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"IT-socialism is inevitable"

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"IT-socialism is inevitable"


Erudite Anatoly Wasserman in his lecture told why Ukraine as a state can not be and who will be the winner in the Fourth World War.
Journalist, political consultant and intellectual TV game participant Anatoly Wasserman visited Sergiev Posad on November 24, where in the anti-cafe Granat he spoke within the framework of the program “We are in Cuba”, with which he travels all over Russia.

Despite the fact that the meeting was not free (from 300 to 500 rubles for tickets) the hall of the anti-cafe was full. In this fashionable place for Sergiyev Posad came not only young people, but also aged people. The first hour, Anatoly Wasserman spoke in a monologue mode, he outlined two topics: the development of computer technologies (which can improve planning, which will make IT-socialism a reality) and his view on history Ukraine - this topic takes the thought of Wasserman because of the coup in Kiev. Then the well-known scholar answered the questions of Sergiyevoposadtsev: what is the meaning of life, who is Navalny, does Bitcoin and Ukraine have a future, why is he sure that there is no God.

Computers will return socialism

In 1996, when Wasserman was still a supporter of a market economy and worked for Yeltsin, he published the article “Communism and a computer” in the framework of the presidential election campaign, in which he popularly presented the mathematical ideas of Victor Glushkov, Leonid Kantorovich and Friedrich von Hayek. It followed from their writings that the technical restrictions imposed by technologies do not allow using the main theoretical advantage of socialism — the possibility of planning the entire production from a single center. And only fifteen years later Wasserman wondered: if now the technical capabilities of the world computer park do not allow to calculate a single plan, when will they allow it? In June, 2011 of the Year published his article “Negation of Negation”, in which it was calculated that in 2020-2022 the total capacity of the global computer fleet will be sufficient to calculate the world plan in just a day.

If the plan can be recalculated every day, then we will be able to respond to any surprises - from an earthquake to an invention. So, pretty soon the state of affairs will change in favor of socialism. And in order for the transition to new socialism to be unstressed, there is still a lot of research that needs to be done so that no one is hurt and no one objects.

When everyone does it alone, there’s no point in wondering about the goal. When the whole economy works as a whole, it should have a single goal. It is known that now this goal can be calculated mathematically. Based on the analysis of many different factors, including the preferences of different citizens and their ideas about a bright future, it is possible to establish a single goal for the whole society, and the movement towards it will contribute to the overall development. However, so far it is only known that the goal can be calculated, but there is no concrete method of calculation, and it has to be developed using exotic branches of mathematics, for example, the theory of reflection (the development of psychologist and mathematician Vladimir Lefebvre in the field of human awareness of his and others' thoughts). Wasserman IT-socialism is not only possible, it is inevitable.

Anatoly Wasserman completed the discourse on IT socialism at an approximate price, which would cost the preparation for the new economic structure and conduct the necessary research before 2020, if in Russia, of course, they decide to prepare for it - $ 1 million per month.

Ukraine and Russia

Next, Wasserman turned to the question of Ukraine. He began by stating that “after the coup d'état, Ukraine has become dangerous for all its citizens,” since the new government is trying to separate Ukrainians from Russians. Ukrainians, according to Wasserman, are an integral part of the Russian people, as are the Archangelites, Belarusians, Siberians or Urals, and that is why any leader of Ukraine who wants to appear independent, is forced to provoke conflicts between Ukraine and "the rest of Russia."

Further, Wasserman began to cite examples from the history of the civil war in Ukraine in the seventeenth century, hinting at its similarity with the modern historical moment.


Portrait of Hetman Peter Doroshenko beginning of the XIX century. Source: wikimedia.org


Best of all, the conflict with Russia, according to Wasserman, was a success with Hetman Peter Doroshenko. Doroshenko - one of the most colorful personalities of the time of the Ruins. As soon as he was elected hetman, he immediately declared that Ukraine should be attached to Turkey. His logic was such that if Ukraine was annexed to a single-faith and single-language Russia, it would eventually merge with the metropolis and, as a result, there would be no independent government, and if it was annexed to a non-Orthodox Turkey, there would always be a separate hetman and a separate foreman in Ukraine. And every time when Doroshenko was overthrown, the Turks came, the Crimean Tatars and restored his hetmanship. They paid off with the Turks in transferring to slavery the grechkosey and even a part of the Cossack golot. Crimea for three centuries was in Europe the center of the slave trade. Especially briskly, human trafficking took place during the thirty-year independence of Ukraine from Russia.

Ukraine and went to Poland, as Russian laws were tougher than the Polish. For example, such gentry entertainment as “hitting”, that is, an armed raid on a neighbor’s property was considered valor, and in Russia a crime. One of the last “raids”, which was made in that part of Poland, which is now Lithuania, is dedicated to the poem of Adam Mickiewicz “Pan Tadeusz”.

In total, throughout the hetman's history, Ukraine went ten times and returned to Russia. According to the most modest estimates, during this time its population has decreased threefold, and according to the most plausible - five times.

Next, Wasserman told how Catherine II dispersed Zaporizhzhya Sich, after which he decided to stop her historical excursion and answer questions from the audience.

On the agitation of Nikolai Starikov and Evgeny Fedorov

There is a saying: “If you have a hammer in your hands, then the whole world seems like nails”. Starikov (historian Nikolai Starikov. - RP) and Fedorov (State Duma deputy from United Russia Yevgeny Fedorov. - RP) found explanations for many phenomena and are now trying to present him as the only one, and there are very few events in the world caused by a single cause. The old men are right that the cause of the global crisis is the dominance of the dollar, and the salvation of our country from the crisis is in the nationalization of the Central Bank. This also applies to Fedorov. He is right that for a significant part of the Russian elite "the sun rises in the West" and the interests of their country for them are in second place after the interests of Washington and London. But he does not notice a serious confrontation of a significant part of the elite with this order of things and does not understand that it is necessary not only to fight for the separation of the elite from the West and the constant assertion that Russia is an occupied country. These statements demoralize those who work to strengthen the country. It is clear that if you believe that the country is occupied, then why strengthen it?

Mathematical proof of the absence of God

The proof of the absence of God was set forth by Wasserman in 2007, in the article “The Dilogy of Atheism”. True, it describes only a scheme that any modern mathematician can easily bring to the necessary level of rigor.


Anatoly Wasserman in the anti-cafe Granat in Sergiev Posad. Photo: Alexey Sochnev / "Russian Planet"


The existence of God, understood as the ultimate cause of all causes, is incompatible with the existence of the universe. It also gives no reason to choose between different versions of the picture of the world, between different versions of morality and ethics. With references to God, any morality and any morality is justified, as well as the idea of ​​the world.

At the same time, Wasserman noted that by denying the existence of God, he does not deny the usefulness of religion for the development and existence of society - over many centuries religion has absorbed moral norms and rules that are useful to society and its survival. And in Russia, religion replaced the state ideology after its constitutional ban.

Bulk: an agent of the West, a protege of the Kremlin or a fighter against corruption?

Navalny according to Wasserman is not a protege of the Kremlin, because even under Medvedev the Kremlin had enough brains not to bet on such people. An independent fighter is difficult to consider a person who has undergone a special course of political struggle at Yale University. The list of subjects studied in this course allows a person to become an organizer of a coup d'état. Only foreigners are enrolled in these courses, and all graduates work only outside the United States. As for the results of Rospil’s work, as Navalny claims, he prevented competitions and tenders for 42 billion rubles. However, it turns out, according to Wasserman, that contracts were canceled for just 600 thousand rubles, and all the same, after all the correction of errors in reports and formal deficiencies, were done.

Everyone knows that Navalny said: “the party of crooks and thieves,” but not everyone knows about whom he said this. He first said this about the Yabloko party, when he was kicked out of there for nationalism.

The concept of Andrei Parshev: “for” and “against”

Scars in his book "Why Russia is not America" ​​missed the simple truth - others are no better. It's like in a famous story about a man who looks in the mirror, and it says: “others are no better.” Almost as much energy is spent on air conditioning in California as it is on heating throughout Russia, and permanent repairs to buildings and communications after typhoons and earthquakes in Japan lead to higher costs than building in the most remote regions of Russia. But Parshev, of course, is right that the collision of differently developed economies leads to the enrichment of the more developed and ruin of the less developed. Integration into the global community can only occur under tight control.

Will Ukraine remain as a separate country?


Photo: Natalia Seliverstova / RIA News


“I am working to ensure that it is not preserved,” said Wasserman. Now the only country interested in a united Ukraine is, surprisingly, Russia. Further reintegration of Ukraine will turn what remains in Kiev and Lvov into a factory for the production of terrorism under the leadership of Washington. The Russian majority in Ukraine now is a shield on the path of terror, which so far covers Russia. Therefore, the reintegration was stopped, expecting that the regions of Ukraine, which realized their Russianness, would not allow the rest of Ukraine to turn into this plant of terror. This calculation, of course, is not fully justified. There is no good way out. The least bloody way out of this situation is the construction of a canal named after Stalin between Canada and Mexico.

The Future of Bitcoin

According to Wasserman, Bitcoin has no future. It was possible to keep the gold standard while gold production was growing at the same rate as the development of production. Bitcoin is built in such a way that its total number is limited. To this limit already approached. The calculation of each new Bitcoin requires such a huge computational cost that only a completely rabid exchange price allows you to pay for the power consumption of computers that calculate it. The number of bitcoins can not grow with the volume of production. The price of any product in bitcoins will fall. In order to go to Bitcoins as a new currency, you have to shuffle the entire financial system of the world. It is unlikely that someone will go. For the same reason, it is impossible to switch to the gold standard again, since this will lead to a fall in nominal prices.

Is man driven by egoism?

In the middle of the XIX century, the economist and philosopher Mill showed that a person who is capable of foreseeing the consequences of his actions in the long run will act altruistically. All manifestations of selfishness - a consequence of our short-sightedness. In Russia, this theory was popularized by Nikolai Chernyshevsky. Recently, this theory was confirmed in Richard Dawkins’s book The Selfish Gene.

What is a sense of life? The meaning of any process in its result. The end result of any life is known. So the meaning of life in the result that will remain after it. So the meaning of life is that after each of us it is better than before us. Selfish activity is simply meaningless.

Will there be a third world war?

Wasserman believes that the Third World has already been, was called Cold and ended with our defeat. In the current fourth economic war, we have a good chance of a rematch. If we talk about a hot war, then the Americans are now trying to exchange one big war for several small ones in different parts of the world, but they have already received an unexpected blow from a group that they themselves raised to fight forgive the legitimate government in Syria - the Islamic State. IG militants did not obey the United States and rushed into neighboring Iraq and now the United States is scared and does not know how to be. After all, conflicts in Iraq and Syria were created as separate conflicts. Will the United States in the future to keep the conflicts that they incite in the local mode, is unknown. It is possible that they will not succeed, and then they will lose the power that they have in the world.

Education and Health Reforms

“I cannot say everything I think about it, because I do not swear in public,” said Wasserman. If you do without the mat, the reform - the recognition of education and health care services. The libertarian theory claims that only effective demand deserves attention. Accordingly, only those who can pay for them are worthy of education and health care. Saving for free is the remnants of a scoop. In fact, the production can not do without a person. Man is the main means of production. Therefore, it is clear that a person should be treated and study for free, because in the future it pays off. Methods of control should be as rigid as in production, and the logic of the state standard must provide that a person should be able to relearn when changing production. The current reforms are deliberately destructive for production and the state.
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  1. The comment was deleted.
  2. IAlex
    IAlex 27 November 2014 21: 55
    -10
    All this crap, we would have to go through the coming years, because it is not known how all today's disassemblies will end for so many ...
    1. Giant thought
      Giant thought 27 November 2014 22: 33
      +25
      Wasserman, as always, is right in asserting that the reforms carried out by the Medvedev government are disastrous for the country.
      1. IAlex
        IAlex 28 November 2014 01: 28
        +1
        This Wasserman argued a lot, like the "great" Zadornov, before perestroika they sang how bad the USSR was, during the 90s they were doing chaos in Yeltsin's circles with everyone else cutting off cabbage, and now they broadcast how it all ended badly, and with such a face like mine cat, like: "I didn't shit! I will be a bastard" ...

        To guess that Yeltsin would join the country, there was no need to be a genius, at the time I was already seven years old I knew that there would be a full PPC, because everyone in the euphoria was screaming in the hohlostan, everyone will have vouchers, and the rest will work. Well, not surprisingly, the fools were cut off.
        Also, it was not necessary to be very smart to understand that Yeltsin and his gop team would not put their own people at the helm, and that the GDP would also fall apart like Yeltsin’s comrades.
        But Medvedev, this down does not even need comments, it’s enough to look at his face, especially when he was given the phone as president by President Jobs. Just a child from kindergarten, what else can you expect from such an infantile oligophrenic. Moreover, the GDP of the one who could sit him on the throne did not put.

        Naturally, you don’t have to be the smartest to understand that this team of zealots and their lads does not know how to work, will not and will not let others not to lose the feeder, and if the curvilinear freaks give gold tools, as everyone knows, there will be no palace at the exit , and as a result of the selected material and tool there will be a bunch of G ... (For those who have not entered, this is like an allegory) ...

        Incl. I'm surprised that for you what he says is generally a revelation. Just as it should not be surprising that all the steam over the past 6 months with the great talking shop, in another six months or a year, the whole thing will go off into a whistle, and we will get a reality that has been hidden for a long time for $ 120. As one of our acquaintances used to say: "With an oil price of $ 120, even a horse can lead Russia" ...
        1. nvv
          nvv 28 November 2014 02: 10
          -11
          The Wassermans, the Zadornovs, the Kobzons, teach us how to live. As long as they rule, we will live as we live.
      2. IAlex
        IAlex 28 November 2014 01: 56
        +2
        I will even say more, we are now participating in a comedy drama at our own expense. Only in the upcoming climax the turning point will be at the expense of our national ridge, because during the exposition of the 90s, our steering gop company first betrayed us, because they all came from the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, and then they were plundering us with the permission of the overseas owners. During the development of the (literary) 2000s, the exploitation process went better, because oil soared to $ 120 and it seemed that something began to appear from the lord's table, the more he was able to get rid of the complex of "community and conscience" for the most part and go to the principle "everything is mine and the loot does not smell", now we smoothly moved on to the development of the action, when our crooks who stole dofiga dough does not want to share the feeder with the former owner, but he is very angry ... And the climax itself is already visible, as a result of which it is unknown how will the matter end, but if they do not break the people's backbone, then they will bend concretely, and the saddest thing is that in the denouement, we will still remain extreme (Donbass has already demonstrated this personally), if our heaps win, we will milk further, if their owners win us they will be allowed to go around again as in the 90s, only that one option is much worse than the other, while for us personally, both of them will not make it easier for us. If all the same the owners win, I think many may not live to see the epilogue, but for the people it will be generally sad, and our bad guys will quickly move to their international pitchfork ...
        1. obraztsov
          obraztsov 28 November 2014 05: 18
          +8
          What you write at first glance seems like the truth, but the truth is only partially, because of which it cannot be considered the truth.

          It was not our swindler who rebelled against the owner, but Putin with his team. And not the fact that all team members agree to rebel. Putin’s uprising is supported by most of the people. Many people realize that the consequences of this rebellion can be dire. But without this rebellion, the worst of your two scenarios would automatically happen to us. Therefore, I personally am pleased with this uprising, because there is a chance that we are not

          let in a circle as in the 90s


          And what will be hard is a fact.
          1. IAlex
            IAlex 28 November 2014 13: 06
            +1
            Comrade, patriotism is not idiocy. Although many on this resource prove the opposite ...
            Secondly, the truth and truth of a concept are as extensible as the motives of those who define these concepts.

            And the facts remain facts, from this situation, in fact, as well as from the fall of the ruble, absolutely everyone benefits, well, except for the population, because this year, after the entire modernization of 2000, there should have been zero economic growth, followed by stagnation, and since our entire hop company or does not do anything for the development of the real sector of the economy, for reasons of misunderstanding, orders from the West and greed, then as if it was necessary to somehow mask all these miserable processes. So they disguised it, i.e. "mysteriously" the conflict arose when all the parties involved had something to mask ...
      3. RUSS
        RUSS 28 November 2014 09: 57
        0
        Quote: Giant thought
        Wasserman, as always, is right in asserting that the reforms carried out by the Medvedev government are disastrous for the country.


        Well, of course, "let us put all the dogs on Medvedev," we are not accustomed to blaming everything on the "extreme", as usual "the king is good, the boyars are bad." We must not forget that besides the prime minister, there is also a president, a "presidential Duma" and governors appointed by the president ...
    2. Ural45
      Ural45 28 November 2014 06: 14
      0
      For the wretched, yes, but for so many, there is already nothing to lose.
      1. IAlex
        IAlex 28 November 2014 14: 02
        0
        Your expression is an oxymoron ... laughing
        1. Kassandra
          Kassandra 28 November 2014 14: 23
          0
          spell out his second word, then you will "laugh" ...
          1. IAlex
            IAlex 28 November 2014 14: 26
            0
            That’s exactly what they sorted out, because the wretched are those who don’t have anything ... Have you been upset about this? Do not worry, it’s better to do something useful so that you have something ...
            1. Kassandra
              Kassandra 28 November 2014 22: 42
              0
              disassembled incorrectly ... see the syntax, do not get distracted by acorns ..
  3. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 27 November 2014 22: 00
    +6
    Wasserman writes quite well .. But judging by how he sang before (and who he was ..) I am very wary of him .. Don’t be blameworthy (but his fellow tribesmen usually keep quiet ..))) hi He’s holding a gun in the photo .. ..Who was going to shoot ..?
    1. Plastun
      Plastun 27 November 2014 22: 15
      +5
      this is airsoft, he has a collection.)))
      1. Kassandra
        Kassandra 27 November 2014 23: 31
        +4
        In "Office Novel" plans were still calculated on computers, then what?

        after he "mathematically proved the presence of absence" by confusing the final cause with the initial one (and then everywhere) - yes, pah on him, on this anatole ...
        "airsoft" in one word.
    2. maxxdesign
      maxxdesign 27 November 2014 22: 21
      +3
      this is an airsoft rifle)
      1. Arkuda
        Arkuda 27 November 2014 23: 15
        +2
        It is interesting how it was determined from the photo that the airsoft rifle, because airsoft weapons are exact replicas of combat, you can only distinguish it by disassembling it.
        1. Massik
          Massik 27 November 2014 23: 25
          +4
          Well of course, where do we go against airsoft guns laughing
          Look at the store carefully lol
          1. Siberia 9444
            Siberia 9444 28 November 2014 05: 49
            0
            A store is not a bunker, it means mechanically. Mehan is no different from the original.
            1. Massik
              Massik 28 November 2014 17: 03
              0
              You must hold it in your hands first, and then make such statements repeat
              In front you can clearly see the strip along which the remaining stock of balls is visible, does the combat store also have such a dirt collector in your opinion? wassat
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    3. vlade99
      vlade99 28 November 2014 00: 59
      +1
      I don’t care who he is, but I haven’t seen so many similar to my views and observations.
    4. vlade99
      vlade99 28 November 2014 00: 59
      +3
      I don’t care who he is, but I haven’t met so many views and observations similar to mine.
  4. Vasily Ivashov
    Vasily Ivashov 27 November 2014 22: 02
    +9
    Wasserman is terribly smart. And here are his comments on health care and education reforms to the point. I put the article a plus, because Wasserman himself is my plus in the fig.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 28 November 2014 10: 01
      0
      Quote: Vasily Ivashov
      Wasserman is terribly smart.


      Intelligence and "well-read" are different concepts, Wasserman is rather very well-read than brilliant, especially given his "swing" and political affiliation.
  5. new communist
    new communist 27 November 2014 22: 02
    -31
    The future is predetermined, there will never be any socialism again, oligarchic capitalism will end in the winter of 2020, when the 3rd world thermonuclear genocide war begins, then by 2030 a new social system will be built from the remaining 300-500 million people on planet Earth. Questioned fascism, K 2070 will win the new communism. this is the final stage of development of human civilization. In more detail, how and when this will happen here (http://rollm.livejournal.com/)
    1. raf
      raf 27 November 2014 22: 25
      +17
      Quote: new communist
      The future is predetermined, there will never be any socialism again, oligarchic capitalism will end in the winter of 2020, when the 3rd world thermonuclear genocide war begins, then by 2030 a new social system will be built from the remaining 300-500 million people on planet Earth. Questioned fascism, K 2070 will win the new communism. this is the final stage of development of human civilization. In more detail, how and when this will happen here (http://rollm.livejournal.com/)

      Oh and generous, are you the Russian land on d.u.r.p.a.s.o., the new communist, please forgive me, could not resist! recourse
      1. Z.A.M.
        Z.A.M. 27 November 2014 23: 00
        -12
        Quote: raf
        Oh, and generous are you, the Russian land on d.u.r.a.k.o.v,

        I agree. ....
        But how us eBo failed ...
        I remember his first "appearances" in "My Game" - th.
        Look, Than this shit. It became ... DENIMATOR laughing wassat


        Crush, like these.
        1. raf
          raf 27 November 2014 23: 13
          +8
          But, as we were told eBo ...
          As I understand you about Wasserman? But when I wrote about .. um "not very smart people", I did not mean him at all! By the way, I do not always agree with Wasserman, but he often says smart things!
          1. RUSS
            RUSS 28 November 2014 10: 03
            0
            Quote: raf
            By the way, I do not always agree with Wasserman, but he very often says smart things!


            Especially "pleasant for our ear" about the death of Ukraine.
      2. massad1
        massad1 27 November 2014 23: 18
        +3
        as Kuzmich said in "Peculiarities of the National Hunt": "Fools in Russia have been laid up for two hundred years in advance" laughing
      3. vlade99
        vlade99 28 November 2014 01: 03
        +3
        These communists were patriots of their country (unlike the current ones) And I agree about the three-year-old kids on the site.
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      5. new communist
        new communist 30 November 2014 12: 18
        0
        I understand that when there are no convincing arguments against it, it is customary to accuse opponents of stupidity, but life will judge in its own way.
    2. Starik72
      Starik72 28 November 2014 01: 33
      +4
      You are not a New Communist, and excuse me. you are a new boob. I will not even put a minus.
      1. new communist
        new communist 30 November 2014 12: 20
        0
        And why such a conclusion? Do you know the truth ???
    3. Throw
      Throw 28 November 2014 02: 15
      +2
      As the past and present show - no one could ever predict or calculate the future.
      1. new communist
        new communist 28 November 2014 10: 09
        0
        you tell Mesengu.
      2. Kassandra
        Kassandra 28 November 2014 13: 54
        0
        maybe you just don’t know such people? or a nabort of them hanging noodles on your ears here, kitty?

        history with Ukraine was forgiven another century or half a century ago, Khrushchev and Trotsky were the faithful followers of Bismarck, not to mention those who are now.
  6. Agarkov Vitaliy
    Agarkov Vitaliy 27 November 2014 22: 02
    +6
    The least bloody way out of the situation is the construction of the Stalin Canal between Canada and Mexico.

    Anatole, this is the way out of many problems created by the hands of the SGA.
    1. massad1
      massad1 27 November 2014 23: 20
      +1
      that is, it was not for me alone that this phrase was key in the article? hi
      1. Agarkov Vitaliy
        Agarkov Vitaliy 27 November 2014 23: 37
        +2
        Yes sir! Not for you alone. hi
    2. Sanmak
      Sanmak 28 November 2014 05: 16
      0
      There is no good way out. The least bloody way out of the situation is the construction of the Stalin Canal between Canada and Mexico.
      You can’t say better! soldier
  7. sabakina
    sabakina 27 November 2014 22: 06
    +9
    Guys, I'm sorry that I’m interfering and not the topic, but today there was such a circus on Antimaydan.som ... In short, antimaydan is trying to talk on Skype with Vitalik Gruzinov, a streamer and member of UNA-UNSO. You can’t watch everything, you can start at the very beginning ... We look and fall under the table ...
    1. Buran
      Buran 28 November 2014 01: 36
      +4
      Is this one of their leaders? wassat It is not troops to be brought in there, but shelves of a psychiatric medical service.
      1. nvv
        nvv 28 November 2014 02: 31
        +4
        Here, from time to time, a sound is heard, glass on glass, I conclude from this. Drinking and harming health.
        1. DRA-88
          DRA-88 28 November 2014 05: 23
          +1
          Quote: nvv
          Here, from time to time, a sound is heard, glass on glass, I conclude from this. Drinking and harming health.


          I think so too! yes
          1. nvv
            nvv 28 November 2014 06: 02
            +1
            Better to see later than never.
  8. AlNikolaich
    AlNikolaich 27 November 2014 22: 07
    +9
    Yes her. Not crap. Wasserman is pretty accurate. And I think that one should listen to his words!
    He is already a step ahead of everyone. And even though it is incomprehensible to many, it is only because we are not ripe.
    By the way, Onotolle never really was wrong!
    1. Z.A.M.
      Z.A.M. 27 November 2014 22: 54
      -7
      Quote: AlNikolaich
      By the way, Onotolle never really was wrong!
      laughing
      And you, ask him: WHERE laughing children are taken wassat

      GAW. But he is complete ...
      1. Starik72
        Starik72 28 November 2014 01: 40
        +3
        Z.A.M. ! He rose to the rank of general of the army, but he’s crazy like a battered corporal!
    2. Penelope
      Penelope 27 November 2014 23: 15
      -2
      I support your opinion.
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  9. Egoza
    Egoza 27 November 2014 22: 11
    +3
    IT socialism is good! You can’t count on a plan for the whole world, but at least for Russia. The question is different - who will implement this plan? And then socialism will remain only in the calculations.
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    2. calocha
      calocha 27 November 2014 23: 54
      +1
      Russia has experience, albeit so far unsuccessful, because it was damp (there was no one to continue the work of I.V. Stalin), and Khrushchev turned off the right track, but I think that literate people in Russia have not yet been translated ... We will rethink everything and ... Let's make it up! And this miracle program will simplify the life of Russians many times!
      1. Starik72
        Starik72 28 November 2014 01: 41
        +1
        Andrei, one hundred pounds agree with you !!!
      2. tokens2
        tokens2 28 November 2014 05: 23
        -2
        Russia has experience, albeit unsuccessful so far, because it was damp (there was no one to continue the work of I.V. Stalin)

        Do not leave the successor of their affairs?
        This is the result of Stalin's achievements. Rather ... a crown chip.
        IT socialism is inevitable

        The "wonderful" idea, even to "pack" verbally, was lazy. Wasserman. Apparently, in the future, everything will be packed by a computer. And eat. And give birth.
        Tokmo, does everyone need it?
        And this miracle program will greatly simplify the life of Russians!

        A kind of idea .. hand over brains and simplified. Socialism laughing IT is apparently an act of reception and transmission of the brain.
        And not sparing his stomach to take out the remnants of the brain.
        according to Wasserman laughing
  10. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 27 November 2014 22: 19
    +5
    Anatoly is right that only his affairs remain after the person. Egoism is not productive by definition.
  11. Stinger
    Stinger 27 November 2014 22: 23
    +1
    Good lecture.
  12. 3vs
    3vs 27 November 2014 22: 29
    -4
    Not a stupid person, Natoliy.
    The proof of the absence of God was stated by Wasserman in 2007 in the article “Dilogy of Atheism”.
    What are you gaining, Natoliy!
    You should think about how such a Natalia Wasserman grows from one cell!
    He does not have God, and what is - chaos, which for some reason still has not destroyed
    all living things on our planet?
    No, friend, not everything is so simple in our lives!
    1. 3vs
      3vs 28 November 2014 08: 59
      0
      Thank you for not throwing a shoe in your head! fellow
  13. Z.A.M.
    Z.A.M. 27 November 2014 22: 31
    -10
    Yes ... Wasserman ... How, youbecame Doctor of Medicine
    I confess - he ... contributed, because wrote laudatory comments to this ... Ghoul...
    How did he start on TV, remember?
    Total WASHED OUT, looked around, eyes ran ...
    Look at it now GA.O
    Eyes are burning, saliva is splashing, anger is overwhelming EVO. On Ren TV.
    Accuser... laughing
    Crazy mu.dak ...
    Parasite.
    .

    ...
    ...
    ..I am disappointed myself.

    Here is an example.
    Even pot-bellied, hairy, dirty, funny - can for some time, become By the erudite country.
    And ... EVEN, cloud the brain.
    I am ashamed that I IT (in Vysserman), supported ...
    ...
    Couple to the "toad" NOVODVORSKAYA.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 28 November 2014 10: 16
      0
      Quote: Z.A.M.
      Look at this now.
      Eyes burn, saliva splashes, anger overwhelms EVO. On Ren TV.


      He lacks a woman, he is still a virgin, I think his psyche is definitely not all right.
  14. akula
    akula 27 November 2014 22: 50
    +2
    Quote: new communist
    The future is predetermined, there will never be any socialism again, oligarchic capitalism will end in the winter of 2020, when the 3rd world thermonuclear genocide war begins, then by 2030 a new social system will be built from the remaining 300-500 million people on planet Earth. Questioned fascism, K 2070 will win the new communism. this is the final stage of development of human civilization. In more detail, how and when this will happen here (http://rollm.livejournal.com/)

    Cool, the end of the world is right, where does the predictor come from? By the way, in all incomprehensible and troubled times, people were waiting for the end of the world, weak people, of course. 100% everything will go completely wrong. Love life !!!!!
    1. calocha
      calocha 27 November 2014 23: 48
      0
      With a finger sucked! laughing
    2. new communist
      new communist 28 November 2014 10: 11
      0
      Cool, the end of the world is right, where does the predictor come from? By the way, in all incomprehensible and troubled times, people were waiting for the end of the world, weak people, of course. 100% everything will go completely wrong. Love life !!!!! ---- In May 1941 also did not believe in world war.
  15. Ivan 63
    Ivan 63 27 November 2014 23: 02
    0
    Wasserman is smart and certainly his opinion is not an empty phrase, I agree with almost all of his statements and assumptions, perhaps except for one thing, but who said that his "computer socialism" is not the Providence of God?
  16. sabakina
    sabakina 27 November 2014 23: 03
    +2
    I’m watching the topic ... Apparently such Vitaliks are sitting on our forum ... Okay. Tomorrow I will open this topic separately ... (once again I'm sorry that is not the topic).
  17. calocha
    calocha 27 November 2014 23: 47
    +2
    Anatoly is a bright head! Clearly and clearly sets out his thoughts. May God grant him health!
  18. ldimon
    ldimon 28 November 2014 00: 10
    +1
    Anatoly burns as always. Scrabble and analyst.
  19. Drshan
    Drshan 28 November 2014 00: 30
    +6
    Quote: akula
    Quote: new communist
    The future is predetermined, there will never be any socialism again, oligarchic capitalism will end in the winter of 2020, when the 3rd world thermonuclear genocide war begins, then by 2030 a new social system will be built from the remaining 300-500 million people on planet Earth. Questioned fascism, K 2070 will win the new communism. this is the final stage of development of human civilization. In more detail, how and when this will happen here (http://rollm.livejournal.com/)

    Cool, the end of the world is right, where does the predictor come from? By the way, in all incomprehensible and troubled times, people were waiting for the end of the world, weak people, of course. 100% everything will go completely wrong. Love life !!!!!

    I looked at his link. To what is called the primary sources. Firstly, illiteracy is limitless. Secondly, the practical lack of logic. Thirdly, just nonsense, fantastic nonsense. And does someone believe in ETU fiction?
    1. new communist
      new communist 28 November 2014 10: 13
      0
      And does someone believe in ETU fiction? You are in 2021, with any luck!
    2. new communist
      new communist 28 November 2014 10: 16
      0
      Secondly, the practical lack of logic. Thirdly, just nonsense, fantastic nonsense. --- The most amazing thing is that no one has arguably refuted a single paragraph, and so.
      1. Kassandra
        Kassandra 28 November 2014 14: 18
        0
        well, why absolutely no one, look better - at least refuted two.
    3. RUSS
      RUSS 28 November 2014 10: 17
      0
      Quote: DrShAN
      And does someone believe in ETU fiction?


      A good half of forum users ... oh, these storytellers!
  20. Throw
    Throw 28 November 2014 02: 11
    +1
    "... the way out of the situation is the construction of the Stalin canal between Canada and Mexico." - this is a long time ago, they were not told, but now it is especially important am
    1. mivmim
      mivmim 28 November 2014 03: 47
      +1
      Having spilled between Canada and Mexico, say Comrade Kurchatov ...
      1. Kassandra
        Kassandra 28 November 2014 14: 21
        0
        there is also a signature of the vote on this issue under the photograph:
        Yes - yes, I do not mind, comrade Stalin
        No - no, I do not mind, comrade Stalin
        laughing
        Well, something like this...
  21. Cpa
    Cpa 28 November 2014 02: 28
    0
    Regarding foresight, Wasserman does not understand that for TNCs the new technological structure does not provide for mass participation of a person in production, which means that education and healthcare are no longer a strategic industry for maintaining labor productivity. It will not be otherwise unless they return to the teachings of Engels and Lenin where labor is the main measure of added value.
    1. Oldwiser
      Oldwiser 28 November 2014 15: 01
      +1
      Added value is a bourgeois term (it is not clear what caused this very "value addition"). Therefore, Marxism speaks of "surplus product" as a result of capitalist exploitation of wage labor by capital - labor is embodied in the product as "labor time socially necessary for production", and the cost of the spent labor power - that is, goes into costs. the cost of reproduction (or amortization) of an employee's working capacity for a given working time.
      1. Cpa
        Cpa 28 November 2014 17: 24
        +1
        The concept of surplus value is based on the assessment of value, as materialized labor, which assumes that the value of the goods does not depend on supply and demand and is determined by the amount of labor invested (see. Labor theory of value). In the framework of this theory, Karl Marx introduced the concept of surplus value - as the difference between the new value created in the process of labor (the excess of the labor cost of a commodity over the value of previously materialized labor - raw materials, materials, equipment) and the cost of labor (usually expressed in the form of wages), which was used to create this new value. The source of surplus value, according to Marx, is the continued consumption of labor power longer than the time during which its own value is reproduced.
        Marx divided the surplus value by:
        Absolute: created by lengthening the working day;
        relative: it arises due to the reduction in the cost of labor and the reduction of necessary working time, which leads to a change in the ratio of time between necessary and surplus labor within the same working day.
  22. avvg
    avvg 28 November 2014 02: 31
    +4
    WASSERMAN A. speaks and writes the truth on his blog, in addition, he does not hide the fact that he was also a liberal in the 90s. He reconsidered his views consciously, moved away from the liberals. Anatolia clever and patriot with a large letter.
    1. nvv
      nvv 28 November 2014 02: 41
      0
      Well, all together, ears spread, better for good, clap your hands, you !!!! .... There was such a song.
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 28 November 2014 10: 18
        0
        Quote: nvv
        Well, all together, ears spread, better for good, clap your hands, you !!!! .... There was such a song.


        good
    2. DRA-88
      DRA-88 28 November 2014 05: 30
      +1
      Quote: avvg
      Anatolia clever and patriot with a large letter.

      And the government with the president with what letter are patriots ?!
  23. Leonidych
    Leonidych 28 November 2014 03: 08
    +2
    typical situation, the Jew Wasserman adapted to the new situation, but he is a Jew ....
  24. Lyton
    Lyton 28 November 2014 04: 23
    +1
    Yes, you can read it for general development, but taking everything on faith is stupid, every person is mistaken, time will tell that from his chatter will turn out to be true.
    1. nvv
      nvv 28 November 2014 04: 34
      +3
      I proceed from the simplest. Who is promoted and who is blamed. Until it fails.
      1. DRA-88
        DRA-88 28 November 2014 05: 37
        +2
        Quote: nvv
        I proceed from the simplest. Who is promoted and who is blamed. Until it fails.

        Dear NVV, I put you well-deserved +
  25. makano
    makano 28 November 2014 04: 33
    +3
    Wasserman was a market-maker - in Soviet times, he condemned Stalin, and when historical backups were required for the current government to be completely bourgeois, he reconsidered his attitude only to Stalin, but not to everyone. In his concept of computer socialism, he, like many anti-communists, found his own original way of replacing the communist ideology with computer intelligence, which will force the capitalists to abandon ownership of the means of production, appropriation of the results of labor and human exploitation by man
  26. saag
    saag 28 November 2014 05: 40
    +2
    And only recently, Wasserman's articles were "approved" here on the site, somehow inconsistently, gentlemen :-)
    1. nvv
      nvv 28 November 2014 05: 58
      +2
      Quote: saag
      And only recently, Wasserman's articles were "approved" here on the site, somehow inconsistently, gentlemen :-)

      And I don’t go back down. Every time I read, I scoop up something important for myself. It doesn’t mean that I have to follow all his recommendations. Respectfully.
      1. DRA-88
        DRA-88 28 November 2014 06: 04
        +1
        Quote: nvv
        But I don’t go back down. Every time I read something I draw for myself something important.

        This science is difficult LIFE !!!
        Really, Victor ?! wink
        1. nvv
          nvv 28 November 2014 06: 16
          +1
          Quote: DRA-88
          Quote: nvv
          But I don’t go back down. Every time I read something I draw for myself something important.

          This science is difficult LIFE !!!
          Really, Victor ?! wink

          So sure Waldemar!
          Live a century, study a century ...... look at this, already in the past, but informative.
      2. dmb
        dmb 28 November 2014 08: 50
        +3
        Let me interfere in your dialogue. "Then the famous polymath answered the questions of the Sergiev Posad residents: what is the meaning of life, who is Navalny, is there a future for bitcoin and Ukraine, why is he sure that there is no God.", - Iokannan Marusidze terribly disliked this form fooling citizens, because usually two more questions were asked: "Are you Jewish?" and "Why is there no animal oil on sale?" However, for all his intelligence, Wasserman Bender does not surpass. Above it was justly written that what was so fateful that the "prophet" told the trusting Sergievites for 500 rubles? All that he said could have been found earlier in the "prophets"-competitors whom he successfully kicked in his speech, as well as in the mass of other similar "prophets" such as Mukhin, Korovin and Nikonov and Markov. From fresh, perhaps only computer socialism. However, this is also not new. Previously, his place was taken by the God denied by "Wasik". Only in this case, the people were asked to humbly wait for the Last Judgment, and according to Vasik, just as humbly, it was necessary to wait for the computer to disaccustom the Serdyukovs to steal.
    2. Oldwiser
      Oldwiser 29 November 2014 21: 38
      0
      it means that the composition of the site's audience is still changing - there are enemies and just thinking people, and not just "urrya-patriots"
  27. tokens2
    tokens2 28 November 2014 06: 26
    0
    In fact, production cannot do without man. Man is the main means of production.

    Man is a measure of production.
    And now in production, the measure is a monkey. Grab. Grab.
    the logic of state standards is required to provide that a person should be able to relearn when changing production.

    "Retraining" is why man became a means of production.
    Costs. At what not small. And the main.
    And we are all relearned due to language and differences in mentality.
    For there is
    state standard logic

    Darwin created this "monkey labor tool" for production.
    But this is not at all a "gift" for a person, but rather the beginning of a career laughing on the way of a person to the "director" chair.
  28. meriem1
    meriem1 28 November 2014 07: 58
    +1
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Wasserman writes quite well .. But judging by how he sang before (and who he was ..) I am very wary of him .. Don’t be blameworthy (but his fellow tribesmen usually keep quiet ..))) hi He’s holding a gun in the photo .. ..Who was going to shoot ..?

    Wasserman-figure is not unambiguous, but do not change their mind in view of the variability of the world, only clinical half-wits.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 28 November 2014 10: 20
      0
      Quote: meriem1
      Wasserman-figure is not unambiguous, but do not change their mind in view of the variability of the world, only clinical half-wits.


      Not a changeable world should influence a person, but a person on the world.
  29. Throw
    Throw 28 November 2014 12: 10
    0
    Wasserman Evidence))
    -Do not say 10 Posadsky-five thousand)
  30. Codename49
    Codename49 28 November 2014 17: 58
    -1
    Socialists fed escho will be Russia for a very long time we will not forget the bloody 70 years !!!
    1. Vlad5307
      Vlad5307 30 November 2014 18: 14
      0
      you are illiterate - you confuse socialism with illiterate rulers! No less blood has been shed in the United States, and if you recall the history of the "development" of America by Europeans, then there is nothing to compare with but with fascism !!! One must know history and not be afraid, but one must look to the future !!!
      And the future lies with socialism, in this I agree with Wasserman! hi