Stories from Olesya Elderberry: “Russ is joy and drink”

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Alcoholic chronicles. The topic of booze appeared in our stories already on the first pages of the Tale of Bygone Years. And since then does not dry out on sheets of books and protocols.

Stories from Olesya Elderberry: “Russ is joy and drink”


“Rus' joy is piti” - this phrase from Prince Vladimir from the chronicle became winged. She is remembered even by those who read nothing at all, except for the labels on the bottles. So I see how it was. Prince Vladimir listens to the boring debate of the mullah, the rabbi and the priest about the faith, begins to fall asleep from the promises of posthumous paradise pleasures, and suddenly it is overshadowed by sudden illumination. The prince takes the cup in his hand. Claw your hands The vigorous sound of a gurgling liquid in the throat, as in a drain. Savory quack. Good! No paradise is needed. Especially since paradise can not be repeated, and the glass can be.


Get drunk and forget. Same way out. But coming out of this state, you still come back to reality.


But what did our ancestors drink during the time of Vladimir? That question is more important Hamlet! As you know, the most famous Russian drink is vodka. In Ukrainian - gorilka. But I will tell you right away: vodka is not a Russian invention. And not Ukrainian. And, perhaps, Prince Vladimir would have simply ripped apart those who first brought this hellish invention to Russia. After all, the consequences of vodka alcoholism are terrible. There is nothing fun in them. Who has seen a drunken woman with a blue face (and who has not seen her in our area?), Or a bluish man who is not less frequently encountered, is unlikely to argue with me.

But vodka alcoholism appeared relatively recently, only when there appeared an excess of rye and wheat grains - raw materials for the production of both bread and vodka. Even 100 years ago, our ancestor faced a choice: to eat or drink? At the same time and at the same time he simply did not have enough money.

And although the tavern was common in every Ukrainian village (it was located right at the entrance to it), there was simply not enough money for constant drunkenness. The large family and the high rates of the then birth rate prove that the Ukrainians drank not so much. The alcoholic was the exception, not the rule. And the current homeless people, milling around with a bottle through the streets of Kiev, in the old village was simply impossible to imagine.

But to be precise, the first Slavic word donated to world civilization was the name of the intoxicating drink. Not "satellite". And not a "matryoshka". And “honey” is “medos”, as the Byzantine diplomat Prisk Paniansky wrote in Latin. Priscus set off in the middle of the 5th century as an ambassador to the famous Hun Attila. On the way, he met nice natives. The natives rode him in a dugout boat, offered beautiful women "for intercourse" and treated him to a wonderful drunk. A cautious Byzantine refused coitus, and he remembered the name of the drink forever. And even handed it to his descendants.

Honey is the traditional low alcohol drink of the ancient Slavs. It was prepared from the honey of wild bees by natural fermentation in a wooden tub. To speed up the fermentation and increase the volume of melt, berry juice of raspberry or lingonberry was added to honey. The finished product was obtained in about ten or fifteen years of exposure. The honey obtained in this way was called put. You understand that with this technology (sugar will appear in our area already in the XVIII century, and the distillation cube - the prototype of the moonshine apparatus - somewhere at the end of XU-th!), You will not drink much and you will not weigh down your head.

While the Slavs were few, honey for ritual winter drinking was enough for everyone. But honey needs bees. And the Slavs bred much faster than the poor bees from whom they took honey. And then someone brought from the south the news that the Greeks and Romans have long been hopped by grape wine. Gangs of Slavic bogatyrs immediately rushed to the conquest of strategically important objects - wine cellars of civilized countries. The Balkan Peninsula fell into their paws, like an overgrown bunch. All the way down to the Alps, the Slavic thirsty drinker flooded. It was our Slavic contribution to the era of the Great Migration.


Meeting with Bacchus. Who has seen a drunken woman (and who has not seen her in our area?), Knows what kind of happiness.


This event, which occurred in the 6th century AD, should be considered epochal. The ancient Slavs for the first time were divided into different groups. Moreover, the basis of their separation was the attitude to alcoholic beverages. From a single ethnic array stood out a group of South Slavic peoples. An important philosophical element of the worldview distinguishes them from the brothers who remained in the north - the South Slavs prefer dry grape wine to all other alcoholic beverages.

The fact that it was the wine that interested the Slavs in the south proves the campaign of Pope Prince Vladimir - Kiev Prince Svyatoslav to Bulgaria 400 years later. At the new historical revolution, he tried to repeat the feat of ancestors and move his capital of Russia closer to the sources of intoxicating fun. “I don’t like to sit in Kiev,” said Svyatoslav, “I want to live on the Danube. There is the middle of my land. All good things flow there. From Russia - honey, and from the Greek land - wine. "

But after the outflow of emigrants to the south in the northern forests came a temporary balance. A reduction in population has helped the bees recover. Honey again began to miss at all. Gulba went more than ever. “The Rus drink day and night,” mentioned Arab traveler Ibn Fadlan, “and sometimes they even die with cups in their hands.”

At the same time, an important improvement occurred in the technology of making honey. Ancestors noticed: if bee honey mixed with berry juice is heated on the fire, the fermentation process will go faster. Wait 10 years is no longer necessary. Boil honey to quickly, like beer, and then use it.

According to The Tale of Bygone Years, Prince Vladimir, having repulsed the Pecheneg invasion in Vasilev, ordered 300 to digest the beer: “He gathered his boyars and posadniks and elders from all cities. And Prince Vladimir celebrated here for eight days and returned to Kiev. And here again celebrated the holiday, convening an innumerable multitude of people. " An echo of this Golden Age forever remains the word "feast", which comes from "piti".

The fact that in such conditions we had to become Christians was predestined from above. Asking Muslims about their faith, Vladimir, according to the chronicles, listened for a long time and with pleasure about paradise, where 70 will be pleasurable to every beautiful maidens - “for he loved the polytour”. But as soon as it came to the prohibition of drinking, he immediately said the very textbook: “Russia is the joy of drinking — we cannot without this being.” And he immediately adopted Christianity.


Europe also slipped under the table. Painting of the Portuguese artist Jose Malloa from the life of euroalcoholics


Already in princely times, a hierarchy of alcoholic beverages was established. The common people drank beer - a low-alcohol drink brewed from grain. The top of the society preferred to put mature honey. Riding the same extravagance was considered overseas wine. He was brought from far away Greece. Peers of Prince Vladimir remained in the memory, because for Russia it was a time of victories. Golden age. Honey and wine literally flowed like a river.

Why didn't you make the wine yourself? And they did not have such an opportunity. Grapes did not grow on the territory of Kievan Rus. After all, the southern border ran just 100 kilometers south of Kiev - along the river Ros. Crimea controlled Byzantines. Odessa, Kherson, Nikolaev, Zaporozhye and Donetsk regions were inhabited by nomads - the Pechenegs and the Polovtsy. And most of Russia was occupied by the lands of Veliky Novgorod - the very northern lands. Are you here to take raw materials for wine? The first Russian wine itself appeared only in the 19th century, when vineyards were established on the Don and the famous Tsimlyansky wine was produced, and Prince Golitsyn laid the foundations of the Crimean winemaking. But for this it was necessary for Catherine II to conquer the southern steppes and the Crimea.

So it is not in vain that the monument to Catherine II was restored in Odessa. Thanks to this great woman and her no less glorious "Catherine eagles" - Potemkin and Suvorov, our people got the opportunity to drink a noble wine - dry. The contribution of the Zaporizhzhya Cossacks, who fought with the Turks in the army of the Empress, also, naturally, should not be forgotten. Victory has a lot of fathers, unlike defeat.

And somewhere in the middle between these two greatest ups of the Orthodox civilization - between Vladimir the Holy and Catherine the Great - there was the greatest fall of Russia.

Some bastards brought vodka to our lands. And they convinced us that this is our national drink.


Ancient Russia did not know vodka alcoholism. She drank put honey, beer and occasionally imported wines.


Oddly enough, the Arabs invented alcohol first. That is, the very Muslims who are forbidden to drink the Koran. The word "alcohol" is of Arabic origin. It means "spirit" or "dope." And “the subtlest essence of all things.” In general, a rich word! Arab doctor and alchemist Rabez, who worked in the famous Baghdad hospital, got something alcohol-like from the old wine in 860 year. In Russia, then, great-grandfather Vladimir ruled — legendary Prince Helga. He is Oleg.

To get alcohol, Rabezu needed a still. This device is essentially no different from the set of the young chemist. During our childhood, it was sold in specialized stores, which were also called “Young Chemist”.

The question is: why did the Arabs, who invented alcohol, not drink it - neither in its pure form, nor in a diluted one? The taboo on the use of spirits in the Arab world is associated with the incredibly hot climate of those places where Islam originated. Indeed, try to drink half a liter in the sun in the Arabian desert! Immediately okochurites!

Therefore, the Arabian discoverers of alcohol used it only as a fixer for aromas in the production of perfumes. After all, the best perfumes in the Middle Ages were produced not in Paris, but in Arabia - in the homeland of the prophet Mohammed. The expression "Arabian incense" knew all the then European ladies.

Western merchants exported this technology from the East. The word "alcohol" literally translated from Arabic to Latin. Alcohol - he is "ershiv" - also means "spirit."

But it soon became clear that if ordinary water was added to alcohol instead of incense, then this “spirit” could be launched directly inward. New drink contained terrible energy. Once in person, he acted like an atomic bomb. The legs themselves started to dance. Languages ​​untied. The blood accelerated even a severe frost.

And in the XV — XVII centuries, winter was much colder than today. It was the so-called Small Ice Age. In London, the Thames froze, in Amsterdam - the canals, and in Russia just a tooth on a tooth did not get from the cold.

And then the clever, commercially gifted western trade little people thought: why not to sell this thing to Slavs, since they like to drink so much? In 1386, the Genoese embassy brought alcohol to the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, under whose authority the western part of Kievan Rus fell. The appearance in our area of ​​"fiery water" led to a monstrous decline in morals.

It is a pleasure to read this in “Taras Bulba”, how a drunk Cossack in his trousers is lying in the middle of the road, having spread his legs. And imagine how much he needed to drink in order to lie that way - or rather, MITTLE? And who left his money drunk to the remainder? Of course, shinkar, to describe which Gogol did not find such bright colors as for the Cossack man.

In the part of Russia where the Moscow kingdom was formed, a new kind of “green serpent” was quickly taken under state control, and foreign alcohol traders were driven out into three necks. Already in the time of Ivan the Terrible, sovereign taverns existed there. Every alcoholic did not just drink, but strengthened the state budget, on which the fortress walls were renewed and stone chambers were erected.

And in Ukrainian, vodka is not without reason called a “mountain”. That is, "fire water". By the way, in Polish “mountain” is “mountain-like”. This part of Russia fell under the power of Poland. And here the vodka proved to be much hotter! Truly swept "fire and sword" in cities and villages. And also - the Jewish townships.

And it was not fun at all. Approximately, as now in the ATO zone. In Ukraine, drinking establishments - inns during the times of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth belonged mainly to the Polish gentry. It was her privilege. But the magnates and gentry themselves did not want to engage in troublesome economic activities, preferring her booze and hunting. They rented out their “license cards”. Most of these tenants came from Jewish communities who moved to Ukraine from Germany. This caused a monstrous explosion of alcohol-national contradictions in Ukraine!

Here is what the famous Jewish historian Dubnov wrote about this in his book A Brief History of the Jews: “In Poland, the landowners (gentry) were above all, and the peasant farmers were the lowest; between them, the Jews occupied a middle place, as a commercial-industrial class ... Jews often held noble estates as rentals and, thus, gained that power over the peasants, which the gentry had. Facing more often with a Jewish tenant than with a Polish pan, the Russian peasant considered the former to be the main culprit for his disasters and sought revenge. The long accumulated discontent led, finally, to the terrible uprising of the Cossacks and Russian peasants in the last year of the reign of Vladislav IV. The Cossack centurion from Chigirin, Bohdan Khmelnytsky, stood at the head of the insurgent Ukrainians. ”
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  1. +2
    8 October 2014 10: 16
    Does not work! According to conspiracy theories, the Slavs are to blame for all the troubles and sins of the Slavs: - Angles, s, Jews together and retail, Tatars with Mongols and so on, and others. Well, Ostap Bender believed that Siguranza had a hand ...
    This article is the corrupting influence of US State Department agents on Slavic drinking.
    reflected ...
    Duc, where are the "ears"? Who is to blame? Who seduced the Slavs? Who taught?
    1. Turik
      +2
      8 October 2014 11: 15
      Yes, I agree, the article is, to say the least, controversial.

      But one thing is true - not the Slavs invented vodka. And it would be better if we didn’t know her, fermented honey and wine poison the body to a much lesser extent, and in small quantities with irregular use, they are even useful.

      In addition, they also have one more implicit advantage - the characteristic smell and taste, mead and wine can be diluted with water or intoxicated beer, but the fake will still remain honey and wine. Any foreign fractions can be easily noticed by smell and characteristic taste (if we are not talking about modern food flavorings)

      Ethyl alcohol is easily replaced by Methyl alcohol, which is identical in smell to it, if you try it, you’ll be blind at least, and at least one moron in the world will be less.
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    3. predator.3
      +3
      8 October 2014 11: 42
      Quote: fan1945
      Duc, where are the "ears"? Who is to blame? Who seduced the Slavs? Who taught?

      In 1386, the Genoese embassy brought alcohol to the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, under whose authority the western part of Kievan Rus fell

      not only ambassadors, but also the so-called "guests of Sourozh", ie the merchants of Kafa and Sourozh, stashed wine alcohol called "aquavita" for purely medical purposes, and a hundred years later, under Ivan III, it went and went!
    4. +11
      8 October 2014 13: 52
      author minus! I traveled around Europe, and I will tell you that they "eat" like pigs! bullshit about our national drunkenness! ours at least stay on their feet longer. (that's why they dangle everywhere, their eyes are calloused) and the geyropeans don't knit bast with beer! by the way, we have it just when they hunt to drink sometimes! The puddles don't get off the wine at all! and don't think that they are drinking good wine there! yes, not a fig! drunk gushes cheap, the same powder as ours! so the question where the "blue" is thicker, controversial! fellow
      1. 0
        8 October 2014 17: 45
        Alcoholization in the USSR

        1. 0
          9 October 2014 07: 27
          Prince Vladimir would simply tear to pieces the one who will bring this infernal invention to Russia for the first time

      2. Alex_Popovson
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        9 October 2014 17: 44
        so the question is where the "blue" is thicker, controversial!

        Not controversial, but far-fetched, they drink everything so as not to see different problems, and just relax. Personally drank halal apricot vodka from Afghanistan.
      3. 0
        9 October 2014 17: 59
        The most drunk British and Poles.
        Further, in descending order, the Irish, Czechs, Germans ...

        The least alcoholics in the Mediterranean (although they drink regularly, but little wine, and little by little, at a meal)
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    6. +1
      9 October 2014 08: 52
      The same topic on the subject - who first invented the wheel laughing It is worth seeing the ancient medical prescriptions of the peoples of the world and you will burst out laughing. Everyone had alcohol. And in order to get drunk and no distillation cube is needed. The bourd was poured into the container and onto the fire. They sat down in a circle and inhaled the vapors laughing
  2. +13
    8 October 2014 10: 31
    This is what kind of mess in the author’s head. Glaring ignorance of the topic. The article does not even draw on the Encyclopedia of imbecile.
    1. 0
      8 October 2014 18: 02
      Quote: 505506
      This is what kind of mess in the author’s head. Glaring ignorance of the topic. The article does not even draw on the Encyclopedia of imbecile.

      that's right! Why touch the Polish history and transfer it to Russia ?! and Russia baptized Andrew the First-Called, let him go into the church and ask the minister!
  3. 0
    8 October 2014 10: 36
    In Russia, Vladimir was still ruled by the great-grandfather of Vladimir - the legendary Prince Helga. He is Oleg.

    Yeah laughing For the information of the author, the name Helga means holy, appeared in the Scandinavian countries in the 12 century. So Prince Oleg could not be Helga, because he ruled much earlier, and he was named Olga.
    I advise those who are interested in drinking in Russia to read this book.
    Pryzhov I.G. The history of taverns in Russia in connection with the history of the Russian people. M .: Heritage, 2009
    The book of I. G. Pryzhov (1827 – 85) is the only significant study of taverns and the Russian drinking industry as a whole. Talking about honey brewing and brewing, about vodka, breech and tavern, about taverns, shreds and mugs, about kissers, farmers and cocks, the author was based on many documents and on rich personal experience: a regular in Moscow drinking houses, Pryzhov noticed and highlighted what inaccessible to the understanding of the desk researcher. The book is addressed to a wide range of readers.
    1. +1
      8 October 2014 13: 16
      Elderberry in the garden ..
      Oleg could not be the great-grandfather of Vladimir.
      He is not from Rurik.
      1. +1
        8 October 2014 17: 05
        Oleg was quite great-grandfather of Vladimir, but a lot of cousins. He was not his blood relative in the male line, and therefore could not be considered Rurikovich. Most likely - the husband of great-grandmother Vladimir.
        The annals call Oleg the uncle of Prince Igor, but if he were Rurik’s brother, power would have passed to him specifically according to the canons of those times ...
        1. 0
          9 October 2014 00: 08
          Quote: uwzek
          Oleg was quite great-grandfather of Vladimir, but a lot of cousins. He was not his blood relative in the male line, and therefore could not be considered Rurikovich. Most likely - the husband of great-grandmother Vladimir.
          The annals call Oleg the uncle of Prince Igor, but if he were Rurik’s brother, power would have passed to him specifically according to the canons of those times ...

          In contagious Polish history! laughing Radzivilov Chronicle was written in Poland laughing
      2. Little Lost
        0
        9 October 2014 04: 30
        And Kyive uncle laughing
    2. politruk419
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      9 October 2014 04: 42
      Helg (Helgi, Oleg) - in the language of the peoples of northern Europe (mainly Scandinavians) meant the Sorcerer, the Prophet, the Seer. Helga (Olga) - respectively. The concept of holiness was generally deeply alien to the Scandinavians. Valor and strength were valued. Justice came down to the formula-eye for eye, tooth for tooth.
      1. 0
        10 October 2014 17: 18
        Quote: politruk419
        Helg (Helgi, Oleg) - in the language of the peoples of northern Europe (mainly Scandinavians) meant the Sorcerer, the Prophet, the Seer. Helga (Olga) - respectively. The concept of holiness was generally deeply alien to the Scandinavians. Valor and strength were valued. Justice came down to the formula-eye for eye, tooth for tooth.

        The name Helga appeared in the 12 century, no matter how you translate it.
  4. 0
    8 October 2014 10: 37
    But I’ll tell you right away: vodka is not a Russian invention. And not Ukrainian.

    The elderberry garden, and the uncle in Kiev!
    The 1982 international arbitration decision for the USSR undeniably secured the priority of creating vodka as the original Russian alcoholic beverage and the exclusive right to advertise it under this name on the world market, and recognized the main Soviet export and advertising slogan - “Only vodka from Russia is genuine Russian vodka ! " (“Only vodka from Russia is real Russian vodka!”). hi
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    2. +1
      8 October 2014 20: 03
      Quote: thinker
      The elderberry garden, and the uncle in Kiev!

      And Uncle Buzina cannot get out of Moscow. That rushing him from nostalgia right up to delirium. Or maybe thumps?
    3. 0
      9 October 2014 00: 10
      Quote: thinker
      But I’ll tell you right away: vodka is not a Russian invention. And not Ukrainian.

      The elderberry garden, and the uncle in Kiev!
      The 1982 international arbitration decision for the USSR undeniably secured the priority of creating vodka as the original Russian alcoholic beverage and the exclusive right to advertise it under this name on the world market, and recognized the main Soviet export and advertising slogan - “Only vodka from Russia is genuine Russian vodka ! " (“Only vodka from Russia is real Russian vodka!”). hi

      forgot about Mendeleev! laughing
  5. +1
    8 October 2014 10: 43
    Bullshit
  6. +7
    8 October 2014 11: 08
    Considering that all the "fables" such as "The Tale of Bygone Years" were written by the Greeks (monks of the Monks and other foreign rabble), they portray the then Slavs as real savages - dirty, half-naked, not even having strong dwellings, but living in huts, using poisoned arrows and extremely cruel: attacking any Greek city, they exterminated the entire population without exception, they did not take prisoners. “But, -the Greek writers unexpectedly add,“ the Slavs themselves do not know slavery, and if someone, accidentally survived, falls into their captive, he lives just like the Slavs themselves. " The Greeks were very surprised, because their own economy was kept at that time on slave labor, and they could not understand how people could neglect such a valuable thing as a slave!
    I think that all these "stories" should be documented to double-check, so that at the borders of Russia, then such abscesses as ukraina with their own history for Svidomo seluks do not appear!
    1. 0
      8 October 2014 17: 08
      But no, brother, no documents!
      1. 0
        9 October 2014 09: 42
        there is! our ancestors had two types of writing
  7. +4
    8 October 2014 11: 19
    “There is no people about whom so many lies, absurdities and slander have been invented, like the Russian people.

    Catherine the Great, nee German
    The rivers of Siberia are teeming with hippos. Residents of Siberia produce and sell them if they wake up after hibernation.

    Commodore R. Perry. From a report to Parliament in 1742

    Before taking up the post of Minister of Culture, Medinsky had written a series of books that exposed the wretched speculation about Russia and its people ..
    For example, on this topic, Vladimir Medinsky

    "On Russian drunkenness, laziness and cruelty." Read here http://www.litmir.net/br/?b=91587
    . from myself according to the stories of my grandmother (Voronezh province) and my wife (Krasnoyarsk Territory outback) - there was no time to drink .. Those who drank were looked at as wretched and shied away from them .. ..
    1. calocha
      +1
      8 October 2014 12: 50
      They were despised and laughed at; during the time of Peter the Great, heavy drinkers were hung around the neck of drunkards and everyone made fun of him because he could not take it off because he was chained ..
    2. 0
      8 October 2014 17: 20
      All that is true. But now we are drinking ... Incidentally, not a bit more "civilized" powers, but not much less ...
      I personally drank it, and I will drink it. I don’t see the reasons why I can’t relax a bit after work. A normal adult always realizes that he needs to do something at work tomorrow, and also in the family.
      A drunk, he will manage to revel in mineral water.
  8. predator.3
    +1
    8 October 2014 11: 34
    Faced more often with a Jewish tenant than with a Polish pan, Russian peasant considered the first to be the main culprit of his disasters and sought revenge on him. The long accumulated discontent finally led to a terrible uprising of the Cossacks and Russian peasants in the last year of the reign of Vladislav IV. At the head of the rebellious Ukrainians was a Cossack centurion from Chigirin Bogdan Khmelnytsky. ”

    And where are the Ukrainians?
  9. Vovanische
    0
    8 October 2014 12: 11
    This bald man, God forbid, is mistaken, or we are jokingly trolling, if not, then this is another bad person who crawled out not knowingly and decided to enlighten the poor. And to be honest, I’m tired of reading all these idiots who imagined themselves to be messiahs and who teach us, our history, life ...
  10. padonok.71
    0
    8 October 2014 12: 52
    It is a very controversial statement that before the Greek wine the Slavs ate alcohol-containing products decently, noble and very moderate. In general, the pre-Christian culture of drinking in Russia is very similar (if not identical) with the Scandinavian culture of 8-10 centuries. Winter feasts, rest, slaughter-skalds, everything is very similar. Even the supreme gods of the pantheons in both of them ate only wine / honey / beer. And do not say that the Slavs did not have a specialized god of wine (by the way, like the Scandinavians). They were successfully replaced by the supreme deities, Svarog and Odin, respectively. And reveling in a feast to death was not shameful, but very honorable.
    So, by the way.
    1. raven8888
      0
      9 October 2014 04: 38
      padonok.71 RU Yesterday, 12:52 PM
      ... revel in feast to death ...


      Did you drink with them?
      Until you justify YOU A BALABOL.
  11. +2
    8 October 2014 13: 03
    This article is a mirror of education in Ukraine. It’s just nonsense, I think people who are interested in this topic will have a lot of questions and laughter.
  12. 0
    8 October 2014 13: 38
    Tell the Losers - what the hell is the Nightingale in his program "Sunday evening" constantly exhibiting this Tree ??
  13. 0
    8 October 2014 14: 12
    nonsense, it would be better if the author did something else, but he didn’t rivet articles and performed in the nightingale. And then somehow it’s not serious for him. So everywhere a little grabbed
  14. 0
    8 October 2014 14: 52
    Well now it’s clear why we chose Christianity to drink alcohol))) It turns out that if the prince denied alcohol, then we would all be Muslims now!
  15. 0
    8 October 2014 15: 30
    To stop procrastinating we drank before or did not drink this past. That's what started to poison us from the end of the 80s ...
  16. 0
    8 October 2014 15: 48
    The first vodka was brought to Moscow in 1386 by the Genoese embassy.
    ------------------------
    I don't know about Elder's ancestors, but the Russian princes drank vodka not every day and not with everyone, but as a sign of unity with their squad. That's just, often these warriors were Scandinavian mercenaries. Probably their employers got them drunk so that the mercenaries forgot about the promised "salary" or before the campaign.
    I think that the first drunks in Russia were these Scandinavian mercenaries. After the drinking bouts with the Russian princes, the Vikings became extinct by the XNUMXth century .. They are no longer mentioned in history. We learned whether to make moonshine and drink at home. Cheaper and no need to spend money on the road.
    And the Finns, out of habit, and now come to St. Petersburg, but not to see the city ..
  17. postoronim V
    0
    8 October 2014 16: 25
    New story and gimmick.
  18. +1
    8 October 2014 16: 46
    Greetings to the commentators!
    Unfortunately, the author is poorly versed in the subject of the article. I mean the origin of alcohol and vodka in Russia. I advise you to read the study of the origin of vodka by William Pokhlebkin. This researcher studied the history of the emergence of vodka, on the instructions of the Soviet government for submission to the international arbitration court, during a litigation with Poland in the seventies of the 20th century for using the "vodka" brand. The research is based on historical archival materials. I think it will be useful to everyone, not excluding the author. Pokhlebkin's works are presented in online libraries, such as lib.rus.esk.
    Best regards,
    IIvanov.
  19. +1
    8 October 2014 16: 52
    Nestor wrote his writings on the baptism of Russia almost a hundred years after the baptism itself for the sake of power.
    Christianity was adopted for another reason not related to drinking.

    The third priority is factual
    “Facts do not exist - there are only interpretations.”
    Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche

    "It is much more effective to control peoples or individual strata of society, in a certain way, by processing human consciousness with the help of various ideologies, beliefs, sociological doctrines, the media. Some people write into the unconscious, for example, the teachings of Karl Marx, others - Allah Akbar, the third - Christ is risen, the fourth - live brightly, die young. ”And if it is necessary at a certain moment with the help of special methods of activating pre-laid contradictions, such as provocations, contract killings, scandalous articles, cartoons or objectively accompanying mistakes, people are pitted against each other, which from the outside may look like an accident. So, now we are witnessing attempts at a clash between historically established Islam and biblical Christianity, and this despite the fact that people understand that God, the Creator and Almighty, is one for all beings on earth, which is reflected in many world religions. consciousness of people is television, because contrary to popular belief, the media do not so much reflect the objective reality as they program it, forming people's attitudes towards certain events. Now, terrorist acts on such a scale occur only because they are immediately shown on all channels, in fact, the media in this case become information sponsors of terrorists, providing them with billions of dollars in budgets and a huge audience. "

    The second priority is chronological
    “Look back at your backs often to avoid notable mistakes in the future.”
    Kozma Prutkov

    “It is known that a person who has forgotten his history, the history of his Fatherland, is like a tree that has lost its roots. And what will happen if a whole nation forgets its history or believes in some historical myth imposed on it taking into account the interests of external hostile forces? George Orwell when He wrote: "He who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past. "Rewriting the history of a people inevitably leads to a change in its future. That is why the arrival of new power is always accompanied by a rewriting of history, but at the same time the rulers themselves do not understand how they are used in the dark. This is very clearly manifested today in the former Union republics that broke away from the USSR. Therefore, one must always remember that history never teaches anything, it only punishes for ignorance of its lessons. "
  20. +1
    8 October 2014 18: 55
    Something is bad for the author with a story: alcohol was first obtained by Italian monks in the 11 century and was used for medical purposes.
    I don’t know how in other cities, but in ours I haven’t seen anything drunk in Drybodan for a long time. Singing drunkenness in Russia is from the field of mythology.
    For a long time I have not taken this Elderberry seriously.
  21. +2
    8 October 2014 22: 04
    Drink vodka correctly, they can only in the North. It is necessary to take the boy, with frost, and pour a hundred grams into it. At the same time, you can’t undress and rub it, just put it in a chill at the entrance, it will take about twenty minutes, then another hundred grams.
    Now, how to drink vodka is wrong.
    You drag your feet from work, if not in the office, but in the field and physical activity, getting up early tomorrow, one hundred grams and into the horizon.
    Do you have a day off. You agree with your wife, buy meat, but you cut pigs, boranes and eggs are not in the economy, pickle, call friends, fry kebabs, pour vodka, drink immensely. This is not right, but tasty. If you can’t, but really, then you can.
    And one more rule, do not teach me how to live, I myself will teach someone you want.
  22. +3
    8 October 2014 22: 07
    Mead has stood for 10-15 years ... utter nonsense. This product has always been very fast fermented.
    A week or two and swipes Slavs ready!
    Himself set, although very expensive. And those who were in Veliky Novgorod in the Detinets restaurant probably remember the mead and its insidious effect.
    I drank three cups of 200 grams and my legs do not go, although my head thinks outright.
    1. +1
      10 October 2014 20: 43
      Quote: Lechik2000
      And those who were in Veliky Novgorod in the Detinets restaurant probably remember the mead and its insidious effect.

      Well her on. Baska hardened, and legs do not go recourse
      Riddle, damn it.
  23. 0
    8 October 2014 23: 53
    Responsibly I declare as an amateur beekeeper with 20 years of experience ..... get drunk with mead - how to do it, in the course of Buzina does not represent the destructive power of a "light" alcoholic drink wink
    And the action is inhumane to the brim! After a liter or two, legs do not go from the table, hands hold a glass, the head thinks that the body is still quite sober and ready to continue !!!!
    The result for a "beginner" is almost always unambiguous.
  24. 0
    9 October 2014 04: 06
    It was interesting to read, BUT there is no truth. I simply drove moonshine for myself ....
  25. 0
    2 November 2014 16: 39
    I saw how the Germans drink for free at home in Germany and with us - until the pig squeals, to the gel-like state of the body. So the next day, he beat, like Parkinson. And for their hard-earned dents - completely different. modestly and economically, For a little bit. Like this.