Sergei Shoigu put forward a proposal to improve the mobilization skills of mayors and governors

Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu put forward a proposal for mandatory military training for regional leaders, which they will have to do at the Academy of the General Staff, reports Kommersant. During the training, the governors will receive "minimal basics" for managing the region in the event of the outbreak of war: they will receive only theoretical training.

According to Shoigu, this should also affect representatives of federal authorities. The minister suggested that the president fix this duty with amendments to the law or a relevant decree.

The reason for this initiative was the results of the September maneuvers "Vostok-2014", during which Shoigu noted the "unwillingness to work in wartime conditions" of the Sakhalin Governor Alexander Khoroshavin, who was unable to organize the timely call of the vaults.

“Regional authorities often do not realize the importance of military exercises, preferring to lower incoming instructions (the Ministry of Defense) on the brakes, because they simply do not know what to do and how to do it,” said a source in the General Staff.

Shoigu was commented on by Vladimir Komoyedov, the head of the State Duma’s defense committee (CPRF), who called it “wise and perfectly correct.”

According to him, “Russia is not Switzerland and not France” - “this is a huge country,” so the heads of the subjects, including “many young people”, should know how to act if necessary.

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[Agarkov Vitaliy]

Well done, Shoigu! Correct solution!

[hedgehog in the fog]

Quote: Vitaliy Agarkov

Well done, Shoigu! Correct solution!

and also to force them to comply with the TRP standards, did not wait for re-distribution, the second time, did not wait for deductions from official structures

[tolancop]

The head of the region is a manager. It can be fat and clumsy, but with a bright head. His task is not to run through the fields like a saiga, but to ORGANIZE the work. T.ch. TRP standards do not need him.
But Shoigu's proposal is correct. And then there are mobile plans, but the knowledge and skills in their application is clearly not enough.

[aviamed90]

tolancop

"And then there are mob plans, but there is clearly not enough knowledge and skills in their application."

You really sure what they are after the "reform" of the military commissariats arranged by Serdyukov?

[Blondy]

When you look at the government, everything is normal and clear with Shoigu at any post - you can see it with the simple eye. The rest have either tricks with troubles (and it’s easier, as it were, people hunt so that they do not immediately understand) or simply schizoid quirks (such as constant summer time, synchronous celebration of Victory Day Moscow time across the country). Shoigu is once again "throwing nails" in the sense of being a prime minister, especially since the situation is increasingly looking like an emergency.

[ziqzaq]

Quote: Blondy

When you look at the government, everything is normal and clear with Shoigu at any post - you can see it with the simple eye. The rest have either tricks with troubles (and it’s easier, as it were, people hunt so that they do not immediately understand) or simply schizoid quirks (such as constant summer time, synchronous celebration of Victory Day Moscow time across the country). Shoigu is once again "throwing nails" in the sense of being a prime minister, especially since the situation is increasingly looking like an emergency.

I agree, it will soon smell like something ... More and more, the situation resembles a pre-war .....
Here is a hunchbacked, very bad person .... Traitor ....

[svp67]

Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu put forward a proposal for mandatory military training for regional leaders, which they will have to go through at the General Staff Academy,

Shoigu well done !!! Earlier, at the Academy, the Ministry of Emergency Situations organized training for specialists in mobilizing local self-government bodies, released a lot of literature, but now I decided to take on the top officials of the regions. The point is, to understand how to carry out work to strengthen the defenses NEED ...

[Vladimirets]

"Unavailability to work in wartime conditions" of the Sakhalin governor Alexander Khoroshavin, who was unable to organize a timely call for storekeepers.

And I thought that these military enlistment offices could not organize the call.

[Oleg NSK]

... well, then, the storerooms are catching fish ... Putin however ... the fish will not wait, he will leave
... but in general I thought that in wartime, the chief of staff of the military district should manage all these matters ... including mobilization ... and the real power should be transferred to him, in case of military operations .... and these only underfoot will interfere

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Oleg NSK

in wartime, the chief of staff of the military district must manage, all these matters

This is a fact, and in this case the military registration and enlistment office, which reports to whom?

[svp67]

Quote: Vladimirets

This is a fact, and in this case the military registration and enlistment office, which reports to whom?

In the current reality, to the governor, since the military registration and enlistment office is ONE in the region, now the departments of the VK region (region) are in the district. In areas of NO Military Commissars, there are Heads of Departments, and even then not all. Now, often such Heads of Departments oversee several districts, and in those areas or other municipalities where there are no such divisions, the Military Accounting Tables under administrations ...

[Vladimirets]

Quote: svp67

In the current reality - to the governor,

The military enlistment office of the region is part of the structure of the Moscow Region and is subordinate to the organizational management of the district. Our governors do not yet command the districts. And local authorities at various levels in peacetime assist in the mobilization of military commissariats. On the other hand, maybe the military registration and enlistment offices did everything that depended on them, and local authorities failed the whole thing, xs.

[svp67]

Quote: Vladimirets

And local authorities at various levels in peacetime assist in the mobilization of military commissariats.

All with accuracy on a turn. This MOVU provide assistance and assistance in organizing mobilization events, since the full responsibility for their organization and conduct lies with the Head of the self-government body. Only His orders are valid for local officials and entrepreneurs.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: svp67

All with accuracy on a turn. This MOVU provide assistance and assistance in organizing mobilization events, since the full responsibility for their organization and conduct lies with the Head of the self-government body. Only His orders are valid for local officials and entrepreneurs.

I will not argue with you, maybe I misunderstand something.

[your1970]

TO NATIVE MO !!! He needs a local governor or a municipality to a light bulb ... Apparently, the authorities should have left everything and started to store the storerooms at the military registration and enlistment office (and without measures of influence, the local authorities simply do not have them)

[svp67]

Quote: your1970

TO NATIVE MO !!! He is a local governor or municipality to a light bulb ...

Now the Military Commissariat is officially called the Local Authority of Military Administration and is governed by civilians. All officials of the MOVU are civilian, albeit former military. And they are DIRECTLY subordinate to the Governor.

[your1970]

and then something in ours in uniform goes and does not even want to mow under civil
"Ministry of Defense of Russia heads and unites the system of military command and control bodies of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, which is being created in relation to the main links in the organizational structure of the Armed Forces. This system consists of:

a) the central bodies of military administration included in the Russian Ministry of Defense;

b) bodies of military command and control of the Armed Forces;

c) bodies of military command and control of the armed forces of the Armed Forces;

d) bodies of military command of military districts;

e) bodies of military command and control of formations and military units;

f) local military authorities (military commissariats).
Show me the word MAYOR or GOVERNOR here ....

[svp67]

Quote: your1970

and then something in ours in uniform goes and does not even want to mow under civil

Many simply understand that without them no one will perceive much. And besides, they have the right, since upon dismissal they have the right to wear the uniform. But believe me, he is already a pensioner ...

[your1970]

32 years, major, not a pilot and never been in hot spots (no benefits), no pension
It is necessary to pass his cops
1. Illegal wearing of uniforms with insignia, with the symbols of state militarized organizations, law enforcement or regulatory authorities - shall entail the imposition of an administrative fine in the amount of one thousand to one thousand five hundred rubles with confiscation of uniforms, insignia, symbols of state militarized organizations, law enforcement or regulatory authorities .

[svp67]

Quote: Oleg NSK

and real power should pass to him

In places, that is, in areas to the HEADS OF LOCAL SELF-GOVERNMENT BODIES.

[svp67]

Quote: Vladimirets

And I thought that these military enlistment offices could not organize the call.

The organization of the CALL for active service in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and the call for conservatives, a small part of mobilization events, are two different things. A call to the real one - it is MUCH easier to organize, since neither the number of those called up, nor the volume of organized events vary by TIME ...

[Drew]

On the one hand, it seems to be true. And on the other hand, a clear and sufficient instruction that must be followed if necessary

[svp67]

Quote: Drew

And on the other hand, a clear and sufficient instruction that must be followed if necessary

No, not enough. All this must not only be "chewed", but also clearly shown and brought to a "common understanding" so that there are NO DIFFERENCES.

[Drew]

this is a party line. This is not the same with military training.

[svp67]

Quote: Drew

this is a party line. This is not the same with military training.

You know, I dealt with this issue, so I know what I'm talking about, but even now you don’t understand what you’re talking about. MILITARY and MOBILIZATION training are two different things.

[Boris55]

Quote: Drew

... sufficient and clear instructions must be followed if necessary

Shoigu does everything right: "An organ that does not exercise, atrophies"

No instruction can predict the actions of performers, because one writes, and the other performs ...

Much has been written on paper, as well as on a fence, but how it will actually be is a completely different question. Power is, first of all, the ability to implement management in practice. Here are the mayors in practice and will show what they and their administrative staff are capable of. Perhaps they will even find out where their bomb houses are, what condition they are in, who, for how much and to whom "leased them".

[tolancop]

I do not agree. Good instruction is half the battle. But for its implementation, you still need to KNOW what it says and BE ABLE to apply this instruction in practice.
When he approves, there will be no time to read the instructions in detail.
And one more thing: for the implementation of any instruction it is necessary that material means allow it to be executed. If on the fingers: there probably is a clause in the instructions regarding communication - notify one-another-third. There is no communication channel - the instructions can be hung in the toilet on the carnation. T.ch. you need to pre-engage in the organization and constant maintenance of the communication channel, and also a couple of backups is not bad. And to conduct exercises regularly, at least staff.

И

[Giant thought]

The right decision, because the mistakes of senior leaders in wartime are too expensive for the people and the state.

[ksendzov1971]

I agree! We must be able to fight! And for this we need preparation! And let the theory exams pass!

[Prager]

the right decision and timely - officials will have less stomachs!

[GUS]

Quote: Prager

the right decision and timely - officials will have less stomachs!

Here you have to work with your head, and here is the belly.

[svp67]

Quote: GUS

Here you have to work with your head, and here is the belly.

Not only will you have to "run". Although from a lot of mental work - the stomach can also fall

[Ruswolf]

I think that for most governors and mayors, including Khoroshavin (I know about his activities when he was mayor), training should begin with a private in the penal company.
In order to immediately have a clear example of what will happen if they continue to be so related to their duties!

[victorrat]

Very timely! Still, the mayors at the regional level should not be trained in civil defense, where they mostly sleep, but in actions in conditions close to the military. Those. emergency situations.

[pahom54]

Quote: victorrat

Very timely! Still, the mayors at the regional level should not be trained in civil defense, where they mostly sleep, but in actions in conditions close to the military. Those. emergency situations.

As an example, I can cite the fact that our "mayor" allowed the closure of the bakery in the regional center (and this is also mobilization readiness), and the military registration and enlistment office, no matter how opposed to this closure, could not do anything ... Now we eat bread brought from others regional centers ...
Here is an example of how business undermines the country's mobilization readiness ...
And such examples cannot be counted ... Last year, in the Far East, during the exercise, there was something a problem with the use of a civil airfield, and the air defense division was also cut off electricity ...
I hope that at the courses these governors and mayors will not only be taught the basics of mobility, but they will also popularly explain what their actions (or INACTIONS) can be equated with treason to the Motherland or undermining its fighting ability ...

[tolancop]

There is a problem of conflicts of interests between business and state’s mobile plans. But, in fairness, it must be recognized that the conflict of interests has arisen and exists largely due to the position of the state.
In Soviet times, many enterprises had excess production capacities designed specifically to ensure the mobilization capabilities of the state. While the enterprises were state-owned, there was no problem.
But for private traders, excess power is a guard. Keeping them in good condition is a cost. Plus property taxes. Plus depreciation charges .... And the question arises: why should a private trader pay from his pocket for the maintenance of equipment that he does not need, and so on? Does the state need? Then it is logical for the state to bear the costs.
I don’t know, maybe something has changed now, but 20 years ago the issue of taxation of the capacities of the mobile reserve was quite acute. I heard complaints from the heads of several enterprises: "We do not need them, they are not allowed to get rid of them, but TAXES require ..."

[Gomel]

Wow, I remember half of the Runet laughing at Lukashenko, because he, like, actually introduced the governor general in the Republic of Belarus, still important in 2011, by the way ...

In general, the right thing. Necessary even in peacetime.


"3.11.2011
On Thursday, November 3, President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko awarded the rank of Major General to the governors of all regions and the Mayor of Minsk. The Belarusian leader made this decision because the regional defense councils are subordinate to the regional leaders.

Now, according to Alexander Lukashenko, each governor is “responsible for territorial defense”. “And this is his right, having informed the president, to deploy all territorial defense. If the president approves, let him expand, ”the BelTA news agency quoted the president as saying.

Territorial troops, according to Lukashenko, are the most effective means of state defense. Therefore, the country's leader instructed to regularly conduct exercises in Minsk on territorial defense on the basis of one of the districts. “All this is very serious, and not because we are afraid of something there. We need to ensure the security of our country, ”Lukashenko said.

The president advised officials to promote the ideas of territorial defense more widely. “We need to prepare the population so that it can fulfill its functions at the right time. This will be the most effective defense of our state, ”Lukashenka explained. The Belarusian leader announced his decisions regarding the country's defense when he visited the stationary command post of the headquarters of the territorial defense zone in Minsk. "

http://www.belta.by/ru/all_news/president/Lukashenko-territorialnye-vojska-javlj

ajutsja-effektivnym-sredstvom-oborony-gosudarstva_i_580596.html

http://www.belta.by/ru/all_news/president/Sozdannaja-v-Belarusi-sistema-zaschity
-ot-vneshnix-ugroz-vyderzhala-ispytanie-na-prochnost --- Lukashenko_i_580848.html

[GUS]

These idiots laughed.

[Peyrat]

So after all, this knowledge is very useful in civil work, so far, after all, the best business book is “The Art of War” by Sun Tzu. The essence of management and decision making is the same everywhere.

[ZKB]

everything is correct. Recall the WWII, the man on the ground played an important role both in mobilizing and evacuating the population and industry and in forming the partisan movement. Where there were people who knew, there were fewer losses. Now the world is preparing for an open war, so the heads of the regions must be professionals

[Batia]

Mustache is absolutely correct. It is necessary to be able to act in extreme situations. One instruction is not enough. It is also necessary to think. I’m not sure that our governors at least served an urgent, not talking about the military department. Make the right decision when everyone is waiting for your team around, and the devil knows what’s going on around, you need to be able to, or learn.

[raid14]

In a situation of repeating the beginning of the Second World War, this is vital if the governors at the regional level do not provide mob.readiness, transport, evacuation of enterprises and the population, we will pay millions of lives.

[Penelope]

Although there will be theoretical training, it would not hurt to climb them in a plastunsky way.

[ODERVIT]

I support. Mobilization, one of the most difficult components of military construction. I know from personal experience. It is difficult to understand it with a snap, without fundamental knowledge. For many, it remains a problem area. The way to learn and learn.
My wife works at school. So, in a short period of time, this work has captured them. The audience was skeptical, with irony. Not even two or three workouts and things went smoothly. Of course, I don’t laugh a lot, it’s funny to watch how they, aunties, are engaged in alerts, but with each training session it’s getting better and better .....

[Ober.K]

"Everything new is well forgotten old!" Shoigu is already doing fine in that he does not lose touch with the past but takes everything useful from it, transforms it into current realities and implements it in life. WELL DONE!!!

[FACKtoREAL]

Interestingly, will the governor of Alaska be trained, like our potential region too?
Actually, what to ask him?! ... to summon (signed by Putin) to Moscow - to the General Staff!
Commanders, of course, have to pay in dollars ...
BUT, the matter requires TOGO!
Victory, as you know, is forged in the rear, well, and in the enemy - ALSO!

[aviamed90]

From the Academy of the General Staff of the Armed Forces, they did advanced training courses for officials instead of engaging in their direct business - to train officers and generals of an operational-strategic and strategic level.

And for civil officials of this rank, courses at the regional military commissariats are enough.
It would be much more useful and cheaper.

[tolancop]

From my point of view, the question is incorrect. The fundamental question is: to teach or not? The answer is unequivocal - to learn! But where to learn is already secondary. There are also governors under the General Staff; in the end there are not so many of them. District leaders - in offices at a level lower than, say, regional or district courses ...

[EREMA]

fell - squeezed out - go to the governors ...

[Borman 79]

It is high time. We must not forget the Soviet experience.

[STALGRAD76]

Well, if it means that Shoigu is aware of what kind of "breaking" the municipal authorities will have to do, since the existing departments for mob work are not taken seriously and are considered an anachronism due to a misunderstanding hanging by a yoke on the balance sheet of the city, municipal and private equipment assigned to mob events is only listed and hardly used / d, there are plans on paper, of course, only the directors of enterprises perceive this as a formality, and if the plans say that at the hour "H" he and the management should prepare property and people for evacuation, then it is clear that these people will simply be shoved in an unknown direction ... ...
I'm sorry, I read the article again , a speech about the leaders of the regions, I represent the head of Chukotka in the class on mob training according to his personal plan, he will probably attend to his boat remotely

[your1970]

The people still perceive everything by Soviet standards, we don’t already have Soviet ANYTHING !!!!!
Where will the owner of the local vehicle fleet send the military commissar (who have all the cars around the country) or the leader whose workers are pulled from production (not counting the words of the men themselves - who will be told either to leave or hide from the military commissar himself) ??? of the censored words only "you" and "on" will be ....
In the event of war, the country will face a colossus of private property, not those governance structures, not those relationships, and people are not the same anymore. It’s trivial that no one knows exactly where this or that person is located (registered in one place, lives in another, works at all dash somewhere find him commissar ...)

And the people in the VO were immediately delighted, "let the mayors crawl on the belly, he did not serve in the army .." instead of a serious discussion of the problem

[020205]

I don’t know, I don’t have a one-to-one relationship with Shoigu, he can be said to have fallen apart!

[Nitarius]

It would be nice if the governors participated in the teachings ....
The generals are preparing for past wars ..... in WARS OF THE FUTURE in MILLIONAIRE CITIES.
Since taking into account urbanization - soon the main population will be in the CITIES!
and GOVERNORS need to learn in EMERGENCY OPTIONS TO MANAGE THEIR REGIONS and regional centers!

[your1970]

how to manage? in what kind of war - nuclear, non-nuclear, terrorist?
who declared ISIS, USA, Nepal / Australia / Ukraine?
By the way, if anything - our cities are million-plus, everything is far from the border, and if it reaches them, then we have already worked out the enemy by all means and means (including nuclear weapons) and we no longer have an army (her enemy, sir ...)

[alexandrovich]

Our Minister of Defense!

[PATRIOT 13]

it means to be ...

[Throw]

If you want peace, prepare for war.
And you can start with the training mobilization of jeeps from fleets of governors and mayors

[Alex-80]

They will benefit not only managerial theory, but practical exercises in the field, led by Zhirinovsky

[Felix-A]

It would be nice for all the state. officials through fees "drive away" and preferably not in their regions, but rotationally by regions