Ukrainian Aircraft Repair Plant Restores Su-24 Bomber Party

The Nikolaev aircraft repair plant will soon transfer to the Ukrainian army a batch of restored Su-24 bomber, reports Interfax-Ukraine.

The press service of the state concern Ukroboronprom says that “by now, the Su-24М and Su-24МР control and recovery works have already been carried out at the plant. Restoration of four more Su-24Ms and the transfer of army vehicles will be provided in the near future. ”

The general director of the concern, Sergei Pinkas, noted that "Given the urgent need of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the front-line bombers, the plant, along with other Ukroboronprom enterprises, is operating in three shifts."

News the agency, citing the Ministry of Defense, reports that "during the anti-terrorist operation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, three Su-24s were lost, two of them were shot down (by militias), another was lost as a result of equipment failure."

Publication certificate: “The Nikolaev plant specializes in the overhaul and medium repair of IL-76, IL-78, Tu-142М (MG, MK), Tu-22М3, Su-24, Yak-42, Yak-40, An-32, An-24, An-26, An-12, IL-18, Tu-134, Tu-154 of all modifications and engines, as well as ship gas turbine installations and components. The enterprise has been part of the state enterprise Ukroboronprom since April 2011. ”

Comments

[Stanislav 1978]

How long.

[DRA-88]

and did the airships end?

[GDP]

I don’t think that they take a long time to fly, it’s too complicated, emergency and at the same time old equipment. By the number of accidents, Su 24 occupied the 1 place in the USSR, but that was a quarter century ago ...

[domokl]

Quote: GDP

, too complicated, emergency and at the same time old equipment.

You did not carefully read the info ... The factory specializes in the repair of these, including aircraft ...

[lelikas]

Quote: domokl

You did not carefully read the info ... The factory specializes in the repair of these, including aircraft ...

And the pilots, the same factory?

[jjj]

And pay attention to the amount of repair and timing. This is pure sabotage

[Alexey RA]

Quote: domokl

You did not carefully read the info ... The factory specializes in the repair of these, including aircraft ...

So they will not fly from the factory. And the Su-24 - the car is quite complicated in handling and maintenance.
Are there experienced pilots in the unit that will operate them and, most importantly, experienced and competent technicians with a set of equipment and spare parts? If at least one of these points is missing, then the repaired sides will quickly return to their original state - like Mamchur’s in Belbek.

[Iline]

Quote: domokl

The factory specializes in the repair of these, including aircraft ...

The fact of the matter is that there is such a list of repaired aircraft that a normal person twists his finger at the temple. One enterprise cannot qualitatively repair such a nomenclature of aircraft. And judging by the above picture, it seems that they are trying to collect one goner from several pimps.

[VAF]

Quote: domokl

. The plant specializes in the repair of these, including aircraft ...

Sasha, this used to be a PLANT and that "main specialization" he had Tu-22M and Il-76
And for the su-24, there is a lot of "what" is needed VERY, that's where to get it all , especially in the article it is precisely the HF OF WORK that is correctly written, and not the repair .. roughly speaking .. "de-preservation" of old, removal from the entire "reserve" of everything that is more or less efficient and "sloughing" of that. what happens.
About MR I will say right away .. there will be a complete LAZHA, because. even under the Union of BKR "worked" ... through one place, especially for the transfer of data, and here
And how will the Su-24M be "adjusted" and "programmed"? Who will "count" and make "firmware"? Who will "deal" with PNS, BCVS, Orion, Relief and Kaira?

In short ... as in the days of the "king of the pea" I established data from PPV, during visual contact with a dive target provided that they fly, of course

[GDP]

article title:
Ukrainian Aircraft Repair Plant Restores Su-24 Bomber Party

You did not carefully read the info ... The factory specializes in the repair of these, including aircraft ...

Does the design, reliability and complexity of maintenance and piloting change due to the fact that this plant specializes "including" in the repair of these aircraft?
I doubt it ...
In Russia, Su 24 is much larger than in Ukraine, and I am sure that they are in better condition, but ours did not dare to repair and restore them, I do not think that the best specialists work in Ukraine than in Russia ...

[Semen Semyonitch]

Quote: GDP

By the number of accidents, Su 24 took 1st place in the USSR, but that was a quarter century ago ...

... that is, they should not take off? Or take off once?

[VAF]

Quote: Semyon Semyonich

..that is, they should not take off? Or take off once?

No, just a DIFFICULT and CAPRICABLE car! Everything hangs on restrictions - for example, wing permutation 450 ... minimum 440 (more than 450 is a prerequisite, less .. the same), so "dodge") well, etc.

[Gregazov]

Quote: GDP

I don’t think that they take a long time to fly, it’s too complicated, emergency and at the same time old equipment. By the number of accidents, Su 24 occupied the 1 place in the USSR, but that was a quarter century ago ...

He served in Vladimirovka from 1985 to 1991. Almost every year, one or two pilots from SLI2 (bombers) died on the Su-24. So these are test pilots on prepared for flights (usually industry) aircraft.
I think that the Su-24 will not save ukrovermaht, this is not a wunderwafer.

[VAF]

Quote: GregAzov

. Almost every year, one or two pilots from SLI2 (bombers) died on the Su-24

I fully confirm +! but not only SLI2, but also SLI1 did not "pass" this bitter fate.
And before, all su-24s were "listed" only for SLI1. It was already somewhere in the 80th year that it was decided to "admit" bombers to su-24s. And then they had "themes" at all strained
And the planes were still listed in the squadrons of the 4th squadron .. then a couple appeared in the Center itself (dad Tsuvarev "lay down with his bones", so that this did not happen .. but the TRUTH prevailed). But to "stuff these machines into" themes " ..the issue was resolved at the level of Migunov-Agurin .. the Pope did not recognize other "opinions" )

[Ezhaak]

Quote: DRA-88

and did the airships end?

Alas, yes! Now they will repair torn airships.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: DRA-88

and did the airships end? belay

They are not assigned to them according to the scenario. For, as everyone knows, airships are the basis of the air force of a totalitarian regime.

KIROV REPORTING!

[subbtin.725]

noted that "Given urgent need Ukrainian Armed Forces in front-line bombers, the plant, along with other enterprises of "Ukroboronprom", works in three-shift mode».

What kind of need is this? Again, the maydaunas of the peaceful cities are planning to bomb. I hope that the militia will have something to meet the junta.

[domokl]

Quote: subbtin.725

What kind of need is this?

Actually, the plant is dill ... And not Russian .. There is a need, therefore, ... The militia is qualitatively reducing the dill aviation ...

[g1v2]

Today's news about the rearmament of the Bulgarian air force is much more suspicious to me, since only the Bulgarians have 14 su25 and spare parts for them, plus 29, if they are removed from duty, they may well emerge in dill. to dry drying. In general, they restore the dill air forces, albeit on a smaller scale.

[kodxnumx]

Targets for the army of New Russia!

[domokl]

Quote: kod3001

Targets for the army of New Russia!

Alas ... So far, no ... They fly too high ... And the dill government does not particularly supply the militia with serious air defense systems ...

[Non-war]

Alas ... So far, no ... They fly too high ... And the dill government does not particularly supply the militia with serious air defense systems ... - Who knows, how to know ... According to unconfirmed information, the AN-26 was shot down on July 14 at an altitude of 6400 meters, where MANPADS were not getting. Apparently Voentorg was not asleep at that moment.

[Kostyar]

BADLY...!!!

[Giant thought]

The junta is preparing to continue the war.

[bekjan]

Fly, before taking off, cross yourself and make a will. The sky of New Russia is not waiting for you on your flying coffins.

[ermolai]

and in the Minsk agreement, like the flight ban was said, then the Russian Federation can land without problems from its territory, or was I mistaken?

[siberalt]

We haven't flown for a long time. So MANPADS will "rust"

[siberalt]

We haven't flown for a long time. So MANPADS will "rust"

[Jurkovs]

And where do they get spare parts? Question to the FSB.

[APASUS]

Quote: Jurkovs

And where do they get spare parts? Question to the FSB.

Where the aircraft themselves are located, in the storage depots.
Although of course I have big doubts. So what in the picture can be brought into a divine form, and even in such a short time ........ fantastic!
There is of course an option with kamikaze

[nvn_co]

Uuuuu Well straight party! And restoration is like doing one out of 4 ...

[smile]

nvn_co
Don't underestimate them. The forty-million-strong country, even with the industrial potential that has remained, and given the help of "friends-hosts", is quite capable of rebuilding the Armed Forces, supplying them with equipment and more or less trained l / s, in an amount sufficient for successful actions against the Armed Forces of Novorossia. the form in which they are now. Ukraine has enough resources.
Frankly, it annoys us that while our Novorossiya cannot agree and unite, the Kiev regime is preparing, apparently, to repeat the Bosnian scenario, when Serbian Krajina was defeated in a matter of days.
I hope that they will overstrain economically, or go to war before they are sufficiently combat-ready. By the way, the fact that completely frostbitten bandarlogs and outright Nazis, who can only destroy everything they touch (first of all, their country), will obviously creep into the Rada, oddly enough, also inspires some hopes that everything will be done "according to the mind." the regime cannot.

[GDP]

Good idea. It’s always dangerous to underestimate an enemy ...
True, with the departure of the Crimea, Donetsk and Lugansk regions, the population of Ukraine decreased from 48 to 40 millions - but this is also a huge force. In the warehouses of Ukraine, weapons are unmeasured, they don’t need to be created, they just need to be restored, and you don’t need a great mind for this. They can crush Novorossia by pure quantity, only this takes time ...

[shasherin.pavel]

Quote: GDP

population of Ukraine decreased from 48 to 40

the most unpleasant thing for Krajina is that it is the country's industrial potential. Now only Kharkov and Nikolaev can give something to the country. But she lost coal, purchases in South Africa are a bluff, since all the stations are "sharpened" for their own coal, everything else will coke the furnaces and put them out of action until the middle of the heating season. It is noteworthy that it was near Nikolayev, close to the airfield, that a structure was built very similar to the prison in Guantanamo. Maybe they are preparing to use the Nazi "not reliable" for the repair of military equipment?

[Non-war]

the most unpleasant thing for Krajina is that it is the country's industrial potential. - This is unpleasant for everyone, and for Ukraine, and for the DPR WITH LPR. Some mined orgya, others processed it. The former do not know how to get out before the winter season, and for the latter, the problem is not even who to sell to, but that factories are broken and the mines are half flooded.

[cat hippopotamus]

Ukraine is trying to restore the sun but where to get so many zombie goblins who will go against their brothers. It is no longer rare that whole units revolt and go over to the side of the militias.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

It’s a bad thing ... They will bomb the cities again. I hope the snipers in Novorossia haven’t lost their ability to fire MANPADS! God help you .. (do not take pilots captive)

[Sirocco]

Quote: MIKHAN

.Sniper in Novorossia I hope they have not lost their ability to fire MANPADS! God help you .. (do not take pilots captive)

A little foolishness over the quote.

The general director of the concern, Sergey Pinkas, noted that "Given the urgent need of the Militias in practical skills of firing from MANPADS, the plant, along with other enterprises of Ukroboronprom, operates in a three-shift mode. "

[Severomor]

Well, the ceasefire can end.

[Agarkov Vitaliy]

It’s too early until they fixed all the iron

[SeAl2014]

Iron can be repaired. Do you mean pilots?

[DPZ]

it’s time to end the truce, for 2-4 days, they haven’t repaired for more ...

[RUSS]

Ukrainian Aircraft Repair Plant Restores Su-24 Bomber Party

Someone from the militia will have to paint more new stars on the "pipe" of MANPADS.

[jovanni]

Let them not fly where it is not necessary, and then they will be happy ... I mean, they can stay alive ...

[tomket]

but in the background, the case is not Tu 22m3 in a dismantled state? On su 24 like a trident, or is the photo old?

[shasherin.pavel]

on the keel with the number 20 exactly "the pitchfork from the Ukrainian villa".

[VAF]

Quote: tomket

but in the background, not a case of Tu 22m3 in a semi-disassembled state? On su 24 like a trident

So exactly only 2 or 3 from this photo is difficult to say, well, and the "plug .. without fat" was on all Ukrainian planes, almost immediately after ... the adoption of "independence and independence"

[Mountain shooter]

Let's see how they appear. But I doubt it can work as an attack aircraft. Donetsk are going to bomb? The air defense of Novorossia must be strengthened. Anything higher than the Needle. Maybe "Verba" will be given for testing?

[s30461]

Quote: nvn_co

Uuuuu Well straight party! And restoration is like doing one out of 4 ...

No matter how much they do, it's still bad. Nothing good for New Russia and the militias. They are intended for massacre, and not for the distribution of humanitarian aid to the population ...
News frankly, hr. Novaya.

[rotmistr60]

Restored does not mean that they will fly. First you need flight tests, only then, if everything is fine, in order. But the militia during the war learned to handle perfectly MANPADS.

[dima-fesko]

Question: how (they were completed from 3 x 1), at the expense of what spare parts, in what time, how much will be repaired in general? Good luck with the "dressed eagles" .... planting in a potato field ... a field

[Iline]

Quote: dima-fesko

due to which spare parts

In 1999 - 2000, Tu-160 and Tu-95MS were squeezed out of Ukraine at the expense of debt for gas. At the same time we went to warehouses in Vinnitsa, Kirovograd, Khmelnitsky, etc. for equipment and spare parts. Believe me - there after the collapse of the union a lot of things remained. Only in 14 years, it somehow had to disperse if it was good to fly and monitor the state of aviation equipment.

[ArhipenkoAndrey]

Yes, in the glorious city of Nikolaev, the belly is correct Svidomo, they know who they will be hammering into these planes, the conclusion is that there are no civilians there, especially those who rivet combat planes — killers along with punishers.

[Belarus]

The thing here, in my opinion, is not how many people have been restored and how many shifts work. But in my opinion, the whole thing is that they generally work and repair something. You can conclude from this: either the workers are intimidated for the reason: .. whoever doesn’t work is either an accomplice of the militias or brainwashed to such a state that they sacredly think that they were attacked by the Russian Federation (it’s good that they are not aliens).

[aleks 62]

..... Talked recently with the mainland .... They really think and BELIEVE that they were attacked by the Russian Federation !!!!!! My arguments like "... if the Russian Federation, then they would have stood in Kiev for a long time ...." are not taken into account (shouting shouting !!!! as if I were zombified by Putin ) ..... Even more interesting .... A friend from Israel arrived (a year did not see each other), so there the former Ukrainians (they left 20-25 years ago) in all seriousness with foam at the mouth prove the same .... .All the world went crazy !!!!!

[cat hippopotamus]

Here, unfortunately, we are losing on the information front, holding the position that the truth itself will emerge and will not go anywhere, but it will emerge, but when? In the meantime, the truth is drowning in the crap of lies, Americans are lying to the whole world without a twinge of conscience, the main thing now is to create a first opinion and then try to convince.

[muhomor]

That's what you need to bomb!

[Lenar]

Why did they restore them? All the same, the militia will take away the birds from them.

[ermolai]

yes it is necessary to select, but together with Nikolaev, Kharkov, Odessa and further on the list.

[cerbuk6155]

This is what a truce with the enemy leads to. And they set up our rebels. They work in 3 shifts. And the children of their lives for this must be put.

[makosha]

1. Most likely, several old men were chosen from scrap metal, and they were restored with components from completely dead products. Once such a miracle may take off. However, it is not a fact that the number of landings will be equal to the number of take-offs.
2. Crews on the Su-24 have been preparing for years. So there is also a second question: who will steer?

[cat hippopotamus]

Well, they are waiting for you, MANPADS are ready, reception centers of colormet in Novorossia are waiting for new arrivals.

[ISKANDER25]

Hello! Soon they will fly on carpet-planes !!!

[ISKANDER25]

Hello! SUBSTANTIATE THE MINUS! OR WEAKLY!

[fax66]

The main task of the Ukrainian Air Force is to knock out / destroy militia rockets :)

[sm00vik]

Ukraine will not restore its armed forces in the next 10 years, as it seems to me, to a level capable of at least somehow competing with Russia. Not enough urine. There are no resources. Everything is stolen and given to the zapadents. But to arm her - who needs it? Well, there will be suns of the level of a Central European country, so what? In fact, Ukrainians never liked to fight, this is not that nation (I take it as a general, without particulars). And Ukraine needs Europe more as a normal raw materials appendage and a market, as opposed to Russia, again. And all this with the most negative development of events for us. And so look, then the coming year or this scales in the person of Ukraine may once again swing in one direction or another. And then under whom it may turn out to be completely dependent on Russia.

[el.krokodil]

you give each fighter for MANPADS! the militia, too, doesn’t slurp with soup, it’s proved, and checked! Nikolaev factories, the forge of dill, you need to take them into circulation

[Assistant]

give each fighter for MANPADS! the militia is also not cabbage soup slurp-proven-and verified!

I would not share your joy. Ukrainians want to use the Su-24M and Su-24MR bombers - they are capricious, difficult to operate, and more likely to be targeted for delivering targeted strikes against important and well-covered targets than for working on the battlefield with everything that is on the ground. They probably understood that in this situation it is better to use a more complex and less suitable bomber than an attack aircraft - simply because the attack aircraft flies in the MANPADS coverage area.
The idea, in principle, is sound, another question is whether it will turn out to be implemented.
Well, Voentorg should understand that there has been a demand for certain types of equipment ...

[0255]

The plant was probably built by "damned m * skals" under totalitarian communism?

[V1451145]

The engine left. Ukrainians do not have any sense. No specialists. Well, restore a maximum of 10 aircraft, so what? They cannot make a difference. They will also bring down)) or yourself ... fuck))) It’s too late to drink Borjomi when the kidneys refused ...

[glitchy]

and where will they fly on their pepelats, then, after such a hodgepodge, these planes are scary to roll out of the hangar, not to mention flying. God forbid that not one of them could rise into the air.

[Andrey Draganov]

A new pile of scrap metal in the Donetsk steppes.

[semmish]

In vain do you jerk dear ones. The news is very, very bad. Capacities at the Nikolaev plant are huge. And at the expense of the workers, what do you want them to go on strike there. Kharkiv strikes a lot? How tanks riveted and riveted. There is a state order and payment in advance for work, and in Nikolaev. One hope is that there are not many prepared flight personnel for ukrov. Although in three or four months it is quite possible to complete the program of a combat training course in the presence of fuel, serviceable equipment and instructors.

[26rus]

The capacities may be huge, but you also need to have equipment, accessories, a complete set of documentation and technologies, as well as a repair fund. Not to mention trained staff. And to do "on the knee" - no sense, only harm. Therefore, all aircraft repair enterprises specialized in one or two types of aircraft. And here - a dozen and a half (and even in the photo An-2 and Yak 18). In general - some kind of crap. And one more thing: Tu-154 has never been repaired in Nikolaev, only Moscow (Vnukovo), the Ministry of Water and Samara.

[starochkin77]

SU-24 was built here in Novosibirsk, now SU-34 is riveted, but they don't forget about the 24th, they maintain, repair, modernize, do overhaul, especially amused in the photo, AN-2 in the background of "drying" - they are on the way with him, or what, the spare parts are jerking And in terms of the variety of diverse machinery in the workshop, it’s more like Uncle Vasya-garage repair in boxing (jack of all trades!)

[Agarkov Vitaliy]

Yes. The capacities are huge in Nikolaev, and in Kharkov too. Therefore, New Russia in the current borders can not remain. It is necessary to take the remaining areas.

[Prussian]

horseradish equipment with it, most importantly trained crews, but with them there is nowhere worse. And in general, few full-fledged Air Force, like the Navy,

[vodolaz]

Oh, new targets!

[Figvam]

and Nikolaev must be taken
and Odessa too
land passage to the Crimea is so convenient

[Bear in the north]

For a long time there were no reports of downed planes of the outskirts, I hope that not everyone wasted MANPADS. But in fact, the news is not pleasant.

[vdtomsk]

1. Most likely, several old men were chosen from scrap metal, and they were restored with components from completely dead products. Once such a miracle may take off. However, it is not a fact that the number of landings will be equal to the number of take-offs.
2. Crews on the Su-24 have been preparing for years. So there is also a second question: who will steer?

those in the picture

[kill the fascist]

I hope the army of New Russia has no shortage of MANPADS

[NBN]

I would like to look into the eyes of the hard workers who riveted these bombers. Do they understand what and for whom they are doing? What and whom will their products kill?
If they understand the ideological, they are satisfied with the result - it’s good to beat a serious opponent - men's work. But if you rotten rotten, in the toilet they whisper about the junta, and for it rivets the planes - it’s bad, people. Well, if the engines in those cars do not start - then fine.

[Non-war]

I would like to look into the eyes of the hard workers who riveted these bombers. - you would see the joy of the fact that they plow in three shifts and that they pay salaries with a bonus. For today's Ukrainian realities (especially for industrial regions) this is a serious argument.

[Siberia 9444]

The factory where they were made can repair, upgrade - this is Novosibirsk. And so the collective farm option

[ODERVIT]

Nothing like this. The Air Force has always had the Office of Overhaul and Repair, which had a huge network of aircraft repair enterprises. And a significant part of them were not fallow. So they can carry out average repair of planes and engines. But the components were supplied by manufacturers, in this case, the Novosibirsk AZ them. Chkalova. Although in general I agree, a gamble, with difficultly predictable consequences.

[Eaglealex]

You just don’t need to worry here ... In Kazakhstan, over the past five years, three planes crashed and underwent repairs and modernization on an independent site ... Parts were rearranged, that's the whole repair ... But the crews were sorry, there were good guys. And the money, IMHO, sawed ...

[Alibekulu]

Quote: EagleAlex

In Kazakhstan, over the past five years, three aircraft crashed, undergoing repairs and modernization on an ...

Nu, as it were, fell after the "major" repairs in Russia. Well, the recently fallen Su-27 was being repaired in Belarus.

24 April 2013 year near Karaganda, the MiG-31Б crashed. The Commission concluded that the tragedy occurred due to poor-quality repair of the aircraft, namely, “locksmiths Rzhevsky Aircraft Repair Plant not completely tightened one of the nuts. ” Crew commander Marat EDIGEEV at the cost of his life took the emergency fighter away from the nearest village. Navigator major Ruslan GALIMZYANOV managed to survive.

[fridge]

Some kind of inconsistency in dill, you need not only from our TV, the press, but also from gas, aircraft of all Russian refuse.

[antikilller55]

It's normal, otherwise the air defense forces of Novorossia are already bored without work. Good luck yellow-blue targets ...

[Oml]

Nonstop flights to them!

[Grigorievich]

They haven't repaired for so many years, and then suddenly they recruited specialists for three shifts. Another cut of money and ukropskaya propoganda. They raise their "fighting" spirit and hang noodles for their population.

[ODERVIT]

I think that the Ukrainians despaired of some truncated repair option, because it is neither possible nor legal to organize an average repair, and even a major overhaul without maintenance and components of the manufacturer’s plant (NZ named after Chkalov). The plane is really not easy in flight, and in ground operation. Although experience has shown that the plane is not bad. For five years in the regiment there were no accidents or worse ... There were incidents, but more than on other types. The big question is whether they have trained pilots and navigators. And finally, the engineering staff should have a huge experience of work, which is the development of an aiming and navigation kit. Experience tells me nothing good for them, as always fails.

[air wolf]

New targets for our associates!

[sgr291158]

And how much they fly after repair.

[Wolka]

well, for the militias again the next opening of the autumn hunting for flying game, MANPADS are ready ...