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Russia is growing dollar and euro are trying to take on fright

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Against the background of the continuing depreciation of the ruble against the dollar and the euro in Russia, more and more questions arise: is there a limit in the foreseeable future at which the ruble can stand still and breathe a little? At the time of preparation of the material, the value of the American currency has updated another record, reaching the value of 38 rubles. 70 cop., The value of the European currency almost came close to the March record value, having exceeded 50 rubles. At the same time, both currencies (dollar and euro) in just one day went up by 72 and 87 kopecks, respectively, bringing the cost of the so-called dual-currency basket to the highest mark - to 44 with more than a ruble.

Russia is growing dollar and euro are trying to take on fright


Of course, this situation does not give grounds for great optimism, since the level of import substitution, which is present in the domestic economy today, is very high. In other words, Russia is forced to import too large volumes of foreign goods, and buying them for dollars and euros (mostly), and this directly accelerates the level of inflation. And if the majority of Russians do not care much about the rates of foreign currencies due to the fact that we are accustomed to operating with the national currency, then unfortunately we will not succeed in ignoring inflation growth. If the government initially determined 4,8% as inflation targets, now even the forecast in 6% already looks very optimistic. This is despite the fact that acceleration of inflation in consumer prices is ahead of last year’s by about 1,5%.

If the Central Bank does not take corrective action, and does not support the national currency, the ruble can sink even deeper. At the same time, perhaps, no modern economist can “navangovat”, what is the exchange rate of the ruble against the dollar and the euro by the end of this year. Will the Central Bank provide financial support to the ruble? Today, this question worries absolutely all domestic economists.

By definition, the Central Bank of the Russian Federation seems to support the ruble. Why? Well, not so much because of the great love for the domestic currency as such, but because the Central Bank is guided by the said currency basket, within which the ruble exchange rate can move. If we consider that now the value of the dual-currency basket has reached its peak, then the Central Bank should at least stabilize the ruble, preventing it from falling further - beyond the limits of the basket. It can cost substantial funds. But substantial funds may cost the adoption of a new framework for the basket. And now the same state economists will have to consider the pros and cons: either to spend a lot of money in order to keep the ruble from falling and stall inflation growth, or not to spend so much money allowing you to fall more, but at the same time getting the risk of accelerating inflation to new lines.

It would seem that the first option is preferable. But this is only the external side of the question, rather aimed at the prestige of the Russian ruble. The central bank may well refuse to invest in support of at least the current ruble exchange rate. And there is a good reason for this. The fact is that even Western economists, who are not at all distinguished by respect for the Russian financial system, are inclined to say that the ruble is undervalued. Well, the ruble is not so weak that in a couple of weeks he himself (without outside help) could lose about 10% of his value. Hence, extraneous "help" is still present. The best price for the Russian ruble in the West is 35-36 per dollar and 46-47 per euro. And not only, by the way, in the West.

The current high price of US and European currencies against the ruble is a kind of speculative pressure that suits the Western system, acting under the dictation of the states “not interfering” in the economy. The US and the EU are trying to show with all their might: take a sip, they say, of our sanctions, and in addition, they clearly count on the Central Bank to panic and rush to “save” the ruble from falling, allocating billions in funds and depleting Russia's reserves.

In fact, it turns out that today it is the West that is significantly invested in the revaluation of its currencies, and on the basis of this, there is a struggle until the moment someone is afraid. If the Central Bank is the first to bend, then it will have to go to the financial support of the ruble and spend a lot of money to keep it within the existing bi-currency basket. If the Central Bank resists, then the US and the EU will either have to increase artificial pressure, spending new billions on it, or give up the pressure, which in itself will return the ruble to the adequate milestones indicated above.

They are trying to take our financial system to fright, while clearly relying on the discontent of the masses with the state of affairs. It is clear that to feel the growth of inflation on yourself - very few people may like it. But at the same time, it is necessary to understand that any spending by the Central Bank on supporting the ruble will only increase pressure from the Western economy, which now (and only now?) Is forcedly dancing to a political tune. The pressure will be increased in order to reduce the gold and foreign currency reserves (gold reserves) of the country to a minimum, and a decrease in the gold and foreign currency reserves can be a powerful blow to the entire economy. And this will directly affect each of us.

As soon as the Central Bank invests substantial funds to counteract the growth of the euro and the dollar, the next run-up will come from the West with the simultaneous understanding that the Central Bank of the Russian Federation has been dragged out. If, at first, the Central Bank of the Russian Federation shows that it does not intend to stick to the course, then the sanction-exchange rate pincers will unclench themselves - for the reason that it is not enough for the most risky financiers and even for the cane the system of Washington and Brussels economic policy.
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  1. firevvs
    firevvs 17 September 2014 09: 24
    +13
    And the Central Bank is not going to stabilize the dollar, they said that they are letting it float freely. Let's see what happens. Yes, the price increase is small, not critical and the next step is to abandon the dollar, which is good.

    All this is beneficial only to currency speculators at all levels and no more.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 17 September 2014 09: 32
      +32
      Quote: ognevvs
      All this is beneficial only to currency speculators at all levels and no more.

      Sorry, but you don’t understand the niche. The dollar will not be restrained and not because the Central Bank of the Russian Federation is so bad. And simply because now they will push it to the top with all their might, but accurately and artificially. An expensive dollar is a blow to goods from abroad .Goods, cars, appliances -this will all increase in price, as well as products maid in nenasha. Stupidly there is support for its manufacturer.
      1. Canep
        Canep 17 September 2014 09: 50
        +7
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        UPO is the support of its manufacturer.

        Hi Sasha. hi Yeah, and our plant from Kazakhstan delivers railway wheels to you (Russia), when the tenge has fallen off, we immediately have volumes, and now our wheels will go up again. Bad for Kazakhstan and our factory. I think other countries will be in the same position. So, keeping the ruble exchange rate in this situation is not very profitable. But from a social point of view, if you have a lot of imported socially significant goods, then a cheap ruble will lead, together with the embargo, to higher prices for these goods. What Putin decides is not yet clear.
        PS By the way, after the devaluation of the tenge, our prices have not changed much, because almost all local products, gasoline has significantly risen in price, and Russian potatoes, I think now the prices will equal (in the sense of before and after).
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 17 September 2014 10: 24
          +2
          Quote: Canep
          and now our wheels will rise in price again

          Hello, Sergey! And why now they have to rise in price, them for bucks, or something to sell?
          Quote: Canep
          then a cheap ruble, together with the embargo, will lead to higher prices for these goods.

          Well, actually, I wrote about this. Western goods will go up in price and this is understandable, but if they manage to stop their growth, then it’s normal. Although LM is now a 60p pack. I’m waiting for new sanctions laughing
          1. jjj
            jjj 18 September 2014 01: 05
            +1
            There is one more small nuance. On Wednesday, 17 of September, the Central Bank, as promised, intervened and sold at a high rate the currency for rubles. By evening, both the dollar and the euro fell. The central bank bought them. As a result, the bank ended up with the full amount in currency, and it was still possible to earn money. Well, the ruble has been adjusted
          2. Shur
            Shur 18 September 2014 01: 06
            +2
            It's time to get off the green pill, which is oh, how painful, especially for those who are used to importing. But the domestic manufacturer needs to be given a chance and pour money there, and not in mythical courses. Even the cheapening of oil in the long term will lead to the fact that our oilmen will start refining and investing in it, and not drive it through pipes over the cordon. Then we will joke about the big pluses, but for now, they are focused on the import of raw materials and we can get an increase in fuel prices. Fuel prices are already overstated, for good reason, it is high time to bend all these monopolies, since in reality the prices in the producing country should be appropriate. Who cares take a look at the "normal prices". We are there next to Liberia and Bhutan sad http://ru.globalpetrolprices.com/Saudi-Arabia/gasoline_prices/
      2. mihasik
        mihasik 17 September 2014 10: 46
        +25
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Dear dollar, it’s a blow to goods from abroad. Clothes, machinery, equipment will all increase in price, as well as maid in nenasha products. Support for their manufacturer is stupid.


        And our manufacturer does not lose time in vain!
        A general increase in prices for everything begins, although the cost and raw materials seem to be at the same level! Some refer to inflation, others refer to a cheaper ruble, still others refer to rising energy prices (although world prices have fallen), and still others, because everyone does it and the moon didn’t shine tonight !!! And everyone probably noticed that if the ruble wins back, for some reason prices do not fall back. What is it for? So for whom to tighten belts? For the sake of speculators and crooks or the state? If the state, then for this the economy should be in the hands of the state, and this is just not there. All attempts in this case are water in the sand and, as always, the consumer will be the last.
        1. Oleg NSK
          Oleg NSK 17 September 2014 12: 52
          +2
          All this, of course, is true ... and it is understandable ... only it seems to me that the state urgently, is simply obliged to gain control over the natural monopolies ... in order to maintain prices for fuel, energy and other pricing industries ... if it does, then it’s possible not only retention, but also a reduction in prices ... which will make the domestic producer competitive in the domestic market
          PS Apparently this is what is happening ... this is evidenced by the fact that the state wants a part of the stabilization fund (debt securities of the USA, EU, Canada and other "partners" of Russia) to invest in Rosneft, Novatek, etc. (i.e. into the domestic economy) ... at the same time, to gain greater control over these enterprises ... as well as to get rid of the inflation import of these very "partners" into Russia ...
          ... and now it turns out that with our money ... they are also pushing us
          1. Shur
            Shur 18 September 2014 01: 10
            0
            If you have time, before turning them into toilet paper.
      3. DanSabaka
        DanSabaka 17 September 2014 12: 37
        +5
        Alas, not only imported goods will rise in price. I am engaged in the production of furniture and we have the lion's share of components - imported. The boss is already howling about the need to raise prices, but so far we are somehow getting out.
        I'm afraid that this situation is not only among furniture makers.
        1. Kapac_82
          Kapac_82 17 September 2014 14: 57
          +2
          DanSabaka, and in furniture production, is it really impossible to replace imported components with ours? What the hell, our country cannot even make furniture components ?!
          1. jjj
            jjj 18 September 2014 01: 09
            +1
            Films on MDF, accessories for any - imported.
            Even if you take something Chinese, say films for suspended ceilings, it’s still through the dollar anyway. Furniture makers, ceilings, window-makers, car-drivers - now not a very bright strip
          2. Shur
            Shur 18 September 2014 01: 15
            +1
            Even nails and hardware does not really make sense.
        2. Shur
          Shur 18 September 2014 01: 14
          +1
          This is called an incomplete production cycle. As a result, your furniture will be on Chinese components, and now it is full of them, and in the light of our ruble-yuan relations, there will be nothing wrong, provided the reality of the latter is of course.
      4. fktrcfylhn61
        fktrcfylhn61 17 September 2014 12: 53
        0
        So let them buy for themselves at frantic prices! And those who buy at these prices, to the detriment of state interests, are the enemy of the state, and its interests !!! Well and accordingly ...
      5. anfil
        anfil 17 September 2014 12: 53
        +2
        Do not fly high so that it does not hurt to fall

      6. twviewer
        twviewer 17 September 2014 13: 55
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov

        Sorry, but you do not understand a niche.

        again, twenty-five, from where the rises will appear if the pockets of the townsfolk empty, and the percentage of loans to the producer grows, and equipment (imported), and often raw materials, are now rapidly becoming more expensive.
        You are robbed, and you shout cheers and clap your hands. It's funny
        An increase in the $ rate is beneficial only to the government of compradors, and to swindlers of all stripes, everyone else is only worse off from this. You’ll also wait for the buzu, many people now dream of throwing off GDP. So, hurry.
        1. Shur
          Shur 18 September 2014 01: 27
          0
          In the article we are talking about an artificial decrease in the ruble, don't you find that this is not the same thing? All actions to increase the cost of loans and other speculations in the domestic market must be suppressed, and if not, then this is just a question of GDP. But export becomes profitable, so let's go, we increase the competition of our products, we are engaged in import substitution, while you are panicking here, Western manufacturers themselves continue to build factories here. They also do not want to lose funds previously invested in Russia. There is an understanding that under the conditions of sanctions, it is necessary to localize production on local raw materials. Yes, not all of them, but believe me there are many examples. I myself work with the Turks in the SEZ, they build without stopping, they are ready to build more. They don't give a damn about taking rubles, there is probably where to spend. Of the recent, already post-sanction plans, to build more production. On the contrary, they see how the Europeans are bringing down the rush to stake out a place. Transnationals also "take risks." Factories are under construction. Powerfully built by the Chinese.
          1. Aldo
            Aldo 18 September 2014 07: 07
            0
            How can we artificially lower the ruble? This also depends on the balance of import-export and on foreign investment. Take a course in macroeconomics to understand this.
            1. Shur
              Shur 18 September 2014 23: 38
              0
              Read it yourself Something like this http://www.gazeta.ru/business/2013/06/19/5386469.shtml
              "Artificial influence", read at the same time, I did not write that in vain.
            2. Shur
              Shur 19 September 2014 00: 00
              0
              We add here not quite market levers of influence on investors who are forced to curtail and export capital under the threat of influence. We observe the outflow. And so on. All different stuffing and negative ratings and ratings leading to a decrease in investment. When investment projects are curtailed by order and under pressure, this is no longer normal.
    2. Blondy
      Blondy 17 September 2014 11: 45
      +10
      And it seems to me that our business is simply "on the ball" inflating prices amid the cries of sanctions. Hence the inflation.
      1. Shur
        Shur 18 September 2014 01: 31
        0
        But it doesn't seem to me, it's obvious and just noticeable, here's the owner. Something is not visible leverage of real influence on the same oil workers and other monopolists-indifferent. They seem to be on the other side, probably they are, apparently they are being dictated to by the Zaokenan, those for whose loans and with whose "labels" were issued back in the 90s.
    3. SVAROGE
      SVAROGE 17 September 2014 12: 59
      0
      This is beneficial to the budget ...., considering that petrodollars come to us ... and we get + 10% rubles ... For social programs, this is buzzing! Lord, thank you that Kudrin is now far from the gold reserves ... !!!

      If only Siluyan had enough spirit ... And then, judging by his physiognomy, he is weak ... (((
      1. Shur
        Shur 18 September 2014 01: 33
        0
        It’s only for oil industry workers and it’s profitable, they pay taxes cheaper laughing
        1. ETERNAL DOZZOR
          ETERNAL DOZZOR 18 September 2014 02: 42
          0
          Quote: Shur
          It’s only for oil industry workers and it’s profitable, they pay taxes cheaper


          Well, not only, but also gas and coal miners, RAW MATERIAL SECTOR, in a word! wassat
    4. SVAROGE
      SVAROGE 17 September 2014 13: 07
      +1
      ... "In fact, it turns out that today it is the West that is significantly investing in the revaluation of its currencies, and on the basis of this there is a struggle until the moment who is the first to get cold feet" ...

      I wouldn’t really count on Nabiulina ... Will do what Masons ORDER ....!
      1. Shur
        Shur 18 September 2014 01: 34
        0
        She is not in the box yet. laughing
    5. Scoun
      Scoun 17 September 2014 13: 11
      +1
      Quote: ognevvs
      All this is beneficial only to speculators

      + in this part)) but not to currency but to kryanka, speculators are now trying to inflate prices in order to weld as much as possible.
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Dollar will not hold back

      + I really hope so
      I work with an Australian office, we hammer their fasteners into the table at the rate of 50 UE))) Taiwan's fasteners (I do not know the whole background yet) the price remains the same level as before))
      Australians have become unprofitable (Europeans generally begin to merge) .. Now their European offices, including itching, have begun to lower the cost of fasteners.
      I think this situation will be very beneficial for the Asia-Pacific countries, their cars and other products will get a large market if they are quickly fussed in time.
      PS.
      Here, Komrad wrote about GDP, but so to speak, there is a racket from a business that is trying to solve issues in a different way, including in Ukraine
      1. Shur
        Shur 18 September 2014 01: 36
        0
        At the construction site, in the near future, everything European will disappear, acre of what Asians produce and they themselves are here.
    6. twviewer
      twviewer 17 September 2014 14: 14
      +1
      Quote: ognevvs
      price increase is a small, non-critical and the next step of abandoning the dollar, which is good.

      hde you all saw it ?! 28 official % (8 Central Bank rate + 20% ruble exchange rate) IS IT SMALL ??? and even this is not enough for these nits, and a sales tax of 3% is remembered, they wanted to enter, and this is less than a year.
    7. 00xxx00
      00xxx00 17 September 2014 17: 58
      0
      http://www.vestifinance.ru/articles/47016
    8. ETERNAL DOZZOR
      ETERNAL DOZZOR 18 September 2014 00: 31
      +1
      Quote: ognevvs
      All this is beneficial only to currency speculators at all levels and no more.

      There are two reasons, one of them is the resource-based economy of the Russian Federation, i.e. when the ruble falls for the same dollars, you can "buy" much more rubles.
      The entire economic system is sharpened to ensure that the rich and the rich rich, respectively ....
  2. Owl27
    Owl27 17 September 2014 09: 25
    +2
    They are shaking us from all sides! Figs you guessed it!
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 17 September 2014 09: 31
      +7
      Quote: Owl27
      Figs you guessed it!

      Figs are not figs, and the fall of the ruble does not bring us anything good. Rising prices for everything is provided.
      1. Owl27
        Owl27 17 September 2014 09: 37
        +22
        This is clear to everyone! But I’ll pay more for bread if this helps my homeland (sorry for my arrogance)
        1. Bayonet
          Bayonet 17 September 2014 10: 19
          +3
          Quote: Owl27
          But I’ll pay more for bread if this helps my homeland (sorry for my arrogance)

          It’s possible to pay more for bread, but we don’t live by bread alone, as they say. Now cheers, patriots, from a great mind about oysters, tryndet and mazzarella will begin.
          1. iwind
            iwind 17 September 2014 10: 31
            +4
            Quote: Bayonet
            Quote: Owl27
            But I’ll pay more for bread if this helps my homeland (sorry for my arrogance)

            It’s possible to pay more for bread, but we don’t live by bread alone, as they say. Now cheers, patriots, from a great mind about oysters, tryndet and mazzarella will begin.

            I do not recommend getting sick now ... Prices for treatment have grown decently. Why? Well, 80-90% honey. machinery is import.
            For example, with a course of 40 rubles. a set for heart surgery for children cost 150-170 thousand, now ...
            This is only an implantable pacemaker + surgery costs.
            1. Owl27
              Owl27 17 September 2014 10: 36
              +6
              Do not believe it, yesterday I picked up my mother's domestic analogues, many times cheaper than the prescribed medications, but the meaning is the same.
              1. iwind
                iwind 17 September 2014 10: 49
                +5
                Quote: Owl27
                Do not believe it, yesterday I picked up my mother's domestic analogues, many times cheaper than the prescribed medications, but the meaning is the same.

                From a cold, etc. I believe.
                If from something serious, there is no choice, or rather there is, but the chances of survival will fall.
                http://www.rg.ru/2013/01/29/buduschee.html
                http://spb.mk.ru/articles/2014/08/27/smozhem-li-my-prozhit-bez-zapadnykh-lekarst
                v.html
              2. Shur
                Shur 18 September 2014 01: 51
                0
                Still, those analogues were suitable, in the sense of rolling. Yes, God is a mother of health, but people do not suit everyone.
            2. Shur
              Shur 18 September 2014 01: 49
              0
              Don’t say anything at all. I think I will have to rely on higher powers. You need to be treated yourself, but it’s finances and the work is not waiting. I don’t want to bend either, but apparently, if it goes like that, I’ll have to blast the economy into the countryside, and there I’ll be lucky.
          2. Owl27
            Owl27 17 September 2014 10: 32
            -1
            Yes, let them trynd themselves, they get money for it. By the way, acquaintances said that Moscow is full of cheeses and jamon, and here in Krasnodar too, in the sense of Italian, French.
        2. FunkschNNX
          FunkschNNX 17 September 2014 10: 40
          +6
          Quote: Owl27
          This is clear to everyone! But I’ll pay more for bread if this helps my homeland (sorry for my arrogance)
          You will not help the Motherland with this, but compensate the losses to the capitalists who profit in any scenario and blame them on the "eternally decaying west" at the slightest boil.
        3. ETERNAL DOZZOR
          ETERNAL DOZZOR 18 September 2014 00: 44
          +1
          Quote: Owl27
          This is clear to everyone! But I’ll pay more for bread if this helps my homeland (sorry for my arrogance)


          Madame, let me give you love love love
          Py-sy. Now about the sad: you probably can’t see the fourth car !!! And your son will probably still have to serve in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.
          But you can do it because "He knows what he's doing" hi
        4. Shur
          Shur 18 September 2014 01: 46
          0
          Yes, but it will go into the pocket of the outbid and no further, nothing to do with the homeland, even the outbid "native". In principle, it is not clear why there is no control and strict control over prices for food and essential goods. Some bazaars in this direction. Although our local primier warned us that we will have such dodgers. In the Republic of Tatarstan, they generally try and oblige to keep local products and allocate them at price tags, etc. It should be so everywhere, but wherever there. And they will oblige for the reason that the local "type of elite" feed on everything and if someone does not share, then went from here. They keep everything, from oil to the agricultural complex. Clan Economy laughing Let's say they wanted to build an ikea, they were told so much to our budget and then you will take so much from the locals, they don’t, then stomp the forest and it still doesn’t.
      2. Lehanset
        Lehanset 17 September 2014 10: 23
        +1
        For the first time or what?
      3. ETERNAL DOZZOR
        ETERNAL DOZZOR 18 September 2014 00: 38
        +1
        Quote: Bayonet
        Figs are not figs, and the fall of the ruble does not bring us anything good. Rising prices for everything is provided.

        Man, but you said a week ago that everything is nishtyak !!!
        1. Bayonet
          Bayonet 18 September 2014 06: 26
          0
          Quote: ETERNAL DOZZOR
          Man, but you said a week ago that everything is nishtyak !!!

          "Nishtyak" does not apply to the fall of the ruble! Yes, and a week ago, the ruble did not fall like that.
      4. Shur
        Shur 18 September 2014 01: 38
        0
        But this is the task of the government, so that the domestic does not grow in price, otherwise there is a crime and I think DAM as an agent of influence will do it.
  3. Stiletto
    Stiletto 17 September 2014 09: 30
    +4
    Frightened we ... and we know the price of their candy wrappers. Let the euro and the dollar continue to ride like dill on the Maidan - on the drum. They are so agonizing smile
  4. Igor80
    Igor80 17 September 2014 09: 35
    +6
    Oh! We would stand the day, but the night hold out !!!
  5. brumgilda81
    brumgilda81 17 September 2014 09: 35
    +8
    C'mon, compared to the dashing 90s, it's all garbage in vegetable oil. We’ll trample, we’ve not seen this, but they are miserable, it’s even a pity fool
  6. evilrussian
    evilrussian 17 September 2014 09: 40
    +8
    I don’t hold money in dollars and euros, but the price increase is, of course, unpleasant. But, damn it, we survived the 90s, and we will survive it
  7. Gardamir
    Gardamir 17 September 2014 09: 42
    +21
    When the dollar was worth 70 kopecks, in my hometown, there were 2 factories, 5 combines, 3 factories. Yes, sausage was not always, but the meat and milk were natural. all people went to work and everyone had a home. The children did not know what the dollar was and probably therefore did not know the drugs.
    Now explain to me. We are told from morning till night about the worsening US economy, about American debt, and the dollar is growing. How so?
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 17 September 2014 10: 21
      0
      Quote: Gardamir
      We are told from morning till night about the worsening US economy, about American debt, and the dollar is growing. How so?

      And you listen less, we have been told this whole life about rotting capitalism all our lives.
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 17 September 2014 10: 37
        +4
        Yes, capitalism is rotting, and there are more rotten people in it. Many will sell their homeland for the opportunity to travel to Turkey and a car on credit. And many "patriots" buy dollars. But all the same to take bread for rubles.
        1. Bayonet
          Bayonet 17 September 2014 11: 32
          -1
          Quote: Gardamir
          Many for the opportunity to travel to Turkey and sell a car on credit their homeland.

          Here you are a personal example and show how to live - do not buy anything imported, do not go abroad, do not watch, do not listen, do not read, etc. and the like .... And you will be happy, and we will somehow in our own way ...
          1. Gardamir
            Gardamir 17 September 2014 12: 13
            0
            If I understand correctly, are you ready to sell your homeland for liberal values?
            1. Bayonet
              Bayonet 17 September 2014 12: 25
              +5
              Quote: Gardamir
              If I understand correctly, are you ready to sell your homeland for liberal values?

              And here are some "liberal values" and "sale of the Motherland" ??? When you turn on the brain, nothing but idiotic cliches does not come to mind, comrade? If for you a trip to Turkey and a car on credit is the ultimate dream and a sign of bourgeois decomposition, then it's funny to me !!!
              1. saag
                saag 17 September 2014 12: 28
                +3
                Quote: Bayonet
                If for you a trip to Turkey and a car on credit - the ultimate dream

                Indeed, why not go to Japan, for example? :-)
        2. Bayonet
          Bayonet 17 September 2014 12: 30
          -3
          Quote: Gardamir
          Yes, capitalism rots, and there are more rotten people in it.

          And you go and see. I ride and did not smell a rotten stench, on the contrary - cleanliness, and there are no more rotten people than ours, gloomy and evil faces - less.
          1. Shur
            Shur 18 September 2014 02: 13
            -1
            That’s what their whole façade is typical for, so that landfills on the African coast, and they have ecology, there is famine and disease, and they have prosperity. Do not la la. Just as they were colonialists, they stayed, and the fact that they are generally pretty people, so we know, they generally smile a lot, but they are comfortable, in fact, eating their fellow-ball.
        3. ETERNAL DOZZOR
          ETERNAL DOZZOR 18 September 2014 02: 29
          0
          Quote: Gardamir
          Yes, capitalism is rotting, and there are more rotten people in it. Many will sell their homeland for the opportunity to travel to Turkey and a car on credit. And many "patriots" buy dollars. But all the same to take bread for rubles.


          I agree with you, most of the people here even screaming Peje are screaming at the site, we’ll hold it, we’ll stand up and run for the elections in a different order!
          Last year I wrote prices are creeping, I have minuses, I say internal politics to hell again minuses ... and most importantly only He knows what he is doing!
    2. sabakina
      sabakina 17 September 2014 11: 41
      +2
      When the dollar was worth 70 cents ...
      Just stupidly join! good
    3. mihasik
      mihasik 17 September 2014 12: 34
      +5
      Quote: Gardamir
      When the dollar was worth 70 cents ...

      Officially, it cost 60 kopecks and could not only buy it, and whoever tried, rested in the jail. And the currency ruble (the so-called "VTB Checks"), from "Birch" and "Albatross", who does not know there were such foreign exchange shops, went at the rate of 1 currency ruble (VTB check) = 10 wooden rubles. Although in any case, not like now 1 in 38.
    4. Shur
      Shur 18 September 2014 02: 00
      0
      So because these bastards support their dollars with interventions and bombings and almost all over the world they press rubber goosily, and we alone suffer for a century from these satraps and their manual thugs. And you correctly noticed our GDP (the gross domestic product should not be confused with Vladimir Vladimirovich smile ) under the USSR "Place in GDP by PPP in volume: 2nd [1] (1990, before the collapse of the USSR in 1991)", and now the 6th, according to the statistics, of course.
  8. mitya24
    mitya24 17 September 2014 09: 44
    +15
    All their financial tricks and sanctions are broken on our "five acres", which are in every family, and which have grown overgrown after 10-12 years of stability. So, if the Sovi presses, we will open it again. Personally, I have 20-25 acres.
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 17 September 2014 10: 23
      +1
      Quote: mitya24
      Personally, I have a hectare 20-25.

      Yes you old man bourgeois - the landowner! And I have not one, but not much, and it is necessary.
    2. explorer
      explorer 17 September 2014 10: 25
      0
      therefore "they" do not like subsistence farming.

      Quote: mitya24
      Personally, I have a hectare 20-25.

      they can be bought from the heels of piglets and a cow. and don't smile lol the main thing is that skills and desire remain. hi
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet 17 September 2014 10: 32
        +1
        Quote: explorer
        they can be bought from the heels of piglets and a cow. and don't smile

        Place it all on the fifth floor and definitely stop smiling! Do not forget that the majority of the population lives in cities.
        1. Shur
          Shur 18 September 2014 02: 14
          0
          And this must be changed, otherwise we will bend there.
  9. Vend
    Vend 17 September 2014 09: 47
    +7
    Economists know more precisely that currency growth negatively affects the economy, as well as its decline. Yes, do not care about growth, there is the Crimea, there you can relax. And by the summer, the vacation season, I think a couple of warm countries will begin to settle with tour operators in national currencies. Not scary. wink Don’t hush, the Russians are not shy. It’s even on hand, faster small business will switch to the national currency, and the oligarchs can buy or build something else in Russia, operating on the difference in exchange rate. laughing
  10. shinobi
    shinobi 17 September 2014 09: 47
    +4
    I don’t give a damn. The less bought over the hill, the easier it is for our manufacturer. I looked at the interest labels on the labels that I carry on myself in the winter. It turned out, all of a sudden, that only the mobile from import.
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 17 September 2014 10: 30
      -1
      Quote: shinobi
      It turned out, all of a sudden, that from import only a mobile phone.

      Sly however - and household appliances?
      1. Scoun
        Scoun 17 September 2014 13: 18
        +4
        Quote: Bayonet
        Quote: shinobi
        It turned out, all of a sudden, that from import only a mobile phone.

        Sly however - and household appliances?

        What do you mean by household appliances? refrigerators, washing, for example, are mainly made here, you won’t find a TV set American or European; most of all your favorite mobile phones are made in the Asia-Pacific region, and speaking of the Nokia Epla brands, I easily agree to the Korean Samsung and by the way it’s now full of decent Chinese models and colleagues they order directly through the Internet and save almost three times.
        1. Bayonet
          Bayonet 17 September 2014 14: 42
          -1
          Quote: Scoun
          What do you mean by household appliances? refrigerators, washing, for example, are mainly made by us,

          That's right, we have a lot of foreign production and our people work there, taxes go to our treasury. Who wants to lose their jobs because of some stupid sanctions?
          1. Aldo
            Aldo 17 September 2014 15: 12
            +1
            and the components are from the west mainly ...
            1. Scoun
              Scoun 17 September 2014 15: 44
              +1
              Quote: Aldo
              and the components are from the west mainly ...

              That's right, but even here there is one "nuance", so many details are now easier to replace, for example, the Balu air conditioner was Chinese, now, as far as I know, an assembly appeared near Moscow, so this Chinese has a compressor (or whatever it is) Japanese, Just the majority of European and American origin. now it is possible (in many cases) to be replaced by producers of the Asia-Pacific region, but this process is not the fastest, but the return on it is strong and the higher the exchange rate of the euro and the dollar, the less profitable their goods are all I say on the assumption that Russia and other countries of the Asia-Pacific region are as possible quickly implement projects on mutual settlements in local currencies, because why are the Japanese so worried when their yen grows? or why the Americans reproach China for the fact that the Chinese deliberately keep the yuan rate, that the yuan rate should be higher all because in this case, their goods are much more attractive to foreign "partners". sloppy but something like that.
          2. Shur
            Shur 18 September 2014 02: 17
            0
            And why did they get that they will close production, while new ones are starting to build now, and not before sanctions? Capital for 300% of the profit will go to any crime, that’s what you should be guided by. I don’t care.
      2. Shur
        Shur 18 September 2014 02: 15
        0
        In everyday life Katayskaya, and for a long time and in large quantities.
  11. Good_Taxist
    Good_Taxist 17 September 2014 09: 49
    +11
    As always, Volodin Well done!
    I recall the parable:
    "When you see an old married couple holding hands, do not envy them, but remember that they went through the same shit as you! They just didn’t Broke, Stood !!!"
    HERE AND WE DO NOT BROKE, WE STAND !!!
  12. Vladimir M.V.
    Vladimir M.V. 17 September 2014 09: 51
    +6
    Can someone answer my questions?
    http://topwar.ru/34571-chernyy-oktyabr-ameriki-krah-1929-goda-vospominanie-o-bli

    zkom-buduschem.html # comment-id-1588240 - there are 3 questions
    http://topwar.ru/34571-chernyy-oktyabr-ameriki-krah-1929-goda-vospominanie-o-bli

    zkom-buduschem.html # comment-id-1588389 - here is 4 question
    Why for 1 dollar they give 33 rubles?
    Why for 1 euro give 43 rubles?
    Why for 1 lev give 22 rubles?
    Why for 1 pound give 51 rubles?

    why for 1 Argentine peso they give 1 American dollar, for 3,3 Mexican pesos they give 1 dollar, for 1 dollar they give 38 rubles

    Does it mean that the economies of Poland, Mexico, and the Argentines are "better" than Russia? Where to read about it? Why for $ 38 rubles, and not 1 to XNUMX? why is there no program to reduce the rate?
    .......
    Why is the ruble "so weak" in comparison with the countries of the "third world" (bulgaria, etc.) (compare at least the yen rate to world currencies)?
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 17 September 2014 10: 25
      +5
      Quote: Vladimir M.V.
      Can someone answer my questions?

      And why do they pay different salaries for the same labor (Russia - the USA, Moscow - Uryupinsk)?
      The price of money is not tied to the labor spent. She is attached to the Wishlist owners of the printing press. To look for logic in their Wishlist is not a thankful and unpromising occupation.
      Money from the engine of the economy has become a means of enslavement.
    2. Gardamir
      Gardamir 17 September 2014 10: 30
      +1
      Even the economy that is not stagnant is "better" at only 12 hryvnia per dollar. Capitalism grimaces.
      1. little man
        little man 17 September 2014 16: 09
        0
        This also surprised me.
        Well, here's the article and an explanation.
      2. Shur
        Shur 18 September 2014 02: 19
        0
        Not without injections under political and administrative control.
  13. Flinky
    Flinky 17 September 2014 09: 59
    +4
    Hold on.
  14. Aldo
    Aldo 17 September 2014 10: 02
    -10
    consequences of Crimea and New Russia. everything went to this. will be even worse, it’s definitely
    1. Lehanset
      Lehanset 17 September 2014 10: 27
      +3
      Do not panic!
      We didn’t live richly, and don’t start ...)))
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet 17 September 2014 10: 34
        0
        Quote: Lehanset
        We didn’t live richly, and don’t start ...

        Thanks for the kind words! And I wish you that!
      2. Shur
        Shur 18 September 2014 02: 23
        0
        In wealth doom, swarm live Translation of the inscription from the mirror found on about. Crete Grinevich G.S. Here are tips from the ancestors.
    2. Shur
      Shur 18 September 2014 02: 21
      0
      No, normal people are only better for us. Such a moral lift in people, thanks to the owners of the grandmother.
  15. parusnik
    parusnik 17 September 2014 10: 04
    +1
    A game of nerves, who blinks first and loses
    1. Shur
      Shur 18 September 2014 02: 23
      0
      They are bluffing.
  16. Bear13
    Bear13 17 September 2014 10: 16
    +1
    Quote: shinobi
    I don’t give a damn. The less bought over the hill, the easier it is for our manufacturer. I looked at the interest labels on the labels that I carry on myself in the winter. It turned out, all of a sudden, that only the mobile from import.


    Similarly, and then I have a Chinese mobile.
  17. Ober.K
    Ober.K 17 September 2014 10: 22
    0
    Why support foreign manufacturers !?
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: ognevvs
    All this is beneficial only to currency speculators at all levels and no more.

    Sorry, but you don’t understand the niche. The dollar will not be restrained and not because the Central Bank of the Russian Federation is so bad. And simply because now they will push it to the top with all their might, but accurately and artificially. An expensive dollar is a blow to goods from abroad .Goods, cars, appliances -this will all increase in price, as well as products maid in nenasha. Stupidly there is support for its manufacturer.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 17 September 2014 10: 26
      +1
      Quote: Ober.K
      Why support foreign manufacturers !?

      What strangers?
  18. Aldo
    Aldo 17 September 2014 10: 25
    -12
    Now the tenge will also fall. Our economies are interconnected. Something I do not want to pay for disassembling the neighbors, but I have to. But your Crimea!
    1. Sergei 57
      Sergei 57 17 September 2014 10: 54
      0
      As gas on the cheap so we are neighbors.
      1. Aldo
        Aldo 17 September 2014 11: 00
        -9
        we don’t buy gas from you, don’t worry. On the contrary, you download from us through the Caspian pipeline. Sometimes you need to open your eyes and find out what is happening in the world really and not live in your cheers-patriotic world.
        1. Shur
          Shur 18 September 2014 02: 26
          0
          Kazakhstan will buy from Gazprom about 3 billion cubic meters of gas to supply the southern regions of the country during the heating period of 2013-2014, a little more than a billion cubic meters are planned to be obtained from China, the Minister of Oil and Gas of the Republic Uzakbay Karabalin said at a government meeting on Tuesday, September 24 ... "As of today, agreements with Gazprom on the exchange and supply of gas to the south of Kazakhstan have in principle been reached, they will be signed in the fourth quarter. Under the agreement, 3 billion cubic meters of gas will be supplied, and another 1 billion 130 million through the Turkmenistan-Uzbekistan-China system. Thus, the volume of borrowings from the Chinese side will be about a billion (cubic meters), "Karabalin said, RIA Novosti reports.
          Read details at UNIAN: http://economics.unian.net/energetics/835361-kazahstan-zakupit-u-rossii-i-kitaya
          -bolee-4-mlrd-kubometrov-gaza-na-otopitelnyiy-sezon.html
          1. Aldo
            Aldo 18 September 2014 09: 01
            0
            so this is the gas of Turkmen and Uzbek, which Gazprom pumps through us
            1. Shur
              Shur 19 September 2014 00: 17
              0
              Yes, even Syrian, how does this affect the fact that it is purchased from Gazprom?
              1. Aldo
                Aldo 19 September 2014 16: 57
                0
                and so you transport it through us and we buy it at market value! Not for such as in Ukraine they sold but for the MARKET! You have a crooked idea that the Russian Federation always gives everything to everyone on a cheap price, so it’s only Ukraine and Belarus, we are not among them and we don’t have to reproach us with this.
    2. T80UM1
      T80UM1 17 September 2014 11: 01
      +3
      tell me what "Crimea" was in February 2009 and 2014 after the main promises ??? Maybe ours just got drunk? Which is more likely ... And why is the price of gas going up?
      1. ETERNAL DOZZOR
        ETERNAL DOZZOR 18 September 2014 02: 38
        0
        Quote: T80UM1
        Maybe our just snickered?


        So they have been eating three throats since 1991, they won’t get drunk!
    3. Bombardier
      Bombardier 17 September 2014 11: 02
      +2
      there would be no Crimea, they found something else. This is obvious. We are on your feet, and this is something some people in the world do not need. And you thought we would be allowed to be strong for your health? Do you think the Ukrainians wanted to fight? Someone asked them?
      Here's a set of questions ... If you think that if you stood on the sidelines, Kazakhstan would be left alone and allowed to develop, then you are deeply mistaken.
      1. Aldo
        Aldo 17 September 2014 11: 11
        -7
        yes, of course, now the rotten west is to blame, they themselves provoked and changed their shoes.
        1. Bombardier
          Bombardier 17 September 2014 11: 18
          +2
          We ourselves provoke a thousand years, and when we didn’t provoke and were good, the population was reduced and degraded. Open a map with NATO bases around the world. Are we provoking them? And open the map with the bases of Russia ...
          Are we provoking them? By our existence, we provoke them. And then we change our shoes ...
          1. Bombardier
            Bombardier 17 September 2014 11: 26
            0
            Here is an example of a NATO base map. THERE ARE WE PROVOING THEM!
            1. 70BSN
              70BSN 17 September 2014 12: 47
              +1
              Yes, the smell of the soldiers themselves amers are rather weak !!! This is the statement of those who took off fought and after them we respected EVEN MORE !!! "AFGHANISTAN" soldier
        2. Shur
          Shur 18 September 2014 02: 29
          0
          True independence is expensive in our world, is it difficult for you to realize?
        3. Shur
          Shur 19 September 2014 00: 23
          0
          I wonder how you would react to, for example, "spring" in Kazakhstan. Seems to me positive. I hope the core of our people will avoid this. All this is cheating, just a divorce.
    4. Roman 11
      Roman 11 17 September 2014 11: 51
      +2
      Quote: Aldo
      Something I don’t want to pay for disassembling the neighbors, but I have to. But your Crimea!
      Guy minus you for the panic that you snot like a woman letting go? Crimea is not only ours, but also yours ...... don’t be lazy, you will earn hands and feet, you’ll come to
      Yalta rest. Without Crimea, sanctions would have been an honor — it means they’re slander and respected, and not like gays who are all on one face from the Baltic to the Atlantic and the whole orchestra slavishly screw their bolts ....... Now all the oil and gas lazy people will faint, they say the fifth point needs to be torn off and worked ...... heroes Panfilovtsy. This is only an increase in prices and exchange rates, but what if the enemy sets foot on the ground?
      1. Aldo
        Aldo 17 September 2014 13: 03
        0
        Well, it was possible to fly to Yalta and during Ukraine.
        1. Shur
          Shur 18 September 2014 02: 32
          0
          The service was not the same and the attitude was different, and so was the joy and the greater comfort.
      2. Shur
        Shur 18 September 2014 02: 31
        0
        Some are already preparing rushnyushki and bread salt
    5. EvaFerrari
      EvaFerrari 17 September 2014 11: 54
      0
      Well, well, how to drive your goods to Russia without customs duties, so you are the first of all the first.
      1. Aldo
        Aldo 17 September 2014 13: 06
        0
        So how many Russia are you implementing your basins here? Or industrial equipment and food. So I will open your eyes to your export to Kazakhstan 10 times higher than your import. Simply put, you sell 10 times more to us without duties than we do to you. And you are not selling raw materials, but machinery and equipment. So don’t need Lala
        1. Bombardier
          Bombardier 17 September 2014 13: 21
          +1
          That is, you want to say that before the events in Ukraine, it suited you, because in your words everything was fine. Does it depress you now? I don’t understand something ....
          Then close all the doors - and you will be happy!
        2. Shur
          Shur 18 September 2014 02: 33
          0
          And from you dripping Katay, so much dripping.
  19. Arguntinec
    Arguntinec 17 September 2014 10: 26
    +4
    Well, not much worse. Us that - and we grow stronger. We also bargained for the tenge, but for now it’s possible to live until the dust.
    If you want to have Crimea, you have to pay. If you don’t want to - anyway, you would be forced to pay for something else. For example, for an increase in the Black Sea Fleet to stand up to the NATO fleet on the Black Sea. They will not lag behind. And, in any case, a large piece of land is so cool, you can’t measure it with billions.
    And in connection with this bodyag, devaluation of the ruble / tenge is manna from heaven for the government. And not only for our countries, just for our countries it is very good, because You can blame your flaws on the machinations of enemies.
    But it’s easier to pay pensions and salaries. They sold abroad for a billion dollars, and domestically this is not 34 billion rubles, but 40.
    So a depreciation is more a psychological weapon, according to reputation, like, they’ll hit. But after all, the Japanese deliberately lowered the exchange rate in order to increase exports, and their type of praise is again double standards. So you spit on it, we are getting stronger.
    1. Aldo
      Aldo 17 September 2014 10: 30
      -6
      Aha grow stronger every day under the threats of his older brother)))
      1. T80UM1
        T80UM1 17 September 2014 11: 03
        +2
        In order to have a drum for such things, you need to develop your production ... And if it is not profitable, then they will unite in economic unions with a single currency ...
  20. valentina-makanalina
    valentina-makanalina 17 September 2014 10: 29
    +2
    We survived the Soviet abundance, we will survive the capitalist one.
    The main thing is to hold on and not give up.
  21. igor-pchelkin
    igor-pchelkin 17 September 2014 10: 30
    +8
    Friends, do not bother about this. Indeed, for happiness, a person does not need neither dollars, nor euros, nor even rubles. Health - you can’t buy it! Good appetite - you can’t buy it! Healthy sleep - you can’t buy it! A smart head - they won’t sell it! Friend is not bought! Try to buy the love of a smart and pretty woman! And the world is arranged so wisely and harmoniously that if you are friends with God, then you have enough money for all your REASONABLE needs. Dollars are neatly cut and beautifully colored paper. The cost of 100 dollar bills 3 cents. They gain value only in our OFF brain.
    1. Aldo
      Aldo 17 September 2014 10: 36
      -3
      yes, tell tales now. I’m okay, I’m an adult man and I can take care of my family with the support of Allah, but what about the poor and destitute, with the old and old women? Are they willing to pay for these ambitions? and will their modest pockets put it out?
    2. saag
      saag 17 September 2014 11: 03
      +2
      Quote: igor-pchelkin
      Friend is not bought! Try to buy the love of a smart and pretty woman!

      When you have a lot of money, the number of friends and smart and nice women in your environment increases in a strange way, what would it be, can everyone want to touch the beautiful? :-)
    3. Bayonet
      Bayonet 17 September 2014 11: 39
      -1
      Quote: igor-pchelkin
      Health - you can’t buy it!

      You can’t buy health - you will die! Medicines, treatment ...
    4. doctor
      doctor 17 September 2014 11: 42
      0
      That's for sure. I think that 1dollar = 25 rubles.
  22. Victor1
    Victor1 17 September 2014 10: 31
    +1
    The Central Bank is a Western * prostitute, it’s time to nationalize it for a long time,
    he doesn’t specifically stabilize the situation in order to intimidate people ..
    1. Aldo
      Aldo 17 September 2014 10: 40
      -6
      and what will you do with it? start to print dollars? Delitant
      1. Shur
        Shur 18 September 2014 02: 38
        0
        Listen, this is a thought. Yes, they must be printed correctly and brought down a little more. War is so war.
  23. FunkschNNX
    FunkschNNX 17 September 2014 10: 36
    +2
    Every time in front of a big shit, we are told: "Calm, everything is under control", and then bam and devaluation or inflation of 10% per month. It's time to make it a popular sign.
  24. Shadowcat
    Shadowcat 17 September 2014 10: 48
    0
    An interesting point.

    1 CNY to USD = 6.29
    1 CNY to THB = 5.25

    1 USD to RUB = 38.25
    1 USD to THB = 32.24
  25. runway
    runway 17 September 2014 10: 51
    -1
    It turns out that there are still those who believe that they are trying to take us "out of fear."
    In fact, there is an economic war against Russia. Weakening the ruble is one of the tasks of our opponents. The Central Bank will quickly run out of funds to support the ruble exchange rate with weak industry, agriculture and the purchasing power of the population. Especially if we "cut" the oil and gas pipe ...
    The weakening of cash injections in the donor regions (and most of them) will cause not only peaceful demonstrations. The weakening of influence on the regions of the state will cause a rise in separatist sentiments in various parts of the country. Even the two millionth army of internal troops will not be able to cope with this problem.
    This is briefly about what we are facing the weakening of the ruble.
    A short-term exit is seen only in alliance with China.
    The Chinese understand that it is they who are the main object of the fulfillment of the US plans for winning the championship in the world. Therefore, at an accelerated pace, they are strengthening their potential, merging their economy with the enemy. Then it will be difficult for Washington to strike without harming itself.
    Why ask for us an alliance with China only a "short-term exit"?
    Yes, because it’s very expensive to keep a country like Russia as a donor, even for China. But they themselves already know how to pump oil and gas.
  26. Djozz
    Djozz 17 September 2014 10: 59
    +1
    September is the maturity of bonds issued by large companies, it is 20 billion dollars, therefore the value of the currency is growing, the next payment period is December at around 32 billion. dollars, economists believe that the currency will become cheaper until December.
  27. ivanzu87
    ivanzu87 17 September 2014 11: 12
    +1
    Laughter, laughter, but a high dollar is a big problem for our large business, because corporate debt is $ 700 billion ...
  28. air wolf
    air wolf 17 September 2014 11: 15
    +1
    What difference does it make how much is a dollar a dollar, the most important thing is its purchasing power in the domestic market! I vote for the ruble because I live in Russia and I don’t give a damn about abroad, I’ve come across as you will come homesick and around some gays, even in Ukraine, although everyone seems to speak Russian.
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 17 September 2014 11: 45
      +1
      Quote: air wolf
      Who cares how much a dollar is worth,

      Well, if the salary is in dollars, then you can spit ...
  29. Roman 11
    Roman 11 17 September 2014 11: 20
    0
    Russia is growing dollar and euro are trying to take on fright No, about fright does not work here! This is a normal working time on the exchange. It has always been, is and will be - many, from small speculators to large investors, earn and lose money on exchanges ........ and here is such a chance in the trend to earn a lot. So they earn, because both fear and greed are common to exchanges. As soon as the Central Bank begins to intervene, growth will stop. The psychological level is 40 rubles per green, the time range is 41-45. All IMHO.
  30. Ugrumiy
    Ugrumiy 17 September 2014 12: 02
    +1
    In my opinion, you just need to abandon payments for oil and gas in dollars and make them in rubles, then the rate will settle down and nobody will need an American candy wrapper.
    1. supply manager
      supply manager 17 September 2014 12: 30
      +1
      Hmm, here I’m koumeku:
      our expenses are growing, for a variety of reasons, expenses are mainly in rubles. We sell gas and gas for the currency for which, according to the central bank scheme, we buy rubles. Accordingly, the lower the ruble exchange rate, the more rubles we can buy for the currency we earned from the sale of oil and gas, thereby saturating our own budget with the ruble.
      So who actually provokes the fall of the ruble?
  31. bubla5
    bubla5 17 September 2014 13: 27
    +1
    In Russia, there has never been a worthy government and ruler, and there won’t be either an alcoholic or someone who doesn’t get to the end, so their eyes only fill with patriotism
  32. LIS 25
    LIS 25 17 September 2014 13: 33
    +1
    We survived the 90s when we drunk Borka, and now with GDP, we’ll survive the more. yes
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 17 September 2014 14: 33
      +1
      Quote: LIS 25
      We survived the 90s when we drunk Borka, and now with GDP, we’ll survive the more.

      We survived, survive, and when will we live?
      1. ETERNAL DOZZOR
        ETERNAL DOZZOR 18 September 2014 00: 33
        0
        Quote: Bayonet
        We survived, survive, and when will we live?

        but Peugeot promised a beautiful life !!!
        Many hope ....
  33. shel
    shel 17 September 2014 13: 50
    0
    Summer has passed
    Autumn has come,
    Euro forty nine
    Dollar thirty eight ...
    And then fall will pass,
    And winter will come
    The dollar will be forty
    Two Euros are Drinking ...
  34. mackonya
    mackonya 17 September 2014 14: 19
    -1
    Trying to hold the course, with all these interventions, is too expensive and so far a premature action. As it seems to me the picture when the nat. the currency "sank" and the barrel "sank" - all this resembles man-made (directed) actions, so it looks like someone invested in this form of aggression, let's see if "he" gets his dividends.
  35. alicante11
    alicante11 17 September 2014 15: 07
    0
    The issue of exchange rates is quite interesting.
    We simply cannot compete with amers in the currency race for the simple reason that they print bucks, and we earn. This is like a lo.hotron known and popular in the 90s.
    Therefore, the only way out of this situation is to untie the ruble from the dollar and establish a hard domestic exchange rate. As far as I understand, this is called a refusal to convert the ruble. At the same time, importers and exporters will sell and buy dollars at the same price and will not be able to raise prices for their products. At the same time, decoupling from the bucks also solves the liquidity problem of our economy. Since we will be able to independently issue currency and if we allow it to finance real projects in construction or production, there will be no acceleration of inflation. Moreover, the ruble is already underestimated, and even more seriously than the article says.
    1. Aldo
      Aldo 17 September 2014 15: 11
      -1
      Yes, in the course of the USSR it returns to the Russian Federation ...
      1. Shur
        Shur 18 September 2014 02: 39
        +1
        Oh harasho, I hope you have providence in words. If the best returns from there, then who is against it?
  36. Arguntinec
    Arguntinec 17 September 2014 15: 27
    0
    Dear Aldo,
    I agree with you that a pale-faced brother shakes a lot of things with us in a not entirely honest way. Even after joining the TS FIG what you sell in Russia. The fact that they drag vodka through the fence is not counted. Balance in favor of the Russian Federation, as Russia has many relatively honest ways of taking money from friends. It is also clear that devaluation is good for exporters, and for importers it is a complete crap, and for pensioners and state employees this is inflation, which eats up their denyuzhku, and getting, though regularly, constantly cheaper wooden ones is not very sweet. It is clear that our government is a bunch of mediocrity and grabbers, and in the Russian Federation all corrupt skins and liberals, but their merit in devaluation is only half, and the second half is still on the conscience of Amers. I’ve been hanging around two sites here (inosmi and Khazina, I recommend it to you), here’s what one German wrote, and Khazin also has a good description of the reason for this behavior of amers:

    http://inosmi.ru/world/20140914/222994500.html
    16/09/2014, 14:02
    - In your joint book with Wolfgang Effenberger, Wiederkehr der Hasardeure: Schattenstrategen, Kriegstreiber, stille Profiteure 1914 und heute , you expressed concern that we are on the way to the third world war. How can you justify it?

    - If I do not want the disputed issues to be resolved peacefully, I have only a military option. Americans put it on him - all over the world. The Taliban, against which our soldiers fought in Afghanistan for 12 years, is an American creation funded by Saudi Arabia, just like an Islamic state in Syria and Iraq. We see the same thing in the case of Ukraine. The German Foreign Minister and his Polish and French colleagues propose papers for consideration by agreement, everyone approves them, and after that the right-wing forces on the Maidan sabotage any decision in the interests of the United States. In Germany and in Europe, we must make efforts so as not to get lost in this general trend. What we need is a return to the tried and tested diplomatic means of dialogue, which we have almost managed to achieve at the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe and which, however, have been destroyed.
    1. Aldo
      Aldo 17 September 2014 16: 29
      0
      Yes, of course, Amers is an excellent occasion for practicing in the Russian Federation. But 70% of the fault of the Russian Federation is all the same, because such issues as in Ukraine are not solved by weapons, this is essentially a diplomatic and political failure.
      1. Arguntinec
        Arguntinec 17 September 2014 19: 35
        +2
        Well, dear fellow countryman, about 70 percent - that you greatly flatter the Russian Federation. No matter how offended they are, but the Russian Federation is not a superpower, so much it will not stretch. If I say that the fault is 50%, then now I will be a flatterer, 30 percent - just right. And everything else is still the fault of the only superpower today.
        Yes, I forgot to insert the sacred - this only Tryndets soon.
        The fact that failure - I agree. In theory, it was necessary to put all these billions of dollars that are now flying into the pipe into an elementary purchase of Ukraine, its economy and leadership, and it is second in the world in terms of venality.
        I myself do not promise too. Here, offer me a couple of yards, I would also sell something. Here, only, not a single dog offers anything. Well I suck, what can you do. But the engineer, and sounds proudly.
  37. I think so
    I think so 17 September 2014 15: 47
    +1
    As long as in Russia the "democrats" will dominate the banking sector ... The country and people will be EASY prey for EVEN SMALL SPECULATORS ... NOBODY IS GOING to restore order in the country and are just looking for an excuse to CONVINCE PEOPLE that everything is so and it is THERE IS NO OTHER OPTION! Therefore, it happens that PEOPLE LET THE AUTHORITIES DO LOOK AND EMPTY!
  38. chief.matros
    chief.matros 17 September 2014 16: 03
    0
    Pin_dos act by the same methods as in the collapse of the USSR, i.e. artificially lower oil prices, and here it all depends on the Arabs, whether they want to suffer losses for so long. the Americans probably again promised them a bunch of the latest weapons at the lowest prices, and here we are in tension because of this.
  39. Nitarius
    Nitarius 17 September 2014 18: 50
    0
    It's time for the Central Bank of the Russian Federation to explode! Private shop of Rothschilds and Rockefellers!
    in another I DO NOT SEE ANYTHING!


    1. Shur
      Shur 18 September 2014 02: 44
      0
      It’s time to privately blow up their shadow management and this is what HOW on their head! laughing
  40. Provincial_71
    Provincial_71 17 September 2014 20: 41
    +1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Dear dollar, it’s a blow to goods from abroad. Clothes, machinery, equipment will all increase in price, as well as maid in nenasha products. Support for their manufacturer is stupid.
    I am with two hands! Only now there are doubts that our manufacturer uses this support to expand its business and, therefore, saturate the market with a subsequent decrease, or at least stabilize prices. Most likely, he will react traditionally - he will hit the jackpot, merge into the cash and try to hide it somewhere in offshores until better times. And if the zanykanny capital will ever return to the domestic economy, it will be in the form of a speculative exchange "foreign investment". This is at its best. Alas...
  41. Bowless
    Bowless 17 September 2014 21: 11
    0
    They talked about drugs. So you can violate their patents en masse, and even arrange dumping abroad.
  42. Second
    Second 17 September 2014 22: 18
    +1
    The fall of the ruble is a blow to domestic industry. This is the alpha and omega of any economy.
    The high exchange rate is beneficial to importers and those who work on imported equipment; it is disadvantageous to those who are forced to compete with imports (these industries are artificially becoming uncompetitive and "curtailed") and exporters.
    For those who forgot in the USSR, the dollar was equal to 70 kopecks. On the black market, speculators had 1 in 2, 1 in 3. Industry in the USSR was powerful. Now, in fact, we mainly export raw materials. Oil, gas, forest. There is also engineering products, but it is simply incorrect to compare the industrial products of the USSR and Russia. So a high dollar is a blow to domestic industry. She does not stand the competition.
  43. Mercenary
    Mercenary 17 September 2014 23: 23
    -1
    It's funny to read our analysts "the hryvnia exchange rate fell below the plinth. Ukraine is poor, economic and financial collapse" And our poor fellow RUBLE? Probably taking acceleration before knocking over the dollar with the yuan.
  44. Kostya pedestrian
    Kostya pedestrian 18 September 2014 00: 04
    -1
    Russia again does not collect the filly, but sits in bondage. How can I take a country containing the entire periodic table into a fright? And did they burn all the grandmothers and tankers who knew how to heal from fear?

    Why stagnate?

    I’m just learning the secret of Japanese success. Like this? Winners must queue for visas. And the Japanese - repeaters can go wherever they want.

    This is not good when those who are let down are better than thieves live, and, from thieves, they steal.

    You just study the isosceles triangle - while the Khrushchev rubbed us into the mud and knelt some in front of the altar, these japs ​​decided that they were blue, which Mr. Zhukov himself defeated.


    If you think about it, it’s GAZ Starling that dealers should go wherever they want, contemplating their dealerships all over the WHITE, and not Nissan Toyota.

    If the wiki does not lie, then the area of ​​Fuji can be calculated in one of the following ways:

    S = \ frac 1 2 a ^ 2 \ sin \ beta = \ frac 1 2 ab \ sin \ alpha = \ frac {b ^ 2} {4 \ tan \ frac \ beta 2};



  45. Sherlovogor
    Sherlovogor 18 September 2014 07: 51
    0
    From $ in general he refused, what for he needs.
  46. Aldo
    Aldo 18 September 2014 15: 45
    0
    The refusal of the Russian Federation from dollars is like a mosquito bite for the US economy.
    1. Shur
      Shur 19 September 2014 00: 39
      0
      Yes, there would have been that bite, but this would have been a precedent. Not now far not now, but not far off. Since politics is a continuation of the economy, then everything is ahead.