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Igor Strelkov: Ukry agree only on the complete surrender of Russia in the New Russia

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“Reports from the militia of Novorossia” published a message from Igor Ivanovich Strelkov, in which he shared his opinion on the further developments in the east of Ukraine.

Igor Strelkov: Ukry agree only on the complete surrender of Russia in the New Russia


“Actually, it came true“ what the Bolsheviks were talking about for so long ”- ukr overcame a panic, reformed, prepared for new battles and clearly demonstrate that they agree only on one scenario - the complete surrender of Russia in Novorossia. The “brilliant successes of the peacekeepers” of the Surkov-Lavrov-Zurabov group again lead the President to the same choice that he had a month ago: either a decisive war (now with even greater losses and costs), or shameful capitulation (hereinafter the Crimea and “Milosevic script” ). For this, and stopped fighting, "- said Strelkov.

According to him, the question arises: “How long can Surkov be able to openly deceive the GDP, posing his“ virtual successes ”as real achievements?”

“Who says that“ everything is bad ”? It will be bad only if the President commits a suicidal step by accepting the conditions of the Party of Treason to slip as the “only solution”. And the last steps and the rhetoric of every rag-tag (starting from the buffoon Zhirik) show that no one is going to “hand over” to New Russia, ”Strelkov underlines.

In addition, he responded to attacks by commentators from Kassad and El Muride, in which he was called "stupid, talker, whiner, liar," belolentochnik, etc.

“Well, I will answer everyone at once: I write what I think and what I consider necessary. If I can’t write for reasons of secrecy or other reasons, I don’t write at all. Having written the same, I am ready in advance for my words to be replicated and commented. And I won't apply to any “target audience” (in order to “please”), ”notes Strelkov.
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  1. volot-voin
    volot-voin 22 September 2014 08: 10
    +22
    It is clear that the junta should blame its failures on Moscow's aggression, only if the militia were not interfered with, or the "aggression" took place, then it is possible that the junta would no longer exist, but there would be a Ukrainian government in exile and a people's tribunal.
    The "brilliant successes of the peacekeepers" of the Surkov-Lavrov-Zurabov group again bring the President back to the same choice that stood a month ago: either a decisive war (now with even greater losses and costs), or shameful surrender (hereinafter - the Crimea and the "Milosevic scenario" )
    Betrayal and treason drives. I wrote earlier that Gorbachev had to be sent to negotiations, he should not get used to selling his homeland.
    Shooters clever and as always right. They deprived Novorossia of a commander and an unbending leader by removing Strelkov's critters.
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 22 September 2014 08: 12
      +16
      I do not like the fact that Putin is being cornered ... sad
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 22 September 2014 08: 16
        +14
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        I do not like the fact that Putin is being cornered.

        Glory, who pushes?
        1. Nevsky_ZU
          Nevsky_ZU 22 September 2014 08: 24
          +3
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          I do not like the fact that Putin is being cornered.

          Glory, who pushes?


          Information is driven into a corner in the eyes of Russian society when they talk about the different towers of the Kremlin, spreading confusion and confusion among the people:

          The “brilliant successes of the peacekeepers” of the Surkov-Lavrov-Zurabov group again fail the President
          1. Hippopotamus
            Hippopotamus 22 September 2014 08: 35
            +17
            Note to the article, and to the Hero of the Russian World Igor Ivanovich - the century of health and brilliant military victories!
          2. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 22 September 2014 08: 40
            +5
            Quote: Nevsky_ZU

            Information is cornered in the eyes of Russian society,

            Glory. And who proposed a truce? Wasn't Putin the idea for an hour?
            1. veleonar
              veleonar 22 September 2014 09: 26
              -6
              "... who proposed a truce at all?" Why did they not listen to Putin when he proposed postponing the referendum? He did not want war there at all, you need to listen to smart ones.
          3. Velikoruss
            Velikoruss 22 September 2014 08: 52
            +15
            Information is cornered in the eyes of Russian society ...

            Brad!
            Putin self-shut, when dill was building up its force on Novorossiya, they burned people in Odessa, shot a rally in Mariupol, bombed towns and villages of Donbass and Luhansk oblast, and our Foreign Ministry only expressed regret and misunderstanding of the actions of the "partners".
            Is he (GDP) here, in the role of the wedding general?
            Surka does not fully agree with Strelkov's assessment of the "works", because Surka cannot act without Putin's approval, at least Putin is fully informed about all of Surkov's steps. It's just that the highest interests of our people end where the threat to billions of oligarchs begins
            1. volot-voin
              volot-voin 22 September 2014 09: 23
              +10
              Quote: Velikorus
              Putin self-shuttered when the dill was building up its force on Novorossiya, burning people in Odessa, shooting at a rally in Mariupol, bombing towns and villages of Donbass and Luhansk oblast, and our Foreign Ministry only expressed regret and misunderstanding of the actions of the "partners."

              As always, the lives of the Russian people were sacrificed to big politics and gas trading. People were thrown as usual when they voted in a referendum.
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            3. KazakPatrol
              KazakPatrol 22 September 2014 19: 57
              +1
              How can you all not understand that hostilities are taking place on the territory of another state, where the state’s army is destroying the population of two regions, that Putin is not the president, that our PRESIDENT needs to think that there are no hostilities on our territory. Believe me, our army is capable of a lot, but believe OUR PRESIDENT, he plays on a huge field of rotten politics, alone against all Western duraloms who want to drive the world into chaos. While Putin is winning, is it really not visible?
      2. RusDV
        RusDV 22 September 2014 08: 20
        +16
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        I do not like the fact that Putin is being cornered ... sad

        into the corner? ... it's unlikely. It is worrying that the GDP does not make power movements publicly ... except for the arrest of Yevtushenkov ... I am more concerned that the top of the fifth column is not driven into a corner ....
        1. Nitarius
          Nitarius 22 September 2014 09: 27
          0
          I think that everything is more complicated ..... TO CUT OFF A TREE- THE FOUNDATION SHOULD BE FIRST FIRST TO CUT ON WHAT IT COSTS .. that is, REMOVE IT NECESSARY! so that the TREE IS NOT ON ANYTHING-to rely on!
          then it will be possible to FELL AND TREE!
          1. oblako
            oblako 22 September 2014 10: 33
            +7
            If we talk about the roots, then I repeat, we must stop working at the Fed. Yes, expelling the dollar from the economy will have to give up a lot, but there will be more benefit than harm in the long run ... The only question is what is considered good for our country? And the gas and oil ruble will be in demand by the world economy - there will be no complete isolation. Access to technology and information also does not block. But this will not be work for the benefit of the Fed. And what is happening now in the financial sector of the country is half measures, the results of which will be very short-lived and fragile. We already tried to change something without changing anything in Gorbachev’s time, until the governance of the country was completely lost ...
          2. oblako
            oblako 22 September 2014 10: 33
            0
            If we talk about the roots, then I repeat, we must stop working at the Fed. Yes, expelling the dollar from the economy will have to give up a lot, but there will be more benefit than harm in the long run ... The only question is what is considered good for our country? And the gas and oil ruble will be in demand by the world economy - there will be no complete isolation. Access to technology and information also does not block. But this will not be work for the benefit of the Fed. And what is happening now in the financial sector of the country is half measures, the results of which will be very short-lived and fragile. We already tried to change something without changing anything in Gorbachev’s time, until the governance of the country was completely lost ...
      3. domokl
        domokl 22 September 2014 08: 28
        +7
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        Putin cornered ...

        This was clear even when the most popular militia began to be drained ... Of course, the shooters were a little too keen, but in fact, he was right. They all stubbornly pretend that the parasite in Washington for bread asks that the army of dill has started a harvesting campaign. That the people of Krajina comes to bile, demanding the continuation of the war ...
        The offensive of the dill army will begin from day to day. Moreover, it will not be a strange war ... It will be a blow to all and in several directions.
        If nothing changes, then the Rada’s elections will be held in the whole territory of Krajina ... Under sabotage, guerrilla warfare, torture in the SBU, but in the whole territory ...
    2. Mahmut
      Mahmut 22 September 2014 09: 21
      +1
      The militia is 1/300 of the population of New Russia. And why gentlemen the generals decided that Putin had muddied the Minsk talks for the sake of the military interests of the militias. Yes to the detriment. For the sake of saving civilians, albeit clumsy but you need to try. And the fact that a crowd of refugees who wished to return to their homes stood on the border is a fact. So not everything is as gloomy as someone trying to inspire us, posing as Strelkova. And they are not afraid of peace agreements. On the other side is also full of their critics. Therefore, if anything, the Viy sector will help resume the heroic battles.
      1. volot-voin
        volot-voin 22 September 2014 09: 31
        +3
        Quote: Mahmut
        And why gentlemen the generals decided that Putin had muddied the Minsk talks for the sake of the military interests of the militias. Yes to the detriment. For the sake of saving civilians, albeit clumsy but you need to try.

        If it led to the real world, I would agree, but wake up, this is only a protracted war, a new victim and a sip of oxygen for the junta. Or someone else doubts that Ukrainians will again trample on Donetsk and Lugansk? They still have not stopped shelling.
        Maybe the thing is that they make a lot of money in the war?
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    1. sscha
      sscha 22 September 2014 08: 20
      +2
      What matters is what the residents of New Russia consider ...
      Why is nobody asking them? And have to.
      The same ukram.
  3. VICTOR-61
    VICTOR-61 22 September 2014 08: 13
    +2
    Yes, the Surkovites and Zhurabov need to be driven in the neck from New Russia; they didn’t create anything here for the country in Russia; now there’s muddied water there, Strelkov is my idol and I would like him to lead Novorossia and not someone from outside
    1. afire
      afire 22 September 2014 09: 30
      +5
      let's not idealize either Putin or Strelkov! - Both competent specialists. Igor Ivanovich about ... Lavrov ... I think it is said in a hurry or he knows more than he says.
      The explanation is simple - we read what they want to tell us. BUT! this does not mean at all that this is true. That is, those people want us to think "correctly" without finishing the important point.
      Bottom line: We do not know the true roles in the undercover games. And this Evtushenkov is also not in vain in this muddle. In fact - until the second offensive has begun, we don’t understand - who, where and for whom is playing and whose interests are being watched.
  4. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 22 September 2014 08: 15
    +6
    Strelkov Lavrov recorded as traitors belay This is a perbo.
    Shooters started talking, says a lot and even too much.
    1. ispaniard
      ispaniard 22 September 2014 08: 20
      +7
      Hello Sasha! It has not been confirmed that these are his words in the first person. all the more so now only the lazy one does not want his "On ..." Murida "etc etc ...
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 22 September 2014 08: 25
        +1
        Quote: ispaniard
        nothing confirms that these are his words in the first person.

        Hi Cantemir! Yes, these words are three days already. The shooter said that.

        He behaves strangely, and says a lot of strange things. He speaks even more than politicians now.
        1. draft
          draft 22 September 2014 08: 42
          +10
          Alexander, does it bother you that Lavrov just now "evacuated" his adult daughter from the United States - "made his choice"? There is no doubt that Lavrov is a VERY literate person.
          Between the rounds of negotiations with Kerry, they take pictures in an embrace, I can’t imagine that Strelkov would do it in his place.
          And the fact that Strelkov is "talking" is good, we learn a lot. But the main thing why I believe Igor Ivanovich is because he really went for Russia under death.
          And yet - I trust Strelkov, because until he was ever convicted of a lie, he’s been convicted of it at least once, with evidence — I will shut up.
          Sincerely.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 22 September 2014 09: 01
            0
            Quote: Draft
            Alexander, does it bother you that Lavrov just now "evacuated" his adult daughter from the United States - "made his choice"?

            Where are the daughters of Putin? Also evacuated to their homeland, huh?
            Quote: Draft
            Between the rounds of negotiations with Kerry, they take pictures in an embrace, I can’t imagine that Strelkov would do it in his place.

            And Putin and Obama, so what?
            Quote: Draft
            And the fact that Strelkov is "talking" is good, we learn a lot.

            Yes, you will learn, soon you will learn a lot. Including details for Slavyansk. Wait, the current will not be disappointed greatly.
            1. krpmlws
              krpmlws 22 September 2014 10: 25
              +6
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Yes, you will learn, soon you will learn a lot. Including details for Slavyansk
              Do you have any secret information incriminating Strelkov? If so, please bring it, albeit without evidence. In your opinion, was Kurginyan right to accuse Strelkov of almost treason? Personally, I assume that your negative attitude towards Strelkov is not based on facts, you are only trying to whitewash those who forced Strelkova to leave New Russia.
          2. veleonar
            veleonar 22 September 2014 09: 34
            -1
            Faith is important. Do you agree with him in everything? And the fact that diplomats "between rounds of negotiations with Kerry, they take pictures in an embrace", they were taught to do this at the Institute of the Ministry of Defense.
        2. Koshak
          Koshak 22 September 2014 09: 12
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: ispaniard
          nothing confirms that these are his words in the first person.

          Hi Cantemir! Yes, these words are three days already. The shooter said that.

          He behaves strangely, and says a lot of strange things. He speaks even more than politicians now.

          Was there a video with these words? And judging by the text, these are not Strelkov’s words (the presentation style is not similar).
    2. volot-voin
      volot-voin 22 September 2014 08: 23
      +5
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Shooters Lavrov in traitors wrote down belay This is a perbo.

      Lavrov was smart enough not to sign the Minsk agreements, and they sent Zurabov.
      1. Nevsky_ZU
        Nevsky_ZU 22 September 2014 08: 27
        +2
        Quote: volot-voin
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Shooters Lavrov in traitors wrote down belay This is a perbo.

        Lavrov was smart enough not to sign the Minsk agreements, and they sent Zurabov.


        As for me, there needed to be sent to Minsk some public figure of Russia, so to speak, a goodwill ambassador ...
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 22 September 2014 08: 33
          0
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          so to speak, goodwill ambassador ...

          And what does that change?
          1. Nevsky_ZU
            Nevsky_ZU 22 September 2014 08: 35
            +2
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Quote: Nevsky_ZU
            so to speak, goodwill ambassador ...

            And what does that change?


            Lowers the official status of the Russian Federation. From Ukraine, because Kuchma is a pensioner, and not a representative of the current government.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 22 September 2014 09: 02
              +2
              Quote: Nevsky_ZU
              From Ukraine, because pensioner Kuchma

              Zurabov is the official representative of Russia, and who is Kuchma-pensioner and no more. His signature costs nothing at all.
              1. Nevsky_ZU
                Nevsky_ZU 22 September 2014 09: 03
                0
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Quote: Nevsky_ZU
                From Ukraine, because pensioner Kuchma

                Zurabov is the official representative of Russia, and who is Kuchma-pensioner and no more. His signature costs nothing at all.


                I'm about the same)))
              2. saag
                saag 22 September 2014 09: 22
                0
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                and who is Kuchma a pensioner and no more. His signature costs nothing at all.

                This is so that the electorate does not become ill, as if Yatsenyuk was sitting there, so Kuchma water is such an "anesthesia", under "anesthesia" what can not be done, but whether or not his signature is worth it, it does not matter if this process starts in the west support
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              4. muginov2015
                muginov2015 22 September 2014 10: 44
                +3
                Zurabov official representative of Russia ...

                A dozen more such "representatives" - and no enemies are needed.
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 22 September 2014 08: 33
        +4
        Quote: volot-voin

        Lavrov was smart enough not to sign the Minsk agreements, and they sent Zurabov.

        Whom they sent, he was sent. Lavrov, as if he himself decides where and when to go.
        Both Lavrov and Zurabov officially represent Russia.
        Therefore, stop talking nonsense.
        And Strelkov perfectly understands that Zurabov is following Putin’s orders or decrees. Not a boy, he knows everything, but speaks as he speaks. Why, I just don’t understand.
        1. Nevsky_ZU
          Nevsky_ZU 22 September 2014 08: 38
          +2
          And Strelkov perfectly understands that Zurabov is following Putin’s orders or decrees. Not a boy, he knows everything, but speaks as he speaks. Why, I just don’t understand.


          Alexander reminds me of an old Bolshevik who rightly points to specifics in the forehead and is not spoiled by rational and demagogic post-Soviet thinking. laughing Even fantasize leaves no room)))
        2. krpmlws
          krpmlws 22 September 2014 11: 14
          +2
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Why just don’t understand.
          Perhaps the reason lies in the words of Strelkov. He said that the consolidation of society around the supreme commander-in-chief is necessary, so criticism of the president, albeit with good reason, is unacceptable for Strelkov. That's why he has to talk about bad boyars and a good king.
        3. volot-voin
          volot-voin 22 September 2014 11: 15
          0
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Whom they sent, he was sent. Lavrov, as if he himself decides where and when to go.

          Lavrov, like Zurabov, is performing the task of his "team". No one denies this.
          Another thing is how will the Lavrov sign the Minsk agreements look in the eyes of the people? Lavrov decided not to substitute.
          Nevertheless, a person of Lavrov's level may have his own opinion within the "team" he represents.
      3. TRex
        TRex 22 September 2014 09: 11
        +1
        Lavrov was smart enough not to sign the Minsk agreements, and they sent Zurabov.

        How could Lavrov represent the interests of Russia in these negotiations, when the "shot down pilot" Kuchma is on the opposite side? Everything is fine - Zurabov is enough ...

        I think that Putin and his team are aware of what kind of "anti-rating" awaits him in the event of a drain on Novorossia. Here you must clearly follow the popular wisdom: "Seven times measure cut once".
      4. Turkir
        Turkir 22 September 2014 12: 18
        +1
        ... and they sent Zurabov.
        -------------
        Yes, Zurabov is just suitable for this.
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 22 September 2014 08: 37
      +3
      Hello, the ministers, but what about the arguments? Or the brains are so fucked up that you can’t write anything.
    4. kolyhalovs
      kolyhalovs 22 September 2014 08: 40
      +8
      Shooters fighting for New Russia. He is a military man. He wants a hike further. Naturally, he is annoyed by any thought of the world after everything that was there, whoever expressed it. However, is it possible to succeed today with the sword in the same Dnepropetrovsk or Zaporozhye, Sumy? I doubt it. Apparently, Putin is also fighting for New Russia, but now he is again betting on Gazprom. Let's see what happens. Ideally, after default there will be completely different moods and then it will be possible to act further. A trust can burst only from within.
      1. Nevsky_ZU
        Nevsky_ZU 22 September 2014 08: 43
        +6
        kolyhalovs
        Shooters fighting for New Russia. He is a military man. He wants a hike further. Naturally, he is annoyed by any thought of the world after everything that was there, whoever expressed it. However, is it possible to succeed today with the sword in the same Dnepropetrovsk or Zaporozhye, Sumy?


        And who is talking about these cities? Here is what I wrote in my publication as early as February 22:

        You ask me: is it all over? Not. Today, three regions and autonomy can be saved from the de-Russification of consciousness: the Crimea, Lugansk, Donetsk and Kharkov. Do not waste force on Odessa, Zaporozhye, Nikolaev, Kherson. We lost them by 55%. Difficult decisions. But we are talking about the preservation of the largest Russian ethnic group outside of big Russia.

        http://topwar.ru/40166-dnepropetrovsk-bolshe-ne-russkiy-gorod.html
        1. kolyhalovs
          kolyhalovs 22 September 2014 08: 51
          +3
          Shooter fights exactly for Novorossiya. And these are 8 areas. He needs Kiev (that's a city that we lost by 97,58%). I'm not talking about cities. About Strelkov, Putin, "the world" and why Lavrov is suddenly a traitor.

          Okay, I'll write in a different way so that there is no misunderstanding of my thoughts. Lavrov shares your point of view and mine, that now going beyond the borders of the DPR and LPR is simply dangerous, because we will be on enemy territory with all the consequences. Therefore, he inclines Putin to "peace." For a military shooter, this is not acceptable. Only the surrender of the Kiev gang. He speaks of Lavrov as the fifth column.

          Because Strelkov is a military man, and Lavrov is a diplomat. The military and diplomats generally do not really like each other.
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          2. Mikhail m
            Mikhail m 22 September 2014 09: 58
            +1
            It is much easier for diplomats to talk when a man with a gun stands behind them. Remember the good word and the gun.
            1. kolyhalovs
              kolyhalovs 22 September 2014 13: 33
              0
              +
              Diplomats and the military generally do one thing. Just fit from different ends. During the Crimean War, Russia's military defeat turned into an unexpectedly mild world for Russia. In the first world, on the contrary. There was no military justification for the Brest peace. In this way, everything that is created by excessive labor and the death of comrades can be fooled. Fear of such an option prompted Strelkov to such harsh (I think is incorrect) statements in the direction of Lavrov. And yet I will not call Strelkova bad words. I think he just got excited.
          3. romaniron
            romaniron 22 September 2014 10: 23
            -1
            Who persuades Putin to peace? Shooters? You are joking? What kind of New Russia are we talking about? do you watch telly, do you see newspapers? Where is there at least one word about New Russia. There is the DNI and LC, and there are NO NEW RUSSIANS (even such a word is not in the dictionary, all the while emphasizing it as an error))). That's it, the project ended, as it’s not bitterly aware. but he remained only in the minds of Pavel Gubarev, Brain, Bezler other militias. Putin agrees to the special status of those
            scraps from the republics of the DPR and LPR, even the offensive of the forces of New Russia was stopped. That says it all. Vladimir Vladimirovich - Peacemaker. And Igor Ivanovich, is everyone hoping for military assistance to Russia? Although judging by his latest statements, especially about Lavrov (Lavrov is the official point of view of the President of the Russian Federation on world politics), he probably no longer hopes. Well, it has long been clear to everyone that this military aid will not be available to her, it is only in the minds of Kiev politicians, and that is only to write off their losses. Well, damn it, if only the Ukrainian Armed Forces attack the Russian Federation, they’re waiting for such a gift in the Kremlin, it’ll just be a holiday !!!
            1. kolyhalovs
              kolyhalovs 22 September 2014 13: 15
              0
              Who persuades Putin to peace?

              Lavrov

              Shooters?

              No! I speak Lavrov!

              You are joking?

              Maybe speculation, but certainly not a joke.

              No matter how you write, anyway, someone will not understand. Yes, even so verbose does not understand. You minus.

              About New Russia. You hurry. Let's wait until Strelkov, Mozgovoy, Bezler, Gubarev are CLOSED. When these personalities cease to flicker in the media space. When even this terminology disappears from the agenda. When everyone will discuss anything, just not New Russia. Better yet, consider the inhabitants of eastern Ukraine (I mean, in addition to Donbass) enemies (then it seems ridiculous to "liberate" them). Then it will be possible to speak with confidence about the drain of Novorossiya. You will remember about Novorossiya then, right?

              In the meantime, Putin pronounces the word I don't care if it is emphasized on the VO forum.

              CT
      2. saag
        saag 22 September 2014 08: 57
        +2
        Quote: kolyhalovs
        Apparently, Putin is also fighting for Novorossia, but now he is again betting on Gazprom

        A bet has already been made on Gazprom, the result of a $ 5 billion loss
        1. kolyhalovs
          kolyhalovs 22 September 2014 09: 12
          +1
          The 5 billion you are talking about is not a loss. This is a debt for gas. Losses are those billions that we invested in Ukraine at a time when it was becoming more and more Bandera. And that is more than five billion. Previously, Gazprom was a gingerbread man, and we spent and spent money on this gingerbread, like very crazy people. Now Gazprom is a baton.
    5. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 22 September 2014 09: 03
      +2
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Strelkov Lavrov in traitors recorded This is a perbo.
      Shooters started talking, says a lot and even too much.

      And who wrote this article at all? Why should I believe the lines of an anonymous author? What is this stuffing? If Strelkov needs to say something, he will say it on camera. And so - this is all the speculation of the author. And about Lavrov, in general, in no framework ...
    6. krpmlws
      krpmlws 22 September 2014 10: 18
      +2
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Strelkov Lavrov in traitors recorded This is a perbo.

      And you do not admit that Strelkov may have reasons for this?
  5. Denis
    Denis 22 September 2014 08: 15
    -1
    Do you agree?
    Who asked them?
    “Brilliant successes of peacekeepers” of the Surkov-Lavrov-Zurabov group
    And these for a walk to the lantern, decorated with a rope. So as not to stink
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 22 September 2014 08: 44
      +3
      Quote: Denis
      And these for a walk to the lantern, decorated with a rope. So as not to stink

      Lavrov? Are you friends with your head?
      1. Nevsky_ZU
        Nevsky_ZU 22 September 2014 08: 46
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: Denis
        And these for a walk to the lantern, decorated with a rope. So as not to stink

        Lavrov? Are you friends with your head?


        What does this remind me of? ... hmm ... native Ukraine ... all on a rope !! wassat State thinking evaporates ... emotions
  6. shishakova
    shishakova 22 September 2014 08: 16
    +6
    Igor Ivanovich is a true patriot of Russia, an honest man and a delicate diplomat.
    I think that he is pursuing a single policy with Putin.
  7. Svetlana
    Svetlana 22 September 2014 08: 18
    +3
    Quote: volot-voin
    The junta needs to blame its failures on Russia's aggression at all costs.

    The junta now needs at all costs - temporary concessions, statements about the desire for peace, whatever, but to get out of failure and achieve their goals. Now they are capable of any dirty trick and the lowest betrayal.
  8. Drunya
    Drunya 22 September 2014 08: 25
    +1
    Philip Ekozyants turned to Kharkov, dear to his heart.

    I know that you will execute yourself for not immediately joining Donetsk and Lugansk, for not having risen with them to the battle against lawlessness and Nazism. I want to say a few words in your defense.
    First, you are not a coward. In February, the idea of ​​the liberation movement was born here. Just by your loyalty and intelligence, you trusted those who gave you a promise to fight to the end, those who swore that they would not allow the Nazis and proteges of the Kiev junta to power. You gave them a chance, but they betrayed you.

    1. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 22 September 2014 08: 31
      +3
      Cool video good But unfortunately only suitable for Kharkov. Other Russian-speaking cities of Ukraine, such as Dnepropetrovsk, Zaporozhye and Nikolaev - did not deserve such a video. At the expense of Odessa, it is debatable that there were also 15-thousandth rallies, but after May 2, they intimidated. Although my personal opinion is that there are more Russian-speaking consumers there than in Kharkov, they surrendered the city as maydanut.
  9. lovimoment
    lovimoment 22 September 2014 08: 26
    -3
    Something Shooters sense of proportion loses. Chuyku Mayu is not good for it ((
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 22 September 2014 08: 32
      0
      Quote: lovimoment
      Something Shooters sense of proportion loses. Chuyku Mayu is not good for it ((


      That yes ... It turns out that Kurginyan is right? request
  10. Veteran of the Red Army
    Veteran of the Red Army 22 September 2014 08: 27
    +2
    "Brilliant success of peacekeepers" Surkov-Lavrova-Zurabova


    Something is some kind of muddy note. Therefore, Strelkov will not discuss the actions of the Russian Foreign Ministry. Especially Lavrov.
    Zurabov is not the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Dummy so that the place is not empty.
  11. saag
    saag 22 September 2014 08: 28
    +3
    It is amazing that Strelkov separates Surkov, Lavrov, Zurabov and Putin, as if omitting that the peacemaking initiative sounded from Mongolia from the latter, it’s strange like that’s all
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 22 September 2014 08: 35
      +1
      Quote: saag
      strange as that is all

      Each speech has a motive, but we don’t know it. I think it will soon be clear why Strelkova carried Putin to the tsar, and Lavrov to the traitors.
      1. saag
        saag 22 September 2014 08: 44
        0
        I have the impression that Strelkov is being "led", so to speak, under intellectual control and to the slaughter
      2. anfil
        anfil 22 September 2014 10: 17
        0
        He hinted at Lavrov on 08.09.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX in the "Message from Igor Ivanovich Strelkov" on this site.

        6. I will certainly continue to fight for the Fatherland in one format or another. Let my numerous "well-wishers" (in Russia and Novorossiya, as well as on the Ruin) feel no illusions about this. While he is alive, they will not have to sleep well. In addition, to some people in Donetsk I "send a message", as they say now: "I am angry and I have a good memory." :) This is especially true of one elderly lover of good cigars and whiskey, who for more than 20 years successfully portrayed himself as an "officer and patriot." He will understand. : crazy: Honor and respect - this is now "not about him". Well, to all the mongrels from the locals who are on his leash, I also advise you not to forget that I am still alive and quite capable.


        "A veteran diplomat who loves cigars, whiskey, and the United States' waggle" link: http://www.warandpeace.ru/ru/reports/view/83710/
        1. muginov2015
          muginov2015 22 September 2014 10: 50
          0
          Yes, he did not hint at Lavrov, but at the proxy-general, Kovan, who seems to have been arrested recently in the DPR.
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  12. Wladimir71
    Wladimir71 22 September 2014 08: 30
    +7
    Zhirinovsky VV! call a buffoon is not far-sighted! He spoke to the same parashenko back in 2006 in Ukraine, this is on the video! And he predicted the aggression of Georgia in Ossetia, all the events in Ukraine! Yes, he should be given the title of academician. And even then he warned Ukrainian politicians about what all their decisions would lead them to, they had lost the country. Look for the video on YouTube there is this record and no vanga is needed.
    1. zzz
      zzz 22 September 2014 08: 47
      +4
      Or maybe Strelkov did not say that at all? As we all know, you can take everything out of context, anything. Once the author talked with Strelkov and let's scribble articles on specific topics. Who knows ....
  13. sergey261180
    sergey261180 22 September 2014 08: 39
    +3
    “How long will Surkov be able to openly deceive the GDP, passing off his“ virtual successes ”as real achievements?”
    Again 25. Boyars are bad, king lapuh.
  14. Drunya
    Drunya 22 September 2014 08: 43
    +1
    as far as true or not - but the news would seem from Strelkova appear at the link below.
    I don’t know, he writes or on his behalf who what
    http://vk.com/strelkov_info
    and here I also found by Strelkov
    http://rusvesna.su/tags/strelkov-i
  15. Veteran of the Red Army
    Veteran of the Red Army 22 September 2014 08: 47
    0
    "Reports from the militia of New Russia" published a message Strelkova Igor Ivanovich


    Who can tell the address these "summaries"? Something I did not find.
  16. Freeway_3007
    Freeway_3007 22 September 2014 08: 48
    0
    Well, as I said: by analogy with Chechnya again. The Kremlin's "stop order" will lead to new and even greater victims, if not defeat ... Success had to be developed, but the main thing was lost - time.
  17. Walk
    Walk 22 September 2014 08: 48
    +2
    I can’t believe something that Putin is so naive and deceived, as Strelkov claims. Rather, he (Putin) has no opportunity to do so with this state of affairs.
  18. Artybyrd
    Artybyrd 22 September 2014 09: 22
    0
    Quote: SRC P-15
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Strelkov Lavrov in traitors recorded This is a perbo.
    Shooters started talking, says a lot and even too much.

    And who wrote this article at all? Why should I believe the lines of an anonymous author? What is this stuffing? If Strelkov needs to say something, he will say it on camera. And so - this is all the speculation of the author. And about Lavrov, in general, in no framework ...

    The "originals" of Strelkov's words are published with the mark "Strelkov reports" in the "Summaries from the Novorossiya militia" group in VK, I think these publications can also be found on other similar resources even before they appear on VO
  19. Nychego
    Nychego 22 September 2014 09: 30
    +1
    Strelka’s GDP is a bit naive, which any marmot will be able to fool.

    It is not individuals who are involved in playing the kabudtworld card, but interests of large groups. After all, it is obvious that the pseudo world and foolish memoranda are designed to raise the Russian corporate securities market. As soon as those who rule out of stocks into money, one can expect a "sharp aggravation", directly related to this fall in the market for securities and a new round of the game. Let not the notorious "three hundred percent per annum" for which the capitalist will commit any crime, but 8-10 percent from one swing takeoff and the same amount from a fall, this is a thick, thick layer of black caviar on top of chocolate on the snout of the dear oligarchy.
  20. Alexander S.
    Alexander S. 22 September 2014 09: 31
    0
    Zurabov is the ambassador of the Russian Federation to Ukraine. So he is the official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry (unlike Kuchma (Ukrainians are smarter)). And Putin ... the first two terms he was the real president ... the leader ... and when he came to the third term ... honestly, I did not recognize him ... that Putin was no more ... he became somehow clogged. Apparently he is now in control of nothing ... trying ... somewhere slipping through ... but the power is now in other hands. Take the same situation with the May decrees, which the government insolently scored. For example, the boss sets a task for his employees ... but they do not fulfill it .. year .. two .. and do not even itch. The question is ... what will a normal boss do? fired. otherwise, respect falls to zero at a time. But Putin also sits and does not itch ... you see, they do not allow everyone to disperse. This, incidentally, if you look at the other side, that Putin is good and he sincerely cares for Russia. And I trust only my mom))
    So far there is only one way out (to raise Russia from its knees) - mass terror ... executions ... of a rifle ... hanging of all responsible guilty people ... without any policy ... of agreements ... compromises ... and so on ... for compromises in politics have led to what we have now - the country is at an impasse.
  21. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 22 September 2014 09: 33
    +3
    Guys, don't be so naive, the war against Russia is going on not only on the fronts of Novorossiya, but the main actions are developing on the information front. And what is most offensive is our loss to Western propaganda (duped Kiev and almost the entire population of the Center and West of Ukraine). So most likely this is just a "stuffing" of the best "friends of democracy", very much in this little article raises doubts, and most importantly it is a veiled cry "the boss mustache is gone ..."! In short, "in war, as in war ..."!
  22. Agent 008
    Agent 008 22 September 2014 09: 51
    +2
    Unlike us, Strelkov understands that for Poroshenko, these Minsk agreements are just pieces of paper! Poroshenko will hold elections, more or less strengthen the army, and again go to war in Donetsk and Lugansk ...
  23. JonnyT
    JonnyT 22 September 2014 10: 04
    +2
    offended, he misses, his heart breaks into pieces when he sees what happens there without him. Obviously, some kind of oligarchic turbidity began, everyone wants to make money on this conflict. Hucksters and zhids want to boil millions on the blood. In my opinion, something similar happens after the first Chechen and Khasavyurt agreements - it seems like peace, but the soldiers are dying, money is flowing in huge flux and disappearing somewhere, various clans and groups are fighting for power. I remember there was a leader who led to a favorable outcome, but he was blown up under the bridge - the result is the rest of his life in a wheelchair and ripped off normal peaceful decisions. I think it’s no secret to anyone that shooters are a threat not only to the junta, but also to Russian oligarchs !!!! After all, what he is doing and what ideology he is promoting directly hits the oligarchic influence in the Russian Federation ........ You need to take care of the arrow, it still feels useful to my heart, and it doesn’t need to sit idle - return it back !
  24. Second
    Second 22 September 2014 10: 05
    +3
    It’s hard for Igoy Ivanovich to stand against the oligarchic pack. Betrayal, meanness, theft in these rats in the blood. Russian officers with weapons in their hands, standing behind the Russians, are worse for them than Bandera. You can agree with Bandera (temporarily, of course, for money) with the Riflemen - no. The war is oligarchic - Bandera is only a tool in the hands of the oligarchs.
    PS Zhirik said: "It's good that there is a truce." "Before, they killed 100 a day, but now only 5-7." Well, if you take him and his relatives and enter into this figure 5-7 people killed. For him to sing then? There are examples in history of treaties with the Nazis, all of them ended in an even greater war.
  25. postoronim V
    postoronim V 22 September 2014 10: 15
    +2
    Maybe he will at least make an alternative to the presidential election in 2018. I would vote for him, then thieves in the Duma and the government will howl.
  26. divangeneral
    divangeneral 22 September 2014 10: 19
    0
    Quote: Nevsky_ZU
    I do not like the fact that Putin is being cornered ... sad


    Putin has a high rating after the Crimea. and a high rating, while people think that New Russia will be and its cunning plan is in effect.
    but in fact it is clear that there is no HPP, there is Surkov’s cunning plan for the discharge of New Russia.
    as soon as the people see that New Russia is merged, the GDP will lose popular support
    Putin is really substituted by the Surkov team, and on purpose.
    plus amers given a team of fas on Putin to the oligarchs. crush them with sanctions to remove Putin. so Hodor showed up, and the marches began.
    a coup is being prepared.
    Igor Ivanovich, a smart man, with his messages tries to give the GDP to save face and remove Surkov from curating over Novorosiya and its discharge.
    Putin’s fate is now being decided in New Russia, and the fate of New Russia depends on his political position and curator.
    You need to change the curator.
    Strelkov is trying to solve this issue.
    that's all
  27. muginov2015
    muginov2015 22 September 2014 10: 53
    +2
    Well, you really lit up the tare bars! The little article is a provocative throw, it’s obvious.
  28. Nina Zima
    Nina Zima 22 September 2014 10: 54
    +1
    For those who believe that the war is over ...
    Friends recently there has been a massive decrease in the activity of donors for the needs of the militia. Therefore, I take this opportunity to engage in self-PR: http://www.cmlt.ru/post/success-save-ad-b3197878 Since my ad was blocked by a moderator in the Camelot newspaper and require money for its publication, I decided to send my link to all social networks. networks. Perhaps good people will respond and further forward the information to their friends. Thanks everyone !!!
  29. ivanovich
    ivanovich 22 September 2014 11: 17
    0
    According to him, the question arises: “How long can Surkov be able to openly deceive the GDP, posing his“ virtual successes ”as real achievements?”


    It is hardly possible to openly or repeatedly deceive Putin’s former KGB officer, I think Strelkov as a person from the special services understands this well, but he posed the question correctly in fact, because the result of this Minsk ceasefire was a sluggish war with periodic shelling of cities and this wasn’t freezing the conflict to the level of Greater Transnistria.
    Perhaps the answer lies in big politics: Surkov-Lavrov and others are only one segment of it, they are doing their job showing the West our peacekeeping position with a further aim of lifting sanctions, we have another segment: the security forces - to which Strelkov belongs, they are ready to conduct a tough military line against Ukraine. Of course, Putin uses both of them in the political game with Western "partners", but unfortunately the costs of all high strategies in the form of various disasters are poured on ordinary people, in this case the population of Donbass suffers.
  30. Roshchin
    Roshchin 22 September 2014 11: 42
    +2
    New Russia has achieved outstanding success in the sense that, starting from scratch, not having enough support, it was able to withstand the entire Ukropov state. Even if only in a third of the territory of the Lugansk and Donetsk regions. Not yet evening. Now in Kuev, under the talk of peace, they will prepare the Ossetian-Abkhaz version, begging for weapons and money from the West to suddenly attack. The Russian Federation should support and recognize the state formation of Novorossiya, especially strengthen its military segment. This is the zone of vital interests of Russia. And what will happen to the current Ruin, time will tell. The GDP should have enough intelligence and experience to act correctly, in spite of any fifth and other columns. We’ll hear about Strelkov not only in the interview.
  31. wladimir
    wladimir 22 September 2014 12: 16
    0
    It is clear that the fall offensive those slush and bad weather ukrofashisty will go on the offensive.
  32. brdnxela
    brdnxela 22 September 2014 13: 14
    0
    You can fight. But then what to do with the hungry, without housing, work and means of crests? In winter, they themselves will decide who, how and what (rat method in a barrel)
  33. Andriuha077
    Andriuha077 22 September 2014 13: 26
    0
    Alexander Zhilin on the preparation of a nuclear provocation in Ukraine

    Published: 19 sep. 2014. Military expert Alexander Zhilin on the US occupation of Ukraine and the delivery of nuclear weapons and depleted uranium ammunition there. Interview to the chief editor of "Segodnya.ru" Yuri Kotenk
    youtube.com/watch?v=MYps6tLnj7U#t=100
    A US military transport aircraft landed at the Ivano-Frankivsk air base, and under the guise of preparing for the Fast Trident exercise, which NATO forces began in Ukraine, 6 (Six) sets of tactical nuclear weapons were unloaded, these are shells for field artillery , and 100 pieces of projectiles with depleted uranium cores.
  34. Pharao7766
    Pharao7766 22 September 2014 14: 05
    +2
    ... something like this...
  35. Alex Nick
    Alex Nick 22 September 2014 14: 40
    +2
    The money of the oligarchs and their pinched tails, in connection with the sanctions, play a significant role in concluding a truce, in the hope of lifting these sanctions. Money rule on both sides.