The market has done its job, the market can go

Refusal of import dependence should begin with a liberal substitution

To solve the problem of import substitution, deep changes are needed in all major areas of society - we must decide to change the ideological course and personnel policy, to go to a large-scale nationalization of strategic resources and infrastructure, in particular the retail trade system.

The problem of import substitution in our country recently has received much attention in almost all sectors of society. This is understandable, because the implementation of this installation means nothing more than a serious change in the entire economic policy of the country. This is not just a rejection of a significant part of foreign supplies. Import substitution implies a lot more - a change in economic policy in general. The statement of the task of liberating the country's economy from import dependence by the Russian president in the context of the aggravation of relations with the West and its allies that had begun was objectively necessary - maintaining the dependence of our economy on foreign supplies actually preserves the state of limitation of our economic sovereignty. And when Western countries try, by using this dependence, to dictate their will to us, imposing the line of behavior of Russia in the foreign policy and domestic policy that is advantageous to them, this already entails a partial loss of sovereignty in the political sphere.

Such a non-market forum

At the same time, as acknowledged by many leading experts in the field of economics, businessmen and managers working in the field of high-tech production, agriculture and other sectors of domestic production (with the exception of the oil and gas industry), import substitution processes are hampered by a very wide range factors. There was a situation when, on the one hand, import substitution is vital for restoring and maintaining the sovereignty of the country, and on the other hand, to solve this task, large-scale changes are needed in the very foundations of social construction - in the economy and in other spheres of the country's life. In such a situation, the problem posed becomes the subject of discussion not only for economists and production workers, but also for a wide range of specialists and experts from other fields, including politicians, experts in the field of security and military construction, ideology, culture and other areas of the spiritual sphere. Discussion of this problem occurs in various formats - from closed scientific discussions to various public forums and individual expert speeches in the media. The most interesting, of course, are such events, where a wide range of opinions of specialists from different spheres of society’s activities appears. One of these is the regularly held Moscow Economic Forum (IEF). September of this year 24 in the building of the Chamber of Commerce worked a section of this forum - “Import substitution in Russia: how to avoid distortions and realize the potential?”. The section was attended by a variety of experts and experts - from geopolitics and macroeconomists, representatives of the largest political parties in Russia to the leaders of specific enterprises and unions of producers of various products. Among them are Academician Ruslan Greenberg, Director of the Institute of Economics RAS Konstantin Babkin, President of the Industrial Union “New Commonwealth” Oksana Dmitriev, First Deputy Chairman of the State Duma Committee on Budget and Taxes Mikhail Delyagin, Director of the Institute for Globalization Problems Michael Remizov, Chairman of the Presidium of the Expert Council of the Military Industrial Commission under the Russian government Vladimir Zhirinovsky, presidential adviser Sergei Glazyev and a number of other reputable experts, lead specialists, including the author of this article, who had the honor to speak at this forum as president of the Academy of Geopolitical Problems.

“Our government finances other states, and most of all the United States, which is the main initiator of sanctions against Russia”
The speakers, despite the strict regulations (only five to eight minutes to speak), revealed almost all aspects of this multifaceted problem, showing its multiplicity and proposing a set of measures to solve it. Among the most striking are the speeches of the economist and publicist, well-known politician Yury Boldyrev “Import Substitution in the Political and State System”, Deputy Chairman of the State Duma Committee on Economic Policy, Innovative Development and Entrepreneurship Nikolai Arefyev “The resignation of the government is the key to the implementation of the policy of import substitution in Russia” and Mikhail Delyagin, who in his bright speech showed the need for radical changes in the Russian economy and domestic policy, while including staffing. Of course, the speech of Vladimir Zhirinovsky, who justified the need for the revival of a monarchy in Russia or a similar authoritarian regime as a condition for the technological breakthrough, did not go unnoticed.

Analyzing the diversity of positions and opinions expressed by the participants in this section, we can single out several key problems, without which the solution to the task of import substitution would be very difficult or even impossible. To a greater or lesser extent these questions touched on many speakers.

Say no to instant benefit

The inadmissibility of the country's growing dependence on imports, especially from competing countries that may become potential adversaries, was discussed by specialists a long time ago, literally from the very beginning of the “democratic transformations” and even before they began. These “transformations” took place under the banner of “entering the world economy”, which in practice meant the destruction of our own industry in order to free the Russian market for foreign producers. In this regard, the performance of Academician Ruslan Greenberg, who said that the concept of transition to market relations was developed at the Academy of Sciences of the USSR and suggested the gradual and carefully weighted introduction of these relations into the country's economic system for a long time — more than five years — was very indicative. However, the destruction of the USSR and the subsequent seizure of power by radical marketers who proclaimed a course for the immediate opening of their market to foreign producers (allegedly with the aim of quickly entering the world economic system) led to disastrous results for the domestic economy. The consequences of a “jump into the market” have to be eliminated today, including solving the problem of import substitution. However, ideologically, this trend has not been disavowed until now, conversations and debates continue on the topic, but do we really need it today. Therefore, the most important condition for the successful solution of the task of restoring economic sovereignty is the recognition of this concept as untenable, and the technology for its implementation in our country is criminal.

Some speakers singled out the postulate that a private owner is much more effective than a state leader as a very dangerous for the further development of the country. They indicated that under this slogan we had a massive privatization of industrial facilities. Most of the enterprises in the high-tech industry associated with basic technologies, that is, with the production of primary, basic products — various materials, microelectronics, and others — have fallen into private hands. Many of the new large owners turned out to be poor organizers and managers of the acquired production, which led to dire consequences. The destruction of key industries of our industry went under the talk of "unprofitability of production." In particular, Russia has practically lost the ability to manufacture microcircuits, especially complex ones, such as computer chips, we have big problems with the production of high-alloy steels (therefore, cars made from domestic steel quickly rust and there are problems with the production of high-durability gun guns), lost production capacity for high-temperature materials based on carbon. In conditions when the restoration of these industries is vital, it is planned to allocate big money from the budget for these purposes. It should be remembered that private owners of previously powerful and efficient state-owned enterprises have already crushed them once, turning them into various secondary facilities such as warehouses and office centers. And one of the main reasons for this is that such owners, having acquired the enterprises, could not dispose of them simply because they did not have the appropriate training for this. It was easier for them to shut down production and use the vacated areas for more understandable tasks for them, in particular for the storage of imported products. Additional financial investments to the same people will not give anything - they simply will not be able to organize the revival of such complex industries. Therefore, public investment in such a private sector is obviously ineffective. They will lead not only to an inefficient expenditure of budgetary funds, but also to an increase in social tension, which is extremely dangerous in the face of increasing external pressure on Russia. In this regard, it was noted the need for an extremely cautious approach to the further privatization of state property, especially facilities and systems of national importance. However, it was emphasized that those entrepreneurs who independently created and developed production, those who managed to preserve and develop the production capacities they got in the privatization process, should be supported.

An important conclusion can be made: to solve the problem of import substitution, a sharp turn in the ideological sphere is needed - from the domination of market approaches to a radical strengthening of the state’s role in the country's economy, right up to the transition to a mobilization type of economy. And although some, sometimes very reputable economists, oppose such a reversal, the experience of the USSR and other countries unequivocally indicates that such large-scale breakthroughs and in such short terms as we have been storyare not committed.

The economy has spoiled staffing issue

The key problem of import substitution in Russia is personnel. It was noted that the principle of recruitment, based on personal loyalty or generic ties, to restore complex industries in Russia is absolutely unacceptable. The so-called effective managers cause great damage to the development of high-tech industries due to their incompetence. The leaders of the Russian industry should have personal experience in a particular field, starting with the primary positions directly involved in the process. Only such people are able to competently organize their own production. But the ability to manipulate financial flows gives little in this regard.

As one of the most important personnel conditions for successfully solving the problem of import substitution, many speakers called the liberation of the country's power structures, especially their economic blocs, from those who favored a liberal approach to the economy. The key task is to eliminate market radicals from the Russian government. The authoritative economist Mikhail Delyagin especially emphasized the need for this step, and Nikolay Arefyev spoke directly about his report - “The resignation of the government is the key to the implementation of the policy of import substitution in Russia”. Justifying their position, supporters of such a move indicated that supporters of economic management based on the “invisible hand of the market” are not able to manage the economy in new conditions, with a sharp increase in the regulatory role of the state. As an example of the viciousness of the existing practice of the economic block of the government, the fact was cited that this year Russia's investments in foreign financial structures, in particular in the purchase of foreign securities, mainly in the US, increased by 18 percent. That is, under the conditions of growing crisis in our economy, the Russian government finances other states. And most of all the United States, which is the main initiator of sanctions against Russia.

Thus, for the implementation of the program of import substitution, radical changes in the personnel policy of our country are necessary, suggesting a transition to a qualitatively different principle of selection of personnel for nomination. In essence, this means a transition to a smooth replacement of most of the current management elite, including its top echelons.

Factories - workers, not managers

Undoubtedly, the revival of complex high-tech industries will require the coordination of efforts of all sectors of the Russian economy, above all strategic ones. This is necessary to build technological chains that include a large number of related enterprises covering a large part of the country's regions. Without centralization of management of this process, its implementation will require an unacceptable amount of time or even become impossible. At the same time, often commercial interests of maximizing profits in the shortest possible time come into conflict with the need to invest large amounts of money in the development of industries with long payback periods. At the same time, as a rule, large owners export capital abroad. There was no objection to the recognition of the fact that oligarchs are one of the main sources of instability in the country, supporting the liberal opposition. Having invested huge funds in foreign banks and foreign assets, they turned out to be highly dependent on these states, primarily on the US and the EU. Now, many of them, under the threat of losing foreign property, are forced to pursue economic policy in Russia to the detriment of its objective interests, but beneficial to other states. Accordingly, many of them are implicit, and some openly support destructive forces in the country, the notorious “fifth column” of Western liberals. Therefore, it is fair to say that the most important condition for successful import substitution in Russia is the universal nationalization of strategic industries.

Nikolay Arefyev pointed out that today our retail network is more than 90 percent owned or controlled by foreign capital. Therefore, in fact, our manufacturer, especially agricultural products, does not have access to retail chains, where domestic goods are replaced with imported, often more expensive and less quality ones. In this regard, he called nationalization of retail chains another important condition for the implementation of the import substitution program.

The listed areas, of course, do not cover all the necessary tools to solve a multifaceted problem. We can not neglect other mechanisms of economic regulation, including radical changes in financial policy. That is, for the solution of the task of import substitution, the measures taken today, mainly economic ones, without affecting the foundations of the existing socio-economic system, are not enough. Large-scale, complex, systemic changes in most spheres of social life are needed. In fact, it is necessary to decide on a transition to a more perfect, rather than a market, system of economic relations in the country.

Comments

[Abbra]

By the way, a clever article. These would be thoughts and the government in the brain. This most liberal approach to the economy of Russia specifically showed that we have not only special tasks, but there must also be special ways to solve them.

[kostik1301]

Until our SHIT GOVERNMENT, headed by the commander-in-chief, will not shoot the shift - and so the GDP to the whole world will shout "the results of privatization WILL NOT be revised"

[subbtin.725]

Quote: kostik1301

Until our SHRIDGE, led by the commander in chief, doesn’t shoot the shift

Maybe enough about raster lists? GDP then what does it have to do with? Put a minus.

[saag]

Quote: subbtin.725

What does GDP have to do with it?

Touches such a question, of course it has nothing to do with it, so a figure for pictures on t-shirts :-)

[BEGGAR]

super!!!

Quote: saag

Quote: subbtin.725

What does GDP have to do with it?

Touches such a question, of course it has nothing to do with it, so a figure for pictures on t-shirts :-)

when it comes to everyone who destroys our people

[Lich]

but the Ukrainian market is only growing

[nils]

Today, article "Ay yes Ramzan! ..", Quote "Ossetians":
Thanks to Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, they began to reckon with us and respect (not as much as before but progress on the face). The people in Russia began to unite, gradually V.V. Putin regains the confidence of the people.
Would everyone in the regions like V.V. Putin - it would be gorgeous.
Kadyrov well done !!!
And there are a lot of such "loyal putints".

BUT, 04.10 article "A conspiracy is being prepared against Putin, we are witnessing a liberal response to the Russian Spring", Brilliant commentary from Victoria 1980

I do not believe in the crystal purity, honesty and patriotism of Putin! If "he wanted to, but he was not given" as Dugin tries to convey, then we would see the creation and colossal support of patriotic forces in Russia. We would have seen attempts to create a strong, deep, sustainable political movement, organized and supported by Putin himself and his supporters. But we see what we see. This is described in the article. Of course, all patriots should say this: they say, Putin is not to blame, "he wants to, but the evil fifth column does not give." Otherwise, the patriots will be "gagged" completely. After all, it was forbidden to show on TV Strelkov I.I. Is Putin also not to blame? Also "is he good, but all bad?"
Thank God, I’m not a politician and I can say everything I think in the comments. And I think that GDP now has one task - to sit in power. Everything! Nothing else interests him! Everyone is unhappy with him now - both liberals and patriots. He must please and not piss off both of them. In fact, Dugin is right, civilians of Donbass were sacrificed to liberals under the tacit approval of Putin,
and made patriots outcasts. And we, ordinary people are trying to foist a foul-smelling message - you will grumble against Putin - that means you want Maidan in Russia, then you are against Russia.
And I also think that Putin is, after all, a little, but ashamed. Perhaps he was threatened with reprisals against capital, perhaps with personal reprisals, perhaps they threatened to ruin the lives of his daughters.
But everything that can be done against Russia has been successfully implemented by "Western partners". Absolutely everything! Russians are being killed by the thousands, and Russia only comments. All this takes place under a deafeningly joyful Sabbath of "partners". The economy has suffered colossal damage. We would have endured everything - if Russia did not allow itself to be humiliated and protected the inhabitants of Ukraine who wanted to be with Russia, would defend its interests in Ukraine in the end.
And the bleating of our authorities about the "domestic technological breakthrough" is ridiculous. Sitting on the oil needle for so many years (by the way, under the leadership of Medvedev and Putin) and now it’s right now to suddenly “make a breakthrough”?
To be capable of a breakthrough, you need to be, in a sense, "Soviet people" - ideological, capable of "rushing into embrasures." It is interesting when the country's leadership cowardly watches as the country and people are "kicked" and the heroes (Strelkov) are pushed into the background to show - WE HAVE ONE HERO - GDP - who will make the "breakthrough"?
Naturally, during the Crimean company, each of us was ready to bear any sanctions, any difficulties of a different country, for the common good, Or are we not Russians?
But now, after thousands of corpses of innocent people - for what sanctions? Why endure hardship? In order to keep GDP in power? Isn’t it fat, Mr. GDP?

[Ajevgenij]

I completely agree with the comment.

[Magadan]

This also confuses me, but on the other hand, patriotism cannot be created from above. All this will be props and insincere. Like the party "United Russia" or any movement like "our". Or the same Komsomol, the former leaders of which just got the most delicious pieces from the privatization and became furious "market people"

[Oldwiser]

Our Supreme Commander-in-Chief will have to make a choice: whose interests are more important to him - the "Petersburg" liberal-oligarchic clan or the state interests of the state

[Yaro001]

GDP suggested considering the issue of high-speed highways after a birthday. Looks like Yakunin was on the bottom. COUNTRY, PEOPLE were waiting for the right and courageous, but it turns out while I saw the NWF.

[Spnsr]

It’s hard to argue, but in WWII, if it weren’t for the railway, then perhaps spare parts would not have reached Moscow!
there is another point to use the money, you need to somehow introduce it into the economy, there was a program for subsidizing the automobile industry, I think many used it, and bought literally at the price of a car salon, without increasing the amount, or insignificantly, by bank interest!
a simple inflow of the NWF can accelerate inflation, and the construction of the railway, this also means jobs ...
What are your real suggestions about the NWF?

[siberalt]

For minus with koment + 100500! (although not to me) I'm not for the cons at all, but for the fact that they are being argued. For elementary culture on the forum. I ask for understanding, comrades

[kostik1301]

Your GDP, along with the pocket party of Edrosov, has just passed a law in the State Duma on the compensation of oligarchs from the budget, in detail for my and your taxes and ordinary Russians .................... ..if it doesn’t reach ........

[Yaro001]

Plus, I unsubscribed above. There is a limit and there is a lawlessness.

[DRA-88]

Yesterday a law was signed on taxation of individuals.
Now, starting in 2015, we will pay for real estate with cadastral value, that is, the tax increases at times!
Also, new taxes will be calculated from owners of vehicles from November 10, 2014!
I want to ask! Does our state have enough money to sell resources whose extraction has already surpassed Soviet indicators?
Why, with non-European salaries, should we pay European prices for electricity and other types of energy carriers (and this is in the mining country)?
Why do we have to pay for the apartment that my parents gave to us back in the USSR, like for a new building in Prague?
Maybe enough to steal and eat three throats?
Maybe enough to fool the people with nonsense about changes in the global conjuncture? Leave these tales for your offspring in London, they no longer roll !!!
Similar questions I personally typed into 10 pages of this format !!!

[Cenij150814]

Quote: DRA-88

Yesterday, the law on taxation of individuals was signed ......

Comrade, this is not scary, but the fact that the people FSUs. It feels like you are in the "matrix" it just depresses morally.

[DRA-88]

Quote: Cenij150814

Comrade, this is not scary, but the fact that the people FSUs., The feeling that you are in the "matrix" is simply depressed morally.

I agree with you and I'm already talking about the "sad" (you understand me) situation for the fourth life on this site! (Three penal battalions are already too much )
You see, the people are zombified !!! (and the manipulation of public opinion is intensifying).
And then I wrote about taxes so that people understand how bad things are in this kingdom.
PS I remember you. Thank you for your active position and concern for the fate of the homeland!
let's sing!

[Cenij150814]

Quote: DRA-88

Thank you for your active position and indifference to the fate of the homeland!
let's sing!

Yes, not at all, I consider it my personal duty, in the sense of my head to think and not only about myself !, let's sing !!

[DRA-88]

Quote: Cenij150814

in the sense of thinking with your head and not only about yourself!

I have for you some good, friendly advice ... if that quietly knock on the PM we will not interfere with the people to share their experiences

[Little Lost]

I explain my minus.

[quote = DRA-88] Yesterday a law was signed on the taxation of individuals.
Now, starting in 2015, we will pay for real estate with cadastral value, that is, the tax increases at times!

Well, no slogans without facts, please.
This tax is primarily aimed at excess, excess housing on the number of residents. Those. a certain standard (I don’t remember exactly, something about 10 square meters per person) is not taxed at all. And the rest through regional factors. And what these recounts will be - these are questions for the local authorities. On the ground, there is always the opportunity to ask - why, in fact? Consequently, the greatest tax burden will be borne by citizens who have earned overwork of 100-200 sq. M / elite housing in the most attractive for living areas of our Immense.
Sincerely, somehow

[Lich]

You plus

But the majority does not care about the essence of the matter, if only to shout at the forums, pick up the pluses, as if everyone would feel better off from their commentary.
How to do something for the country, for the people, and even for themselves

"uh, no, I'm not a president, I'm nicho nismagu. I am current to abase power to a magician with a beer, well, abasrat inagda with a comment"

[Penzyac]

Quote: kostik1301

... GDP will shout to the whole world "the results of privatization WILL NOT be revised"

No need to juggle, he didn’t say that!
He only said that there would not be a sweeping, massive revision of privatization, only through the courts, and this is a big difference. You can’t ruin everything with Chokh, otherwise there will be a mess.
By the way, the article, including about this, re-read it again carefully.

[saag]

Quote: PENZYAC

No need to juggle, he didn’t say that!

Last time at the State Council

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: PENZYAC

only through court

Serdyukov too judgedand Vasilyeva .... It would be better if she was torn live, the country would have understood that the bribe-takers e..ut, and Vasilyeva got high.

[Oldwiser]

We have prosecuted pornography under the law, and you offer this case in the format of a reality show, and even from the courtroom ...

But for courage - plus

[Bepduct]

Yes, we have legalists pornography itself!

[Oldwiser]

Are you talking about "a person who is very similar to the Attorney General" from the video with two call-girls, which was shown throughout the country on Channel One?
So that he doesn’t decide to support the Communist’s venture impeachment of Yeltsin?

[Yaro001]

The main thing is that it doesn't turn out like in a joke "I hear E-but, I turn around.

[Oldwiser]

Tax evasion is the best remedy against sleep

[wow]

You have not seen the Crap Government and Crap President!

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: yo-mine

You have not seen the Crap Government and Crap President!

Well, yes, everything is relative!

[Cenij150814]

Quote: yo-mine

You have not seen the Crap Government and Crap President!

Why didn’t you see, most likely you and I are just different sorts!

[Oldwiser]

We saw - the government of Messrs. Gaidar-Chubais-Nemtsov under the President of EBN (a.y.)

[miladiz]

I would put a plus, but there are few comments. You are at the root of all problems. The economic and financial bloc of the government approves the guarantor of the constitution. He has been rubbing his deck for 15 years, and we go around in circles: innovation, modernization, restructuring, privatization. The economy is out, and there are more and more billionaires.

[Giant thought]

More and more people are demanding the resignation of the Medvedev government, he probably wants to wait for the moment when the wave of reimbursement of the masses will demolish him in political oblivion, I would not want such a scenario, but if a person does not understand ...

[Cenij150814]

Quote: Thought Giant

? GDP then what?

What blasphemer you are kostik1301, you would have to take communion on the holy things, and remember Vladimir Vladimirovich PUTIN, nothing to do with

[kostik1301]

? GDP then what?
Why GDP doesn’t want to pass laws:
progressive taxation scale
- UN article on corruption
-When will they put Serdyukov, Chubais
and much more "... we have not 37-year ...." GDP.

[Oldwiser]

The Federal Tax Service itself is most opposed to the progressive scale - it is more difficult to count by complex formulas, and there all automation is Excel files.
Has the UN adopted some kind of resolution on corruption? There was a resolution about "counteracting the financing of international terrorism" (like "down with offshore companies"), but corruption is, as they say, "the sovereign problem of each country."
When the "competent" bodies have specific questions to the aforementioned gentlemen, and these gentlemen cannot answer them, then they will be "imprisoned", and the restoration of the 37th year, as such, is not required

[atalef]

Quote: Thought Giant

More and more people demand the resignation of the Medvedev government

And something to change? The whole economy is built on oil, and imports for these grandmas

Quote: Thought Giant

he probably wants to wait for the moment when the wave of reimbursement of the masses will take him to political nonexistence,

You probably forgot about the tandem?
Or are still convinced that Medvedev is an independent figure

Quote: Thought Giant

I would not want such a scenario, but if a person does not understand ...

Who will explain to him?

[Cenij150814]

Quote: atalef

Quote: Thought Giant

More and more people demand the resignation of the Medvedev government

And something to change? The whole economy is built on oil, and imports for these grandmas

You’ve translated from Hebrew through Google, you don’t understand what the connection is!

[atalef]

Quote: Cenij150814

Did you translate from Hebrew via Google, Nicherta

Well, with logic, you are apparently weak. I'm asking . what will change . if Medvedev is removed. The oil and gas economy is built --- there is nothing to manage. Neither Medvedev sets prices.

[Cenij150814]

Quote: atalef

Well, with logic, you are apparently weak. I'm asking . what will change . if Medvedev is removed. The oil and gas economy is built --- there is nothing to manage. Neither Medvedev sets prices.

Comrade Jew, let's leave my logic alone, just answer me without your national stuff, where you looked at the connection between the desire of the majority of the people, to remove the Medvedev government and oil and gas prices, I advise you to familiarize yourself with the reasons, the wishes of the people, before writing on this topic!

[atalef]

Quote: Cenij150814

Comrade jew

I'm not your friend

Quote: Cenij150814

let's leave my logic alone

She was left alone and even lost

Quote: Cenij150814

examined the connection between the desire of the majority of the people to remove Medvedev’s government and oil and gas prices,

I repeat again, for those who are in the tank,
I’m saying that even if you remove Medvedev, nothing will change because the economy is built on oil and gas - is it clear or not?
And desire - well, wish

Quote: Cenij150814

I advise you to get acquainted with the reasons, the desires of the people,

Well, what are the reasons for the desire of the people?
Are you sure. what is this desire? Did you conduct a survey?

[Cenij150814]

1) Well, what you I'm not a friend, originally meant for jew cannot be my friend for the future. 2)I’m saying that even if you remove Medvedev, nothing will change because the economy is built on oil and gas - is it clear or not? And desire - well, wish Hiking circumcision affects the perception of the meaning of the text! 3)Well, what are the reasons for the desire of the people? what are you asking me as if I'm talking about israelэpolitical political situation and not vice versa, you need to look and find! 4)Well, what are the reasons for the desire of the people? Are you sure. what is this desire? Did you conduct a survey? I asked you without national stuff!

[Oldwiser]

paraphrasing the classics a bit:
I have a desire to have Marilyn Monroe, but I have no opportunity;
I have the opportunity to have a goat, but I have no desire;
So let’s drink so that our desires do not diverge from our capabilities!

[Yaro001]

That's right, it's a troll.

[Cenij150814]

Quote: Yaro001

That's right, it's a troll.

What burned out?

[Yaro001]

Or maybe you are a Jew. Everything is clearly written.

[Cenij150814]

Quote: Yaro001

Or maybe you are a Jew. Everything is clearly written.

What are you talking about ?, more specifically, what is written, where is it written?

[andj61]

Alexander, you are all about the same thing! Try it, google the structure of Russian exports for 2013 and see your statement

Quote: atalef

The whole economy is built on oil, and imports for these grandmas

to put it mildly, not very rolling.
Russia is increasingly exporting finished products. But the export of raw materials will not be refused. If Israel does not have oil in industrial quantities for export (yet?), Then, naturally, it cannot export it. And if it appears, yes, on the shelf, and where it can be taken from the Turkish, CPR, Lebanese or Syrian economic zones, what, do you think Israel will not extract oil for export, so that others do not? I doubt it very much!
I can’t say anything about the tandem, but, in my opinion, he has already outlived himself. And the Medvedev government, as it is now, as I think, is living out its last months. True, I’m not sure that I am a good nostradamus.

[atalef]

Quote: andj61

Alexander, you are all about the same thing! Try it, google the structure of Russian exports for 2013 and see your statement
Quote: atalef
The whole economy is built on oil, and imports for these grandmas

C'mon, chesslovo, as soon as oil begins to fall in price. right away, talk begins about budget cuts, pension freezing and the crisis, and of course. Well, just solid high technology is exported.

Quote: andj61

Russia is increasingly exporting finished products.

Do not play numbers. You can sell finished products. but what is the income from this income. You can sell it for 100 billion - but the profit is the ruble (as an example) - oil is the main source of budget replenishment - what can I tell tales about

Quote: andj61

And the Medvedev government, as it is now, as I think, is living out its last months. True, I’m not sure that I am a good nostradamus.

Well, Nostradamus didn’t show anything special. nevertheless - Medvedev will sit for a long time, or rather a very long time. Remember my word.

[jPilot]

I would like to believe in the word "sit", but judging by his Medvedev protege Serdyukov, someone will put him in prison.
In general, the situation in the government really corresponds to "and Vaska listens and eats"
But the people have distracted from the article, the article is a plus because the words and ideas are correctly written and all this takes place and needs to be done. The only thing I do not agree with Zhirinovsky about the monarchy. After all, it has long been noticed that outstanding parents often have children that are so-so or even a complete "antipode" ie. nature rests, and education in luxury and permissiveness makes its mark.
But the tandem has collapsed a long time ago, Medvedev thinks we will no longer see in the proscenium that it really hurts a lot of jambs.

[Civil]

Appoint King! And to transfer all into subjects, through special commissions, to introduce the nobility. To form a new elite from the noblemen devoted to the King. The rest are in a state of new industrialization and industrial breakthrough. Return the five-year plan, an article for parasitism. Prohibit foreign music, movies, books and genetics itself so that GMOs are not grown. Put a monument to Lysenko. Return Gosplan, take the best of the past country. In the army for 5 years, without cell phones. Give kirzachi and footcloths, tested over the centuries. (this is a personal opinion, not a call)

[Cenij150814]

Quote: Civil

Appoint King! And to transfer all into subjects, through special commissions, to introduce the nobility.

I thought I had a mess in my head, but it turns out I’m even wherever

[Oldwiser]

this is comrade "Civilian" rehearsing a parody of Zhirinovsky in the style of "A la Zadornov"

[saag]

Quote: Civil

appoint the king! And to transfer all into subjects, through special commissions, to introduce the nobility. To form a new elite from the noblemen devoted to the King.

Yes, yes, pillar nobles will be from United Russia :-)

[atalef]

Quote: Civil

Appoint King! And to transfer all into subjects, through special commissions, to introduce the nobility. To form a new elite from the noblemen devoted to the King.

Well, that’s already done.

Quote: Civil

. The rest are in a state of new industrialization and industrial breakthrough

That's just you in the front ranks of the builders of the five-year plan. or hope for a place in the noble corps?

Quote: Civil

Prohibit foreign music, movies, books and genetics itself so that GMOs are not grown.

McDonald's and Windu with Comp

Quote: Civil

. Return Gosplan, take the best of the past country.

Get a string bag from a closet (popularly nicknamed - niheraska)

Quote: Civil

In the army for 5 years, without cell phones. Give kirzachi and footcloths, tested over the centuries. (this is a personal opinion, not a call)

Well, why at 5, you can at 10 - as in the DPRK.

[MaxSanbl4]

"Give us tarpaulins and footcloths, proven for centuries."
Yeah, and then we’ll all transfer to the horses that have been tested for millennia, fucking cars ... And to demolish all the power plants, give candle plants all over the country! Well and further in the same spirit, long live the regression ... This is sarcasm if someone does not understand

[Spnsr]

Quote: Civil

Appoint King! And to transfer all into subjects, through special commissions, to introduce the nobility. To form a new elite from the noblemen devoted to the King. The rest are in a state of new industrialization and industrial breakthrough. Return the five-year plan, an article for parasitism. Prohibit foreign music, movies, books and genetics itself so that GMOs are not grown. Put a monument to Lysenko. Return Gosplan, take the best of the past country. In the army for 5 years, without cell phones. Give kirzachi and footcloths, tested over the centuries. (this is a personal opinion, not a call)

no, well, it’s logical, here many complain about the liberal economy, and when they offer a real and logical replacement, it turns out something like

Cenij150814 (1) SU Today, 19:12 ↑

Quote: Civil
Appoint King! And to transfer all into subjects, through special commissions, to introduce the nobility.

I thought I had a mess in my head, but it turns out I’m even wherever

this is not an indicator yet, but after days the GDP started from the inside out, it may be delayed a little, but its approach is not the same as you expect, at least in my vision!
if he teaches the aligarchs how to behave the same as Amer business behaves, then the situation will change

need to nationalize people's consciousness

[observer.ru]

and the elite of the loyal nobles what will they do at this time? while the rest in the kirsachs will be industrialized for 5 years?

[Civil]

Quote: observer.ru

and the elite of the loyal nobles what will they do at this time? while the rest in the kirsachs will be industrialized for 5 years?

Drinking coffee, yachting and driving, something else

[GSH-18]

Factories - workers, not managers

This is an old and stupid slogan, designed for a certain historical and social moment and for urya-patriots from among the working class. The result of its implementation will be the collapse of production. By the fact that the worker does not need the WHOLE factory (he does not know how to work on IT), the worker needs the MACHINE to produce products on it. Plant management is a separate science. Includes non-working skills at all. This is the organization of the working process, the purchase of raw materials for production, social guarantees for workers, the calculation and payment of salaries, taxes, payment of electricity, gas, water (accounting). Further, the organization of sales of finished products, the conclusion of supply contracts for different periods and volumes (search for buyers). Advertising. Planning and modernization of production in order to produce competitive products.
I described only the main points of the enterprise management (maybe not all, there are different productions).
I hope it is clear that the screamers shouting such provocative slogans should be driven from the factory by the workers themselves. Another thing is that everywhere we need appropriate control. The worker has a quality control department, and the manager has periodic reports at factory meetings to workers, with answers to questions! Something like that..

[Cenij150814]

Shaw you grind, it develops ossification that workers are born and not become, however, like managers and for your information, a Russian manager manager and then grabbed bourgeois words.

[DRA-88]

Quote: Cenij150814

For your information, the manager for the Russian manager, and even grabbed bourgeois words.

You +100500 !!!

[Oldwiser]

This fellow pulls out quotes from the course of a subject called OPUPP (Organization, Planning and Management of an Industrial Enterprise). And "manager" is better translated back into impudent Saki as "Controller"

[jPilot]

Dear, you are chanting complete nonsense, the slogan "factories for workers" does not mean that the turner "Uncle Vasya" is today at the machine and tomorrow he will steer the plant, but the movement from the bottom up according to the abilities and education should take place as it was in the USSR. Nowadays, enterprises, workshops, and brigades are often stupidly ruled by pull, kinship and what factors interfere and even destroy production.
And how the production organism is arranged and that it is a complex structure is already understandable, and a competent manager often appears from those who are familiar with production.

[Yaro001]

As they write "maximum repost" the state fool adopted a bill to compensate the oligarchs for their losses over the hill !!! This is in all the media, if this is so, what can be said at all, what common sense is where who and who was called from where. Put out the light, as they say.

[Cenij150814]

Quote: Yaro001

As they write "maximum repost" the state fool adopted a bill to compensate the oligarchs for their losses over the hill !!!

This law will be included in the package of measures for import substitution

[DRA-88]

Quote: Yaro001

As they write "maximum repost" the state fool adopted a bill to compensate the oligarchs for their losses over the hill !!!

And be sure that the gallery owner will sign them !!!

[Spnsr]

First you need to nationalize the consciousness of people ...

[Junior, I]

A link to this article can be posted on the president’s website.
then he will definitely hear.

[pok09]

I have no idea who is good at this, but look what I found. This is http://lc.cx/arch an information base with materials about all citizens of our state, it is completely in open form walking on the network and anyone can use it. It would seem "well, let it be, I have nothing to hide", but the most frightening thing about this is that there is a lot of secret information.

[subbtin.725]

Quote: pok09

I have no idea who is good at this, but look what I found. This is http://lc.cx/arch an information base with materials about all citizens of our state, it is completely in open form walking on the network and anyone can use it. It would seem "well, let it be, I have nothing to hide", but the most frightening thing about this is that there is a lot of secret information.

Take it easy, fleas are over.

[Siberian German]

No, the main issue of import substitution is still personnel - how do we replace import-oriented officials with normal ones

[DanSabaka]

We do not need liberal substitution. Liberals, we don’t need either our own or strangers, we got it already.
And about European goods ... Something I do not see in the stores of empty counters ....

[sergeybulkin]

I haven’t seen European goods in Russia for 30 years (I don’t count grub), and you won’t find Russian goods in the afternoon, all over the place is China, everywhere there’s a tea pancake. The impression is that they do not produce anything at all! Nothing at all.
If they produce it in such scanty amounts that this is not visible.

[Yaro001]

But what about the "Alyonka" chocolates.

[Spnsr]

Quote: sergeybulkin

I haven’t seen European goods in Russia for 30 years (I don’t count grub), and you won’t find Russian goods in the afternoon, all over the place is China, everywhere there’s a tea pancake. The impression is that they do not produce anything at all! Nothing at all.
If they produce it in such scanty amounts that this is not visible.

there are really a lot of ranks, even that under our brands! but for example in Kazan, in the metro !, the bulk of the products are local, Russian, but more from Tatarstan, there are from Europe.
recently made individual heating with my mother, bimetal radiators - Russia, pp pipes and fittings too!
Yes, a lot of what they do in Russia, for example W, Skoda, not completely, but they do in Russia, in Kaluga, and these are jobs and taxes, and in general, they say Kaluga is blooming ...
that’s all everyone’s fault, also not happy, that we don’t like a lot, but if we don’t do it, do work, the state will not - the Soviet Union is over, there is no state property, the business went into private hands, we don’t want it, here is the GDP and calls import here, so that he creates jobs and pays taxes - this is about such as VW, Renault and much more ... by the way, when people find out where it's done, they turn their nose ... like a Russian basin
at the expense of the State Duma’s aligars, they immediately, and besides, when the crisis in Cyprus was, they said, guys home, home, of course there is a business that cannot do without it, but Sberbank, for example, needs to be big and thick ... anti social institution and most likely anti-state ...
we all want to live well, and most importantly, that we have nothing for it
we all know how to count money, especially if it’s not yours, and when we manage to grab a piece, we try to spend it in Turkey, or in a geyyropu, give them money, create jobs for them, pay them taxes, including for the army .. .
I also very much and really do not like, for example, my brother is a disabled child of childhood, unemployed, penny 3,6 tr. ok yes? There are tax deduction benefits, but I can’t take advantage ... and there are a lot of such moments.
I am happy when a person is doing well, buys one car, another, an apartment, another, a third, but is a little frustrated when another person asks for a slightly higher salary, and this one tells him that it is easier for him to fire him! it's about us

[vladimirZ]

“The resignation of the government is the key to the implementation of the import substitution policy in Russia” (from the article)

When will this event nevertheless come to pass - the liberal Government of D. Medvedev will be dismissed, Russia will abandon the liberal course of development?
Will the people wait for the actions of President of the Russian Federation V.V. Putin in this direction? A matter of life and death of Russia.

[Gardamir]

Medvedev is a friend of Putin. And Putin will never merge it.
And one more thing, today's

The State Duma adopted in the first reading a bill on compensation to Russians and Russian organizations for losses incurred due to unlawful decisions of foreign courts

Well, let's support the oligarchs, otherwise God forbid they will lose their millions as a result of sanctions. Tell VO visitors who of you have accounts abroad? Do not forget that soon free gas will go to Ukraine. Now tell us that the president, as always, is not in the know. I will be "happy" for you when payments for gas and so on will go. Prices are rising. Why did you choose the government responsible for everything, which the president has recruited, but he has nothing to do with it?

[DV69]

Quote: Gardamir

Do not forget that soon free gas will go to Ukraine.

Please explain, where does infa come from regarding free gas?

[ARS56]

Free Russian gas for ukrofashistov. Free, since it will be delivered at the request of the EU at the price set by powders and Yatsenyuk, and still without a guarantee of payment.

[DV69]

Quote: ARS56

Free Russian gas for ukrofashistov. Free, since it will be delivered at the request of the EU at the price set by powders and Yatsenyuk, and still without a guarantee of payment.

And when this decision was made, for delivery at the price of Yatsenyuk, and without guarantee of payment. Maybe I missed something?

[DRA-88]

Quote: DV69

Maybe I missed something?

Of course, missed !!!
Read the next branch and come back with new knowledge, and we will be waiting for you ....

[Yaro001]

Why minus, like that and goes.

[Gardamir]

Ukraine has not paid a debt for gas. So any gas supplies are free. Let them pay the debt forward, for there is no trust in them. And for some reason they themselves set a price.

[DV69]

Quote: Gardamir

Ukraine has not paid a debt for gas. So any gas supplies are free. Let them pay the debt forward, for there is no trust in them. And for some reason they themselves set a price.

The fact is that Ukraine does not supply any gas either paid or free.
Will be delivered after payment of debts, at a price of 385 dollars per thousand cubic meters.
Where did you get the info about resuming supplies?
Or do you propose to close the transit to Europe? So EU countries pay for gas in full.

[Yaro001]

Dear friend, if YOU are not in the know. Our tax is already at least a month, nightmares an average business with their inspections, and unscheduled. And the little one dies. ALL for the oligarchs put on the altar.

[Oldwiser]

That's right - we urgently need to find "additional income"

[vladimirZ]

Gardamir
Why did you choose the government responsible for everything, which the president collected, but he had nothing to do with it?

Because to oppose the legitimate President of the Russian Federation Putin, in the current conditions of confrontation between Russia and the United States, it is IMPOSSIBLE. Any action against Putin will be to the detriment of Russia, and to the benefit of the United States.
But to demand that President Putin fulfill his Constitutional Obligations, and not obligations to "friend Medvedev", and force through public opinion, through opposition parliamentary parties (Communist Party of the Russian Federation, LDPR, "Fair Russia") RESIGNATIONS of the liberal Government of D. Medvedev, and Medvedev himself VERY NECESSARY FOR RUSSIA.
In any country, the resignation of the government is an ordinary event, there is little that the clumsy gets into government structures or people pursuing an anti-state course. The main thing is to get rid of in time such "rulers" not elected by the people, who now, and even earlier, were also full of the Russian Government. Just remember, there were a lot of such pests as Medvedev in the Government of the Russian Federation: Gaidar, Yavlinsky, Nemtsov, Kasyanov, you can't even remember all of them.

[225chay]

Quote: vladimirZ

When will this event nevertheless come to pass - the liberal Government of D. Medvedev will be dismissed, Russia will abandon the liberal course of development?
Will the people wait for the actions of President of the Russian Federation V.V. Putin in this direction? A matter of life and death of Russia.

And where is the guarantee that it will not put a sort of black-Gaidar or even worse than a Chubai?

[vladimirZ]

225chay (2)
And where is the guarantee that it will not put a sort of black-Gaidar or even worse than a Chubai?

Nobody will ever give a 100% guarantee, because we have a capitalist oligarchic state.
"Rulers" can manipulate the opinion of the people, but completely disregard the opinion of the numerous demands of public organizations, large labor collectives, opposition parliamentary parties, popular politicians. President Putin has no right, because the experience of the same Yanukovych showed that this is fraught with complications for Putin himself.
It is possible to sit and endure the idle Government of Medvedev or anyone else, only this is dangerous for the President himself, both from the American military threat and from the people of Russia.
"Patience" among the people is not endless, and if it rises then it will not seem a little to anyone. The events of recent years are in full view, an example of Gaddafi, Milosevic, Yanukovych and others.
History must not be forgotten. Putin is not the first and not the last leader of Russia to face the political crisis, and I think life will force him to decide on the resignation of the Medvedev Government and a change in the liberal course of development of the state.

[Penzyac]

Quote: "In fact, you need to decide on the transition to a more perfect than the market system of economic relations in the country."
You can’t say better, in my opinion.

[Million]

Nikolay Arefyev indicated that today our retail distribution network is more than 90 percent owned or controlled by foreign capital.

Is it really so ???? How could this happen ????

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Million

?How could this happen????

How, how - how! Who is at the helm? Vova? Something I strongly doubt it! In the mess of the EBN era, he came to power as a devil from a snuffbox, and for 14 years he only slightly corrected Yeltsin’s policy. Yes, I ruined Chechnya and .... () returned the Crimea. Let us reason soberly - a country with a third of world reserves has an increase in GDP at the level of Africa. Not a fall - all the same growth. That is what the patriots would say. But who are we following?
Fans of Vova - at least get angry, but if he shows eggs not only to external, but also to internal enemies - I will go for him with the banners! In the meantime, he is only the manager of our oligarchic clans, defending their interests from the Western oligarchic clans (the pans are fighting - the forelocks are cracking at the slaves!). Decides on a kingdom - a flag in hand! But here you can’t do without a chopping block, and Serdyukov’s excuse leads to thoughts about the mismatch of the true goals stated. In the meantime, still more like a manager.

it is the oligarchs who are one of the main sources of instability in the country, supporting the liberal opposition. Having invested huge amounts of money in foreign banks and foreign assets, they turned out to be very dependent on these states, primarily on the USA and the EU.

here we are now at a war, a quiet war, like the war of Kolomoisky and Akhmetov.

[saag]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Let us reason soberly - a country with a third of world reserves has an increase in GDP at the level of Africa. Not a fall - still growth

Let’s, when it came, the growth was around 10%, now it’s 0,5, growth of course, only down

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: saag

when he came the growth was around 10%, now 0,5,

This is against the backdrop of sanctions. But nevertheless, globally you are right, especially if you consider that GDP growth has always been linked to the dollar exchange rate, but this "attachment" did not take into account the depreciation of the dollar in relation to main resources. those. real inflation of the "world" currency.

[atalef]

Quote: Ingvar 72

This is against the backdrop of sanctions.

This is not against the background of sanctions, do not be fooled. The forecast was (to Crimea) - +0.8 percent, with sanctions, of course, it will go to minus

Quote: Ingvar 72

You're right, especially when you consider that GDP growth has always been attached to the dollar

What a stupid thing, look at the dynamics of the dollar and you will see that it is tied to oil prices.
But grandmas can squander any

Quote: Ingvar 72

however, this "attachment" did not take into account the depreciation of the dollar in relation to the main resources. those. real inflation of the "world" currency.

Igor, look at the dynamics of the dollar over 10 years. combine with a graph of Russia's GDP - and then you will understand. that you get better eggs

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: atalef

What a stupid thing, look at the dynamics of the dollar and you will see that it is tied to oil prices.

Russia's GDP is measured in dollars. And of course it depends on the price of oil, no one argues with that. The economy is sharpened so humbly.

Quote: atalef

, see the dynamics of the dollar over 10 years. compatible with Russia's GDP graph

Do not cling to Sanya, the dollar is also not the axis of the earth, it is also losing value. Prices for resources are rising, for gold, too, but in reality it’s not resources that are growing - the purchasing power of the dollar is falling. I talked about this, and you're like a chicken about eggs!

Quote: atalef

- and then you will understand. that you get better eggs

Speaking of eggs - in Russia to go for a man who showed that he has eggs, then it’s completely different than to go for eggs. But if things are exactly like this in your country, I don’t dare to argue, you know better!

[atalef]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Russia's GDP is measured in dollars. And of course it depends on the price of oil, no one argues with that. The economy is sharpened so humbly.

The same growth can be measured in parrots , the absolute value of this does not change

Quote: Ingvar 72

Do not cling to Sanya, the dollar is also not the axis of the earth, it is also losing value.

certainly not an axis (although you should know. that the OS is a big. striped fly), however, the conversation is not about that. loses or not. and how much is losing. Normal inflation should be at the level of 0.8-1.5% - this indicates the strength of the economy, inflation (negative inflation) and, as a result, the strengthening of the currency - the same strong problem that speaks of the beginning of stagnant phenomena

Quote: Ingvar 72

Resource prices are rising, for gold

No . look at price dynamics

Quote: Ingvar 72

but in reality it’s not resources that are growing - the purchasing power of the dollar is falling.

Translate. those. if oil today is 20% cheaper than 5 months ago, i.e. I buy 20% more oil for the same dollars - what is falling? Or am I having a math problem?

Quote: Ingvar 72

Speaking of eggs - in Russia to go for a man who showed that he has eggs, then it’s completely different

Botticelli resorts to allegories. we see this perfectly in the picture Penitent Mary Magdalene , you about it ?

Quote: Ingvar 72

But if things are exactly like this in your country, I don’t dare to argue, you know better!

Believe me here. everything is very well. and we are not afraid of gays. and lesbians do not shy away and the free press and the prime minister are scolded - the people are not frightened whatsoever.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: atalef

the absolute value of this does not change

What to measure? In feet, in fathoms or meters? And if a foot every year decreases not just one millimeter, but a meter by two? The absolute value will certainly be the same, but its equivalent will be different in different dimensions.

Quote: atalef

axis (although you should know. that the OS is a big one. striped fly

Hebrew with a Ukrainian accent is a terrible thing!

Quote: atalef

. Normal inflation should be at the level of 0.8-1.5% - this indicates the strength of the economy

This is official, and again with reference to the dollar, not gold.

Quote: atalef

Or am I having a math problem?

The US agreement with the Saudis to increase oil production cannot be explained by mathematics.

Quote: atalef

. we see this perfectly in the picture Penitent Mary Magdalene

Yes you are an esthete! And I already thought of everything ...

Quote: atalef

and we are not afraid of gays. and lesbians do not shy away and the press is free and the prime minister scolding

We are not afraid of the Honduras, we despise them. And the whole country stigmatizes our prime minister. Yes, and in the press periodically rinse. And your people are scared, but his memory is short.

[atalef]

Quote: Ingvar 72

What to measure? In feet, in fathoms or meters? And if a foot every year decreases not just one millimeter, but a meter by two? The absolute value will certainly be the same, but its equivalent will be different in different dimensions.

Cho said that?
If the ruble is pegged to the dollar, then why is inflation 10 times greater in rubles?

Quote: Ingvar 72

Hebrew with a Ukrainian accent is a terrible thing!

That's right . Georgian jokes have already forgotten. of course Georgia is now the enemy

Quote: Ingvar 72

This is official, and again with reference to the dollar, not gold.

Igor. Do not go into the economy. not yours. Not necessary . why do you look funny?
Although I can give you some private lessons from my acquaintance, of course, neither for free, nor less than for a barrel of jam and a basket of cookies

Quote: Ingvar 72

The US agreement with the Saudis to increase oil production cannot be explained by mathematics.

no such agreement. The United States itself produces oil more than anyone else in the world - and indeed. cheap oil is good for the world, an impetus to the economy. cheap gasoline.

Quote: Ingvar 72

We are not afraid of the Honduras, we despise them.

Well, despise the quiet, why yell at all corners? Or should the level of contempt be consistent with the strength of the screams?

Quote: Ingvar 72

And your people are scared, but his memory is short.

Well, the scarecrow is nothing more than you.
We are less intimidated

[atalef]

Quote: Ingvar 72

then at the helm? Vova? Something I strongly doubt it! In the mess of the EBN era, he came to power as a devil from a snuffbox, and for 14 years he only slightly corrected Yeltsin’s policy.

It’s ridiculous. Yeltsin does not even suspect (in the grave) that his business lives and thrives

Quote: Ingvar 72

Fans of Vova - at least get angry, but if he shows eggs not only to external, but also to internal enemies - I’ll go for him with the banners!

Igor, you scare me. Do you need to go somewhere? Do you need to see the eggs?
In general, they’ll blow out with the banners. and you are behind the eggs, and GDP, by the way, by the way (as an observation. if the one in front will go with the eggs naked, then in general from behind. you will not see anything but the ass

Quote: Ingvar 72

Decides on a kingdom - a flag in hand!

The people are ready, bravo

Quote: Ingvar 72

here we are now at a war, a quiet war, like the war of Kolomoisky and Akhmetov.

and who is fighting with whom?

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: atalef

Igor, you scare me. Do you need to go somewhere? Do you need to see the eggs?

Against the background of yesterday's conversations on "non-traditional" topics, you understand everything too literally. Seriously interested in the "availability" of our soldiers7

Quote: atalef

and who is fighting with whom?

as usual, some oligarchs are against others. By the way, the main warring parties at the top are Jews, but cannon fodder is usually goyim. Stalin at one time understood this principle, and tried to break the vicious circle, this ended with the German attack on the USSR.
P.S. Hello or something, Levoslav!

[atalef]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Against the background of yesterday's conversations on "non-traditional" topics, you understand everything too literally. Seriously interested in the "availability" of our soldiers7

Igor, this is our holiday, don’t drink in the middle of the week

Quote: Ingvar 72

as usual, some oligarchs are against others. By the way, the main warring parties at the top are Jews,

Well, it’s not in the first one.
Especially . something good always comes out of it
2000 years ago, sorted out, sorted out among themselves - you look and there was a person in whom you believe for more than 1000 years (I mean Russia)
All goes to good . Igoryanich., Be patient.

Quote: Ingvar 72

Well, cannon fodder - as usual goyim.

Of course. but as they believe. Even for eggs with banners they are ready to go

Quote: Ingvar 72

Stalin at one time understood this principle, and tried to break the vicious circle, this ended with the German attack on the USSR.

He attacked. to finish off the Jews , and Vij, as it did not work out 9 by the way, neither is he the first) - so. that Igoryanich. as in the old saying
- If rape cannot be avoided - relax and try to have fun.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: atalef

Igor, this is our holiday, don’t drink in the middle of the week

What kind of holiday, the soldier was "chartered"? But I am for your "Sodom" things and look sober at the weekend!

Quote: atalef

- If rape cannot be avoided - relax and try to have fun

Worms also probably think that they "have" a person through the ass, but in fact they are parasites. The time will come, there will be a clove of garlic on your liberal helminths!

[atalef]

Quote: Ingvar 72

What kind of holiday, the soldier was "chartered"? But I am for your "Sodom" things and look sober at the weekend!

Igor, do not try to be dumber. what you really are

Quote: Ingvar 72

The time will come, there will be a clove of garlic on your liberal helminths!

Pancake . the king doesn’t know all this. can send walkers to the king. petition from the people to file?

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: atalef

Igor, do not try to be dumber. what you really are

"If we are unable to understand another person, there may be two options - either he is stupid or you. But for some reason we always choose the interlocutor as a fool, although often the opposite is true."

[atalef]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Quote: atalef

Igor, do not try to be dumber. what you really are

"If we are unable to understand another person, there may be two options - either he is stupid or you. But for some reason we always choose the interlocutor as a fool, although often the opposite is true."

Or you’ve got a completely rooftop motivated by homophobia.

[Yaro001]

We have oil industry workers, men receive a maximum of 15-18 tr. In the fields, steppes, mud. Oh, to their land.!

[Oldwiser]

Elementary Watson!
Retail chains are joint stock companies. Their shares are traded on exchanges. A foreign buyer comes (not even an investor) and just buys them. And when a specific master, or a group of masters, buys these shares in the amount of "controlling stake" + 1 share - he (they) and becomes the ACTUAL sovereign owner of the specified asset (retail network)

[Altona]

I agree with every letter in the article ... Everything has a place to be - incompetence, narrow outlook, nepotism, "ability" to find a "dash to spend money" plus unnecessary nationalism of local leaders, plus a lack of perspective and inability to "raise" the topic, and raise it alone , and not with the help of the state ...

[Penzyac]

Quote: Altona

I agree with every letter in the article ... Everything has a place to be - incompetence, narrow outlook, nepotism, "ability" to find a "dash to spend money" plus unnecessary nationalism of local leaders, plus a lack of perspective and inability to "raise" the topic, and raise it alone , and not with the help of the state ...

Yes, there are very few people with a state approach to business in the country's leadership: with a narrow departmental approach - more than enough; with a personally selfish approach - almost without exception (the machine gun will overheat); and the state approach is almost invisible.

[Gardamir]

Is there a state approach, only who will let them close?

[tasha]

And in the transition to a planned economy, all this will also take place. Passed already ...

[Ivan 63]

There are many, many conversations. The union was destroyed due to the fact that the West realized its superiority, even despite the fact that at the end of the 70s a certain crisis occurred, mainly associated with the loss of the leadership of the USSR, which was associated with the aging of the leadership and its irremovability, and how I already wrote above - lose "fear", the responsibility of the leadership for the operation of the economy. But even despite this, the Union was completely independent in almost any industry and its share in the World's GDP was very significant - I repeat once again that the collapse of the Union occurred due to the clearly subversive actions of the top leadership encouraged by the West. all the tales about the delights of capitalism are bluff. No one will ever master the planned economy, all other things being equal, this is not possible even theoretically (unless, of course, managers are competent professionals). The market can and should be present only in the sphere of services and small business, maybe even medium-sized, but in no way in the basic industries that make up the backbone of the state - for us this should become an axiom.

[Ruslan67]

Quote: Ivan 63

No one will ever master a planned economy, all other things being equal, this is not even possible theoretically (unless of course managers are competent pros)

So we got to the main point: If before the collapse there was already a mess with frames, then where are these pros to take now when there are only managers at every step? And it’s okay to be effective, but it’s entirely woodpeckers with brainwashed

[Penzyac]

Quote: Ruslan67

Quote: Ivan 63

No one will ever master a planned economy, all other things being equal, this is not even possible theoretically (unless of course managers are competent pros)

So we got to the main point: If before the collapse there was already a mess with frames, then where are these pros to take now when there are only managers at every step? And it’s okay to be effective, but it’s entirely woodpeckers with brainwashed

Believe me, they still exist, if there was a desire, there would be!

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: PENZYAC

Believe me, they still exist, if there was a desire, there would be!

That is, but as Gardamir said -

Quote: Gardamir

Is there a state approach, only who will let them close?

[Alan]

Quote: Ivan 63

the market can and should be present only in the sphere of services and small business, maybe even medium, but not in the basic industries that make up the backbone of the state - for us this should be an axiom.

Yes, you respected the foundations of liberalism encroach Plus to you.

[atalef]

Quote: Ivan 63

A lot, a lot of talk. The Union was destroyed because the West realized its superiority

It’s strange. always weaker collapses

Quote: Ivan 63

even despite the fact that in the late 70s there was a certain crisis, associated mainly with the loss of leadership of the USSR of reference points, which was associated with the aging of the leadership and its irremovability

Now is it called that?
By the way, Brezhnev was in power for 18 years. Putin has already surpassed him. Well, and with the next cadence (who would doubt) - will reach 25 years

Quote: Ivan 63

But even so, the Union was completely independent in almost every industry.

of course independent. only when Reagan lowered oil prices to 5 bucks. introduced an embargo on pipes and feed grain (of which they bought 100 million tons per year) --- the shelves were empty and .... what did you write about independence there?

Quote: Ivan 63

that the collapse of the Union occurred in view of the clearly subversive actions of senior management encouraged

How simple it is for you (and not only for you) the Soviet Union collapsed - they bribed the leadership. The CMEA has collapsed - they were bribed the same, Iraq was destroyed in two weeks - and they were bribed --- maybe the system was rotten?
Or can you call me a social country, where people do not get grub on cards?

Quote: Ivan 63

all the tales of the delights of capitalism- bluff

You have not seen capitalism. and apparently were not abroad.
I remember you. 70% of production in Russia is import ... from capitalist countries. And they live like that .... well, no worse.

Quote: Ivan 63

The market can and should be present only in the service sector and small business, maybe even medium, but not in the basic industries that make up the backbone of the state - for us this should be an axiom.

Well, like North Korea. more precisely Venezuela, and what, the economy is planned, all large enterprises are nationalized. for oil in the first place in the world ---- and the people buys food from a fingerprint in a store.

[Revolver]

What the author writes is general reasoning and good intentions, which, as you know, paved the road to hell. And what and how to do specifically? Mass nationalization will only lead to another "destroy to the ground, and then". But experience only teaches that these "destroy to the ground, and then" lead to devastation, both in the 1920s and in the 1990s.
And it also leads to the fact that "who was nothing, he will become everything." I will not list all who became "everyone" in the 1920s, I will only say that Stalin had to clean them out for years and not with the most delicious methods (and what could be done? Not to leave the Trotskyists and other rubbish in power?). And in the 1990s, some "ordinary Soviet people" suddenly made their way into the oligarchs, and have not yet been properly cleaned up, although the process is underway. Who needs a thread so that the next portion of those "who were nothing" suddenly "become everything"?

[Gardamir]

Why destruction to the ground? Imagine tomorrow morning I am the president. So I won’t even touch Chubais. I’ll just tell you guys, the game, by your rules, is over, either you work for the good of the Motherland, or you have 2 ways: immediately the suitcase is Omerika station, or sunny Magadan. And believe the many-footed, they will forget about liberalism and personal gain ...

[SRC P-15]

Quote: Gardamir

Why destruction to the ground? Imagine tomorrow morning I am the president. So I won’t even touch Chubais. I’ll just tell you guys, the game, by your rules, is over, either you work for the good of the Motherland, or you have 2 ways: immediately the suitcase is Omerika station, or sunny Magadan. And believe the many-footed, they will forget about liberalism and personal gain ...

And you immediately bang!

[Gardamir]

Why are they banging? Since the president means there are supporters, perhaps even from former oligarchs. Want to go to my state security? :)

[SRC P-15]

Quote: Gardamir

Why are they banging? Since the president means there are supporters, perhaps even from former oligarchs. Want to go to my state security? :)

When putting your line into practice, an incomparably larger number of enemies will be added to your supporters. And they will try, in the fight for their "acquired back-breaking labor", not to miss. Therefore, Putin is waging an almost invisible struggle with them, but bringing victory in the future, albeit not a quick one.
To the invitation to your structure, I will also answer with a joke: "I don't have time for fat, I wish I could live!"

[Revolver]

Quote: Gardamir

Imagine tomorrow morning I am the president.

I can’t imagine. GDP is not offended by health, and it seems like it is not going to retire.

[Gardamir]

Well, I don’t wish him anything bad. Just an assumption that I would do.

[high]

first you need to create your own payment system. Stop sponsoring someone else's economy. Analyze the central bank and get away from the dollar

[Penzyac]

Quote: chigh

first you need to create your own payment system. Stop sponsoring someone else's economy. Analyze the central bank and get away from the dollar

In principle, it is true, but the word "nationalize" in your proposal should be written just like that - in quotation marks, because in relation to the Central Bank it means to replace liberal monetarists in its leadership with statists, nationally oriented specialists (necessarily specialists, not "effective managers" ) and the expansion of his duties, and not the ransom or confiscation of it from some private traders; The Central Bank of the Russian Federation is not the US Federal Reserve and not even its subsidiary (by law).

[Leviton]

Article plus. They have not yet mentioned defense enterprises, which cannot be private for defense capability. After all, how to find the line between making a profit (and this is the basis of private business, otherwise why) and the regime of nondisclosure of state secrets, how else to create a truly new weapon that has no analogues? At the present time, I do not have complete confidence that some owner, for the sake of instant profit, will not give our "friends" combat capabilities and weak points of technology. And for sure, I am sure that defense is not the place for profit. Let Rosoboronexport do this (but again, without fanaticism), only after providing its own Armed Forces

[Abbra]

No revision of privatization is needed. The train left, and clinging to it - only the nails come off. There are three simple things to do:

1. To declare the territory of Russia through the Constitution "based on the multinational and cultural interests of Russian citizens as a special spiritual and economic zone."

2. Based on paragraph one, to compel all oligarchs to return 50% of the money from offshore companies and direct them to the development of the triune: education, medicine, the army. If the oligarch Sidorov sells one of his golden toilet bowls, it is thought that he will still not be a diarrhea.

3. To announce an honest appeal of the Thinkers to the government of the state. It seems to me that 15 percent of those who even comment on Voennoye Obozreniye are good for this (I don’t count myself among them. Stupid yet)

That is all.

[Gardamir]

True to revise is stupid. But to return to the state (nationalize), slowly, slowly, it is necessary.

[Mountain shooter]

A very radical article. I think there are simply no specialists in Russia now who are capable of re-deploying the planned economy in the country. Effective MBA managers should be thrown off on enemy countries, on fear of the aggressor. Any high-tech production is ruined "at once".

[host]

The only article over the years that accurately describes the problem in the economy.
The cadres decided everything in the 90s and continue to decide ...
And there will be no Russia if this "personnel policy" continues.
Salvage will defeat Russia ...

[Abbra]

We should read more ... With respect and no offense

[Alan]

Quote: vladimirZ

A matter of life and death of Russia.

Unfortunately, the question really stands that way. + To you

[tokens2]

In fact, you need to decide on a transition to a more perfect than market system of economic relations in the country.

The fact that the "market" in many industries is a bluff is a fact. So what in return?
Equals and Approval? Collapse the system of corruption, Kumovskaya is not difficult.
What in return? What to do and how to be forgiven for millions! People who are well integrated in today's system? Forks? Not an option. Russia throughout the 20th century has so much blood that repetitions will be fatal.
There is no strength and decisiveness, coupled with clever PR / propaganda, it is indisputable. Only a conscious and most importantly clever vector of the application of these forces is needed.
The market and planned economies have shown themselves in all their glory in Russia.
In their pure form, both options are useless and do not meet the time and threats.
However, the craving of the worker to make money and save on his expenses is a powerful lever! The engine of hearts, so to speak. And it is stupid not to have this lever in the economy. Whatever this “lever” does not sabotage. Be it pseudo-market or pseudo-planned means.
Article +. Well, at least for this:

The speakers, despite the strict regulations (only five to eight minutes to speak), revealed almost all aspects of this multifaceted problem, showing its multifaceted nature and proposing a set of measures to solve it.

Import substitution must begin with the language. And the instructions will be shorter. And time will appear for control.

[saag]

Quote: Lexi2

What to do and how to be sorry with millions! People who are well integrated in today's system?

As they wrote earlier-on the construction of the national economy, the truth it will have to organize for a start :-)

[tokens2]

As they wrote earlier-on the construction of the national economy, the truth it will have to organize for a start :-)

To vent anger on people prone from nature to quick enrichment - I think it’s sinful.
The devaluation of the concepts of good and evil, due to chaos and collapse, lies entirely with the state.
In the chaos, the fittest survived, and mostly at the expense of someone. Not all. But many. Cynically, but true.
Well, those who drank and stupid, remained in the rearguard.
So ... "construction" must be instilled in the souls of people. For besides money, there are other things. Happiness, time, family is not a bank account. Conversion and exchange of one for another cannot be done at an ATM. You need God's consent .

[basmach]

Yes, about what the Communists have been saying in the article for ten years. However, the government propaganda has made the GDP indispensable, on which EVERYTHING rests and God forbid .... At the same time, distracting attention, they scare them with a "swamp" riffraff, and keep silent about the real opposition in the face of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation. An extreme example is today's vote on "Rotenberg's law". Passed only thanks to Edros. Well, who are our enemies of the people? Maybe it's time to become adults and stop believing in "the strength and wisdom of an irreplaceable leader", in the end everything is done under his leadership, after all, we have a president and a commander in chief and so on.

[Leksandrych]

I agree with the author of the article. This government is not able to work in modern conditions prevailing in our economy. It's time for managers who know how to harness the allocated funds. It’s not necessary to harness, but to produce.

[high]

Every 10 rubles of an ordinary Russian citizen. Goes to the budget of the USA and EU countries, not counting the purchase of imported goods. It is necessary to radically change the financial system

[Denis fj]

"... in the context of the growing crisis in our economy, the Russian government finances other states."
It is difficult to call it otherwise than a state crime.

[Oldwiser]

Only where is that Porfiry Petrovich, who for this "Crime" will provide the appropriate "Punishment"

[fridge]

Respect to the author.! So over the long history of Russia, Russia has not developed a system of PROTECTION AGAINST a Fool and these fools periodically spoil the country, and then people heroically overcome the backlog.

[Massik]

In our country, everything is visible immediately, it is so big, there is so much in it, and we are sitting like a beggar *.
We will not touch on the eternal theme of thieves and already even mention them disgusting.
I understand there are people of a sort of "middle class" - with education, with experience, engineers, foremen, intelligent managers. So after all, a simple job must also be done by someone and live at the same time.

[Demob 2012]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

I think that in Russia there are simply no specialists who are able to once again deploy the planned economy in the country.

Effective managers can appear only from bottom to top, and not top to bottom, since at least they should know the industry in which they work and their problems. Our work is based on 2 principles:
1. The boss is always right.
2. When the boss is wrong, see point 1.
But the boss is not always right, and he doesn’t like it when they say that he is not right and that’s why this is the situation with us, reaching the top of hundreds of thousands of units.

[Demon0n]

Again the hut ...
Well, well, that identified the problem of competencies, and then what? How will we search, select and from whom competent specialists in the relevant fields?
Suppose that such specialists are presently unclaimed. What are the parameters of the sample and, most importantly, the principles of the formation of the series? The next nuance ... The reason (s) for which the experts were not in demand (a very important topic that can put all efforts into the toilet)?
Now, let us assume that all competent specialists are employed "for their intended purpose" (an objective shortage of specialists). How to bring up new ones? Those. competent specialists ... What is competence, where can a young (_or, or anyone? how to deal with professional mobility and loss of skills? _) get practical skills sufficient for the quality performance of their functions? __ it feels like you are talking with children, in a roundabout way leading them to the right answer__
There is now no other choice but the state. management (or control ... depending on the possibilities) at many large enterprises (if it is possible to assess the efficiency of the enterprise) in the mode of almost "manual" personnel management (almost utopia, however ...). The result, perhaps, will not be the most brilliant, but at least enterprises will return to their direct "duties", and then it will be possible to look at efficiency and raise the corresponding problem area (not to bankrupt the enterprise, but ...! The reason (S, in general to eliminate unprofitability and inefficiency: in most cases it will be an external factor, i.e. outside the enterprise, therefore - above, state control / management). At the same time (in the process of sorting out efficiency problems), pay attention to the fact that some specialists are not enough, but it seems that the need and their type have almost been "formulated" ...

I will work with oracle:
All the same, protectionism will not do without: the objective conditions are not the same.
There will be no fundamental difference after the change of economic, political and other formations and systems: the actual content will remain the same (I hoped that this would already be obvious). But ..., you can change some mechanisms (while in manual control mode, then ..., then you will see what criteria and methods to apply).

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Demon0n

actual content will remain the same

But the power will not be excruciatingly insulting. There will be pride, an understanding of the goal, and this is an IDEA. And with the idea, neither hunger nor cold can do anything!

[muks]

It seems to me that finding out by the participants in the controversy who set the minus to whom ... Actually - do not mark the beads in front of the pigs, because they will trample .... And the obvious: learning without thinking is bad; thinking without learning is scary.

[muks]

It seems to me that finding out by the participants in the controversy who set the minus to whom ... Actually - do not mark the beads in front of the pigs, because they will trample .... And the obvious: learning without thinking is bad; thinking without learning is scary.

[sv68]

it’s just that we didn’t have a real market — there was and is a liberal-market economy — you can’t call it economics. And it’s not a matter of bad kings or stupid ministers — the matter is in the training system itself, alas, it’s not a place for a local or global deity who knows only to give orders and not trying to somehow solve these or other problems, not deities, it's up to the person to live through. Therefore, we have such power and such a life

[Demob 2012]

Quote: Demon0n

Again, a hut-talking room ... Well, well, that identified the problem of competencies, and then what? How will we search, select and from whom competent specialists in the relevant fields?

what prevents to discuss the idea, put forward specific proposals and send it to www.roi.ru - to the site of the Russian Public Initiative, will vote for the idea of ​​100 thousand you see and the Duma will consider it.

[Demon0n]

Quote: Demnel 2012

Quote: Demon0n

Again, a hut-talking room ... Well, well, that identified the problem of competencies, and then what? How will we search, select and from whom competent specialists in the relevant fields?

what prevents to discuss the idea, put forward specific proposals and send it to www.roi.ru - to the site of the Russian Public Initiative, will vote for the idea of ​​100 thousand you see and the Duma will consider it.

The point is that the problem is complex. Those. it is a "conglomerate" of problems in various areas that make up the system (otherwise, we would not talk about it or read about it). Therefore, it is advisable to talk about modeling the System, or rather its restoration in the form of a complex and complex Model: everyone knows some part, but understanding of a single Model, which allows forecasting, planning, etc. - no. How did you determine that the hut is a canteen? The question was not raised, and the statement was given without evidence ... To restore the Model (read as the basis for solving a "conglomerate" or a system of interrelated problems), it takes a lot of time and many specialists, incl. a wide profile, organized in the form of an appropriate regular event or organization with an appropriate Purpose (more precisely, the sequence of Purposes). Such events have not been and are not being carried out (there is no basis for solving and understanding the complex of Problems, therefore there can be no solution). Now you can catch it in words: one problem - one model - one solution (they only forgot about the links between the models, and the Objective of achieving the Goal, as a systemic "conglomerate" of goals, which is not included in the tasks and goals, on which we got burned ... what time is it?). Simply put, at the moment, it is possible to plan and solve individual atomic tasks and problems (probably ..., it is possible ...), but it is not possible to link them to solve global problems, because missing tool.
As for me personally, I am not the one who is authorized to make the appropriate decisions, etc. (there is no public administration yet, no assessment, but a banal statement). Therefore, my knowledge, skills, etc. ... "competence" ... - does not make sense. Another thing is those who .... For these people, the appropriate competence is important. Here is the answer to the question (let me paraphrase): "Why not say when to turn left, when to right, and in general, where and how to put your foot in order to take a step." So there is more benefit (in the long term) and the higher the likelihood of success (look at Ukraine: what are the bearers of an idea capable of ... albeit an absurd destructive one). However, such an approach could have been noticed since the school and institute of the Soviet era (and there are quite definite reasons for this), now, I think, with this it is worse.

[Andriuha077]

Quote: Dembel 2012

you look and the Duma will consider

Total Initiatives: 4267
Pending 1 Initiative
Decision made by 10 Initiatives
About efficiency Did everyone hear?
Initiatives from the people in the ROI are in abundance, and noticeably more robust than the deputies give out.
This thought will not consider.

[prishelec]

Now the State will pay compensation to those citizens who, not respecting this very State, invested money in foreign banks, it’s just a spit in the face of ordinary citizens! .. Down with the government, iPhone on soap, zaip.al already))

[gunya]

Quote: Civil

Give kirzachi and footcloths, tested over the centuries. (this is a personal opinion, not a call)

By the way, kirzachi and footcloths are much more convenient than berets. With a correctly wrapped footcloth, you will never rub your feet, and the Kirzachs are rather cheap, comfortable and lightweight shoes. So before you write, you need to check on yourself.
On the terms of service. No matter what they say, it’s not enough years. For the year you can only prepare a mediocre shooter.

[Demob 2012]

Quote: Demon0n

The point is that the problem is complex. Those. it is a "conglomerate" of problems in various areas that make up the system (otherwise, we would not talk about it or read about it).

I completely agree, but for effective management, whether we want to or not, we need to create the conditions so that not an effective leader would just be removed from the economy. Otherwise, we will have 2 problems as before: fools and roads. And without removing fools from the economy, we won’t get any roads either.
Whether we want it or not, we need to create conditions so that the head of a state-owned enterprise, the mayor or the governor, after "screwing up", understands that he will never work in the state sector of the economy. And as now "screwed up" in one sovereign place, disappeared, surfaced in another, again "screwed up" and so on ad infinitum. Only these shoals are in the amount of millions of rubles, and who pays for it is a taxpayer. Do you need such leaders?

[1-ST Engineer]

Every 15 days a new enterprise opens in Russia
, the problem is not power alone, but money — there is no cheap long-term loan, and why not, it’s very simple there are no normal banks — they shout, we give a large percentage because we have inflation, they took nonsense in the West at 3-4 percent, and from us they fought from 15 to 20 and the ruble stood like a shovel ... And this is 200 percent or more of the margin, and therefore banks like dogs are not cut, they say there will be competition, well, who will raise credit more ... and shorten the payback period ... Maximum five large federal banks and one regional. And the authorities don’t have time to check the money flows because they don’t have time to check everyone whose bank and who is the owner ..... and so on and so forth ...

[sxn278619]

it is obvious that import substitution makes the product more expensive for the buyer. This is obvious to everyone. This should be done only in those areas related to national security - food, electronics, VPK.

[pok09]

I have no idea who is good at this, but look what I found. This is http://lc.cx/arch an information base with materials about all citizens of our state, it is completely open on the Internet and anyone can use it. It would seem "well, let it be, I have nothing to hide", but the most frightening thing about this is that there is a lot of secret information.

[Little Lost]

[quote = DRA-88] Yesterday a law was signed on the taxation of individuals.
Now, starting in 2015, we will pay for real estate with cadastral value, that is, the tax increases at times!

Well, no slogans without facts, please.
This tax is primarily aimed at excess, excess housing on the number of residents. Those. a certain standard (I don’t remember exactly, something about 10 square meters per person) is not taxed at all. And the rest through regional factors. And what these recounts will be - these are questions for the local authorities. On the ground, there is always the opportunity to ask - why, in fact? Consequently, the greatest tax burden will be borne by citizens who have earned overwork of 100-200 sq. M / elite housing in the most attractive for living areas of our Immense.
Sincerely, somehow

[Zomanus]

Why clean the market? It is necessary to orient the economy to its own production. And starting from school to train workers, milkmaids, technicians. Accordingly, demonstrate, not in words, how important they are for the country. Next, choose leaders and managers from youth. And train them to manage the team, production, industry. This is all one chain, such as the October Pioneer Komsomolets. It’s just that in the late Union it resulted in pushing comfortable people. And we need to sift the population in search of people with specific qualities.

[Demob 2012]

Quote: 1-ST Engineer

and money - there is no cheap long-term loan, and why not, it’s very simple; we don’t have normal banks - they shout, we give a big percentage, because we have inflation, they took nonsense in the West at 3-4 percent, and they fought us from 15 to 20 and the ruble stood as if dug ...

1. Loans who gives - Bank,
2. What% depends on - the Central Bank refinancing rate.
3. Who leads it - the head
4. The leader who is a person
So a person must understand what he is doing.
The crisis is in the head, not in the country. To be honest, I myself do not understand the logic of the Central Bank. The Central Bank raises the rate, loans are getting more expensive, people stop taking loans and stop buying expensive things: apartments, cars, etc. Consequently, demand is falling. If there is no demand, then production ceases, i.e. reductions begin and enterprises close and salaries drop. As a result, the level of tax revenue decreases. And ultimately, a crisis arises. Or am I misunderstanding something. in general, sober not understand

[romandostalo]

So-called effective managers do huge damage
What is the team Serdyukov (Sorry for taken out of context)