Japanese Prime Minister rethinks World War II

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A session of parliament has opened in Japan, at which, among other things, the question of how to celebrate the 70th anniversary of the end of World War II will be discussed. Независимая газета.

Japanese Prime Minister rethinks World War II


The current prime minister, Shinzo Abe, does not want to be guided by the language that his predecessor used on the 50th anniversary of Japan's defeat. An apology to the victims of the aggression alone would look inappropriate against the backdrop of Abe's ambitious plans to use the army in hostilities outside the country.

“Instead of using the language that we have repeated, I want to publish a statement explaining how the government is considering this issue,” Abe said on TV.

In August 1995, then-premier Tomiichi Murayama said that "Japan, by ruling colonies and committing aggression, has caused enormous damage and suffering to the peoples of Asia and other countries."

Opening the veil of his plans, Abe made it clear that his statement will contain 3 main points: "repentance for military aggression, an indication that Japan has followed a democratic path over the past 70 years and the government's plans aimed at promoting prosperity in the world and the region ".

Russian expert on the Far East Viktor Pavlyatenko in an interview with NG said: “After Murayama, other prime ministers repeated word for word, a hieroglyph in a hieroglyph, his wording. Abe, this approach is not good. He is leading the way to turn Japan into an important military and political force in the world. Repentant words contradict such a course. This means that we need to find a formulation that, without discarding the apology for the past, would justify Japan's claims to leadership in the region. ”

“It can be assumed that in an attempt to diminish Japan's responsibility for the war, Abe will emphasize that she herself became a victim of atomic bombings, emphasize the country's participation in peacekeeping operations, its contribution to the UN humanitarian programs. This, incidentally, fits into the new national security strategy. The Cabinet of Ministers has already approved a proposal to pass a law allowing the army to provide assistance outside Japan in case of aggression against the allies. Now we need to carry out this initiative through the parliament, ”Pavlyatenko explained.

At the same time, according to the expert, “Tokyo is forced to take into account that China and South Korea are still extremely sensitive to how Japanese leaders interpret historical events"
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  1. +20
    27 January 2015 11: 43
    One more mattress covers ..
    1. +43
      27 January 2015 11: 46
      The Japanese have a great chance to step twice on the same rake.
      1. +14
        27 January 2015 11: 49
        But now China is not so weak and will give it in the teeth without our participation !!!
        Quote: Giant thought
        The Japanese have a great chance to step twice on the same rake.
        1. +1
          27 January 2015 16: 00
          Likewise, the Japanese are by no means weaklings, especially at sea.
      2. +26
        27 January 2015 11: 52
        Only they need to think well !!! The Chinese have not forgotten anything and hate them fiercely.
        1. +8
          27 January 2015 12: 21
          I agree, but Koreans are also unfriendly to the Japanese .... my nephew has been working in one of the firms in Seoul for more than ten years and says that the Japanese who work for their company are not invited anywhere to official events ... Russians are quite treated kindly!
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          2. +6
            27 January 2015 12: 43
            .... will focus on the fact that she herself became a victim of atomic bombings

            ...and what? ... just so bluntly and say that the United States threw off nuclear bombs on them?
            ... most likely they will say ... "therefore they are forced to impose additional sanctions against Russia" ... their logic is unchanged
            1. +4
              27 January 2015 13: 02
              Oleg


              ...and what? ... just so bluntly and say that the United States threw off nuclear bombs on them?

              They will say that they themselves have become victims of the atomic bombings, but they will not say anything about the SSHA (after all, an ally), so that one can understand differently. what
            2. +2
              27 January 2015 13: 38
              You are wrong, in Japan they think that Russia dropped the bombs.
            3. +1
              27 January 2015 21: 32
              This is not about the United States. They have long believed that the bombs were dropped by the USSR. Brains have been washed for a long time. And how do the atrocities of the Nazis differ from the Japanese on Sakhalin in the last Russian-Japanese war? probably only the absence of Cyclone-B.
          3. +1
            27 January 2015 13: 39
            More than half of the Japanese teenagers surveyed confidently stated that the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were made by the USSR.
      3. +7
        27 January 2015 11: 59
        The Japanese have a great chance to step twice on the same rake.


        They have a chance to disappear altogether! am
      4. +2
        27 January 2015 12: 27
        The Japanese are not one of those who step on them twice, but our country, unfortunately, will be able to three times. . work on the repair and modernization of the Navy and Air Force.
      5. 0
        27 January 2015 12: 30
        Do not just step on, but break your forehead twice about them
      6. +1
        27 January 2015 12: 33
        and with whom will they fight?
        China and the DPRK have nuclear weapons, South Korea's army is far from weak, the emnip is stronger than the Japanese, and there are no more close neighbors, except perhaps to sail away and try to butt with Indonesia and the Philippines.
        1. +1
          27 January 2015 16: 03
          You are in vain, very in vain. The Japanese "Self-Defense Force" is one of the most modern and capable forces in Asia, with excellent funding and ongoing exercises. Their fleet is generally inferior only to the American one in the APR. In no case should Japan be belittled, as our rulers already did at the beginning of the 20th century.
      7. +9
        27 January 2015 12: 35
        Japanese Prime Minister rethinks World War II

        The Japanese seem to have forgotten, so we can always remind:
        1. 0
          27 January 2015 14: 52
          We do not forget about the results of the Russo-Japanese War ...
          Then they rammed the Anglo-Saxons in the east ..
          In the current situation, they also understand that they can only oppose China and Russia as part of the fist of the anti-Russian coalition.

          And the solution of the territorial dispute over the Kuriles (for mattress-makers - the value in creating a hotbed of tension on the eastern border) and, as a result, control over the passage through the ice-free Sea of ​​Okhotsk - oh, what a tidbit.

          And the concept of "shapkozakidatelstvo" appeared just in the era of the Russo-Japanese War, when the enemy was underestimated.
      8. +1
        27 January 2015 13: 02
        The Chinese have a huge tooth on them, so let the Japs do not jump too much, otherwise their islands will disappear into the Pacific Ocean.
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    3. Evgen4ik
      +4
      27 January 2015 11: 57
      One more mattress covers ..

      Rather, China would have decided to take revenge. I would have doused myself with champagne like Formula 1 pilots. Russia would have warmed up so much that the United States in WWII never dreamed of.
      1. +1
        27 January 2015 16: 04
        Take it easy dude. Think about the Far East. Where are we going to transport cars and goods?
    4. 0
      27 January 2015 12: 05
      Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
      One more mattress covers ..

      Life does not teach them anything!
    5. 0
      27 January 2015 12: 15
      Well, they've been under the mattress covers since 1945.
    6. +5
      27 January 2015 12: 35
      Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
      One more mattress covers ..

      You guys are looking at problems too simply.

      Digress: I agree with the opinion of some analysts I respect that Russia's omissions (to put it mildly) in the political arena are the result of too radical assessments of the behavior of other countries and, as a result, radicalization in building its position in relations with these countries.
      Like: whoever is not with us is against us. But the world has become more complicated and is playing according to different rules - you can impose sanctions and immediately have a nice conversation about the weather.

      The Americans introduced a "new" rule: cutlets (also pasta, sauce, etc.) separately, and flies separately.

      Now let's return to the Japanese (however, it doesn't matter - in relation to any adequate country) - they are neither mattress toppers, nor pro-mattress toppers - they are pro-Japanese.

      They have not forgotten the bombing. But they have a main goal - the prosperity of Japan. And there are external factors - the occupation of the United States, confrontation with China, India, Russia, etc.
      And they proceed from the pragmatism of achieving their main goal.

      That's it.
      Of course, I have described a somewhat idealized Japan - the government has largely engaged politicians controlled by the Americans. But this does not mean that it will be like this forever - you need to make efforts and resolve issues for the benefit of both parties - then there will be a sense.

      The Japanese are more patriotic than the same "European" Baltic sisters.
      1. +3
        27 January 2015 14: 58
        iConst. The Japanese are more patriots than ........... So why the hell do these patriots put up with the fact that they live under the dictation of the United States since the distant 45 years. Yes, they did a lot for the good of their homeland, but they could not get out of the US influence, almost 70 after the war years.
        1. 0
          27 January 2015 15: 30
          Quote: Starik72
          iConst. The Japanese are more patriots than ........... So why the hell, these patriots put up with the fact that they live under the dictation of the United States since the distant 45 years.

          This is a defeated country. And the pendocs have made sure since that very 45th year that Japan was in their hands.

          And do not forget that the United States is the largest sales market for a small Japan, devoid of minerals and energy resources. Where should they go? Now, if Russia would offer a real alternative and support, then the Japanese would think about it.
          And so - as I said, they need to live and they choose the most profitable course for themselves.
        2. 0
          28 January 2015 05: 59
          Even Russia has still not been able to escape from the influence of the United States since the beginning of the 90s, we are still looking back at the opinion of "our Western partners." It's too big.
      2. +1
        27 January 2015 15: 00
        Everything is correct. But, I believe that by "mattress covers" the author of the post meant that in order to achieve his main goal (what? Dominance in the region? With whom? Under whose protectorate? With whose help?), Japanese politicians can sacrifice their national dignity and historical objectivity.

        We will get the answer to this when the Prime Minister of Japan voices his assessment of the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki - which will determine: under the mattress or on the mattress.
        1. +1
          27 January 2015 15: 32
          Quote: Kindof
          We will get the answer to this when the Prime Minister of Japan voices his assessment of the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki - which will determine: under the mattress or on the mattress.

          This will only happen when the United States looses its grip and drives out state agents of influence from the government.
    7. 0
      27 January 2015 12: 50
      Samurai descendants shake off the dust of guilt. No need to be silent!
    8. +6
      27 January 2015 13: 22
      Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
      One more mattress covers ..
      1. 0
        27 January 2015 14: 06
        Destroy Japan, divide territories with China. Population, mmm ... to China to reformat them.
    9. +1
      27 January 2015 14: 20
      Actually, this is not such news. Japan has never "overcome the past" like Germany. The fact that Japan was provoked into the war by the United States and Great Britain is quite an official thesis. And Nanjing and everything else usually either deny or say that the Americans have no moral right to accuse them of anything after what they did to Japanese cities at the end of the war. And it all started back in the early 90s.
      1. -1
        27 January 2015 14: 48
        And where are the Americans? Or did the proud islanders massacre their population? The Americans did the right thing by avenging Pearl Harbor and trampling the Japanese into the mud. We deserve it. You still need to look for such an arrogant people on Earth
        1. +1
          27 January 2015 15: 26
          Accidentally minus, sorry ..
          Militaristic Japan showed itself as the Nazis in all its glory: genocide, torture and experiments on prisoners.
          But they can't get out of the islands ..

          The Americans signed a peace treaty - what mutual claims can there be ..

          But relations with China and with Russia have not been settled.
          The representatives of the Soviet Union, Czechoslovakia and Poland, who participated in the conference, refused to sign it. The head of the Soviet delegation A.A. Gromyko emphasized that the representatives of the PRC were not invited to the conference, and the text of the treaty did not enshrine the territorial rights of China to Taiwan, the Pescadores and Paracel Islands, as well as the sovereignty of the USSR over South Sakhalin and the Kuril Islands.
  2. FACKtoREAL
    +1
    27 January 2015 11: 46
    yeah ... "we would have his worries!"
    bully
    1. 0
      27 January 2015 11: 51

      not in the subject
      STRASBOURG, 27 Jan - RIA Novosti. Rapporteur on Russia's powers in PACE, head of the monitoring commission, Stefan Shennach, proposes to return the Russian delegation the right to vote, but to limit its participation in observation missions, said on Tuesday a member of the monitoring committee, deputy head of the Russian delegation Leonid Slutsky.

      According to him, he got acquainted with the main provisions of the report on the eve of the meeting of the monitoring commission that opens at these hours.

      "The draft resolution on the Schennach report proposes to ratify the powers of the Russian Federation in order to advance the general dialogue. At the same time, it is proposed to suspend the rights of members of our delegation to be appointed rapporteurs from PACE, to participate in election observation missions, to represent the bodies of the Assembly for 2015," - Slutsky told reporters.

      At the same time, he stressed that the delegation of the Russian Federation would insist on the return of all powers in full format. "However, Shennach's proposals are compromise," Slutsky said.

      The final version of the report, the deputy head of the delegation specified, will be clear on Wednesday after amendments are made to the monitoring commission.

      How relations between Moscow and PACE have deteriorated

      Relations between Russia and the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe cooled in April 2014 after the PACE adopted a decision to deprive the Russian delegation of the right to vote, the right to participate in the meeting of the statutory bodies and the opportunity to participate in the monitoring activities of the assembly due to Moscow's position on Crimea. The Russian delegation left the conference room pending the restoration of powers. Read more about depriving Russia of the right to vote in PACE - in the RIA Novosti report >>

      How the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe works

      The Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe is the oldest international parliamentary institution in Europe, operating since 1949. It is one of the two main statutory bodies of the Council of Europe and represents the interests of the main political parties existing in the member states of the organization. The Assembly considers issues related to the problems of modern society and various aspects of international politics. The assembly with the right to vote includes delegations from 47 countries. Israel, Canada, Mexico have observer status. Read more in the RIA Novosti Help >>
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      2. +3
        27 January 2015 12: 32
        What's the compromise? Pay your membership and keep your mouth shut? Enough to bend over to American lackeys!
  3. +9
    27 January 2015 11: 46
    We also need to rethink the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
    According to new data, they bombed themselves.
    1. 0
      27 January 2015 12: 45
      In the technically advanced Japan of the mid-20th century, air conditioners were installed quite often, the largest number of them was recorded in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. It was the air conditioners that provoked the spontaneous fall of nuclear bombs from peacefully flying American bombers.
  4. +11
    27 January 2015 11: 47
    It's already getting trendy laughing Yes, the Germans also repented and began to create another Reich under the guise of the EU laughing
  5. +2
    27 January 2015 11: 48
    peace treaty sign ... repentant samurai ..

    or we are waiting for the announcement that the Russians bombed Nagasaki with Hiroshima.
    1. +1
      27 January 2015 12: 02
      That's right, my dear friend Alexander.
      Or a contract ... or let him chop off his finger in Yakuza, right at the fork.
      Since seppuku is incapable of doing, sam-urai.
      ...
      In general, a good custom is hara-kiri. We need to introduce with us, in relation to officials who have fined.
      He stole, drank, stole - for hara-kiri.
      And your accomplice will help you with your head.
      And so in a circle.
    2. +1
      27 January 2015 12: 04
      Quote: vorobey
      peace treaty sign ... repentant samurai ..


      Does it bother you?
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        1. +1
          27 January 2015 12: 17
          As we understand it, Abe wants to revive the samurai spirit of the Japanese military in order to be able to fight on foreign territories.
          1. 0
            27 January 2015 13: 42
            Well, think, there will be half of Japan! With what an insane aspiration, countries strive to play with their "muscles"! Samurai, until recently, demonstrated an enviable "harmonious non-interference", but most likely, the accident at the "Fokushima" served as the very detonator that activated the revival of the "Japanese Militarism", which seemed to have sunk into oblivion, in the land of Sakura!
            1. 0
              27 January 2015 15: 03
              Not a detonator, but the cause of the mutation ..
              Have you watched Godzilla movies?
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      2. +2
        27 January 2015 12: 15
        Quote: Lelek
        Does it bother you?


        Honestly? not really ... for us Tatars that we need to advance to run, what to retreat to flee ...
  6. +1
    27 January 2015 11: 48
    In short, again we will be to blame for everything, including the bombing.
  7. +2
    27 January 2015 11: 48
    He who listens to his father and mother - has the experience of one generation, who knows the history of his country - has the experience of all generations! The West is doing everything to make their people forget how their ancestors fled from Russian bayonets and surrendered in hundreds!
    1. 0
      27 January 2015 15: 08
      Ivan Slavyanin agree with you! After all, who does not know history and crap and spit on it, THAT IS NOT WORTHY FOR THE FUTURE. It is not for nothing that a clever MAN said this!
  8. +3
    27 January 2015 11: 48
    He who listens to his father and mother - has the experience of one generation, who knows the history of his country - has the experience of all generations! The West is doing everything to make their people forget how their ancestors fled from Russian bayonets and surrendered in hundreds!
  9. +1
    27 January 2015 11: 49
    It will say that Japan suffered during the war, lost its territory, over the past decades, atoned for its guilt by participating in humanitarian actions. This means it may well regain its authority in the Pacific Ocean. History is not easily rewritten, it is being re-created.
  10. 0
    27 January 2015 11: 49
    It can be assumed that Abe, in an attempt to downplay Japan's responsibility for the war, will emphasize that she herself became a victim of atomic bombings ...


    Such a statement will remind you of the "true democracy" of the United States.
  11. 0
    27 January 2015 11: 53
    The Japanese can think whatever they want. China has not forgotten who is to blame for the deaths of millions of Chinese.
  12. 0
    27 January 2015 11: 53
    "Tokyo has to take into account that China and South Korea remain extremely sensitive to how Japanese leaders interpret historical events."

    As much as they would like to present the results of World War II, they still have to reckon with China and Russia.
  13. +1
    27 January 2015 11: 54
    "Abe, in an attempt to downplay Japan's responsibility for the war, will emphasize that she herself was the victim of the atomic bombings."
    It would not be bad for someone else to say who dropped these bombs.
    And the responsibility for the war cannot be underestimated ... no matter how hard you try.
  14. -1
    27 January 2015 11: 56
    ... "The Cabinet of Ministers has already approved a proposal that a law be passed allowing the army, in the event of aggression against the allies, to assist them outside the borders of Japan. Now this initiative needs to be passed through parliament."


    Oh, I smell: the cat is scratching, on its back ...!
    They will forget and will not remember ... maybe a repeated geodetic attack will be repeated .... !!!
  15. +5
    27 January 2015 11: 57
    I wonder if Obama will be invited to the anniversary of the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
    1. +6
      27 January 2015 11: 59
      They will invite, they will be greeted as a liberator)))
  16. +1
    27 January 2015 12: 01
    Well, these at least apologize and don't show off much, they just walk there on their island, glow in the quiet in the dark and gurgle, unlike the Fritzes, they generally forgot everything, along with other European prostitutes.
  17. ZAM
    0
    27 January 2015 12: 02
    Mdaaa ... The fewer veterans, people who went through that bloody war, Soviet people, and everyone who fought then ... the more such revanchists appear ... Those who believe that their next war will not be terrible and victorious .. .Everything is itching, talking monkeys
    1. -3
      27 January 2015 12: 31
      Quote: ZAM
      the more such revanchists appear ... Those who believe that their next war will not be terrible and victorious ...

      Why immediately - the war? some kind of linear thinking. The Yapas want to say that, like, they have stood in the corner for 70 years - that's enough. It's time to return to the Asia-Pacific region, move China. The states, of course, also get in the way of a nervous scabies dragon. The policy of containment and counterbalance.
      1. ZAM
        +2
        27 January 2015 13: 00
        The Yapas, as you said, made so much trouble in the last century that they had to stand and stand in the corner ... And the dragon just dreams, and leave them there ... And the Japs apparently began to forget what they were doing ... That's a war smelled there ...
        1. 0
          27 January 2015 16: 13
          Quote: ZAM
          The Yapas, as you said, have done so much in the last century that they stand and stand in the corner ...

          why on earth? Who will stop them from getting out in the APR? The fleet is one of the five most powerful. Is military spending only 1% of GDP? So what? GDP - $ 6 trillion, enough for a military man. Not such a frail ally for the United States to tease a dragon.
  18. +1
    27 January 2015 12: 05
    I would not even compare Japan and China. How can you compare a nuclear country with any other?
    1. +1
      27 January 2015 13: 00
      Quote: Committee
      I would not even compare Japan and China.

      I do not compare. Of course, no one will ever invite Japan to the nuclear club, but they do not particularly complex about this. But the nuclear lobby is still there. Remember the 2010 scandal)
      And the fact that the emphasis of the Yapov doctrine has shifted from defense to "ensuring peace and stability in the APR" speaks for itself: without their fingers in the pie, the Japanese do not see the future of the APR.
  19. 0
    27 January 2015 12: 06
    Quote: EvgTan
    I wonder if Obama will be invited to the anniversary of the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

    Well, yes! Let him and this event "chew". It will be beautiful ...
    Actually, an interesting picture: the Americans bombed, and Russia remained the enemy.
  20. +1
    27 January 2015 12: 06
    Everything. We are waiting for new results ... a new war ...
    1. 0
      27 January 2015 16: 30
      Quote: POMAH
      We are waiting for new results ... a new war ...

      who with whom?
  21. +6
    27 January 2015 12: 09
    I bet a tooth on the line that if Abe hinted at Hiroshima, he would say so that it was not clear who was bombing.
    1. +1
      27 January 2015 12: 39
      Quote: Humpty
      I bet a tooth on the line that if Abe hinted at Hiroshima, he would say so that it was not clear who was bombing.

      Well, you don't need a grudge) But I agree - judging by the fact that since 2010 they began to invite American diplomats to the mourning ceremonies on August 6 and, in general, according to pacifist rhetoric, the names of Tibbets and Truman will not sound.
  22. 0
    27 January 2015 12: 09
    that's just not enough ...
  23. Viktor Kudinov
    +2
    27 January 2015 12: 24
    At the same time, according to the expert, "Tokyo is forced to take into account that China and South Korea are still extremely sensitive to how Japanese leaders interpret historical events."


    Russia also does not like the interpretation of historical events by the leaders of Japan, who put forward territorial claims to Russia. And we are also not satisfied that Japan is building up its military potential, incl. offensive.
  24. +1
    27 January 2015 12: 24
    the samurai woke up ... they didn't give it in the eye for a long time ...
  25. 0
    27 January 2015 12: 24
    maybe they want to repeat pierl harble i'm for
    1. 0
      27 January 2015 13: 53
      Quote: _Alexey_
      maybe they want to repeat pierl harble i'm for

      strange, to put it mildly, comment. What is this all about?
  26. 0
    27 January 2015 12: 26
    Well, sooner or later it has to happen. Yapi will not sit on the islands forever with a guilty look, otherwise they are not Yapi.
  27. +1
    27 January 2015 12: 27
    A session of parliament has opened in Japan, at which, among other things, the question of how to celebrate the 70th anniversary of the end of World War II will be discussed, Nezavisimaya Gazeta reports.
    Why celebrate defeat at all ?! I do not believe that Japan, and even more so Germany, feel remorse and regret, rather, like anyone in their place, they simply harbored anger and are waiting for the moment for revenge, Germany seems to have been closely overwhelmed by revanchist sentiments.
  28. 0
    27 January 2015 12: 34
    Quote: Buran
    They have a chance to disappear altogether!


    Don't underestimate the Japanese. This nation has always been aggressive, besides there are 128 million of them (I could be wrong, but something like that). And it's not hard to guess against whom these pro-American aggressors are sharpening their knives.
  29. +1
    27 January 2015 12: 34
    It is strange, after all, according to the verdict of the tribunal, Japan does not have the right to conduct hostilities outside its country, and the Japanese do not officially have an army, they only have self-defense forces. It turns out that now all these post-military tribunals can be safely scored, although Germany has already done this a long time ago.
  30. kompotnenado
    +3
    27 January 2015 12: 41
    The Red Army in two weeks smashed to smithereens twice the Japanese troops. Where was the wording of the veterans that it was somehow inconvenient to fight the Japanese? About how to beat a kid - a bastard. Inconvenient, but necessary. And according to international law, Russia can now bomb Japan legally. The surrendering side did not sign the peace treaty.
  31. +2
    27 January 2015 12: 41
    With all due respect to the opinion that Japan is an enemy akin to Britain and the United States, I cannot agree with this. It would be nice for us to have independent from the USA and strong enough Japan as a counterbalance to China in the region. They should equalize each other and Russia will only benefit from this. Plus, a rebound from the "mattress" would give the country of the Ascendant an opportunity to buy energy resources from us freely, which is very profitable for them and to transfer part of their high-tech exports to our side. If they have a strong leader in any century, if he does not scratch his tongue into the void, then ... There is also the possibility of finally agreeing on a peace treaty, which was impossible to do with the full control of the United States.
    1. 0
      27 January 2015 13: 11
      Quote: fycom
      Plus rebound from the "mattress"

      why would they bounce off the states? The Yapi in 2010 officially designated China as their main military threat. How are they without an ally?
  32. 0
    27 January 2015 12: 42
    I think Russia will not strain. But China will offer it to rethink the outcome of the war. You see, China will have new lands
  33. +3
    27 January 2015 12: 45
    EvgTan RU Today, 11:57
    I wonder if Obama will be invited to the anniversary of the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

    Well, of course. The Poles invited Merkel to Auschwitz.
  34. +1
    27 January 2015 12: 50
    Quote: FACKtoREAL
    yeah ... "we would have his worries!"
    bully
  35. 0
    27 January 2015 12: 54
    unfortunately Japan forgets history and the words about rethinking history something else actually ... if in their textbooks everything is softened against the United States and the majority of young people are opposed to Russia, the "correct" education "according to Soros" and the youth are sure that the USSR used nuclear weapons against them ...
    what can we talk about here? what rethinking? They are now one of the closest allies of the United States, and a peace treaty was never signed with the USSR, hence the constant shading on the Kurillas, well, why can he say? that they have geopolitical interests in our direction, and what should be expected if the whole world barks at Russia, one mongrel is more than one less.

    I agree with the expert " Repentant words contradict such a course. This means that it is necessary to find a formulation that, without discarding an apology for the past, would justify Japan's claims to leadership in the region."
  36. 0
    27 January 2015 13: 15
    Occupied Japan is trying to declare "its" ambitions.
  37. +1
    27 January 2015 13: 16
    I propose to recall the story ... Nanjing massacre:
    -In December 1937, during the Second Sino-Japanese War, soldiers of the Imperial Japanese Army killed many civilians in Nanjing, then the capital of the Republic of China. Japanese soldiers killed more than 200 civilians and Chinese troops in 000 massacres, and at least more 28 people were killed on occasion during the infamous massacre in Nanjing. The killings were carried out with particular brutality. The firearms used by the Japanese soldiers were not used. Thousands of victims were stabbed with bayonets, their heads cut off, people were burned, buried alive ...
    there are other facts:
    -February 15, 1942 Japanese troops occupied the British colony of Singapore and carried out ethnic cleansing there, identifying the Chinese population. Everything happened with the same cruelty as in Nanjing.
    - In early February 1945, after it became clear that occupied Manila could not be held, before the withdrawal, the Japanese army began the methodical destruction of Manila and the destruction of its civilian population. If there were Europeans, they were sent through neutral countries, according to the slogan "Asia for Asians". The inhabitants of the five thousandth town of Kalamba were completely destroyed. In total, according to the most conservative preliminary estimates, 111 people were killed with particular cruelty.
    1. 0
      27 January 2015 13: 25
      Quote: _my opinion
      I propose to recall the story ... Nanjing massacre:
      -In December 1937, during the second Sino-Japanese War ...

      yes, the carnage is terrible, but this is not in the context of WWII. Since 1993, the Yapas have methodically apologized for the massacre, occupation and brothels with Chinese women, although they argue about the number of victims.
    2. 0
      27 January 2015 17: 48
      Quote: _my opinion
      I suggest remembering the story.

      Detachment 731 conducted no less cruel experiments on people than the Germans in concentration camps. It was created, according to some sources, in 1932, according to others - in 1936 and was located in the part of China occupied by the Japanese, in the Manchurian village of Pingfang, 20 km from Harbin. It was a secret facility, for conspiracy purposes, named the General Directorate for Water Supply and Prevention of the Kwantung Army units. Detachment 731 was commanded by Lieutenant General Shiro Ishii. By early 1939, Detachment 731 was a large military camp with many laboratories and service buildings. The personnel consisted of about 3000 people.
      The main goal of the detachment was to prepare for bacteriological warfare. Other studies were carried out in parallel. The test subjects were convicts, mainly Chinese and Russians, but also Mongols and Koreans. Never Japanese. With a lack of "experimental material" new people, the Japanese gendarmerie and special services were simply caught on the streets of Manchuria.

      It is not known exactly how many people were killed in Pingfang. At the Khabarovsk trial over the Japanese military, which took place in 1949, the head of the production department of detachment 731 Kiyoshi Kawashima said that only from 1940 to 1945. the victims were 3000 people.

      The experimental people who were brought to the detachment were called "logs". This was done for the purpose of conspiracy, but had an important moral justification: the doctors who conducted the experiments were forbidden to consider them people, they were just material.

      The main type of experiments was the study of the impact of plague-infected flies on humans. In laboratories, strains of plague were bred - much more dangerous than the natural forms of this disease. In addition to the plague, the impact of improved strains of cholera, anthrax, typhus, etc. was studied. Detachment 731 even had its own planes, from which they dropped infected flies onto special training grounds and Manchurian settlements. In the course of other experiments, doctors studied on "logs" the capabilities of the human body in the absence of food and water, with frostbite of the extremities, with the injected blood of animals.

      The logs were not left alive. Most often, they died directly during the experiments. Otherwise, doctors performed autopsies on living bodies, removing organs until the person dies. In this way, it was investigated how the experiment was carried out by each organ.

      Detachment 731 worked until the Soviet army liberated northeast China from occupation in 1945.
  38. 0
    27 January 2015 13: 33
    So let him show the amers for Herosima and Nagasaki, well, of course, everyone did it, what about their samurai honor, they threw bombs on them, and they hammer into the gums with them.
    1. 0
      27 January 2015 13: 59
      Quote: gryaznov.igor.
      So let him show amers for Herosima and Nagasaki

      and what will they present? What, in 1945 there was already a convention on the non-use of nuclear weapons and the States violated it? What one "Kid" did, the Butcher Harris in Europe achieved by carpet bombing. And that makes all the difference. Did the Germans show their allies a fig?
  39. 0
    27 January 2015 13: 41
    Oh, also the cross-eyed mouths open their smelly mouths. We urgently need to put Iskanders on the Kuril Islands in order to remind these descendants of the samurai Fukushima.
  40. 0
    27 January 2015 13: 43
    Such is the dilemma .. The evil spirits began to stir around us. All around are revising the history and results of the Second World War.
    All hands are itching to use their forces outside their states. Someday our mother earth will get bored and she will shake off some of this narrow-eyed star-striped biomass. crying
  41. 0
    27 January 2015 13: 45
    What is not easy to live. Some schizos enter the government of other countries, everyone tries to get into history to some extent, no matter how he does it.
  42. 0
    27 January 2015 14: 02
    The world is again divided into blocks. Only now is it multipolar. 1.USA, EU and all their hangers-on,
    2. China, Russia and other BRICS countries
    3 Arabs are fundamentalists ...
    And if almost all countries opposed the axis in the 2nd world (Berlin-Rome-Tokyo), now ... uuuuuuuuu
  43. Denis Skiff M2.0
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    27 January 2015 15: 20
    Quote: Giant thought
    The Japanese have a great chance to step twice on the same rake.

    I wonder if they are coming or have they already come and the stalk is already moving towards the forehead?
  44. +2
    27 January 2015 16: 24
    I see no reason for the sarcasm towards Japan, which many commentators demonstrate here. And phrases in the style of "China will easily overwhelm Japan" give off a hat. Firstly, China will not use any nuclear weapons against Japan, since in this case American nuclear weapons, which are much more modern and numerous, as well as thousands of cruise missiles, can be used against it. In the end, the Japanese do not have all this only because of their obligations and the agreement with the United States. In technical terms, they will create it as soon as possible if necessary. Secondly, the main hostilities, in which case, will be conducted at sea, and here the Japanese have an advantage in the form of much more modern and high-tech ships and aircraft, as well as full integration with American systems.
    Anyway, can you remember at least one war won by China in modern times? And Japan at one time for several years crushed the entire Southeast of Asia and was preparing to land in Australia. Living in Vladivostok, I naturally communicated with both Japanese and Chinese, there are quite a few of them here. The Japanese plow like robots, discipline is sacred for them, they are like a single well-oiled mechanism. Such efficiency can only be envied. Alas, I cannot say this about the Chinese. They are great traders, they can sell any crap. But I would not say that they are processed. And the warriors of them are so-so. Often, in articles about China, commentators write that China is not capable of developing anything on its own, but only copies someone else's. Although this is certainly not true, but even if we take this thesis as a basis, how can a country where everything is only copied, can compete with a country - the author of a heap of developments and one of the leaders of many industries in the world ?!
    PS My opinion: in the event of a conflict in the Asian region, Russia should in no case openly support either side. At the moment, we have friendly relations with China and quite friendly relations with Japan and South Korea, it makes no sense to destroy the established order, especially the Far East of Russia, especially the Primorsky Territory and Vladivostok, which are economically tied to these countries, will only lose from this.
    1. +1
      27 January 2015 16: 38
      Quote: Greenwood
      I see no reason to be sarcastic about Japan

      plus mine. Fans of rake-all-war rhetoric will minus, of course, but - not the point.
      Quote: Greenwood
      will be conducted at sea, but here the Japanese have an advantage in the form of much more modern and high-tech ships
      The Japanese fleet is in the top five. Built in Japan, not towed from Honolulu after decommissioning. Armament - yes, American face. But - an ally.
      Quote: Greenwood
      At the moment we have friendly relations with China and quite friendly with Japan and South Korea, it makes no sense to destroy the established order
      Unfortunately, this is not in the interest of the states. Therefore, the APR will not be left alone.
  45. 0
    27 January 2015 18: 11
    I think Japan is reacting in this way to the threatening growth of China's influence and ambitions, the struggle for disputed territories rich in hydrocarbons, does not imply conversations with a bowed head, even if the Japanese had previously chopped more Chinese into salad than for a second, the Germans in the entire Second World War.