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Domestic howitzer "Coalition-SV" will be more mobile than the best self-propelled guns of the world

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Mobility is one of the most important characteristics of modern military equipment, so it is not surprising that the Russian designers took care of the compactness and, accordingly, the mobility of the new 2СXNNXX Coalition-SV self-propelled gun. According to these parameters, the domestic howitzer will be more advanced than the best NATO self-propelled gun PzH 35. About this agency writes Messenger of Mordovia.

Domestic howitzer "Coalition-SV" will be more mobile than the best self-propelled guns of the world
2C35 is sent to the test.

According to some reports, the weight of the Russian car will be about 48 t, while the German self-propelled gun pulls on all 55. “In addition, the Coalition, thanks to its innovative layout, is a relatively compact product compared to the German monster,” the author notes.



The photograph (borrowed from the corporate video of OJSC “Central Research Institute“ Burevestnik ”) shows that the SAO is much lower than the 2-X66-1 transport and loading machine. That is, the self-propelled gun can be transferred not only by the An-124 “Ruslan” aircraft, but also by the Il-76.

At the same time, the compactness of the Coalition did not prevent it by its tactical and technical characteristics to surpass all the known self-propelled guns of the world, including those that are just being tested.

As the newspaper writes, "2C35 for many years will be the basis of the artillery park of the Russian army."

Help "Messenger of Mordovia": "2С35" Coalition-SV "is self-propelled brigade link, and is distinguished by a deserted fighting compartment, the automatic formation of a modular propelling charge. A pneumatic loading mechanism and a microwave propellant ignition system have been created for it. ”

Photos used:
vestnik-rm.ru
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  1. igor1981
    igor1981 10 November 2014 20: 34
    +65
    God help you. To the glory of Russia in fear of enemies.
    1. Civil
      Civil 10 November 2014 20: 37
      +22
      The German PzH 2000 is still the standard in this niche as and how its Chinese counterpart, you still need to see what ammunition will be used.
      1. The comment was deleted.
      2. Anton Gavrilov
        Anton Gavrilov 10 November 2014 20: 44
        +25
        This photo 1 comrade with the DNI posted on the network.)
        1. APASUS
          APASUS 10 November 2014 20: 57
          +15
          Quote: Anton Gavrilov
          This photo 1 comrade with the DNI posted on the network.)

          Judging by the vegetation, this is the southern part of Russia and Ukraine cannot be excluded, but it cannot be said that this "Coalition-SV" may well turn out to be "Msta"
          1. Major_Vortex
            Major_Vortex 10 November 2014 21: 06
            +5
            Quote: APASUS
            Quote: Anton Gavrilov
            This photo 1 comrade with the DNI posted on the network.)

            Judging by the vegetation, this is the southern part of Russia and Ukraine cannot be excluded, but it cannot be said that this "Coalition-SV" may well turn out to be "Msta"


            Yes, poplars are the south of Russia. Plus for attentiveness wink
            1. SHILO
              SHILO 10 November 2014 21: 22
              +15
              Quote: APASUS
              Judging by the vegetation, this is the southern part of Russia

              Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
              Yes, poplars are the south of Russia.


              Comrades, cool down - these poplars in the Donbass are like ... what in general a lot fellow !
              1. wirbeln
                wirbeln 10 November 2014 22: 01
                +26
                Foreman
                wirbeln Today, 22:00 PM New
                Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                Yes, poplars are the south of Russia. Plus for attentiveness AGA-AA ... And I didn’t think that I live in a resort. In our country, the northern border of distribution is located in the deciduous forest zone of the European part and in the birch forest-steppe in Western Siberia. It is found in small quantities in the south of the Tomsk region. Bold MINUS for Rangers Botany
                1. Sibiriya
                  Sibiriya 11 November 2014 00: 09
                  +3
                  not much off topic
                  © abcnews.md

                  WASHINGTON, 10 November. / Corr. TASS Ivan Lebedev. The US condemns Russia's actions towards Ukraine, which, in their opinion, lead to the militarization of the situation and the buildup of weapons in the east of the republic. This was announced on November 10 by the official representative of the US State Department, Jen Psaki, in connection with reports of Russian deliveries of heavy weapons to militia in the Donbass.

                  She stressed that Washington regards this as a "violation of the Minsk agreements" on the settlement of the situation in Ukraine. "If Russia continues such actions, it will have to pay a higher price for it," the American diplomat said.

                  “We condemn the increased militarization of the Donbass region by Russia by sending tanks and heavy weapons to the separatists,” the American diplomat said. “In recent days, observers of the OSCE (Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe) mission reported the movement of large columns of Russian tanks and heavy military equipment in the direction of front lines, as well as a significant increase in fire in the area of ​​the Donetsk airport and the settlement of Debaltseve, where the separatists, in violation of the Minsk agreements, apparently are trying to seize new territories. "
                  © EPA / MICHAEL REYNOLDS

                  The US is concerned about reports of movement of Russian troops near the border with Ukraine

                  According to her version, "Russia must withdraw all of its servicemen and military equipment from Ukraine" and call on the militias "to stop violating the ceasefire."

                  "As the White House already stated on November 3, if Moscow continues to ignore its obligations in accordance with the Minsk agreements and continues its destabilizing and dangerous actions, then it will have to pay an even greater price for this," the State Department spokesman repeated.
                  1. Sibiriya
                    Sibiriya 11 November 2014 00: 11
                    +5
                    Psaki stirred
                2. 33 Watcher
                  33 Watcher 11 November 2014 05: 55
                  +1
                  I agree, poplar is not an indicator.
                3. vdtomsk
                  vdtomsk 11 November 2014 10: 01
                  +1
                  In the Tomsk region there are no such poplars!
                4. NKVD
                  NKVD 11 November 2014 11: 51
                  0
                  Spear-shaped poplars love the south. In the north, they do not like to grow
                5. APASUS
                  APASUS 11 November 2014 19: 04
                  0
                  Quote: wirbeln
                  Foreman
                  wirbeln Today, 22:00 PM New
                  Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
                  Yes, poplars are the south of Russia. Plus for attentiveness AGA-AA ... And I didn’t think that I live in a resort. In our country, the northern border of distribution is located in the deciduous forest zone of the European part and in the birch forest-steppe in Western Siberia. It is found in small quantities in the south of the Tomsk region. Bold MINUS for Rangers Botany

                  Tell me how the pyramidal poplars tolerate Siberian frosts, I really want to listen
                  1. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 11 November 2014 20: 46
                    +4
                    Quote: APASUS
                    Tell me how the pyramidal poplars tolerate Siberian frosts, I really want to listen

                    I do not know how in Siberia, but in the Samara region is full. And we have frosts under 40.
                  2. IGMIT
                    IGMIT 12 November 2014 08: 17
                    +1
                    There are, but very few can say exotic units.
                  3. ibnvladimir
                    ibnvladimir 13 November 2014 13: 11
                    0
                    Well, when we had -35 in Togliatti, then by the spring all the poplars had turned green until the last. And we have them as if on purpose the whole city is seated. In the season, do not rest from fluff. Poplars are mostly pyramidal.
                6. nerpa
                  nerpa 12 November 2014 11: 55
                  0
                  And, in the Kaliningrad region this is an ordinary tree ....
              2. Sabroc
                Sabroc 10 November 2014 23: 31
                +6
                Well, you are attached to poplars, I’m in the sea of ​​poplars in Saratov, their sea in Rostov and Krasnodar
                1. grog_bm
                  grog_bm 11 November 2014 07: 19
                  +3
                  in Krasnodar is no longer there - they chopped them down))) many allergic sufferers suffer from them (pyramidal))) I speak only for Krasnodar and the region)))
                  1. Tyumen
                    Tyumen 11 November 2014 21: 48
                    +1
                    Quote: grog_bm
                    many allergic sufferers

                    We have all of Tyumen has been in poplars since the pre-war times, now they sawed it. It’s rare where you will meet in old areas.
                2. wasjasibirjac
                  wasjasibirjac 11 November 2014 07: 24
                  +2
                  and there are many more in the cities of Siberia. however, we have already snowed and poplars circled
              3. Koshak
                Koshak 11 November 2014 01: 54
                +5
                Quote: SHILO
                Comrades, cool down - these poplars in the Donbass are like ... what in general a lot fellow !

                What suddenly Donbass? Kuban, Stavropol Territory, Caucasus ... the whole south of Russia in such pyramidal poplars.
                1. Sergey Vl.
                  Sergey Vl. 11 November 2014 02: 28
                  +3
                  More Crimea need to add.
                  1. Semen Semyonitch
                    Semen Semyonitch 11 November 2014 05: 47
                    +18
                    Quote: Sergey Vl.
                    More Crimea needs to be added.


                    Comrade Crimea has already been added! laughing
                    1. podpolkovnik
                      podpolkovnik 11 November 2014 10: 19
                      +25
                      Comrade Crimea has already been added!

                      Even the children are aware of this ...
                      1. VENTA
                        VENTA 11 November 2014 13: 10
                        +4
                        Ah, well done!
                      2. mervino2007
                        mervino2007 11 November 2014 14: 03
                        +6
                        The reason is good. Crimea is Ours !. Do not downgrade the Behavior grade.
                    2. the villain
                      the villain 11 November 2014 18: 12
                      +2
                      Quote: Semyon Semyonich
                      Comrade Crimea has already been added!

                      Semen Semenych ... laughing It’s just laughing it’s a pity that only one + can be delivered hi
                      1. Semen Semyonitch
                        Semen Semyonitch 12 November 2014 06: 58
                        0
                        Quote: Villain
                        . It’s just

                        hi
                  2. Mih
                    Mih 12 November 2014 00: 48
                    0
                    More Crimea needs to be added.

                    Yes zadolbali Crimea. Crimea is ours. This should be recognized and stopped to complex on this occasion Kraintsy living in the Russian Federation. Otherwise - catch butterflies on a farm. am
            2. von_Tilsit
              von_Tilsit 10 November 2014 21: 38
              +4
              Guys, in Kaliningrad we also have poplars in bulk. The photo is unclear - isn’t it mounting?
              1. sandrmur76
                sandrmur76 10 November 2014 21: 59
                +9
                We don’t have poplars in Murmansk. Even on the chassis. But it is not appropriate to compare with the Germans and Swedes. At least with Swedish accuracy and kilograms released per minute. I’m ready to throw minuses lol
                1. Dr. Serg
                  Dr. Serg 10 November 2014 23: 38
                  +2
                  We have poplars in Murmansk ... The city hospital has a whole alley!)
            3. CALL.
              CALL. 10 November 2014 22: 02
              +3
              Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
              Yes, poplars are the south of Russia. Plus for attentiveness

              Such poplars grow in the Primorsky Territory.
            4. saber
              saber 10 November 2014 22: 13
              +33
              Uh ... laughing This is Nizhny Novgorod. Sormovskoe highway 1a. hi The parking lot in front of the Central Research Institute "Petrel" She was dragged to the landfill. all cars from the parking lot were dispersed
              1. ti_rex76
                ti_rex76 11 November 2014 00: 00
                +5
                I confirm.
            5. samoletil18
              samoletil18 10 November 2014 22: 19
              +4
              Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
              Yes, poplars are the south of Russia. Plus for attentiveness

              Wow, I minus for the carelessness. I observed poplars both in Krasnoyarsk and in Yekaterinburg everywhere. I didn’t watch the south request
              1. Aleksey_K
                Aleksey_K 10 November 2014 22: 39
                +1
                Precisely, in Yekaterinburg they are growing along some roads in bulk.
              2. _my opinion
                _my opinion 11 November 2014 13: 02
                0
                yes ... in Yekaterinburg there are a lot of poplars ... only we haven’t met a single pyramidal ... to me, at least ..
            6. Asgard of Iry
              Asgard of Iry 11 November 2014 01: 04
              0
              For the information of "connoisseurs", lovers and connoisseurs of native nature: in most cities and other settlements in the south of Western Siberia, the Southern Urals and the Middle Volga region, you can find similar landscapes with pyramidal poplars))) I'm not talking about Kursk, Belgorod, Voronezh and other central black earth landscapes ...
              1. VOLCHOXURAL
                VOLCHOXURAL 11 November 2014 01: 29
                0
                Quote: Asgard of Iry
                South Urals

                I confirm. Probably in all the schoolyards of our city, detachments of such poplars are standard!
              2. Mih
                Mih 12 November 2014 00: 55
                0
                settlements of the south of Western Siberia,

                Maybe, maybe, although I met the pyramidal only in Ukraine, but did not meet it in our northwestern region. May bi cacti grow in saibiria? He also visited there, but did not meet exotic plants. (maybe drank a little?) laughing
            7. kenig1
              kenig1 11 November 2014 03: 18
              0
              Pyramidal poplars have been growing in Novosibirsk for more than 40 years, on the avenue of veterans.
              1. Mih
                Mih 12 November 2014 01: 04
                0
                Pyramidal poplars have been growing in Novosibirsk for more than 40 years, on the avenue of veterans.

                Unfortunately, I was not in the glorious city of Novosibirsk - I repent. I am very sorry that I did not bother to visit such a glorious city, without irony, of which I am very sorry. Heard. Unfortunately, in all likelihood, in the near future I can not see the poplar on the walk of fame. Which is sad, but I will put up with it. Though... love
            8. mamont5
              mamont5 11 November 2014 03: 46
              0
              Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
              Yes, poplars are the south of Russia. Plus for attentiveness wink


              And what, poplars grow only in the south of Russia?
            9. 33 Watcher
              33 Watcher 11 November 2014 05: 52
              0
              In recent years, pyramidal poplars even began to appear in our country, in Irkutsk, so it’s probably hard to say anything :-) :-) :-)
              1. Genamatogen
                Genamatogen April 2 2015 06: 57
                0
                Point blank in Irkutsk did not see pyramidal poplars.
                We have them all spreading :)
            10. dog78
              dog78 11 November 2014 08: 12
              0
              There are a lot of poplars in the North-West, and in St. Petersburg it is full. So it doesn’t mean anything
              1. Mih
                Mih 12 November 2014 01: 29
                0
                dog78SU
                There are a lot of poplars in the North-West, and in St. Petersburg it is full.

                My dear friend, you just noticed that in the capital city of St. Petersburg is full of poplars.
                But we are talking about some kind of poplar - pyramidal.
                Indeed, St. Petersburg is full, if not to say that the redundancy of this plant is a problem for the city. The metamorphoses occurring with this species are all the more interesting.
                On Vasilievsky island - poplar is a scourge. Pooh is something.
            11. Zigmars
              Zigmars 12 November 2014 03: 08
              0
              Yes, poplars are the south of Russia.
              The south of Russia is wide and varied) For example, in our Primorsky Territory exactly the same poplars grow.
            12. demon184
              demon184 12 November 2014 11: 53
              0
              In Kazan, such poplars are also growing, and in Izhevsk they also seem to be there. Therefore, a rather controversial statement about the south of Russia
          2. Natalia
            Natalia 10 November 2014 22: 16
            -3
            Typical Ninth
            It features a deserted fighting compartment, automatic formation of a modular propellant charge.
            It was planned as part of the 2C19 modernization.
            However, then we realized that we needed to add more antlers, otherwise it’s not beautiful 2C19-1 or 2C19 B or D. We need just 2C35 "Coalition-SV". AND? as you are already brutal winked

            Already the uninitiated have the opinion that this is something original new, and just PPC.
            Put it on the Nineteen, only her chud rigged it.
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 10 November 2014 22: 29
              +7
              Quote: Natalia
              Typical Ninth

              Not typical, 155 mm export. A typical recoil-over top of the barrel and the tower is less rectangular.
              1. Natalia
                Natalia 10 November 2014 23: 00
                +1
                Quote: Spade
                Not typical, 155 mm export. A typical recoil-over top of the barrel and the tower is less rectangular.

                Well, it’s not a typical nineteen - but call it a pot. This is how to put a more bored engine on the VAZ 2109, from which it does not cease to be a nine. So it is here. Based on an object 195, caliber? Yes, at least 155,4 do, as I said from this, it will not cease to be ninth. This is just the further way of its modernization ..... well, you know how the Su-27 base is in aviation, and all the other innovations like the Polkalki ++ danced from it. This is like the T-72 and T-90. Hanged lotions and sense then ...... all the same, this is not a revolutionary fundamentally new development.

                I am a little versed in this, I have a dad by education, a specialist of the RAV service - now the lieutenant general.

                PS
                But you have a plus for a cool photo.
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 10 November 2014 23: 16
                  +19
                  Quote: Natalia
                  Yes, at least 155,4 do, as I said from this, it will not cease to be ninth.

                  Not so simple. 152 mm is a separate-case, 155-module loading.

                  Accordingly, the 152 mm Msta and 155 mm Msta towers are very different.

                  Quote: Natalia
                  I am a little versed in this, I have a dad by education, a specialist of the RAV service - now the lieutenant general.

                  And I understand what the RAB service does. And the end of the Penza school does not make a person a specialist in everything.
                  1. Natalia
                    Natalia 10 November 2014 23: 21
                    0
                    I tell you again, this is 19th. It is clear that it is better than the base model. It should be better than the base model. But this is a continuation of the 19th generation.
                    Quote: Spade
                    And the end of the Penza school does not make a person a specialist in everything.

                    And here is a mistake, on your part ...
                    Tula Artillery Engineering Institute

                    And my amazing dad - oh yes, he is a brilliant and courageous person. Afghanistan, Two Chechen Companies, 08.08.08. so ..... he knows a lot because he has seen a lot. And the stars he wears are drenched in his own blood ... but not only, but this is a heavy burden. While still in the post of colonel, he transported cargo 200, and looked into the emptiness of the eyes of despair of inconsolable mothers. But there was both valor and courage .... although as the Pope himself says: "in war there is no beauty in it, there is no poetry in it, war is a vile and disgusting spectacle, merciless and merciless."
                    1. Lopatov
                      Lopatov 10 November 2014 23: 46
                      +7
                      Then ask him. Although graduates of the Penza School of Ammunition should know this better.

                      I tell you again, this is 19th. It is clear that it is better than the base model.

                      She is no better. Is that the presence of an artillery ballistic station. But this is not a big advantage.

                      She's just different. For other ammunition and another type of loading is modular.
                      1. Natalia
                        Natalia 10 November 2014 23: 59
                        +1
                        Quote: Spade
                        Although graduates of the Penza School of Ammunition should know this better.

                        Graduates of any military school, university, institute are worthy of respect.
                        But everything is known in comparison, in personal experience.

                        With regards to 2C35, I will tell you that ..... a self-propelled guns of a fundamentally new generation have not been created. Yes, a modernized / improved model has been created, but no more.

                        The self-propelled guns of the new generation will also be planned (what can I say, it is already being developed) as well as the PAK FA, like ARMATA, etc ... and 2C35 is still the last century. It's 19 ha
                        And in the development of a new generation of self-propelled guns, we are still inferior to the same US and Israel. 2C35 will not block that hole; we need a new, fundamentally new base model.

                        The difference between 2C19 and 2C35 is like ..... well, let's say ....
                        The girl who put on the marafet powdered her nose painted her lips (and also stockings and a mini skirt), and the girl who did not make up came to work (and in jeans). But at the same time, this is still the same girl.

                        But you opened your mouths .... waaaaauuuuu, you do not care what the soul, or the technology. If the number is larger, well, Tada 100poods is better.
                      2. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 11 November 2014 00: 12
                        +13
                        Quote: Natalia
                        With regards to 2C35, I will tell you that ..... a self-propelled guns of a fundamentally new generation have not been created.


                        No, really. "Coalition" is a leap over your head. These are fundamental changes.

                        This is the first Soviet / Russian self-propelled guns with fully automatic loading.
                        This is the first Soviet / Russian self-propelled guns with remote data entry into fuses.
                        This is the first Soviet / Russian artillery equipment with modular loading

                        And this car will pull all the artillery. For example: new fuses will be needed. Accordingly, the accuracy and efficiency of the remaining guns will also increase. There will be no more dances with tambourines around the fuse with set keys.

                        And in the development of a new generation of self-propelled guns, we are still inferior to the same US and Israel.

                        The USA and especially Israel have no modern self-propelled guns at all.
                      3. Natalia
                        Natalia 11 November 2014 00: 18
                        -2
                        Quote: Spade
                        This is the first Soviet / Russian self-propelled guns with fully automatic loading.
                        This is the first Soviet / Russian self-propelled guns with remote data entry into fuses.
                        This is the first Soviet / Russian artillery equipment with modular loading

                        How many emotions you have .....
                        The Msta series has exhausted itself - 2C35 et is its latest modified development. Further it will be fundamentally new models. So 2С35 will not pull anyone anywhere. This is how to tell you .... a kind of ceiling series 19. Then everything.

                        You know such a Su-35, this is the ceiling of the evolution of the Su-27.
                        P.E. and came up with PAK FA.
                      4. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 11 November 2014 00: 43
                        +11
                        Quote: Natalia
                        The Msta series has exhausted itself - 2C35 et is its latest modified development.

                        No, the "Coalition" is no longer "Msta". This is a fundamentally different SPG.

                        German "AGM" / "Donar", Italian "LW Porcupine" and Swedish "Archer" are almost at its level. And that's all.

                        Why "almost on a par"? Because the "Coalition", having a larger transportable ammunition load, can shoot "from the ground" - that is, without using a transportable one.
                      5. Natalia
                        Natalia 11 November 2014 00: 20
                        -22
                        Quote: Spade
                        The USA and especially Israel have no modern self-propelled guns at all.

                        Ahhhh, well, if so ..... lol ))))))))
                        This is understandable - PO Tsriot, another. )))

                        Damn ....... I had the imprudence to think that you really ..... really have serious knowledge. And even somehow you sympathized. And then here ...... well, and what to talk about with you, Good night to you.
                      6. The Art of War
                        The Art of War 11 November 2014 00: 35
                        +3
                        Natalya, tell me please, what shells of militants did you smoke from the caves during the Chechen company?
                      7. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 11 November 2014 00: 57
                        +8
                        Quote: Natalia
                        Damn ....... I had the imprudence to think that you really ..... really have serious knowledge.

                        Let's start with the USA. The "Crusader" topic was closed, the NLOS-C topic was closed ... The Americans are starting the next eighth modernization of the SG M109 born in 1973.

                        Israel does not have its own SPGs at all. in 1986 they closed the topic "Slammer" and again use the SG M109 born in 1973.

                        Now tell me, Kali weasel, about "the latest American and Israeli self-propelled guns" ... Damn, even the Turkish "Firtina" and the Polish "Crab" are a generation more modern, because they have a normal barrel.
                      8. Natalia
                        Natalia 11 November 2014 17: 33
                        -4
                        Quote: Spade
                        The Crusader topic was closed, the NLOS-C topic was closed ...

                        Well, following your logic, let's talk about the Sherman tank and compare it with modern Russian military models ...
                      9. figwam
                        figwam 11 November 2014 13: 05
                        +9
                        This is understandable - PO Tsriot, another. )))
                        Wow! And it says the daughter of a general ...
                      10. Natalia
                        Natalia 11 November 2014 17: 25
                        -5
                        Quote: figvam
                        Wow! And it says the daughter of a general ...

                        But what can you do if 65% of schoolchildren freezes on the site, which does not skimp on slogans, and draws data from Pedevikia.
                        And then they sincerely believe in their righteousness, tearing up the navel here telling something about which they have no idea about sales.

                      11. lelikas
                        lelikas 11 November 2014 14: 04
                        +5
                        Quote: Natalia
                        Ahhhhh, well, if so .....))))))))
                        This is understandable - PO Tsriot, another. )))

                        Damn ....... I had the imprudence to think that you really ..... really have serious knowledge. And even somehow you sympathized. And then here ...... well, and what to talk about with you, Good night to you.

                        Natalia - excuse me generously - but yesterday, purely by chance, donkeys did not bite you?
                      12. Sid.74
                        Sid.74 11 November 2014 00: 23
                        +4
                        Quote: Spade
                        And this

                        And further.....
                        The self-propelled guns had to be able to work in the “Flurry of Fire” mode (English Multiple Rounds Simultaneous Impact, simultaneous hit of several shells), when several consecutive shots are fired so that the shells reach the target almost simultaneously.
                      13. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 11 November 2014 00: 59
                        +6
                        We call it a pseudo-volley. With a computer, you can even shoot from a 120 mm mortar of the war.
                      14. SAXA.SHURA
                        SAXA.SHURA 11 November 2014 17: 01
                        +1
                        The Americans do not expect to fight on their own land, and it makes no sense to carry such a fool around the planet.
                      15. Semen Semyonitch
                        Semen Semyonitch 11 November 2014 06: 00
                        +3
                        Quote: Natalia
                        If the number is larger, well, tada 100pood is better.


                        Which one has more?
                        Quote: Natalia
                        which brought a marafet powdered nose painted lips (as well as stockings and a mini skirt)

                        or
                        Quote: Natalia
                        who didn’t make up came to work (and in jeans).

                        ??? Size matters fellow
                2. swan
                  swan 11 November 2014 07: 49
                  +6
                  And then what is generally considered a "revolutionary, fundamentally new development"?
                  Now, if you change the engine in the nine, will it be another nine? And the box? And the suspension? And the wheels? And where do the body elements need to be strengthened and the external elements replaced with carbon ones? Will it be another nine? What is considered a "nine" in general, a "frame"?
                  And if you stick absolutely all the stuffing from 10 into the body of a 9-ka, what will it be a 9-ka or 10-ka?

                  If we talk about weapons, the chassis of all tracked vehicles has been gradually modernized since the 50s. At what point did it cease to be the T-44/54/64/72 and became the "fundamentally new" T-90 chassis?

                  Again, the breech of any cannon or howitzer, of course, changes. But fundamentally, this is the same device invented in the 19th century ... and on the "principles" of the known centuries from the 13-14th century.

                  It turns out then only a Gaussian cannon on a magnetic cushion will be "a fundamentally new development."
                3. unger
                  unger 11 November 2014 17: 40
                  0
                  worse, both the accuracy and the shooting distance of the mine loses to the Western models, they said it’s time to develop new models of barrels for mine, etc.
                4. unger
                  unger 11 November 2014 17: 40
                  0
                  worse, both the accuracy and the shooting distance of the mine loses to the Western models, they said it’s time to develop new models of barrels for mine, etc.
              2. alien50
                alien50 11 November 2014 16: 45
                +2
                Here it is, our 2C35. good
                1. Natalia
                  Natalia 11 November 2014 17: 48
                  0
                  Quote: alien50
                  Here it is, our 2C35.

                  Kindergarten, briefs with straps winked
                  Why are there too little things to do right away .....
            2. Wheel
              Wheel 11 November 2014 02: 58
              +1
              Quote: Natalia
              It was planned as part of the 2C19 modernization.

              I confirm.
            3. Mih
              Mih 12 November 2014 01: 40
              0
              Natalia
              According to some reports, the weight of the Russian car will be about 48 tons, while the German self-propelled gun pulls at all 55
              At the same time, the compactness of the Coalition did not prevent it by its tactical and technical characteristics to surpass all the known self-propelled guns of the world, including those that are just being tested.

              Nataliya. Put it on the Nineteen, only her chud rigged it. I ask for more details and arguments in the studio! And so all blah, blah, blah !!!! hi
            4. Mih
              Mih 12 November 2014 02: 10
              0
              Natalia
              And my amazing dad - oh yes, he is a brilliant and courageous person.
              While still in the post of colonel, he transported cargo 200, and looked into the emptiness of the eyes of despair of inconsolable mothers. As the Pope himself says: "in war there is no beauty, there is no poetry in it, war is a vile and disgusting sight, ruthless and merciless." There is no logical connection - the girl is war and death. The girl who pointed the marafet powdered her nose, but at the same time, this is still the same girl who came to work with no makeup.
              Tula Artillery Engineering Institute. What can I say? Right is hard. The girl who made the marafet? May be. I want to note that if a woman is a general, then I do not care for such an army.
              soldier
              1. Mih
                Mih 12 November 2014 21: 08
                0
                Natalie hi
                Actually, this is what I’m talking about - no need to refer to the dad of the general. Do you want to make us all feel like dad is a general? Link to relatives - does not roll. am
            5. Mih
              Mih 12 November 2014 21: 21
              0
              Natalia love
              And my amazing dad - oh yes, he is a brilliant and courageous person.
              I can agree with you, Natalie, but to announce this to the whole country - I would be shy. Your opinion about your father deserves respect. love I also love my dad, although I do it, well, I don’t know why - just like that !!!! tongue
          3. 33 Watcher
            33 Watcher 11 November 2014 05: 53
            0
            Hinting at military trials ... Like to practice ukroarmii :-) :-) :-)
            1. Mih
              Mih 12 November 2014 02: 46
              0
              33 Watcher
              Alas, my dear friend, I must disappoint you. Not involved, not involved. My field of activity does not involve such active actions. My motto is better to be than to seem. As for my observations, botanical studies, they are very superficial and, no more than any student who graduated from school in Soviet times. drinks
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          5. muginov2015
            muginov2015 11 November 2014 10: 54
            0
            These poplars (by the way pyramidal, if anyone does not know) grow everywhere where you can’t stick, for example, there are a lot of them in the Republic of Tatarstan, and this is far from the south.
        2. crazyrom
          crazyrom 10 November 2014 20: 58
          +4
          In the 3D picture and in secrecy, there is a feeling that the Coalition is being done on the basis of Almaty already!
          1. Ezhaak
            Ezhaak 10 November 2014 21: 35
            +1
            Quote: crazyrom
            there is a feeling that the Coalition

            Yes nifiga this is not Coalition-SV. Hang the noodles. Below exactly about this model, it’s a double-barreled shotgun, there should be advertising. And the tower is not similar to the layout under the awning. It seems like from Msta-S
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 10 November 2014 22: 32
              +5
              Not a double-barreled shotgun.
              1. Ezhaak
                Ezhaak 10 November 2014 22: 44
                +2
                Quote: Spade
                Not a double-barreled shotgun.

                He took it and gave out the whole secret. We didn’t agree!
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 10 November 2014 22: 47
                  +3
                  Initially, it was clear that a double-barreled shotgun is a game.
            2. Aleksey_K
              Aleksey_K 10 November 2014 22: 44
              +4
              This is not Msta-S. In Msta, the front inclined armor and its sharp angle are recessed, i.e. Do not bulge over the chassis, like a tank. In this one, even under a tarp, this front armor towers (protruding) above the chassis. Watch carefully - scout rangers.
              1. Ezhaak
                Ezhaak 10 November 2014 22: 49
                +1
                Quote: Алексей_К
                This is not Msta-S

                Compare the first and third shots. The first one seems to be a finished technique, but on it under the awning there are no two parallelepipeds that are visible on the layout on the sides of the barrel, on the frontal armor.
                Not Msta, and all right, fie on this deception!
                1. Lopatov
                  Lopatov 10 November 2014 23: 18
                  +6
                  Quote: Hedgehog
                  Not Msta, and all right, fie on this deception!
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        4. FREGATENKAPITAN
          FREGATENKAPITAN 10 November 2014 21: 25
          +5
          I live in Tolyatti on the Middle Volga .... Topolinaya street ..... Topoley sea!
          1. Semen Semyonitch
            Semen Semyonitch 11 November 2014 06: 06
            +2
            Quote: FREGATENKAPITAN
            .Snow the sea!


            Poplar fluff ... heat ... July ... And were all these poplars given? what
        5. Mih
          Mih 12 November 2014 00: 35
          0
          This photo 1 comrade with the DNI posted on the network.)

          This is not necessary !!!
        6. Mahdi
          Mahdi 13 November 2014 17: 15
          0
          2s19 is. Served. We know. Roll-back brake is visible
      3. Sid.74
        Sid.74 10 November 2014 20: 45
        +12
        compared to a German monster, ”the author notes. (PzH 2000.)

        Wow! Monster ...



        Or here is the tower on the frigate Hamburg!
        1. von_Tilsit
          von_Tilsit 10 November 2014 21: 40
          +9
          Ghanaians dream of "Bismarcs" and "Tirpitz". Unrealized complexes of losers in World War II))
        2. Max otto
          Max otto 10 November 2014 21: 42
          +9
          The German also does not have fully automatic loading, the propellant charge fits his hands. The video is on the Internet, for that dude it just takes horror, how everything works there, during the fighting - he will remain without any brush. And its mass is 56 tons.
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmGy0T7fH1U#t=37
        3. opus
          opus 10 November 2014 22: 15
          +7
          Quote: Sid.74
          Or here is the tower on the frigate Hamburg!

          1.Not on MS Hamburg, but on Fregatte HESSEN
          2.And not as in the photo, but as a WHOLE


          in 2000
          And then when I stood at the wall (under repair), and then "let's go and shoot"
          The photo that you show (155 mm / 52 MONARC on German Frigate FGS Hamburg) on ​​the HDW page (https://www.thyssenkrupp-marinesystems.com/de/) was not and is not.
          /http://www.rk-marine-kiel.de/files/bundeswehr/fahrzeuge/fregatte_f125.pdf
          3. So there was a test:

          in 2003 they put a model on the "Hamburg", but did not shoot
          4.You can't just put a land "head" on a sea platform (it will rot), and an LMS with a control center of the wrong system"
          5.The concept of MONARC (Modular Naval Artillery Concept), although it has withstood the test, is unlikely to even be applied on the F125, because the OTO-Melara (especially with its 127 mm / 64 LW) has a very strong influence on the German Navy (almost everything supplies OTO -Melara)
          1. Sid.74
            Sid.74 10 November 2014 23: 58
            +2
            Quote: opus
            1.Not on MS Hamburg, but on Fregatte HESSEN
            2.And not as in the photo, but as a WHOLE

            From how interesting it is! So it became Photoshop.
            Thank you for such interesting information! hi
      4. 73bor
        73bor 10 November 2014 21: 04
        +10
        Only ours can be taken with extra ammunition and the Germans without, and there are no aircraft like the An-124 in the Bundeswehr.
      5. OlegLex
        OlegLex 10 November 2014 21: 34
        +1
        and what kind of company is Volga-Dnepr?
        1. lelikas
          lelikas 10 November 2014 21: 50
          +3
          Quote: OlegLex
          and what kind of company is Volga-Dnepr?

          Our first private cargo airline is 10 Ruslanov and 5 76x.
          1. Basarev
            Basarev 10 November 2014 22: 40
            0
            Ruslanov is only 7 in the whole world!
            1. lelikas
              lelikas 11 November 2014 13: 58
              0
              Quote: Basarev
              Ruslanov is only 7 in the whole world!

              And what is not 5 or 3? Or is it better to have one?
        2. mahnabar
          mahnabar 10 November 2014 21: 52
          +1
          Russian, operates an 124, silt 76. ABC subsidiary operates 747 cargo
        3. tol100v
          tol100v 10 November 2014 23: 35
          0
          Quote: OlegLex
          and what kind of company is Volga-Dnepr?

          And you, dear, come to Ulyanovsk! They will tell you everything there!
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      7. Alcoholic
        Alcoholic 10 November 2014 22: 21
        +3
        As far as I know, the Bundes has problems with a charging machine.
        He does not want a reptile to work normally at temperatures above thirty degrees))
      8. seregatara1969
        seregatara1969 10 November 2014 23: 09
        +2
        right now it will gobble up a Russian plane
      9. Leonidych
        Leonidych 11 November 2014 02: 19
        +1
        yeah, tigers and panthers at the time, too, were the standard ....
    2. Denis fj
      Denis fj 10 November 2014 20: 52
      +6
      I think that the self-propelled guns "Coalition-SV" on a tracked platform is exactly what the ground forces will need in the near future .. the option with an electrochemical cannon is also very interesting .. I think that regardless of how the fate of the "coalition" develops, this project is simple must be completed .. Since this is a very promising direction in artillery in general .. also very interesting is the Coalition option for warships .. especially if it can be equipped with a promising electrochemical cannon with an increased firing range .. For warships this is ..
    3. subbtin.725
      subbtin.725 10 November 2014 20: 59
      +2
      microwave ignition system propellant charge "

      To my ignorance, the first time I heard about this. Interesting news for me.
      1. Black
        Black 10 November 2014 22: 45
        +2
        Quote: subbtin.725
        To my ignorance, the first time I heard about this. Interesting news for me.


        I join in the confusion .... What is there for the built-in microwave? Who knows, share ....
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 10 November 2014 23: 06
          +10
          The bottom line is that this self-propelled gun does not use shells with gunpowder bundles, but modular charges. Roughly speaking, advanced high-precision caps with a shell that burns when fired, having sufficient strength so as not to collapse when working with it.

          http://factmil.com/publ/vpk/artillerijsko_strelkovaja_promyshlennost/zarubezhnye
          _modulnye_metatelnye_zarjady_2011/19-1-0-250


          Why this is done: with a separate-shell loading (now mainly for the RF Armed Forces), an uncle is needed, who will have to pull out extra powder bunches from the shells. (as it happens now, for example, in 2С19) That is, almost automatic loading of shells with manual charges

          And since there is no sleeve, there is no capsule sleeve. The Americans were messing with the laser system when they created their XM2001 "Crusader", but the topic did not go

          http://pentagonus.ru/publ/lazernaja_sistema_vosplamenenija_porokhovykh_zarjadov_
          artillerijskikh_sistem_vooruzhjonnykh_sil_ssha_2010/6-1-0-2526


          We decided to return to the good old capsule sleeves, which are inserted either by hand, or from a special store, as, for example, in the German "Donar"

          Ours decided to use a microwave system for this, which is better in theory, since it provides the simultaneous ignition of all modules.

          http://strike-bol.ru/articles/sovremennoe-orujie/modulnye-artilleriiskie-zaryady
          -v-rossii /
      2. Denis fj
        Denis fj 10 November 2014 23: 01
        0
        “Instead of RDX, a much higher density substance was used in the gun. It exploded using plasma initiation - a special discharge. Due to the high density, the detonation speed is also higher than conventional explosives, and due to the use of plasma, in addition to kinetic energy, an electromagnetic pulse acts on the projectile, ”- this increases the range by one and a half times.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 10 November 2014 23: 21
          +10
          How difficult it is to describe the simplest effect that occurs when an iron spoon is thrust into a microwave ... laughing

          Caution, do not do this at home! (C)
        2. opus
          opus 11 November 2014 01: 53
          +4
          Quote: denis fj
          and due to the use of plasma, in addition to kinetic energy, an electromagnetic pulse acts on the projectile

          These are fairy tales (heresy)
          1.Plasma is quasineutral (the total electric charge of the plasma is approximately equal to zero)
          2. Plasma itself must be "accelerated" in EMF
          VASIMR: electrothermal plasma accelerator (EPU), uses radio waves to ionize and heat the working fluid and electromagnetic fields to accelerate plasma to obtain acceleration
          3. There would be an EMP, at such a distance -kirdyk to all the SU and CIUS equipment, and to the crew
          4.
          Quote: denis fj
          from this range increases by a half times.

          Yeah
          2 kg (total) to throw at a speed of 2520 m / s required to "attach" 10 MJ (one megajoule is the equivalent of the energy released when a truck hits about 8 tons into a wall at a speed of 160 km per hour.)
          5. The projectile in this case (EMP) can only be a DOG, but not as a formatting object, and not a high-precision

          6. It is necessary to accelerate along the entire length of the barrel, and not by "kick" EMP somewhere behind.
          For a railgun on something: to the projectile itself before entering the rails try to give as high initial speed as possible, using air or guns for this
    4. Giant thought
      Giant thought 10 November 2014 21: 26
      +5
      And here we are ahead of the rest. Glory to the Russian gunsmiths!
    5. vodolaz
      vodolaz 11 November 2014 00: 20
      +1
      Yeah, very good news. In 2001, he served in Chechnya, so we had all the weapons still Soviet-style.
  2. Yun Klob
    Yun Klob 10 November 2014 20: 34
    +2
    Why is the trunk one and not two? As if they would charge at once from two, so would everyone.
    1. VOLCHOXURAL
      VOLCHOXURAL 10 November 2014 20: 39
      +5
      Quote: Yoon Clob
      Why is the trunk one and not two? As if they would charge at once from two, so would everyone.

      Yeah. Say more like a peony right away with nuclear shells, yes laughing then exactly tryndets fellow
    2. Afinogen
      Afinogen 10 November 2014 20: 49
      +7
      Quote: Yoon Klob
      Why is the trunk one and not two?



      But where is the second trunk? They wanted to make her a double-barreled shotgun.


      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 10 November 2014 20: 52
        +6
        Quote: Athenogen
        But where is the second trunk? They wanted to make her a double-barreled shotgun.

        They said such an excessive rate of fire is not needed with such accuracy! request
        1. Afinogen
          Afinogen 10 November 2014 21: 11
          +6
          Quote: Sid.74
          They said such an excessive rate of fire is not needed with such accuracy!


          Who said that? Perhaps the Cossacks mishandled? laughing Our enemies already have shotguns.


          1. Sid.74
            Sid.74 10 November 2014 21: 28
            +3
            Quote: Athenogen
            Who said that? Perhaps the Cossacks mishandled? laughing

            Yes, sort of like MO! repeat
            Well, here the matter is probably different, they wanted to put the same art system on KAMAZ (Coalition-SV-KSh), in view of its unification with other systems, they refused the second barrel. Hosh on KAMAZ, Hosh on armature! Unification is the main reason.
            1. viruvalge412ee
              viruvalge412ee 10 November 2014 22: 14
              +2
              Necessary, for a caterpillar cycle bike, Dunno is also possible!
            2. Aleksey_K
              Aleksey_K 10 November 2014 23: 18
              +1
              Such a wheel howitzer is capable of driving only on asphalt roads. And not in the fields, copses and half-swamps. Well, where did you see that in Russia fields and swamps were covered with asphalt? And are there many self-propelled long-range howitzers in Russia on wheels? In the USSR there were such developments, but the caterpillar undercarriage is more universal and powerful.
          2. Lopatov
            Lopatov 10 November 2014 22: 37
            +1
            And you look at the caliber and available ranges. And consequently, and weight.
      2. Aleksey_K
        Aleksey_K 10 November 2014 23: 09
        0
        I think the whole thing is in weight (the tone on 10 is heavier) and in dimensions (height is one meter higher, which means railway transportation is impossible, the mains interferes). Well, in double-barreled. How to shoot her? Usually, each barrel needs to be shot separately. This is not a duck hunt with shot. We don’t even want to talk about maintenance, it’s more difficult. And in single-barrel artillery, everything has been worked out for a long time and the loading mechanism, etc.
    3. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 10 November 2014 22: 49
      0
      Why not four? Like a cruiser in Under Siege. Think and answer yourself.
      1. Afinogen
        Afinogen 10 November 2014 23: 07
        +2
        Quote: Алексей_К
        Why not four? Like a cruiser in Under Siege. Think and answer yourself.


        In the film "Under Siege" there was not a cruiser, but a battleship "Missouri" and there were not four but three barrels in its main caliber turret.
  3. Samaritan
    Samaritan 10 November 2014 20: 35
    +3
    soldier on the armature! Every day I look forward to "new" developments !!!
  4. kelevra
    kelevra 10 November 2014 20: 36
    +1
    But what about Msta, will it really slow down its release?
    1. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 10 November 2014 23: 19
      0
      So made just a few pieces. This only speaks of testing them in units, perhaps even participating in battles.
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 10 November 2014 23: 52
      +3
      Why produce it? It is enough to modernize those already in the troops.
  5. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 10 November 2014 20: 37
    +2
    While the talking room, no one can say anything concrete.
    1. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 10 November 2014 23: 20
      +1
      And what exactly is it about?
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  7. Wiruz
    Wiruz 10 November 2014 20: 41
    0
    Where is the second trunk? She must be double-barreled belay
    1. Serg 122
      Serg 122 10 November 2014 20: 50
      +42
      Where is the second trunk? She must be double-barreled

      How much is enough? wassat
      1. Denis fj
        Denis fj 10 November 2014 20: 53
        +9
        Here the Chinese have such a snake gorynych. wink

        clickable.
      2. Wiruz
        Wiruz 10 November 2014 20: 58
        +4
        How much is enough? wassat

        Yes, you are straight 80 level Petrosyan. That's what they promised us
        1. Serg 122
          Serg 122 10 November 2014 22: 28
          +1
          That's what they promised us

          They promised - it will be! hi
      3. Srgsoap
        Srgsoap 10 November 2014 21: 12
        +17
        Enough ... tortured already wassat
        1. Cristall
          Cristall 10 November 2014 23: 10
          +2
          Quote: SrgSoap
          Enough ... tortured already wassat

          shoot and fly away ..
          In general, the Australians have already tried to put a method of achieving such a rate of fire on the conveyor.
          Just the barrel itself carries a charge and a projectile with bricks ..
          But in general, Photoshop is cool.
        2. SAM 5
          SAM 5 11 November 2014 00: 02
          +3
          Go shoot the trunks. wink
      4. ziqzaq
        ziqzaq 10 November 2014 21: 13
        +7
        Quote: Serg 122
        How much is enough?

        Passed !!! Current will now be a little caterpillars .... lol
      5. von_Tilsit
        von_Tilsit 10 November 2014 21: 42
        +1
        Damn, I want this in WOT, the real decoration of the hangar would be))
      6. The Art of War
        The Art of War 10 November 2014 22: 37
        +2
        laughing Imagine the return, fly 50 meters
  8. basmach
    basmach 10 November 2014 20: 47
    +1
    One thing is not clear to me. During the DB "DAFs" where we will take for their transportation. Or with Kamaz trucks, then it will obviously be strained with mobility
    1. VOLCHOXURAL
      VOLCHOXURAL 10 November 2014 21: 56
      +3
      [Center]
      Quote: basmach
      One thing is not clear to me. During the DB "DAFs" where we will take for their transportation. Or with Kamaz trucks, then it will obviously be strained with mobility

      Today KAMAZ tractors are 17,3 liters more powerful than DAFs of 16 liters, if that!
      This is me as a mechanic. so do not drive KAMAZ !!!
    2. saber
      saber 10 November 2014 22: 24
      +1
      and that she must go through Nizhny Novgorod on her own?
  9. Aandrewsir
    Aandrewsir 10 November 2014 20: 48
    +3
    Very happy with this news! God help you, gods of fire !!!
    1. Max otto
      Max otto 10 November 2014 22: 07
      +5
      Not fire, but war hi , artillery is the god of war!
  10. Neighbor
    Neighbor 10 November 2014 20: 52
    +2
    Let the enemy know who is in an ambush, he will be beaten everywhere and everywhere.
  11. AlNikolaich
    AlNikolaich 10 November 2014 20: 53
    +5
    Double-barreled canceled. But about hodovka very interesting ... It seems like from Almaty should be. And judging
    apparently, the chassis is already ready, since the Coalition is on the go, in trials. I believe that in Almaty they are honing the battle
    module. Indeed, at the Coalition it has long been executed and polished to perfection. Waiting for the news!
  12. sv68
    sv68 10 November 2014 20: 54
    +5
    again there will be no analogue in the world! carry out the tests, launch into the series, let the army use it, and only then boast.
  13. Mayer1980
    Mayer1980 10 November 2014 20: 54
    +6
    What a double-barreled shotgun, have long abandoned this idea
  14. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 10 November 2014 20: 58
    +2
    Russian thought is always simpler and broader than that of any German, especially in the creation of weapons and, in particular, in the creation of this self-propelled gun ... VIVAT RUSSIA, VIVAT AT ALL TIMES!
  15. erased
    erased 10 November 2014 21: 01
    +1
    Some data is interesting. Range of fire with various shells. Rate of fire. Accuracy. Management system and integration into a single information system. Or is it still a secret secret?
    1. erased
      erased 10 November 2014 21: 10
      +3
      Wikipedia shows a range of 70 km. A joke or a reality?
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 10 November 2014 22: 38
        +2
        Most likely a reality. ARSom.
  16. Sultan Babai
    Sultan Babai 10 November 2014 21: 03
    +4
    Most importantly, for this self-propelled gun to create a lot of new smart ammunition ...
  17. or
    or 10 November 2014 21: 16
    +31
    "... the domestic howitzer will be more advanced than the best NATO self-propelled gun PzH 2000."
    But the very NATO PzH-2000 self-propelled guns, praised by the media as a miracle weapon (wunderwaffe)
    1. aleksandrs95
      aleksandrs95 10 November 2014 22: 32
      +2
      very nice information, but this in no way begs an increase in the range and accuracy of our howitzer artillery. A wide range of sensible accurate and even long-range shells is needed. And you need a mobile howitzer howitzer for quick transfer and cheaper operation in the south. more, it will be in demand for export, I am convinced of this.
    2. Alcoholic
      Alcoholic 10 November 2014 22: 34
      +1
      Zer Gut))
      And then it hurts all curly)))
  18. Drunya
    Drunya 10 November 2014 21: 18
    +1
    http://vz.ru/news/2014/11/10/714584.html
    Iran tested created on the basis of a captured American drone
    Tests of a combat unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV), created by local engineers on the basis of the American drone RQ-2011 captured in 170, were carried out, said Brigadier General of the Aerospace Forces of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards of Iran Amir Ali Hajizade.
    Hajizadeh said that the tests took place on Monday, but did not specify the details. In addition, he said that in the near future Iranian experts will present projects of several missiles, RIA Novosti reports with reference to the IRNA agency.
    Earlier, the Iranian UAV was demonstrated at the exhibition of achievements of the defense complex of the Islamic Republic. As the representative of the aerospace forces of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps said then, Iranian engineers and technicians managed not only to copy the details of the device, but also to get important information from hard drives. In particular, this drone is highly protected from radar.

    At the same time, it was reported that Iranian specialists finalized it in such a way that it would be able to carry out not only reconnaissance, but also combat missions in the rear of the enemy.

    Recall that in December 2011, Iran announced the capture of an American drone that invaded the country's airspace. The Iranians managed to land the ultra-modern RQ-170 in the desert, so engineers got it in working condition. The United States claimed that the device was out of order, and demanded his return, but Iran refused to return the UAV.
    1. Mama_Cholli
      Mama_Cholli 11 November 2014 11: 56
      0
      That's all ... Now drones will be martyrs, belts have probably already been ordered. You can not even put weapons.
  19. or
    or 10 November 2014 21: 24
    +6
    A self-propelled gun 2S35 "Coalition-SV" is really about two trunks, at least that was a year ago.
    1. lelikas
      lelikas 10 November 2014 21: 47
      +3
      Quote: oder
      A self-propelled gun 2S35 "Coalition-SV" is really about two trunks, at least that was a year ago.

      For a long time already with one - the index remained the same.
      1. alien50
        alien50 11 November 2014 17: 00
        +2
        What is it then?
      2. alien50
        alien50 11 November 2014 17: 02
        +1
        And what kind of apparatus is this?
  20. The Art of War
    The Art of War 10 November 2014 21: 32
    +5
    Off topic I apologize CNN stops broadcasting in Russia http://www.vedomosti.ru/companies/news/35779281/telekanal-cnn-prekraschaet-vesch
    anie-v-rossii
    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 10 November 2014 21: 46
      +4
      Quote: The Art of War
      Off topic I apologize CNN stops broadcasting in Russia

      Hehe! What is this all of a sudden? Are people in Russia laughing at their news? wassat
      1. The Art of War
        The Art of War 10 November 2014 21: 58
        +7
        And why look, they have already killed Obama.
      2. samoletil18
        samoletil18 10 November 2014 22: 31
        +4
        CNN retained only the brand. Long overbought. The news is no worse than psaki. Even in the USA they laugh at them. So, they are cutting back on areas where earnings are not good. This spring, they tried to change something as a product, but apparently it didn’t work out.
    2. Alf
      Alf 10 November 2014 22: 38
      +1
      Quote: The Art of War
      Off topic I apologize CNN stops broadcasting in Russia

      What a loss for Russia ...
      1. The Art of War
        The Art of War 10 November 2014 23: 03
        +1
        laughing For liberals, yes loss, now they will have to watch only Russian propaganda laughing
        1. izGOI
          izGOI 11 November 2014 00: 00
          0
          Those who need it receive information and instructions directly from the embassy. So do not worry about the liberals!
  21. Siberian
    Siberian 10 November 2014 21: 40
    0
    Quote: The Art of War
    The 2S35 "Coalition-SV" is a self-propelled gun of the brigade level, and is distinguished by an unmanned fighting compartment, automatic formation of a modular propellant charge. A pneumatic loading mechanism and a microwave system for ignition of a propellant charge have been created for it "................ Not so long ago, the Poles boasted of their artillery, it seems that our response to possible adversaries will not be worse, but according to -better ................. all the more since the focus is on the deserted fighting compartment ..............
    1. The Art of War
      The Art of War 10 November 2014 21: 52
      0
      This is not my quote. No.
  22. Drunya
    Drunya 10 November 2014 21: 52
    +3
    what does it mean ????? what 8 November 2014 in 17: 44
    China will provide free military assistance to Belarus

    The protocol to the agreements between the ministries of defense of Belarus and the PRC on the provision of gratuitous military assistance by China to Belarus was signed today between the two parties, BelTA learned from the press service of the Belarusian defense department.

    The document was signed during a meeting between Defense Minister Yuri Zhadobin and a Chinese military delegation led by Deputy Chief of the General Staff of the People’s Liberation Army of China Wang Guangzhong.

    The visit of the Chinese military delegation to Belarus takes place from November 7 to 10. The Ministry of Defense emphasized that it will contribute to the further development of cooperation in the military and military-technical fields of the two countries.

    Members of the Chinese delegation have already visited the Belarusian State Museum of the History of the Great Patriotic War. Tomorrow they will have to get acquainted with the exposition of the memorial complex "Brest Fortress - Hero".
    http://news.tut.by/society/422919.html
    1. Max otto
      Max otto 10 November 2014 21: 56
      +5
      How like, cars will give. Copies of the hamers, they are already here in order from the military. At first I saw and went nuts, and then my dad said - "Uzbek! These are Chinese".
    2. The Art of War
      The Art of War 10 November 2014 21: 57
      +5
      what Maybe China has an overabundance of military equipment, thereby also want to make a contribution to the re-equipment of the army of Belarus
      1. Aleksey_K
        Aleksey_K 10 November 2014 23: 22
        +2
        This is called to make China dependent.
  23. wirbeln
    wirbeln 10 November 2014 22: 00
    0
    Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
    Yes, poplars are the south of Russia. Plus for attentiveness
    AHA-A-A ... And I did not think that I live in a resort. In our country, the northern border of distribution is located in the deciduous forest zone of the European part and in the birch forest-steppe in Western Siberia. It is found in small quantities in the south of the Tomsk region. Bold MINUSfor botany trackers
  24. muhomor
    muhomor 10 November 2014 22: 10
    0
    The trickier the system, the more expensive and more difficult to operate. I wonder how much more efficient is the coalition than 2C3 and it would be nice to calculate the price / performance ratio? No.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 10 November 2014 22: 39
      0
      Immeasurably more effective. Like a squeak and a self-loading rifle.
  25. The Art of War
    The Art of War 10 November 2014 22: 22
    +7
    Medvedev has issued a state secret - aliens among us!
    1. The Art of War
      The Art of War 10 November 2014 22: 23
      +2
      http://www.topnews.ru/news_id_64514.html СМИ: СНОУДЕН ПЕРЕДАЛ РОССИИ ДОКУМЕНТЫ О ТОМ, ЧТО США ПРАВЯТ ПРИШЕЛЬЦЫ
    2. aleksandrs95
      aleksandrs95 10 November 2014 22: 39
      -1
      Well, I like him, cool uncle. Well done, respect.
    3. Alf
      Alf 10 November 2014 22: 42
      +2
      Quote: The Art of War
      Medvedev has issued a state secret - aliens among us!

      Is he to himself? Then it is clear why all nonsense comes from him. In Russia, panic can no longer cause anything.
  26. viruvalge412ee
    viruvalge412ee 10 November 2014 22: 25
    +2
    Wars show that any modified weapons find their proper use. Only competent brains that are trying to use it and the lack of ball in command are important!
    1. mervino2007
      mervino2007 11 November 2014 14: 56
      0
      viruvalge412ee (2) lack of ball in command!

      Remember the beginning of the war 8.8.8. Command was not where it should be.
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  27. samoletil18
    samoletil18 10 November 2014 22: 37
    0
    West of the Rostov region can be tested. Joke, of course, but I would like to.
  28. kilodn
    kilodn 10 November 2014 22: 38
    +1
    Oh good! It's time to raise the defense.
  29. Lopatov
    Lopatov 10 November 2014 22: 43
    +2
    Domestic howitzer "Coalition-SV" will be more mobile than the best self-propelled guns of the world

    How's that? What are the characteristics of "mobile"?

    will be more advanced than the best NATO PzH 2000 self-propelled gun.

    This is one of those adopted for service. But the Germans also have "Donar"
  30. Black
    Black 10 November 2014 22: 54
    0
    Don's technical characteristics:
    Crew: 2 people.
    Combat weight: 35 t.
    Case Length: 10030 mm
    Case Width: 3000mm
    Height: 2800 mm

    Armament:
    Gun: caliber 155 mm
    Barrel length: 52 caliber
    Rate of fire: 6 rounds per minute
    Firing Range: 40 m
    Gun ammunition: 30
    Firing Range: 40 - 56 km
    Machine guns: 7,62 mm MG3

    Mobility:
    Engine: diesel MTU 8V 1999 530 kW (720 PS)
    Highway speed: 60 km / h
    Cruising on the highway: 500 km


    Is the coalition more mobile? In general, who knows from the above indicated strips, what do we have?
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 10 November 2014 23: 30
      +2
      Quote: Chen
      Mobility:
      Engine: diesel MTU 8V 1999 530 kW (720 PS)
      Highway speed: 60 km / h
      Cruising on the highway: 500 km

      laughing

      Everything is much more interesting there.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 10 November 2014 23: 41
        +2
        Here's something like this:
  31. PKTRL
    PKTRL 10 November 2014 23: 11
    0
    Quote: wirbeln
    Foreman
    wirbeln Today, 22:00 PM New
    Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
    Yes, poplars are the south of Russia. Plus for attentiveness AGA-AA ... And I didn’t think that I live in a resort. In our country, the northern border of distribution is located in the deciduous forest zone of the European part and in the birch forest-steppe in Western Siberia. It is found in small quantities in the south of the Tomsk region. Bold MINUS for Rangers Botany

    Poplars "arrow-shaped" are decorative poplars. They were planted in the south (Donbass, Kuban, Stavropol region) to prevent soil erosion (delimited fields). Not whimsical in arid and windy places. They endure frost at 40 (rarely). Frost-resistant poplars are spreading, grow everywhere. In the Donbass, decorative poplars are also grown because they are a powerful absorber of CO2 (there was a lot of it in Soviet times, when metallurgical plants and central processing plants at mines were in full swing). And perhaps their (poplars) protection from CO2 is the most important merit! ;)
    1. samoletil18
      samoletil18 10 November 2014 23: 40
      +1
      Rocket-like poplars grow along Vostochnaya Street between Malyshev and Kuibyshev in the city of Yekaterinburg.
  32. voliador
    voliador 10 November 2014 23: 24
    +1
    Really small. How it behaves when shot.
  33. eleronn
    eleronn 10 November 2014 23: 47
    0
    Mobility is provided by an imported tractor ?! Do not pull your own?
    1. Megatron
      Megatron 11 November 2014 00: 06
      0
      No, except for the KZKT or MZKT, there are no ordinary roads in Russia to be able to tow such equipment. The mass of self-propelled guns is 50 tons and trawl 10, tractor 10, total gross weight of the hitch ~ 70 tons. KamAZ 6460 - the gross train weight is 46 tons, KamAZ 65225 - 59 tons, so alas!

      In general, of course they will pull, but barely and on even asphalt! Regrettably, but a fact.
  34. The Art of War
    The Art of War 11 November 2014 00: 08
    +1
    Wildly sorry off topic but laughing America eh drive me in debt trillion more http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20141110/1032667160.html
    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 11 November 2014 00: 15
      +1
      Quote: The Art of War
      America eh drive me in debt trillion more

      Do they need ohrenelion? wassat

      Media: The Pentagon may ask for $ 1 trillion to strengthen its nuclear arsenal.

      MOSCOW, 10 Nov - RIA News. The United States fears losing its superiority as a nuclear superpower - up to $ 1 trillion could be required to upgrade deadly weapons, writes Swiss Tages Anzeiger.

      Pentagon chief Chuck Hagel is expected to present a report on "gaps and deficits" in US nuclear weapons within a few weeks.

      The publication reports that the US nuclear forces are experiencing problems with personnel and appropriations for their modernization. Charles McMillan, director of the Los Alamos Nuclear Weapons Laboratory, complained at a Senate hearing that the state was allocating too little to research and development and training qualified engineers.

      Specialists call the amount that the defense department can request for these purposes - it can reach $ 1 trillion.

      Analyst John Hamry of the Center for Strategic International Studies believes that after the end of the Cold War and the collapse of the USSR, politicians in the United States "relaxed" and did not attach importance to the development of their military nuclear potential.

      "Now the Russians are returning, and the Chinese are creating their own arsenal," the Swiss edition quotes the expert.

      RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20141110/1032667160.html#ixzz3IhcfUpkV
  35. tanker95
    tanker95 11 November 2014 01: 20
    -1
    veri good machines
  36. s30461
    s30461 11 November 2014 01: 51
    0
    I read the comments and don’t understand that they’re so worried? Mixed poplars and self-propelled guns ...
    Until there are competitions like tank biathlon for self-propelled guns (well, don’t fight for the sake of comparing self-propelled guns) you won’t make any definite conclusions. I think that any attitude has positive and negative sides. In the end, they are all close in their characteristics, except for one - cost. And here in Russia, from competitors only China wassat
  37. MolGro
    MolGro 11 November 2014 03: 40
    0
    http://www.burevestnik.com/products/info_2.html
    This link has a pitchfork from which this photo was taken !!
    There is also a lot of other video and photo material !!
    And yes, I posted the photo here) from one article)
  38. sazhka4
    sazhka4 11 November 2014 04: 58
    +2
    The word "will" is annoying. It looks like verbiage. Either it is or it is not. With the "May" Decrees, too, garbage turned out)))
  39. Bmwxnumx
    Bmwxnumx 11 November 2014 05: 08
    0
    We can do military equipment!
    Nothing to say.
  40. Bayonet
    Bayonet 11 November 2014 06: 34
    +1
    "The domestic howitzer" Coalition-SV "will be more mobile than the best self-propelled guns in the world."
    Here it WILL, it just touches! As the saying goes: "The chicken is in the nest, the testicle is in ...", and already "BETTER ALL!".
  41. el.krokodil
    el.krokodil 11 November 2014 06: 37
    0
    here's the pattern ..
    1. Tartary
      Tartary 13 November 2014 02: 28
      0
      And in fact ... And nothing that the "Coalition SV" with two barrels, and not as in the picture to the article ??

      In Primorye, these poplars are darkness.
  42. Zomanus
    Zomanus 11 November 2014 06: 45
    0
    SPG is good. You just need to remember that such a beauty reveals all her best qualities only by working in conjunction with the intelligence and target designation service. And what do we have in this area? In general, the ideal is that every commander or even a soldier can give accurate target designation and correction for such weapons. And then it will be possible to rejoice.
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  44. Cormorants
    Cormorants 11 November 2014 09: 02
    +2
    Quote: Civil
    The German PzH 2000 is still the standard in this niche as and how its Chinese counterpart, you still need to see what ammunition will be used.

    On such a ride on the Robin!
  45. Devo4ka_mr
    Devo4ka_mr 11 November 2014 09: 23
    0
    Hello everyone! I am very interested in this topic. I’ve been trying to learn for a long time, I really need to work, but for a blonde it’s very difficult, my brain is not enough)))))
  46. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 11 November 2014 09: 26
    0
    hello to our "friends"
  47. colorado
    colorado 11 November 2014 10: 20
    0
    I live in Tyumen full of poplars
  48. doxtop
    doxtop 11 November 2014 10: 55
    0
    Quote: SHILO
    Quote: APASUS
    Judging by the vegetation, this is the southern part of Russia

    Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
    Yes, poplars are the south of Russia.


    Comrades, cool down - these poplars in the Donbass are like ... what in general a lot fellow !

    Lord! Why are you attached to poplars !? wassat "Poplar" usually fly to Kamchatka "Kura". Well, the trees are poplars ... they are planted all over Russia. In the Samara region, for example, they are like mushrooms after the rain! laughing
    It follows that this photo was taken simultaneously in 100500 million places in the Russian Federation. wassat
  49. Steel loli
    Steel loli 11 November 2014 12: 08
    -4
    Longing is sadness.
    I want to cry from our "unparalleled" designers.

    Foreign aircraft designers: Our stealth fighter is completely invisible, versatile, equipped with smart missiles and is capable of shooting down enemy targets thousands of kilometers away.
    Russian aircraft designers: And our fighter is capable of beautifully somersaulting in the air and it is cheap.

    Foreign designers of self-propelled guns: Our self-propelled gun is equipped with an automatic guidance system, has an automatic loader, is equipped with an automatic fire extinguishing system, is capable of aiming at a target by satellite and hits 60 km.

    Russian designers of self-propelled guns: Our self-propelled gun has a tractor chassis and is able to drive through swamps. It’s also cheap.

    Is the hint clear?
    1. Mih
      Mih 12 November 2014 00: 43
      0
      Russian designers of self-propelled guns: Our self-propelled gun has a tractor chassis and is able to drive through swamps. It’s also cheap.

      I did not understand your irony, but it is present, if there are constructive comments - in the studio. And if this is a simple ernich, then in the ass. soldier
  50. Gans1234
    Gans1234 11 November 2014 12: 31
    +2
    Sorry for the 2x barrels abandoned - it would be a complete break and immensely innovative for modern self-propelled guns