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Russia can begin full-scale exploration of the moon in the next decade.

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The head of Roscosmos, Oleg Ostapenko, said that a full-scale moon exploration program was scheduled for the next decade.

Russia can begin full-scale exploration of the moon in the next decade.


“At the end of the next decade, we are planning to complete the test of a super-heavy-class launch vehicle and begin full-scale exploration of the moon. By this time, based on the results of the study of the lunar surface by automatic spacecraft, the most promising places for the landing of lunar landings and the deployment of lunar bases will be determined, ”RIA said. "News".

He also noted that a new manned spacecraft is already being designed, which “will become the first element of a promising manned system, along with new launch vehicles — launch vehicles of heavy and super heavy classes”.

According to Ostapenko, in the near future, the draft federal space program for 2016-2025 will be approved, which will determine the direction and goals of the development of the rocket and space sector of the Russian Federation.

“This program, its formation is almost completed, we are completing the coordination stage and in the near future it will be submitted for approval,” he said.

It is worth noting that Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin said that Russia needs to be as pragmatic as possible in matters of space exploration. In his opinion, it is necessary to reconsider the feasibility of further development of manned space flight in the international aspect.

“We have to determine for ourselves what we are doing next. I would like to hear your opinion on whether it makes sense for us to continue working in the framework of manned cosmonautics in the international aspect, or it’s time for us to develop a purely national project, ”he stressed.
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  1. mackonya
    mackonya 24 September 2014 10: 55
    +7
    And in the censor.net they still attributed it as if the lunar program for the extraction of minerals and water on the moon, that’s how stupid they are trying to imagine.
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 24 September 2014 10: 59
      +6
      Quote: mackonya
      lunar program for the extraction of minerals and water on the moon

      Of course, that is why a heavy-class LV is being developed in order to send several KAMAZ dump trucks and two excavators to the Moon.
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 24 September 2014 11: 04
        +11
        to send several KAMAZ dump trucks and two excavators to the moon.

        In the future, KAMAZ may have to start designing such machines. If they find on the moon that for which it is worth carrying heavy equipment there.
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 24 September 2014 11: 15
          +3
          Quote: Wedmak
          In the future, KAMAZ may have to start designing such machines. If they find on the moon that for which it is worth carrying heavy equipment there.


          lunar DAKAR ...
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      4. Very old
        Very old 24 September 2014 12: 35
        +1
        Vladimir: ... send to the moon several KAMAZ dump trucks and two excavators

        And send all this simple technique to our city - remove centuries-old garbage and take it to hell
        State budget - he really is not a contraceptive

        USSR 1971 - Your Truth
    2. USSR 1971
      USSR 1971 24 September 2014 11: 05
      +24
      The development of the moon is certainly good, but first you need to master the central regions of Russia at a distance of 150 km from Moscow and other major cities. Gos. the budget must not be rubber. It will soon be possible for us to fight for our homeland a little closer than on the moon. Russians are killed every day not in space, but on the border with the Rostov region. And the mess with the Nemtsov and Makarevich is also not on the moon. Earthly problems are enough, if they are not resolved then the moon rovers are already unnecessary. And in space programs to direct efforts to defense.
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 24 September 2014 11: 10
        +3
        The development of the moon is certainly good, but first you need to master the central regions of Russia at a distance of 150 km from Moscow and other major cities.

        What does it mean to master? Are there no roads or what? No crops? Or beyond the Moscow Ring Road bare steppe / tundra / forest for thousands of kilometers? It seems that you didn’t ride the train for a while.

        And the mess with the Nemtsov and Makarevich is also not on the moon.

        Do you propose to score on all high-tech industries and start the fight against Nemtsov and Makarevich?
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 24 September 2014 11: 19
          +4
          Quote: Wedmak
          Offer to score on all high-tech industries and start the fight against Nemtsov and Makarevich


          why not combine it. attract so to speak to build a liberal model of life and governance on the moon ... in ...
          1. Wedmak
            Wedmak 24 September 2014 11: 23
            +2
            why not combine it. attract so to speak to build a liberal model of life and governance on the moon ... in ...

            Uh ... I don't recommend it. On Earth, they cannot adequately express their claims. All you can hear is "Putin down" and "Let's change everything." Why down with what and what to change - they do not specify.
          2. Eugenenl
            Eugenenl 24 September 2014 11: 44
            +2
            Quote: vorobey
            why not combine it. attract so to speak to build a liberal model of life and governance on the moon ... in ...

            Well, why should the moon be immediately desecrated? Let the forest felled or ore mined ...
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          1. Andrey Yuryevich
            Andrey Yuryevich 24 September 2014 11: 25
            +3
            Quote: vorobey
            Quote: Wedmak
            Offer to score on all high-tech industries and start the fight against Nemtsov and Makarevich


            why not combine it. attract so to speak to build a liberal model of life and governance on the moon ... in ...

            and Makar with the song: we walked in such a way that you won’t reach it very much ... it’s going to develop the virgin soil! laughing
        3. USSR 1971
          USSR 1971 24 September 2014 11: 23
          +8
          There are roads, but not everywhere, and such that only tanks can be driven along them, there is agriculture, only crushed by taxes, steppe / tundra / forest for thousands of kilometers available (there is 100% information on the geography of our country in the public domain), "to score on all high-tech industries" - in no case, just do not plan to cut into virtual projects in a difficult time for the country, a lot of money will be spent on defense and import substitution, I work in the defense industry, so I am a little in the subject. And the fifth column must be pressed mercilessly until they reach their Maidans. Three years ago, riot police were driving around Bolotnaya, thank God it is not Yanukovych who commands them.
          1. Wedmak
            Wedmak 24 September 2014 11: 31
            +4
            By spending lunar money on road construction and agriculture, we will not achieve much.
            There are always few roads, crops can always be increased. As a result, China and the United States will be on the Moon, with proven technologies for interplanetary manned flights, and we will ride on the autobahns and enjoy the wheat crop. And yes ... and to stain the swamps in the taiga.
            Cool. China and the United States mine Li-3 on the moon, launch thermonuclear reactors, and in Russia .. as usual, they sit on a beautiful road, sinter a potbelly stove with hay.
            1. Letun
              Letun 24 September 2014 13: 24
              -1
              Quote: Wedmak
              Cool. China and the United States mine Li-3 on the moon, launch thermonuclear reactors, and in Russia .. as usual, they sit on a beautiful road, sinter a potbelly stove with hay.

              In short, we hear a ringing, but we don’t know where it is ... Actually, the presence of Helium-3 is assumed on the Moon. It is he who is needed as nuclear fuel. In general, the level of education of dreamers flying in the clouds you showed very clearly.
              1. Wedmak
                Wedmak 24 September 2014 13: 37
                0
                I apologize, of course Helium-3. But deuterium and tritium are still used as nuclear fuel, and helium is the product of their reaction. And Helium-3 is needed not quite for the reaction, but as I understand it, for its stabilization.
        4. Letun
          Letun 24 September 2014 11: 23
          0
          Quote: Wedmak
          What does it mean to master? Are there no roads or what? No crops? Or beyond the Moscow Ring Road bare steppe / tundra / forest for thousands of kilometers? It seems that you didn’t ride the train for a while.

          150 km from major cities? You will probably be surprised, but there really are no crops there. The fields are already overgrown not even with weeds, but with a three-meter birch.
          The roads? Well, except for federal highways, it’s hard to call the roads between the district centers and the remaining villages.
          It seems that you are only on trains and ride, and you did not have the opportunity to move away from the railway stations at least a couple of kilometers.
          1. Wedmak
            Wedmak 24 September 2014 11: 34
            +2
            It seems that you are only on trains and ride, and you did not have the opportunity to move away from the railway stations at least a couple of kilometers.

            Well why. And even I drive a car. On country roads. And I observe quite well-groomed melons fields, fish factories, etc. Our land is like that. And the roads ... you need to steal less, that's all. Until we destroy this thirst for profit, all the lunar, Marsan and other infusions will appear in the form of brand new Land Rovers at the shtetl heads.
          2. Vladimirets
            Vladimirets 24 September 2014 11: 40
            +4
            Quote: Letun
            150 km from major cities? You will probably be surprised, but there really are no crops there. The fields are already overgrown not even with weeds, but with a three-meter birch.

            Well, why so categorically, everything is there, and crops, and birch trees. smile Those fields that were sown in the Union "through the navel", to increase the area, in all sorts of inconveniences, are now really abandoned. In the near Moscow region, many agricultural land was bought up by cunning people and, practically, are not cultivated. But most are sown, plowed and mowed. At least with us.
      2. asadov
        asadov 24 September 2014 11: 13
        +3
        I completely agree. And if all that he said is true, then let Nemtsov and K * be the first cosmonauts to fly to the moon. And it is desirable that with a one-way ticket - from there the scale of their activities will be more extensive and less unprofitable for us.
        1. Wedmak
          Wedmak 24 September 2014 11: 16
          0
          But not me. The scale of Nemtsov and KO. - bark from under the gate to a passing caravan with the steps of a heavy rocket. They have the very place in Siberia, to cut down the forest, at least something useful will be.
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 24 September 2014 11: 26
            0
            Quote: Wedmak
            They have the very place in Siberia, to cut down the forest,



            cruel you ... let the water dig up on the moon ... and romance and deed ... the forest in Siberia is prose ...

            remember how .... well, who would believe him that two naked opera in gas masks beat him during interrogation?

            so here ... moon .. Germans .. water .. shovel ..
            1. Wedmak
              Wedmak 24 September 2014 11: 39
              +1
              cruel you ... let them dig water on the moon ...

              And you, and you ... I don’t know directly how to express all your nanniness. laughing water .. on the moon ... dig .. with a shovel ... drinks To your health.
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          3. Starover_Z
            Starover_Z 24 September 2014 12: 34
            0
            Quote: Wedmak
            The scale of Nemtsov and KO. - bark from under the gate to a passing caravan with the steps of a heavy rocket. They have the very place in Siberia, to cut down the forest, at least something useful will be.
            Across Russia and without them enough felled forest to collect and transport there are not enough hands.
            Let this on Earth and do it, with the help of federal authorities!
            And moon exploration at this stage is the lot of specialists!
      3. Iskander Khan
        Iskander Khan 24 September 2014 11: 33
        0
        Just for the Makarevichs. There, if you do not like them in Russia. Let them rally there. Although lunatics feel sorry.
      4. vovan50
        vovan50 24 September 2014 11: 57
        +1
        Who will control the moon, he will control the Earth.
      5. Scoun
        Scoun 24 September 2014 12: 07
        +1
        Quote: USSR 1971
        Mastering the moon is certainly good

        How many such statements have already been? ))) announce the completion of the tests for 2019)))
        «At the end of the next decade We plan to complete the test of the superheavy class launch vehicle and begin full-scale exploration of the moon. By this time


        "By then or the donkey will die or the padishah. "... (one of the three of us will die - either the emir or the donkey or me ... ...) In the parable of Khoja Nasredin
      6. VICTOR-61
        VICTOR-61 24 September 2014 12: 16
        -2
        I agree that there are so many problems in Russia, and some throw money to the moon, I understand these figures want money for it, but rightly let ordinary people sit half-starving and finish some institutes without work and have nowhere to work, this is a problem and the moon will wait yes I'm sure there is nothing good there Yes, and a bunch of costs
        1. Wedmak
          Wedmak 24 September 2014 12: 23
          +2
          and rightly let ordinary people sit half-starving

          Facts please.
          and some institutions finish without work, but nowhere

          What for us so many managers and lawyers, when do we need engineers? Accustomed, actually doing nothing, get a lot of money. This is me about all sorts of managers and other office stuff .. not all of them, but most of them are striving for this.
    3. GSH-18
      GSH-18 24 September 2014 11: 23
      +4
      Quote: mackonya
      And in the censor.net they still attributed it as if the lunar program for the extraction of minerals and water on the moon, that’s how stupid they are trying to imagine.

      Rare elements He3, D2O, T2O in Russian-heavy hydrogen (as part of a water molecule) and heavy helium isotope are present in industrial quantities on the Moon (in lunar soil). These elements are a promising fuel of the fusion reactors (tokomak) of the future. Unlike the current nuclear, the energy release of these is much higher, and there is no radioactive waste (in the classical sense).
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 24 September 2014 11: 29
        +7
        Quote: GSH-18
        Rare elements He3, D2O, T2O in Russian-heavy hydrogen (as part of a water molecule) and heavy helium isotope are present in industrial quantities on the Moon (in lunar soil). These elements are a promising fuel of the fusion reactors (tokomak) of the future. Unlike the current nuclear, the energy release of these is much higher, and there is no radioactive waste (in the classical sense).



        everything .. I decided .. The moon is a continuation of the continental shelf of the Russian Federation ....

        Let the amer diarrhea begin ..
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 24 September 2014 11: 51
          +3
          Quote: vorobey
          . The moon is a continuation of the continental shelf of the Russian Federation ....

          The main thing is to give Chilingarov the task to put a flag there. smile
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      3. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre 24 September 2014 12: 14
        +5
        fusion reactors (tokomak)
        Sorry for the corrosiveness, but this word is written only in capital letters and only in this way: TOKAMAK. For this is an abbreviation for TOroidal Spacecraftmeasure s MAugly Кatoms.
        1. GSH-18
          GSH-18 28 September 2014 01: 45
          0
          Quote: abrakadabre
          Sorry for the corrosiveness, but this word is written only in capital letters and only in this way: TOKAMAK. For this is an abbreviation for TOroid Camera with Magnetic Coils.

          Pupil. Thank you for correcting yes
    4. Giant thought
      Giant thought 24 September 2014 11: 39
      +2
      In the future, work in space without mattresses, you can cooperate, for example, with the Chinese.
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    6. volot-voin
      volot-voin 24 September 2014 11: 43
      +1
      Quote: mackonya
      And in the censor.net they still attributed it as if the lunar program for the extraction of minerals and water on the moon, that’s how stupid they are trying to imagine.

      Joking as a joke, but if the Russian Federation does not begin to explore the near space, the Americans will do it. And Mr. Smoke them from there. I hope the times of Korolev-Gagarin did not rest in the Bose. It is time to already make a Russian real flight to the moon and further to Mars, instead of the Hollywood flight Apollo1.
  2. Ivan Petrovich
    Ivan Petrovich 24 September 2014 10: 55
    0
    crowed, and there at least the sun do not get up ...
  3. Balbes_I
    Balbes_I 24 September 2014 10: 57
    +2
    The priority of the sugonacinal is unequivocal, if anyone wants to join it only as a donor, and give them no one to steer.
    1. Vasily Pupkin
      Vasily Pupkin 24 September 2014 11: 46
      +1
      But this is correct, otherwise they stuck to our segment on the ISS
  4. Bakht
    Bakht 24 September 2014 10: 59
    +3
    The question is not so much in the exploration of the Moon, but in "does it make sense for us to continue working in the framework of manned space exploration in the international aspect, or is it time for us to develop a purely national project?"

    Whether or not there will be moon exploration, but international flights may collapse. Rogozin has repeatedly hinted that American astronauts can get to the ISS on foot.
    1. predator.3
      predator.3 24 September 2014 11: 24
      0
      Quote: Bakht
      that the American astronauts can reach the ISS on foot.

      Or on the footsteps of the Soyuz ... lol !
  5. Altona
    Altona 24 September 2014 11: 00
    +3
    Dear Editor!
    Maybe better - about the reactor?
    About your favorite moon tractor ?!
    After all, it’s impossible! - year in a row:
    That scare plates -
    Say, vile, fly;
    Then your dogs bark
    That ruins - they say!
    laughing
  6. Wedmak
    Wedmak 24 September 2014 11: 01
    0
    Well, that’s how they found application for the 5 and -7 Hangars. In the meantime, they will be built, light carriers will throw a couple of spacecraft on the moon. Yesterday only argued about the moon. wink At the same time we will see the American landings "close up".
  7. muginov2015
    muginov2015 24 September 2014 11: 03
    0
    Only who will let us go there. Amerikosov was kicked out, and we, too, will be kicked out. The moon has long been mastered and we are uninvited guests there.
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 24 September 2014 11: 05
      +3
      We will come with vodka and Tula gingerbread.
    2. inkass_98
      inkass_98 24 September 2014 11: 13
      -1
      Quote: muginov2015
      The moon has long been mastered and we are uninvited guests.

      Do you get messages directly from there? belay
      1. muginov2015
        muginov2015 24 September 2014 11: 36
        0
        And you directly receive messages from there


        Check out Richard Hochland's Dark Mission at your leisure.
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  8. inspection
    inspection 24 September 2014 11: 03
    +3
    And what hinders the development of Siberia, the Arctic, the Far East?
    1. sergeybulkin
      sergeybulkin 24 September 2014 11: 27
      0
      Precisely, the earth has not yet been mastered, but we’ll master the whole moon, Mars. Around devastation and they gathered on the moon! Maybe they want to run away?
    2. lelikas
      lelikas 24 September 2014 11: 50
      0
      Quote: Verification
      And what hinders the development of Siberia, the Arctic, the Far East?

      So it’s not interesting already. And then lunaaaaaa, romanceaaaaa.
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  10. saag
    saag 24 September 2014 11: 04
    0
    Well, the moon needs to be thrown an electromagnetic catapult, in order to put spacecraft into orbit from it
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 24 September 2014 11: 06
      0
      what In whose orbit?
  11. skylare
    skylare 24 September 2014 11: 06
    +1
    We master the moon to find and destroy the secret Ukrainian base on the shadow side.
  12. Diviz
    Diviz 24 September 2014 11: 07
    -3
    When we don’t have homeless people and paupers as they are involved in the program for the development of the moon, then money is not a pity. And yet another skolkovo and information about the moon only with rents can be found.
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 24 September 2014 11: 12
      +3
      And yet another skolkovo and information about the moon only with rents can be found.

      Yes, you can also watch TV for days, TV shows are more interesting there than exploring the world around us.
  13. Vend
    Vend 24 September 2014 11: 07
    +5
    One of two, for ours, found something on the Moon, or it is an informational sabotage, like a project of star wars. So that the US and the EU bought themselves and threw huge funds to create such a program. wink
    1. muginov2015
      muginov2015 24 September 2014 11: 32
      +1
      on the moon dofiga helium-3 kilograms of which will provide a year of life to the millionaire city. only a fusion reactor needs to be brought to mind. So there are prospects in economic terms.
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  14. fennekRUS
    fennekRUS 24 September 2014 11: 08
    +2
    The head of Roscosmos Oleg Ostapenko said ...- having read the headline, he thought at Rogozin. Well, apparently idle talk is contagious.
    1. lelikas
      lelikas 24 September 2014 11: 54
      0
      Quote: fennekRUS
      Well, apparently idle talk is contagious.

      Well, why just idle talk?
      Russia can really start building moon rockets, aircraft carriers, landing ships, roads are good, and, theoretically, I can have sex with Angelina Jolie - because I have everything for this by nature.
  15. rugor
    rugor 24 September 2014 11: 09
    +3
    Why aren’t the specific objectives of the lunar program formulated or at least not communicated to the general public ???
    The people should understand why we are exploring the moon and not the Far East!
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 24 September 2014 11: 14
      0
      Why aren’t the specific objectives of the lunar program formulated or at least not communicated to the general public ???

      Maybe because the program is still in development?
      The people should understand why we are exploring the moon and not the Far East!

      The people for the most part do not care for the moon and the Far East. They are more interested in events at House-2 (he is still going on, right?).
  16. Aslan
    Aslan 24 September 2014 11: 13
    0
    I won’t be surprised if our gingerbread men are met by the Chinese in spacesuits strongly reminiscent of Soviet ones, and with faces full of happiness.
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 24 September 2014 11: 17
      0
      The Chinese are even more adequate than the Americans.
  17. Aslan
    Aslan 24 September 2014 11: 13
    0
    I won’t be surprised if our gingerbread men are met on the Moon by the Chinese in spacesuits strongly reminiscent of Soviet ones, and with faces full of happiness.
  18. e_krendel
    e_krendel 24 September 2014 11: 16
    +4
    First of all, we need to drop new Lunokhods to the places where Amer flags should stick out, well, just in case, check to see if anything wink
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 24 September 2014 11: 20
      +1
      I have an idea that as soon as ours get there, the Americans will make claims on the possession of the Moon, because they got there first. This will be their highest arrogance. And maybe the last one.
      1. lelikas
        lelikas 24 September 2014 12: 03
        +3
        Quote: Wedmak
        And maybe the last one.


        The morning of October 8, the rumpled Putin enters the office -
        -Kozhugetych, how did it end yesterday?
        - Third world?
        - Why all of a sudden?
        -We sat, noted, you went to the toilet, and Dimon grabbed a pointer and let's poke -Russia is big and America is small, then you came back and rubbed your hands saying -
        - Well, * bang a little ......
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  19. ISKANDER25
    ISKANDER25 24 September 2014 11: 19
    0
    Hello! The moon is certainly good, but you can really spend such enormous money on Earth, but even in the same ARCTIC! And then, after all, like "partners" are not asleep! THANKS! hi
  20. maxxdesign
    maxxdesign 24 September 2014 11: 20
    +1
    bases on the moon are useful not only for the extraction of resources .. from the moon it is more efficient to make launches to distant planets ... as from a springboard ... flew to the moon, refueled .. and started further ... to Mars, for example
  21. morpogr
    morpogr 24 September 2014 11: 20
    +2
    If this has a positive effect on science and industry, there will be development and breakthroughs, then why not.
  22. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 24 September 2014 11: 27
    +2
    Now the championship in the Lunar program does not matter. Those who seriously begin to explore the moon will dominate in the near space.
  23. Tamod
    Tamod 24 September 2014 11: 27
    +1
    Damn, make me roads in the area at least in the next decade, and then 30 years without asphalt is somehow not ok.)
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 24 September 2014 11: 41
      0
      Contact your local chapter. He doesn’t drive an Mercedes AMG?
  24. Klim2011
    Klim2011 24 September 2014 11: 28
    +2
    Lunar bases are cool, that's just the money of the Russian Federation goes to Abramovich and Rutenberg, and for doctors at the clinic for diabetics, a month’s appointment with the doctor without a guarantee of admission. Projecting and posturing, no more. IMHO
  25. Serega125
    Serega125 24 September 2014 11: 29
    0
    Money is being poured into any garbage, it would be better if they were let into salaries and pensions.
  26. Iskander Khan
    Iskander Khan 24 September 2014 11: 29
    0
    I also like this idea:
  27. father nikon
    father nikon 24 September 2014 11: 35
    +2
    “At the end of the next decade, we plan to complete the test of the superheavy class launch vehicle and begin full-scale exploration of the moon. By this time, based on the results of a study of the lunar surface by automatic spacecraft, the most promising places for the landing of lunar landings and the deployment of lunar bases will be determined ”

    Missiles only on the reactive principle of motion have no future in space exploration. I consider it necessary to further develop an aircraft with alternative principles of action winked
    1. muginov2015
      muginov2015 24 September 2014 11: 39
      +1
      Father Nikon


      For example, on lamp traction, or even cooler, with God's help. But seriously, please specify.
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    3. Wedmak
      Wedmak 24 September 2014 11: 45
      0
      Ours recently tested a new ion engine. There is no other alternative yet.
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      2. muginov2015
        muginov2015 24 September 2014 12: 01
        0
        the thrust of the ionic dvigla is calculated in grams. for motion in space - just right for nanosatellites, for launching into orbit, large-scale maneuvers in space are unrealistic.
        1. Wedmak
          Wedmak 24 September 2014 12: 12
          +2
          maneuvers in space of large masses is unrealistic.

          It depends on what maneuvers. The jet works with great traction, but not for long - there is little fuel. But ion can work for years and accelerate spacecraft with constant thrust. As a result, it can accelerate to very high speeds. Up to the point that the flight to the nearest star will not be so long.
        2. father nikon
          father nikon 24 September 2014 12: 43
          +1
          By the way, the first atomic bombs were also of low power at an unimaginable size, compared to modern thermonuclear warheads, and the first planes, cars, to infinity ... The same is true for alternative propulsion (including ion) engines with jet engines craving! What can I say, how much the Germans toiled with the development of jet engines for their first missiles!
  28. Vardan
    Vardan 24 September 2014 11: 43
    +1
    Lunar Federal District - SOUND.
    That imperialists will begin to piss with boiling water (sorry admins) that Russia will turn from the greatest world power into an interplanetary empire :)
  29. Oznob
    Oznob 24 September 2014 11: 44
    +2
    The moon will be an indestructible spaceship of the Russian Federation, how is Crimea an unsinkable aircraft carrier? I am for )
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 24 September 2014 11: 48
      +1
      To make it more enchanting, draw a "crater" of the "Death Star" type on the moon.
  30. Sedoy13
    Sedoy13 24 September 2014 11: 54
    +1
    The moon is a natural spy satellite.
  31. AUL
    AUL 24 September 2014 11: 54
    +3
    Quote: Wedmak
    The development of the moon is certainly good, but first you need to master the central regions of Russia at a distance of 150 km from Moscow and other major cities.

    What does it mean to master? Are there no roads or what? No crops? Or beyond the Moscow Ring Road bare steppe / tundra / forest for thousands of kilometers? It seems that you didn’t ride the train for a while.

    And the mess with the Nemtsov and Makarevich is also not on the moon.

    Do you propose to score on all high-tech industries and start the fight against Nemtsov and Makarevich?

    Dear, did you yourself go somewhere further 10 km from the city, if you say so? For the sake of interest, I advise you to take a ride along the Moscow - St. Petersburg highway (a highway, by the way, of federal significance). So, at a distance of about 100 km from the capital, the landscape along the highway resembles films about the post-war devastation. Boarded up houses. Houses with collapsed roofs. Villages with rare lights at dusk. Vegetable gardens overgrown with weeds. And if you drive a little to the side along the "roads that are" - the picture is even worse! Either suburban areas with palaces, or complete devastation! So we still have where to invest extra money, except for space.
    Although I have nothing against the development of the space industry. If only it pays off, and not only "for show-off"!
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 24 September 2014 12: 08
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      Dear, did you yourself go somewhere further 10 km from the city, if you say so?

      Yes, I always go fishing and paintball. And I also see the destroyed factories (we play there), I saw overgrown fields and even a couple of abandoned villages. But already on the other side of the road, watermelon fields, and two-story houses in the village.
      So what? What do you want to see at this place? Built-up houses of glass and concrete every square kilometer along the highway? Mini New York in the place of our villages? Or huge smoking plants every 10 km? Yes it will not be. Never. There will always be destroyed, old, abandoned, broken - factories, villages, cities, space stations, planets ...
      For example, I generally dream of a house by the river, 50 km from the nearest town, with a fishing line nearby, a good road to this house, and all the benefits of civilization in the house. But does everyone want to live like this?
      So we still have a lot of extra money to invest, except for space.

      Space does not require a lot of money, unlike the construction of roads and other infrastructure.
      1. dmb
        dmb 24 September 2014 12: 25
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        Dear Denis. The trouble is that before they wanted everything to the astronauts, they really selected the elite, and now it is proposed to send Makarevich and Nemtsov there. (If they needed horseradish there). And until there is something that was earlier, not the moon will be mastered, but allocated funds. By the way, those who offer themselves to space are in no hurry. They are more interested in acquiring jeeps. Watermelons are a good thing, but missiles are not made on melon, and not even at the plants for the production of pogodniks, the opening of which our cheers patriots are so proud of.
        1. Wedmak
          Wedmak 24 September 2014 12: 38
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          I completely agree. But ... without a goal, without a developed program, we will not be able to understand what we need. What kind of specialists, what technologies, what kind of production, etc. As soon as this is approved, as soon as the money goes to the program, both factories and engineers will immediately appear and will be engaged in the development of technologies. There will be an incentive to go to study as an engineer, designer, astronaut.
          They are more interested in acquiring jeeps.

          Yes, it’s a disaster. I would say a big trouble. Need to tighten the law for theft. And it’s stricter to monitor the suitability of the person in the position.
          1. dmb
            dmb 24 September 2014 14: 40
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            Do you seriously believe that this is possible? I cannot share your confidence, because that's all. what is happening today: from the statements of the "leader" to the actual implementation of his proclaimed "fight" against corruption "convinces me of the opposite. Corruption is not at all a traffic policeman on the road, and not a doctor at a local hospital. Corruption is, first of all, Serdyukov, Bilalov, Lebedev, Ustinov and even, as some argue, the “leader.” Of course, he was not caught yesterday for the fact that Rotenberg thrust an envelope into his jacket pocket, but about his activities under the leadership of the same “fighter” Sobchak, in addition to legends, there also existed and a report by a certain Salie. Her surname, of course, from the point of view of the "patriots", was cheating, but she was well informed, because she worked in the St. Petersburg parliament. Until now, this report has not been refuted. Therefore, wait for the "leader" to take for his environment is naive.
            1. Wedmak
              Wedmak 24 September 2014 15: 31
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              And you did not think that the "leader" is actively thrusting spokes in the wheels? This conclusion can only be drawn from the way his orders are carried out. And all development programs in general. Until he arrives and kicks each of the performers, it takes a teaspoon per hour! The sad legacy of the 90s and 2000s, when no one gave a shit, except for their own pocket.
              1. dmb
                dmb 24 September 2014 16: 02
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                You don’t think that you didn’t answer my question about the possibility of combating corruption. Whose legacy prevents the "leader" from asking his friends, obviously not liberals, whom he appointed, about the reasons for releasing Serdyukov from responsibility? In his environment there is not a single person not appointed by him, his rating is off scale. So what prevents instead of empty chatter, to get down to business.
    2. Setrac
      Setrac 24 September 2014 16: 21
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      Quote: AUL
      So we still have a lot of extra money to invest, except for space.

      A spaceship is just a vehicle, do you want to abandon them? let's give up sea ships, trains and cars for one thing, put everything into agriculture (for example) laughing
  32. teron
    teron 24 September 2014 12: 17
    +1
    "I would like to hear your opinion on whether it makes sense for us to continue working in the framework of manned space exploration in the international aspect, or whether it is time for us to develop a purely national project."
    Only national. Purely. And much.
  33. Nitarius
    Nitarius 24 September 2014 12: 20
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    Reminds the next hat hesitation ....
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veX8dKSWNWI

    But is it also on the moon?
    UFO escorted by Air Force Fighters
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 24 September 2014 12: 28
      +1
      Fake. 100%. Even the eye hurts.
  34. Tanysh
    Tanysh 24 September 2014 12: 24
    +2
    One of the mistakes of the USSR was not to use high technologies from the defense industry in the national economy. The distance from the "locomotive" to the final consumer was unreasonably long.
    In today's times, I hope for greater efficiency of entrepreneurs.
    Vaughn, "BTK-group" is producing a puff form for the Moscow region and in parallel is already selling a tourist-hunting line of structurally similar clothing ..
  35. Diviz
    Diviz 24 September 2014 12: 47
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    Quote: Wedmak
    And yet another skolkovo and information about the moon only with rents can be found.

    Yes, you can also watch TV for days, TV shows are more interesting there than exploring the world around us.

    Yes, even though you are the director of the stadium, you still don’t know the truth.
  36. rotor
    rotor 24 September 2014 13: 30
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    An interesting picture was attached to the article - a plan for the colonization of the moon
  37. Lelek
    Lelek 24 September 2014 13: 35
    +1
    The "lunar" program cannot be implemented without reusable delivery systems (such as a shuttle), and one-time spitting is just an unjustified waste of funds.
  38. k174oun7
    k174oun7 24 September 2014 13: 43
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    The Arctic was staked out, Crimea was returned, the ocean floor is ours, now we staked out the Moon. Come in handy. Go Russia!
  39. rotor
    rotor 24 September 2014 13: 44
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    According to Ostapenko, in the near future, the draft federal space program for 2016-2025 will be approved, which will determine the direction and goals of the development of the rocket and space sector of the Russian Federation.


    Unfortunately, nothing is said about the development of a lunar lander for astronauts. If funding for such work is not included in the program, then it will be impossible to start manned flights to the moon in 2030, as promised by Roscosmos.
  40. Check
    Check 24 September 2014 14: 50
    +1
    I would like to hear your opinion on whether it makes sense for us to continue working in the framework of manned space exploration in an international aspect, or is it time for us to develop a purely national project, ”he emphasized.
    internationally cheaper, but in a national project, we can do whatever we want (within the budget of course).
  41. Prikaz4ikov1992
    Prikaz4ikov1992 24 September 2014 15: 18
    +1
    Nice in space, we are the first and it needs to be developed. With regards to morons who talk about agriculture and roads. Have you decided to sell so much grain? As if technologies are already needed, other areas need smaller ones, just a minimum of people. On the road, and you just saw the urban planning strategy before the 24 year, huh? It really needs to be kept on not so many roads, and the Russian Federation is guided for the message first of all the train goes to them.
  42. bob
    bob 24 September 2014 16: 47
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    this is right time
  43. Demon0n
    Demon0n 24 September 2014 18: 01
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    I don’t see news releases (although I almost do not watch TV, maybe I missed it?) About the development and testing of reusable systems ... Materials can be emitted into the atmosphere by tons (with scanty return mass) or limited by fuel consumption (conditionally).
  44. tokens2
    tokens2 24 September 2014 19: 22
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    I will support ...
    I would like to see the "moonlit" loaf in stores.
    Beer "Dark Side of the Moon" and so on. with a complete list of the names of all sorts of asteroids, dark holes .. on store shelves.
    And more discounts for sleepwalkers.