Russia may lose Kaliningrad

The idea expressed by President Medvedev during the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum to create the Moscow federal district seemed to inflame the local parliamentarians ’imagination. While Moscow is pondering ways to implement the "construction of the century", in the most western Russian region they are already rushing to take an example. True, peculiar.


Kaliningrad lawmakers prepared a draft version of the draft law on granting this region the status of a federal district or a separate federal territory right for the visit of the head of state. Now, I recall, this area is part of the North-West Federal District, although it is separated from it geographically, as well as from Russia. In the very fact of a physical (but not state!) Department, we suppose there is nothing extraordinary. Alaska is geographically separated from the United States in the same way (some islands from Russia and the United States are not counted, they are not separated by states), but it is difficult to imagine a situation where Governor Sarah Palin submits to Barack Obama a “petition” about a separate state status. The creativity of our other local legislators is simply fascinating.

Thus, the regional deputy Solomon Ginzburg, who belongs to the group of developers of the draft law, decided to go beyond the simple separation of the Kaliningrad region from Russia and proposed ... unilaterally to cancel entry visas to the territory of the Kaliningrad region. Here a completely reasonable question arises: does Ginzburg perceive Kaliningrad land as part of Russia? If so, then it turns out that a separate deputy in all seriousness (and, as is supposed a priori, in his right mind and good memory) actually suggests abolishing entry visas to Russia as such. Strong! I recall, of course, that similar ideas were repeatedly voiced, in particular, by Prime Minister Vladimir Putin. But being a prime minister, not a deputy of the regional legislative assembly! And it is clearly not unilaterally, when Russia cancels entry visas for the EU, but the EU for Russia - by no means.

But it seems that the authors of the bill do not conceal their intentions to make the Kaliningrad region actually sovereign, although on paper they denote this as streamlined as possible. Otherwise, how then can the following explanation given to Nezavisimaya Gazeta be interpreted: they say, separating the region from the rest of Russia will help “protect the local business from the flow of departmental instructions that prevent Kaliningrad’s economy from developing”?

Of course, one should pay tribute to the almost childlike sincerity of the authors of the document. It inevitably refreshes in its memory the speeches of party bosses from the then Soviet republics at the dawn of “new Russia”. This was the forerunner of the ever-memorable “parade of sovereignties”, which the (sovereignty) republics took (each for themselves) as much as they could carry. And they talked about the same with almost the same words: departmental instructions then oh, how farms were to the farms on the ground! Sovereignty received, and then as soon realized it, gasped ... but it was already late.

Déjà vu in politics is a familiar thing. History generally spiraling, and "nothing is new in the sublunary world." With President Medvedev during his visit to Kaliningrad, the idea of ​​a separate federal district with sovereign ambitions, as can be judged, has not yet been pronounced in detail. The President, as befits the head of state, received a naval parade, and the road to the magnificent motorcade was decorated with freshly painted facades of houses ... That is, everything is according to the classics. But someone still can not wait to twist the spiral of history.

Aleksey Mukhin, General Director of the Center for Political Information, in an interview with the KM.RU columnist, gave a general assessment of the initiative of the Kaliningrad deputies regarding the isolation of the region:

- This initiative of the Kaliningrad legislators is objectively unjustified. I believe that in the end it will be judged at the top as inappropriate. At the same time, I think that both the Prime Minister’s office and the President’s Office perfectly understand the concern of the Kaliningrad authorities about the need to give the region a special status. Recently, the population in the Kaliningrad region had difficulties in obtaining European visas and a number of others. These difficulties are known to all, only the acquired status of the federal district is unlikely to be able to resolve them.

I suspect that the interest here is above all, of course, monetary, since the creation of a new federal district implies, among other things, the allocation of additional funds, including for the support of the officials of this region, so in this light their concern is also understandable. But another thing is that this will inevitably fall as another burden on the federal budget, and I think that Finance Minister Kudrin will clearly not be delighted.

- According to the thought of one of the Kaliningrad parliamentarians, Solomon Ginzburg, the Kaliningrad region would not be a bad thing to unilaterally cancel entry visas for EU countries, that is, regardless of Russia. As if this is not a separate federal district, but already a separate state.

- The fact of the matter is that any direction towards the sovereignization of this territory has its own pitfalls. This process will certainly be supported by some interested parties in the same Germany, in Poland, in the Baltic countries. In one way or another, they are interested in the fact that the Kaliningrad region will eventually become more and more separated from Russia. The Baltic countries initially critically assessed Russia's right to the Kaliningrad region, so that any form of sovereignization of this region would certainly be perceived by them rather as a joy.

At the same time, I suspect that ideas of this kind are deliberately thrown into the information space just on the eve of the electoral cycle, with the simple goal of simply increasing the references to some politicians and at the same time proving to Moscow that everything is okay But judging objectively, such initiatives ultimately lead only to undermining statehood and simply worsen the connection of this territory with the "mainland".
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  1. raf
    raf 3 August 2011 11: 36 New
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    Such creeps must be stopped in the bud! All Kaliningrad deputies to Kolyma, graze the penguins! (joke). Jokes and jokes, but you need to think.
  2. MKALEKSEY
    MKALEKSEY 3 August 2011 13: 06 New
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    Again Jews stir something up
  3. datur 3 August 2011 13: 20 New
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    first visa and then rename königsberg and Germany ....
  4. SAVA
    SAVA 3 August 2011 14: 36 New
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    Their whole history of mankind (Ginsburg, Mandelstam T. D) byut like a dog to indicate that they are not the SMART A SO STUPID THAT THEY CAN NOT EVEN UNDERSTAND THIS, MORE clever three millennia it probably RECORD goofy Previous AGREE WITH koment. NOT BY JEWS THEY WOULD NOT CONQUERED BY THEM AND BEEN DISPATCHED. AND SO ALWAYS THE SLAVES WORK LIVING HIMSELF PEACEFULLY AND THEY DO NOT SAY UNDERSTANDING OR ORDERING WHEN ALREADY ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS BE ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS RESERVE ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALLOW. AFTER PILLS)))))))))))) Although I personally did not have anything against the Jews, I couldn’t just consider others to be idiots !!!
  5. Max79 3 August 2011 15: 30 New
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    It’s already ooh ... li. Where is the normal president? All the Jews in Israel !!!! Get out of here ... B ... are the Jews already sharing our lands?
  6. datur 3 August 2011 16: 06 New
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    Max79, and look at the current guarantor of costuition, distributing everything to everyone.
    1. Max79 3 August 2011 17: 09 New
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      datur,
      I’ll repeat it again. I didn’t go to the polls for fundamental reasons, this time I’ll fly a bullet !!! I feel there is no other way out. Liberasts all and everybody squandered “If there was no war” Dima dismissed drooling. Only with a stiff and strong hand you can point order, another is unacceptable.
  7. Kazakh 3 August 2011 16: 49 New
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    again, the Jews overthrows in the ass
  8. mitrich
    mitrich 3 August 2011 17: 25 New
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    Yes, garbage is all ... What are you getting on a similar get along! SOLOMON repeat GINZBURG repeat scared our strong forum users recourse ?! You never know what this weaver weaves ...
    I have not yet found any evidence of the transfer by Russia of two Avar villages to Azerbaijan (except for screaming in the media), and you worry about Kaliningrad. A lot of all the foolishness is printed in I-net.
    1. svvaulsh
      svvaulsh 3 August 2011 17: 59 New
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      http://www.kamenka-lan.ru/index.php?name=komsomolka&op=ssylka&den=14.08.2008&id=
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      Mitrich, as promised.
      1. svvaulsh
        svvaulsh 3 August 2011 18: 17 New
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        http://images.yandex.ru/yandsearch?text=%D1%83%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%8B%D0%B5%20%
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        1. Superduck
          Superduck 3 August 2011 18: 50 New
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          Yes, hell there you will understand who it is, it is burnt all over, the face too, the African can often be identified by the specific shape of the nose, and then not all, the northern ones can have a quite Caucasian nose, and even this lips burned out.
          Anyway, I don’t remember anything that Russia would give the bodies of their citizens to the Baltic states, Ukraine and the USA. If only they were then believe me - this would be done under the gun of all cameras channels without options.
  9. datur 3 August 2011 17: 37 New
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    mitrich, and the transfer of territories of Norway. little bit there is rather big
  10. mitrich
    mitrich 3 August 2011 18: 01 New
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    Datur
    It’s hard for me, not a specialist, to write right away what Russia acquired and what it lost under an agreement with Norway. I know for sure only 2 things: 1) this dispute is long-standing, post-war, and 2) we are talking about the division of fishing areas.
    If there is a dock forum, such as FIGWAM, which cartographically shows our territorial losses under the contract, if any, it will be interesting.
    But we have a third of Svalbard - a good bone in the Norwegian throat (land is much more valued if there is something to get on it).
    1. Superduck
      Superduck 3 August 2011 19: 13 New
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      here is a diagram like a copy from the contract
      http://s02.radikal.ru/i175/1103/26/292559af5301.jpg
      Here is the processed version http://www.kommersant.ru/ISSUES.PHOTO/DAILY/2010/075/_2010d075-01-01.jpg

      Russia lost the rights to approximately 90 thousand square kilometers, i.e. type divided the disputed territory in half, this is the official version, which does not agree with the expert. If we are talking about the fact that the water area is divided according to international law, then the Norwegians claimed this right, then they divided the entire water area in half, i.e. the Norwegians received all 175 thousand disputed kilometers and Russia didn’t really get nichrome except legalizing its zone.
      Russia acquired a lot (if we are talking about the division of the disputed zone), there is naturally oil and gas, but production in the disputed territory was actually blocked, now in theory it can be extracted, although in the Barents it is of course for the future, the cost is more there than in Siberia on the land.
  11. mitrich
    mitrich 3 August 2011 18: 34 New
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    SWAULSH,
    does not open. Is the Negro an accurate address?
    1. svvaulsh
      svvaulsh 3 August 2011 18: 52 New
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      Copy without changes. Do you have any filters? In general, I found two photos and one video, but not the site I was talking about. Like niggas. Most likely Amer Georgian instructors.
    2. Superduck
      Superduck 3 August 2011 18: 55 New
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      http://s47.radikal.ru/i117/0808/96/123f9c55f0ad.jpg
      try it like this
  12. jamert
    jamert 4 August 2011 00: 09 New
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    Yes figs there. Fritz Kaliningrad does not need nafig. And who else will look at him?
  13. Svyatoslav
    Svyatoslav 4 August 2011 03: 26 New
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    Solomon Ginzburg - deputy of the Kaliningrad region. That says it all!
  14. Winnie the Pooh
    Winnie the Pooh 4 August 2011 14: 13 New
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    I am a Kaliningrader. Here is a novice. I can not disagree with many comments. Who is the author of the imperious "Guard of separatism"? Surely a mega-analyst from the Moscow office and so on. Therefore, everything in order:
    1. About politics. Answer the questions: “Who (not counting foreign guests) in the regional Duma and Legislative Assembly does not have the majority of EP? “Do you seriously think that local cells of the majority party can make body movements inconsistent with the vertical?” International issues generally do not fall within the competence of the constituent entities of the federation (see the Constitution), but since the voters are concerned about this issue, the Duma and the local authorities are forced to somehow react to the opinion of the people. The history of the past governor of Boos, who left the level of protest moods a year ago, does not allow them to hammer a bolt on the electorate.
  15. Winnie the Pooh
    Winnie the Pooh 4 August 2011 14: 14 New
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    I am a Kaliningrader. Here is a novice. I can not disagree with many comments. Who is the author of the imperious "Guard of separatism"? Surely a mega-analyst from the Moscow office and so on. Therefore, everything in order:
    1. About politics. Answer the questions: “Who (not counting foreign guests) in the regional Duma and Legislative Assembly does not have the majority of EP? “Do you seriously think that local cells of the majority party can make body movements inconsistent with the vertical?” International issues generally do not fall within the competence of the constituent entities of the federation (see the Constitution), but since the voters are concerned about this issue, the Duma and the local authorities are forced to somehow react to the opinion of the people. The history of the past governor of Boos, who left the level of protest moods a year ago, does not allow them to hammer a bolt on the electorate.
  16. Winnie the Pooh
    Winnie the Pooh 4 August 2011 14: 15 New
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    2. Now on the merits of the visa issue. He is turned upside down by the author. The question is not about canceling visas for foreigners entering the region, but first of all for canceling visas for Russian citizens - residents of the region. Dear colleagues (again, not counting foreign guests), answer the question: “How many of you need to get the consent of the NATO country (Lithuania) in order to travel to Russia (!) By train to the grave of my grandfather? Or buy a Schengen in order to take a child by car to Pskov and show Izborsk fortress, Pechery? ” Uv. Daur, do you need a visa to show your boy the village, river, city where you spent your childhood? And I do not need, but I and 937 thousand Russians have to live like this. Is there no need to explain about the luxury of an airplane for a simple ex-servant, teacher or petty official?
  17. Winnie the Pooh
    Winnie the Pooh 4 August 2011 14: 15 New
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    3. About the Jews. Nat I do not discuss the issue in principle, but there is an exception. Based on paragraph 2, it is obvious that the Jews have nothing to do with it. The author of the article is very soft to say - outright. In addition to Ginzburg, there are many other people in the Duma, moreover, the idea was not conveyed to the president by Ginzburg (by the way, an opposition deputy), but by a governor with the surname Tsukanov. This info in public network resources. But Mr. Martynyuk chose exactly Solomon !!! What for???? I hope the answer is obvious and some, sorry, pecked ....
  18. Winnie the Pooh
    Winnie the Pooh 4 August 2011 14: 37 New
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    4. A lot can be written about the economy. Who cares, only part of the problems on the example of a strategic object - the port economy is here: http://rugrad.eu/interview/437689/
    5. Conclusions: the state is not very concerned about the problems of its citizens, which are the competence of the state !!!
    So just now they were planning to build a nuclear power plant near my house, without asking me any more. And they plan to supply electric energy only over the hill, we have enough of ours. Total: the money for the sale in RAO UES and the crap shit to my son. Can any of you need this happiness?
  19. Winnie the Pooh
    Winnie the Pooh 4 August 2011 14: 39 New
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    5. Conclusions: I expect a recommendation in the style of: do not like it, go somewhere else. But no dear! Personal patriotism begins here: I was born here, my son was born here, my house is here, there are a lot of personal things ... There are almost 937 thousand of us (well, minus those without which no family can manage). National and state ownership of a piece of land is determined by the people who live on it. Here we have Russia, and the number of retired or reserve per square meter is more than anywhere else, so all the hysteria and concerns about the loss are nonsense. Martynyuk has nothing to lose along the way, but we have.
    From SW.
  20. Nadin
    Nadin 7 October 2011 19: 55 New
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    It seems that any attacks that sow nationalist hostility are prohibited on the site, then what do they write about S. Ginzburg? This, incidentally, is a very respected person and the irony is not appropriate here. .All of his proposals are shared by the majority of the residents of Kaliningrad, they are generated by the conditions of our foreign life. Do you want to admit it or not, but our region is really foreign, look at the map. Insulting Ginzburg, you insult us all.
  21. Nadin
    Nadin 7 October 2011 20: 37 New
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    And, I would like to know who is Martyunyuk Victor?

    Then I repeat: Mr. Ginzburg, a respected person in Kaliningrad who expresses the aspirations of the entire Kaliningrad region. I think that the insults and some irony addressed to him are an attempt to achieve a specific goal, namely, to present the aspirations and wishes of all the inhabitants of the region as the desire and desire of one deputy of the Kaliningrad regional Duma.