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Russian BMP "Kurganets-25" with thermal imagers and locators

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An infantry fighting vehicle based on an average unified platform called the Kurganets-25 will be the first Russian infantry fighting vehicle, in which the crew will be separated from the module with ammunition and armament, reports "Messenger of Mordovia".

Russian BMP "Kurganets-25" with thermal imagers and locators


This machine will be equipped with an 30-mm 2-42 automatic cannon. Earlier it was reported that a new nomenclature of projectiles will be created for the ammunition, among which there will be “smart” ones with the possibility of undermining at the necessary point, which will allow destroying the enemy's living force with high efficiency.

In addition, the gun will be paired with an 7.62-mm PKT machine gun with ammunition for 2000 cartridges. The BMP will also equip the Kornet ATGM with a range of 8000-10000 m.

All this will be controlled by a modern fire control system with the ability to automatically search for targets in different spectral ranges in active and passive mode. Camouflaged targets will help detect the optical locator.

It is possible that in the future 25-mm and even 40-mm artillery weapons will appear on the Kurganz-57.

Currently, militarily advanced states are developing so-called "electrothermochemical instruments." Russia did not stand aside, so in the long run such a gun can appear on the Kurganz, as this machine will serve at least another quarter of a century.
Photos used:
http://vestnik-rm.ru/
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  1. Civil
    Civil 21 November 2014 12: 17
    +8
    FIRST PICTURE ??? !!! The case is similar to the Puma, the engine in front ... modular booking!
    1. Giant thought
      Giant thought 21 November 2014 12: 22
      +4
      A good car came out, now we need an active supply to the troops to replace obsolete equipment as soon as possible.
      1. Stalevar
        Stalevar 21 November 2014 12: 23
        +42
        But the picture is not BMP, this is self-propelled guns. I understand the platform is unified. But why accompany the text about the infantry fighting vehicle with such an illustration?
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 21 November 2014 12: 26
          +24
          Quote: Stalevar
          But the picture is not BMP, this is self-propelled guns.

          That's for sure. The caliber is clearly not 30mm.
          1. Stalevar
            Stalevar 21 November 2014 12: 27
            +4
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            That's for sure. The caliber is clearly not 30mm.

            At the sight of 122 mm.
          2. Kars
            Kars 21 November 2014 12: 34
            +4
            similar to the Englishman FV433
            and maybe a Swede / Pole
          3. tomket
            tomket 21 November 2014 12: 52
            +2
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            That's for sure. The caliber is clearly not 30mm.

            And not even 57 mm)))))
        2. UralMan
          UralMan 21 November 2014 12: 38
          +5
          http://survincity.com/2010/03/in-poland-may-start-to-develop…

          In Poland can begin to develop in a 50-ton tank
          Based on the Polish multipurpose platform, "Anders" is unlikely to be a tank of the latest generation. The Polish military rightly doubted the ability to create this battle of machines weighing up to 30 tons. Because, apparently, the recent start of work on a main battle tank weighing up to 50 tons.

          This is not the first attempt by the Poles to make a tank of this class. In the 90s they already worked on the main battle tank PT-94 "gorilla".

          Machine weight must be between 50 and 55 tons. Outside, he was next to the most advanced tank, then to the west - the French "Leclerc", in particular, he seems to have been taken as an object to follow.



          And the image from here ....
          1. Aleks tv
            Aleks tv 21 November 2014 12: 49
            +6
            Quote: UralChel
            Based on the Polish multipurpose platform, Anders

            Ага.
            Pictured is the Polish LC-08 Anders.
            He has a lot of development now, if not mistaken then this one with the Belgian CT-CV tower (105mm.)
            By the way, Indians are interested in this platform ...

            And where does Kurganets-25?
            1. UralMan
              UralMan 22 November 2014 11: 27
              0
              I think the author simply inserted the first photo in the text to give a solid article, no more ...
              Of course, this is a puncture of the author ...
              Yes, and the article is so ... something from a finger.

              So somewhere I read something well, I posted an article ...
              So the information for the forum discussion, I think no more ...
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          3. UralMan
            UralMan 22 November 2014 11: 36
            0
            Used photos: http: //vestnik-rm.ru/

            Discover ... what article link to
            Messenger of Mordovia
            Photo BMP not found there hi
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        4. AQUARIUS 65
          AQUARIUS 65 21 November 2014 13: 05
          +9
          Stalevar
          But in the picture it’s not BMP, it’s self-propelled guns

          Yes, this is really not "Kurganets". I didn't find photos, but there is a drawing (clickable).
          1. Penelope
            Penelope 21 November 2014 13: 21
            0
            The main thing is that the mass grave of the infantry does not come out again.
          2. Zaslavsky-S
            Zaslavsky-S 21 November 2014 13: 37
            +3
            Quote: AQUARIUS 65
            Stalevar
            But in the picture it’s not BMP, it’s self-propelled guns

            Yes, this is really not "Kurganets". I didn't find photos, but there is a drawing (clickable).

            Huge dead zone. From 10 to 2 hours.
        5. shurik
          shurik 21 November 2014 13: 35
          +4
          I agree, talk about one thing, and show OTHER. Somehow not very.
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    4. avt
      avt 21 November 2014 12: 24
      +3
      Quote: Civil
      FIRST PICTURE ??? !!!

      Aha - the so-called "electrothermochemical tools". " laughing Camping on "Kurganets" will be staged by "Berezhok".
      1. domokl
        domokl 21 November 2014 12: 51
        +2
        Psheks now op will raise laughing Russian spionerilos light tank of the Poles laughing Something I did not see the real these very Kurgan ... Who can show what kind of beast?
      2. Chicot 1
        Chicot 1 21 November 2014 13: 42
        +2
        Quote: avt
        Camping on the Kurganets will be staged by the Berezhok

        BMP based on "Kurganets" (as well as armored personnel carriers based on "Boomerang" and heavy infantry fighting vehicles based on "Armata") are planned to equip the combat module "Epoch" (under this name it is mentioned in the open press). The Epoch's armament will comprise a 30-mm automatic artillery system (the type is not reported, but we have two - 2A42 and 2A72), a 7,62-mm coaxial machine gun (unambiguously PKMT) and 2 ATGM launchers (the type of ATGM is not reported, but presumably it will be "Cornet").
        It would be logical to assume that the development of the Epoch will take into account the experience of working on the Berezhk and other combat modules. It is only known for certain that it will be uninhabited.
        The armament of the BMP based on "Kurganets" with combat modules with 57-mm artillery systems has not yet been reported. Although, in the future (in my humble understanding), it is possible to equip some machines with such modules ...
        1. Aleks tv
          Aleks tv 21 November 2014 14: 01
          +1
          Quote: Chicot 1
          unambiguously PKMT

          Vasily, I’ll slightly correct, if not against:
          PKTM.
          hi
      3. Gans1234
        Gans1234 21 November 2014 21: 41
        0
        And what about robotic guidance systems for machine guns and cannons on the principle of pointing - forgot ??
    5. Papakiko
      Papakiko 21 November 2014 12: 34
      +2
      Quote: Civil
      FIRST PICTURE ??? !!! The body of the Puma is similar

      Something like a fake painfully.
      30 mm automatic cannon 2A42 And in the photo we see at least 100 mlm.
      Quote: kit-kat
      Something I am confused by the strictly vertical sides.

      And these are already reserved places for "modernization" (Camouflage screens, etc.)
      The rollers from 72ki are impressive.
      Let's wait a bit and everything will open.
    6. frost1979
      frost1979 21 November 2014 12: 34
      +3
      Quote: Civil
      FIRST PICTURE ??? !!! The case is similar to the Puma, the engine in front ... modular booking!

      So this is the Polish trough LC-8 anders with a large-caliber gun! what for was sticking to an article about Kurganets?
    7. Civil
      Civil 21 November 2014 12: 37
      +7
      Quote: Civil


      With this tower.
    8. ultra
      ultra 21 November 2014 12: 41
      +1
      This is a Polish light tank LC-08. hi
    9. Ramzaj99
      Ramzaj99 21 November 2014 12: 44
      +1
      The picture is clearly not our car! And goose and coloring and optics, and the machine itself is clearly not our designers.
    10. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 21 November 2014 12: 46
      0
      Quote: Civil
      front engine ... modular booking!

      It is unclear where dviglo, here on the acacia is similar to self-propelled guns.
      1. Stalevar
        Stalevar 21 November 2014 13: 29
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        It’s not clear where dviglo, here

        Why is it incomprehensible? Dviglo front right. See the deflector of the engine cooling system. And next to the right is the driver’s mechanic’s compartment. Like the BMP-1.
    11. just exp
      just exp 21 November 2014 12: 49
      +1
      in the photo is not her, at the Kurgan "This vehicle will be equipped with a 30 mm 2A42 automatic cannon."
    12. Alexander
      Alexander 21 November 2014 13: 11
      0
      This is a self-propelled gun on the chassis of the Polish light tank LC-08 Anders. To Kurganets has no relation
    13. opus
      opus 21 November 2014 13: 22
      +4
      Quote: Civil
      FIRST PICTURE ??? !!

      and the gun is clearly NOT the author ->
      Quote: author
      equipped 30-mm 2A42 automatic gun.


      and body




      Better would be the Czech "Kurgan" vpendyuril
    14. tilovaykrisa
      tilovaykrisa 21 November 2014 14: 50
      +1
      Where does the old cornet have a range of 10000 km? What kind of nonsense ??? The modular is of course good, but the BMP has never had a problem with detonation of BC, it’s not T72, which reservation is not indicated and if it doesn’t keep an armor-piercing incendiary 7,62, then this product is designed to transport infantry and the rest is secondary
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 21 November 2014 17: 50
        0
        Quote: tilovaykrisa
        Where does the old cornet get a range of 10000 km

        Meters
    15. alone
      alone 21 November 2014 17: 31
      +1
      To be honest, in the picture I saw only the combat module
      1. 31rus
        31rus 22 November 2014 07: 31
        0
        I thought, but I didn’t consider, of course, this is a combat module, where did the forum users see the case? Bullshit is some kind of module and it’s not clear whose
  2. kit-kat
    kit-kat 21 November 2014 12: 19
    0
    Something I am confused by the strictly vertical sides.
    1. SAM 5
      SAM 5 21 November 2014 12: 23
      0
      Something confuses me strictly vertical sides

      I agree, streamlining would not hurt
      1. Mama_Cholli
        Mama_Cholli 21 November 2014 12: 26
        0
        Zakos under the ravings ... The maximum net volume is always good on the march, but not always in battle ...
    2. just exp
      just exp 21 November 2014 12: 50
      +2
      this is not our clunker.
    3. opus
      opus 21 November 2014 14: 14
      -1
      Quote: kit-kat
      Something I am confused by the strictly vertical sides.

      THAN?,
      so that more there (inside) LIKE?
      what will be easier and cheaper to produce?
      so that LESS will be a rental waste?

      Or do you seriously hope that for 10-15 mm PSEVDobron, at an angle of 45 / 60 gr. WILL GIVE RICOCHET?
      From what? From pneumatics, yes probably

      1. Mama_Cholli
        Mama_Cholli 21 November 2014 18: 03
        +1
        An inclination of armor plates of 45 degrees in any case increases the likelihood of a rebound from small arms (the same machine guns) + armor of 15 mm. set at an angle of 45 degrees already gives a thickness of 25 mm. Make sure of this yourself, on a sheet of paper in a cage, and this excuses 2/3 of the thickness adds.
  3. agronomist2
    agronomist2 21 November 2014 12: 21
    +8
    Et polish anders
    1. Michael_59
      Michael_59 21 November 2014 12: 37
      +6
      Quote: agronomist2
      Et polish anders


      You are absolutely right !


      1. Michael_59
        Michael_59 21 November 2014 12: 43
        +1
        Quote: Michael_59
        You are absolutely right !
        1. s1н7т
          s1н7т 21 November 2014 15: 52
          0
          It's funny that "they" have a landing hatch (since the time of the M-113) serves, like, a ladder during disembarkation, and in our country it serves as a type of fire protection during disembarkation. What's more relevant, interesting?
    2. Yuri Y.
      Yuri Y. 21 November 2014 12: 41
      +2
      Precisely, the multi-purpose branded Anders platform.
  4. Egorl
    Egorl 21 November 2014 12: 22
    +1
    Judging by the picture, the gun there is far from 30 mm ...
    1. RusDV
      RusDV 21 November 2014 12: 33
      +2
      Quote: EgorL
      Judging by the picture, the gun there is far from 30 mm ...

      not 30 mm in the picture .... In any case, not automatic 2A42 ..... The latter is a very good Soviet automatic gun designed by A. G. Shipunov and V. P. Gryazev, designed to destroy manpower, lightly armored equipment and airborne low-flying targets.
      When shooting the entire ammunition (500 rounds), the gun does not need intermediate cooling. Shooting is possible with single and automatic fire, large and small pace. Ammunition - selective of two rounds of ammunition, equipped with cartridges with armor-piercing and high-explosive shells.
      The gun is designed and manufactured at the Tula Machine-Building Plant (Tulamashzavod). In addition to the Russian Federation, the 2A42 cannon is manufactured in Bulgaria (Arsenal Co), in India for the Sarath BMP (BMP-2), and in Slovakia for the BMP-2 licensed here as well.
  5. starshina pv
    starshina pv 21 November 2014 12: 25
    +2
    Something is not clear what kind of drindulet? looks very western.
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  7. kelevra
    kelevra 21 November 2014 12: 26
    +1
    If this photo is true, although I don’t really believe it, since the trucks are of the NATO type, then it doesn’t look like an IFV! With such an instrument, it looks more like a light self-propelled gun. I saw a prototype of Kurgan, it looks like an IFV and looks like very powerful and modern!
    1. Drew
      Drew 21 November 2014 12: 33
      +2
      apparently no one knows what the Kurgan looks like
      1. s1н7т
        s1н7т 21 November 2014 16: 07
        0
        Quote: Drew
        apparently no one knows what the Kurgan looks like

        And I don’t even know for what tasks it will be done? If under the former - delivery of military personnel on the battlefield and support by fire, then there will be nothing fundamentally new: the engine will remain there, the landing force will also be the same, the dimensions will be about the same, otherwise there’s nothing to do on the battlefield, the weapons are the same (about which , in fact, they say). Weight will be added - well, will there be a reinforced bottom, suspension, armor? Well, the ATGMs will add. Is that all? Honestly, I’m not expecting anything particularly new.
  8. Grigorievich
    Grigorievich 21 November 2014 12: 26
    0
    The picture shows some sort of howitzer on an incomprehensible platform.
    1. vdtomsk
      vdtomsk 21 November 2014 12: 29
      -5
      125mm 2S25 self-propelled anti-tank gun based on Kurgan
    2. bistrov.
      bistrov. 21 November 2014 12: 38
      +3
      Quote: Grigorievich
      some howitzer

      I would call this gun a howitzer gun, since there are two signs here: a muzzle brake and a fairly long barrel, which means the initial velocity of the projectile is quite high — a sign of the gun; on the other hand, the elevation angle is also a big sign of howitzers. Apparently, there is a variation with charges: the charge-gun is more powerful, the charge-howitzer is less.
      1. bistrov.
        bistrov. 21 November 2014 13: 16
        0
        Mister promusuvshe me, do not want to explain what you did not like my reasoning?
  9. vdtomsk
    vdtomsk 21 November 2014 12: 27
    -11
    In the photo "Sprut-SD", "Kurganets-25" is a promising base for tracked infantry fighting vehicles
    1. frost1979
      frost1979 21 November 2014 12: 35
      +1
      Quote: vdtomsk
      In the photo "Sprut-SD", "Kurganets-25" is a promising base for tracked infantry fighting vehicles

      well you noob! What a companion sd, first look at the pictures! this is anders polish, "expert"!))
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 21 November 2014 12: 52
      +10
      Quote: vdtomsk
      In the photo "Sprut-SD",

      Octopus here
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  11. GOgaRu
    GOgaRu 21 November 2014 12: 30
    +5
    Not "Kurganets" in the photo: the description in the text does not match, and the camouflage is German.
    1. viktor_ui
      viktor_ui 21 November 2014 12: 35
      +3
      The stump is clear that it’s not Kurgan, but pure NATOVETS ... but the approvals are already on the lips ... on the pieces then at least open your eyes, well, and then on the topic the flag is in your hands wassat
  12. Cruorvult
    Cruorvult 21 November 2014 12: 34
    +1
    http://topwar.ru/15503-polskiy-legkiy-tank-lc-08-anders-poluchaet-bashennuyu-cha


    st-ct-cv-s-105-mm-orudiem.html

    right here this photo on topwar was in another article

    but here are other pictures

    http://vestnik-rm.ru/news-4-10427.htm
    1. Cruorvult
      Cruorvult 21 November 2014 12: 37
      +1
      here is one, the second old scheme
  13. STALGRAD76
    STALGRAD76 21 November 2014 12: 44
    +2
    Bayayaya angry This "Messenger of Mordovia" who is spinning it here ??? Photo left, useful information "0".
    "It may appear" ...., "It may be installed" ....
    Maybe we will discuss the facts and not vague phraseological units ......
    1. Cruorvult
      Cruorvult 21 November 2014 12: 47
      +2
      On the messenger of Mordovia, by the way, the pictures are correct, but here, alas ..
  14. ekebastus
    ekebastus 21 November 2014 12: 46
    +4
    About here ..
    1. tomket
      tomket 21 November 2014 12: 55
      +3
      Quote: ekebastus
      About here ..

      Caterpillars are not narrow ???
    2. Nickanor
      Nickanor 21 November 2014 13: 36
      +1
      Rear view mirrors???
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 21 November 2014 13: 51
        +2
        European standards. For example, the Germans have a full-fledged day / night rear-view camera. However, mirrors are required and are therefore installed.
      2. s1н7т
        s1н7т 21 November 2014 16: 16
        0
        Quote: Nickanor
        Rear view mirrors???

        To us in the school year, so in the 85th, 72 came with mirrors. They were needed, in fact, only when you drive a car into a box. laughing
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 21 November 2014 17: 58
          0
          There it was somehow possible to justify their presence. Although in the "boxing" version, they only interfere.

          I remember that in the second or third PCBs in the army I drove the Ural into boxing. The divisional zampotech stopped the process, hit the driver in the forehead, then took me aside and promised to hit me in the forehead next time if the driver not only looks at me, but also in the mirrors.
          1. s1н7т
            s1н7т 23 November 2014 19: 02
            +1
            When the cadets didn’t drive tanks into the pits, it was like that - his sergeant was convinced that there was nobody behind the tank, waved his hand - like, come on !, and he ran to the next. You look at the mirrors in order to drive more or less in the middle, and where to go - at a distance from the boxing gate. But on these 72s of fur-water there was prapora, usually they drove themselves. Also, by the way, with violations. And in the army, yes, they vomited. Somehow, I had to load 30 cars onto the platforms from the end of the ramp, I took the best ones, but I didn’t see my eyes before - they didn’t want to fall off the platform, they believed every gesture! drinks I remember only one case of violation of the power supply in the army - an officer stood between driven cars inside the box, one of the mechanics (BRM) pulled the helm, the car went at him, threatening to crush him on the second car. The officer turned out to be jumping - he jumped over the rear of the BRM! No longer breakinglaughing
  15. SAM 5
    SAM 5 21 November 2014 12: 46
    +2
    Cheto Bulletin of Mordovia drives a blizzard.
  16. rumata63
    rumata63 21 November 2014 13: 51
    0
    judging by the photo, the caliber is either 76 or 57mm. And more like a mini self-propelled guns.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 21 November 2014 17: 17
      0
      In the photo, the usual 30 mm gun 2A42.
  17. Messiah
    Messiah 21 November 2014 18: 15
    +1
    Where is the 40-45 mm gun for the Kurgan? Again -30 mm - ka? And her, given the increased security of the BMP \ BTR potential enemy, is no longer enough! And the ATGMs located on its tower - practically without armor protection? One line or a couple of small fragments and everything will fail! We are not in the desert, where the "adversary", see for 3,5-5 km! We have “gullies-rivers-crayfish”, “greenback!” So, to get in the silhouette of the BMP \ BTR tower with 100-300 a couple of sighting bursts 7,62 \ 5,6 \ 5,45mm is not a question! And if it “explodes?” What will happen to the “people” inside? And there "over your head" because under 20 kg on each side! And the roof is only 8-12, well, 25 mm! ..... What, is it difficult to make the tower module larger and the installation of ATGM / SAM, as in the Belarusian "2T Stalker"? Oh ...
  18. Gans1234
    Gans1234 21 November 2014 21: 41
    0
    In general, deliveries of Kurgan were disrupted - they don’t have time for the parade
  19. viruvalge412ee
    viruvalge412ee 22 November 2014 09: 38
    0
    A wonderful thing in all respects MTLBV was, is and I hope will be