then the "Arab Spring", destroying one after another all significant players, and finally the capital problems of Greece, its eternal opponent in Europe, finally cleared the field for Turkish ambitions in the region.

And in such a situation, when dreams of "Ottoman revenge" come true before the eyes, so that the Turks do not use such a card ?! It is believed that Turkey intentionally provoked an Israeli attack on "flotilla freedom. ”An iron pretext to break relations. Today Erdogan interrupts military cooperation with Israel, promises patronage to the premature offspring of Arab democratization, sends a fleet to the Mediterranean Sea, directly threatening Israel. Poor little Israel rushes about in search of allies - Armenia, Cyprus. A weak replacement for a big fraternal.

As Tzipi Livni, head of the opposition and former Israeli foreign minister, stated, "Ankara is well aware that the United States no longer considers Israel a strategic partner and treat it as a burden that cannot be parted. Israel may lose the opportunity to be a Jewish democratic state" - added Livni.

Israel will not be able to become an Arab democratic state with all its desire - such states exist only in the vigorous imagination of Mrs. Clinton. The United States is not allowed to be a non-democratic Jewish state: this will completely spoil their image in the region. In fact, the state of Israel is only allowed to be the United States. Israel does not know how to live differently in its region. So if for some reason the United States cannot give such permission, it will be necessary to look for another region.
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  1. +6
    22 September 2011 17: 38
    Something unknown suggests that either Turkey will be drawn into a regional conflict or will see "human rights violations." In general, the Turks can safely bend Greece, Cyprus, Syria, part of Iraq. And again become the Ottoman Empire.
    1. +1
      22 September 2011 17: 49
      Stalin, who saw Israel as a springboard for Soviet influence.

      According to legend, it was like the other way around, when the IVS signed a decree on the formation of Israel, he sighed and said: "Well, all the peace here will definitely not be here now."
      1. 0
        22 September 2011 21: 29
        SAGE was however!
      2. -1
        22 September 2011 21: 32
        SAGE was however!
      3. -1
        22 September 2011 21: 32
        SAGE was however!
      4. zczczc
        0
        23 September 2011 03: 18
        Stalin lobbying for the creation of Israel killed several birds with one stone:
        1. There is room for Jews to move from the USSR, the Socialist Camp, and even Europe and the whole world — Jewish self-identification and localization;
        2. There is something to restrain the growth of Arab countries. An ideal irritant in the center of the Arab world;
        3. A small but significant constraint on the growth of the United States - the freeloader needs to be fed, watered, armed and protected from the attacks of "Arab savages".

        What about the bridgehead of Soviet influence - Stalin was anyone, but not an idiot. Such formulations could only be a cover for those who are used to acting on the contrary, i.e. bait.
  2. Motherland
    0
    22 September 2011 19: 14
    Yes. A new "bloody dictator" has been identified, I think Greece will soon be thrown out
  3. Splin
    +1
    22 September 2011 19: 41
    On the central channel, and even in such a serious program "Vremya" the words "There is an opinion" cannot be uttered without responsibility. And Leontyev has already done this more than once. Whose opinion is this, I'm interested?
    1. zczczc
      -1
      23 September 2011 03: 20
      Splin, this is not an opinion - this is a fact. The fact is undeniable and known for a long time.
      Opinion is when there may be discrepancies. And what are the options here?
  4. atheist
    0
    22 September 2011 21: 20
    Turks can approach our borders from the south, it is unlikely that we will defend Armenia (everything is already with us), or from the west through the Crimea
    1. Marat
      +3
      22 September 2011 23: 41
      Armenia is a member of the CSTO and we will all defend it if necessary
      And it is important that any opponent does not doubt it
      Stop losing territories, people, and republics
      1. +3
        23 September 2011 10: 13
        I support Marat
  5. -2
    23 September 2011 00: 13
    yeah, if the amers abandon the Jews, then the Arabs will tear their hot water bottle as an ace - and no one will help!
  6. 0
    23 September 2011 00: 54
    Surrendered ally Pindos. Although, as Churchill said, there are no friends, there are interests (they have it in the West - it is the Slavs who start war in brotherly love). Now they are not interesting - and they were handed over - and the Palestinian state is only the beginning. Yes, a difficult situation, it’s time for Jews to bring down Israel from old memory
  7. zczczc
    0
    23 September 2011 03: 12
    I liked the movie clippings. In the case, what did he say new? This is already known. It was still known in the 80s, it just got to the point now.
  8. 916-th
    0
    23 September 2011 08: 07
    Can Russia have its interest in the changing situation around Israel? After all, there are many immigrants from the former Union.
    1. zczczc
      0
      24 September 2011 14: 54
      916-th, maybe - not to let either side disappear. The mutual weakening of the Arab and Jewish worlds is Russia's interest.

      True friendship with the Arab world will not be possible very soon - only with the rejection of Islam and Christianity on both sides.
  9. -2
    23 September 2011 11: 56
    Leontiev is banal, Israel has been buried for 60 years, all and sundry.
    By the way, Mr. Leontyev, for your information - Israel "was born" in 1948, and not as you say here. Learn materiel!
    1. 0
      23 September 2011 18: 34
      I clarify: the State of Israel was proclaimed on May 14, 1948 (on June 5, 5708) on the basis of the resolution of the UN General Assembly (UNGA), adopted on November 181, 29 (see "The UN Plan for the Partition of Palestine").
      1. LESHA pancake
        0
        24 September 2011 14: 59
        THE JEWS DO NOT HAVE ANYWAY HOW TO RECOGNIZE THE PALESTINIAN STATE ALSO ANOTHERLY THE ENDLESS WAR.
        1. -2
          24 September 2011 15: 44
          Recognize and will be peace? Do not make me laugh.
          1. LESHA pancake
            0
            24 September 2011 15: 51
            I DO NOT SAY THAT PEACE. BUT ALTERNATIVE WAR IS ALWAYS THERE.
          2. LESHA pancake
            0
            24 September 2011 15: 52
            I DO NOT SAY THAT PEACE. BUT ALTERNATIVE WAR IS ALWAYS THERE.LYOKHA pancake,
          3. LESHA pancake
            0
            24 September 2011 15: 52
            I DO NOT SAY THAT PEACE. BUT ALTERNATIVE WAR IS ALWAYS THERE.LYOKHA pancake,
    2. LESHA pancake
      -1
      24 September 2011 15: 56
      LOOK AT THE ROOT AND NOT AT THE MATCH.
      1. -2
        24 September 2011 16: 02
        But besides the slogans and uppercase letters have something to say?
        1. LESHA pancake
          0
          24 September 2011 16: 05
          SPECIFIC PEOPLE FIGHT AND DIE, NOT NUMBERS AND LETTERS.
      2. LESHA pancake
        0
        24 September 2011 16: 16
        NOTHING IS ETERNAL UNDER THE MOON .
        1. -2
          24 September 2011 16: 21
          Workers of all countries unite.
  10. atheist
    0
    25 September 2011 00: 02
    glory or death!