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Poland resumed reverse gas supplies to Ukraine

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Warsaw announced that reverse gas supplies to Ukraine have been resumed. About this, with reference to the press secretary of the Polish company Gaz-System SA, Ms. Polkowska tells RIA News.

Poland resumed reverse gas supplies to Ukraine


In the middle of the week, the Polish side stated that the flow of Russian gas to the country decreased by about 24%. Immediately after fixing the reduction in supply, Warsaw announced that gas reversal to Ukraine was ceasing. An official representative of Gazprom noted that the company did not reduce the volume of supply of "blue fuel" for Poland. At the same time, Kiev, as usual, accused Russia of interfering with the implementation of the agreements reached between Ukraine and Poland. For a moment: the agreements concerned Russian gas ...

Today Poland resumes the reverse. It is carried out through the point Germanovice. At the same time, representatives of Polish gas transmission companies do not explain whether the previous volumes of Russian gas supplies to the country have been restored.

On the eve, Yatsenyuk said that he hoped for the restoration of reverse gas supplies from Poland, since, as it turns out, Kiev made an advance payment to Warsaw for several months ahead. And you see, there are no funds to buy gas from Gazprom in the treasury of Ukraine ...
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  1. Nevsky_ZU
    Nevsky_ZU 12 September 2014 13: 49
    +36
    Children-punks, by golly. Gazprom must count everything to the penny and cent to Poland, Slovakia and another black market operator. You need to pay for the goods, but for Russophobia in double.
    1. severniy
      severniy 12 September 2014 13: 55
      +10
      The affairs of the Lord are amazing (even though I am an atheist ....) the fools in the world will never be transferred, as the soap operas do not end, well, it's getting cold, we'll laugh soon ....
      1. insafufa
        insafufa 12 September 2014 14: 00
        +4
        On the eve of Yatsenyuk said that he hoped to restore reverse gas supplies from Poland, as it turns out, Kiev made an advance payment to Warsaw for several months in advance.


        The rabbit is definitely geyputana lol but no words courtesan egghead wassat
        1. ispaniard
          ispaniard 12 September 2014 14: 16
          +2
          "Rabbit" turns out to be even cooler than "Baboon" only announced that the Poles stopped the reverse as they immediately resumed it ... Maybe "Rabbit" needs to voice its claims to the eastern regions of Poland? ..)))
        2. military
          military 12 September 2014 15: 14
          +2
          Quote: insafufa
          The rabbit is definitely geyputana but no words courtesan egghead

          strange he, this rabbit ... stubborn ... instead of crunching a cabbage, he prefers to suck a carrot ... repeat
      2. Evgen4ik
        Evgen4ik 12 September 2014 14: 00
        +15
        In my opinion, it is obvious that the gas pipeline has worn out ... it would be necessary to get up for repairs .... It is advisable at the beginning of frosts ... 3-4 months, well, as our hard workers love to do ... send a plumber team there ...
        1. VICTOR-61
          VICTOR-61 12 September 2014 14: 12
          +14
          Why do they supply gas to Ukraine?
      3. Balbes_I
        Balbes_I 12 September 2014 14: 05
        +3
        These are cunning neighbors, but sooner or later they will wrap any brawl at someone else’s expense with an awesome nanobolt in the most cunning place ....

        I wonder if there is a clause in the contract with Poland to ban the resale of Russian gas?
      4. Момент
        Момент 12 September 2014 14: 06
        +2
        It is necessary to deal with Poland. Sanctions will be introduced, otherwise they will be the smartest.
      5. igorra
        igorra 12 September 2014 19: 33
        0
        Well, yes, we will laugh then, and someone will jump. In Africa there is a tribe, along with the closest relatives of hohlov, the Masai will curl. they also jump forever, though they will be bolder than ukrov, they go to the lions with one spear and shield.
    2. Giant thought
      Giant thought 12 September 2014 14: 06
      +1
      So we need to cut back on Poland’s gas supply.
    3. jjj
      jjj 12 September 2014 14: 11
      +16
      I watched people rush into the SCO. In fact, while the United States is bogged down in the Middle East, while it is trying to tame Russia together with Europe, at the same time the largest world players gather around Russia: China, Latin America. Asking India, Iran and Pakistan. Southeast Asian countries are eyeing. Already this is a real force.
      What impressed you at the beginning of the SCO meetings
      1. China directly stated that it will continue to support Russia and help withstand external pressure.
      2. Mongolia is ready for ever and ever to be friends with China and Russia. All issues are resolved.
      3. The head of Uzbekistan, Karimov, looked very scared and didn’t kiss Putin’s legs a little and he kept saying that he was ready to learn from Russia and check the course. Repeated several times. Apparently the West was preparing the next revolution just in Uzbekistan. At the same time, Uzbekistan is ready to launch the standing railway and put Tajikistan on its cargo. Tajikistan is ready for peace with Uzbekistan.
      4. A new transoceanic port will be built in China so that goods can be transported to and from Europe for the rest of the world. The New Silk Road begins to grow in infrastructure.
      5. Putin’s proposal to develop closer economic ties within the SCO aroused great interest. And we should all trade, avoiding the dollar. In plain language, this means that the SCO countries are actually destroying the US economy. This is a challenge to the military.
      1. insafufa
        insafufa 12 September 2014 14: 24
        -1
        here Karimov recently put his daughter under house arrest.
        Demonstrating today that he does not give descent even to his own children, Islam Karimov manifests himself as a real “patriot” and a person “with state thinking,” and not just as a previously well-known despot and autocrat. It shows that for the sake of the image and interests of the state, he is ready to restrain even his daughter, whom until recently he himself gave all possible preferences, ”said Daniil Kislov.

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        1. UzRus
          UzRus 12 September 2014 16: 47
          +1
          here Karimov recently put his daughter under house arrest. - Do not be fooled by vile and deceitful lies. Moreover, such a provocateur as Kislov citizenship ..
      2. The comment was deleted.
      3. enot73
        enot73 12 September 2014 14: 32
        +7
        And for the purchase of gas from Gazprom in the treasury of Ukraine, you see, there are no funds ...
        The thing is Kiev’s reluctance to pay Russia old debts.
      4. zao74
        zao74 12 September 2014 15: 08
        +1
        The war has long been ... economic.
      5. UzRus
        UzRus 12 September 2014 16: 39
        +3
        The head of Uzbekistan, Karimov, looked very scared and didn’t kiss Putin’s legs a little and he kept saying that he was ready to learn from Russia and check the course. Repeated several times. Apparently the West was preparing the next revolution just in Uzbekistan. At the same time, Uzbekistan is ready to launch the standing railway and put Tajikistan on its cargo. Tajikistan is ready for peace with Uzbekistan. - Dear, not Karimov, but Karimov. Our President says a lot to whom (East is a delicate matter), but he does it his own way. I dare to assure you, the West is not preparing any revolution for us. As for the launch of the standing railway (probably, I mean the 100-kilometer section between Bekabad and Kokand) - thank you for the news, I have not heard, this is very good. And yes, you are very right - you must be friends with your neighbors!
        1. navara399
          navara399 12 September 2014 16: 45
          0
          Be sure to be friends!
    4. 12423 student
      12423 student 12 September 2014 14: 39
      0
      In the middle of the week, the Polish side said that Russian gas supplies decreased by about 24%. I wonder where did he go?
      probably stolen, no one else.
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 12 September 2014 21: 12
        0
        Quote: student 12423
        In the middle of the week, the Polish side said that Russian gas supplies decreased by about 24%. I wonder where did he go

        It wasn’t !!!))) In order to ensure reverse supplies, the Psheks, under the pretext of approaching cold weather, applied for an increase in gas supplies by these 24% from Russia. Gazprom, realizing that this deed was from the evil one, extended this application, explaining that there was a planned injection of gas into underground storage facilities. Psheks tasted that they would have to give their gas (24% is a lot) and sad))) The money was received, and they probably have to be returned .... In their situation, it is best to return the payment with apples !!! They, in the sense of apples, also stimulate the process of gas formation i.e. flatulence, which is not the worst option for Yatsenyuk - it’s both tasty and stuffy)))
    5. Victor R
      Victor R 12 September 2014 21: 46
      0
      Tyu, tu, tu, tu ... We took our "harbuzy". Don't collect high psheki.
  2. bmv04636
    bmv04636 12 September 2014 13: 50
    +3
    Question Dill Lviv region will pay for gas
  3. fox21h
    fox21h 12 September 2014 13: 50
    +1
    I think ours will find a worthy answer.
  4. Mishanya 84
    Mishanya 84 12 September 2014 13: 52
    +3
    Well Dumb !!!!!! This phrase M. Zadornov now refer to all scales of America.
  5. 4445333
    4445333 12 September 2014 13: 54
    +3
    Some kind of turbidity, lied to the end.
  6. demon1978
    demon1978 12 September 2014 13: 55
    +4
    So twirl syudy every day, and break the valve for a short time !!!! Jams in the most uncomfortable position, at the crucial moment, what will they do ??? !!! request
  7. figwam
    figwam 12 September 2014 13: 56
    +1
    And you will be cured and you will be cured ...
  8. Commander
    Commander 12 September 2014 13: 56
    +1
    It’s probably time to teach the geyropa a lesson !!! Let drown with firewood !!! Block the valve for a while, let it twitch. And it's better to do it in the winter !!!
  9. pahom54
    pahom54 12 September 2014 13: 58
    +3
    Ukraine and Poland are two political moons, so you shouldn’t be especially surprised ...
    Let Gazprom now think not about Ukraine's debt (it will most likely have to be written off, whatever one may say - they have nothing to give it to), but about how to find a loophole in the supply contracts, accuse them of violating the pshek and cut their supplies .. Let them then think, whose ass to warm in winter - their own or Ukrainian ...
    1. Grbear
      Grbear 12 September 2014 14: 13
      0
      Quote: pahom54

      Let Gazprom now think not about Ukraine's debt (it will most likely have to be written off, whatever one may say - they have nothing to give it to), but about how to find a loophole in the agreements ...

      I think there is no need to worry about this ... They will gather all the "violators" into a handful and swat them. Well, not one by one chase them. Not solid hi
      But debts do not have a statute of limitations, that is ... Before presentation, Ukraiyna bully
      1. papas-57
        papas-57 12 September 2014 16: 02
        +3
        '' They will gather all the "violators" in a bunch. '' They will cheat, suffer and disperse. And everything will be the same. Don't you know Gazprom? Remember April-June, the epic with Ukraine. He is smart only inside the country, while abroad he is flexible. And he will get money from the Russians.
    2. aleks 62
      aleks 62 12 September 2014 14: 34
      -1
      ...... I think the contracts contain a ban on the re-export of gas and the price of gas is tied to this condition ..... In case of violation of the penalties and a different price .... Apparently that is why all these "re-exporters" somehow timidly try to establish re-export and look at the reaction of Moscow ...
      1. Frisbee
        Frisbee 12 September 2014 16: 15
        0
        To do this, you must carefully read the signed contract
    3. observer.ru
      observer.ru 12 September 2014 14: 58
      0
      I can’t understand, are we supplying Poland too much? or are they selling theirs? In my opinion, the contract for such and such a year should specify the supply volumes. So where are the surpluses for the reverse from? Enlighten someone
  10. Winged 38
    Winged 38 12 September 2014 13: 58
    +3
    Poland apparently did not understand the hint.
    It will probably only come when the supply of our gas to Poland will be carried out ONLY through a point in Germanowice. In the remaining pipes, the pressure drops sharply, to 0.
  11. Hyperboreec
    Hyperboreec 12 September 2014 14: 02
    +1
    It is necessary to transfer gas to Europe through the northern stream, and close the gate valve at the entrance to Ukraine, otherwise they already breathed gas there along the way, it blows down the towers.
  12. sever.56
    sever.56 12 September 2014 14: 03
    -1
    Dill, even to the detriment of itself, will buy gas more expensive from anyone, just to bite Russia. Well, let them put their teeth on the shelf faster.
    1. podpolkovnik
      podpolkovnik 12 September 2014 15: 21
      +5
      Quote: sever.56
      Dill, even to the detriment of itself, will buy gas more expensive from anyone, just to bite Russia. Well, let them put their teeth on the shelf faster.
    2. pahom54
      pahom54 12 September 2014 15: 44
      +1
      for sever 56

      "Where is the money, Zin ??? !!!" ...
    3. pahom54
      pahom54 12 September 2014 15: 45
      0
      for sever56

      "... Dill, even to the detriment of itself, will buy gas at a higher price from anyone, just to bite Russia ..."

      Where is the money, Zin?
      1. sever.56
        sever.56 12 September 2014 16: 21
        0
        Probably, they are paying with the money given by the IMF and Europe. I don’t think that Poles are such altruists, or they love dill very much to give them gas for free.
  13. zen-do.ru
    zen-do.ru 12 September 2014 14: 04
    +1
    Russia may declare a moratorium on gas supplies to Ukraine - before payment ending the humanitarian catastrophe by withdrawing punitive forces from SNR. Then any reverse can be considered illegal. BUT it will hit in relation to Russia, our esteemed partners will yell: they say, "whatever the politicians in Kiev, but you freeze the inhabitants." And then what to do?
  14. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 12 September 2014 14: 05
    +2
    And the Poles are dogs, and the Ukrainians are louts ...
    ... and they eat "SALO" RUSSIAN ...
    1. podpolkovnik
      podpolkovnik 12 September 2014 16: 19
      +4
      Quote: ia-ai00
      And the Poles are dogs, and the Ukrainians are louts ...
      ... and they eat "SALO" RUSSIAN ...

      Found on the net.
      Today I polled the Poles at breakfast at the hotel
      They are sitting at the next table, they are whipping in their own way, well, I realized that about the Russians, they are discussing Russia, that something is not very good.
      I passed and looked at them, I think to do something dirty in the morning. looking at a fruit basket. I took an apple, sort of "Slavyanka" or "Glory to the Winner".
      Walking past them with an apple he said:
      - Look, ours are Krasnodar! am
      they already turned green with anger laughing
  15. provincial
    provincial 12 September 2014 14: 08
    +3
    I wonder how long the gas contract with Europe was signed? Does it mean that we sell gas cheaply to Poland and Slovakia if they can reverse to other countries.?
    1. fif21
      fif21 12 September 2014 14: 19
      +6
      Quote: provincial
      Does it mean that we sell gas cheaply to Poland and Slovakia if they can reverse to other countries.?
      Reverse - violation of the terms of the contract and Russia has the right to stop gas supplies to Poland and Slovakia. If Miller chews snot, they will continue to make fun of Russia am
      1. mark_rod
        mark_rod 12 September 2014 14: 52
        +2
        Correctly! We need to figure out who Miller works for! am
        1. military
          military 12 September 2014 15: 25
          +2
          Quote: mark_rod
          Correctly! We need to figure out who Miller works for!

          but do not overestimate it on the subject of independence ... its level is a zits-chairman ... and it opens its mouth when it is allowed, and voices only what is entrusted to it ...
  16. wrm
    wrm 12 September 2014 14: 09
    +1
    My opinion is that the United States achieves one of its goals - raising gas prices to the level of profitability from sales of shale gas in the United States. Soon the heating season, the time of intense gas burning. The situation in Ukraine may make gas supplies unstable. Plus, reverse gas supplies, for which Ukraine can and does pay, but this means that the consumer in Europe will not receive it. To get it, you need new contracts. Against the background of rumors about readiness to sell Ukraine’s gas transportation system, it’s not difficult to guess who will own the assets and how this will affect gas transit prices. Moreover, no one hides that the gas transport system of Ukraine is worn out, and funds are needed to restore it. Although I’m not sure that everything is so bad with the Ukrainian GTS, it is possible that they want to bring down the price with such statements and sell or even give the GTS to the United States, and they, in turn, will be able to pick up transit prices, referring to the restoration of the worn out GTS. At the same time, the infrastructure of Europe does not allow the necessary volumes of liquefied gas to be received, so gas supplies from the United States will not stop gas price increases, but only slow down. We need the construction of hydraulic structures to supply the necessary volumes. I have no doubt that the United States will be ready to help in the construction on favorable terms for themselves. This process is not fast, but there is nowhere to hurry.
    1. jjj
      jjj 12 September 2014 14: 24
      +1
      Quote: wrm
      My opinion is that the United States achieves one of its goals - raising gas prices to a level of profitability from sales of shale gas

      Yes, I heard that this is the declared goal of the United States. But, there is one curious moment. First you need to establish a supply infrastructure. So far, all of the gas from the United States has been bought by countries in Southeast Asia. For 700 dollars. Moreover, deliveries are contracted ahead and carried out by self. And Europe is spoiled by Russian gas for 400 dollars.
      Well, let's say a political decision has been made, and it has become profitable for states to supply gas to Europe via 500. Deliveries went and reached volumes that would allow the displacement of Russian gas. But at the same time, supplies to the countries of Southeast Asia are stopped. A hungry market forms there, and for the long term, a growing market. Our gas, say dollars on 500 there will be snapped up. It is enough to build liquefaction terminals. Asia will take it out by itself. In addition, for such a price, we buy the loyalty of Asian countries and can get markets there for weapons and supplying us with necessary goods, bypassing Western sanctions. With all this, China is in chocolate, which has benefited from gas supplies at 400 dollars.
      Well, then weary and impoverished Europe, we can always offer our gas on the same terms in exchange for loyalty
      1. wrm
        wrm 12 September 2014 15: 23
        -1
        Quote: jjj

        First you need to establish a supply infrastructure.

        And no one is going to cut off Europe from Russian gas immediately. But there are terminals, only a few of them. And Europe will be forced to build more.
        Quote: jjj
        But at the same time, supplies to the countries of Southeast Asia are stopped. A hungry market forms there, and for the long term, a growing market. Our gas, let's say 500 dollars there will be snapped up.

        Obama said in the spring that God rewarded America with shale gas (something like that). This tells me that there is gas and it will be enough for Europe as well.
        Quote: jjj
        It is enough to build liquefaction terminals. Asia will take it out by itself.
        investments are needed to build the terminals, and sectoral sanctions, as we see, will not allow them to be attracted. Maybe from Southeast Asia? Will the US allow it?
        Quote: jjj
        With all this, China is in chocolate, which received the benefits of gas supplies at $ 400.
        If I understood correctly, the price of gas for China is in some way tied to the market price.
    2. military
      military 12 September 2014 15: 32
      +2
      Quote: wrm
      ... I’m not sure that everything is so bad with the Ukrainian GTS, perhaps with such statements they want to bring down the price and sell or even give the GTS to the United States for cheap ones, and they, in turn, will be able to pick up transit prices referring to the restoration of the worn-out GTS.

      exactly until their European "allies" themselves rush to Russia with entreaties to intensify work on the South Stream ... after which Russia will ask you a sacramental question: "- Do you see the kennel? ... Congratulations, now she - yours! " laughing
  17. kergudu straight
    kergudu straight 12 September 2014 14: 11
    +2
    Enrages, the policy is gas prom, sanctions are imposed against him, and he continues to supply gas to this geyvrop, they spit on contracts from a high bell tower, and ours continue to comply, for me it’s so stupid to cut off oxygen to them, on gas and titanium, and that’s all
  18. combat66
    combat66 12 September 2014 14: 12
    +3
    I just don’t understand, everyone just blew the roof. Where are the measures from which Europe will begin to whine? What are we waiting for when European sanctions really take effect? You need to squeeze them now! We survived the famine, we will survive and abundance. wink
  19. TECHNOLOGY
    TECHNOLOGY 12 September 2014 14: 12
    +6
    As I said, no brains!
  20. TU160
    TU160 12 September 2014 14: 12
    +1
    I suggest that countries that agree to build the South Stream, Russia should make gas tariffs lower, but that they should increase it ... And anyway, if they don’t need gas, for God's sake. China will eat everything.
    1. fif21
      fif21 12 September 2014 14: 26
      0
      Quote: TU160
      I suggest that countries that agree to build the South Stream, Russia should make gas tariffs lower, but which are against increasing
      Gas through dill must be stopped supplying, then Europe itself will complete the southern stream. Force Majeure on the face
      1. In Ukraine, civil war
      2. ukropiya steals gas
      3. ukropiya did not pay debts for gas
      and so on and so forth, what else does Gazprom need?
  21. max702
    max702 12 September 2014 14: 15
    +7
    I read the comments and was surprised no one sees such a reason that our "elite" stupidly needs loot and by turning off the gas they will shake it, and this is NOT PERMISSIBLE! So, as we supplied gas and oil to Gay Europe, we will continue to do so if they pay at least a little. Gas shut-off is possible only in the event of a large-scale conflict Russia-ruin + Europe, in all other cases gas will flow constantly.
    1. fif21
      fif21 12 September 2014 14: 30
      +3
      Quote: max702
      need loot and shut off the gas they shake it
      Yes, they’ll lose it now, but then they will replenish it and they will get even more bobs. Alternatives to Russian gas from Europe no
      monopolists however.
    2. Frisbee
      Frisbee 12 September 2014 16: 19
      0
      The truthful answer. Plus
  22. cap54
    cap54 12 September 2014 14: 15
    +1
    For reverse deliveries of Russian gas from Poland to Ukraine, introduce sanctions (what a popular word) for Poland - completely cut off gas supplies! After all, it was planned to act with these countries for such speculation in this way !!!
  23. cup
    cup 12 September 2014 14: 16
    0
    in a word -! They should also apply gas sanctions. began to live beautifully at the expense of others!
  24. v245721
    v245721 12 September 2014 14: 16
    +1
    it is not clear one thing that these Judas psheshik want to show Russia. Gazprom should begin to pursue a tough policy up to the rise in gas prices for the countries of "friends" of Hohland. otherwise, all the wealth of Russia can be squandered. "FRIENDS" ARE A LOT AND RUSSIA IS ONE,
    1. kergudu straight
      kergudu straight 12 September 2014 14: 22
      +2
      Quote: v245721
      it is not clear one thing that these Judas psheshik want to show Russia. Gazprom should begin to pursue a tough policy up to the rise in gas prices for the countries of "friends" of Hohland. otherwise, all the wealth of Russia can be squandered. "FRIENDS" ARE A LOT AND RUSSIA IS ONE,

      I completely agree with you, we must give them a sanction, even if they carry shale from the states that they had a problem with the environment there, nothing to use our gas for free
  25. sazhka4
    sazhka4 12 September 2014 14: 19
    +2
    Not even interesting anymore. "Gazprom", "Power of Russia", empty words .. Fart without looking back at someone can not. there is nothing to do or say .. Either "brothers", then "partners", then "eggs" interfere. They put on us, and we keep making excuses, smiling and mumbling some nonsense.
  26. slavbag
    slavbag 12 September 2014 14: 20
    +10
    I want to ask you all the Russians one question. Only you do not be offended. Sanctions are their goods, they don’t want to sell it to Russia, you say that it’s good for you, good for the country, good for the people. Well, everything is just chocolate. SO WHAT ARE YOU ALL JOINING ?????? Why are you so excitedly furiously at all. What for???? Set aside the USA and Europe alone. Well, they do not want you, and to hell with them. Do not write, do not discuss, do not reheat.
    Our example - the United Nations and partners in the war crimes offense, begin an international court in Gaga. So our government simply refused to cooperate and generally discuss and respond to these provocations.
    So what is your reaction ?????????
    1. kergudu straight
      kergudu straight 12 September 2014 14: 31
      +4
      Quote: slavbag
      I want to ask you all the Russians one question. Only you do not be offended. Sanctions are their goods, they don’t want to sell it to Russia, you say that it’s good for you, good for the country, good for the people. Well, everything is just chocolate. SO WHAT ARE YOU ALL JOINING ?????? Why are you so excitedly furiously at all. What for???? Set aside the USA and Europe alone. Well, they do not want you, and to hell with them. Do not write, do not discuss, do not reheat.
      Our example - the United Nations and partners in the war crimes offense, begin an international court in Gaga. So our government simply refused to cooperate and generally discuss and respond to these provocations.
      So what is your reaction ?????????

      And how would you react if Jews were exterminated for the place of the Russians on the ruins? Would you have been killed and left alone too? Has something happened to your memory, the Nazis have bred in Ukraine, and you propose to close your eyes to this? Odessa did not remind you of Dachau, Auschwitz? I still hope that your country will take the side of Russia
      1. slavbag
        slavbag 12 September 2014 16: 43
        +2
        So you read and didn’t catch anything. You can do what you want where you want to protect your interests (as long as this does not swing us). I'm talking about the sanctions of Europe and the United States against Russia. This is their money, their company from a product of their technology. They owe you nothing. Just like you to them. Well, again I ask that you all are so jerking because of sanctions. Everyone here on the site sincerely assures that this is all good for Russia and the Russians. So rejoice, support the sanctions. Stop worrying about these Europeans and Americans. What do you worry all the time how soon they will soon be krants. Well, they will be so. Agree with me and you will immediately feel better.
        1. kergudu straight
          kergudu straight 12 September 2014 17: 45
          0
          Quote: slavbag
          So you read and didn’t catch anything. You can do what you want where you want to protect your interests (as long as this does not swing us). I'm talking about the sanctions of Europe and the United States against Russia. This is their money, their company from a product of their technology. They owe you nothing. Just like you to them. Well, again I ask that you all are so jerking because of sanctions. Everyone here on the site sincerely assures that this is all good for Russia and the Russians. So rejoice, support the sanctions. Stop worrying about these Europeans and Americans. What do you worry all the time how soon they will soon be krants. Well, they will be so. Agree with me and you will immediately feel better.

          That's just how I correctly understood your idea, do not give a damn about sanctions, and because of what are these sanctions imposed? Yes, because Russia does not allow the brown plague to raise its head, and you simply do not want to see this, and also from the country of Anti-fascists. Just sorry for your opinions
          1. slavbag
            slavbag 12 September 2014 21: 00
            -1
            Yes, we only have time to distribute tomaki to Arabs here. We can’t reach Ukraine.
            1. kergudu straight
              kergudu straight 12 September 2014 23: 09
              0
              Quote: slavbag
              Yes, we only have time to distribute tomaki to Arabs here. We can’t reach Ukraine.

              Yes, and you are sad, it doesn’t hurt when resort towns fire rockets, constantly wait, where once again something or someone will explode
    2. nomad
      nomad 12 September 2014 14: 38
      0
      The Serbs also held out for a long time. Until the mattress covers of their "Cossack" were sent, and Milosevic was leaked to Gage. So they, like Ukrainians now, wanted to join the European Union. As if the same thing happened to you. Show off and go like on a leash. angry
    3. Starmos
      Starmos 12 September 2014 14: 45
      +3
      Gather up impudence - I will answer, for all Russians. Slava, To you there, on the promised land, what matters to us? Are we having problems for you? So don’t worry, everything will be fine. We will deal with our gas faster than you and the Gaza Strip. And on the Hague tribunal - we put the device.
      1. slavbag
        slavbag 12 September 2014 16: 50
        0
        And here it is not necessary. Just on our favorite site, there are a lot of people here and often we, as the state of Israel, are taught to live and how to behave properly with terrorists, how we have to put up with murderers who are doing everything KILLING JEWS FOR THAT THEY ARE JEWS. Read what Vatnik writes. If someone on our flag writes about you like that, this will be a declaration of war.
    4. TECHNOLOGY
      TECHNOLOGY 12 September 2014 14: 49
      0
      Glory! hi If we start to "react", the whole ball will have to shit. Except for our allies, of course.
      1. slavbag
        slavbag 12 September 2014 16: 51
        0
        C'mon, everything is much more complicated. List your allies in the studio.
      2. VAF
        VAF 12 September 2014 19: 24
        +1
        Quote: TECHNAR
        If we start to "react"


        That's the whole problem .. "if", but for now .... request hit the left .. substitute the right? request
    5. oblako
      oblako 12 September 2014 16: 04
      +3
      So what to be offended at? I will not say for all the Russians, only for myself. First of all, it is of course emotions and they require an outlet. After all, they react not to the absence of some kind of product, but to the question: "You are no one without us, and you cannot call you, and you are weak and you are outcasts ..." And who puts the question like that ..? Here I would go to the individual, but I will resist ... There was a time when we were led to Western values ​​as natives on beads, to the promises of peace and not NATO expansion, to the possibility of ensuring peace through the interpenetration of economic entities of all countries, etc., etc. Then they discovered with surprise that they mainly penetrate into us and that there are advantages, but again not with us, but that our interest would be taken into account, it was as if they were not fixed on paper ... and this is not about that now. Wait, gentlemen, in a decent society it is customary to answer for the market. And society turned out to be not decent ... And they eavesdrop, and read other people's letters, and someone else's gold shit, and they hammer a bolt on obligations and debts, and manipulate others with the help of compromising evidence and blackmail. I’m not saying that it’s in the order of things to bomb the state for no reason and kill its leader. Leave it all alone ?? !! slavbad, no offense, even a decent Jew would not have passed by this ... And sanctions, of course, for someone trouble and difficulties. But difficulties unite. There is also a very positive point in this. We will never take our Western partners at their word ... Only prepayment ...)) You have to pay for lessons. And of course, it's better to eat potatoes from your own garden than to depend on an unreliable supplier ... This is the only thing that can bring Russians to their knees and upside down - harvesting potatoes in their garden ... soldier
      1. slavbag
        slavbag 12 September 2014 17: 33
        +2
        Everything is absolutely correct. But here is the interesting thing. I carefully watched your news today and I really did not like the expression on the faces of your politicians who shout in response to the sanction that they are all nonsense, but for some reason their faces are very sad.
        1. kergudu straight
          kergudu straight 12 September 2014 17: 53
          0
          Quote: slavbag
          Everything is absolutely correct. But here is the interesting thing. I carefully watched your news today and I really did not like the expression on the faces of your politicians who shout in response to the sanction that they are all nonsense, but for some reason their faces are very sad.

          I agree with you, I just paraphrase Professor Preobrazhensky "Not when you look at this zombie box, it is bad for your health" Alas, our media began to be not too truthful and overly politicized
        2. diz1975
          diz1975 12 September 2014 18: 12
          0
          Our government does not scream in response to sanctions. I also watched the news and carefully. It will respond to the sanctions imposed. Not by voice but by retaliatory sanctions.
          1. slavbag
            slavbag 12 September 2014 20: 38
            0
            SCREAMS as she screams. Turn on the news. And now the news about the main thing. Chief as before. And now the news. 90 percent of the time about Ukraine and about sanctions and how we do not care. If you do not care what is it generally procrastinate ????? And if you do not care? And five minutes about the rest of the HUGE country. And this is news about Russia. So hack or not? And by the way according to FIG, the foot is also very painful. Then do not swell, it hurts and prevents walking. The whole government is lining up at the microphones to tell you how you do not care for their sanctions, otherwise you still won’t know that you don’t care !!!
  27. nomad
    nomad 12 September 2014 14: 22
    0
    It just dawned on the Poles that the Ukrainians were stealing their gas, well, they pretended that it was planned for them. This is what they in the west call reverse. Interesting western languages! With us - it is called theft, and THEM - REVERSE ,,, laughing
  28. provincial
    provincial 12 September 2014 14: 25
    0
    It feels like our oligarchs are holding Putna’s throat, so he can’t do nothing. Everything is susolit and mumbles.
    1. diz1975
      diz1975 12 September 2014 18: 15
      0
      Not a true feeling. It somehow doesn’t seem like someone holding Putin by the throat. Rather, the opposite.
      1. slavbag
        slavbag 12 September 2014 20: 39
        +1
        Then why is SO MANY THIEF in power! **! *?! ???!?!
        1. serezhasoldatow
          serezhasoldatow 12 September 2014 22: 49
          0
          Legacy from Humpback and EB
  29. Imperial
    Imperial 12 September 2014 14: 25
    +3
    Finish the game .Gas conflict between Russia and the EU will have a dramatic negative impact on the European economy, the Norwegian expert said.
    "Oil of Russia", 12.09.14, Moscow, 13:47 The gas conflict between Russia and the European Union, about the possibility of which is increasingly being written by the European media in recent days, will have a dramatically negative impact on the economy of all of Europe, including Norway, which is not part of the EU. This was stated in an interview published today by the business publication Dagens Nairsleeve by Eystein Dörum, a senior economic expert at DNB Markets, the investment arm of Norwegian bank D'enbae. Get it.Economic interaction with China may replace Russia’s cooperation with the EU, WEF expert believes

    “Oil of Russia”, 12.09.14/13/35, Moscow, XNUMX:XNUMX Cooperation with China may replace Russia’s economic interaction with the European Union, violated due to sanctions. About this correspondent. The director and senior economist of the Center for Global Competitiveness of the World Economic Forum / WEF / Margareta Drzhenek-Hanuz announced today ITAR-TASS.

    From where the legs grow Texas authorities accuse Gazprom of campaign against shale gas in the US
    Russian Oil, 12.09.14/13/53, Moscow, XNUMX:XNUMX The head of the Texas state oil and gas regulator, David Porter, asked US Secretary of State John Kerry to take action against Gazprom, which, according to the official, is conducting covert subversive activities against the US natural gas industry. http://www.oilru.com/
    1. Imperial
      Imperial 12 September 2014 15: 16
      +2
      Shary about the rabbit and the reverse.
  30. mackonya
    mackonya 12 September 2014 14: 26
    0
    I wonder at what price Naftogaz buys natural gas from Poland, is it really for $ 265 = 1000 cubic meters?
  31. m.makovej
    m.makovej 12 September 2014 14: 30
    +10
    I don’t understand, the media are holding Russians for fools, or what? Reverse gas, reverse gas ... These are Russian resources and the point. If there is any bonded contract, this is one thing. And if not, turn off the pipe and the bast. Poland, Slovakia and other chantrap ... let them solve their own problems. We’ll tolerate. Only power is respected in the world. I myself am an ethnic Ukrainian, I know these couples. They understand only drian and thicker.
    1. military
      military 12 September 2014 15: 42
      +6
      Quote: m.makovej
      I don’t understand, the media are holding Russians for fools, or what? Reverse gas, reverse gas ... These are Russian resources and the point. If there is any bonded contract, this is one thing. And if not, turn off the pipe and the bast. Poland, Slovakia and other chantrap ... let them solve their own problems. We’ll tolerate. Only power is respected in the world. I myself am an ethnic Ukrainian, I know these couples. They understand only drian and thicker.

      the difference is that you are Ukrainian, and those you are talking about are stubborn Svidomo crests ... and this is like heaven and earth ... and by the way ... my respect to you for an adequate life position! .. . good drinks hi
  32. Major Yurik
    Major Yurik 12 September 2014 14: 37
    +1
    And why would the wish-fulfillment company Gazprom not transfer the countries that are reversing gas to dill, for prepayment. Then the reverse will be very expensive for tricky zheks and other obamkina ass licks. am
    1. Prager
      Prager 12 September 2014 15: 12
      +3
      I completely agree with you, Major! in any case, dill will still find a way to steal our gas, because it’s not for nothing that they say that a crest (dill) was born, a Jew cried.
      1. serezhasoldatow
        serezhasoldatow 12 September 2014 22: 51
        0
        And now Ukrainians are crying
  33. diz1975
    diz1975 12 September 2014 14: 37
    0
    Quote: slavbag
    I want to ask you all the Russians one question. Only you do not be offended. Sanctions are their goods, they don’t want to sell it to Russia, you say that it’s good for you, good for the country, good for the people. Well, everything is just chocolate. SO WHAT ARE YOU ALL JOINING ?????? Why are you so excitedly furiously at all. What for???? Set aside the USA and Europe alone. Well, they do not want you, and to hell with them. Do not write, do not discuss, do not reheat.
    Our example - the United Nations and partners in the war crimes offense, begin an international court in Gaga. So our government simply refused to cooperate and generally discuss and respond to these provocations.
    So what is your reaction ?????????

    Sanctions are offensive in themselves as a fact. How can you not react to an abusive, cynical and deceitful attitude. For example, excuse me, they’ll spit in your face and then they will ask: So what do you react like that ????
    1. slavbag
      slavbag 12 September 2014 17: 45
      +1
      To be honest, we do not respond to words. But on the action then let us be very tough.
      1. diz1975
        diz1975 12 September 2014 18: 06
        0
        What do you mean by not responding to words? I mean do not react to rude expressions? Well, it's in vain. It is necessary that the dialogue be cultural. Polite. And about actions - what do we mean? We reacted to the brutal actions by the Russians, are reacting and will continue to react by forcing peace and mutual respect.
  34. s30461
    s30461 12 September 2014 14: 44
    0
    Yes, in principle, we do not care who anyone: Ukrainians Poles or Ukrainians Poles ...
    Now you can’t make them out at all - Lyashki mixed in one mess ...
  35. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 12 September 2014 14: 50
    0
    So it can introduce sanctions against Poland and block oxygen for them, and let these two acrobatian brothers drink vodka together all winter.
  36. Shadowcat
    Shadowcat 12 September 2014 14: 50
    0
    Are you ready to bet what will win - Rationality of freezing to ... junta of Ukraine or grandmother?
  37. Bear13
    Bear13 12 September 2014 14: 56
    +5
    I think that since Ukropia made an advance payment to the Pshek for several months in advance, then we not only have the right, but must transfer Poland to prepayment. It’s necessary to act toughly, stop talking aloud, tired of it !!! And set the commercial price (including the profit of zheks from reverse ukram).
  38. special
    special 12 September 2014 14: 59
    +2
    If the door is closed in the heart, you need to knock on the liver ... fool
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  40. STALGRAD76
    STALGRAD76 12 September 2014 16: 52
    0
    Can someone explain how you can buy gas at 380 bucks in Poland which bought it in Russia at 480 bucks or link kint
  41. navara399
    navara399 12 September 2014 16: 56
    0
    Since the Poles got one knockdown (apples, etc.), they need to be knocked out (advance payment for gas). You look and Frau wiser, a separate pipe was laid to it and it doesn’t smell like a reverse. Well, something like that.
  42. tnk1969
    tnk1969 12 September 2014 17: 24
    +3
    All countries that carry out reverse deliveries of Russian gas should be transferred to full prepayment. And I am sure that those who want to carry out such deliveries will not immediately. And it can be done. After all, Gazprom owns stakes, and significant ones, in the gas transmission companies of Poland, Slovakia, Hungary and Austria. So only will is needed here. "Nothing personal just business"
  43. Mangust
    Mangust 12 September 2014 18: 06
    0
    Nothing, soon dill will be tested for frost resistance.
  44. alien50
    alien50 12 September 2014 18: 08
    +1
    That's what I do not understand in my 50 .....
    Is this so? The Psheks drive our gas to the country 404. They buy from us, sell them. Is this called reverse?
    Or maybe it's just a resale of our energy resources?
    In common people-speculation? ....
    Then one more question!
    If they cash in on us, can they give them money for speculation in a slurp? And block the pipe for a month (in the form of sanctions)?
    As in the proverb: "On the cunning jo * y there is a x * p screw." And since we have a screw on the plug in the gas pipe, so tighten it!
  45. cergey51046
    cergey51046 12 September 2014 18: 14
    +1
    Poland, in connection with its hostile policies, needs to turn off gas, oil and everything else.
  46. northerner lech
    northerner lech 12 September 2014 18: 43
    +1
    Slavbag, it’s not sanction that provokes indignation. Putin correctly said that our worst friends were cheating on the doorstep of our house and want us to clean them up and pay for it. You see, they’ll see how we behave and then they decide whether or not to impose sanctions. A candelabrum for snot, that's all for a short time. And all the hunt for sanction will disappear.
  47. 66 Division IRA
    66 Division IRA 12 September 2014 19: 17
    0
    But what if my roots are Polish and I grew up in Russia?
    I wish Poland all the best, not to the detriment of Russia.
    (And pokh .... to me on your minuses!)
    1. UzRus
      UzRus 12 September 2014 20: 52
      0
      Hallelujah, brother! Plus to you! Let all be well and let everyone be friends!
  48. bubla5
    bubla5 12 September 2014 21: 08
    0
    Speaking about market relations, Poland bought this gas and has every right to resell it, but in the end it turns out that it gets it at a cheap price, so you need to increase or equalize the price of gas throughout the EU. But, as I already wrote,you need to dismantle the hydraulic transport system leading to Ukraine, turn it over for metal and forget about this pipe once and for all, and opponents of the South Stream will immediately disappear
  49. zlideny
    zlideny 12 September 2014 22: 28
    0
    and the closer to winter this GTS will be pulled it will be much calmer to everyone. but not warmer.
  50. Tima
    Tima 13 September 2014 08: 21
    0
    Reverse from Poland is gas from apples)))