Oil, Sechin, OPEC and November 27

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The next OPEC summit is near. Conspiracyologists again rushed to talk about the theories of the oil plot, the machinations of the White House against Putin and Sechin, the collusion of the Americans with the Saudis and the impending collapse of the world oil market almost to zero - let the black gold get to everyone for free, if only Russia collapsed. Meanwhile, Igor Sechin, as analysts suggest, is thinking about speaking at the OPEC summit.

Oil, Sechin, OPEC and November 27


Recall that blogs and the press are multiplying guesses of amateurs and analysts about some behind-the-scenes reasons for the fall in oil prices.

The two main points of view, which we have already written on the "VO", are as follows.

The Saudis decided to destroy the oil industry of non-fraternal America: Washington, with its oil shale revolution and the threat of flooding the world with oil, was pretty tired of Riyadh. And Riyadh decided to find opposition - to bring down the world price of oil to the bar below which the profitability of shale oil would be negative. The bar is approximately 80 dollars per barrel or lower. 70 dollars - guaranteed death for shale oil business. At these numbers converge American market analysts and experts in oil production. At a price of seventy dollars per barrel or a little higher production will be curtailed, companies in the mining states will throw people on the streets, and Obama's rating will be compared with the rating of his European counterpart Hollande.

This conspiracy hypothesis does not hold water.

Saudi Arabia has long been a regional American ally. Since the seventies of the last century, the United States undertook to ensure the safety of the Saudis. Riyadh, in turn, pledged to sell crude oil exclusively for US dollars. And this has been going on for over forty years. Undoubtedly, it will continue to go further, since the United States does not intend to abandon oil imports - however, the volumes will be smaller than the previous ones. Oil, after all, is a non-renewable resource, and Washington is thinking about national security.

In addition, Riyadh would not risk openly speaking out against the "world hegemon." In the sense of objections to the White House, the kingdom is capable only of small scandals (in the spirit of the dismissed just because of the scandal with the rejection of American politics by Prince Bandar bin Sultan).

The second hypothesis is based on a fantastic statement about the Saudis collusion with the Americans. The reason for the collusion is to bring down the price of oil to loosen the Russian economy. Russian sanctions turned out to be little, the Crimea will not be returned to Ukraine, which means that it is necessary to kill Russians with something. Now Russia lives mainly on the export of energy, therefore, the oil pipeline will be correct.

But this version does not hold water.

"Speaking" in a similar way with the Americans, the Saudis, together with those Americans, will not only harm their budgets, but also destroy the american oil industry. Yes, Sechin will have a hard time in Russia, but Obama’s Republicans, who are now fully in charge of Congress, will raise their stake.

The price of seventy dollars per barrel, by the way, is taken by conspiracy therapists not from scratch. She was voiced this month by OPEC representatives.

In early November, some of the officials representing members of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries met informally in Vienna on the eve of the OPEC meeting scheduled for November 27. They discussed the price of oil, which reached the lowest level, at least in the last four years. At the meeting, it was openly stated that the cartel was unlikely to act now, when the prices for Brent oil were established in the 80 area of ​​dollars per barrel. However, lowering the price to $ 70 per barrel will serve as a signal for action.

Already from this it is clear that the Saudis were not going to play against the USA. And in general, the Gulf monarchies are accustomed to living at oil prices of a hundred dollars a barrel, and when the market deprives the rich of a fifth of their income, their left heels start to twitch nervously.

Hence, the scheduled meeting of representatives of OPEC countries. By the way, in the coming days, not only it will pass.

In the twentieth of November, two meetings are scheduled: the International Conference on the Development of the World Oil Market (November 25) and the OPEC Summit (November 27). The first event was supposed to take place on November 21 in Caracas, but was moved on the initiative of Venezuela to Vienna on November 25. In the same place, in Vienna, the summit of OPEC will take place two days later. The connection of the transfer of the place and date of the first conference with this summit is quite obvious.

As the RBC With reference to Reuters, 25 November, Rosneft President Igor Sechin will take part in the International Conference on the Development of the World Oil Market. The conference was moved from Caracas to Vienna on the initiative of Venezuela.

The conference was postponed by the Rosneft press service: “At the initiative of the Venezuelan side, the International Conference on the development of the global oil market is being transferred from 21 to November 25 2014, and is expected to take place in Vienna on the eve of the OPEC summit in the capital Austria 27 November 2014 of the Year. "

In addition, Reuters reported that information about Sechin’s visit to Vienna gave rise to rumors about a planned meeting of the president of the energy state corporation with OPEC representatives.

It clarifies RIA News", Igor Sechin and Rafael Ramirez, head of the Venezuelan foreign affairs agency, at a meeting in Moscow discussed the prospects for the development of new projects. This was informed by the press service of "Rosneft".

"The meeting discussed a wide range of issues of current cooperation and the work of Rosneft in Venezuela, as well as prospects for the development of new projects," the report says.

Mr. Sechin congratulated Ramirez on his appointment as Vice-President and Minister of Foreign Affairs, and also expressed the hope that this would "give a new impetus to the relations between Russia and Venezuela in the energy sector, and would contribute to the effective development of joint projects."

RIA "News"Indicates that in July Venezuela signed a number of documents with Rosneft with the goal of creating a joint venture Petroviktoria and starting the implementation of the Carabobo-2 project, as well as creating a joint venture for drilling and services, a joint venture for the construction and engineering projects.

Recall that Venezuela is one of the OPEC countries. In addition to Venezuela, the cartel includes more 11 states: Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Libya, the United Arab Emirates, Algeria, Nigeria, Ecuador, Angola.

Russia has an observer status in OPEC (since 1998).

With regard to the fall in oil prices on the world market, which are very concerned about both conspiracy therapists and oil traders - from Saudis to Russians - there are a number of objective reasons for this.

In addition to psychological expectations, often unnerving the oil market, speculators on the stock exchanges, forecasts of China's economic growth and energy appetites, predictions of European analysts about the impending decline in oil purchases by Germany, and finally shale oil production in the United States influence the price of a barrel. The increased sales of oil by Iraq, Iran and a little Libya also have an impact on the market. Ignoring these factors, trying to find a “conspiracy” track everywhere, is simply ridiculous.

Oleg Obukhov (RIA News") notes that one of the determining factors today is the very "incomprehensible" behavior of OPEC. The organization "can not decide in any way whether or not to reduce the volume of black gold mining." Therefore, the global market is nervous, and traders are playing short.

The analyst believes that the Vienna summit may be the starting point from which the rise in oil prices will begin. If the alliance announces 27 on November of a reduction in oil production, quotes may go up. At least that's what market experts say.

Vladimir Feigin, President of the Institute of Energy and Finance, told a journalist about the scenario in the market:

“China is normally increasing its consumption, the world economy is not going to stop next year. It is planned to increase production in the USA for the time being, but it very much depends on prices. That is, it turns out that the market does not notice some factors and reacts very strongly to others, mainly to expectations. Fundamental factors all say that the price should be above 90 dollars. Because there is a zone in which there is some balance of interests. And most producing countries understand how to work in it. This is not dangerous for consumer countries - it does not slow down the development of the world economy. This is a zone where sustainable development is possible, projects can be implemented. ”


The key factor of the “price peak” can be considered the weak macroeconomic dynamics in the world. China’s economy alone will not pull out global demand for hydrocarbons. Oil analyst Sergei Agibalov told RIA Novosti:

“Against the background of not very active global consumption growth, the supply grew quite actively. As due to an increase in oil production in the United States - a consequence of the ongoing shale revolution, and an increase in production in some OPEC countries. And the intersection of these factors against the background of general instability in the financial markets has led to the current situation. ”


As a result, analysts and market players are waiting for action from OPEC to stabilize the market.

But, let's add to this, representatives of the cartel, as already seen from the preliminary meeting in Vienna, are not going to do anything until the price drops to the mark of 70 dollars per barrel. To some extent, a cartel of unusual behavior itself provokes panic in the market, forcing traders to play short, and conspiracy theologians to invent absurd theories about geopolitical collusion.

From the summit of November 27, however, we should expect a certain decision. It will appear, despite the known differences within the countries of the cartel. Otherwise (and OPEC representatives understand this perfectly), the oil market will start to be in a fever - only because the organization did not come to an agreement and did not limit the fall in prices through the usual reduction in production volumes.

It would be interesting to listen and what will say at the summit of Sechin. If he, of course, appears there and if his words fall into the ears of journalists.

Observed and commented on Oleg Chuvakin
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  1. +1
    21 November 2014 08: 29
    Everyone is waiting for the OPEC meeting! Medvedev probably doesn’t even sleep at night because of this, tossing or turning to play Yangri birds on an iPhone in the kitchen! The budget is then tailored with white thread! In the US, do not sleep shale magnates! Only Saudis sleep well - it all depends on them!
    1. Bombardier
      +2
      21 November 2014 08: 34
      The Saudis are dolls, though they are rich dolls, and the strings for which they are pulled go overseas. There is a lot of money on the map and if you take a chance and play for a fall, it may happen that a lot of money will become very big and at the same time, the whole world is at the feet of the puppeteers.
      1. 0
        21 November 2014 09: 05
        Quote: Bombardier
        Saudis are dolls,

        If you had the dough wagons and the strongest army in the region, would you allow yourself to be pushed around ?, the Americans have nothing Saudi Arabians can do without, after the US failure in Syria, I think the Saudis relied on Russia, and decided with agree on it. But I repeat this is only a version. There is another version, ISIS captures all of Syria and allows itself to build this gas pipeline, but there is one thing, but BUT, ISIS will never receive world recognition, and therefore the gas pipeline will be in constant danger.
        1. Bombardier
          +4
          21 November 2014 10: 11
          Your thoughts are interesting, perhaps even correct.
          But it seems to me that the Saudis, having money wagons and a well-armed army, do not have the main thing - the industrial potential for the production of weapons, i.e. they have what they are allowed to. And the numerous American bases in Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia were not set up to improve the tan of the soldiers - the Americans (and the British) staked out the place and so far no one, including the Saudis themselves, dare even think of shoving them from there. I was based on this when I wrote the comment above. The Americans control the strategic raw material - the blood of the economy (at this stage of development, there used to be spices), and another hundred wagons can print green paper and sell their weapons for them. Yes and power is not so strong in the hands of the rulers of the Saudis, just a little help and its own crowds will not sweep it away, not satisfied with the distribution of income, but there is the US army (its base) for this. In a word, the Saudis are just watching, but there is an uncle from across the ocean and from foggy albions ....
          1. 0
            22 November 2014 01: 57
            Good reasoned comment. I agree with you Bombardier!
        2. 0
          21 November 2014 19: 09
          Quote: Canep
          , Americans have nothing Saudi Arabians can do without, after the failure of the United States in Syria, I think the Saudis have relied on Russia

          Why? What can Russia give to Saudi Arabia?
          In general, the Saudis can very well rely on themselves, without thinking except themselves


          Quote: Canep
          There is another version, ISIS captures all of Syria and allows itself to build this gas pipeline

          Well, it won’t even pull on the version
    2. +8
      21 November 2014 08: 44
      Quote: Finches
      Only Saudis sleep well - it all depends on them!

      There is another opinion this is a collusion between the Saudis and Russia, the Saudis remove competitors in the face of shale companies, and then raise the price to heaven $ 150-200, and Russia allows you to build a gas pipeline through Syria, I think, with specifically agreed volumes of supply, At high prices for oil, the gas price will automatically skyrocket, Russia will lose on supply volumes but gain in price. At the same time, the United States remains not a lot, after such a price maneuver and bankruptcy of the shale companies, few decide to invest in shale gas, the maneuver can be repeated.
      1. +3
        21 November 2014 08: 53
        The version has a right to exist. That's just the gas pipeline through Syria ... Doesn’t it seem to you that ISIS has already gone out of control and the Saudis too? In the meantime, they will not be knocked out - you can forget about any construction.
        1. +1
          21 November 2014 09: 01
          Quote: Flinky
          In the meantime, they will not be knocked out - you can forget about any construction.

          The Saudis can knock them out, they won’t even have to do anything for this, that is, they stop financing ISIS and it will run away by itself. And the gas pipeline, in theory, should go through the territories controlled by Assad at the moment. This is through Jordan, south of Syria to the Mediterranean Sea.
          1. -1
            21 November 2014 19: 19
            Quote: Canep
            Saudis can knock them out

            Can not
            Quote: Canep
            they don’t even have to do anything for this, that is, they stop financing ISIS and he will run away by himself

            ISIS has only 30t fighters.
            The fact that the not victorious Syrian and Iraqi armies cannot deal with them, speaks only about the weakness of the latter.
            ISIS seized a bank in Iraq with nearly 3 billion dollars and counter-gang drove oil to 1 million. per day - they do not need Saudis. Yes, their Saudis never funded - Qatar is another matter
            Quote: Canep
            And the gas pipeline, in theory, should go through the territories controlled by Assad at the moment. This is through Jordan, south of Syria to the Mediterranean Sea.

            In general, the gas pipeline was supposed to pass from Iran through Iraq and Syria to Europe.
            The agreement has already been signed and has begun to be built by Iran.
            So . why don’t you look for conspiracy, if there weren’t a war, the gas pipeline from Iran would have come to Europe long ago.
            The truth is, the question arises: what is better for Russia — a gas pipeline from Qatar — if Assad is dropped, or from Iran — if Assad survives. laughing
      2. 0
        21 November 2014 08: 56
        Quote: Canep
        Saudis remove competitors in the face of shale companies

        Perhaps not only the shale competitors are being cleaned, and not only the Saudis:
        The explosion on the Echo oil and gas platform in the Gulf of Mexico last Thursday, November 20 ...
        The platform is owned by Fieldwood Energy and is located 19 km from the coastline of Louisiana.
      3. +3
        21 November 2014 15: 06
        Quote: Canep
        Saudis remove competitors in the face of shale companies, and then raise the price to heaven $ 150-200

        Do not you think that your version does not stand up to criticism? Well, let's say the price of oil fell to $ 60 per barrel and stays at this level for a year. Shale oil production ceases, development is frozen, companies are phasing out activities. Well, the Saudis are satisfied, Russia is eating up the last shortbread in a bit ... Oil prices are starting to rise, reaching a steady $ 100 per barrel ... American companies are starting to develop shale oil again ... the circle has closed ... Why does everyone think that the price is low for oil guarantees the impossibility of developing shale oil while raising its price to the level of profitability? Everything is simple, cost-effective, mined, not cost-effective, curtail production, again cost-effective, start again ...
      4. +1
        21 November 2014 19: 14
        Quote: Canep
        There is another opinion is the collusion of the Saudis and Russia

        Russia? belay
        Quote: Canep
        Saudis remove competitors in the face of shale companies, and then raise the price to heaven $ 150-200,

        Or maybe easier? The Saudis (at the request of America) drop the price of oil in the world, and the Americans, date the production of shale oil (that would not have died, still it is not produced so much).
        Quote: Canep
        and then raise the price to heaven $ 150-200,

        How ? For this, demand should increase by a factor of 2-3.
        Quote: Canep
        At the same time, the United States remains not a lot, after such a price maneuver

        Why
        The states provide themselves with gas, and soon give the same oil.
        Quote: Canep
        After such a price maneuver and bankruptcy of the shale companies, few decide to invest in shale gas, the maneuver can be repeated.

        If the states do not date this production (that’s about a year or two), and then prices soar (as you say) - and shale oil in full chocolate.
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    4. 0
      21 November 2014 10: 37
      Dear Oleg, thank you for your review, but still, one should not write off the possible decline in oil prices in order to stifle the shale revolution in the states. This is not a conspiracy, but the vital interests of oil producers. Let me explain that even today, oil production exceeds consumption by 1 million barrels per day, and with an increase in shale oil production, overproduction will only grow. And this could bring down the entire oil market. Therefore, the friendship of Arabs with the states is friendship, but economic stability is more expensive. Having strangled the "shale", traditional exporters will return oil prices above $ 100 and without reducing production. Business and nothing personal ...
      1. 0
        21 November 2014 19: 22
        Quote: maxcor1974
        Having strangled the "shale", traditional exporters will return oil prices above $ 100 and without reducing production. Business and nothing personal ...

        They are tired of strangling, drinking Borjomi late.
        The cost of shale oil production reached 36 bucks per barrel.
        Yes, at 60 bucks - a profit of 70%.
        Who will refuse.
    5. 0
      22 November 2014 20: 15
      Until created safe an internal combustion engine powered by hydrogen or another source of energy, hydrocarbons will always be strategic raw materials and the price will steadily rise. Whether Macaques in Faitington want this and the Saudis or not.
  2. +1
    21 November 2014 08: 40
    You can guess for a long time and a lot of BUT ... when prices are regulated by politics ... the opinion of financial analysts does not mean anything ...
    But it’s worth looking at the decisions ... shale oil is already being extracted at the margin of profitability ... Canada’s oil sands too ... And how long can the West afford to keep this sector of the economy on the brink ???
  3. +4
    21 November 2014 08: 43
    "Winter will come - bring order!" It is unlikely that in cold weather the oil price will fall ...
    1. 0
      21 November 2014 09: 39
      Quote: Dragon-y
      It is unlikely that in the cold, the price of oil will fall.

      Why not, they mostly heat gas and coal
  4. +3
    21 November 2014 09: 04
    The price of oil is pegged to the dollar, thereby turning into a predominantly financial variable, the same as the exchange rate, gold prices and stock quotes. Oil production, demand and reserves, political shocks, OPEC actions are becoming second order factors. Oil prices are formed on derivatives exchanges in close connection with the US dollar as the world reserve currency, which accounts for more than 30% of the world's financial assets. With the weakening dollar, the price of oil rises, compensating for the losses from its "devaluation". Conversely, with the strengthening of the dollar decreases.
    If the price of oil, on which the Russian economy functionally depends, is a financial variable, then its dynamics are largely based on change in the US dollar. The multipolar monetary system of the world is still far away. Russia feels good with a weak dollar (commodity asset prices tend to rise, as was the case in 2001-2008). Conversely, with a strong dollar, we can expect low world prices for raw materials. What we are observing now.
    1. +1
      21 November 2014 14: 55
      I am inclined to believe that the fall in oil prices was associated with the influence on GDP policy through the economy: the expected fall of the ruble with the subsequent destabilization of the foreign exchange market and the burning of the reserves of the Bank of Russia. However, due to competent and timely actions, it was possible to stabilize the situation, the policy did not have to be changed. The fall in prices was due to two reasons: a decrease in purchases by China and the expectation of lifting sanctions from Iran. The sanctions were not lifted (Obama did not want suicide), and China launched a fleet of tankers for new oil. Prices have stabilized. As a result of the stress test, our managers have gained valuable experience. Next time they will act more quickly and decisively. The ruble will smoothly strengthen to 40 per dollar at current oil prices. If the barrel price rises to 100 again, then the ruble will rise to 37.
  5. +2
    21 November 2014 09: 49
    You can guess about mutually opposite tendencies even to blue in the face. Only all this does not make sense, since the pseudo-state "USA" is not an independent player, but only a shell / skin / screen. And Saudi Arabia is under the protectorate of this very screen, not even the state. Prikup will never know, games against a gang of thimblers.
  6. 0
    21 November 2014 10: 45
    There are a lot of articles on the topic of oil, dollar, gold prices and all of them are multidirectional, that is, there is no consolidated opinion. So I consider all articles of this kind fortune telling on coffee grounds. Some of the players in the oil market are trying to minimize their losses through gold and the devaluation of the national currency, someone is increasing production to cover the budget deficit, etc., etc. I think that these games will end the OPEC summit and the cold winter.
  7. 0
    21 November 2014 11: 01
    Now the price wins back the consequences of the events of six months ago.
    Another ISIS problem was not so acute, the withdrawal of troops from Iraq, stabilization around Syria, the restoration of Libyan oil infrastructure, positive trends in Iran, the exit of shale projects, incorrect assessments of the economic growth of major economies, expectations of a major military conflict between Russia and NATO, and a number of others not such noticeable reasons laid the downward trend in prices, which shot after the successes of ISIS and their sale of oil at meager prices.
    Now there will be a reaction to the fight against ISIS and its dumping trade, the destruction of the Syrian oil industry, the transfer of American production from Asia to the USA, the creation of a transatlantic FTA, and of course the increased demand for still cheap oil and other recent events.
    Those. the market spring is compressed and any event can lead to the same quick acting out of prices to the previous level.
  8. 0
    21 November 2014 11: 03
    What do mattresses do when their interests are affected? That's right, they begin to spoil the country from which the threat emanates. If the Saudis pose a threat to Russia and most OPEC countries, measures must be taken in full.
  9. 0
    21 November 2014 13: 33
    An interesting situation. The only one who is probably happy is the Chinese. Maybe look for a "Peking hand" somewhere on the stock exchanges. Although with their expectation of a passing enemy .., in principle, they can still push somewhere.
    1. 0
      21 November 2014 19: 28
      Quote: Yuri Ya.
      interesting situation. The only one who is probably glad is the Chinese.

      Of course.
      Here everyone thinks. that China will now unite abruptly with Russia and on a dashing horse will abruptly ravage America
      Naive people.
      China signed an agreement on gas and so on the verge of loss for Russia, while oil prices at that time were somehow higher
      In general, for reference - gas prices are tied to the price of oil, so. that lifting up oil prices for China is to shoot yourself in the foot.
      WELL AND THE MOST IMPORTANT
      Today, China lowered the discount rate !!!!!!!!!
      This suggests one thing - a slowdown in development and the beginning of overheating of the Chinese market.
      Now China will definitely not wave a saber, and against the background of a slowdown in China's development rates, oil prices will fall even more
      See tomorrow or Monday.
  10. +1
    21 November 2014 13: 34
    Oil and other "chests of drawers" are a non-renewable resource. And the FRS prints dollars with enviable persistence in huge quantities. As practice shows, prices for oil and metals always return sooner or later. High oil prices are inevitable as winter arrives. Only a technological revolution can bring down the demand for oil, which will switch cars to some other fuel not related to oil.
  11. -1
    21 November 2014 19: 14
    Only a COMPLETE idiot can think that oil prices are regulated by MARKET mechanisms. Oil has ALWAYS been and will remain an instrument of WAR, and therefore the price of this instrument is determined according to the current tactics and strategy of the war. It is no secret that the Western elite ALWAYS tried to physically destroy Russia (this is the Russian Empire, the Soviet Union, and now the Russian Federation), and recently a new generation of this "elite" HAS DECIDED to try to physically destroy Russia again. Why did they tackle Russia AGAIN? The answer is simple - today's Russia is NEVER BEFORE WEAK! And weakness is determined by the following factors:
    1. The extreme weakness and incompetence of the current leadership of the country.
    2. Loss of IDEOLOGICAL guidelines by the population and its depopulation.
    3. The destruction of the economy and cooperative ties.
    4. Practical destruction of the army. (Transfer to "professional" rails, destruction of educational institutions, backlog in equipping with weapons, etc.).
    5. The presence of the fifth column is PRACTICAL IN ALL structures of the state.

    After deciding on the BEGINNING of a real war, the West adopted the following concept of its conduct:
    1. Since the West is not yet ready for a full-fledged war (not ready for missile defense), he decided to take the time to prepare (2-3 years), and during this time try to destroy Russia through an economic blockade.
    2. The easiest way is to lower the price of oil to 40-60 bucks per barrel, which is now happening. Most likely the price of 40-60 will be reached in the summer of 2015 and will last either until the color revolution in Russia or just 2-3 years.
    3. Next, attempts will be made to a MILITARY solution to the issue with Russia (if the US missile defense system is sufficiently deployed). Of course, the United States will not go to war on its own, as they will NORMALLY set EUROPE or only its eastern part on Russia, in an attempt to avoid retaliation. Here the option with the WEAPONS of Ukraine NUCLEAR WEAPONS REALLY looks here. Given the state of stupor from washing the brains of the population of Ukraine, this is a very and very promising direction.
    4. Practically EVERYTHING (USA, China, the Middle East) is interested in a nuclear conflict between Europe and / only Ukraine and Russia.

    Here is "such an oil painting". Based on the above, it is necessary to analyze the current jumps in oil prices. Open your eyes and see, turn on your brain and understand ...
    1. 0
      22 November 2014 00: 45
      And from the outside I see the development of Russia in the economy, industry, science, defense, and most importantly in children! Especially in comparison with the dead nineties. And yet, to measure everything with the measure of liberals and the enemy (which, by the way, is the same thing) is at least stupid.
    2. 0
      22 November 2014 00: 45
      And from the outside I see the development of Russia in the economy, industry, science, defense, and most importantly in children! Especially in comparison with the dead nineties. And yet, to measure everything with the measure of liberals and the enemy (which, by the way, is the same thing) is at least stupid.