Ukrainian army sets records: already armed with 10 modified tanks

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The Ukrainian defense department, it seems, decided to go on a kind of record. Currently, Ukraine is the leader in the number of modifications of the main tankswrites in his article on the site Messenger of Mordovia expert Dmitry Lemeshko.

Ukrainian army sets records: already armed with 10 modified tanks


“If you try to calculate the models and modifications, you get the following picture: T-64А, T-64B, T-64Б1, T-64БВ, BM" Bulat ", T-64B1М, T-64БМ1М, T-CHNUMXCH, CH-TN, X-NNXX, T-72B72M, T-72BM1M, T-XNUMXBCH, T-XNUMXBXNUMXМ , T-XNUMXUAXNUMX, ”notes the author.

T-64BV and BM "Bulat"

BM "Bulat"

If you take the fighting vehicles of Kharkov origin, then some modifications have quite significant differences in the internal stuffing, which can lead to certain problems in maintenance and operation.

“The same picture with machines manufactured in Nizhny Tagil,” writes Lemeshko. “How many Ukrainian experts cursed them, they called them flawed, suitable only for Africa.” But life turned so that the "bad" tanks were in service with the Ukrainian army.

At a recent event, held with the participation of Poroshenko, were demonstrated T-72AB seventeenth armored plant (Lviv).

T-64BV

T-72AB

And absolutely exotic T-72UA1 machines of the Ethiopian contract - a set of built-in dynamic protection "Knife" is mounted on the tower, and on the case elements of the same "Knife" are placed in boxes of the old "Contact-1" protection. Another distinctive feature of the tank is the 5TDFMA-1 engine with a capacity of 1050 l. with.


T-72UA1

“Sights and observation devices on this modification remained the same, this is evidenced by the presence of an infrared illuminator L-4, which in the so-called“ active mode ”ensures the operation of the night channel of the 1K13-49 guidance device“ Neman ”,” the author notes.

It is quite possible that soon the tank fleet of the Ukrainian Armed Forces will become even more “multifaceted", since, according to some sources, it is expected that the BM "Oplot" tank will enter the army.
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  1. +24
    8 December 2014 17: 18
    Urgently turn in all modifications to the militia. They need it. wink
    1. +15
      8 December 2014 17: 22
      "KVN NOVOROSSIYA, Donbass Premier League" ... It remains only to congratulate the Ruins army, given how many spare parts are needed for various types of tanks, no one will make it to the final ...
      1. +29
        8 December 2014 17: 25
        Well, where, where, and on the outskirts of the famous masters to modify ... laughing
        Mod
        1. +14
          8 December 2014 17: 30
          There is nothing surprising for the army, which is proposed to create a battalion of disabled people, which, most likely, will include a platoon of blind snipers, deaf signalmen and armless sappers. fool
          1. Luzhichanin
            +1
            8 December 2014 17: 35
            not surprisingly, this is now the attitude of young people with brainwashed, so it will be from whom these battalions will be formed.
            1. -7
              8 December 2014 17: 58
              And what will be the reaction of passers-by when they are asked deliberately provocative questions? Although Channel One also succeeded in propaganda on the verge of senility.
            2. -55
              8 December 2014 18: 32
              Quote: Luzhichanin
              not surprisingly, this is now the attitude of young people with brainwashed, so it will be from whom these battalions will be formed.

              Duma no well done. I also criticized them for the fact that they are thoughtlessly leading an info war.
              Like VO. But maybe the situation is a little easier there.
              Yes, well done Odessa (although the girl apparently could not resist). Russia24 channel leading an information war against Ukraine. I am generally surprised at the lack of swearing at him.
              however, they are far from the First.
              The video clearly shows ATTITUDE TO ROS. MASS MEDIA!
              Moreover, they successfully inserted a lie about the "klaptika of the earth and 2 slaves" ..
              That's honest - well done. It’s impossible to answer an info war than a girl. It applies to both sides (both Ukrainian and Russian).
              Once upon a time they tried to watch it grow. news. As the turbidity and outright lie went, it began to strain. Then the rejection went. As for me, the Russian Federation went on the wrong copy of the Ukrainian media and lost the info war.
              Think about what our media (Ukrainian. And.) Did good? Bleed us! Made us hate each other? There fascists there Bandera?
              Print tons of lies and make us consume them? For the Ukrainian media, we have long understood, but how morally low have the Russian media dropped to that level?
              Here you need to save IN from descent to the level of the yellow press .. such articles are printed ...
              1. +26
                8 December 2014 19: 44
                Crystal in his repertoire ....
                But I strongly disagree that you can compare the Russian and Ukrainian media. Because there is a huge difference between exaggeration or, say, one-sided coverage of events and a frank cynical lie !! After watching the Russian media, there is no desire to burn everything that is yellow-blue, people don’t rush at people on the streets after hearing Ukrainian speech, Russian journalists don’t beat the Ukrainians and I didn’t even hear abuse, nobody touches, doesn’t insult and do not consider enemies of millions of Ukrainian citizens working on the territory of the Russian Federation, and is not celebrated as a national holiday, any failure of Russia in the world. Yes, Ukrainian news even managed to make an EVENT out of the usual defeat of the Russian biathlon team ......
                PS Kristal is not a minus in principle, since I am interested in the opinion of the other side and I respect his steadfastness.
                1. +1
                  11 August 2017 09: 46
                  Quote: Ramzaj99
                  PS Kristal is not a minus in principle, since I am interested in the opinion of the other side and I respect his steadfastness.

                  And in vain, soon this (that) boy-girl will again begin to whine: Crimea and Sevastopol, a knife in the back, I will not forget, I will not forgive, I will tell the children ....
              2. -3
                8 December 2014 21: 11
                Chet is not a verb!
              3. +1
                9 December 2014 06: 44
                when you get rejected what the hell are you rubbing here?
              4. +1
                9 December 2014 22: 16
                And who made me consider the cry "Glory to Ukraine" Bandera? Russian media? Or maybe the Soviet Union was "preparing a coup in 2014 in Ukraine" and telling people horrors about "good" Bandera supporters?
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                2. +1
                  9 December 2014 22: 46
                  Crystal:
                  Think about what our media (Ukrainian. And.) Did good? Bleed us! Made us hate each other? There fascists there Bandera?

                  I still don’t understand what kind of "2 slaves" they say in Russia, but I hear it from the Ukrainians ...
                  While in the Ukrainian media misinformation is chronic,
                  they are trying to present a single disinformation slipping through the Russian media in Ukraine as total.
            3. viruvalge412ee
              +18
              8 December 2014 18: 43
              Obviously, the aunt is fucked up, like the lop-eared black individual. Interestingly, who needs Khokhlushka in the world not as prostitutes or fat ...!? Aging and getting fat and greyhound quickly. They don’t want to work. Shouting, in a language incomprehensible to a normal person, while waving thick hands.
              To whom is this bouncing fool showing an American sign? I think it's a hohlu, who did not bring mattress wrappers to her ... because he died, taking a Kalash, not serving in the army at all with his mother for a boob and hearing a turchin, who, by the way, started the war, - rushed into battle against the damned Russian mothers, children, old people and the sick in the hospitals of their own Ukrainians. The Ukrainians are sighing firing at peaceful people - good! -good!
            4. +20
              8 December 2014 18: 59
              The journalist interviewed 100 people, 95 people spoke out in support of Putin, 5 people cursed him. Next, we take and mount the video with these 5 cursed, and give out as the true opinion of ALL people. Is it not obvious that the roller is mounted, where is the purity of the experiment?
              1. +5
                8 December 2014 20: 56
                That's right!
                I also paid attention. And you can make it even easier - as we do stupid talk shows. We recruit a crowd of cheap, unnecessary actors and they sculpt whatever is horrible according to the script. The main thing is to pick up the scenery and it will turn out: "I won't tell you about all of Odessa, all of Odessa is very big ..."
            5. +14
              8 December 2014 19: 17
              I will not say for all of Odessa, but most of the FSUs are there. My sister lives there. Constantly watching Russia24. And there are a lot of those looking. The water in the Black Sea is muddied by visiting zapadents and local freaks who have joined them. And so everyone cares what to eat and how not to freeze.
              The girl with the fak is clearly staged.
            6. +3
              8 December 2014 22: 03
              After such questions "about slaves", which are kind of asked by Russian channels, people do not want to talk to Russians.
            7. -3
              8 December 2014 22: 15

              Luzhichanin RU  Today, 17:35 ↑


              not surprisingly, this is now the attitude of young people with brainwashed, so it will be from whom these battalions will be formed.
              while we are effectively fighting with ourselves, we are exterminating the Slavic brothers to the joy of our partners, and we are ruining our power and all because of our own stupidity, I never thought that we would fight with the Russian brothers. We were brought up against an external enemy, when ours are against the occupiers, and now the enemy your neighbor and sometimes sibling
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        2. +2
          8 December 2014 17: 39
          For some reason I remembered a picture about a Vespa scooter with a 76,2mm gun on board laughing
        3. +8
          8 December 2014 18: 44
          Here is another modification
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        5. +1
          8 December 2014 19: 34
          ABOUT! And what is this for a shushpanzer? The miracle of hostile technology ..... crying
          Fear scattered in different directions))))
          Now the BCH will surely die, yeah .... From laughter! May God grant them health!
        6. +1
          11 August 2017 09: 42
          Quote: Paradoxov
          Well, where, where, and on the outskirts of the famous masters to modify ... laughing
          Mod

          Is it a garbage truck or a crematorium? belay
      2. +2
        8 December 2014 17: 33
        Quote: ispaniard
        "KVN NOVOROSSIYA, Donbass Premier League" ... It remains only to congratulate the Ruins army, given how many spare parts are needed for various types of tanks, no one will make it to the final ...

        And it’s also hemorrhoid to prepare specialists: After all, there are several pieces of tanks of each modification! And then junk from Europe will go too, there is also a bunch of modified ones, mainly with foreign nodes!
        1. +11
          8 December 2014 17: 50
          I’ll say as an artilleryman: all this is equally shot from MT-12 :)
        2. +1
          8 December 2014 17: 50
          I’ll say as an artilleryman: all this is equally shot from MT-12 :)
        3. +2
          8 December 2014 17: 52
          Quote: serega.fedotov
          Quote: ispaniard
          "KVN NOVOROSSIYA, Donbass Premier League" ... It remains only to congratulate the Ruins army, given how many spare parts are needed for various types of tanks, no one will make it to the final ...
          And it’s also hemorrhoid to prepare specialists: After all, there are several pieces of tanks of each modification! And then junk from Europe will go too, there is also a bunch of modified ones, mainly with foreign nodes!
          Unfortunately, the militias are also, as you put it, "gemorno". It is not enough that this technique needs to be captured, because it still needs to be put in order and maintained. Conclusion: we need supplies from the Russian Federation of the standard model. Well, or at least a typical set of spare parts, assemblies, and aggregates to bring the equipment to a single standard.
      3. +9
        8 December 2014 17: 36
        Quote: ispaniard (3)

        "KVN NOVOROSSIYA, Donbass Premier League" ... It remains only to congratulate the Ruins army, given how many spare parts are needed for various types of tanks, no one will make it to the final ...

        Yes, the tanks are the same. We pinned a little pimpka, one modifying it, added a somersault two, it would be better to pretend to be a rag and did not shine.
    2. +5
      8 December 2014 17: 22
      All of these tank modifications will burn alike from militia fire.
      1. GRF
        +5
        8 December 2014 17: 30
        Wild fantasy and peaceful b ...

        When did they modify ZAZ last time?
        But they could do Toyota with such zeal for diversity then ...
      2. +1
        9 December 2014 06: 54
        I agree with you my grandfather burned the armor of various modifications of the colossal difference did not notice
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    4. +1
      8 December 2014 17: 31
      The militias will be taken away
  2. Yaroslav83
    +6
    8 December 2014 17: 18
    Well, everything, it's time to evacuate the factories beyond the Urals and evacuate ourselves.
    1. GUS
      +8
      8 December 2014 17: 22
      Quote: Yaroslav83
      Well, everything, it's time to evacuate the factories beyond the Urals and evacuate ourselves.

      They won’t reach the Urals. Thank God also left the factories.
      As the chief of staff of our regiment used to say, "a tank with an untrained crew turns from a good combat vehicle into a bad vehicle."
  3. +5
    8 December 2014 17: 19
    Such a zoo will further deplete the budget of Urina, which is already on the verge. What, in general, Novorossia and we personally personally benefit.
  4. +5
    8 December 2014 17: 19
    It is necessary to see in Avito maybe the regiments have already put out this very technique.
  5. +4
    8 December 2014 17: 20
    There are new targets in the "Ukrop dash" ...
    1. +4
      8 December 2014 17: 25
      This Ukrainian record is from hopelessness.
  6. +36
    8 December 2014 17: 21
    Well, it remains only to "teach" Thailand with "Oplot" - and that's all, one might say, a comprehensive export ... Well, then each one describes in the measure of his upbringing ... from South Africa they didn’t pay for coal, the Brazilians with the rocket, it seems, were deceived, the engine of the statesmen exploded after the alteration. As I can see, all export operations can be curtailed and completely switched to two of the most important Ukrainian export items - rapeseed and representatives of the oldest profession.

    the process of signing Ukrainian arms contracts. To avoid unnecessary questions, the Ukrainian group.
    Ukraine was pretty shitty to Russia by simply outrageous dumping, especially in the sector of "regular buyers" of Soviet weapons - selling off the stocks of equipment inherited from the USSR at bargain prices. Plus, a lot of interesting Soviet developments by now Russian design bureaus went just through Ukraine (serial plants) for all sorts of "joint" projects, naturally without the participation of our design bureaus. The most obvious one is the sale to China of the Zubra air-cushion landing craft (developed at the Almaz Central Design Bureau) under the guise of allegedly "its own development" "Bizon", moreover, together with technical documentation. More examples can be found. But now it looks like this lafe has come to an end - everyone has already begun to spit at the mention of the Ukrainian military-industrial complex and refuse to cooperate.
    As they say - "Feel the difference!" :)


    The Ukrainians pressed hard on the "secondary" arms market. Historically, a huge amount of weapons was stored on the territory of the Ukrainian SSR. This is the reserve of the first wave for the Western Group of Forces, this is the Kiev Military District, these are the reserve warehouses where everything removed from service was sent, but not sent for melting. And, of course, warehouses for humanitarian aid to the nude cannibals fighting capitalism. At the time of the collapse of the Empire, these warehouses in total had almost half of all aviation, tank forces and artillery of the Union. Something was saved and taken away (part of the "new" property taken out a little earlier by the ZGV). Something was promptly transferred to the Russian bases in Crimea. But the bulk remained to be plundered by the Raguli. And this mass put pressure on the "secondary market" of weapons - both in the form of finished products and in the form of components. I will reveal a terrible military secret - a lot of Russian military-industrial complex enterprises bent or shrank to a half corpse due to the lack of orders, for example, for aircraft AiREO or tank transmission and electrical elements. With a gigantic market for these products, there were no real orders for new ones at all - the entire market was flooded with donor organs from the ruins. Guess why only 200 out of 76 IL-78 / IL-5 fly on the ruin? Why out of 3000 (approximately) T-72s on the move remained about a hundred (of which half are already in Novorossiya)? And for now, I'll give you a hint - you can remove avionics from the Il-76 for about 20 million dollars (in market prices), and from the T-72 you can remove the starter, generator, fuel pumps and other running nishtyaks for about 80 thousand dollars. All kinds of repair factories also massively drove counterfeit kits.
    1. +1
      8 December 2014 17: 30
      Are you repeating yourself?

      That there is no news that UEFA did not recognize the Crimean football teams for Russia. What is the reason to refuse the Euro 2018, and to me that de Biloid should have at least something to tell)))
      1. +8
        8 December 2014 17: 52
        Well, something like that:


        You can argue, but ... Let’s expand the dispute of posts so two hundred, as in the good old days.
        1. +2
          8 December 2014 17: 56
          But I don’t understand the meaning of the picture. In the text Oplot, but in the picture Bulat. As well as on your T-90 for India.
          1. 0
            8 December 2014 18: 19
            To the great joy of the Baron, the "Oplot" has not yet participated in the battles. So to speak, the last bastion of the theory about the ubertanks of Kharkov. laughing
            1. -9
              8 December 2014 18: 50
              Quote: Alexey RA
              To the great joy of the Baron, the "Oplot" has not yet participated in the battles. So to speak, the last bastion of the theory about the ubertanks of Kharkov. laughing

              how did not participate ???? laughing
              The militia proudly declared that they destroyed 17 Strongholds! On the battlefield there between the Leopards and the Scuds ...
              And all shaval and no one denied ..
              We don’t see the gopher .. but he is!
              1. +10
                8 December 2014 18: 54
                Quote: Cristall
                Militias proudly declared that they had destroyed 17 Bastions! On the battlefield there between the Leopards and the Scuds ...
                And all shaval and no one denied ..
                We don’t see the gopher .. but he is!

                Duc ... all "strongholds" were carried away by the smashed Altai armored militia fleeing from the battlefield to smithereens. laughing

                The militias and "Tulips" seized ... then, however, it turned out that these were "genocides". And the "strongholds" most likely turned out to be "bulats".
                1. -3
                  8 December 2014 19: 28
                  Quote: Alexey RA
                  genocides "

                  Hyacinths
                  1. +2
                    8 December 2014 23: 43
                    Quote: Cristall

                    Quote: Alexey RA
                    genocides "

                    Hyacinths


                    Well, when applied by the Ukrainian terrorist group in Donbass, the name "Genocide" is more appropriate.
                  2. +1
                    9 December 2014 10: 21
                    Quote: Cristall
                    Hyacinths

                    To be more precise, the 2C5. He is "Hyacinth-S". He's a "genocide". smile
                2. +1
                  8 December 2014 19: 38
                  How broken ?! And yesterday kazaly sho holder !!!!! recourse
              2. +1
                8 December 2014 22: 20
                Quote: Cristall
                declared that they destroyed 17 Strongholds!

                There, it seems as if the Bastions counted t-80ud.
      2. +2
        8 December 2014 18: 49
        Quote: Kars
        but to me that would de biloid ultras at least something to tell)))

        they’re sitting in your parliament today, come hang on at least for the heel, if you find strength coming down from the couch.
        1. +1
          8 December 2014 18: 54
          Quote: twviewer
          if you find the strength to go down from the couch.

          physical abuse is not my way.
          But you, in principle, can continue to prepare for stuffing dough like in Sochi.
          1. +1
            8 December 2014 19: 04
            Quote: Kars
            in principle, you can continue to prepare for stuffing dough like in Sochi.

            If you feel better, we will do so. Moreover, everyone seems to have their own karma.
            1. +1
              8 December 2014 19: 08
              Quote: twviewer
              If you feel better, we will do so.

              I don’t feel much better. I just can imagine how svidomye will be happy when the 2018 Euros are transferred to London. And now there is a beautiful way to jump - sorry for the yanyk with the 2012 Euro it wasn’t possible to jump.
              1. 0
                8 December 2014 20: 27
                if it’s not getting better, why bother?
                1. +1
                  8 December 2014 20: 29
                  Quote: brdnxela
                  if it’s not getting better, why bother?

                  Yes, it’s just interesting why there is still no material about this at VO. About the Crimean teams.
      3. +2
        8 December 2014 21: 45
        Well, it means that the team "Chernomorets" from Uryupinsk will appear in the Russian championship, randomly staffed with players from the Crimea! home matches, oops..in Simferopol!
    2. +1
      8 December 2014 17: 54
      Damn good girls good laughing
      1. +1
        8 December 2014 18: 41
        Quote: Siberia 9444
        Damn good girls

        yes such "cowards" are full in the world. If you wish, you can easily find it in the Russian Federation and Ukraine and anywhere.
    3. -8
      8 December 2014 18: 40
      This is not the first time you repost this novel. What for? we already got it. Ukraine sold bad Soviet legacy. Russia is good, it didn't sell anything. Well, the main conclusion - I sold - to "crap the RF" ...
      we generally can sneeze so as not to spoil the Russian Federation? smile
  7. Fuse
    +5
    8 December 2014 17: 23
    This is apparently a preparation for a "truce"? what
  8. +6
    8 December 2014 17: 24
    The author had in mind ten different modifications.
    from two main models?
    So we have even more fun! Fuck you count!
    More T-80 and modifications are added, and T-90!
    This is not counting the T-55 and T-62! Which is the same on
    storage. And they have modifications ...
    1. +2
      8 December 2014 17: 50
      Well, we have at least 90% of components interchangeable. And in the Ukrainian army, for each modification, only its own.
      1. +5
        8 December 2014 17: 59
        Quote: Former Tankman
        Well, we have at least 90% of components interchangeable. And in the Ukrainian army, for each modification, only its own

        Interchangeably the same as what you have with us.
        1. +4
          8 December 2014 18: 34
          The difference is that we have a T-80 - in trace amounts. And in the ZSU T-72, the campaign will soon be as much as the T-64.

          T-72UA1 is a thick trolling. I imagine the face of the driver, who was first told that he will serve on the T-72 ... and then added - with 5TDF. wassat
          1. +1
            8 December 2014 18: 44
            Quote: Alexey RA
            T-72UA1 is a fat trolling.

            Negroes somehow coped. And so there are spare engines, spare parts, etc.
            1. +2
              8 December 2014 18: 52
              Quote: Kars
              Negroes somehow coped. And so there are spare engines, spare parts, etc.

              The keyword is Africa.
              Watch the video of 5TDF launch in cold weather - the "Bumblebee" primus is resting.
              1. +1
                8 December 2014 18: 57
                Quote: Alexey RA
                Watch the video of 5TDF launch in cold weather - the "Bumblebee" primus is resting.

                Probably in the USSR no one heard of frosts.
                1. +4
                  8 December 2014 19: 16
                  Quote: Kars
                  Probably in the USSR no one heard of frosts.

                  In Kharkov - for sure. At Murakhovsky, the pomnitsa, the procedure for starting 5TDF in the wet cold period was colorfully described:
                  The driver mechanics, with an unbroken hand, press the starter button, press twice on the oil injection switch, and then on the air release lever. Compressed air rushes under tremendous pressure into the cylinders, where it meets sprayed oil. Any student will say that such a hellish mixture inevitably gives an explosion. Correctly! If you stand next to the tank at this moment, you get the impression that a big mine exploded inside the car: a loud pop is heard, the body shudders, a long tongue of flame breaks out of the ejector. If something (or someone) is behind the ejector, then this object (or person) is littered with a continuous layer of oil, densely seasoned with soot.
                  Needless to say, the method of starting a barbaric and healthy engine is not conducive. However, the task has been completed, all tanks are roaring with engines, mechvody - on horseback. Once this barbarism hiccups to someone else. But the current mechvody for a long time will be in the civilian with a smile to leaf through the demobilization album. Unfortunately, neither the T-64 designers, nor the TOIE drafters even thought about such realities of the Soviet Army.
                  But now all the engines started up, and the box is immediately filled with thick exhaust gas clubs of dozens of diesels. Through the gates wide open they slowly creep out. Nothing is visible inside the box, no horseradish is heard and there is nothing to breathe: the concentration of harmful impurities exceeds the most liberal standards once in a thousand. In such an environment, various incidents occasionally occurred, mostly accidentally crushing people. Therefore, a strict rule was established in our regiment: after starting the second-row tank driver, the first-row tank driver helps, when the first row tank leaves the box, both drivers enter the second row tank and remove it from the box. That is, the mechanical drives of two tanks must continuously see each other.
                  The mechanical drives after starting with the manual fuel supply handle set the average speed so that the engine warms up faster and does not accidentally stall. And the exhaust in a cold engine is saturated with particles of unburned fuel, oil and soot. Initially, when the T-64 just arrived to replace the T-62, this long-known fact did not bother anyone. However, it quickly became clear that even 5-10 minutes of work in a gas-polluted box lead to the formation of a sticky film in VO 5TDF cyclones (we called this effect “coking”), which remarkably collected dust.

                  And here is the launch of 5TDF in the autumn-winter period:
                  1. +1
                    8 December 2014 19: 20
                    Quote: Alexey RA
                    In Kharkov - for sure. At Murakhovsky, the pomnitsa, the procedure for launching 5TDF in the wet cold period was colorfully described

                    Oh well
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    2. +4
      8 December 2014 18: 03
      Quote: AlNikolaich
      More T-80 and modifications are added, and T-90!
      This is not counting the T-55 and T-62! Which is the same on
      storage. And they have modifications ...

      Do not mix in "storage" and "in parts".
      We have:
      T-55 and T-62 - replaced with T-72 and put into storage with subsequent disposal (thanks to the "furniture maker" - removed these relics from combat-ready formations).
      T-64 - in storage.
      T-80 - EMNIP, are operated until the resource is knocked out and the spare parts reserve is used up (like BT in 1940-1941).
      As a result, industry and BTRZ remain supported by the operation of the T-72 base chassis with various body kit options.
      As for the T-90 ... what index did it have originally, huh? wink

      In contrast to us, in the ZSU after the summer-autumn change-over, the T-64 and T-72 will be in approximately equal proportions. And if you take into account where the parent plant and design bureau on T-72 remained ...
      1. +6
        8 December 2014 18: 17
        So it’s still cooler with us. We have neither parts nor storage. We only have on paper and for the President’s eyes. And that’s it!
  9. +6
    8 December 2014 17: 25
    In this connection, I would like to wish the SE army a good and adequate response to the preparations of the aggressor ...
    1. +1
      8 December 2014 17: 32
      Quote: Mama_Cholli
      a good and adequate response to the preparations of the aggressor.

      it is to Ventorg. you give tests of Almaty
      http://sled-vzayt.livejournal.com/663.html
      1. 0
        8 December 2014 20: 00
        Quote: Kars
        it is to Ventorg. you give tests of Almaty
        http://sled-vzayt.livejournal.com/663.html

        these are Baltic stocks, too lazy to look, but someone bought the modification data of the T-72 after the collapse of the USSR in the 90-ies from the Russian Federation, one of them stood behind parashenko.
        1. +1
          8 December 2014 20: 12
          Quote: Phantom Revolution
          about someone bought the data modification T-72 after the collapse of the USSR in the 90-ies of the Russian Federation, one of them stood behind parashenko.

          Do not tell)))))) T-72Б3 was lit up differently and from the back Poroshenko stood the usual T-72БВ / АБ
  10. +8
    8 December 2014 17: 29
    In many respects I agree with the author of the article, but ... each of these tanks needs to be knocked out or captured, which means that people from the militia may well die ... Let it be an old, but formidable force. Until this chocolate brown regime is crushed by the throat, more than one person will die on both sides.
    1. +2
      8 December 2014 18: 11
      Seriously, I would only welcome such a rate of receipt of armored vehicles in our troops. I am not a tanker and I cannot judge qualifiedly about their fighting qualities. But in the end, any of these tanks can take a few shots at least, and this can cost people their lives. Normal people.
      And "normal" people in Kharkov, a mostly Russian-speaking city, work for the junta for rations. Well, history will put everything in its place.
  11. +2
    8 December 2014 17: 30
    In many respects I agree with the author of the article, but ... each of these tanks needs to be knocked out or captured, which means that people from the militia may well die ... Let it be an old, but formidable force. Until this chocolate brown regime is crushed by the throat, more than one person will die on both sides.
  12. +2
    8 December 2014 17: 34
    Also Ukrokiborgi ordered 140 BTR-3.
  13. 0
    8 December 2014 17: 34
    if so many have modernized, then why don’t they come to participate in the tank biathlon?
    1. +1
      8 December 2014 17: 43
      Quote: andrei332809
      why don’t they come to participate in the tank biathlon?

      So they were planning to come to Maidan. So you are lucky.
      1. +10
        8 December 2014 17: 58
        Quote: Kars
        So they were planning to come to Maidan. So you are lucky.


        oaths of Moscow have perished b v_d sm_hu
        1. +3
          8 December 2014 18: 06
          Quote: stroitel
          oaths of Moscow have perished b v_d sm_hu

          You don’t learn how to walk on a tank. They immediately put them in a tank.
        2. ZKB
          +1
          8 December 2014 18: 16
          Damn, it's a pity the quality of the vidos is bad))) is this a new OPLOT tank ??? Yes, it is made using stealth technology))))
          1. 0
            8 December 2014 18: 45
            Quote: ZKB
            Is this a new OPLOT tank?

            general stronghold beautiful tank
            Here are a couple of photos from Thailand.
            APU he can not afford .. although ..


            1. +5
              8 December 2014 19: 40
              with all due respect to Kharkov and its tank building school, you won’t see any new strongholds, you bought towers in the Russian Federation too ... Specifically, from the Omsk transmash ... there will be new upgrades 64 and 72, but the stronghold alas and ah ..
              1. +1
                8 December 2014 20: 14
                Quote: T80UM1
                Ashni bought a chassis in the Russian Federation too.

                Ничего подобного.
                From the Pakistan contract the full cycle to T-80UD and its derivatives.
                1. +1
                  8 December 2014 20: 17
                  not true, towers and guns bought the trunks they themselves produced ... and the towers from t80b-t80u were welded onto them, and the resulting tower was welded instead of cast like T80u, the armor resistance is better than 80, but the symbiosis is welded-cast ... Chassis from 80 is not made in Ukraine! otherwise bulat would have equipped a normal chassis !!!
                  1. +1
                    8 December 2014 20: 24
                    Quote: T80UM1
                    untruth, towers and guns bought the trunks the truth themselves produced

                    Where did you get this nonsense?
                    Since the time of the Pakistani contract, the Russian Federation has not been selling anything for Ukrainian tanks. And it was planned to purchase the guns, but the RF refused to sell them to disrupt the contract.
                    1. +1
                      8 December 2014 20: 29
                      we raised this topic in a special forum, one friend from the Kharkov plant provided photos of how towers are made for strongholds (where they are bought), with regard to the Pakistani contract - there were towers that were planned for t80ud for the SA, in fact t-84 - t80ud only with DZ knife...
                      1. +1
                        8 December 2014 20: 35
                        Quote: T80UM1
                        one friend from the Kharkov factory pre

                        One comrade))))))) read the monograph.
                        And the towers were made in Kramatorsk.
                        It was delivered to the first T-80A towers from Ukraine to Leningrad.
                      2. 0
                        8 December 2014 20: 47
                        I can’t find a photo of the assembly of the tower of the stronghold-M in my group as I find it I will definitely throw it off)))
                      3. +1
                        8 December 2014 21: 09
                        about birds, about towers
                      4. 0
                        8 December 2014 21: 10
                        outside view
                      5. +2
                        8 December 2014 21: 22
                        So what? I’ll repeat again with the Pakistani contract in Ukraine the full production cycle. And this is nonsense that the towers and chassis were purchased in the Russian Federation after the collapse of the USSR.
            2. 0
              8 December 2014 22: 25
              Quote: Cristall
              general stronghold beautiful tank

              Everyone has their own ideas about beauty, some the worse, the more they like ....
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        4. +6
          8 December 2014 19: 36
          Quote: stroitel
          oaths of Moscow have perished b v_d sm_hu

          The namesake, this is an old video.

          By the way: "walking in the tank" is a normal practice of initial training.
          And classes on Tactics in general only begin with them.
          Nothing funny.
      2. +3
        8 December 2014 18: 35
        Quote: Kars
        .So you are lucky.

        yeah, but how could it be otherwise what
        everything, alga. these cannot be cured anymore - the bikes themselves come up with, they themselves believe in them
        Real losses of regular troops of the Russian Federation in the war in Ukraine
        state on 08.12.2014 of the year
        KILLED 4789
        WOUNDED 1188
        LOST WITHOUT NEWS 2617
        Chronicle of war

        November 08.12.2014, XNUMX
        Rn n.p. Yasinovataya During advancing to combat positions, she was attacked by the tank unit of the Armed Forces of the unit of the 5 separate tank brigade of the 36 OA of the Eastern Military District (* in \ h 46108 permanent deployment center of Buryatia, Ulan-Ude, Divisionnaya station) 6 armored vehicles were completely destroyed. Losses are specified.
        Rn n.p. Gorlovka updated data on the losses of units of the 336th brigade of the MP BF RF and the 61st brigade of the MP of the Northern Fleet and the company tactical group of the 137 parachute regiment of the 106th air assault division of the RF Airborne Forces "200" -30, "300" - 64 TMN -4

        Rn n.p. Gorlovka during the performance of the assigned tasks by the units of the 336th brigade of the MP BF RF and the 61st brigade of the MP of the Northern Fleet preliminary data at 00-00 Moscow time "200" -26, "300" - 20 TMN -22. The clashes continue. The talks are recorded on air in English. The RTG of the 137 parachute regiment of the 106th air assault division of the Russian Airborne Forces (* location - Ryazan) is transferred to the area of ​​the clash.

        Donetsk region (area of ​​mine No. 18) as a result of an attempt to separate two conflicting militia groups of the 56th separate guards DShB of the Southern VO (* the main location of the Volgograd region) "200" -1, "300" - 3
        1. +1
          8 December 2014 18: 40
          Quote: andrei332809
          ha, but otherwise

          we are generally talking about tank biathlon where the Chinese didn’t shoot better than the tuned T-72 when they didn’t on a top sneaker.
          1. +1
            8 December 2014 18: 56
            They fired BPS and all the rest of the CS, BPSom to shoot more precisely is much easier ...
            1. +1
              8 December 2014 18: 59
              Quote: T80UM1
              They fired BPS and all the rest of the COP, BPSom to shoot more precisely is much easier

              Something prevented the others from shooting BPS? Or is it a violation of the rules?
              1. +1
                8 December 2014 19: 36
                we’re just not smart-ass, unlike the Chinese, (our KZ held the second place until the end of the competition, only at the end did the Armenians go around and then because of a broken chassis ...) And notice with your tank and with your shells who arrived? ... We shot what we were given ...
                1. +1
                  8 December 2014 19: 43
                  Quote: T80UM1
                  we are just not smart-ass, unlike the chinas

                  I honestly did not know the fact that the BPS was not looking. But here you can interpret it in two ways, or the Chinese are smart-assed or someone else does not catch up.
                  Quote: T80UM1
                  And notice with your tank and with your shells who came? ...

                  the one who wanted the one and arrived.
                  Quote: T80UM1
                  We shot what we were given ..

                  I personally generally think that the use of the Russian tuned tank is not solid.
                  1. +2
                    8 December 2014 19: 49
                    Quote: Kars
                    I personally generally think that the use of the Russian tuned tank is not solid.

                    first place was not discussed in advance, 1300ls drove the MSA from the T72Bz compared to the base 72b, the t90s prize was given for the second place by the way ...
                    Quote: Kars
                    the one who wanted the one and arrived.

                    for garlic, if you do not take the unsportsmanlike behavior of Russians with a pumped tank, it would be better if everyone participated in one type of tank
                    Quote: Kars
                    here you can interpret in two ways, or the Chinese are smart-ass or someone else does not catch up.

                    it was just an excuse that they don’t use cop on this tank ...
                  2. +1
                    8 December 2014 20: 02
                    Quote: Kars
                    I personally generally think that the use of the Russian tuned tank is not solid.
                    Day dobzhe Kars hi
                    Do you think the Israeli version of the modernization of the Kazakh T-72 is competitive against the "tuned" Russian ?!
                    1. +2
                      8 December 2014 20: 11
                      Quote: T80UM1
                      it was just an excuse that they don’t use cop on this tank ...

                      Well, I don’t know here. Once they don’t have a cop, still nothing prevents everyone from using BPS
                      Quote: T80UM1
                      it would be better if everyone participated in one type of tank

                      For me personally, nothing interesting can be seen in this. The whole salt is to compare iron and not the crews.
                      Quote: Alibekulu
                      competitive against the "tuned" Russian ?!

                      Israel always bothers me about import. I don’t know what kind of sight it is - Pine is very good, but Israeli passive armor does not impress me at all. Well, and how can I praise competitors when Ukraine offered a dozen T-72 upgrades from budget to top.
                      1. 0
                        8 December 2014 20: 25
                        Quote: Kars
                        For me personally, nothing interesting can be seen in this. The whole salt is to compare iron and not the crews.

                        then it was necessary to arrange a China-Russia competition

                        Quote: Kars
                        , still, nothing prevents everyone from using BPS

                        if in the BC they gave BPS then they would shoot BPS, but in the BC there were KS and PF
                      2. +1
                        8 December 2014 20: 30
                        Quote: T80UM1
                        then it was necessary to arrange a China-Russia competition

                        Personally, I would not have lost anything. Although, in principle, I did not look so carefully.
                        Quote: T80UM1
                        if in the BC they gave BPS then they would shoot BPS, but in the BC there were KS and PF

                        This is a problem for those who are participating in a level playing field.
                      3. 0
                        8 December 2014 20: 36
                        Quote: Kars
                        This is a problem for those who are participating in a level playing field.

                        especially applies to the tank on which the Russians spoke))) and which in a single copy for the Russian team laughing if there was a choice, I would choose the T-80U, but our tank crews only know the T-72 under it and the Angolans, Belarusians and Armenians were sharpened like the Serbs ...
                      4. +2
                        8 December 2014 20: 38
                        Quote: T80UM1
                        but our tankers only know the T-72

                        Well, at least they could ask for what shells they needed.
                      5. 0
                        8 December 2014 20: 53
                        Quote: Kars
                        but the passive Israeli armor does not impress me at all.

                        what about the armored merkava
                      6. +3
                        8 December 2014 20: 58
                        By the way, who is interested in the body of the arm ... CBT based on the armata
                      7. +1
                        8 December 2014 21: 20
                        Quote: T80UM1
                        TOS based on Almaty

                        stupidity. and as for the case, it’s whether or not the question is interesting. The rollers are exactly from t-72
                      8. 0
                        8 December 2014 21: 37
                        Quote: T80UM1
                        By the way, who is interested in the body of the arm ... CBT based on the armata

                        I could be wrong, but in my opinion on the TV channel the star had information that the chassis of Almaty would remain six-speed. The photo clearly shows seven.
                      9. 0
                        9 December 2014 06: 46
                        the six-circuit scheme will not stand, there should be an armored capsule, MTO, as well as a BC with AZ
                    2. 0
                      8 December 2014 20: 12
                      Quote: Alibekulu
                      Do you think the Israeli version of the modernization of the Kazakh T-72 is competitive against the "tuned" Russian ?!


                      ug complete ... (T72A) There is no DZ - a simple filler as on 4 merkava semi-plywood, in security it is inferior to T-72B with DZ, MSA as in Georgian T72sim only without a thermal imager, the wind sensor, thank God did not go into series ... we are much better in terms of security of the t-72bm 1990 guards with a wind sensor, but for this cut you need to plant someone! (as for a charge)
            2. +1
              8 December 2014 19: 13
              But did you notice the difference in stabilization, at what speed did the Chinese and we shoot?
              Threat the Chinese moved much faster when shooting from the move.
              1. +2
                8 December 2014 19: 17
                Quote: twviewer
                The Chinese moved much faster when firing on the move.

                you can’t say this if you want to become a major.
                1. +3
                  8 December 2014 19: 35
                  Quote: Kars
                  you can’t say this if you want to become a major.

                  nonsense, it is possible and necessary that the guns are not cleaned with bricks.
              2. 0
                8 December 2014 19: 38
                hello what year T-72B is interesting and what m.v. type-96, probably the stabilizer will be more modern there ???
                1. 0
                  8 December 2014 19: 44
                  Quote: T80UM1
                  hello what year T-72B is interesting and what m.v. type-96, probably the stabilizer will be more modern there ???

                  listen if you are strict, it was 72b3 this is a "new" modernized tank.
                  it is being delivered to the troops today.
                  96 but in my opinion today they no longer
                  1. 0
                    8 December 2014 19: 53
                    right now ... it was the Russians who had a t72b3 "U" 2014 biathlon version (t72b3 with an improved engine), the rest drove a good 72b 1985 onwards.
                  2. 0
                    8 December 2014 19: 59
                    Quote: twviewer
                    strictly speaking, it was 72b3, this is a "new" modernized tank.
                    it is being delivered to the troops today.

                    If ... strictly approached, then it was T-72Б3М.
                    He is not in the troops.
                    1. 0
                      8 December 2014 20: 10
                      Quote: Aleks tv

                      If ... strictly approached, then it was T-72Б3М.
                      He is not in the troops.

                      I wanted to spare the opponent and kept silent about M, but
                      it doesn’t change the essence, but only exacerbates the difference in stabilization.
                      1. 0
                        8 December 2014 20: 22
                        Quote: twviewer
                        it doesn’t change the essence, but only exacerbates the difference in stabilization.

                        And what is the difference in the stabilizers installed on the T-72B3 and T-72Б3М?
                        I'm just curious.

                        And not only a solid "top" is needed, but also a set of other measures.
                      2. 0
                        8 December 2014 20: 54
                        Quote: Aleks tv
                        And what is your difference in the stabilizers installed on the T-72B3 and T-72B3M

                        in our opinion nothing.
                      3. 0
                        8 December 2014 20: 31
                        The opponent did not take into account the result of the Russian Federation which was predictable, the opponent wrote about other teams on the base 72b
          2. +1
            8 December 2014 19: 58
            Quote: Kars
            we are generally talking about tank biathlon where the Chinese didn’t shoot better than the tuned T-72 when they didn’t on a top sneaker.

            And you remember how many times during the providence of biathlon, the Chinese changed the tank due to various breakdowns ?!)))))))
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        2. +8
          8 December 2014 19: 23
          Real losses of regular troops of the Russian Federation in the war in Ukraine
          state on 08.12.2014 of the year
          KILLED 4789
          WOUNDED 1188
          LOST WITHOUT NEWS 2617
          Chronicle of war

  14. +4
    8 December 2014 17: 35
    They have a lot of models not only for tanks, they also have a bunch of models, both ours and imported ones ... In general, this is very good, because in this case the equipment becomes disposable and in some cases unrepairable, especially imported. "unparalleled" within Ukraine ...
  15. +1
    8 December 2014 17: 35
    I remembered the times of socialism, when they put a box of Zhiguli on the "Muscovite"! Yes, the need for invention is cunning. Or maybe even with 34-k you will build something into your super tank "bummer"? laughing
  16. +3
    8 December 2014 17: 35
    But in combat conditions it turns out which modification is really better.
  17. kelevra
    +1
    8 December 2014 17: 36
    More dill would be fried in these steel boxes, they might stop climbing, as happened with aviation!
  18. +1
    8 December 2014 17: 37
    That look with a fright will appear tanks of the fifth and sixth generations! But there is no difference for us, everyone burns the same. The best tank is its absence! Well, just come, get a cake!
  19. +2
    8 December 2014 17: 39
    In response, it is urgent to release several modifications of the RPG-7 and run on this metal.
  20. +2
    8 December 2014 17: 43
    A little rest Africa from rust ... lol
  21. 0
    8 December 2014 17: 44
    And how cool they are in the first photo! In two rows! So they ask for a couple of Su-25 combat calls! Here there would be more scrap metal ... And the guys from the DPR, LPR would have less trouble ... feel
  22. +3
    8 December 2014 17: 47
    Rather, dill would not have 10 modifications left, but 10 tanks that were not operational.
  23. +9
    8 December 2014 17: 49
    Ukraine, ATO zone. A call from the "boiler" of the commander of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to the Kiev headquarters:
    - Comrade General, there are 200 of us! Separatists 200, scho rost!?
    - Now send the tanks !!!
    - Comrade General, there are 100 of us! Separatists 300! Tanks will be!?
    - They will ...
    - Comrade General, there are 10 of us! Separatists 390! Separatists ask: - when will the tanks be ??
  24. wladimir
    +5
    8 December 2014 17: 50
    And who said that Kharkov does not support the Maidan? and there they do and do tanks.
  25. +5
    8 December 2014 18: 00
    Unfortunately, I see that not only Ukrainians are jumping, but also half of our site. Zadolbali damn hat-takers. The war will be - heherrr which of you will disappear ... Then we'll see who loves the homeland.
    1. 0
      8 December 2014 18: 52
      Quote: Normal ok
      Unfortunately, I see that not only Ukrainians are jumping, but also half of our site.

      Quote: Normal ok
      Zadolbali damn hat-takers

      I agree. But why explaining the threat of such behavior-they don’t understand, minus and again Uraa .. Caps ..
      this is harm .. so we (RI) REV lost
      1. +2
        9 December 2014 00: 43
        There are a lot of computer generals, marshals sitting at Chinese computers of European brands, with built-in enemy OSes, sipping tea from bags (dust of Chinese roads) or beer with a beautiful import label spilled at best in Kaluga ... Marshal Vitalik (Mikhan leads the army ) They lay out a sagging clamshell at home and, on the move, banging on the keyboard with fat fingers on the keyboard and with stuck food between golden teeth, thinking about crises without any little information.
  26. +2
    8 December 2014 18: 02
    Modifications differ in internal stuffing sights, rangefinders, etc. And the transmission, the engines are the same, as well as the standard installation locations for all the Bebiha, I think the same for the mounts.
    So unfortunately, probably wakes up, you can collect one normal from three broken ones.
  27. 0
    8 December 2014 18: 03
    Quote: Normal ok
    I’ll say as an artilleryman: all this is equally shot from MT-12 :)

    MT-cabinet was built specifically for this generation of tanks :)
  28. 0
    8 December 2014 18: 06
    I think the militias need to file a claim with the Armed Forces command. What kind of assortment, then let the stock of original spare parts be put into the kit. Otherwise, they won’t take it.
  29. +2
    8 December 2014 18: 08
    The old wise RPG-7V looks at all these modifications, in general, at any tanks in the world with a sad smile ...
  30. Idel
    +3
    8 December 2014 18: 10
    Ukrainians at the genetic level hate us. Under Soviet rule, this was all leveled. Remember who was the most terrible warder in concentration camps during the Second World War, who raged in Belarus, who killed the intelligence officer Kuznetsov ..... You can write a lot. What is happening now is WONDERFUL. Hohloukrov becomes smaller !!! Fewer who hate us.
    They are not brothers to us. This mulch was invented by the Ukrainians themselves, who live in Russia. Now we need to degrease these freaks as much as possible. Let them begin the traditional famine.
    1. 0
      8 December 2014 18: 37
      Campaign "brothers-khokhlyaki" minus a friend, we will fix it.
    2. +1
      8 December 2014 19: 34
      Quote: Idel
      Ukrainians at the genetic level hate us.

      yeah .. the church in the 16th century, are we too?
      I have already heard that Ukrainians are guilty of everything .. in the Flood (something they dug in spite of the Russian) and in the fall of a meteorite (Ukrainian) in the era of dinosaurs.
      The Tunguska meteorite is also our work ..
      The same mantra - among Ukrainians Russians for centuries "strangled" Russians' counter - Ukrainians are to blame for everything. They destroyed the mustache that was acquired by back-breaking labor .. three cigarette cases .. a whole empire ..
      1. -1
        8 December 2014 23: 54
        Quote: Cristall
        Quote: Idel
        Ukrainians at the genetic level hate us.

        yeah .. the church in the 16th century, are we too?
        I have already heard that Ukrainians are guilty of everything .. in the Flood (something they dug in spite of the Russian) and in the fall of a meteorite (Ukrainian) in the era of dinosaurs.
        The Tunguska meteorite is also our work ..
        The same mantra - among Ukrainians Russians for centuries "strangled" Russians' counter - Ukrainians are to blame for everything. They destroyed the mustache that was acquired by back-breaking labor .. three cigarette cases .. a whole empire ..


        So you - the Ukrainians are yelling to the whole world that you have been living since the beginning of its creation, and looking at how you are able to "create" by the example of your country, the answer to the question "who is the initiator of all cataclysms" involuntarily arises? laughing
    3. +2
      9 December 2014 00: 45
      Quote: Idel
      Now we need to degrease these freaks as much as possible. Let them begin the traditional famine.

      Shizoik, you didn’t forget to go to autumn hospitalization? The enhanced course of chlorpromazine will turn you into a rut.
  31. +1
    8 December 2014 18: 19
    All this is just firecrackers on tracks, without trained tankers, of course. If they begin to train high-quality specialists, the Novorossiysk Armed Forces will be difficult. Modern anti-tank defense will be necessary, then the bacon will be a choice of smoked and boiled.
  32. ZKB
    0
    8 December 2014 18: 24
    I will say this, with a proverb: "no matter how many pigs there are, she will remain a pig" T62a, my father still served as an asshole on it, and I already have two children of my own. and what, hang a lotion on this cart and it will become a formidable weapon ??? it's all cheap tuning. stickers on a penny, it won't become a Mercedes
  33. 0
    8 December 2014 18: 34
    This whole situation is modernization. and with other weapons - it very clearly characterizes Ukraine itself: let it not be understood, but if only it looked decent and looked like something worthwhile. So the state of Ukraine is a caricature of the state. Sorry for the country.
  34. -1
    8 December 2014 18: 35
    New Anthem of EuroHochland:
    Soar with bonfires, flame from the tire!
    We Khokhlosans are the monkey brothers!
    Our girls are track workers,
    and the deputies are all pederasts!
    The era of light years is approaching.
    Bandera is with us! Get ready for the earth!
    Our soldiers died in the Donbass,
    the militias have their guns.
    We pissed off Crimea, Lugansk region too,
    Kharkov will be about, it seems.
    The era of light years is approaching.
    Bandera is with us! Get ready for the earth!
  35. +2
    8 December 2014 18: 42
    -Why is everyone so happy and punning ..? -Because all this "iron" will soon shoot and crush the militias ... -In Novorossia, and so many villages and towns are literally wiped off the face of the earth ... -What's the difference ... -With the help of what military equipment all this dill has done ..? -What's so funny ...? -Because all this will soon fall on Novorossiya ...
    1. Tribuns
      0
      8 December 2014 18: 59
      The more modifications of military equipment in the Ukrainian army, the more options for "cutting" budget money and other resources for the repair of various equipment options, the manufacture of spare parts for them and the maintenance of these equipment options by the manufacturer ...This is normal for corrupt Ukraine, for war is the gold mine for the Ukrainian nouveau riche sawers ...
      Let us remember how the old Jew Panikovsky selflessly whispered to "the son of Lieutenant Schmidt" Shura Balaganov ("The Twelve Chairs" by Ilf and Petrov): "Saw, Shura, saw! It is golden! "... And Shura with tension sawed through the cast-iron weight, looking with great distrust at Panikovsky ...
  36. 0
    8 December 2014 18: 48
    I wonder if they will squeal that the T-72 belong to the army of the Russian Federation, supposedly invading Ukraine? Where are you, patriots, shouting to me that in Ukraine there is no T-72!
    1. +1
      8 December 2014 19: 36
      Quote: JonnyT
      Where are you, patriots, shouting to me that in Ukraine there is no T-72

      as far as I remember it was about a modification not produced in Ukraine (and in the Russian Federation)
      Ukraine is written with a capital letter. Norms of the Russian language.
      1. 0
        8 December 2014 23: 56
        Quote: Cristall
        Ukraine is written with a capital letter. Norms of the Russian language.


        Ukraine is no longer spelled, it is being sawn.
      2. MSL
        -1
        9 December 2014 09: 22
        "Ukrainian SSR" - was written with a capital letter, what was left of it .....
        With what letter do not write, one meaning - nasty.
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  37. 0
    8 December 2014 18: 50
    we’ll burn everything.
  38. -1
    8 December 2014 18: 55
    All this armada of tanks can be destroyed with one or two volleys of Tornado-C with anti-tank cluster elements. By the way, they fly so far that you can shoot from your territory.
    I hope that all the same in Minsk they will agree and stop shooting.
  39. +7
    8 December 2014 18: 57


    our tankers can not be defeated))) after such a theory, we need 10 or more tanks of dill in our one tank))
    1. +1
      8 December 2014 19: 51
      Quote: gozmos
      after such a theory, our one tank of dill pieces of 10 and more is necessary))

      Well, why so many "incomprehensible letters" under a good video?
      request
    2. 0
      9 December 2014 07: 15
      But everything is intelligible and understandable laughing What you need to always be on the alert and in cases of attack on the tank fur. should immediately fall on the back and for this the reverse gear should already be engaged. good laughing
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  40. viruvalge412ee
    -2
    8 December 2014 19: 00
    Stop it! Ukrainians-warriors from God in the opposite direction are cowards. He served, did not see it as an officer sergeant. The sight, frankly, is pathetic. It was in the Arctic (Pechenga). Then I did not think about who the Ukrainians, the Baltic states, or Belarusians are. Jews were always noted, which, as a rule, were designated as SEXOT in each company and each baht and regiment. There were chocks and everyone else. But, among the rest, there were Ukrainians. Erysipelas are healthy and at first impudent. They quickly get sick, whine and growl, made their own arrows, hanged themselves, but when there are more than 5, they immediately become impudent with five of them on one.
    Radishes.
    1. +2
      8 December 2014 19: 51
      Quote: viruvalge412ee
      Ukrainians-warriors from God in the opposite direction-cowards

      hmm .. apparently
      2021 Heroes of the USSR In the Second World War were cowards (they were Ukrainians)
      about 25% or 26 twice Heroes of the Soviet Union come from modern Ukraine; also twice cowards.
      - 33%, or one of three thrice Heroes of the Soviet Union, from Ukraine during the war (Ivan Nikitovich Kozhedub was born in the Glukhovsky district of the Sumy region of Ukraine), Georgy Konstantinovich Zhukov and Alexander Ivanovich Pokryshkin come from modern Russia
      Was Ivan Nikitovich a coward too? Three times probably ???
      * The role of Russia in the Great Patriotic War - an average of about 65.5%;
      * the role of Ukraine is about 25.3%
      * the role of Belarus is about 2.8%
      * the role of the other 12 former union republics is about 6.4%
      but still Ukrainians are to blame. Cowards traitors and all sins can and should be attributed to them .. even though they were frozen in the Arctic (Ukraine is a warm country)
      1. -1
        8 December 2014 20: 24
        Exceptions only confirm the rules.
        No one says that all Ukrainians are like that, but the percentage of such people in Ukraine is greater.

        And how do you comment on such proverbs? (They appeared from the USSR)

        2 Ukrainians - partisan detachment
        3 Ukrainians - partisan detachment with a traitor

        When a crest was born, the Jew cried.

        Greed, meanness, envy, limited (Seljuk) thinking, cowardice are characteristic features of many residents of Ukraine. I repeat, not all, but the percentage is higher, I say as a person who has lived in Ukraine and Russia.
      2. 0
        8 December 2014 20: 41
        Quote: Cristall
        2021 Heroes of the USSR In the Second World War were cowards (they were Ukrainians)
        about 25% or 26 twice Heroes of the Soviet Union come from modern Ukraine; also twice cowards.
        - 33%, or one of three thrice Heroes of the Soviet Union, from Ukraine during the war (Ivan Nikitovich Kozhedub was born in the Glukhovsky district of the Sumy region of Ukraine), Georgy Konstantinovich Zhukov and Alexander Ivanovich Pokryshkin come from modern Russia
        Was Ivan Nikitovich a coward too? Three times probably ???
        * The role of Russia in the Great Patriotic War - an average of about 65.5%;
        * the role of Ukraine is about 25.3%

        they Ukrainians were

        In Ukraine, which you are defending now, new heroes:

        You already decide, Cristall. who are you with. Although judging by your comments on the killing of children by Ukrainian APU during the shelling of a school in Donetsk (by the way, with the latest heroes of Ukraine) it is clear who your heroes are.
        1. +3
          8 December 2014 20: 50
          From the rostrum stands the HOLE - a girl with a child, Ukrainian. Catch the difference

          Only Ukrainians now rule in Ukraine (I can’t call this country Ukraine - the language does not turn)
          For the Victory Banner in Kiev, they can easily be killed now. And they killed in your Odessa on May 2.
      3. +1
        8 December 2014 21: 32
        By the standards of Ukraine, all were "evil Moskal-lyi occupiers from Donbas" who fought against the light Nazis from Germany and Galicia. Incl. none of your business - our heroes ...
      4. 0
        9 December 2014 07: 25
        And what do you not write how many percent the Ukrainians handed over to the Nazis, how many policemen became, how many they killed and burned their own villages. Or do these heroes go the same way - about 25.3%
        1. +1
          9 December 2014 11: 46
          Quote: Siberia 9444
          that you don’t write how many percent the Ukrainians handed over to the fascists how many policemen became how many killed and burned their own village

          Yes, probably less than Russians in the Vlasov Army and the Lokot Republic. The territory of the Russian Federation was less under occupation than Ukraine and Belarus.
  41. viruvalge412ee
    0
    8 December 2014 19: 09
    Yes, and yet, it is necessary to report that the immature, shitty army of an embittered state can do huge troubles to EVERYONE! This is what happens. Dumb cattle or meat-catchers seem to be bastard of this. This is scary a thousand times.
  42. reluctant
    -7
    8 December 2014 19: 13
    I talked the other day with a woman whose son was sent to Crimea to serve, she said so, I don’t know the truth or not, but according to her son, the FSB is there, she looks and keeps Crimean Tatars in check, according to surveys and questions of local residents, there’s enough, everything there are but more than half or so are dissatisfied with joining Russia! -many do not want to be its members, they say in Ukraine it was nice to me, like that
    1. +6
      8 December 2014 19: 55
      The daughter of a naval officer?
    2. -8
      8 December 2014 19: 55
      Quote: unger
      I talked the other day with a woman whose son was sent to Crimea to serve, she said so, I don’t know the truth or not, but according to her son, the FSB is there, she looks and keeps Crimean Tatars in check, according to surveys and questions of local residents, there’s enough, everything there are but more than half or so are dissatisfied with joining Russia! -many do not want to be its members, they say in Ukraine it was nice to me, like that

      what are you? You can’t print it here ... this is the undermining of the basics .. smile
      1. 0
        8 December 2014 23: 59
        Quote: Cristall
        Quote: unger
        I talked the other day with a woman whose son was sent to Crimea to serve, she said so, I don’t know the truth or not, but according to her son, the FSB is there, she looks and keeps Crimean Tatars in check, according to surveys and questions of local residents, there’s enough, everything there are but more than half or so are dissatisfied with joining Russia! -many do not want to be its members, they say in Ukraine it was nice to me, like that

        what are you? You can’t print it here ... this is the undermining of the basics .. smile


        But what about "Ukraine" with a capital letter, or can you ignore this verbal "balm"? laughing
  43. -1
    8 December 2014 19: 24
    The tanks are different, but they will burn the same! am
  44. 0
    8 December 2014 19: 26
    The Ukrainian army has long been an occasion for ridicule. In fact, there are a lot of dubious achievements over the years of “independence”. Either a residential building will be covered with a ballistic missile, a passenger plane will be hit by an anti-aircraft missile, or recruiting tanks will shoot their barracks during firing. Theft and illegal arms trade have become the hallmark of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
  45. Tribuns
    0
    8 December 2014 19: 33
    The presence of many modified types of military equipment in Ukraine is explained very simply ...

    The more modifications of military equipment in the Ukrainian army, the more options for "cutting" budget money and other resources for repairing various options for equipment, making spare parts for them and for servicing these options by the manufacturer ... This is normal for a corrupt Ukraine, because war is a gold mine for Ukrainian nouveau riche sawmills ...

    Thank God that we have already passed this in Russia ...
    1. 0
      8 December 2014 19: 42
      The presence of many modified types of military equipment in Ukraine is explained very simply ...

      I think it’s even easier - they cannot make two identical tanks ...
  46. -2
    8 December 2014 19: 59
    The author in the style of "Ukraine Khan" - found the reason..10 types of tanks ..
    So what? And if they break in, they will find the optimal one?
    for me the main thing is that they are.
    it doesn’t matter that the T72 will not go for export but to the APU.
    A stronghold in the Armed Forces for a long time.
    While the process goes from quantity to quality .. bad, with bruises, but it goes.
    1. +1
      8 December 2014 20: 17
      Quote: Cristall
      And if they break in, they will find the optimal one?

      No one is looking for the best - they took everything that was in stock, including three import contracts. It's a pity there is no photo of the Kong T-64.
    2. +2
      8 December 2014 20: 26
      It would be better if these tanks went for export, rather than go to crush the Donbass.
    3. 0
      8 December 2014 21: 59
      Khan Ukraine is not the number of modifications of tanks. the right word, tanks have nothing to do with it ...
  47. +1
    8 December 2014 20: 37
    It seems to me a lot easier. What happened and what they were able to dig up, bring, rent and fix or repair everything went into business. Therefore, a bunch of all kinds of modifications. Like when you want to eat the whole house you will turn over and eat from each crumbs. So here with the world on a thread - a bunch of diverse equipment unique in its kind.
  48. msv
    +1
    8 December 2014 21: 13
    Quote: Cristall
    Quote: Luzhichanin
    not surprisingly, this is now the attitude of young people with brainwashed, so it will be from whom these battalions will be formed.

    Duma no well done. I also criticized them for the fact that they are thoughtlessly leading an info war.
    Like VO. But maybe the situation is a little easier there.
    Yes, well done Odessa (although the girl apparently could not resist). Russia24 channel leading an information war against Ukraine. I am generally surprised at the lack of swearing at him.
    however, they are far from the First.
    The video clearly shows ATTITUDE TO ROS. MASS MEDIA!
    Moreover, they successfully inserted a lie about the "klaptika of the earth and 2 slaves" ..
    That's honest - well done. It’s impossible to answer an info war than a girl. It applies to both sides (both Ukrainian and Russian).
    Once upon a time they tried to watch it grow. news. As the turbidity and outright lie went, it began to strain. Then the rejection went. As for me, the Russian Federation went on the wrong copy of the Ukrainian media and lost the info war.
    Think about what our media (Ukrainian. And.) Did good? Bleed us! Made us hate each other? There fascists there Bandera?
    Print tons of lies and make us consume them? For the Ukrainian media, we have long understood, but how morally low have the Russian media dropped to that level?
    Here you need to save IN from descent to the level of the yellow press .. such articles are printed ...

    Cristall, you watch from which channel the video. There are many staged and frankly Russophobic videos. Fey Erich Hartmann elementary A. Shary brought to clean water. Therefore, I can shoot a lot of such people. But the demonstrations of people with Russian, St. George, etc. with thousands of flags until May 2 on YouTube walk. They can not be faked. And further. I studied in Kharkov, even after studying I thought to stay there (Thank God I didn’t stay), because then I didn’t make any difference between Russians and Ukrainians. Nobody really could write or speak Ukrainian there, at least in the city. In 1992, no one could write tablets at educational institutions in the Ukrainian language correctly. Then the super idea of ​​self-identification came to be with the UNITED Ukraine. If Crimea wasn’t helped (but we still helped and not captured), there would be a massacre like in the Donbass.
    You did not minus the position. But your position is a dead end, the position of a patriot of Ukraine, trying to save the face of his country. It’s a dead end, because we’re enemies anyway: I can’t forgive Colorado, quilted jackets, Odessa on May 2, the killed children of Donbass, and you are probably cyborgs, dill, etc., as well as Crimea.
    And this, as with Georgia for 10 years.
  49. +2
    8 December 2014 21: 14
    Laughed heartily. Dill will soon have 100 tank modifications. But 1 piece of each modification. After that, even pygmies will LAUGH over them, since the concept of "unification" will be familiar to them more than kaklam
  50. vakha
    +2
    8 December 2014 21: 16
    Quote: Historian
    The tanks are different, but they will burn the same! am

    Amen.
    1. +2
      8 December 2014 21: 23
      yeah amen ...
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  52. +3
    8 December 2014 22: 14
    they are also ready for something else





    Heroes of the ATO! Fight calmly! "A place in the cemetery is already guaranteed for you"
    In Kharkov they decided to take care of the soldiers fighting the hordes of “separatists” in the Donbass. Take good care. Take such care that it will be completely taken care of. Forever. So that it doesn’t hurt them, and it doesn’t cost us. Cut their graves shorter. For an "honorable burial". Well, that is, it’s kind of like taking a turn. To a better life. So that no one gets ahead. Heroes of the ATO! Fight calmly! "A place in the cemetery is already guaranteed for you"
    ________________________________________


    Last.
    It is worth mentioning the number, so to speak, of allocated seats. According to the garden - 0 acres. Scientifically – 0,3 hectares. To be cynical, at least 50 heroes.
    Now let’s do the math: Kharkov, relatively speaking, is a city of one million people. In the rest of Ukraine, relatively speaking, there are 40 million people. For every million there are fifty heroes, something came to mind, as a result we get about two thousand people.
    If you listen to the helmet man Tymchuk, then this is even a lot. If there is a commission to investigate the tragedy of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Ilovaisk cauldron, it may be normal.

    If the official figures of the Ministry of Defense and Lyashko’s confession, which talk about losses in the amount of 10 to 14 thousand people, are tears.
    Where are the rest? Will they be homeless, excuse the cynicism?
    Well, okay, we decided and decided. It would be possible not to pay attention to this, since cynicism and stupidity in modern Ukraine are like sardines in a can: it has long been crowded. But there is one more aspect to all this, besides a certain cynicism, besides a cynical game with death.

    However, there is one interesting aspect to this news.
    The fact is that these places were allocated to cemetery No. 18 at 362 Gagarin Avenue. Same. which already has areas allocated for victims of Chernobyl and local wars.
    “This is the so-called “new cemetery” in the Chervonozavodsky district. There are special places allocated for combatants and liquidators of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant. This was done back in 2008 and no updates were published in connection with the latest events,” Kharkov political scientist and journalist Dmitry Gubin explained to the Kharkov NA journalist.
    So, will the ATO heroes be “settled” together with real cotton wool? They will equalize, so to speak. after death? And what about the “settlement” compaction method?

    “Of course, according to the current legislation, punitive forces are equal to the heroes of wars of the past, and therefore the old decisions of the city executive committee and utility companies will apply to them,” explains Gubin.
    So much for the act of reconciliation. The same one that Viktor Andreich Yushchenko, a lover of glaciers and pysankas, spoke so much about in his time and even started joint holidays for veterans of the Red Army and the SS division “Galicia” and the UPA. He, of course, was a well-known famine necrophiliac, but he arranged reconciliation for the living. Which is what I was wrong about. Alive, out of love, everyone tried to stuff each other’s faces. For old times' sake.
    But it was necessary, like the assessors in Kharkov. To reconcile the dead. Because they have no shame.
    Everyone will endure it.
  53. +1
    8 December 2014 22: 28
    Yes, God bless them, with modifications. There is no one to steer them... laughing
  54. 0
    9 December 2014 00: 03
    Banderlog sits in the driver’s seat in the Oplot tank and says: “Oh, it’s so soft, like bread!” laughing
  55. +2
    9 December 2014 00: 05
    Quote: Cristall
    Quote: JonnyT
    Where are you, patriots, shouting to me that in Ukraine there is no T-72

    as far as I remember it was about a modification not produced in Ukraine (and in the Russian Federation)
    Ukraine is written with a capital letter. Norms of the Russian language.

    And a new sentence begins with a capital letter, a space is placed between the dash and the word, a space is also placed before the brackets, and a dot is placed at the end of the sentence, and “Russian Language Norms” is not written - “Russian Language Rules” is written.

    PS "And these people forbid me to pick my nose..." S. Vovochka laughing
    Cristall's main language is NOT Russian!!!
  56. Beeram
    0
    9 December 2014 00: 07
    more good tanks for Novorossiya, and these will come in handy)
  57. -1
    9 December 2014 00: 18
    Here is a tank crawling towards Donetsk from the village of Chugueva - the necessary piece of iron will reach the militia!
  58. 0
    9 December 2014 05: 40
    They need to get old tractors from Russia on the cheap, maybe they’ll figure something out.
  59. 0
    9 December 2014 13: 26
    By the way, here is more complete information on the topic of these tanks. The essence of the news was the large amount of equipment transferred to the Ukrainian military. This means that Kharkov (and others) are riveting equipment in three shifts. The militias will definitely have problems. And there’s no need to hide behind a fig leaf, like: ukrov has a lot of modifications, which means we’ll win :( We need to think about what to do with it and not make fun of it.

    http://republic.com.ua/article/35167-Do-konca-goda-Ukroboronprom-peredast-armii-
    50-edinic-vosstanovlennoy-tehniki.html