Banderia is a chimera

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Banderia is a chimera


For a better understanding of the processes occurring in Ukraine, it is necessary to turn to the theory of ethnogenesis of Lev Nikolaevich Gumilev. Namely, to its definition of a chimera:
“Chimera is a form of coexistence of two or several incompatible (having different complementarity) ethnic groups of different superethnic systems in the passionary theory of ethnogenesis, in which their originality disappears.”

In Ukraine in the twentieth century, two different ethnic groups clashed — the South Russian (Little Russian) member of the Russian superethnos and the Galician, which was already a chimera due to the long interaction of the Hutsul, Magyar, Austrian and Polish cultures (and corresponding ethnic groups). From the thirteenth century, Galicia was cut off from the rest of the Russian lands, and gradually fell under the transforming influence of the invaders, assimilated.

Ethnically, this was expressed in a mixture of different peoples inhabiting this territory, culturally - in the penetration and dominance of Polish and Magyar culture, in religion - in replacing Orthodoxy with Greek Catholicism and uniatism, in linguistic - in the strongest influence of other language groups on the formation of local dialect. “Kedi Mi came the map of Narokovac, Becoming my own Doshikovac” - this is the “Ukrainian folk song” of that region, a great example of a cross between the Magyar and Polish words, the words of which only occasionally come across Ukrainian.

As for the attempts of the inhabitants of Galicia to associate themselves with the Zaporozhye Cossacks, it is worth remembering two simple facts. Firstly, a Zaporozhian could be a person of any nationality, but necessarily and exclusively Orthodox (and the inhabitants of Galicia are mostly Greek Catholics or Uniates). Secondly, historical no facts of participation of the inhabitants of Galicia in the national liberation struggle of 1648-54 were recorded. Even a few.

It should be noted that for a long time Lviv remained the center of Russophilism and the bastion of Orthodoxy (in it for centuries there existed Russophile philosophical studios that resisted polishing). But the Lviv pogrom in the summer of 1941, almost annihilated the bearers of this ethno-sociocultural tradition.

And two such aliens, and for about seven hundred years without a common history of community, were artificially and largely forcibly fused together in the middle of the last century. What could not but give rise to a chimera.


“The people who grew up in the contact zone do not belong to any of the contacting superethnos, each of which is distinguished by original ethnic traditions and mentality. In the chimera, however, a haphazard combination of incompatible behavioral traits prevails, in place of a single mentality comes complete chaos of tastes, attitudes and ideas prevailing in society. ”

This we can clearly see in Ukraine. For example, such a chimeric and absurd phenomenon as the Russian-speaking Ukrainian nationalist with the Russian surname, while honoring Bandera and hating Russia and Russians.

Or embroidery with jeans and scarf. Or “supporter of independence”, which is not against external management by the EU or the US (anyone, but not Russia!). Or a “patriot” in an “I love London” T-shirt waving an EU flag.

Or carriers of surzhik, on 70-80% consisting of Russian words, but at the same time advocating the prohibition or restriction of the rights of the Russian language. Or a completely Russian-speaking person who does not speak Ukrainian, but opposes the second Russian state. Or a person who claims that millions of Donbass residents are “genetic slaves”, while “Asian hordes” live in Russia, but at the same time sincerely wondering why they call him a Nazi.

This also includes the neurotic perception of history. The carrier of the chimeric consciousness hates Prince Rurik for his Varangian origin, Prince Vladimir for the baptism of Russia, then it was bad under the Mongols and the Poles, and Khmelnitsky, a scoundrel, broke the European integrators, then it was "damned" 250 years under the Russian Empire, he hates the "scoop" fiercely, and at the same time claims that he loves the history of his country. So when was his perception good? In the fictional time of the theoretically possible, but not the past.

“In such a chimeric environment, antisystem ideologies flourish. Chimeras of the anti-system arising in the depths are, as a rule, the initiators of bloody conflicts, or the chimera is made a victim of neighboring ethnic groups. A chimera can exist in the body of a healthy ethnic group like a cancer tumor, exist at its expense and without performing any constructive work. At the same time, it can be relatively harmless (passive) or it becomes a breeding ground for aggressive antisystems. ”

What we see in Ukraine. After the last relapse in the forties of the last century, when dozens (if not hundreds) of thousands of people died from the Bandera ideology, for several decades this destructive ideology parasitized unnoticed on Soviet society, which had immunity against it (since too many people remembered that for nastiness actually). And after Ukraine gained independence and a change in the direction of development, the Bandera ideology flourished with unbridled color, meeting no resistance from the official authorities and feeding on money from the oligarchs, which now results in thousands of civilian casualties.

What is the antisystema of modern Ukrainian "Svidomo" ideology? First, it is a secondary nature, the desire to blindly imitate the West and to fulfill any of its requirements and orders. Secondly, this is the absence of a sane and holistic positive program. The only thing that keeps her supporters together is a rabid, fierce, irrational hatred of Russia and the Russians. And beyond that is emptiness.

At the same time, both liberals and a significant part of nationalists perceive the state as an enemy. Liberals seek to make the state as weak as possible, serving the private interests of big business. And even those nationalists who want to see the state strong, motivate it only by the need for repression against the Russians and other "aliens." None of them have a scientific-production, project or social component (and even the fight against corruption in them results in the fight against the state). Moreover, in the ideology of the nationalists, there is often a ridiculous opposition of the state and “NaZii”, and “NaZii” is clearly preferred.

And the dominance of the abstract (according to Anderson, the nation is a fictional community) over the real and practical is always destructive.

Only within the framework of the chimera can such schizophrenic characters, such as Irina Fahrion, who can be dying and killing, not only appear, but also become successful, authoritative and significant.

Also, only within the framework of a chimeric anti-system, a cult of death similar to the Ukrainian one can arise, when national symbols make famines and victims, glorify defeats and failures (Mazepa, Petliura, Bandera - all obvious losers), senselessly lost “heroes Kruty” and “heavenly hundreds” are extolled. And to obvious achievements such as the participation of Ukraine in the victory over Nazism or the flight of man into space — negative perception is being formed by centralized propaganda. Well, the negative attitude towards Lenin - the person who essentially created the Ukrainian statehood and actively pursued a policy of Ukrainization - speaks for itself.

There is a good news: Chimeras don't last long. And this means that the torment of people caught in its field of influence will be short-lived. Chimeric ethnic groups usually disintegrate, after which they either die out or belong to more viable and creative ethnic groups.
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  1. +4
    23 October 2014 07: 33
    We discussed this article yesterday.
    1. 0
      23 October 2014 09: 14
      Let's hope that the classics this time will be right.
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  2. +2
    23 October 2014 07: 36
    Right Only the picture was changed.
  3. +10
    23 October 2014 07: 36
    Not in the subject, but the old joke remembered:
    The crest, bugger and millionaire got to the island to the cannibals. The condition for the release was voiced as either $ 1000 or Copulation with the whole "herd" or Eat 100 kg of salt. The millionaire laid out the money and sailed away on the boat. Pederast got pleasure from all the men of the island and dumped. Khokhol - I will be true! Gobbled up a couple of kg and said - no, Fuck "those ... Man 5 fucked him ... -No, I’ll be true ... I ate another 15 kg ... -I can’t bilsh, Fuck" those ... Well it another 15 people posted. The crest burst into tears, got into his bosom - Yes, take these pennies !!!
    1. 0
      23 October 2014 09: 04
      Avaricious pays twice, and h.o.h.o.l - all the time
  4. +2
    23 October 2014 07: 37
    Very sensible article. Yesterday already appreciated. Thank. Yes
    1. 0
      24 October 2014 00: 41
      Something tells me that a friend with the surname Rogers is not such a friend as he seems ...
      Did you swallow this joke too?
      And two such aliens, and for about seven hundred years without a common history of community, were artificially and largely forcibly fused together in the middle of the last century. What could not but give rise to a chimera.

      The middle of the last century is the USSR under the rule of Stalin
      So, who is to blame for the disgrace of today ... If it weren’t for Stalin, there wouldn’t be a chimera
      Was it not necessary to fuse or was it not necessary to liberate Ukraine from fascism?
      If it had not been "floated", then Ukraine would now be like Poland - loaded to the eyeballs with NATO missiles
      Or didn’t you have to resist at all (everything would have happened quickly and almost didn’t hurt even then - when the Russians had to obey, when the overseas owner ordered ...) does the author hint at this?
      And if we assent to the author about the chimera, then by inertia we agree and with "are in many ways forcibly fused." That is, we admit our guilt for the Holodomor too .. So? Katyn has already been taken over

      Old swan song of the Anglo-Saxons, and you are being ...
  5. +6
    23 October 2014 07: 39
    "Chimeras don't live long," but they have enough time to spoil.
  6. +5
    23 October 2014 07: 40
    and Galician, already a chimera

    chimeras do not live long. And this means that the torment of people in her field of influence will be short-lived. Chimeric ethnic groups usually disintegrate, after which they either die out or enter into more viable and creative ethnic groups.

    Well, how can I say ... The Galician chimera entered the creative Soviet people, but by no means died out. And even very successfully adapted, by no means changing its essence. It’s impossible to completely destroy it, so let's give it to Europe. Instead of gas. And let them understand.
  7. +2
    23 October 2014 07: 41
    There is good news: chimeras do not live long.

    Velikoukry and this postulate will try to refute Yes . And I do not exclude that successfully ...
  8. +2
    23 October 2014 07: 45
    The author is right in many ways .. But you also need a point of location of the so-called Ukraine in the functioning system. She has the last stage of statefulness - a predisposition state of agony, death. Similar signs were in the USSR before the collapse. Economics over consciousness, unwillingness to admit one’s mistakes, search for an external enemy. Many shout chants and participate in nationalist events for money, for many this is the only source of family funding.
  9. +2
    23 October 2014 07: 48
    Yeah, at one time they didn’t work, these poisonous shoots didn’t uproot ...
  10. +2
    23 October 2014 07: 48
    Bandera is a chimera. Chimeras do not live long..This is enough ... Do they understand ..drops ...
    1. 0
      24 October 2014 00: 27
      So they do everything according to the author’s prescription: to eliminate the Russian-speaking population from the territory - as a result of which the ethnos will become monolithic and the chimera will disappear.

      They wrote to you:
      Chimeric ethnic groups usually disintegrate, after which they either die out or enter into more viable and creative ethnic groups.

      Think about it: who should die out, according to Mr. with a surname Rogers, and who will enter a creative ethnic group
      (English Saxons have always positioned themselves as an exceptionally viable and creative ethnic group)
  11. +3
    23 October 2014 07: 52
    Here take a look at the curious opus of the enlightened Jew ... He really ripened! Ride around Ukraine ..

    http://politikus.ru/articles/33628-lvovskie-vpechatleniya.html


    A couple of quotes:

    "All of a sudden I was shocked. All these Cossacks and Cossacks had an amulet with a swastika around their necks. I asked what it was? old Cossack amulet. " belay

    "I left Lviv with a terrible feeling. The paving stones of this city are watered with the blood of my great-grandfathers, my unborn brothers and sisters (literally, not figuratively), with the blood of 100 thousand Jews, whom the inhabitants of this city drove to Auschwitz. And this is not here. is part of history. In this city, the executioners did not repent. "

    “As an Israeli, I had a question, to the Israeli government, to the Yad-V-Hashem museum, to the Simon Wiesenthal Foundation. You who are still looking for the Righteous Among the Nations to honor them, you who are still you are persecuting Nazi executioners all over the world, who you brought to Israel, tried and hanged Nazi executioner # 1 Adolf Eichmann, how could you miss the Lviv renaissance of fascism? !!. Why am I paying you taxes? "

    There would be more of these "DISCOVERIES" for Western partners.!
    1. +3
      23 October 2014 08: 18
      The author says that he considers himself a Zionist. And what is Zionism if not the most rabid variety of fascism?
  12. +1
    23 October 2014 07: 54
    There is good news: chimeras do not live long. And this means that the torment of people in her field of influence will be short-lived. Chimeric ethnic groups usually disintegrate, after which they either die out or enter into more viable and creative ethnic groups.

    I am afraid that the self-destruction of the chimera in our case will be somewhat delayed due to external replenishment - material (the IMF, apparently, will pay for gas) and ideological (the slogan like everything is "civilized" on your, Chimera, side and we are waiting, we will not wait for you the weight).
    Therefore, without an external pendal, too, I think, it will not work ...
    1. 0
      24 October 2014 00: 18
      The author did not specify one thing ... "Soon" in the understanding of historians is 200-400 years, which is really not a lot on a historical scale ...
      And if we recall Gumilyov, whom the author mentioned, his example of a chimera is the Khazar-Jewish kingdom, which was bent not from internal contradictions, but from swords and spears of Russian squads led by Prince Svyatoslav.
      And we, perhaps, will wait?
    2. 0
      24 October 2014 15: 52
      Quote: Moore

      I am afraid that the self-destruction of the chimera in our case will be somewhat delayed due to external replenishment - material (the IMF, apparently, will pay for gas) and ideological (the slogan like everything is "civilized" on your, Chimera, side and we are waiting, we will not wait for you the weight).
      Therefore, without an external pendal, too, I think, it will not work ...

      Joke!
      The IMF does not do charity work, at most it can slightly reduce the interest on the loan and increase the repayment period, but you won’t be full of ideology.
  13. +1
    23 October 2014 08: 01
    Bandera Ukraine will disappear as soon as leadership from outside disappears, the same applies to Kosovo
  14. +3
    23 October 2014 08: 22
    Something fed up with encouraging articles about the imminent collapse of urine. Since spring I read them. And the fuel at the nuclear power plant they have to run out and the money in the treasury and the equipment will not start and they will love the sowing. And what, where is this demise of ruin? Yes, if after the election they begin to massively sell (privatize) the ruin, then it will last more than one year, poisoning everything around. And it will fall into many ruins, which will also poison our existence.
  15. +1
    23 October 2014 08: 34
    Bandera Ukraine will disappear as soon as the leadership disappears from the outside
    Yes, yes it is necessary to distract the puppeteer. Sounds Russian choral song.
    Mexicans, Mexicans - we like you la la!
    Your songs, your dances - but Texas was given in vain!
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    +4
    23 October 2014 08: 36
    The "good news" from Alexander Rogers (about the short-lived chimeras) is really encouraging! And then I'm a little tired of reading that in Galicia - an urgent need to put an end to it. Like, she is like that, because the genes themselves dictate it to her. Either fortunately, or perhaps sadness, but what exactly the genes dictate is still not completely clear to anyone: with practically the same genes, a rare trait and a walking virtue are possible (there are many genes, so if not all, then much is determined by their "inter-individual", "choral" interaction).

    And I also want to formulate MY PROPOSAL - categorically not to exterminate and not offend (!) Those who do not like many, - butchering those who are rejected with merciless "minuses"!
    It would be worth installing limit on the part of "beating up the unwanted", because when everyone pounces on one - this is not a musketeer or a military one, but like an uncontrollable crowd. The unfortunate man got his five "minuses", realized that "everyone here does not like him and drive him away" - and leave him alone: ​​it will, at least, look like the mercy of the winner.
    And yesterday the same person happened to see 29 (!) Minuses. And after all, he did not even use a single word of those that always insult everyone. That is, he was punished precisely for the train of thought - not similar to the "image of logging" those who punished. It turns out that the latter determine who and how to think.
    In general, it turns out that the majority puts pressure on the minority. As a result, that very ... democracy triumphs. And how much she is right should be judged by those - arithmetically verified - realities, that educated - not so much as uneducated, and genius - noticeably less than even very smart. Someone will agree to have appendicitis removed by the winner of the fist fight for the title of "best surgeon"? Or is it more correct that the operation should be performed by someone who really learned to be a surgeon?
    By the way, it is not visible that "cons" are put for offensive words. Rather, they are put on the suspicion of "slight rudeness" in quite loyal statements. Generous rudeness - even as he lives fully, no one treats him (either they are afraid of him, or from him, as they say, they just "drag" ...).
    1. 0
      24 October 2014 00: 08
      And the pros, it’s, put for a good joke or a funny picture))
  17. +1
    23 October 2014 08: 48
    Russianness ended in Galicia. Since the genocide a hundred years ago
  18. +2
    23 October 2014 09: 04
    Discussions are an art, without offending your opponent, to break his arguments with the logic of your reasoning. It’s much easier to knock your opponent to the floor and kick them in. But this is from a different democracy. Remember the Ukropskaya Rada and their "discussions".
  19. +1
    23 October 2014 09: 34
    Article plus for optimism.
  20. +2
    23 October 2014 15: 40
    As soon as a blue-yellow Mazepov rag was hung out on the outskirts in 1992, without taking into account the fact that this coloring was chosen by international medicine to designate Down's syndrome, it was painted on the face of this ... on banknotes ... Even then I understood that everything rests on time factor. If betrayal is elevated to the state level, and daunism is recognized by national politics - what else did we expect. Here the chimera also appeared.
  21. -2
    24 October 2014 00: 04
    The article did not like. Narrowly, shortsightedly, at the level of a first-year essay of the liberal arts faculty of a technical university.
    The chimera took and somehow arose itself ... It itself will fall apart ... Given that the cunning liberal can try on the signs of this chimera to Russia as well: heterogeneity of ethnic groups, cultures, religions. Leave your territory to the Urals and the Caucasus and calm down - destroy your chimera and you will have mono-ethnic happiness ..

    The author did not "notice" or did not want to notice the elephant.
    L.N. Gumilev, whose author is trying to apply the theory of ethnogenesis, was not a humanitarian. Ethnogenesis is a phenomenon due to geopolitics, climate, and economy. Gumilev first of all drew attention to the clash of three superethnic groups. First of all - to the so-called Nordic race - whose representatives themselves appointed themselves the leaders of the disaster and took on the burden of the rulers of the world. The theoretical justification for the exclusivity of the Aryans and their pi-ar began naturally by British scientists. The theory of social Darwinism, according to which the crown of social evolution are the Anglo-Saxons (some scholars ranked the Germans as well). American racism, German fascism - this is an applied application of this concept.
    Sanctions against Germany following the First World War - in fact, the Germans threw off the throne of the chosen race. It led the nation to understand that the formation of a new world order would occur without their participation.
    That is why (as I see it) the Germans, who are by nature, in general, great clever men and rationals, strangely enough, followed the primitive national doctrine, and succumbed to zombies by Hitler's slogans.

    So, the clash of super-ethnic groups: the Nordic race of the Anglo-Saxons and the Russian world. Ukraine is just in this case a battlefield, and the "Westerners" are just aborigines whom the Anglo-Saxons bought, as they usually did when it was necessary to take control of the territory (sepoys in India, part of the Indian tribes in America, etc. ., opposition in Libya, opposition in Syria)
    And again, a false feeling is created that everything will pass by itself: the chimera is not viable - everything will resolve, ethnic groups will be sprayed or merged into others ...
    The mistake is that the author looks at the spot with the inscription Ukraine on the globe for a very long time, convincing himself that the chimera in this spot should be resolved in it. Thus, it localizes the problem and on the example of inadequate Svidomo somehow shows the non-viability of this in our country.
    But the borders on the map are arbitrary! The boundaries of the alignment of forces lie along completely different lines (and not only in territory, but also in society). And the enemy has already crossed the border (both on the territory and in society).
  22. 0
    24 October 2014 12: 16
    Ukrainians wanted to rename Russia to Muscovy, in return they can be renamed to Bandera.
    PS: just kidding ofk :)
  23. 0
    24 October 2014 15: 45
    chimeras do not live long. And this means that the torment of people in her field of influence will be short-lived. Chimeric ethnic groups usually disintegrate, after which they either die out or enter into more viable and creative ethnic groups.

    So it is, all attempts to create the state "Ukraine" failed, after the bloody chaos a stillborn parody of the state arose, based on betrayal and Russophobia.
    Every time, as the next "Ukraine" broke away from Russia, in it, like worms in a corpse, maniacs-murderers, traitors, sadistic executioners, bandits, robbers, sahaidachnye, Vygovskie, doroshenkas, Mazepa, Petliura, Bandera, Yushchenko began to breed, Tymoshenko, Yaroshi, Tyagniboki, Klitschko, Mikhnyuki, Poroshenko and other vile abomination.