Platform "Armata" can serve as the basis for creating a new "land destroyer"

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About three decades ago, a mine-layer GMM-3 entered the Soviet army. The machine is proven and reliable, but against the background of advanced military technology - outdated. It is possible that the new barriers will eventually be replaced with machines made on the basis of the Armat heavy unified platform. About this agency writes Messenger of Mordovia.

Platform "Armata" can serve as the basis for creating a new "land destroyer"


Help agency: “GMZ-3 weighs 28,5 tons. It can take on board the 208 mines, which, when mined at a predetermined interval, are fed to the trigger conveyor and fall into the groove created by a special plow located in the rear of the machine. Mining speed when setting mines to the surface can reach up to 16 km / h, while masking with soil up to 6 km / h. Maximum speed on the highway 60 km / h. Power reserve up to 500 km. The machine is armed with a PKN 7,62-mm machine gun with 1000 rounds of ammunition. "



The disadvantage of GMZ-3 military experts consider it a fairly easy booking. In addition, modern technologies already allow the use of remote mining method.

According to the publication, publications appeared on the electronic media that on the basis of the Armata platform, in addition to the main tank, heavy infantry fighting vehicles and repair and recovery vehicles, will be created and other equipment, in particular - a universal mine layer (UMP-A) of the new generation. Just these machines will be equipped with remote mining tools integrated into automated tactical management systems. If necessary, these "land destroyers" in a matter of minutes will cover the direction in which enemy equipment may appear. This circumstance, according to the author of the article, "should significantly complicate the actions of any aggressor."
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  1. +31
    9 October 2014 16: 07
    let's first look at the tank
    and then we’ll grind the bones to the barrage
    current for the trap is probably a little expensive platform.
    1. +12
      9 October 2014 16: 13
      Yes, all right, I would like to look at the tank first! I worked at the Uralvagonzavod 9 years ago already then past our t-95 workshop and drove to the landfill ..... the couple still haven’t shown it to the public!?!?
      1. +3
        9 October 2014 16: 20
        Quote: jaguar
        let's first look at the tank

        I heard that at the Victory Parade next year they will show.
        Who can confirm?
        1. +5
          9 October 2014 16: 25
          The king will say, they will show!
          1. +4
            9 October 2014 16: 51
            Quote: pomegranate
            The king will say, they will show!

            I hope the gracious Tsar sovereign and the grand duke of all Russia have mercy on us to give their orphans a broadcast. Having Thy name in your sight, behold miraculously action.
      2. +6
        9 October 2014 16: 21
        Quote: jaguar
        Yes, all right, I would like to look at the tank first! I worked at the Uralvagonzavod 9 years ago already then past our t-95 workshop and drove to the landfill ..... the couple still haven’t shown it to the public!?!?

        When I served in the army, they brought t-95 to our training ground, they said that it would be declassified and shown to everyone in 2009, but they didn’t show anything.
        1. +4
          9 October 2014 16: 26
          Quote: Fregate
          When I served in the army, they brought t-95 to our training ground, they said that it would be declassified and shown to everyone in 2009, but they didn’t show anything.

          Well, do not forget who in 2009 was the Minister of Defense, as well as the hysteria that began that Russian equipment was bullshit, so we will buy everything over the hill.
        2. 0
          9 October 2014 17: 23
          This project (T-95) was closed.
      3. +3
        9 October 2014 16: 47
        Well, I also work at UVZ. Once I saw Armata when she was driving to the training ground. One insult - the tower was covered with tarpaulin.
    2. +4
      9 October 2014 16: 26
      Quite right, we have not seen the tank yet, and the protector has already gathered. Yes, and I doubt that the tank platform is suitable for minzag. Honestly speaking with a fool, I almost thought that in the photo platform of Almaty I think something was something dense, and when I opened the news I realized that there was a minzag in the photo. :)))
    3. 0
      9 October 2014 16: 51
      But this is already much better than the PMZ (trailed mine-layer), where the squadron’s squad turned out to be simply suicide bombers in a combat situation.
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    5. +1
      9 October 2014 17: 17
      Judging by the 3D videos on the net, this is really a new platform and probably reliable. I don’t know what the engine will be there, but the chassis is really impressive, although the torsion bars are present. As I understand it, this chassis will withstand enormous weight, and the wear resistance of both the chassis itself and the tracks will be increased significantly (the main scourge of tracked vehicles!) . We'll wait and see while the Russians feed us with promises, hints and swelling of grandmothers into a project in which the most persistent patriots began to doubt.
      1. 0
        9 October 2014 17: 28
        Yes, you are well respected in the photo minzag GMZ-3 with as old as the world of running. Hodovka was made for self-propelled guns of the 50s which, in my opinion, did not go into series, but served as a chassis for many self-propelled guns and mortars ..
      2. 0
        9 October 2014 20: 48
        About options dvigla infa is. eg:
        http://topwar.ru/7491-dvigatel-blizhayshego-buduschego.html
        but I haven’t heard about the chassis, but I think that nothing is better and simpler than torsion bars.
  2. ISKANDER25
    +5
    9 October 2014 16: 08
    Hello! Why do they want to do so many things on the ARMATA platform based on it? EXPLAIN! THANKS! hi
    1. +3
      9 October 2014 16: 14
      Quote: ISKANDER25
      Hello! Why do they want to do so many things on the ARMATA platform based on it? EXPLAIN! THANKS! hi

      Because the previous platforms are already morally and physically outdated and the ear needs to be replaced in the foreseeable future.
      1. typhoon7
        +8
        9 October 2014 16: 38
        Everything is relative. According to the military, in the Russian Armed Forces will be delivered 11000 units of armored vehicles. Unfortunately, they praised the T-72B-3 so much that the idea involuntarily crept in that it would be the main unit in the tanks for a long time. ARMATA will be delivered 1000-1200 to all of Russia. Siluanov generally began to look at the military budget, which leads to appropriate thoughts. The opinion of an amateur, industry should now be on a military track, the west is not embarrassed to encircle us. But we have so many owners and shareholders in the military-industrial complex that GDP will not be easy to do, but it will be necessary, the equipment will be much cheaper, and the quality can be monitored.
        1. +5
          9 October 2014 17: 10
          Quote: typhoon7
          they praised the T-72B-3 so much

          ??
          Ivan, like B3, only the stools with Makarkin were praised ...
          Tankers are more critical.

          Quote: typhoon7
          involuntarily crept in the idea that for a long time he will be the main unit in the tanks.

          Yes. Everything goes to that ...
          Eheh.
          ........................................

          According to the article - Armata for that and PLATFORM, so that on its basis to do the entire line of heavy armored vehicles. And therein lies the grave seriousness of the problem.
          Unification is a good thing.
          But little is believed that it is possible to make an entire line of armored vehicles on one standard.
          Armata options with front and rear MTO are desired least. Those. TWO sub-platforms with maximum unification.
          1. +1
            9 October 2014 18: 48
            So it is, as you wish.
            1. +3
              9 October 2014 19: 30
              Quote: uwzek
              So it is, as you wish.

              Good day, Andrei Ivanovich.

              That would be great.
              Too different tasks for heavy armored vehicles:
              Tank, TBTR, self-propelled guns - each has its own requirements, and they are not entirely compatible.
              And the military engineers themselves will damn leg break from the conditions of the particular placement of equipment - the same TCP, IMR, BAT well, not at all friends.
              I really hope that all this will be taken into account, otherwise the very phrase "platform" will lose its meaning as unification.

              I'm not a tank builder, so I wrote simply and routinely, I apologize for the verbal flaws in engineering.
    2. +3
      9 October 2014 16: 17
      Just unification. One modern heavy platform for all-purpose vehicles in such a "weight category"
    3. +6
      9 October 2014 16: 24
      Quote: ISKANDER25
      Hello! Why do they want to do so many things on the ARMATA platform based on it? EXPLAIN! THANKS! hi

      "Armata" is a new heavy tracked platform. So the army men want to shove as much combat and auxiliary equipment on it as possible in order to do away with the diversity of the chassis. And now there is a full zoo in the army with tracked chassis. What is not there - motorbikes, T-55, SU-100P, BMP, T-64, T-72, special chassis such as Object 355, etc.
      1. ISKANDER25
        +2
        9 October 2014 16: 28
        Thanks Alexey! hi
    4. +2
      9 October 2014 16: 26
      If you carefully read it, you can reach it yourself; the main word is unified. The same can be addressed to the comment above: the more different equipment wakes up on one platform, the cheaper the cost of the platform wakes up. Yes, and in the army it is easier to service the equipment produced on one platform.
      1. +1
        9 October 2014 17: 13
        But isn’t it too greasy to push a new engine on all platforms? Or, as I understand it, the good old turbocharged V-2 that will go with the BT-7 will go for auxiliary ones.
  3. +3
    9 October 2014 16: 12
    We have not yet seen the platform itself, but have already done so much on its base.
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    2. 0
      10 October 2014 00: 38
      This is the platform of the new "Armata".
    3. 0
      10 October 2014 01: 57
      "Armata"
  4. +25
    9 October 2014 16: 14
    Armata - the hero of future jokes)) Damn, I didn’t put the kind right, but oh well, shkololo still does not understand laughing
    1. ISKANDER25
      +2
      9 October 2014 16: 29
      Hello Maxim! Image OFF +! SMILE! laughing
  5. +6
    9 October 2014 16: 15
    Can it be used for planting potatoes?
    1. +12
      9 October 2014 16: 42
      For planting and digging potatoes in the old way! laughing
  6. Alexander
    +4
    9 October 2014 16: 16
    Quote: ISKANDER25
    Hello! Why do they want to do so many things on the ARMATA platform based on it? EXPLAIN! THANKS! hi

    Seriously so lazy to read about the Armata platform on the Internet? This is a single booking platform with a new engine. Do you think it will be easier for the troops to service and repair equipment with one engine and the same chassis or with different ones? Here is the answer to why.
    1. ISKANDER25
      +2
      9 October 2014 16: 26
      Hello Alexander! There is no laziness and the technical plan agrees. Why then such an advertisement? I think it is necessary to keep secret as before! THANKS hi
  7. Viktor Kudinov
    +1
    9 October 2014 16: 22
    Stuffing land with mines in a short time and covering up the direction is good. But can he, like a combine harvester, just as quickly collect the same mines when we decide to attack in this place ???
    1. +2
      9 October 2014 16: 25
      The most valuable prey was the map of minefields found in Freetown harbor and surrounding areas, found on Agnit, indicating safe passages.

      From my bookmarks wink
  8. +4
    9 October 2014 16: 27
    Quote: alexandr
    Seriously so lazy to read about the Armata platform on the Internet? This is a single booking platform with a new engine. Do you think it will be easier for the troops to service and repair equipment with one engine and the same chassis or with different ones? Here is the answer to why.

    And another important factor - the larger the series, the lower the price of the product! “More Armats are good and different” wink
    1. +1
      9 October 2014 16: 31
      May God only allow Armata to live up to our expectations !!
  9. +1
    9 October 2014 16: 30
    Can’t the demining officer also easily clear the strip of the required width?
    1. 0
      9 October 2014 16: 44
      You can’t just mine with a contact fuse at 1000m and non-contact at 2000m it is possible to land or to the surface.
  10. +1
    9 October 2014 16: 38
    Conversations are underway, articles are being written, such as advertising is already available. There will be a finished product then you can discuss it. All the same, our Wishlist (wishes) are not accepted. By the way, it's a pity ..
  11. +1
    9 October 2014 16: 39
    All that is connected with Armata is already slightly annoying, show the device, people were waiting, and where did the Mechanic go? how are things going there?
    1. +2
      9 October 2014 17: 10
      He knew too much. About Armata.
    2. +3
      9 October 2014 17: 15
      Quote: Imperial
      and where did the mechanic go?

      Pavel, ahem ...
      Zhenya works ... WORKS.
      Good luck to him.
      wink
      1. +2
        9 October 2014 19: 06
        Glad to hear that ! that he’s alive, healthy and working, and this is the main thing., but maybe even ... uh, well, at least half the eyes with a crack? impossible, I understand, Good luck to Eugene, we are waiting!
  12. +4
    9 October 2014 16: 41
    “Give Armada Armat” - Hurray, comrade! laughing
  13. +1
    9 October 2014 16: 48
    Can you look at the tank first? winked
  14. +6
    9 October 2014 16: 52
    I think this is the real look of Almaty
    1. +1
      9 October 2014 18: 13
      According to the photo of Armata, a caliber 140 gun
  15. Rubmolot
    +2
    9 October 2014 16: 54
    The next drawback of the GMZ-3 military experts of my level consider the absence of a trunk for the sports bags of fighters - punishers.
    APU XXI. centuries confirm the ever-increasing requirements for the design of modern armored vehicles.
    1. +2
      9 October 2014 18: 03
      Military experts just crap. Because they don’t know how and why they use mines. It is enough for them and ballistic reservation.
  16. +1
    9 October 2014 17: 07
    A single unified platform is already conceptually good, if, of course, the "platform" is without flaws.
  17. +4
    9 October 2014 17: 09
    I don’t understand one thing. Why shove a single platform everywhere. At our repair shops and repair factories in bulk in old tank platforms. Let them rot further?
    1. +2
      9 October 2014 17: 30
      That's it, why is the t-72 platform bad?
    2. +1
      9 October 2014 17: 37
      Quote: PROXOR
      I don’t understand one thing. Why shove a single platform everywhere. At our repair shops and repair factories in bulk in old tank platforms. Let them rot further?

      Listen, we still have many Mosin rifles at our bases since the 1 World War II. Let them rot further?
      And also the wheelbarrows of Old Man Makhno also in bulk. Also let them rot?
      1. +4
        9 October 2014 17: 59
        Quote: Tor Hummer
        Listen, we still have many Mosin rifles at our bases since the 1 World War II. Let them rot further?
        And also the wheelbarrows of Old Man Makhno also in bulk. Also let them rot?

        You don’t confuse bras with cowards here. The Mosin and Tachanka rifles are one thing and the T-72 tank platform is a completely different thing. This platform is one of the most common and reliable. Even if we replace all auxiliary equipment with a single T-72 platform, then we will still have a NEFIGEN stock of these platforms. In the meantime, it’s about to come to auxiliary equipment on the Almaty platform that it will take ten years until the Russian Armed Forces are saturated with tanks and self-propelled guns of the Coalition. So your humor is considered from a short-lived mind.
        1. 0
          9 October 2014 19: 39
          Quote: PROXOR
          You don’t confuse bras with cowards here. The Mosin and Tachanka rifle is one thing and the T-72 tank platform is a completely different thing. This platform is one of the most common and reliable.

          In order to make something good and modern on the T 72 platform, you need to swell into this craft as a new tank. And even on the junk that has rotted in the warehouse for the last 30-40 years, you generally need to swell it like on an 2 tank. It’s easier to build a new one and better.
          Quote: PROXOR
          So your humor is considered from a short-lived mind.

          Consider further.
          1. typhoon7
            0
            9 October 2014 21: 44
            T-90-SM, based on the T-72 created, the platform itself is one of the most successful in the world, the only warring one in the world, the issue of modernization, the T-72B-3, is certainly an insult, not a tank, I agree with this.
            1. 0
              9 October 2014 21: 50
              Quote: typhoon7
              T-72B-3, this is of course an insult, not a tank, I agree with this.

              Ivan, B3 is a normal tank.)))
              It's just that the modernization of the T-72B in the form of "B3" is an insult to the tankers ... who were waiting for a normal modernization ... over 20 years. And did not wait.
              Something like that.
              drinks
          2. +1
            9 October 2014 23: 31
            In order to make something good and modern on the T 72 platform, you need to swell this craft like a new tank. And already on the junk that has rotted in the warehouse for the last 30-40 years, it is generally necessary to swell as 2 tanks.
            you tell the Jews
      2. +1
        9 October 2014 23: 23
        Listen, we still have many Mosin rifles at our bases since the 1 World War II. Let them rot further?
        With a good host .... you can attach and mosquitoes!
  18. Idolum
    +1
    9 October 2014 17: 29
    Damn at the very drooling start WHEN I see ????????
  19. +2
    9 October 2014 19: 07
    Quote: nfoma80
    Yes, you are well respected in the photo minzag GMZ-3 with as old as the world of running. Hodovka was made for self-propelled guns of the 50s which, in my opinion, did not go into series, but served as a chassis for many self-propelled guns and mortars ..

    Come on, don't go ... This is the platform on which the 152-mm 2S3 "Akatsia" self-propelled guns, the 152-mm 2S5 "Hyacinth" self-propelled guns, the "Tulip" 240mm self-propelled mortar, the "Krug" air defense missile system, etc. are developed, produced and are in service .d.
  20. IGS
    +1
    9 October 2014 20: 01
    Who can enlighten? "Armata" is a new generation machine, which implies new tactics of application, control, interaction, technology in the end. Are minzags on the principle of the 50s to such?