Can the Russian army once again intervene in politics?

Can the Russian army once again intervene in politics?Our army in big politics was noted twice. In 1991, she turned away from the Emergency Committee and supported the White House. Not all, of course, but that part of the officers who took the side of the leadership of the then RSFSR was more resolute. As a result, Yeltsin won. In 1993, the army ignored calls for it from the rebellious White House and again sided with Yeltsin. He won again.

After that, the authorities resorted to the services of the army three more times, but no longer from the standpoint of the confrontation of internal political forces - in two Chechen campaigns and during the military conflict with Georgia in 2008. She rescued them again, although the Chechen campaigns were very difficult for her morally.

Now, in the days of the 20 anniversary of the so-called. “Putsch”, there was a reason to think about the possible role of the army in the future. Will she ever be able to influence policy? The question is not at all idle, if we recall the role of the army in the spring "color revolutions" in the Middle East. Should the army factor be taken into account by the current Russian authorities in their actions, or can it be ignored? Pavel Baev, a professor at the International Peace Research Institute in Oslo, tried to answer this question in an interview with

According to the political scientist, the Russian army is no longer the same as in 1991 and even in 1993. Infinite cuts and confusion, scant funding, the authorities' dismissive attitude towards the officer corps and more than two years of military reform (after 2008), along with the actions of defense minister Serdyukov that caused general criticism and dissatisfaction. Among the officers, there is apathy and unwillingness to take responsibility for the fate of the country, which was not 20 years ago. Perhaps it was this state of the army that was the main task that was set before the professional furniture maker, appointing him to command the defense. But the soldiers are not furniture. It was only in the fairy tale about Urfin Dzyus that they were made of wood, sprinkled with magical powder, they drew a uniform on the body - and that was done, go ahead.

“In the USSR, the army had a completely different profile, it felt completely different, especially the officer corps,” recalls the expert. - There was more confidence that military force is the main thing. The USSR was primarily a military superpower, this idea was the basis of all state power and was transferred to the officer corps, which had a very developed sense of responsibility for the fate of the state. ”

But even then, in the last years of Soviet power, the collective psyche was “invincible and legendary,” as it was called in the songs, received the first significant injuries. “The Soviet army, especially the ground forces, was seriously injured, firstly, by the experience of the war in Afghanistan. Secondly, at the time of the State Emergency Committee, the collapse of the Warsaw Pact, the need for the withdrawal of troops, the surrender of the advanced line of defense, as it seemed then, became apparent, ”said Bayev.

The officers had a feeling that the country was losing and a catastrophe was happening. It seemed to them that there was no one else to act, there was complete confusion in politics, the leadership had lost its idea of ​​how to control the situation. “The readiness of the army to take responsibility for itself was very high,” the expert notes.

But from this readiness is now no trace. What has changed? “A lot has changed fundamentally,” says Baev, “especially the feeling of the army itself. In August, 1991 for the army was not about reacting to something, but about acting in the most active way. Now the army is not able to take any responsibility for the political development of the country. I do not think that there are sentiments in the officer corps, that the army has something to say or offer.

The army is extremely demoralized by reforms that have lasted since the fall of 2008. Officers are exhausted by all sorts of cleaning and shuffling. All sorts of promises in terms of armaments do not change this climate. ”

In addition, intentionally or not, but not enough troops were left near Moscow so that the army could once again play the role assigned to it in 1991. There are no previous divisions, not hundreds tankswho then moved to the capital. The population of Moscow increased by an order of magnitude, while the number of combat-ready units decreased by an order of magnitude.

But, perhaps, has increased the loyalty of the army to power? After all, the officers who remained in the service significantly increased their salaries, give them apartments, announced new plans for rearmament, quite impressive sums were announced that they are going to spend on it. “Not in the least,” replies Baev. - Loyalty in the sense of trust in leadership and a willingness to defend it, perhaps, at a record low. There were periods, especially after the defeat in the first Chechen war, when the feeling that the army was betrayed was very strong. The same thing is happening now. The reforms are carried out with such disregard for the opinion of the military, all manifestations of discontent in the officer corps are so uprooted, the entire professional leadership of the officer corps is so swept out with a hot broom that it is impossible to expect any kind of loyalty from the army. ”

Will Serdyukov remain Secretary of Defense after the election of the 2012 of the year, or can he be considered to have fulfilled his task by bringing the army to the state in which it is now?

“It's hard to say,” replies Baev. - Reforms were initiated and promoted in one setting, planned completely in another. They were planned in the 2007 year, when it seemed that we had a calm voyage ahead. The reforms started not only after the war with Georgia, but also with the beginning of a very deep crisis. From the point of view of normal human logic, a worse moment was hard to pick up. According to my ideas, the situation has matured in order to declare him a scapegoat, and even before these elections, it’s likely to be removed somewhere out of sight in order to beat off a wave of discontent. ” Only in this way can the loyalty of the army be restored. This is especially necessary at the moment with an eye on Egypt and Syria. There may be a situation where the army will be the last support of the regime.

And from this perspective, it is useful to look at how the modern army treats President Medvedev and Prime Minister Putin. The expert believes that Putin, becoming the chairman of the government, prudently distanced himself from the problems of the army, focusing only on the issues of armaments. For this reason, it is not directed at the special dissatisfaction of the military environment. And the fact that it was he who appointed Minister Serdyukov is no longer remembered by everyone.

Medvedev, as Supreme Commander, did not succeed, although he tried first to highlight Serdyukov to the fore. But then he had to interfere himself. It bears the burden of responsibility for making final decisions. At one time he liked to appear in front of the lenses in the jacket with the badge of the commander-in-chief, but this did not bring him any special political dividends, but made him only one of the tricks of dissatisfaction of the military, whose votes he now can hardly count on.

But even with the support of the army, the expert believes, if it were, the president would not have decided on a real political confrontation with the prime minister. “Dmitry Anatolyevich is weak to go for a serious confrontation,” says Bayev. - He is trying to position himself as an exciting alternative. Here we need political will, determination, character, and behind him I don’t notice anything like that. ”

If a political analyst is right in his conclusions, then none of the members of the tandem also has to rely on active personal support from the army if such a need suddenly arises. Although the overall situation seems to be far from that.
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  1. Siberian
    Siberian 19 August 2011 12: 06 New
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    In one of his songs, Vysotsky sang: "... there are few real violent people, here there are no leaders ..." In our army this is exactly the situation. There are no leaders who can lead and lead the officer corps, the main driving force of the Armed Forces. Respected in troops with invaluable combat experience in command and control and planning and conducting sufficiently large military operations of generals, the current government has either removed or suspended. These are Troshev, Bulgakov, Baranov, Pulikovsky, Rokhlin and others. Shamnov received the Airborne Forces and was pressed by an unpleasant story with his son. The current leadership of the Armed Forces is toothless, blindly walking in the wake of the disastrous reforms carried out by Serdyukov with the tacit consent (or by direct instruction) of the country's leadership. The level of colonels and major generals (brigade) cannot do anything - we are not a banana republic, the scale of the country is not the same. The level of lieutenant generals (army, corps) does not have the strength and means for serious actions. In combined arms armies and army corps, there are only 2-3 brigades each.
    According to this, at present, the Armed Forces will not be able to act at least as well as in 1991-1993.
    1. Owl
      Owl 19 August 2011 13: 07 New
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      Possible leaders either shoot (Budanov) or "close" (Kvachkov).
      1. Eric
        Eric 19 August 2011 14: 16 New
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        Budanov must be avenged one way or another.
  2. zczczc
    zczczc 19 August 2011 12: 51 New
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    Ooooh, what article on the eve of the election campaign ...
    No, she’s not capable - this is what the authorities have been doing for 20 years.

    The bitter truth of cheating:
    - "that it was he who appointed the Minister Serdyukov, not everyone remembers";
    - Our population believes that Kudrin took the money to the West. Probably myself :)
    - Our population believes that Fursenko is a complete bastard. Probably, he acts completely himself and no one sets the direction for him :)
    - our population believes that Chubais crushed RAO UES itself, and Putin fought with it, fought ..., all the years just been in antagonism, remaining a patriot and not wanting to allow the collapse of the unified energy of the USSR :))
    - etc. etc. about any minister ...

    And I want to say - in the morning you need to brush your teeth and do exercises, so that the Lokhovskaya raid is thrown off ...
    1. svvaulsh
      svvaulsh 19 August 2011 15: 22 New
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      Somewhere I already heard - "the king is good, the gentlemen are bad!" Where can I get such a brush to clean this plaque? And, most importantly, so as not to hurt the gums!
  3. dmb
    dmb 19 August 2011 13: 11 New
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    I still can’t understand why tanks were brought into Moscow. Two or three groups subordinate to the same Kryuchkov were enough to isolate Yeltsin and a couple of dozen of his lackeys. And all of them were for what to judge, as ordinary criminals. Believe me, there was plenty of information from the same Chekists about their unpretentious criminal past.
    1. zczczc
      zczczc 19 August 2011 13: 25 New
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      In such a situation, it is difficult to really assess the scale; they act on the principle of "better more."

      What was then in Moscow among the population, how the people defended Yeltsin, is, of course, the clearest evidence of the validity of Stalinism and the repressive approach. It turns out that our people are ready to destroy on their own what their fathers and grandfathers built with blood and sweat. And now they sit and whine - again badly.

      Conclusion - at the helm there must be a patriot who does not go on about the crowd.
    2. svvaulsh
      svvaulsh 19 August 2011 15: 29 New
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      Yes, then they were all inadequate, they did not know how to act. It turned out like an elephant in a china shop. Although the operation itself (not taking into account the consequences) is similar to the displacement of Khrushchev. It started in the same scenario. But it didn’t work out, because none of the members of the State Emergency Committee took full responsibility. By the way, in those days I was against these kids. But if I knew then how it would all end, I would change my mind.
    3. Mi
      Mi 19 August 2011 20: 52 New
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      I think that this is no secret now. In 1991, at least 4 Guards Tank Kantemirovskaya Division, when brought to the highest levels of combat readiness, had a combat mission - to secure important state facilities in Moscow (government facilities, bridges, thermal power plants, etc.). Therefore, no one determined how many tanks to enter Moscow. Received a signal "combat alert", opened the packets and go! The same is the Taman division, and the brigade in the Teply Stan.
  4. 916-th
    916-th 19 August 2011 19: 25 New
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    This whole clown GKChP is nothing more than an episode in a multi-way combination, which continues to this day.
  5. figwam 19 August 2011 20: 53 New
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    There is a version that the humpback was controlled by the GKChP, so that they would not let Yeltsin break through to power, but the stupid people put boris on the tank, thereby signing a sentence, and fighting him skillfully executed.
  6. mitrich
    mitrich 19 August 2011 21: 21 New
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    It’s good that the winners didn’t shoot the losers. Perhaps for the first time in Russian history ... I am writing about the GKChP, and not about the troubles that occurred for us in the "dashing" 1990s ... Someday we will still understand the significance of this. And not us, so our children or grandchildren ...
  7. mar.tira
    mar.tira 20 August 2011 05: 55 New
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    After 1937, to this day, our army is not capable of independent activity. They killed and burned it with a hot iron. Have you served, remember what kind of policy was pursued in the troops? I’m the commander, you are a fool, stupidly carry out what they say. Officers honor only drunk in the company at the table. In combat units, yes, there were still gaps, patriotism and mutual assistance. But there’s no getting anywhere, you won’t survive the jackal. Fear for your well-being, and career, and just cowardice will not let you in. And still tired. That's why the GKChP lost. By definition, we cannot have a conspiracy of black colonels
  8. Mclout 007
    Mclout 007 21 August 2011 20: 31 New
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    The Russian army was not capable of independent activity long before the revolution. Because with the advent of the liberal king, just such a negative selection went. The revolution and the civilian completely deprived Russia of the officer corps. Although in Latin America, Russian officers proved to be magnificent Warriors. Those normal units that were already left could not take any decisive action. In the year 37, nominees from the civil war were destroyed. But even if they stayed. There would be no use in the domestic war. The war was completely different. You can’t help with class instincts. What the war showed. In the early years, all these nominees died and were captured. In principle, the victory came when the surviving officers entered the topic and senior draft ages went into battle. That is, in the year 43. Forty-year-olds won the war. If it were not for Zhukov, who knew how to win only with tenfold superiority, filling the enemy with bodies. There would be much less loss !! What can I say. !!! In the post-war USSR, the officers who fought were able to create a reserve for real officers. But first, khrushch, then Brezhnev, and finally hunchback, destroyed this whole backlog. So today's army is a bunch of marketers in uniform with big stars. Constructors !!! What tries conspiracies !!)))