In Germany, a former teacher was court fined for painting a swastika on the wall of a municipality

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A former primary school teacher in one of the comprehensive schools of Hesse (Germany), 52-year-old disabled person Ralph Bender was convicted by a local court for painting over a swastika image he saw on the wall of one of the administrative buildings. The Hessian court ordered the former teacher to pay a fine “for damage to municipal property”.

In Germany, a former teacher was court fined for painting a swastika on the wall of a municipality


Edition "Russian Germany" reports that, moving in his wheelchair, Ralph Bender saw an image of a swastika and a xenophobic inscription on a municipal building. After that, he appealed to the local authorities so that they would react and remove the neo-Nazi symbols. A few days after the appeal of Ralph Bender, the swastika remained on the wall of the building. Then the former teacher simply took a spray can and painted over the swastika and the extremist appeals of the local Nazis.

Judge Bettin Kilian decided that the act of the former teacher was pulling a fine of about 1040 euros. At the same time, the judge stated that the court would not punish Ralph Bender, if he had not painted the swastika with paint, and either scraped it off the wall, or sealed it with a piece of white paper. Striking logic. Why, then, did the local municipality employees not bother to remove the swastika from the building in which they work?

This story made a lot of noise in Germany. Newspaper reporters Rhein zeitung reported that they opened a special account for receiving funds from those who decide to help the former teacher pay a fine, and also file a retaliatory claim against local municipal employees for supporting Nazism.
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  1. +115
    4 January 2015 16: 22
    apparently grandfather, managed to tell his grandson something clever ...
    1. +62
      4 January 2015 16: 25
      Here it is the notorious Western tolerance, the tolerance of official authorities to the Nazis of all stripes.
      1. -77
        4 January 2015 16: 31
        Quote: Giant thought
        Here it is the notorious Western tolerance, the tolerance of official authorities to the Nazis of all stripes.


        Read carefully the court fined him not for tolerance, but for damage to municipal property, that is, for his "graffiti".
        1. +26
          4 January 2015 17: 19
          RUSS
          Read carefully the court fined him not for tolerance, but for damage to municipal property, that is, for his "graffiti".


          Russian Germany

          ... Noticing another neo-Nazi campaign, he informed the city authorities about this, and after a couple of days, making sure that the result was still zero, he spray-painted it with black paint ...
          ... This went on for several weeks, during which lampposts, road signs and walls of the buildings of the glorious city of Limburg (namely, there the neo-Nazis most often paste their "isoproducts") began to be covered with copies of the "Black Square" by Kazimir Malevich ...
          ... district judge Bettina Kilian, who examined last week the lawsuit of Limburg Ordnungsamt against Ralph Bender. “The defendant would have escaped responsibility if he scraped these images or pasted them with blank sheets of the same format,” the judge read her decision. - And in this case it does not matter what purpose the defendant pursued. The court emphasizes that this is not about punishment, but about reimbursement of expenses incurred by the city in connection with the implementation of work to eliminate the consequences of its actions "...


          The guy just picked up the wrong call! winked
          1. +19
            4 January 2015 18: 00
            Clear evidence that Germany was and remains under the heel of the masters of the world. What they want, they do it. It is said to revive Nazi fascism - they revive, and they will not say hello to anyone who impedes.
            1. +2
              5 January 2015 22: 41
              this is true, in Munich, not far from the famous stadium, there is the Bandera hostel where Stepan Bandera's close associates lived and live (of those who were still alive)! Allocated him to the German authorities after surrender. If my memory serves me right, this hostel was financed in the flesh before the global crisis of 2004 of the year by the German authorities.
              1. 0
                6 January 2015 10: 52
                I apologize for the 2008 crisis of the year !!!
          2. +3
            4 January 2015 23: 29
            anfil :) removed the language from ProColor) ...
            Judge Bettina is too perfection. Niggling ...

            Now let him take it ... and SAMA paints it ...)
        2. +9
          4 January 2015 19: 00
          Quote: RUSS
          not for tolerance, but for damage to municipal property, that is, for its "graffiti".

          Well, yes - it was not enough to remove the inscription of the mind (or desire ?!) ourselves! .. The folk proverb is still true: "the fish rots from the head .."
        3. +2
          4 January 2015 19: 29
          But you just wanted the court to recognize the insult to the Nazi symbols as legal, Ocst!
        4. +9
          4 January 2015 19: 37
          Well, yes, there’s no need to fool around, he was fined precisely for painting up the fascist swastika, which means that the current government in Germany continues the work of his teacher.
        5. +6
          4 January 2015 20: 17
          Read carefully-a man with a capital letter expressed his protest against neo-fascism and the inaction of the authorities.
        6. +3
          4 January 2015 22: 02
          It is written that "for damage to property", but in fact that they would not dare to touch and even more so to wash. And there they will slowly begin to draw swastikas officially. It starts small. Look at "Besogon TV" where Mikhalkov (I don't like Mikhalkov, but I agree with this) talks about telrance.
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        9. +1
          4 January 2015 23: 59
          What did the Nazi court for the swastika not fined and made a submission to the municipality
        10. Yuzver
          +4
          5 January 2015 04: 53
          In vain did they infect a person. In this case, he is absolutely right. This is a feature of the mentality of Western man. It doesn't matter from Western Europe or North America. There, the law is above all, because of which one can often hear about completely absurd in the opinion of Russian court decisions.
          Why municipal officials did not respond appropriately to Ralph Bender's appeal is a separate issue. The teacher himself really violated the law there. It’s just strange that they immediately reacted to him, but did not react to his initial appeal about the detected swastika.
          In general, one can also say about the inevitability of the law in East Asia. This in Russia is not often guided not by law, but by something else (understanding, pity, or something else without a clue. I do not intend to discuss this). Just a different mentality.
          1. 0
            6 January 2015 18: 18
            I agree with you, Yuzver. Bureaucrats do not like the initiative from below, nor the form of its manifestation. Now we do not know and do not understand this logic. Perhaps the German officials suffered nastiness at the place of their work in favor of the investigation, which had already found the suspects and was preparing for their death by injection of ordnung, and the pensioner took it, and the whole idea was broken. Also, I suppose, I dribbled acrylic paint on marble in old age. Shtrafonuli half-pension initiative.

            Hence the moral - we doobandalism anonymously.
          2. 0
            6 January 2015 22: 37
            No, and in Russia there are similar solutions. In my apartment building, various words were written on the wall. Written by someone. I, as the chairman of the HOA, was fined by the inspection because I did not keep the facade of the house in a clean state, she (the inspection) recognized the inscriptions as dirt. I challenged the inspection decision in court, but lost the case. As a result, 5000 rubles went to state revenue.
        11. +1
          6 January 2015 02: 20
          He painted three letters on the wall and the court fined you for damaging the municipal property))
      2. +53
        4 January 2015 16: 31

        To hell with tolerance!
        1. +2
          4 January 2015 20: 41
          Quote: sibi
          To hell with tolerance!

          A machine gun, trophy?
      3. Viktor Kudinov
        +17
        4 January 2015 16: 36
        The question is - why comrade Bender spread rot for such a fine !!? Indeed, in essence: whether or not the swastika he painted over demanded to remove the same costs as before his stock, then after.
        1. +4
          4 January 2015 18: 33
          Quote: Victor Kudinov
          swastika demanded to remove the same costs
          They probably subtracted the area of ​​the swastika from the square area, and hung the difference on the teachers, accounting nits.
      4. +4
        4 January 2015 16: 39
        Quote: Thought Giant
        Here it is the notorious Western tolerance, the tolerance of official authorities to the Nazis of all stripes.

        Yes, no, it just shows that the bureaucrats are the same everywhere. As long as they don’t put the ** bon on top, they won’t move much.
        1. Kassandra
          +2
          4 January 2015 17: 09
          can below ...
          1. 0
            5 January 2015 15: 27
            Below is more reliable. It will be more true and intelligible!
      5. +1
        4 January 2015 16: 51
        Here it is rather necessary to understand if the facade was, for example, faced with rare marble mined overseas, or medieval stucco, etc. In any case, the moron just shit and ruffled. The court noted that it was possible to veil and simply seek legal methods, and this is apparently a descendant of Ostap Bender, the snot begins that the former elementary school teacher, an invalid for the whole head, etc. Detained for vandalism received a fine and is free, then Jewish let's press the press. In Ukraine, Zhidobandera people are scorched alive by the Jewish-European silence, and here ..
        1. +12
          4 January 2015 18: 08
          Dear, you somehow read strange. The normal reaction of a normal person. About the judge: the law is that drawbar, even in Germany.
          1. +1
            4 January 2015 18: 28
            Colleague, leave the Germans alone, they are bureaucrats in life, Bander is the Jewish surname of immigrants from Moldova, lives dependent on a German worker, rides a stroller around the city and smears wall paint, was caught red-handed and fined. Here the eprst was lit. There is a war burning people alive, harassing Russian children, and then a crazy Jew smudges walls and so much attention, so many angry comments. Do not worry for this unfortunate Germany pays a pension and social security so much that you have never dreamed of, a piece of euro is a trifle for him.
            1. +2
              4 January 2015 19: 15
              grunt, do not anger me ...
              1. +1
                4 January 2015 19: 36
                What are your periods?
              2. +5
                4 January 2015 19: 55
                Quote: sabakina
                grunt, do not anger me ...


              3. +5
                4 January 2015 22: 33
                Quote: sabakina
                grunt, do not anger me ...

                The answer is very simple - you are at me with an ax - I am at you - with a machine.

                If I were in the place of the carrier, I would spread it on a pile of blood and a pool of bones.

                And it would be a lesson for all followers - the first to take up arms - would be killed
                1. +2
                  7 January 2015 14: 38
                  Berkut-UA, and where did you get the idea that I have an ax at hand? The video is not mine and the video is not me ... You would have thought before you write ... or write ... Well, there you decide then ...
            2. +9
              4 January 2015 20: 26
              The unfortunate people who walk past the swastikas on the wall turning their heads. Such an ostrich position led to the tragedy of May 2 .. They hid all over the holes ....
              1. +6
                4 January 2015 20: 46
                Quote: dmi.pris
                The unfortunate people who walk past the swastikas on the wall turning their heads. Such an ostrich position led to the tragedy of May 2 .. They hid all over the holes ....

                I agree. Silent means consent. If someone silently passes by the swastika or by another swine, then he is bent and he agrees to be cattle, forgive the word. But it is so.
            3. +2
              4 January 2015 21: 22
              MAN has painted a swastika, a symbol of fascism, under the slogan of which millions of people were destroyed, burned in furnaces. (I write with a lowercase letter, you don’t pull for more) And you call him a pph? And who are you after that?
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              2. +1
                4 January 2015 23: 56
                By the way, here is a symbol of Mussolini’s fascism - Roman fascin (do not break the bars if they are not alone). In Germany, there was no fascism, but National Socialism ruled where there was a corresponding symbol in honor, which you believe in socialism, was not closer than during the time of the Red Terror against the Russians. So for general development, a lover of pentograms and helmets.
            4. +3
              4 January 2015 23: 18
              For such abuse of the victims of fascism, if the authorities did not remove this dirty trick, you can not only paint over it, but also blow up this wall so that memory returns.
        2. +2
          4 January 2015 19: 34
          Quote: hrych
          Here it is rather necessary to understand if the facade was, for example, faced with rare marble mined overseas, or medieval stucco, etc. In any case, the moron just shit and ruffled. The court noted that it was possible to veil and simply seek legal methods

          No, not just a veil. The news offers two options. I quote: "... or scraped off it from the wall, or pasted over with a sheet of white paper ... ". I suppose that scraping is also spoiling. It turns out that one damage is legitimate, and the other (paint over the inscription) is not. Wonderful.
          1. +1
            4 January 2015 19: 38
            It’s wonderful that everyone was led to such nonsense.
            1. 0
              5 January 2015 00: 04
              In Ukraine, everything also began with trifles and how it ended, so this is not rubbish, it is better to destroy it in the bud
              1. +1
                5 January 2015 00: 16
                You are welcome to look for a germ in Himmler’s homeland.
      6. +2
        4 January 2015 17: 10
        Quote: Giant thought
        Here it is the notorious Western tolerance, the tolerance of official authorities to the Nazis of all stripes.

        And I think that this "pictorial work" has a direct relationship to the members of the composition of the court. And some of the ancestors fought on the Eastern Front.
      7. TECHNOLOGY
        +1
        4 January 2015 22: 06
        Does fascism in Germany wake up? However ...
        1. +3
          5 January 2015 10: 00
          What does wake up mean? He is already fully awake in Europe. While there were winners and the losers, everything was clear. Now times have changed and some of the winners decided to correct the story. The Baltic glorifies the Nazis liberators and curses the Soviet occupiers, Ukraine praises the heroes of the SS, officials in England say that Hitler was bad, but there were special circumstances, he says he defended Europe from the red plague, only his methods were a little harsh (but something like that ... I just didn't find another recipe - I did a little hack-work), however, for a just cause (adjusted for the time and place of action), this is quite possible, unlike the tyrant of the bloodsucker Stalin. And the fact that London was bombed is bad, but it's like in any family between brothers, nothing more than a usual quarrel. In the United States, they officially declare (they have become in the last two decades) that both sides were wrong in that situation, but Hitler attacked, but attacked in defense, preventing the inevitable aggression from the USSR and the tyrant of the bloodsucker Stalin against Mother Europe, i.e. ... as if "allowed", but at the same time had the right to do so. Such a very slippery ambiguous rhetoric. They even have a memorial condemning Stalinism and others like him, but I don’t remember a memorial condemning Nazism and Hitler in particular (I could be wrong, of course, correct if anyone is in the subject). As for Germany ... Put yourself in the shoes of the Germans. They were 70 years old were told that they did not do well, that they had unleashed a war, forced to pass laws against that shameful page of their history, ordered to pay tribute to Jews for burning them in furnaces (but for some reason only Jews, although Russians died many times more Yes). They accepted it and measured it. And what do they see now? Those who forced them to do this all began to say completely different words, to close their eyes to the "pranks" of the neo-Nazis of the Baltic states, to outright Nazism in Ukraine, to the condemnation of their brother in arms by the "allies" of the USSR. Now Germany is the leading economy in Europe and naturally they see that all dirty tricks can do this, and why can't we Germans? Moreover, this is our story, it turns out that we were not so wrong as we were told before (this is also recognized by those who spoke). There is a revision of the results of the Second World War and comes first of all with the filing of the "winners" and their duty connivance. To expect that where there was the very nest of fascism, in such greenhouse fertilized conditions, it will not begin to awaken is very stupid.
      8. +2
        5 January 2015 03: 28
        the teacher did not know that the grandfather of the judge was a Gestapo!
      9. nikay69
        0
        5 January 2015 11: 50
        They call it - "democracy"!
      10. Kapitan Oleg
        +1
        5 January 2015 12: 08
        This is not only in Germany.
        Just the night before yesterday I watched on a channel (some Euro ...) a documentary film about a U-480 submarine that died from a mine somewhere in the English Channel in 1944. The boat was discovered recently. Only one grandfather survived, a crew member who did not go on this campaign. I looked and was surprised at the method of presentation of the material. The boat and crew were served as Heroes! On account of these heroes are a lot of sunk ships of the Allies! They were served as having fulfilled their duty! I understand that the military man is doing his duty in war, but here it’s completely different! One conclusion is that Nazism has not disappeared, it has transformed, repainted, and strides in its development by a victorious step across Europe and the whole world! Soon they will begin to erect monuments to Hitler, Goering, Goebbels, I have no doubt about this.
      11. +1
        6 January 2015 15: 33
        History repeats itself: at one time, Hitler and the Nazis were raised by British intelligence in order to incite Germany to the USSR (Stalin scared Britain and the USA with his five-year plans so that they figured out the numbers and trends and realized that by the middle of the 20th century both the USA and Europe would become for the USSR nothing more than vicious mongrels). The bottom line is that if Russia is not interfered with, then Russia is simply doomed to become the strongest power in the world, moreover, the "Russian spirit" (remember Russian fairy tales) is such that Russia, with its strength, will ensure security for all countries and completely eliminate any wars (i.e. redivision of the world by force will not be possible), which means that bandit and parasitic countries (such as Britain and the United States) will simply die themselves sooner or later, or they will be reformatted from bandit countries to civilized countries. Naturally, the local elites, who, apart from robbing and destroying nothing else, will be useless, and the "Western" Rothschilds and other "meatballs" will be destroyed by the local population itself. In general, Russia for the West is an incorruptible executioner for a murderer! Now the United States is raising Nazis again, but already throughout Europe (the Second World War showed that even half of Europe is not capable of "overwhelming" the Russians) - and this is already an attempt number "3" (1 and 2 World were the first two attempts, except for the campaigns of the crusaders to Russia). Believe me, for the West, the problem of Russia has not been solved, which means that world wars will continue until either Russia destroys the West (just to survive), or the West does not destroy Russia. In the coming world war, Russia is likely to inflict a crushing defeat on the West, after which the West will be reformatted "at the root" in accordance with the "Russian spirit." There are grounds for this - the melting of glaciers in the Arctic provides the widest and safest access to the sea for Russia, moreover, the borders of Britain and the United States are completely bare (Canada is also the United States). And North America is becoming bare on all three sides. That is why both the United States and Britain are so "worried" that the North Pole is melting, hence the "strange" claims of the Scandinavians to the entire northern shelf of the Arctic. The melting of glaciers in general makes Russia a maritime power, along with a continental country it is also becoming a maritime one = the defensive ability of the "Russian winter" will now act at sea as well. There will be a third world war, no doubt about it.
    2. +17
      4 January 2015 16: 31
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      apparently grandfather, managed to tell his grandson something clever

      I even know what my grandfather (perhaps even a Wehrmacht veteran) said to the German teacher - "God save you from Nazism! The Nazis sooner or later begin to fight with Russia. But this is already suicide! "
      1. +2
        4 January 2015 17: 10
        Yes, in my opinion they forgot what Nazism is ... Although the people of the old-timers still remember the former regime well, and the young people - how do they know ...
    3. +4
      4 January 2015 16: 31
      We need such People!
    4. Debryansk
      +4
      4 January 2015 16: 43
      The fine is not frail for myself, I think a retaliatory lawsuit against the municipality can be satisfied by the court if there are no descendants of the Nazis in the court.
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    7. +5
      4 January 2015 17: 23
      give the account number! I will support the teacher !!!
      1. +1
        5 January 2015 08: 45
        Here are the details from the original article
        IBAN: DE79 511519190000719724, Kontoinhaber: Ralf Jürgen Bender, Verwendungszweck: Engagement gegen Rechts.
        I do not know how to use them, look for it yourself)))))

        Link to the article
        http://www.rhein-zeitung.de/region/lokales/diez_artikel,-Lehrer-ueberspruehte-Na
        zischmierereien-in-Limburg-Er-muss-zahlen-% 5BUpdate% 5D-_arid, 1244714.html # .VKoij
        oF_s3s

        Here, another five pages will be measured by the authorities, in fact, you will not wait for things ...
        1. 0
          5 January 2015 21: 58
          thanks. I think I’ll figure it out.
    8. 0
      4 January 2015 18: 10
      and to file a lawsuit against local municipal employees for supporting Nazism.
      But this is a very necessary matter, because it can become indicative!
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    10. +2
      4 January 2015 19: 46
      It was necessary not to paint over, but to write in Russian ten-story.
    11. hly
      +2
      4 January 2015 20: 35
      had to paint hi
    12. 0
      5 January 2015 05: 38
      You know, not all Germans, well, Germans or something (who should have everything on the shelves, you can do it by the rules, but not) - there are a lot of smart people with a soul who live not by the rules, but by conscience. You know, in childhood we played war games - and so when it was necessary to divide into ours and Germans - these were always fights screams of swearing. Funny Germans themselves did not want to be Germans (fascists) - they understood that it was bad - maybe he didn’t want to be bad in childhood
    13. 0
      5 January 2015 18: 16
      grandfather remembers what Nazism is ....
  2. +15
    4 January 2015 16: 23
    Judge Bettin Kilian decided that the act of the former teacher draws a fine of approximately 1040 euros. At the same time, the judge stated that the court would not have punished Ralph Bender if he hadn’t painted the swastika with paint, or had scraped it off the wall or sealed it with a piece of white paper. Amazing logic.
    And they say that it’s impossible to understand Russia with the mind ... Immediately in general ...
    1. +4
      4 January 2015 16: 32
      Merkel Schwanderka will play out that banderlogs will come and do Europe what they did in Odessa on May 2.
    2. +1
      4 January 2015 16: 36
      Well, the classic just gave acceleration for the "minds of generations"! .. You will not be able to understand Russia with your mind ... Relax ... It will be faster and .. you will be "strong in hindsight" Yes
  3. +3
    4 January 2015 16: 24
    but generally encouraging .... good
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  5. +12
    4 January 2015 16: 24
    liberalism in action
    Germany will soon speak Arabic with its tolerance
    .
    1. -13
      4 January 2015 16: 32
      Quote: MainBeam
      liberalism in action
      Germany will soon speak Arabic with its tolerance
      .


      What does it have to do with tolerance? They fined him for spray-painting the wall, and not for covering up fascist symbols.
      1. +14
        4 January 2015 16: 54
        Quote: RUSS
        What does tolerance have to do with it?

        I mean that the swastika hung for a week on the German office building.
        There would be no "tolerance" - they would have erased it immediately, as they noticed.
        And here, and grandfather wrote an official letter, but the symbolism was not removed on its own.

        That’s what tolerance has to do with it.
        .
        1. +5
          4 January 2015 17: 02
          Quote: MainBeam
          I mean that the swastika hung for a week on the German office building.
          There would be no "tolerance" - they would have erased it immediately, as they noticed.


          Nazi symbols are prohibited in Germany.
          1. -3
            4 January 2015 17: 10
            Quote: RUSS
            prohibited

            So I'm talking about "tolerance" and government officials and passers-by to this symbolism
            Or do you think this is not tolerance, but nonsense?
            .
            1. +1
              4 January 2015 17: 18
              Quote: MainBeam
              So I'm talking about "tolerance" and government officials and passers-by to this symbolism
              Or do you think this is not tolerance, but nonsense?
              .


              Rather, do not care, they simply "hammered" on the symbols, and the teachers were punished only for the fact that you can definitely get a fine from him and repair the wall, and from those who wrote fascist symbols and slogans they considered that there was nothing to take from them, if only because they first you need to find, in short, in simple words - "who is the last one and dad" in this case "he pays."
              1. +3
                4 January 2015 17: 27
                Quote: RUSS
                just "hammered" on the symbolism

                How can you "score" if it is prohibited?
                The one who did not respond to the official request should answer.
                Otherwise it is called "tolerance"
                1. +2
                  4 January 2015 19: 22
                  Quote: MainBeam
                  Quote: RUSS
                  just "hammered" on the symbolism

                  How can you "score" if it is prohibited?
                  The one who did not respond to the official request should answer.
                  Otherwise it is called "tolerance"

                  Do not worry, dear, the last two letters seem to hint whose Cossack he is ...
          2. +2
            4 January 2015 19: 20
            But you are not Russian .... Well, drink it!
            Listen, RUSS MATIUS, if you were walking in the forest, otherwise the snow would fall, it would be very bad ...
            1. +2
              5 January 2015 09: 05
              Quote: sabakina
              Listen, RUSS MATIUS, if you were walking in the forest, otherwise the snow would fall, it would be really bad ..


              Hey sabakina (Sobakina), you got to the bottom of my login, but then you yourself are who? You write from yourself in the masculine gender, and the login and profile picture are female, so maybe you are a trans or transgender? Ay something?
              1. +2
                7 January 2015 14: 50
                Quote: RUSS
                Quote: sabakina
                Listen, RUSS MATIUS, if you were walking in the forest, otherwise the snow would fall, it would be really bad ..


                Hey sabakina (Sobakina), you got to the bottom of my login, but then you yourself are who? You write from yourself in the masculine gender, and the login and profile picture are female, so maybe you are a trans or transgender? Ay something?

                Today is Christmas, so I will be without insults.
                I'm straight, nickname from the game WoT, avatar-princess Akatava, which means "the one who dreams."
                For stupid and wretched, I explain: in my youth I fell in love with Princess Akatawa. Since then I have been remembered. This is bad?
                Why this particular avatar? “The one who dreams,” that is, “sees” “foresees.” Is it just that I can foresee more than you see?
                By the way, my name is Vyacheslav. Explain what this name means?
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    3. Viktor Kudinov
      +1
      4 January 2015 16: 40
      And pray in the mosques.
  6. +1
    4 January 2015 16: 26
    interestingly, now a discussion about whether it is possible to leave a swastika or similar topics? (chance or provocation?)
  7. +2
    4 January 2015 16: 26
    Yes, European laws are very two-faced!
  8. +1
    4 January 2015 16: 28
    The victim of the law is nothing more.
    1. 0
      4 January 2015 17: 28
      Quote: pomegranate
      Victim of law


      Politically lined
  9. +2
    4 January 2015 16: 30
    In Europe, with its own tolerance, the roof goes completely. And the man did well, because he knew what he was going on.
  10. +1
    4 January 2015 16: 31
    And in general, my grandfather was not fined, but he painted over the swastika, but because the administrative building was soiled with paint.
  11. +4
    4 January 2015 16: 31
    call stupid judges, say nothing! fool you yourself still on your Bosko new Hitler choose fool such decisions of judges are the beginning of the end of Germany as a strong, albeit not entirely independent state. ps = the teacher urgently needs to file a lawsuit against the judges-accuse them of aiding the Nazis in a veiled form am
  12. 0
    4 January 2015 16: 32
    Here it is, the nest of Adolf chicks, you see, the time is right to ruin this nest with chicken Merkel angry
  13. +1
    4 January 2015 16: 32
    Are you totally crazy? There are no more words ...
  14. +1
    4 January 2015 16: 38
    file a lawsuit against local municipal employees for supporting Nazism.

    Forgot Fritz May 1945
  15. 0
    4 January 2015 16: 39
    A disease on the head called "tolerance" is incurable. Is it just a bullet ...
    1. +2
      4 January 2015 17: 15
      Quote: Abbra
      A disease on the head called "tolerance" is incurable. Is it just a bullet ...

      Apparently silver.
    2. 0
      4 January 2015 20: 16
      Quote: Abbra
      Is it just a bullet ...

      A bullet? This is already aggressive intolerance.
  16. +5
    4 January 2015 16: 44
    The cancerous tumor of National Socialism gives ever-larger seedlings. If earlier - almost 2-3 years ago, Merkel strewed her head with ashes for the massacres of the period of the 3rd Reich, then now we can state the manifestation of the government’s support for the ideology of the National Assembly. In early 2014, the German state apparatus did not condemn the Nazis' rise to power in a European country, but even actively supported them. At the end of the year, he condemns the enemy of the Nazis within the country. How much is left before torchlight processions and pogroms in Berlin? A year or two? It seems to me - the monster of European fascism is actively waking up ...
  17. 0
    4 January 2015 16: 47
    Guys! read about "Train conductor Odessa-Zaporozhye", where the train conductor threw four defenders of "servile freedom" out of the carriage.
  18. Dumb
    0
    4 January 2015 16: 52
    It’s not human, somehow, to fine a disabled person,
    who showed civic consciousness. What are they smoking there?
    1. +1
      4 January 2015 17: 23
      Quote: Dumb
      Not humanly, somehow ... What are they smoking there?


      The junta Ukraine is smoking. Or they are with her.
  19. +1
    4 January 2015 16: 53
    Well, it’s already no way ... So far in Germany merkel-like, there will be such a shit. In general, it is very strange: on the one hand there is an influx of Muslims, on the other, the growth of radicalism (read Nazism). A terrible cocktail is coming out. requestAnd all against the background of jugs hitting the asphalt on the occasion of the "Holocaust."
  20. +2
    4 January 2015 16: 54
    Recently I watched a video about how the Germans ridicule the current government in Ukraine, and now I read how the former teacher is fined. Does the people understand the situation, but the authorities are controlled from the outside?
    1. lg41
      0
      4 January 2015 20: 13
      Judge Bettin Kilian defended her beliefs instilled in her by either her parents or neo-Nazi organizations during the trial.
  21. +4
    4 January 2015 16: 54
    Who, if not the 52-yearning German, the teacher, does not know about the inadequacy of some German laws and their inadequate interpretation by the court - so no, he took and did what he did !!! And not a single burgher moved before him.
    Comrade Bender - low bow !!! hi
    1. 11111mail.ru
      -1
      4 January 2015 19: 46
      Quote: ksv1973
      Comrade Bender - low bow !!!

      From Madame Gritsatsueva?
  22. +3
    4 January 2015 16: 57
    And they say, the Germans are ashamed of the Nazi past, however, the situation is one in one Ukrainian.
  23. +4
    4 January 2015 17: 04
    As a student of English, only one-merkel kaput comes to mind! stop
    1. +2
      4 January 2015 19: 49
      Quote: Major Yurik
      As a student of English, only one-merkel kaput comes to mind!

      laughing
      As a hereditary polyglot, I want to add to her address:
  24. +2
    4 January 2015 17: 04
    Such a judge only for "soap"! am Or maybe something else to pull ...
  25. +2
    4 January 2015 17: 06
    Fish goes out with the head!
  26. +8
    4 January 2015 17: 07
    Thanks to the 52-year-old German teacher, for his adherence to principles. Fascism is raising its head not only at the Ruin and in the European Union. The West does not want to notice, then it will be too late.
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  28. +10
    4 January 2015 17: 10
    I have repeatedly reminded readers of the Military Review that fascism is being revived in Germany, supported at the state level. Merkel is a transitional period. We will have to learn more and the German language and traitors-Poles to shoot again. It is clear why Stalin shot Polish officers - because they supported fascism.
    1. +4
      4 January 2015 17: 46
      Quote: Алексей_К
      I have repeatedly reminded readers of the Military Review that fascism is reviving in Germany,

      more, nobody sees this .... Yes
      1. +1
        4 January 2015 18: 56
        The bulk of the people of Russia are not even aware of this. This has never been mentioned in the Russian media. They write about Ukraine, the Baltic countries and that's it! But these are not the countries that can unleash a new Meow War in Europe. They do not make German Leopard tanks and German aircraft Eurofighter Typhoon (the fourth generation Typhoon multirole fighter), which was developed and produced by Eurofighter GmbH (Germany). Only the Germans have created an analogue of the Russian torpedo "Shkval", though a little worse. In general, the media write very little about military developments in Germany. You might think that it was not German scientists who created various versions of superweapons, which only then were ripped off by America and the USSR. And some of them still cannot repeat it.
        1. +2
          4 January 2015 19: 04
          Quote: Алексей_К
          The bulk of the people of Russia are not even aware of this.

          some people don’t want to know about it, propaganda works ....
          1. +5
            4 January 2015 19: 27
            Quote: Алексей_К
            The bulk of the people of Russia are not even aware of this. This has never been mentioned in the Russian media. They write about Ukraine, the Baltic countries and that's it! But these are not the countries that can unleash a new Meow War in Europe. They do not make German Leopard tanks and German aircraft Eurofighter Typhoon (the fourth generation Typhoon multirole fighter), which was developed and produced by Eurofighter GmbH (Germany). Only the Germans have created an analogue of the Russian torpedo "Shkval", though a little worse. In general, the media write very little about military developments in Germany. You might think that it was not German scientists who created various versions of superweapons, which only then were ripped off by America and the USSR. And some of them still cannot repeat it.

            Alexei, what are you, the ultimate truth? Or do you know what Putin does not know? So share, and we will smash ...
            1. -2
              4 January 2015 20: 32
              And didn’t I share my premonitions with you? What is happening in Germany - the revival of Nazism on the basis of anti-Islamic speeches by the ultra-right (fascists), is not fiction. Very little is said about this in our media. And government officials silently support the Nazis.
              Now
              Quote: sabakina
              Alexei, what are you, the ultimate truth?

              When you write your comments, what truth are you? Probably the first to consider yourself? Is not it?
        2. Kassandra
          0
          4 January 2015 19: 07
          Was the satellite German too and launched by Werner von Braun from NASA?

          as long as the Amerkas troops are standing there, the Germans will engage in a new warfare ...
          1. 0
            4 January 2015 20: 27
            Quote: Kassandra
            as long as the Amerkas troops are standing there, the Germans will engage in a new warfare ...

            Interestingly, the Germans know about this? Germany repented for fascism and World War II, and you are making plans for them to unleash a "war".
            1. Kassandra
              0
              4 January 2015 20: 40
              They know of course. Now there are more problems m. with Japan, which the Americans have almost unchecked.
              ... And for the first, when there was no fascism already repented too?
          2. 0
            4 January 2015 20: 37
            America will do as it benefits at a particular point in time. If Russia will ascend to the top of the political Olympus, then it will not disdain to stop Russia by any means, as it was in 1941.After all, America invested in German industry and military production of fascist Germany in the 30 of the last century.
            1. Kassandra
              0
              4 January 2015 20: 43
              it’s as if the point is that if something is like this again, now it will not be necessary to go to Berlin for 4 years now, and in order to inflict the corresponding damage on them, the United States itself will reach 20 minutes too
          3. -1
            4 January 2015 21: 10
            Quote: Kassandra
            Was the satellite German too and launched by Werner von Braun from NASA?

            Nobody believes this, just as a fascist, overthrown Germany sent a man into space. Of course, from the point of view of the victorious countries, this is propaganda of the successes of fascist Germany. Therefore, for all of humanity - this is a lie.
            But, the legends about the Third Reich space program still do not leave the pages of the yellow press. Who was the first to enter outer space? German astronaut Kurt Keller, claiming to have made a suborbital flight to the V-2 back in the 1944 year?

            Believe it or not, the victorious countries will never allow Germany’s inhuman regime superiority in this area.
            1. Kassandra
              0
              4 January 2015 21: 20
              it was about a satellite and not about suborbital jumps ... for that matter, the first and objects that traveled into outer space were long-range artillery shells in the WWII. German most likely ...
              Kurt Weller vryatli made a spacewalk. bully

              German affairs must be treated with great caution - there half of the aircraft designers got into a fight on the topic so still whose of them was the MiG-15 ... with an English engine wassat
              1. 0
                4 January 2015 22: 22
                Space is considered an altitude above 100 km. German Fau-Xnumx rose higher. And the story with Kurt Weller is also vague, like the story of the disappeared Bormann, and Hitler burned, but in holey socks. The truth has always been hidden from the common man in the USSR and in America. Who prevented Werner von Braun from creating a habitable capsule for several hours of flight. All that was needed was compressed air and a transmitter. And in my opinion, in 2-1943, even suborbital flight is a very significant achievement. In the USSR and America, rocket science in general was not then.
                1. Kassandra
                  0
                  5 January 2015 13: 00
                  In the USA - 80 km, even "Colossal" shot higher.
                  and the soft return of this capsule is a trivial question, or is it superfluous?
                  solid fuel was. it was also used in the upper steps of the first American satellite.
    2. 11111mail.ru
      0
      4 January 2015 19: 50
      Quote: Алексей_К
      Clear why Stalin shot Polish officers

      Personally? And how many pieces? Where did it happen? Witnesses of this significant event have already testified to the police? It's desirable It would be to read the answer truth-truth-truth-love ... It is desirable in the same thread. I'm waiting.
      1. -2
        4 January 2015 20: 44
        Quote: 11111mail.ru
        It would be advisable to read the answer of the truth-loving-truth-loving ..

        Katyn execution - mass killings of Polish citizens (mainly captured officers of the Polish army) carried out in the spring of 1940 by officers of the NKVD of the USSR. According to documents published in the 1992 year, the executions were carried out by decision of the “troika” of the NKVD of the USSR in accordance with the decision of the Politburo of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks of March 5 of March 1940. According to the published archival documents, a total of 21 857 Polish prisoners were shot.
        On November 26 on November 2010, the State Duma of Russia adopted a statement “On the Katyn tragedy and its victims,” which acknowledges that the mass shooting of Polish citizens in Katyn was carried out according to the direct instructions of Stalin and other Soviet leaders and is a crime of the Stalin regime.
        Read the documents of the State Duma yourself.
        1. Kassandra
          0
          4 January 2015 21: 02
          yeah, yes ... it’s only already full of articles exposing this next Gorbachev falsification.
        2. 11111mail.ru
          0
          4 January 2015 21: 45
          Quote: Алексей_К
          Katyn execution - ... ... 21 857 Polish prisoners were executed.

          In the first paragraph, you deliberately omitted the phrase, from which not only "legs grow", but also "ears are visible" of truth-tellers-truth-lovers: (Polish. zbrodnia katyńska - “Katyn crime”)... When quoting other people's materials, honest opponents give a link to the source, in your case it is "https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CA%E0%F2%FB%ED%F1%EA%E8%E9_%F0%E0 % F1% F1% F2%
          F0% E5% EB. "Otherwise it is called plagiarism.
          Quote: Алексей_К
          November 26, 2010 ... the direct instructions of Stalin and other Soviet leaders ...

          Compare your writings with the above-mentioned specific person who shot the Polish officers and this your unsubscribe (second paragraph). Find a couple of differences.
          Quote: Алексей_К
          Read the documents of the State Duma yourself.

          Read the book by Yuri Mukhin to broaden your horizons "Katyn detective"where the available facts are analyzed, namely data, and not the speculation of interested parties (the same gentlemen and their Russian litter).
          1. -1
            4 January 2015 22: 46
            Quote: 11111mail.ru
            Compare your writings with the above-mentioned specific person who shot Polish officers

            Do you dislike Wikipedia? Do not read, no one forces you. But the State Duma read genuine archival documents, and not the fabrications of some dumb old man, supposedly a witness. Now anyone can publish his book at his own expense. For example, I could announce on the Internet that I was born not in 1949, but in 1914 and personally shot Beria and everything is very plausible to describe. How do you check it?
            And here is the translation of the letter from the Poles about your Mukhin:
            “Dear Mr. Speaker,
            Members of the Parliamentary Team for the Independence of Tradition in the Sejm of the Republic of Poland call on you and the deputies of the State Duma of the Russian Federation to oppose the content of the book on Katyn, Yuri Mukhin, which is currently distributed in the Duma and which is full of lies and hatred of Poland and the Poles.
            The content of this publication does not contradict the documented historical knowledge of the crime committed in the 1940 in Katyn, Ostashkov and copper on Polish officers, police and civil servants by order of the Soviet authorities.
            The relevant documents were handed over to Poland by the Russian authorities, as well as other evidence, do not raise objections from both sides.
            The peoples of Russia and Poland, both affected by the totalitarian regimes of the 20 century, feel the need for reconciliation, cooperation and the restoration of mutual trust.
            A prerequisite for meeting this need is to tell the truth, sadly.
            The decisions to offend Poland and the Poles and the historical lies contained in the book by Yuri Mukhin raise our concern and is an obstacle to the development of bilateral relations. ”
            Warsaw, February 1 1996
            So do not use false sources yourself.
            1. +2
              4 January 2015 22: 58
              Quote: Алексей_К
              So do not use false sources yourself.

              "Plato is my friend ... But the truth is dearer ..." (c) laughing
              If you take into account - with what perseverance the Poles continue "do not wash, so by rolling" attempts to establish your reason the death of one of hobbits under Smolensky, the conclusion begs for itself - among the Poles own story both in the causes of the Second World War and in the cause of the tragedy of the Warsaw uprising, etc. etc.
              Do not believe Y. Mukhin - your right ...
              I don’t believe in the conclusions of that commission (?), Which worked under the patronage of the Polish "volunteers" who diligently took care of the Russian prosecutors.
              And to hear from the Poles "... the need for reconciliation, cooperation and restoration of mutual trust ..." is especially funny in the light of the Ukrainian events ...
            2. 11111mail.ru
              +1
              5 January 2015 05: 03
              Quote: Алексей_К
              Do you dislike Wikipedia? Do not read, no one forces you

              The question was about the use of "someone else's" information. You are a plagiarist, since you have not indicated a link to the source anywhere. At school, after all, they also taught that "cheating is not good." Shame on you?
              Quote: Алексей_К
              And here is the translation of the letter from the Poles about your Mukhin:
              “Dear Mr. Speaker,

              Panam believe = do not respect yourself. If you raised a high, it means honest arguments, like you don’t have, Yuri Ignatievich firmly attached them !. Do you trust Anatoly Wasserman? Read: http://economicsandwe.com/doc/2038/
              Quote: Алексей_К
              So do not use false sources yourself.

              And I do not advise you!
            3. Kassandra
              0
              5 January 2015 13: 03
              Well, for the first time, the old man is also a witness, but no one canceled Burdenko’s examination.
              1. 11111mail.ru
                +2
                5 January 2015 21: 11
                Quote: Kassandra
                and Burdenko’s expertise has not been canceled.

                So try to bring YOUR opinion to the pano-democrat-jo.o-kissers, including my opponent. And then since 1943 everything "Katyn, Katyn, ... Katyn", German bullets and German shell casings, paper string on the hands of the executed, undecomposed corpses from? 1940? years, the use of panuv officers at work in 1941, similar execution graves of former Italian allies near Lvov. And our shitcrats "even piss in the eyes, they are God's dew." Thanks to our DurDuma for signing the compiled documents! What a joy to be accused of an imperfect crime! So the overseas curators are holding them tightly by the balls, since they sign such nonsense! Here, about 100 thousand of ours perished in their captivity after Tukhachevsky's campaign on Warsaw, and not a single shit-crafted brat did not scratch to make claims against the gentlemen. What am I saying PANAMERICAN, one word.
  29. +2
    4 January 2015 17: 16
    Crazy Fascists.
    1. Kassandra
      +1
      4 January 2015 21: 53
      crazy ... bully
  30. +1
    4 January 2015 17: 19
    shallow German nation-Nazis have already raised their heads again
  31. +2
    4 January 2015 17: 22
    The clearer the line of Berlin with respect to the Ukrainian crisis, the more obvious is the analogy with the Germans preparing the operation "Canned Food", better known as the provocation in Gleivitz, which became the reason for the attack on Poland on 1 of September 1939
    True, the geography of events is now somewhat different and the circle of participants is not the same, but the essence remains the same: the feeling of preparations for a new war was born, and Germany does not stand aloof from it.
    Read more: http://ukraina.ru/analytics/20150104/1011701026.html

    PS: the article is very intelligent and scared from the fact that this may be true.
    1. 0
      4 January 2015 18: 50
      Quote: Nataliya
      a feeling of preparation for a new war was born, and Germany was not standing aloof from it.

      Germany?! It is very doubtful that the Poles may be Britons, but the Germans are unlikely.
  32. +2
    4 January 2015 17: 23
    In Germany, a former teacher was court fined for painting a swastika on the wall of a municipality

    Yes, this is an unhealthy gimp! Fascism really raises its head, and not only in Germany, but also in other countries! For Russia, in particular, fascist and pro-fascist organizations in Europe, which are supported by financial flows from the United States, are dangerous. Everything is like in the 30s of the last century.
    1. 0
      4 January 2015 20: 30
      Quote: Dembel 77
      For Russia, in particular, fascist and pro-fascist organizations in Europe are dangerous,

      And your own? In today's Russia there are at least fifty organizations and parties professing and preaching openly cannibalistic views. Their leaders themselves - with a few exceptions - do not call themselves Nazis, they prefer the evasive "national patriots".
      1. 0
        5 January 2015 21: 24
        And there are enough swastikas in Russia. It is enough to walk around any large city. There are also specific fascist crosses and already stylized swastikas of homegrown Natsiks. And nobody reacts to them. It's like writing 3 letters on a fence. Well, it is written and written ... So, third-rate, meaningless news suddenly, for the sake of "Russian patriotism" turns into news of the struggle of European anti-fascists with the offensive of the Nazis. and they all discuss it, build smart proposals, see symptomatology. Even smiled))
  33. +2
    4 January 2015 17: 23
    In the expression "the world has gone mad", "gone mad" I definitely want to replace with obscene words ...
  34. Tribuns
    +1
    4 January 2015 17: 29
    Priroki, they are in Germany priroki!

    Germany, which gave the world German fascism and survived all its horrors and just shame after the defeat of fascism, is gradually turning into a "country of unafraid idiots" ... with its tolerance to many vices of modern bourgeois society, where the golden calf rules ...
  35. +7
    4 January 2015 17: 39
    the article is incomplete - in the original it is indicated that Ralph Bender strongly dislikes neo-Nazis. therefore, after retirement, he began to ride in his wheelchair around the city and find the "tags" of neo-Nazis, after which he bombarded the local mayor's office with demands to eliminate neo-Nazi signs and inscriptions, and in case of an untimely response, he wrote complaints to higher authorities, i.e. ... he did the right thing. only after these "tags" remained in their places for a long time, then R. Bender painted them over, on which he got burned.
    therefore, the reasoning that a disabled man should have hung a "label" with a piece of paper is, in my opinion, a mockery of all the victims of Nazism.
  36. +5
    4 January 2015 17: 45
    Thanks to this German from me Russian !!! good
  37. artelstone
    +7
    4 January 2015 17: 53
    Well done teacher !!! He acted quite adequately. And the reaction of the authorities is very symptomatic for Europe. This is a sentence to their society.
  38. polkownik1
    +4
    4 January 2015 17: 59
    Germans and they will remain Germans. They did not paint swastikas, but temporarily sealed them with pieces of paper ...
    1. polkownik1
      +3
      4 January 2015 18: 28
      Minus the lack of tolerance for the Germans? Well then, to you in Germany, to work as a judge ...
  39. +2
    4 January 2015 18: 02
    Quote: RUSS
    Read carefully the court fined him not for tolerance, but for damage to municipal property, that is, for his "graffiti".


    Why didn't they react to the "graffiti" of the Nazis? Were you afraid? Or didn't you want to search?
    1. 0
      4 January 2015 21: 12
      Sorry minus the wrong read.
  40. 0
    4 January 2015 18: 04
    Germany's new Fuhrer - Merkel, who is trying to revive fascism in Europe
  41. 0
    4 January 2015 18: 07
    And who is he (disabled) by nationality?
  42. +6
    4 January 2015 18: 11
    Quote: polkownik1
    Germans and they will remain Germans. They did not paint swastikas, but temporarily sealed them with pieces of paper ...

    There was such a film directed by Kurt Hoffmann (Germany) in 1960, "Ghosts at the Spessard Castle", so there was such a scene when in court the judge knocks his fist on the table and plaster falls on his head, with which the swastika was smeared ... I recommend watching this film to everyone who has not seen it can watch it on YouTube
    1. 11111mail.ru
      0
      4 January 2015 19: 54
      Quote: I am human
      "Ghosts at Castle Spessard"

      Purely German humor: playing football instead of a ball with your head ...
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  44. +3
    4 January 2015 18: 25
    Europe, pretending not to see fascist manifestations, fascist demonstrations in the Baltic countries, in the EU countries, supporting Bandera fascists in Ukraine, has headed for the revival of fascism. What happened to the teacher is a fact that confirms it. Fifteen to twenty years ago, this was not possible in Germany.
    1. lg41
      0
      4 January 2015 20: 25
      The United States, as Nazism was fostered in Europe in the 20th century, continues this act in the 21st
  45. act
    act
    +2
    4 January 2015 18: 29
    The phantom of fascism goes all over Europe, and most importantly, their rulers do not see this alarm. am History does not teach them anything, but in vain. Themselves will suffer in the first place!
  46. 0
    4 January 2015 18: 32
    maybe this is their new symbolism of the state?)))
  47. +1
    4 January 2015 18: 42
    What are you surprised at, my mother lives in England, she told me a case where their visiting Arabs filed a lawsuit against the English coat of arms at the county emblem! Like they went on a crusade, it’s hard for us to look at it ... And they removed him-))) can you imagine this ?? God forbid !!
    1. +1
      4 January 2015 18: 52
      Quote: Mayer1980
      visiting Arabs filed a lawsuit that the coat of arms of the county has an English cross! Like they went on a crusade, it's hard for us to look at it ... And they removed him

      This is hypertrophic painful tolerance, a slightly different case.
  48. +1
    4 January 2015 18: 49
    This is how they gradually teach respectable Germans that they should not touch the "holy". They generally have a lot of wonderful things about legislation. I have come across some things, so apart from the conclusion, this is insanity, it never occurred to me. Democracy, damn it.
  49. +13
    4 January 2015 19: 08
    There is a medical definition of tolerance and it clearly indicates the meaning of the word.
    1. 0
      5 January 2015 09: 49
      What are you doing here for "tolerance"? What does tolerance have to do with it? The symbols of Nazism are prohibited by law with them, even if you obtolate here. If you have saved it, then this is how it should be, and in their concept of "symbolism of fascism" rather a sickle and a hammer .... Guys, who do you want to be friends with? With Europe?
  50. 0
    4 January 2015 19: 19
    Gentlemen, this is just law enforcement in action, the Roman-German one is not unprecedented - if a hypothesis, then a disposition (its judge applied it (scraping or paper)), otherwise a sanction.
    The norms for the prohibition of damage to municipal property cannot have extended interpretations (for example: to destroy the swastika in other ways), because they would turn into norms against the swastika, which the judge should have applied, in this case ...
    Fucking casuistry ((((, and the uncle needs a lawyer (remembering the deadlines) and in resonance!
    1. +1
      4 January 2015 19: 50
      here it’s not the grandfather’s business but the system
      if you went to court you still got to grandmas
      are you right or not even a hundred yes pay

      and Natsik are harmless here, they fight mainly
      with widely walking Islam and people who came here
      who do not want to learn the language and work and receive only social money
    2. 0
      4 January 2015 21: 24
      To remove the top layer of the building decoration (scrape) is not damage to property? And here is a precedent? The propaganda of fascism by demonstrating the swastika and xenon-inscription is obvious. The burden of maintaining the property (including painting the facade of the building) lies with the owner!
      Geyropa as she was a fascist, she remained!
  51. +4
    4 January 2015 19: 38
    I understand that he acted on emotions... It was necessary to quietly draw the Red Star over the swastika...
  52. 0
    4 January 2015 19: 48
    Where can I see photographs of the wall before and after the swastika was painted over? what
  53. 0
    4 January 2015 19: 59
    The Swabians are great Pharisees and pseudo-legalists. They are playing for pragmatists. Grandfather ruined the graffiti drawing, which is allowed, and covered the wall with paint, ruining the interior. But by and large, they turn a blind eye to the manifestation of fascist actions in Europe...
  54. 0
    4 January 2015 20: 00
    Nazism is being revived, yes. The only question is where it will be sent... With their migration policy and situation, as well as with the annoying states, I doubt that it will be sent to Russia. Let’s not forget that there are far-right parties (National Front, Jobbik, etc.) who want to cooperate with Russia.
  55. 0
    4 January 2015 20: 01
    This means that those who painted over the swastika and the xenophobic inscription did NOT spoil the municipal wall, but the one who painted over this disgusting thing DID SPOILE... angry
  56. 0
    4 January 2015 20: 12
    They need to make another 45 campaign!!! When they once told me that children in Germany are taught that Soviet soldiers did not take active part in the period 41-45! I wanted to destroy this nation!!!
    1. 0
      4 January 2015 20: 35
      Quote: Max40
      When they once told me... I wanted to destroy this nation!!!

      Destroy the one who said it.
    2. 0
      5 January 2015 00: 17
      what did they do to you personally
      there are a lot of good and kind people
      if you want to fight, go you know where
      while there is an opportunity
  57. -1
    4 January 2015 20: 38
    Quote: RUSS
    Read carefully the court fined him not for tolerance, but for damage to municipal property, that is, for his "graffiti".

    What kind of selectivity?
    Sorry for the intimate details: Are you from Geyropa?
    Is chicanery more important to you than meaning? Maybe we should have waited until the deadline for applications? And then, within the deadline, prepare design documentation for the urban planning operation of painting the wall? Maybe it would have been acceptable to paint the wall with almost transparent paint? Maybe it was necessary to open a case against the graphite fascists, and until the case is over, keep the swastika as material evidence? And also put a policeman to guard her?

    We must live according to natural concepts: if you see a swastika - destroy it, if you see a fascist - ....
  58. 0
    4 January 2015 20: 56
    Simply, this needs to be washed with Katyushas. So that they remember and don’t draw the creatures!
    1. 0
      5 January 2015 00: 28
      then start with Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia
      there is much more of this goodness
      and monuments to our heroes it was broken a long time ago
  59. 0
    4 January 2015 21: 36
    In principle, our Foreign Ministry could send a note of protest condemning the propaganda of fascism and prosecuting people with disabilities for anti-fascist activities for political reasons! Cover this case more widely in the media and regularly remind the so-called “partners” that they are being tried for anti-fascism!
  60. +1
    4 January 2015 22: 09
    the devil is in the details... or the details are diabolical... the court will consider and make the right decision...

    This is the whole essence of Europeanism - the absence of essence, but only form!
  61. Imrail
    0
    4 January 2015 22: 20
    Oh my, what a mess Germany is going to again...
  62. 0
    5 January 2015 05: 09
    In every Russian family, someone died during the Great Patriotic War. Also, during the same war, the Germans lost someone in every family. And they remember everything. And under whose banners their grandfathers died. All this old noise is building up and it won't lead them to anything good. I would like the nation to draw some conclusions, but the outcome seems to be the same. They simply do not understand that a second attempt to grab a chance for revenge will lead to the disappearance of their nation forever.
    1. Kassandra
      0
      5 January 2015 13: 12
      on the third...
      The only thing that’s alarming is that this Bendrea looks completely dishonest...
  63. 0
    5 January 2015 08: 16
    Betty Kilian is somewhat reminiscent of Mrs. Bastinda from The Wizard of Oz. Who was also afraid of cleanliness in general and water in particular. And which just disappeared. I wish the same for Kilian.
  64. 0
    5 January 2015 09: 46
    Nothing surprising. They didn’t even react to the fucking procession in Ukropostan, they just didn’t send flowers. Everything is going according to plan: the existing Reich No. 4, which has been in existence for a quarter of a century, is beginning to legitimize itself, including in these ways. Europe has always been fascist, and the 20th century only confirms the rule.
  65. 0
    5 January 2015 10: 34
    The German government has long hair and a short mind.
  66. 0
    5 January 2015 10: 57
    All Germans born in Germany are genetic Nazis and are definitely (according to the verdict of the Nuremberg trials) subject to UNCONDITIONAL DESTRUCTION!
    1. 0
      5 January 2015 12: 20
      But what about those people whose ancestors made attempts on Adolf’s life?
      into the firebox too
      probably Mr. Isaev organized everything
  67. 0
    5 January 2015 12: 49
    The logic is clear - the swastika did not spoil the appearance of the municipal building, but decorated it.
  68. 0
    5 January 2015 12: 56
    Insanity is growing stronger in the European Union!
    If all this is true, it will be hard to live in the future in a purely correct European Union! crying laughing
  69. 0
    5 January 2015 13: 43
    Ralf Bender will definitely be recognized as Man of the Year in Germany!
    Merkel has long forgotten what fascism is... and this is her mistake!
  70. 0
    5 January 2015 15: 24
    I'm afraid the admins will cut the text... This is no longer tolerance - this is tol-e-rasta!!! Whether we like it or not, we already have confrontation in our hands!... Fuck what color it is painted, no matter what “good” ideas it hides behind!!! How many times can you shout: “Wake up!” ??? Are you waiting for Kristallnacht??? Mother, your Jews!!! Where are you looking??? And this time they will start with you!!! Maybe from the other side, maybe more “affectionately”, but to hell with YOU!!!
  71. 0
    5 January 2015 16: 44
    ...It seems that =tolerance= in Europe, and Germany is no exception, has reached such a height of insanity that other legal proceedings are not possible here, an example of this was the imposition of a fine on a disabled person who painted over fascist symbols.... Believe me, there will be more ..............
    1. 0
      6 January 2015 00: 35
      I think that tolerance, for the sake of tolerance, should be renamed homosexuality or lesbianism. Because in other areas of activity, dissent is harshly suppressed.
  72. Lokar
    0
    5 January 2015 16: 55
    The case is indicative of the fact that not everyone in Germany and other European countries are zombified lizards. There has been a lot of material on this subject lately, especially in Germany. The popularization of Nazism/fascism in Europe causes an extremely negative attitude among many. The politics of neo-Nazism has been germinating for decades. It has become especially noticeable in recent years and Merkel’s achievements in this direction are very noticeable. In fact, people (mostly middle-aged and elderly) have not forgotten what all this threatens. Among teenagers there are individuals reminiscent of Nazi fanatics. And until the majority of the population raised in the anti-fascist spirit dies, there is hope.
  73. 0
    5 January 2015 17: 54
    Bookmakers are confident that the Russian Federation will lose in the final of the Youth Hockey World Championship

    2 17 2
    The game will take place on January 6 at 4:00 Moscow time

    Bookmakers predict that the Canadian national team will win the World Youth Hockey Championship, Yegor Mitrushkin, chief analyst at the Liga Stavok bookmaker, told the Russian News Service.

    “The Canadians won all the matches at this championship, so they have more strength left, and the team is very strong, so, of course, we will root for ours, but most likely the Canadians will win. The odds for a Canadian victory are 1,6, they bet 4,5 on a draw, and 4 on our victory,” he said.

    Mitrushkin noted that in the Russian Federation they traditionally bet on the Russian team. “The odds have just appeared, but the bets should be distributed in a ratio of approximately 50 to 50, but experts are betting on Canada,” the specialist said.

    The day before, contrary to the bookmakers’ forecasts, Russian hockey players defeated the Swedish national team with a score of 4:1 in the MFM semi-final match.

    The Canadian team became the rival of Russian hockey players, defeating the Slovak team with a score of 5:1 in the semi-finals of the World Youth Championship.

    The final of the Youth World Championship will take place on the night of Monday to Tuesday and will begin at 04:00 Moscow time. The teams of Sweden and Slovakia will meet in the match for third place. Russian hockey players have already met with Canadians in the finals of the 2011 tournament. Then Valery Bragin's team, losing with a score of 0:3 after two periods, was able to score five goals and win the match.

    The tournament takes place in Toronto and Montreal (Canada).

    Tomorrow we’ll take a break from politics and root for our people!
  74. 0
    5 January 2015 18: 50
    And we wonder where fascism comes from on the outskirts. Now it’s clear from the homeland. Stalin was a visionary politician. He ordered to take cities outside the USSR border without significant destruction. But he miscalculated the future. It was necessary to go through the fiery skating rink.
    I hope our mother taught us to learn our lessons well?
  75. +1
    5 January 2015 19: 15
    Anti-fascism is not a trend these days.
  76. 0
    5 January 2015 21: 01
    The entire geyropa will soon be walking around with swastikas, Bandera’s followers have broken through the taboo.
  77. aba
    0
    5 January 2015 21: 07
    A physical illness does not mean that a person suffers from a mental illness.
  78. 0
    5 January 2015 21: 08
    I take my hat off to such principled people. And the court was surprised: fascist symbols in public places - this is not damage to property, but the fight against the propaganda of fascist symbols - turned out to be damage...
  79. 0
    5 January 2015 21: 12
    Another article distorting facts to suit the current political situation here in Russia.
    He was fined not for painting over the swastika, but for the fact that he applied a difficult-to-remove material - spray paint - to the municipal building. If he had applied the paint in another place on the same building, he would have received the same fine. He just got caught doing this. Well, all sorts of bloggers have made a big deal out of this. Something the article does not describe is how these very media, the public and bloggers were outraged by the image of the swastika.
    If they caught those who painted the swastika, they would also most likely receive a fine under the same article and with the same wording. And the same bloggers and the public, as well as here on this site, would be outraged by a tolerant Europe. Propaganda in action!
    1. Kassandra
      0
      5 January 2015 22: 48
      ... he just painted over the swastika.
  80. 0
    5 January 2015 21: 48
    Complete idiocy!!!
  81. Ssnezhok
    0
    5 January 2015 22: 39
    http://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Параграф_86а_Уголовного_кодекса_Германии
  82. Ssnezhok
    0
    5 January 2015 22: 47
    Paragraph 86a of the German Criminal Code (German: § 86a (Strafgesetzbuch)) is an article of the German Criminal Code, known as the article “On the prohibition of the use of symbols of unconstitutional organizations” (German: Verbot der Verwenden von Kennzeichen verfassungswidriger Organisationen). De facto, it is the main law prohibiting the use of Nazi symbols, such as flags and emblems of the Third Reich, symbols of major organizations, uniforms, slogans and forms of greeting[1].
  83. Ssnezhok
    0
    5 January 2015 22: 52
    In black and white: PROHIBITED!!!
  84. andgy2007
    0
    6 January 2015 01: 25
    this teacher works at the school where my daughter studies. He seems like a good guy, although I don’t know him personally. Crosses are sometimes painted somewhere in the passages, but somehow they are not particularly visible, or they are still painted over by the municipalities. and apparently someone snitched on him. this is par for the course here.

    can I send him greetings and words of support from VO?
  85. 0
    6 January 2015 02: 24
    This is the notorious Western tolerance...