Same mistakes

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Same mistakes


A quarter of a century ago, Gorbachev issued a decree on the withdrawal of Soviet troops from Afghanistan, today the Americans are on this path - direct coincidences with our days are astounding.

The former president of the Soviet Union, Mikhail Gorbachev, besides everything else, is a man whom Hans-Magnus Enzensberger (writer) called the “hero of retreat”: he looks like Shakespeare's heroes, he is a man who knows when it is necessary to step aside from power. or completely leave her. That is how he advises the current major world politicians. For example, Barack Obama. He supported Obama’s intention to withdraw the US Army from Afghanistan. In the Hindu Kush war "it is impossible to win". Mikhail Gorbachev became aware of the consequences and obstacles of this kind of retreat — 25 will mark this Thursday since the day when the former president, in his speech on Vladivostok’s foreign and domestic policy, partially ordered the withdrawal of Soviet troops from Afghanistan, and in 1989, troops were completely withdrawn from the country.

The NATO bloc, which decided on the withdrawal of US troops before 2014, repeats all the mistakes made by the Soviet army. In fact, a huge number of similarities, according to Konrad Schetter from the Bonn Center for the Study of Development Problems, is strongly striking. The most noticeable: both invasions began with the thought of the possibility of cultural, economic and political modernization of Afghanistan, both times it ended in failure. “Believing that people could be changed by sitting at the table and drawing board was a delusion,” says Shetter. Russia, in his opinion, was able to comprehend it much faster. But neither then nor now it is recognized that although a well-armed and skillful army practically cannot successfully resist the underground and partisan tactics used by the Taliban. Both the leadership of the USSR in 80-years, and international forces in this century have difficulties with the withdrawal of troops: "First, the date is not called for a long time, and then suddenly all the mechanisms turn on, and it seems that it is necessary to withdraw the troops as soon as possible", - The Bonn expert of Afghanistan noted. The reasons are immediately visible. The society of coalition countries is not yet ready for the fact that it will have to bear this heavy burden for a long time. Because of their losses, because of the huge number of civilians killed, with the result that their troops seem to be occupiers. It is also because, in the war in Afghanistan, more than twenty billion US dollars per month are spent in the United States alone. “Financial embezzlement has become too large, and it did not play an extreme role in the collapse of the USSR,” said Shetter. “It is interesting to see where this situation will lead the Americans.”

Also in the Hindu Kush country, Shetter does not imply any optimistic tomorrow. As Soviets, international forces are increasingly using the local police prepared by them in the war against opponents. The effect in all cases, according to Shetter, will be the same in everything - the militarized society of Afghanistan, to whose members, apart from the war, little is known. "There is a great danger lurking here - a fully armed Afghanistan can once again plunge into a civil war."

Because of this, the central question, according to Shetter, is how international participation will be after the army leaves Afghanistan. “Will it be possible to help Karzai or his successor in such a way that stability begins and something like a state is created - or will the country burn from the inside when the money stops flowing?” Without a constructive role, first of all of Pakistan, but also of Iran, all the forces spent on creating a lasting peace will be wasted.

Shetter connected his dreams only with the ability of the Afghan people to learn, but also with the recently established, in the initial stage, civil society. His representatives, shetter says, most likely “realized that improvements should not be expected outside: now they understand, they must understand that changes for the better will begin only when people themselves take control of the situation”.
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  1. Michael
    +4
    2 August 2011 11: 04
    Not a word for the hunchback (Airborne Forces holiday), but if Lavrov climbed the mountain with a couple of bearded spirits and pointed his finger towards Pindostan and talked about the empire of goodness and justice (while promising a mountain of all "smart" weapons), I would say that the country has become adequate and does not cave in to situations that were not created for it, which has the core and the prospect of being a State with a capital letter.
    1. +1
      2 August 2011 11: 27
      exactly!
    2. pavelk
      0
      2 August 2011 18: 07
      Well said, it’s time to get there a couple of dozen MANPADS. You know Romadan))
      1. Superduck
        +1
        2 August 2011 18: 18
        Well, yes, in the 80s the Americans "helped" us with stingers there, and we will help :-)
  2. Stefano
    0
    2 August 2011 11: 26
    The Americans will soon leave Afgan as well as we "have nothing".
  3. 0
    2 August 2011 19: 05
    The Americans, in opposition to us, created the Taliban, which then rode over them, and is now at war with them .... Maybe also create some kind of movement? And to arm him from "independent" Tajikistan, for example ...
  4. 0
    2 August 2011 21: 13
    Superduck,
    Well, yes, the Americans in the 80s "helped" us with stingers there, and we will help: -) --- in the open it is not necessary through someone or for the warehouse to burn down with needles. like that. it would be fun to look at the Pindos.
    1. Superduck
      0
      2 August 2011 21: 16
      Well, sell to the Tajiks, and those who are despicable are stolen by drug dealers.
  5. PIRATE
    +1
    3 August 2011 08: 23
    And what they wanted, that they would come and in a month they would have their own power there, they had seen enough movies.
  6. -1
    3 August 2011 09: 27
    MANPADS speak?
    America will leave Afaginistan for itself across the ocean, and the Taliban and other "freedom fighters" will remain at the borders of Russia and God forbid, they will have to rename the Pyanj border guard detachment into limited coningent. recourse
    1. SAVA
      -2
      3 August 2011 10: 01
      So be it, during which time I will try to long-held belief that the country FORMER USSR Afghans ENEMIES and good market for drugs THAT would be nice to take under its control Are, and that would be not to make DISASTER Slavs AGAIN WILL PROTECT outskirts of the former USSR and the local in BYPASS caught WILL CONDUCT CARAVANS WITH "GOODS", AND THE WHOLE CHAIN ​​WILL EARN WITH NEW STRENGTH AFGHANIANS - PRODUCERS, TAJIKI - COURIERS, COPS, GYPS AND OTHER CHURKOTNYA - REALIZERS, SAVE CHILDREN
      1. Superduck
        0
        3 August 2011 10: 05
        The Panj border detachment there is not quite an assembly from drug trafficking, it seems to me.
  7. SAVA
    -1
    3 August 2011 11: 45
    WE CAN DISPUTE AS MUCH APPOINTING AND WHAT ANY OFFICE ORGANIZER WITH RURAL CIRCUMSTIVITY AND PROVINCIAL GRAVITY IS ALWAYS GIVEN OR CLOSED EYES FOR AN EXPRESS VIOLATION OF THE BORDER OR SOMETHING
    1. Superduck
      +1
      3 August 2011 11: 48
      Absolutely right.
      I have a friend of the border guard who wanted to go to Abkhazia to serve, transfer from the Ukrainian border. 4000 bucks for a transfer were made for a bribe. Well, you won’t surprise anyone with this, but it also means that these grandmas need to be beat off somehow, otherwise it makes sense to pay them.
      1. SAVA
        0
        3 August 2011 12: 35
        IT MEANS SOME "BUSINESS" THERE THROWS, AND SO EVERYWHERE, THAT IS SO A NATION AND DECOMPOSITES WITHOUT PATRIOTISM AND IN RUSSIA, ONLY FUCKING HIS WORKS QUIETLY DOES. AND WHAT WE PUT OF THESE ALL CHURCHES IN OUR LIFE WE ARE DIFFERENT AT THE END OF THE ENDS THEY LIKE RIDING ON DONKEYS SO WITH THEM AND DON'T FOLLOW HER TV AND WE WERE THEY HAVE ENOUGH WITH THEIR TOLERANCE, THEY ARE SENDING THE GYPS, THEN THE MINARETS ARE FORBIDDEN TO BUILD, NOW THE ASSOCIATES OF THE MUSLIMS ARE FIRED, AND WITH THIS WE ARE TRYING) THAT)
  8. Oleg
    0
    3 August 2011 12: 47
    Why are blacks gloves?
    1. Superduck
      0
      3 August 2011 15: 23
      I think that they are from the so-called ballistic nylon plus level the slippery of the fingers when fogging the hands. I’ve seen something like this on airsoft players.