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In the Russian Air Force will go "Birdie-Air Force" - Yak-152

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Roman Taskaev, Deputy General Director of Yakovlev Design Bureau for Flight Test, Hero of Russia, said that in the near future, the Yak-152 light training aircraft, which is being developed under the Ptichka-VVS code, will begin to flow into the Russian Air Force.


“We expect that the first flight of the Yak-152 will take place in September-October of this year. Now the Irkutsk Aviation Plant is already producing parts of this aircraft. In the Ramenskoye design bureau, the creation of an aircraft control complex, the adjustment of algorithms are in full swing, ”he said. "Voennoe.rf".

Taskaev noted that at the end of last year, the aircraft mockup commission had summarized its comments on the draft. Currently, these adjustments are made to the documentation.

“After the first flights, we expect to relocate the aircraft to Zhukovsky (to the airfield of the Gromov Flight Research Institute), where we will bring it to the transfer to state tests. They will be held in 2016 year, ”he added.

In 2014, the Yakovlev Design Bureau won the tender for the creation of the Yak-152 for the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. The cost of the project is about 300 million rubles. It is planned that the new machine will be a piston with a diesel power unit. Flying on it will allow young pilots to master the Yak-130 jet faster and easier, after which they will be able to fly combat aircraft. Previously there were reports that the first flight of the Yak-152 is scheduled for 2015 year, and he will begin to arrive in the troops no later than 25 in November of the next year.









Layout of a promising training aircraft Yak-152, developed by JSC "OKB named after A.S. Yakovleva ”under a contract with the Ministry of Defense of Russia to conduct a developmental project“ Developing a training complex for the initial flight training of pilots on the basis of a training aircraft for the initial training of the Yak-152 ”under the code“ Ptichka-VVS ”. September 2014 of the Year (c) OSKBES MAI / oskbes.ru
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  1. andr327
    andr327 27 January 2015 10: 01 New
    +2
    but where is at least a drawing of a bird?
    1. fantast
      fantast 27 January 2015 10: 03 New
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      Added photos
      1. Byshido_dis
        Byshido_dis 27 January 2015 10: 07 New
        15
        Beautiful bird! Pilots will love this plane!
        1. MBA78
          MBA78 27 January 2015 10: 24 New
          +6
          symbol of victory!
        2. svp67
          svp67 27 January 2015 11: 15 New
          0
          Quote: Byshido_dis
          Beautiful bird!
          Серый цвет, вот наверное немногое, что бы я оставил из "наследия" Сердюкова.
          1. lelikas
            lelikas 27 January 2015 14: 20 New
            +4
            Quote: svp67
            Серый цвет, вот наверное немногое, что бы я оставил из "наследия" Сердюкова.

            What is good in gray? Okay, there’s still light gray, and when it’s almost black, it’s generally darkness. And the plane is subtly reminiscent of the MiG-3.
            1. svp67
              svp67 27 January 2015 22: 14 New
              +3
              Quote: lelikas
              Okay, there’s still light gray, and when it’s almost black, it’s generally darkness.
              На вкус и цвет... Но по моему и в "темном" есть своя красота








            2. Aqela
              Aqela 27 January 2015 22: 41 New
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              Or, rather, the Yak-7. lol
            3. Duke
              Duke 28 January 2015 00: 29 New
              +1
              Quote: lelikas
              And the plane is subtly reminiscent of the MiG-3.

              Rather YAK-3. or yak -7.

        3. vladimirZ
          vladimirZ 27 January 2015 16: 09 New
          -7
          The definition in military schools, for training pilots, as a training aircraft of a YAK-152 screw piston aircraft with the characteristics and speeds of a SCREW PLANE - THIS IS A STEP BACK IN TRAINING MILITARY PILOTS.
          Until now, pilots in military schools have been trained on Czech jet aircraft L-39 with characteristics and speeds close to modern combat aircraft.
          Yak-152 aircraft for DOSAAF is good, but not for military schools.
          That this is a flaw in the persons who determine the training methodology for military pilots, or a deliberate action aimed at disrupting the training of military pilots in Russia, for the sake of some selfish goals.
          1. Nick
            Nick 27 January 2015 16: 45 New
            +2
            Quote: vladimirZ
            The definition in military schools, for training pilots, as a training aircraft of a YAK-152 screw piston aircraft with the characteristics and speeds of a SCREW PLANE - THIS IS A STEP BACK IN TRAINING MILITARY PILOTS.

            Quote: vladimirZ
            Until now, pilots in military schools have been trained on Czech jet aircraft L-39 with characteristics and speeds close to modern combat aircraft.

            Why trifle? Immediately on the T-50
          2. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 27 January 2015 18: 48 New
            +3
            Quote: vladimirZ
            The definition in military schools, for training pilots, as a training aircraft of a YAK-152 screw piston aircraft with the characteristics and speeds of a SCREW PLANE - THIS IS A STEP BACK IN TRAINING MILITARY PILOTS.
            Until now, pilots in military schools have been trained on Czech jet aircraft L-39 with characteristics and speeds close to modern combat aircraft.

            Проблема в том, что "элка" не вечна - их ресурс уже выбит. А Як-130 в роли машины для первоначальной подготовки сложен и дорог.
            Therefore, we went according to a two-stage system adopted throughout the world: at the first stage - a screw machine of initial training, at the second - a combat training jet Yak-130, which imitates almost any model of ISA.
          3. Aqela
            Aqela 27 January 2015 22: 47 New
            +2
            Ясен пень! А уж Як-130 насколько хуже "Дельфина" - просто нет слов!
            А для "особо одарённых": Як-152 для начальной подготовки"
            OCD "Development of a training complex for the initial flight training of pilots on the basis of a training aircraft for the initial training of the Yak-152"

            It seemed to me that it was obvious that a plane with new technologies had long been needed, instead of the Yak-52, with modern avionics, a reconfigurable control system. I was wrong. Obviously not for everyone.
            Is it better to carry out primary training on motor-hang gliders?
            By the way, I think that the next candidate for replacement is the An-2.
      2. Duke
        Duke 27 January 2015 10: 17 New
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        Aircraft initial training Yak-152 It is part of the Yak-130 training complex and is designed to solve the problems of initial training and professional selection at an early stage of pilot training.
        The Yak-152 is a two-seat single-engine monoplane with a classic aerodynamic design with a low wing, retractable three-leg landing gear with a nose wheel, and the M-14X engine. The cushioning qualities of the landing gear with low-pressure pneumatics, the small take-off and take-off paths during landing allow the aircraft to be operated at small unpaved airfields.
        The equipment installed on the aircraft allows a novice pilot to acquire skills in handling modern flight and navigation, radio communication and sighting equipment. The Yak-152 has a two-seater cockpit with a tandem layout. The front seat is for the student, the back seat for the instructor. The aircraft can be piloted by one of the crew members from both the first and second cockpits. The aircraft is equipped with the SKS-94M ejection system, which ensures an emergency escape by the crew members.
        High reliability, simplicity of design, approaches to the units and communications of the systems provide ease of maintenance with minimal preparation for flights using a minimum of publicly available airfield facilities. The aerodynamic layout of the wing, the shape in the plan and the profiling are selected from the conditions for ensuring the functions of the aircraft for initial training and flight.
        The Yak - 152 aircraft is supposed to be operated in flying clubs and flight schools, which makes it possible to quickly and efficiently train qualified pilots and athlete pilots with minimal costs.
        specifications:
        Option Yak-152
        Take-off weight 1320 kg
        Engine power 360 hp
        Maximum speed 500 km / h
        Stall speed 100 km / h
        Operational overload + 9 / -7 g
        Maximum fuel supply 200 kg
        Maximum flight range 1000 km
        Takeoff / Run Length 175 / 360 m
        Resource 10 000 h
        Calendar life 30 years
        1. Waterfowl
          Waterfowl 27 January 2015 14: 22 New
          0
          The Yak-152 initial training aircraft is part of the Yak-130 training complex and is designed to solve the problems of initial training and professional selection at an early stage of pilot training.

          I understand correctly that the pilots who graduated from the school upon arrival at the unit will train to fly the Yak-152, then the Yak-130, and only after that will they be able to fly combat? And what are they preparing for in schools?
          1. Wedmak
            Wedmak 27 January 2015 14: 41 New
            +1
            And what are they preparing for in schools?

            Well, how to teach how to distinguish between the wing and the elevator. Just kidding. Theoretical training should be high, this is not a car - three / two pedals and a steering wheel. However, on a car, there is without knowledge not only traffic rules, but also the elementary laws of physics.
          2. g1v2
            g1v2 27 January 2015 14: 52 New
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            As I understand it, they attributed specializations to different kb. Yakovlev - training and combat training aircraft, Tupolev - strategic bombers and passenger, Mikoyan - naval aviation and interceptors, etc. It seems that kb competition is being nullified, and almost all kb have been given their field of activity.
            1. Wedmak
              Wedmak 27 January 2015 15: 15 New
              +3
              It is unlikely that they attributed it, everything went to that, someone did better one thing, someone else did it.
              Yakovlev made helicopters, and civilian liners, and sports planes, and even planes with GDP.
              Tupolev specialized in strategists, bombers, civilians and more ... drones.
              Miles - turntables with the usual scheme, of very different directions.
              Kamov - specialization in coaxial turntables.
              Dry - fighters.
              Mikoyan and Guryev are fighters.
              Only then went the division into light and heavy, multifunctional, etc.
              Ilyushin and Antonov - transport and passenger.
              And we had only L-29 and L-39 training and combat training. Own, as far as I remember was not. There were only sparks of ordinary combat.
          3. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 27 January 2015 18: 51 New
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            Quote: Waterfowl
            I understand correctly that the pilots who graduated from the school upon arrival at the unit will train to fly the Yak-152, then the Yak-130, and only after that will they be able to fly combat? And what are they preparing for in schools?

            No. Yak-152 is a machine of initial training and selection of cadets in schools.
            The Yak-152 initial training aircraft is part of the Yak-130 training complex and is designed to solve the problems of initial training and professional selection in the early stages of pilot training.

            Those who did not pass the Yak-152 will not be allowed to explore the Yak-130. laughing
          4. Marconi41
            Marconi41 28 January 2015 11: 27 New
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            Quote: Waterfowl
            I correctly understand that the pilots who graduated from the school upon arrival at the unit will train to fly the Yak-152

            No, it’s not right. Pilots in schools at the initial stage will train on the Yak-152, and having mastered the technique of piloting will transfer to the jet Yak-130. And after graduation, they will fly, maybe on the Su-50, unless of course he grows out of the T-50. Something like this...
      3. 123dv
        123dv 27 January 2015 10: 20 New
        +1
        These guys, a special thing for shooting drones.
        Such airplanes can be stamped by the sea, both quickly and not expensively.
        1. Nayhas
          Nayhas 27 January 2015 10: 23 New
          +4
          Quote: 123dv
          These guys, a special thing for shooting drones.

          Yes, of course, how to look for them without a radar?
          1. Wedmak
            Wedmak 27 January 2015 10: 49 New
            +2
            Insert the OLS under the belly, possibly in a container. No more, with such an airplane size.
            1. Nayhas
              Nayhas 27 January 2015 10: 56 New
              0
              Quote: Wedmak
              Insert the OLS under the belly, possibly in a container. No more, with such an airplane size.

              If only without a co-pilot ... But the airplane is really small ...
              1. Wedmak
                Wedmak 27 January 2015 11: 27 New
                +1
                But a really small airplane

                Yeah, even if he finds out, the question is - how to shoot down? Do not R-73 hang ...
                1. 123dv
                  123dv 27 January 2015 11: 48 New
                  0
                  Guidance essesno from the earth.
                  And weapons, so go far. There are missiles in helicopters, or whatever they complete with bending in the fleet ...
                  Well, machine guns integrate 1 pc.
                  1. Nayhas
                    Nayhas 27 January 2015 12: 12 New
                    +1
                    Quote: 123dv
                    And weapons, so go far. There are missiles in helicopters, or whatever they complete with bending in the fleet ...
                    Well, machine guns integrate 1 pc.

                    He will not pull, the engine is only 480l / s and there is little fuel, it’s only flying over the airfield ...
                2. just exp
                  just exp 27 January 2015 12: 05 New
                  +1
                  and it’s still necessary to get out of the cannon; tea will not be fired at by Boeing.
                3. Rus2012
                  Rus2012 27 January 2015 12: 44 New
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                  Quote: Wedmak
                  Yeah, even if he finds out, the question is - how to shoot down?

                  ... well, let's say there will be a version of the Yak-153 - single, with two suspensions - containers for a ShKAS and radar-type machine gun ...
                4. Aqela
                  Aqela 27 January 2015 22: 55 New
                  0
                  I mentioned the Yak-7 above. This is a typical example of how the Yakovlevsky bureau made a combat aircraft out of a training aircraft.
                5. Marconi41
                  Marconi41 28 January 2015 11: 30 New
                  0
                  Quote: Wedmak
                  the question is how to shoot down? Do not hang the P-73 ...

                  So from Nagan! Like in the old days ...
        2. Aqela
          Aqela 27 January 2015 22: 53 New
          0
          And, if you make the engine a little more powerful, a light attack aircraft is ready. In containers, what just does not happen, only a pairing system is needed. I believe that on digital equipment this is easier to do than on traditional cables and hydraulic drives?
      4. vladkavkaz
        vladkavkaz 27 January 2015 22: 51 New
        0
        fantast
        Does this bird have at least some weapons?
        For counter-terrorism actions as a light attack aircraft would probably not be bad?
        The enemy side has analogs.
        1. Marconi41
          Marconi41 28 January 2015 11: 32 New
          0
          What are you forum users? !!!! What weapon is just a training machine !!!
  2. calocha
    calocha 27 January 2015 10: 01 New
    +4
    It's great that after the terrible 90s, aircraft construction begins to come to its senses.
    1. Giant thought
      Giant thought 27 January 2015 10: 05 New
      +3
      In the photo, for some reason, the Yak-130. The Yak-152 is a completely different aircraft, by the way, not very bad, on it, the cadets will take their first steps in their flight biography, we wish him successful tests and speedy admission to our training centers. PS. While printing, posting, photo quickly changed.
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  3. mojohed2012
    mojohed2012 27 January 2015 10: 02 New
    +2
    In the sense of the YAK-152 turbo-propeller aircraft? Once indicated piston motor.
    It’s good for study, but earlier it was stated that the YAK-130 will be a training aircraft in every sense.
    You give different aircraft and equipment of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation: New, modernized, improved and recreated.
    1. Felix
      Felix 27 January 2015 10: 14 New
      10
      Previously, a cadet learned to fly on a piston Yak-52, then on a jet l-39, and then on a combat training of a specific type such as su-27UB. Now there is the Yak-130 station wagon, but this does not mean that the cadet will have the first flight on it! So you can’t save any cars or cadets!)
      1. saag
        saag 27 January 2015 10: 23 New
        +2
        Quote: Felix
        Now there is the Yak-130 station wagon, but this does not mean that the cadet will have the first flight on it!

        Do you want to plant a cadet for the first time immediately on a jet ???
        1. Mityasha
          Mityasha 27 January 2015 11: 06 New
          +7
          Nothing wrong with that. Itself began its flights on a jet. The question is the complexity of the training machine. Yak 130 is complicated for the first aircraft. On l-29,39 it was normal to fly for the first time. And the Yak 152 is impressive, handsome. Always dreamed of shaving to the limit, in my opinion, probably a screw light machine will leave an excellent impression of the first flight.
      2. aleks 62
        aleks 62 27 January 2015 11: 31 New
        +3
        Previously, a cadet learned to fly a piston Yak-52, then a jet L-39,

        ...... Not quite so .... For example, in DOSAAF training aviation centers, they immediately started on the L-29 ..... It is necessary to immediately prepare the Air Force cadets on jet engines (YAK-130) ..... At the Air Force schools started on the L-39, then on the profile in military vehicles .... hi
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 27 January 2015 18: 54 New
          +1
          Quote: aleks 62
          ...... Not quite so .... For example, in DOSAAF training aviation centers, they immediately started on the L-29 ..... It is necessary to immediately prepare the Air Force cadets on jet engines (YAK-130) ..... At the Air Force schools started on the L-39, then on the profile in military vehicles ....

          Проблема в том, что учебно-боевой Як-130 вышел более сложным и дорогим, чем изначально учебная "элка". Так что прежде чем сажать в него курсанта, нужно потренировать его "на кошках". Заодно и отсеять непригодных.
          1. aleks 62
            aleks 62 28 January 2015 10: 15 New
            0
            Проблема в том, что учебно-боевой Як-130 вышел более сложным и дорогим, чем изначально учебная "элка". Так что прежде чем сажать в него курсанта, нужно потренировать его "на кошках". Заодно и отсеять непригодных.

            ......Сложный и дорогой понятие условное.....Вообше подготовка летчика занятие дорогое....Разница в пилотировании реактивного и поршневого довольно большая....Стоимость самолета сильно зависит от количества серии, чем больше серия ,тем дешевле самолет....При производстве самолетов используется очень большое количество разных прибамбасов(стапелей,кондукторов,приспособ и т.п)...Их количество может доходит до нескольких сот единиц....А тренироваться надо для начала на тренажерах,благо сейчас современные тренажеры позволяют вполне хорошо отработать взлет -посадка и координацию......По поводу чешкской "элки" - довольно дорогая машина была,как впрочем и вся импортная техника ( к примеру стоимость гражданского Л-410 (15мест) была около 700тыс.руб., а наш АН-24 (48-52 мест) -640 тыс.... hi
            1. Alexey RA
              Alexey RA 28 January 2015 12: 02 New
              0
              Quote: aleks 62
              ...... A complicated and expensive concept is conditional ..... Generally, training a pilot is an expensive task .... The difference in piloting a jet and piston is quite large .... The cost of an airplane depends heavily on the number of series, the larger the series, the cheaper aircraft .... In the manufacture of aircraft used a very large number of different gadgets (slipways, conductors, adapt, etc.) ... Their number can reach several hundred units .... But you need to train to start with simulators, good Now modern simulators allow quite well to work off-landing and coordination .....

              Камрад, всё это хорошо и бла-ародно, но вот проблема: ни один тренажёр не способен передать ощущения реального самолёта. Подсознательно курсант на тренажёре уверен, что это всё понарошку, реально с ним ничего не случится - он рулит "кучкой пикселей".
              How many cases have already been described when a cadet who knew the theory and had excellent results on the ground lost himself in the air and made things that he could not repeat on the ground later. smile
  4. Samaritan
    Samaritan 27 January 2015 10: 02 New
    +1
    Congratulations, news plus!
    1. Penelope
      Penelope 27 January 2015 11: 13 New
      +1
      A nice airplane turned out.
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  5. TurboSloN
    TurboSloN 27 January 2015 10: 02 New
    +4
    Чувство юмора как всегда на высоте! "Птичка"!!!))) Хорошая новость!
  6. Nevsky_ZU
    Nevsky_ZU 27 January 2015 10: 03 New
    -2
    It is planned that the new machine will be a piston with a diesel power unit. Flying on it will allow young pilots to quickly and easily master the jet Yak-130


    Это что, грубо говоря, "летающая парта" для "летающей парты"!?

    We have a good budget)) I'm not special, but is it really a piston compulsory level in training?

    When Mig-35 in the series will be allowed crying
    1. andr327
      andr327 27 January 2015 10: 06 New
      +8
      ABC book first. and then a book to read!
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        1. saag
          saag 27 January 2015 10: 13 New
          +2
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          Then you need a hang glider so that the cadet feels height and self-confidence

          Parachute
      2. saturn.mmm
        saturn.mmm 27 January 2015 10: 17 New
        +7
        Quote: andr327
        ABC book first. and then a book to read!

        There are thousands of them for Russia, and not only for Russia, and not only in military schools, it is necessary to create air clubs, something similar to the DSAF. Then the second stage, to establish the production of An-2 type aircraft, Russia is a huge country and the future is with air communications.
      3. aleks 62
        aleks 62 27 January 2015 11: 35 New
        0
        ABC book first. and then a book to read!

        ..... Too expensive primer will work .... hi
    2. 78bor1973
      78bor1973 27 January 2015 10: 16 New
      +6
      Необходимо возраждать движение "Комсомолец на самолёт!" И строить вот такие птички, в массовом порядке, для ДОСААФ.
      1. saag
        saag 27 January 2015 10: 28 New
        +2
        Quote: 78bor1973
        Необходимо возраждать движение "Комсомолец на самолёт!"

        Yeah, first, the Komsomol to begin to revive :-) And for this in general it will be necessary to change the social system, because in capitalism the Komsomol will no longer be :-)
    3. donavi49
      donavi49 27 January 2015 10: 49 New
      +7
      MiG-29M soon if they don’t cut it in the budget. Hindu MiG-35 demonstrator - never, because there you need a lot of dollars to develop, and the Hindu investor fell away.


      Yes, this is rude for INITIAL PREPARATION. That is, to learn the basics. In principle, AZs can also be mastered on 130 - the flight cost will be several times higher and the risks of breaking a bird too.

      Cost effective.

      Plus, the aircraft has good commercial potential for aviation clubs.
      1. Mityasha
        Mityasha 27 January 2015 11: 14 New
        +2
        Mig-35 is already morally obsolete by the time of its release and adoption. He is now already old. Mikoyanovtsy need to move in the direction of the 5th generation. Generation 4 ++ is already firmly and permanently occupied by Sukhovtsy. Yes, and Ilyushin must be raised. Many planes do not exist ...
        1. van50man
          van50man 27 January 2015 12: 34 New
          +1
          ... with our open spaces and without aviation? They did not learn how to build roads, so at least they would develop aviation! With such baggage (aircraft designers, technologists, flight experience ...). Everything in OSAVIAHIM! Everything is in (not ON) the air!
          1. Wedmak
            Wedmak 27 January 2015 12: 58 New
            +1
            with our open spaces and without aviation?

            Yes! Where is the small aircraft? Where is my personal car? I’ll take a seaplane, fishing is more convenient to fly.
      2. aleks 62
        aleks 62 27 January 2015 11: 37 New
        +1
        In principle, AZs can also be mastered at 130ke - the flight cost will be several times higher and the risks of breaking a bird too.

        ..... In principle, in order not to break the bird, there are simulators .... And modern simulators give a 99% sense of flight, especially to work off take-off and landing ..... Cheap and cheerful .... hi
    4. aleks 62
      aleks 62 27 January 2015 11: 34 New
      0
      ....Невский.....С такими коментами полегче ....."Летчики"не поймут....А вообще твой коммент в самую дырочку.... laughing ... For an hour, he is not a flyer ??? hi
      1. Mityasha
        Mityasha 27 January 2015 12: 13 New
        +1
        IMHO You can start flying on a piston, flights, they are not superfluous. The task of the initial training is to give the skill of take-off and landing, performing elementary flights, not difficult aerobatics. Only then complication and training in instrumental flight and BPR. On the Yak -130, it will be difficult for the cadet to work with the MFP on the first flights. Americans learn on screws first, then complicate. Brazilian toucan flies normally in the air force.
    5. Alejandro
      Alejandro 27 January 2015 13: 59 New
      +1
      I’m not special either, but I think that it’s just about saving. Than to spend on the initial training resource expensive Yak-130, it is cheaper to use an inexpensive Yak-152. And when the cadets learn to fly in an elementary way, you can switch to a more complex and expensive car.
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  8. Ze Kot
    Ze Kot 27 January 2015 10: 05 New
    +3
    It looks like a WWII plane, only modernized.
  9. Victor p
    Victor p 27 January 2015 10: 06 New
    +2
    the car will be a piston with a diesel power unit.
    Probably from the same series that will be installed on heavy drones
  10. DIVAN SOLDIER
    DIVAN SOLDIER 27 January 2015 10: 09 New
    +3
    This is flash3 of the Second World War, current with electronics ..
    1. MBA78
      MBA78 27 January 2015 10: 28 New
      0
      it is necessary that on may 9 flew
  11. fzr1000
    fzr1000 27 January 2015 10: 11 New
    +1
    Diesel is good, only whose will it be?
    1. Nayhas
      Nayhas 27 January 2015 10: 29 New
      +1
      Quote: fzr1000
      Diesel is good, only whose will it be?

      Немецкий RED Aircraft A03 V12, но как бы не совсем немецкий. Компанию RED aircraft GmbH основал Владимир Райхлин как пишут "известный в мире моторист и автогонщик". Как понимаю он гражданин ФРГ, но из переселенцев (если не прав, то прошу поправить).
      1. fzr1000
        fzr1000 27 January 2015 11: 19 New
        +1
        Prav. It seems that he has not officially refused.
        1. Nayhas
          Nayhas 27 January 2015 12: 15 New
          +3
          Quote: fzr1000
          It seems he has not yet officially refused.

          Duc such a contract ... and money and advertising ... that's just the officials will announce to him to stop ... and stop, where will it go ...
  12. saag
    saag 27 January 2015 10: 11 New
    0
    Austrian diesel or what?
    1. Felix
      Felix 27 January 2015 10: 17 New
      0
      engines in general, everything seems to be imported - initially it was designed for our star-shaped M-14X, but judging by the fairing of the layout, the M-14 will not fit in any way.
  13. AID.S
    AID.S 27 January 2015 10: 13 New
    +1
    The tribe in DOSAAF began to study, - maybe he can fly on such ...
    1. Nitarius
      Nitarius 27 January 2015 10: 35 New
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      I myself would learn to fly like that!
  14. lis-ik
    lis-ik 27 January 2015 10: 15 New
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    Modern diesel engines certainly achieved impressive performance, but didn’t hear anything about our developments in this area, again imported?
  15. DIVAN SOLDIER
    DIVAN SOLDIER 27 January 2015 10: 19 New
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    А для обучения на пак да , построют что "илью муромца".
    1. Mityasha
      Mityasha 27 January 2015 11: 17 New
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      For training, the Yak-152, then the Yak-130, and then specialization are built on the pack. It will always be so, otherwise they would start cooking at the school.wink
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  17. creak
    creak 27 January 2015 10: 22 New
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    Quote: sanya.vorodis

    А что - фотографии 152-го не нашлось - 130-й прилепили?"ВО" - замечательный сайт, но такие "ляпы"...не украшают


    Действительно ляпы никого не украшают и вы не исключение.... ЯК-130 - учебно-боевой РЕАКТИВНЫЙ самолет с точками подвески вооружения, а не поршневой.Если вам доводилось видеть реактивный самолет с винтом - поделитесь где...На снимках именно поршневой самолет, на нем даже написали ЯК-152 для "особо продвинутых специалистов"... yes
    1. Ilyathebest
      Ilyathebest 28 January 2015 10: 43 New
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      Jet aircraft with a propeller - MiG-13, Su-5 wink
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  18. Teberii
    Teberii 27 January 2015 10: 32 New
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    And we don’t already build sports cars?
  19. Nayhas
    Nayhas 27 January 2015 10: 33 New
    +8
    The engine issue is very important. RED Aircraft A03 V12 is, as it were, German and made in Germany, is Reichlin ready to transfer production to the Russian Federation? In theory, RED Aircraft GmbH products are subject to sanctions as dual-use products ...
    1. desertfox
      desertfox 27 January 2015 12: 02 New
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      Wow, what a beauty! But something is not believed that Reichlin organizes a full production cycle with us ...
  20. Nitarius
    Nitarius 27 January 2015 10: 36 New
    +1
    it would be nice to develop CIVIL and small private AIRLINE!
  21. chibikus
    chibikus 27 January 2015 10: 37 New
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    AAAA .... I want this))) Once upon a time there was an interesting MIG AT plane. Something is completely inaudible about him, no one in the courses what happened to him?
  22. _Alexei_
    _Alexei_ 27 January 2015 10: 52 New
    +1
    Do we need to do our own engine?
    1. Nayhas
      Nayhas 27 January 2015 11: 08 New
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      Quote: _Alexey_
      Do we need to do our own engine?

      In the USSR, piston aircraft engines stopped developing after the war with the onset of the jet era. In the west, small aviation was developed and there was a need for both engines and airplanes. But of course, they mainly made TVDs, pistons of only low power, monsters like Pratt & Whitney R-4360 Wasp Major were not needed ...
      Therefore, it makes no sense to start producing aircraft engines from scratch, it’s easier to buy ...
  23. Aleksandr1959
    Aleksandr1959 27 January 2015 11: 23 New
    +1
    Красивая "птичка"!!! Это не убоище 90-х, называемое "Авиатикой". Тоже предназначалось для первоначальной летной подготовки. Но, еще при попытке протолкнуть его на испытания в 929 ГЛИЦ, выяснилось, что двигатель на некоторых режимах может заглохнуть, может потом не запуститься. Что означало полеты в районе ВПП...не более двух самолетов. Простояли, помню, два экземпляра на приангарной стоянке....очень долго.
  24. uge.garik
    uge.garik 27 January 2015 11: 29 New
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    To many, the aircraft they need - price, quality, applicability, affordability, simplicity ... the turn will be on the acquisition ..!
  25. Irokez
    Irokez 27 January 2015 11: 31 New
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    Quote: Nayhas
    Therefore, it makes no sense to start producing aircraft engines from scratch, it’s easier to buy ...

    Либералы точно так же думали "Зачем делать когда можно за границей купить" и вот приплыли, что всё обрезается по всем каналам. Если не всё, то в любом случае надо иметь свой аналог по основным направлениям, а уж в авиации и космосе надо только своё иметь и разрабатывать и опыть не терять, а поддерживать. Заводы есть и инженеры была бы воля руководителей и совесть менеджеров определяющих где, сколько и по чём.
  26. ilya_oz
    ilya_oz 27 January 2015 11: 59 New
    -1
    Finally, replace the Czech junk L-39.
  27. Sealek
    Sealek 27 January 2015 13: 38 New
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    Quote: ilya_oz
    Finally, replace the Czech junk L-39.

    L - 39 are planned to be replaced by the Yak - 130.

    On the topic, it’s not difficult to see the site of Yakovlev Design Bureau http://www.yak.ru/FIRM/arch_news.php?item=348

    Aerodynamics, avionics, chassis, escape system - everything is clear and is mass-produced. I still had a question about the engine, like everyone else - it is planned to use a diesel engine running on kerosene, but I have never met any justification for its advantages over domestic light theater (they are in the series).
  28. Russian Patriot
    Russian Patriot 27 January 2015 14: 00 New
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    Well, now everything will be as usual - the bird will go into service when the cancer on the mountain whistles. Is it really impossible to do everything in Russia faster?
  29. Wolka
    Wolka 27 January 2015 14: 21 New
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    этакий хороший "воробышек" будет очень кстати, будем ждать...
  30. rosomaha
    rosomaha 27 January 2015 14: 51 New
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    and on its base you can create a light drummer .. like AT-6 or RS-9
  31. GDV
    GDV 27 January 2015 17: 09 New
    -1
    It would be better if the 141st were reanimated, the airfield is a vulnerable target, several high-precision strikes and equipment will not be able to fly into the air, the 141st take-off is not needed.