Powder barrel of the national question

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For centuries, the national question has been and is especially crucial for the definition of such concepts as the state and the population. It is the impersonal term “population” that often does not allow a reasonable approach to questions about who we are. Even 25-30 years ago, the population of our country for the most part often did not think about the question of what ethnic group it belongs to. The phrase "Citizen of the USSR" could overshadow any nationality. Today, literally everyone is trying to determine for themselves the version of their own identity, thanks to which they can position themselves on the external arena.

Let us approach the issue of considering national identity with historical points of view. If today one wonders about who the Russians are, then not everyone can give a clear and unambiguous answer. Is Russian the one who lives on the territory of modern Russia? No. Is Russian the one for whom Russian is the main language of communication? Also wrong. Then, perhaps, Russian is a person whose ancestors lived in Russia until 1940 (as in one of the former USSR countries)? Also complete nonsense. So who is Russian?

Turning to our own history, we can say that the Russians are not even a separate nation. This is a kind of kaleidoscope, reflecting a colorful picture, which includes details of various shapes and colors. One cannot speak of our nation as something monolithic. Even when they were born, Russians, according to one version, are a Finno-Ugric tribe that became titular when the new state was born. According to another version, the representatives of the tribe living along the coast of the Ros River were originally called Russians. It turns out that the initial stage of the emergence of our ethnic group is a mystery, according to which it is not clear whether we are more Slavs or Varangians. We will not exaggerate an early historical topic, since it does not even seem obvious to historians, but try to figure out how important it is to classify oneself as a Russian ethnic group today.

Historical examples show us very strange for today's understanding of the national essence of the situation. At different stages of its development, our country followed the path of all-consuming assimilation. Well, tell me, would someone talk about non-Russianness, for example, Bagration or Catherine II. You can begin to fall into lengthy arguments about the national identity of these people, but the story itself put everything in its place. To a normal person today, in principle, it does not matter that Bagration is Georgian, and Catherine in general, Sofia Augustus Frederick, is from Prussia. The main thing is not at all. They deserve the title to be Russian in their ministry. Today we remember those glorious deeds that these and many other people glorified Russia.

Therefore, when they talk about what nationality this or that person lives in our country, this is the shortest way to the emergence of endless and senseless strife. The national question during its existence in itself has grown into thorns, but on this topic, many people also try to play in their own interests.

Today in Russia there are quite a few organizations that are trying to find out the ethnicity of a person. Most often, such clarifications fall into the plane of accusations of all those whom these people regard as non-Russian. In our country, the Jews, the Germans, the Chukchi remain forever guilty ... At the same time, the people who put these stigmas do not seem to be aware of the fact that they are also mixed in their blood ... The principle by which we sometimes trying to determine the national identity of the person. For example, if a person was born and lived all his life in Moscow, while his parents were also born and lived all their lives in Moscow, but the older generation - someone came to the capital from Belarus, someone decided to stay after military service, being originally from Kazakhstan. Can you call this person Russian? If we all try to pass through a meaningless ethnic sieve, the “box” with the Russians will be empty. Well, even if you burst, there are no people in our country who have their ancestry from the very Slavic or Finno-Ugric tribes, which later were not mixed by other nations.

In such a situation, the national policy of our state needs serious revision. A big plus for maintaining mutual trust and respect is the strategy according to which it was decided to exclude the notorious “nationality” column from the passport.

I remember how quite funny situations arose in Soviet times when a person named Azat Marabyan or Solomon Breyfus could have written “Russian” in his passport. However, by and large, it did not bother anyone. Well, Russian and Russian ...

Today, many are trying to catch the fish in the murky waters of nationalism. Someone under the slogan "Russia is for Russians!" Is trying to "clean" our country from people of other nationalities. Someone declares that in Russian - power. But let me see if these statements do not look like an exact repetition of all currently known nationalist slogans. We all remember very well what the similar appeals brought about (only with an emphasis on a certain Aryan nation) in Germany in the 30-40 of the 20-th century.

Even more dead-end can be considered the issue of titular nations. If they say that the titular nation in our country are Russians, then how should the residents of, for example, the North Caucasian republics react. I do not want my nation to make me in the eyes of other people a kind of imperial element that sleeps and sees itself at the head of the whole system built. I think that the issue of the titular nation disappears when a Russian homeless person is put near the Kursk railway station or a Tatar professor, a Jewish engineer or a Buryat alcoholic. A nation will not make a person a person, if its element is a narco-grate or a basement of a high-rise building. A nation is so ephemeral education that all the arguments about the superiority of one ethnic group over another are truly empty. The Chechen is not better than the Russian, the Bashkirs are not worse than the Udmurt - this is already time to realize those who still aim at the target of the national question.

The main thing is that no national identity gives the right to feel superior to others. Our people at all times were distinguished by the fact that they could unite with other nations and thus develop their culture, religion, and philosophy. No artificially created boundaries could ever prevent him from doing so. Let us hope that even now the main function of the Russian people - to unite - will remain the defining element of our identity.
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  1. Muhabi
    0
    17 September 2011 16: 32
    DON'T IN RUSSIA
  2. Muhabi
    +4
    17 September 2011 16: 42
    Until a law is in force in Russia, before which everyone will be equal, the national question will be raised more and more every year. Recent events with the Dagestan fighter without rules have shown us this.
    1. Bogatir
      -2
      17 September 2011 17: 26
      Quote: MUHABOi
      Until a law works in Russia, before which everyone will be equal

      The question is, your answer to which will be very intelligible.
      - In the Russian Federation (not Russia - so radically more correct) is it possible to develop national languages ​​in ethnic territories, at least - as regional use?
      Second:
      - And why?
      1. +7
        17 September 2011 23: 59
        Maybe. They are already developing - be healthy! They haven't studied Russian for a long time. Why? But because the Russians were kicked out. And they proclaimed themselves, the descendants of sheep-herders and savage nomads, "superior people."
    2. Bogatir
      -3
      17 September 2011 17: 36
      Quote: MUHABOi
      Recent events with the Dagestan fighter without rules have shown us this.

      - This is the story where a boxer warmed one who clung to a girl and, according to eyewitnesses, "behaved bullishly"?
      - Well then what can we talk about? Chauvinism is a dangerous business in a multinational motley and motley country.
      1. slan
        +1
        17 September 2011 22: 03
        Quote: Bogatir
        - This is the story where a boxer warmed one who clung to a girl and, according to eyewitnesses, "behaved bullishly"?
        - Well then what can we talk about? Chauvinism is a dangerous business in a multinational motley and motley country.

        It’s you yourself leading a dialogue with yourself and answering your own question with a question?)))
        In printed texts, each conversation replica usually begins on a new line. In this case, quotation marks are not used, a dash is placed before each replica, and after it is the necessary punctuation mark.

        And in general, you write as if with an electronic translator. "behaved bykovo" especially delivered)) write more.
        Quote: Bogatir
        The question is your answer to will be very intelligible.
        - In the Russian Federation (not Russia - so radically more correct) possible development of national languages in ethnic territories, at least - as regional use?
        Second:
        - And why?

        How is this to be understood?))) Something you never pull on a Ukrainian, or was it just that the evening was so successful that not only the language is braided?))
        Second:
        -Because of that!
      2. 0
        18 September 2011 00: 04
        As far as I know, all the "bullishness" was in the toy car. You know, they are radio-controlled. And the boxer could just gently "knock out", and not sweep the guy for a couple of meters of free flight. So your example is unfortunate.
        And your mistakes are not entirely clear. It is necessary to write "seaminism", "variegated". Besides, how to understand: "The question, your answer to which will be very intelligible"?
    3. senya
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      17 September 2011 21: 08
      Where did you see the law? .... CC? ...
  3. Motherland
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    17 September 2011 17: 45
    It’s just preparation for interethnic wars, we have a separation of territories that not only have resources but also have a strategic role to attack in these territories, because obviously there will be a base or NATO or the USA and commonplace for some former allies of the Russian Federation, we have already been surrounded on all sides so if it doesn’t come out of victory, they’ll go to take
  4. +11
    17 September 2011 18: 12
    Rogozin said: "people from the Caucasian republics are demonstratively violating the Russian cultural standard." Each of us can treat the statements of Dmitry Rogozin in whatever way he wants. But he publicly uttered what many citizens of Russia think about themselves. Rogozin quite correctly formulated the most painful questions that face our society today. ... If a problem worries society, then it should be talked about honestly and openly. All other options are a position - this is an ostrich with its head in the sand. (Gaz.MK No. 38 for September 14-21, 2011).
    1. Mesniy
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      17 September 2011 19: 43
      That's right! And if you don’t put things in order, the problems will increase like a snowball. And we are trying to hush up all this and let it go on the brakes. This is the main mistake.
    2. Bogatir
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      17 September 2011 22: 24
      Quote: AleksUkr
      Rogozin said: "people from the Caucasian republics are demonstratively violating the Russian cultural standard."

      - Well, he is.
      1. 0
        18 September 2011 00: 06
        Your dictum did not understand.
        And what, do not break? I came across it myself.
  5. RUSICH
    +5
    17 September 2011 19: 44
    I completely agree with Rogozin on this issue and not only.
    Here is mine a strong politician who even speaks with NATO on equal terms.
    We should have this Dmitry in place of our Mitka plush.
    1. Bogatir
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      17 September 2011 22: 26
      Quote: Rusich
      I completely agree with Rogozin on this issue and not only. Here I think a strong politician who even with NATO on equal footing

      - From play out with chauvinism. Nothing teaches you.
      1. 0
        18 September 2011 00: 08
        Where is "chauvenism" here? This is just a statement of fact. If you want to see / feel chauvinism, go to the Caucasus. Or to Kazakhstan.
  6. senya
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    17 September 2011 20: 52
    You take your Mitka ... take the motorcycle from him ... on which he rides ... and put him on a cart ... and into the village .... in the Tver region.
    1. +1
      17 September 2011 21: 20
      In the Tver region for what? We are not animals in the end
      1. senya
        0
        17 September 2011 21: 30
        In the Tver region many villages ... and roads are rubbish .... villages are abandoned ... if you know I’ll guess .... it’s good there ... and Rogozin ... so .... rubbish is a man ... like Medvedev and Putin .. .shniki ...
  7. zczczc
    +1
    17 September 2011 22: 24
    In our empire, you see, they liked to joke - pay attention to how the Jews are depicted: no other people are depicted on top of others on the map.
  8. 0
    18 September 2011 09: 37
    We do not have an internal national policy! The President will do anything to photograph, push gadgets, but in national politics he is ZERO!
  9. +1
    18 September 2011 09: 39
    We do not have an internal national policy! The President will do anything to photograph, push gadgets, but in national politics he is ZERO!
  10. SAVA555.IVANOV
    -1
    18 September 2011 09: 56
    Can you take an example from the USA? It doesn’t show that the Indians would be bullied or the Negroes and more than one state doesn’t think of secession, in any case no one doubts the integrity of the country, and the police do not take bribes en masse to kill Anglo-Americans
    1. slan
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      18 September 2011 10: 29
      They compared the penis to the finger. In the United States, blacks are bought off with money, which is simply printed in the right amount. And I would not say that they behave like bunnies there. Indians?)) So the Chukchi also do not "bull". About the separation of the states, also a bunch in a puddle. How do you imagine that? What are the general reasons for separatism there?
      Just always put the United States as an example?
      1. ballian
        +1
        18 September 2011 13: 05
        Well, the separatist sentiment in Texas is actually quite strong in the US - here is the Texas separatist site
        http://www.texasnationalist.com/
        This state has a special history, 9 years was an independent state.
        His current governor, Rick Perry, even threatened Washington with the departure of Texas from the United States.
        http://www.utro.ru/articles/2009/04/16/810089.shtml
        In the USA, sociology is very developed - according to the last social. 31 survey percent of Texas residents are firmly convinced that the state has the right to leave the United States to form an independent state, if it is the will of the citizens of Texas,
        If the issue of state independence were put to a referendum, then only 18 percent of the citizens would vote for the disconnection of Texas, and 75 percent would vote against the exit. 7 percent of respondents have not yet been determined.
        http://24.ua/news/show/id/81692.htm
        .
        In addition to Texas, there are quite serious separatist movements and parties in the 5 states (google to help you)
        .
        The motives of the separatists there are the same as elsewhere.,
        by the way, the states in the USA are not just sliced ​​cards on the line - each state has its own special history of creation and internal life - the states were created for them mainly "from below" - and not how we drew lines on the map in the Kremlin, and are full-fledged federal entities ...
        .
        1. slan
          0
          18 September 2011 13: 28
          Quote: ballian
          not like we in the Kremlin drew lines on a map

          So how is it in your Kremlin?
          Eccentric))) Go to the league for total reforms (s)
          And if 31% of housewives say they would like to be men, are they trances?))
          Or is it still more correct to take an example from Israel, where are the same authorities as in the United States, but the "separatists" are real?

          ps moderators, and why "s-e-k-s" and many other literary words are in your list of unacceptable? You should at least publish a list of words that cause unpleasant associations for you, otherwise it’s boring to guess for a long time what is wrong, not to mention retyping.
          1. ballian
            0
            18 September 2011 13: 55
            I did not understand your comment at all:)))) - there the separatists are real - do not hesitate as soon as there are not 18%, but 51% then the Republic of Texas will be the same in other states.
            In the same Canada, there was a referendum on the independence of Quebec - the separatists lacked less than 1% for the victory of the separatists (!) Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Quebec Independence Referendum_XX1995)
            Or do you think separatists are those who run with AK - 47 and detonate bombs? :)))
            If you can’t google it, I’ll help you
            http://www.memoid.ru/node/Separatizm_v_SSHA_i_perspektiva_raspada_strany
            (there are also full working links at the bottom of the text - enlighten)
            PS In the United States, there has already been a whole civil war between federalists and separatists - and you are talking about some "housewives"
            1. ballian
              0
              18 September 2011 14: 31
              To make it clearer - the separatists there are not "housewives in the kitchens" - but organized movements and parties. As the same separatist organization "Republic of Texas", including holding meetings and demonstrations about their demands http://top.rbc.ru/society/06/03/2011/554657.shtml
              1. slan
                0
                18 September 2011 15: 24
                Quote: ballian
                As the same separatist organization "Republic of Texas", including holding meetings and demonstrations about their demands

                So you spend)) And gays do not spend?)
                I agree with you - in the USA there is a rich pluralism of opinions for the time being. But only if there suddenly appears a party openly propagating that it is impossible to bomb civilians in other states only on the basis that the local government is not happy with the Americans, how long will such a party last? Again, it is not clear what is this?
              2. 0
                18 September 2011 22: 41
                "housewives in kitchens" in Texas will shoot your ears from a hundred meters from a 19th century hard drive ...
            2. slan
              0
              18 September 2011 14: 49
              You are here, dear, already judging by the epaulettes))
              What is the difference? I think it will be difficult to explain to you (
              When grandma has eggs, she will be grandfather. When in South Butovo there will be 51% then there will be the South Coast.
              But in Quebec, just separatism has serious foundations; the differences in culture and ethnic composition of the population are serious.
              There are not so many native Texans and not so radical ones, the cultural difference from other Anglo-Saxons is minimal, their interests are also largely common. Yes, some are dissatisfied with the Jewish government of the United States and would like to resolve this issue with the help of independence, but in general there are no more tendencies towards independence than in our Primorye. Yes, many are many who are ready to say, especially for the right-hand drive .. Also in Texas, no one is really ready for some kind of independence, it is not clear what to give up at least with a percentage of tax increase. Compare with the Caucasus like that ..
              I don’t know why I’m trying to explain all this to you? Sorry, but I feel that it is not much easier to convey this to you than to a "simple Texas girl" to Bush junior (google it yourself)))
              The phrase about "a whole civil war between federalists and separatists" delivers no less "bushisms"))) You are exactly the same level of intelligence, congratulations.
              1. ballian
                0
                18 September 2011 15: 44
                Xy :) but why do you think that the Texans have any complaints about the Jews :))
                Texas is the richest oil-producing state that "feeds" the USA with its taxes, and has a rather separate history and, one might say, culture. About the indigenous Texans, and you noticed, why suddenly the rest will not start to consider themselves indigenous over time? Are you an expert on the mentality of Texans? By the way, are you "literate" at least in the course that the white Anglo-Saxons in Texas are now less than half (American statistics)? Has the proportion of Hispanics in the southwestern states of the United States almost equaled the Anlo - Saxons? (in your opinion, the basis for separatism)?
                I give you figures and facts - and you tell me - "no one is really ready", and give your unfounded statements about Primorye - nuka tsiferki "Primorye".
                You cannot do anything smarter than to find fault with vocabulary — yes, there was a civil war between the separatist Americans and the federalists — it wasn’t at once at your head.
                PS My epaulettes give me pleasure - the audience on this site is "for our" and against "enemies" +, the rest is "-" for more intelligence 80% do not have - the last post about "Panfilov" gave me a lot.
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                1. slan
                  0
                  18 September 2011 16: 23
                  Quote: ballian
                  Nuka tsiferki let's.

                  Yeah)) Thank you, you have already touched me enough)
                  However, judging by the active googling and another sign, it’s just that you were actively digging the Internet, simultaneously discovering a lot of interesting things, for example, the civil war in the USA))) I am glad that I could at least help your grief))
                  Thank you for the positive emotions that you give with your spontaneity)
                  1. ballian
                    0
                    18 September 2011 16: 48
                    Okay, don't make excuses, I'm glad that you learned from me about the civil war - I hope you received an answer to your naive question Today, 10:29 am "What are the reasons for separatism there?" For you really to find out you had to "dig", I know perfectly well what is where.
                    1. slan
                      0
                      18 September 2011 16: 55
                      ))) Sorry, but you did not study at a Ukrainian school? That would explain a lot.
                      Quote: ballian
                      For you really to find out it was necessary to "dig", I know perfectly well what is where.

                      Masterpiece) Exactly, proud Ukrainian)) Well, you're talking about the Ryazan principality, Pugachev, etc. haven’t read yet, that’s where separatism was))
        2. 0
          18 September 2011 22: 39
          so this is where the Americans threw the national guard in the spring ...
    2. 0
      18 September 2011 22: 37
      The Indians get more than our bureaucrats, there are casinos on their lands and they really get paid, it’s only in sigal films that they are unfortunate chmyrs ...
  11. slan
    0
    18 September 2011 15: 37
    Survived))) Russophobes in all seriousness prove to the Russians that the United States has a tendency to the collapse of a single state and maintain stability only thanks to the effective struggle of the American special services with the separatists, which the Russian Federation needs to learn from them)) WTF?
    No, well, I do not mind of course)
  12. slan
    0
    18 September 2011 16: 41
    ballian
    Nevertheless, I sincerely would like to help you more)
    Do you seriously think that the Latins came to the United States to separate from the United States?)))
    So, google all the same about modern supporters of confederation, with whom you started for health, and finished for peace)) Then you wanted them to breed from 18% to 51, then suddenly decided to return the south of the USA to Mexico)) And yes , they are largely anti-Semites.
    Google about Quebec, what infuriates the local French, historically compactly living, the rest of Canada.
    Due to what the American economy is booming, don’t read it better, it can squeeze out the rest of the information from your cranium. Continue to consider their raw materials economy)) Again, I do not mind.
    Why the rest do not begin to consider themselves indigenous, too, do not boot))
    It is a pity you can’t add you as a friend here)) I would be happy to enjoy your posts further.
    1. ballian
      0
      18 September 2011 17: 15
      The share of the Texas economy in the US economy exceeds its share in the US population by one and a half times, or do you say that the Texas oil industry has nothing to do with it?
      Yes, Latinos did not come there to separate (although this could potentially be a matter of time)
      It is precisely a part of the white people who stand for separation — the white indigenous Texans — well, then calculate what percentage of the whites are for separation — and these 18% will immediately double in size — the real separatist sentiments among the native white Texans are much larger than these 18%.
      1. slan
        0
        18 September 2011 17: 28
        More?
        How will 18% double and how much will it be if I calculate the percentage of whites for separation? I'm afraid I will not master this math for you ((
        All I understand is that among the white minority, according to your information, there are more than 18% who want to secede, and how many among the minorities are this percentage, and among country music lovers? And how much do they want to separate? Please measure in numbers, I believe in your genius this time too.
  13. SAVA555.IVANOV
    +1
    18 September 2011 17: 34
    THE RUSSIANS AND THEIR PARTICIPANTS DON'T FIGHT FOR YOUR foreheads, WE WOULD LIKE IT WOULD BE PLAYED BECAUSE WE Dictate HOW TO LIVE, THE SIX 667BDRM IS ALREADY WAITED FOR US DIRECT AGGRESSION. Now we have to put things in order DOMESTIC WHICH CAN NOT ESTABLISH POLICE MILITSIYA- they will turn their responsibilities in business and do not care about them absolute defenselessness of ordinary citizens, are they fused with all sorts of Diaspora strangled instead of the country, thousands of times ROGOZIN RIGHTS AND ONLY stupid people can disturb it STATEMENT ON THIS CONCEPT