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Mobile phone is not the place

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The Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation proposed to amend the military regulations of the guard service, prohibiting the sentry to use a personal mobile phone at the post. When serving, a soldier should not be distracted by calls, text messages, or games. He writes about it Rossiyskaya Gazeta.

Mobile phone is not the place


Although the initiator of the project is the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the amendments will apply to all Russian security officials, primarily the Armed Forces.

As it turned out, a soldier with a mobile phone at his post is not at all rare, but rather already routine. Immersed in correspondence or action-shooter, he no longer controls the situation.

“In connection with the proliferation of personal communications and their availability among military personnel, including those serving in the internal troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia, it became necessary to regulate their use in the performance of service and combat missions as part of the guard and sentry.”, - stated in the explanatory note to the project.

Personal communication can be not only phones, but also any kind of mobile computers, such as tablets.

Speech about completely banning mobile phones in the army is not. It is possible and necessary to communicate with parents and friends (friends). Yes, and dedovschiny phone helps to fight: when information about the morals of the barracks spreads over the network, wild things become less. Or you can call the military prosecutor.

At the same time, a soldier must clearly understand where the need ends and self-indulgence begins. Need a golden mean. In the meantime, as the newspaper writes, referring to the stories of the servicemen, “in many barracks there is a real struggle between conscript soldiers and commanders: commanders swear and select phones, and soldiers buy new vehicles and hide them in pockets and hiding places, continuing to live from SMS to text messages.
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  1. tomket
    tomket 11 September 2014 17: 35
    -89
    Often, a soldier at the post telephone is the only means of communication with the commander. so, first establish a connection, then prohibit.
    1. herruvim
      herruvim 11 September 2014 17: 38
      +97
      The fighter has a machine gun at his post! Shooting with a line of violators, a direct connection with the commander
      1. VICTOR-61
        VICTOR-61 11 September 2014 17: 42
        +36
        I agree this is a distraction if he distracts him at the post — for example, my wife set fry potatoes, the phone rang, she got into a conversation and as a result the potato burned under the coals — so there are a lot of such examples
        1. severniy
          severniy 11 September 2014 18: 04
          +9
          maybe I’m wrong, but the DEPS in my opinion had an order for a long time: there was special communications on duty .... but they apparently didn’t read it ... recourse
          1. Canep
            Canep 11 September 2014 18: 24
            +24
            And that in the guard you can have a phone?!?!?! The UGKS clearly spells out what the fighter can and should be on guard, the mobile phone is definitely not included there. You can’t smoke at the post only because the light of the cigarette is visible for a kilometer and accurately indicates to the sniper where the opponent’s head is, and here is the mobile phone with a luminous screen, the sniper will delight the mobile phone to illuminate the target without creating illumination of night optics.
            Although in everyday service, a mobile phone is very useful, and so is the commander. We need to find Private Pupkin - we call him on the pipe, if he answers, we immediately issue a "combat" order, and if he doesn't answer, he will answer at the evening check and go to the squad. And if Pupkin does not have a mobile phone, then everything is according to the regulations platoon - sergeant, sergeant - soldier and then we look for Pupkin in the old fashioned way.
            1. Canep
              Canep 11 September 2014 18: 59
              +14
              By the way, a competent scout with the help of mobile phones of guards and electronic equipment will be able to monitor all movements of soldiers, including finding out the location of posts, how many people are on duty, when there is a shift, how many people are divorced, when they bring lunch and what. Every cell phone is a beacon.
              1. theadenter
                theadenter 11 September 2014 19: 11
                +10
                2 watts of radiation from a mobile phone pierces more than a hundred meters of forest. This is a very serious radio beacon, moreover, it works at fixed frequencies, which are elementarily detected with the help of 2 receivers and simple calculations! And with the help of special equipment, the coordinates of the target can be built in a couple of seconds.
                And this loophole is primarily used by the enemy.
                1. Canep
                  Canep 11 September 2014 19: 38
                  +2
                  Quote: theadenter
                  2 watts of radiation from a mobile phone pierces more than a hundred meters of forest
                  A 10-watt transmitter is audible for 20 km. A 2-wadded cotton will probably be heard at a distance of 4-5 km, and it can be confidently heard with a clear analysis of the transmitted information, and not confidently (with interference, dropped packets, etc.) for 10 kilometers. The problem is in the receiving antenna - it needs to be placed on a hill. By the way, the cellular communication service station outside settlements is set along the roads with a step of up to 20 km and they are equipped with a narrowly directed antenna firing along the road.
                  1. Ezhaak
                    Ezhaak 11 September 2014 22: 25
                    +1
                    Quote: Canep
                    2 wadding will probably be heard at a distance of 4-5 km

                    The signal power of the local oscillator of the radio is negligible. But back in the mid-60s, this signal was determined at a distance of 400 km. Moreover, even that ancient equipment distinguished a civilian receiver from an army one. And here, in the cell phone, as much as 2 watts !!! :)
              2. sas78
                sas78 12 September 2014 03: 25
                0
                everything is true, only it is not enough for a scout to be literate in this case - you need to be well technically equipped with a special !!! equipment
        2. sgazeev
          sgazeev 11 September 2014 18: 23
          +10
          Quote: VICTOR-61
          I agree this is a distraction if he distracts him at the post — for example, my wife set fry potatoes, the phone rang, she got into a conversation and as a result the potato burned under the coals — so there are a lot of such examples

          Well, at least a potato, as well as a guard, would say goodbye to life, in the best case, in the worst, they would cut out personnel due to one mudamobil. fool
      2. severniy
        severniy 11 September 2014 18: 09
        +2
        Quote: herruvim
        The fighter has a machine gun at his post! Shooting with a line of violators, a direct connection with the commander


        and immediately ... wassat
        1. Rostov
          Rostov 11 September 2014 18: 15
          +5
          Well, what - the series continues

          Herman Van Rompuy confirmed that the new EU sanctions against Russia will enter into force on September 12, ITAR-TASS reports citing an official statement by the head of the European Council, published following the fourth meeting of ambassadors of the EU countries.

          Original article: http://russian.rt.com/article/49530#ixzz3D15LVR4i


          We are waiting for the answer. I wonder what we offer in return?
          1. Maks-80
            Maks-80 11 September 2014 18: 18
            +2
            As an option, a ban on the import of cars from the EU and the States.
            1. lis-ik
              lis-ik 11 September 2014 18: 27
              +3
              It was announced that it would be banned first of all. cars and this will primarily hit ordinary Russians, it is necessary to ban the new auto industry, which would hit Germany, and it becomes so funny and insulting from such answers.
              1. siberalt
                siberalt 11 September 2014 18: 58
                +1
                What is the sadness for used foreign cars? Belarus and Kazakhstan are not subject to these sanctions. We will buy through third parties.
            2. Russ69
              Russ69 11 September 2014 18: 30
              0
              Quote: Maks-80
              As an option, a ban on the import of cars from the EU and the States.

              It will not be enough ...
              Americans, they’re already preparing new sanctions ...
          2. Canep
            Canep 11 September 2014 19: 13
            0
            Quote: Rostov
            I wonder what we offer in return?

            Restriction of import of cars from Europe, including second-hand ones, and restriction of import by light industry goods and clothing.

            http://russian.rt.com/article/49527
          3. HAM
            HAM 11 September 2014 19: 43
            +1
            Pisyun Van Rompuy will not calm down!
      3. vorobey
        vorobey 11 September 2014 18: 22
        +14
        Quote: herruvim
        The fighter has a machine gun at his post! Shooting with a line of violators, a direct connection with the commander


        five points ... and also in the article of the UGiKS there is an article that is forbidden by the sentry .. have a drink smoke straighten the natural need to sit down to sleep talk, etc. etc. as well as ANOTHER WAY to distract from carrying out the service.
        I did not confuse anything?

        Everything is already there and is spelled out in blood .. The Ministry of Internal Affairs itself just doesn’t know the laws .. Being an officer of the Ministry of Internal Affairs (there was such a sin in my life I repent) built colonels who my guards checked and took away the weapon from the "sentry" during the check they were happy like mine flying as a nachkara .. to which I had to reasonably answer that this was not my flight but an inspector who did not know UGiKS ..
      4. I am
        I am 11 September 2014 20: 29
        +1
        Phone - will definitely indicate who does not need where the fighter is, even if he is not visible. This is like a marker on the radar. Go and take the fighter warm.
      5. yushch
        yushch 11 September 2014 21: 36
        +1
        Quote: herruvim
        The fighter has a machine gun at his post! Shooting with a line of violators, a direct connection with the commander


        Not at first the command is given - "Stop, who is coming?", Then "Stop, I will shoot!", Then a warning shot into the air and only then fire to kill. =)
        In general, the charter clearly says, "The sentry SHOULD serve steadily, not being distracted by anything."
        What other amendments are needed? You just need to strictly monitor the implementation of the requirements of the charters.
    2. zart_arn
      zart_arn 11 September 2014 17: 39
      +29
      What kind of post is this where a personal mobile is the only means of communication? belay
      In general, if you can’t drive, then even more so at the post.
      1. zloybond
        zloybond 11 September 2014 18: 09
        +14
        in general, there is a charter that is quite applicable to any post, written in blood, checked by time: 209. The sentry is prohibited:

        - sleep, sit, lean against something, write, read, sing, talk, eat, drink, smoke, send natural needs or otherwise be distracted from fulfilling your duties, accept from anyone and pass on to anyone there were any objects, to cause the operation of technical means of protection by their actions, to send a cartridge into the chamber without the need.
        The sentry should answer questions only of the head of the guard, the assistant to the chief of the guard, his guard and those who arrived for check.

        and so on ...
        1. prio124
          prio124 11 September 2014 18: 18
          +2
          Here, thank you. I just wanted to quote the charter itself. And then, as if in an absurdity: - It's me Ahueli, from Armenia.
          1. Alekseir162
            Alekseir162 11 September 2014 18: 32
            +4
            Yeah, like: "Dima, wave your mom with a pen." Remember, there was such a commercial.
        2. vorobey
          vorobey 11 September 2014 18: 24
          +1
          Quote: zloybond
          in general, there is a charter that is quite applicable to any post, written in blood, checked by time: 209. The sentry is prohibited:


          did not reach your post .. repeated ..
      2. Combitor
        Combitor 12 September 2014 10: 01
        0
        Quote: zart_arn
        In general, if you can’t drive, then even more so at the post.

        And not only at the post. In general, soldiers have mobile phones, I think - a topic of special conversation. Many soldiers, and even officers, also take pictures of everything that is possible and impossible on a cell phone in the location of their unit. And then they post photos on social networks to collect "likes". Or a video on YouTube.
        Therefore, the presence of mobile phones for soldiers is a sore point that needs to be addressed. And the "cell phone" at the sentry and on guard in general is, I think, a military crime. Here, even in the guard regulations, nothing needs to be changed. The current charter has long said everything once and for all.
    3. Good cat
      Good cat 11 September 2014 17: 41
      +20
      The fighter on the post has a connection with the commander, a warning in the air, and no more communication is needed!
      1. tomket
        tomket 11 September 2014 17: 54
        +1
        Quote: Good cat
        at the post, communication with the commander is a warning in the air,

        Yeah, into the air, and then the brigade commander came with a check.
        1. nerd.su
          nerd.su 11 September 2014 18: 09
          +19
          If the brigade incognito checks the vigilance of the guard service, then the sentry brigade is assigned extraordinary hours for the shot brigade commander laughing
        2. prio124
          prio124 11 September 2014 18: 19
          +1
          wink Well, why so harsh. Enough breeding.
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 11 September 2014 18: 28
            +6
            Quote: prio124
            wink Well, why so harsh. Enough breeding.


            Quote: sanya.vorodis
            The Charter of the Guard Service - any inspector must be accompanied by a starter or star sign - if not - the Kingdom of Heaven is to that brigade commander!


            no guys, if the test involves interviewing the sentry, then it’s imperative that he take a waking shift with him, so that during the interview he takes over the post under temporary supervision, so that the watch can talk and answer questions .. that is. at the time of the check, the sentry and guard change places ...
        3. sgazeev
          sgazeev 11 September 2014 18: 27
          +1
          Quote: tomket
          Quote: Good cat
          at the post, communication with the commander is a warning in the air,

          Yeah, into the air, and then the brigade commander came with a check.

          "Stop, who is coming?", There is no answer or password, one in the air, and there, as the brigade commander decides, answer or lie in the mud. The general came to the unit to carry out a check. Angry as a dog, he said that he would check the guard himself. Here comes the general, looks - the sentry is standing. And the sentry got scared: he saw the general for the first time. The general approaches and asks:
          - Do you know the carabiner number?
          The soldier calls without hesitation. General:
          - Well, give me a carbine - I’ll check it.
          The soldier gives the carabiner with a fright. General:
          - Oh, you bastard, so it means you are serving !!! Well, I'll teach you a charter now !!!
          The general jerks the bolt, induces a carbine on the soldier.
          “You see,” he says, “a cow’s cake, eat it, you bastard, otherwise I’ll shoot you like a dog because you don’t know the charter !!!”
          The soldier takes the cake and, choking, begins to eat. Ate half, the general took pity.
          “Enough,” he says, “hold the carbine, son, carry out the service as it should.”
          The soldier took a carbine, pointed at the general.
          - Well, eat what is left, otherwise I’ll shoot !!!
          The general, choking, ate the tortilla ... The next day, part of the drill. There is a general along the line, collars and belts checks. He stopped near the soldier and said:
          - Private, we have not seen each other before? It seems your face is familiar to me ...
          - But what about, comrade general, yes we are together yesterday laughing
    4. Oleg NSK
      Oleg NSK 11 September 2014 17: 42
      +6
      What kind of fighter is this ... if at the post in the tanks appear? ... and if this is the only connection (which is extremely rare) ... and let yourself be in your pocket ... but for misuse (for example, at the post), as well as not in your free time ... outfit queues ... so in the charter and register ... business then
      1. severniy
        severniy 11 September 2014 18: 12
        +1
        Quote: Oleg NSK
        What kind of fighter is this ... if at the post in the tanks appear? ... and if this is the only connection (which is extremely rare) ... and let yourself be in your pocket ... but for misuse (for example, at the post), as well as not in your free time ... outfit queues ... so in the charter and register ... business then


        and what at once to the tanchiki, we can want to call someone who’s in love on the phone ... until one so to speak ... smile
        1. prio124
          prio124 11 September 2014 18: 20
          0
          Well damn Hochmists. Or maybe he is serious?
    5. BOB044
      BOB044 11 September 2014 17: 44
      +12
      Then bring it to the post and bed, and from the other side hang a hammock so that it is not boring.
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 11 September 2014 17: 47
        +15
        Judging by the experience of the militias and not only on the included mobile, it is very convenient to calculate the coordinates for artillery ...
        1. Vasek
          Vasek 11 September 2014 17: 52
          +6
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Judging by the experience of the militias and not only on the included mobile, it is very convenient to calculate the coordinates for artillery ...

          good
          Right! And here is the first-hand confirmation:
          The blame for the failures of the Ukrainian military in the area of ​​the military operation in eastern Ukraine lies with smartphones and tablets, with which the National Guard guards could go online. This was stated by Minister of Defense of Ukraine Valery Geletey.
          RIA News

          Here it’s still appropriate to recall the dancer and possible interference with him laughing
        2. prio124
          prio124 11 September 2014 18: 22
          0
          I don’t know. We had jammers.
        3. sgazeev
          sgazeev 11 September 2014 18: 48
          0
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Judging by the experience of the militias and not only on the included mobile, it is very convenient to calculate the coordinates for artillery ...

          This is a different situation. Khokhlops have no charter, they sold everything. laughing
        4. sas78
          sas78 12 September 2014 03: 29
          0
          absolutely true, you only need to know whose mobile it is then. as they say, a matter of technology
      2. sgazeev
        sgazeev 11 September 2014 18: 45
        +1
        Quote: BOB044
        Then bring it to the post and bed, and from the other side hang a hammock so that it is not boring.

        One year of service, an afternoon nap, no cleaning of the territory, Uncle Vasya will help, there is no outfit for the kitchen, Aunt Manya will help there. I ooh ..... uh, we are in the first year of service, we prayed to God to get into the outfit in the kitchen, I wanted to eat They always carried bread or crackers in their pockets, so that the foreman wouldn’t catch trying to eat in one sitting. Afternoon nap only for those entering the outfit. bully
    6. jaguar
      jaguar 11 September 2014 17: 46
      +17
      During my service, when a major without a breeder and a filmmaker checked the posts, one of my lines was enough for full communication ..... after 2 minutes, the entire guard with the filmmaker and after 3 minutes. and the duty on the brigade with the responsible were at my post !!!!!
      1. arane
        arane 11 September 2014 18: 20
        +3
        at the same time this major was supposed to lie face in a puddle!
        By the way, checking posts without a starter or a guide is strictly prohibited!
        1. DV69
          DV69 11 September 2014 19: 49
          +1
          Quote: arane
          at the same time this major was supposed to lie face in a puddle!
          By the way, checking posts without a starter or a guide is strictly prohibited!


          All right. Good evening Glory.
        2. jaguar
          jaguar 11 September 2014 20: 11
          0
          Now more than 20 years have passed since that moment ..... I repent the turn was not in the air but under my feet lol ... and the major was in a puddle and lay
      2. vorobey
        vorobey 11 September 2014 18: 44
        +4
        Quote: jaguar
        During my service, when a major without a breeder and a filmmaker checked the posts, one of my lines was enough for full communication ..... after 2 minutes, the entire guard with the filmmaker and after 3 minutes. and the duty on the brigade with the responsible were at my post !!!!!


        In Chirchik, a platoon of 4 platoons was stationed in Lt. Lomov (Lom). after afghan the guy drenched such pretzels ... our platoon entered the guard with him. Our Radik was on sick leave. The large guard is two sectors of 9 posts, I am the second guard (this is a hanger who has studied at TVTKU and knows the repair factory and the fuel and lubricants warehouse and the equipment cemetery). and so Lomov went for a walk, took the guard and forth .. The 8th post is a fuel depot near the chemist village, and there he meets three mamzels along the way .. word for word hee hee ha ha and you want to argue such a girl through two minutes a crowd of men will come running here .. oh yes .. Well, the crowbar called us from the makar twice ... after three minutes, after 2 minutes, we were in the eighth post, sober and soaked from body armor and helmets .. and the crowbar sits calmly and says well girls .. but you did not believe.
    7. Militia
      Militia 11 September 2014 17: 54
      +5
      And you are this very fighter and this is your personal desire to establish a connection? Isn’t it easier to learn the guard regulations?
    8. Giant thought
      Giant thought 11 September 2014 17: 59
      +1
      At the post, the mobile phone will only distract from the service, you must prohibit using it at the post, defended the shift, you can call, write SMS, etc.
      1. dauria
        dauria 11 September 2014 18: 07
        +8
        The sentry is forbidden to sleep, sit, lean against anything, write, read, sing, talk, eat, drink, smoke, send natural needs or otherwise be distracted from fulfilling his duties, accept from anyone and pass on to anyone no matter what objects, trigger the actions of the technical means of protection, send without the need for a cartridge into the chamber.

        The sentry should answer questions only of the head of the guard, the assistant to the chief of the guard, his guard and those who arrived for check.


        UG and KS, it seems quite clearly written, what is there to change? Will we add "DO NOT PLAY CROSSING _NOLIKI"? soldier
        1. TECHNOLOGY
          TECHNOLOGY 11 September 2014 18: 25
          0
          Before preparing the guard, all prohibited items are seized. Smoking in the guard is only in a specially designated place. At the post-crime. Cell phone at the post-prison is crying. There is a charter. It is unshakable! It is written in blood.
    9. EvilLion
      EvilLion 11 September 2014 18: 13
      +1
      A post is set not just like that, but for the sake of protecting an object, so you do not need to write crap, as a rule, everything that needs to be laid. In general, the task of sentinel surveillance is to conduct, and if he is distracted even by checking documents, then there is no sense in him.
    10. arane
      arane 11 September 2014 18: 13
      +5
      totally agree! but only if it is a standard telephone set for communication! maybe a button, or just a shot in the air in an emergency!
      and what, the new charter of the garrison and guard service came out? In the one that I taught, nothing had to be contributed! All that is forbidden to sentries has been listed!
    11. Civil
      Civil 11 September 2014 18: 17
      -8
      Quote: tomket
      Often, a soldier at the post telephone is the only means of communication with the commander. so, first establish a connection, then prohibit.

      As a result, the phones will be taken away from the ordinary again and the footcloths with boots will be returned!
      1. DV69
        DV69 11 September 2014 19: 53
        0
        Quote: Civil

        As a result, the phones will be taken away from the ordinary again and the footcloths with boots will be returned!


        Civilian, did you serve in the army?
    12. sgazeev
      sgazeev 11 September 2014 18: 18
      +2
      Quote: tomket
      Often, a soldier at the post telephone is the only means of communication with the commander. so, first establish a connection, then prohibit.

      What kind of nonsense? And where is the landline phone? On the guard, you don’t need a mobile phone, only a distributor. Departed, badge. We served as a telephone from the guard, the guard’s chief, the duty officer, and the shift commander, and the howler on alarm. the communications chief must be driven up.
      1. tomket
        tomket 11 September 2014 18: 31
        0
        Quote: sgazeev
        What kind of nonsense? And where is the landline phone? In the guard of the mobile is not needed, communication only with the distributor. Dissolved, plaque.

        Well, you come to the training ground, and what the hell is working there, and whom to drive up yours? landfill manager? It’s good if this happens at all. In general, in everyday life at the training ground and at exercises, mobile, in the absence of a normal and active connection, greatly facilitated life. to those who propose to ban everything at once, without offering in return for a normal modern connection, I can say go to such a grandmother. Naturally, I’m talking about mobile phones as often the only type of communication in the unit, and not about a means of entertainment. I don’t even want to talk about the ancient and murdered r-107m, the shame of the Russian army of the 21 century.
    13. Signaller
      Signaller 11 September 2014 18: 23
      +1
      The fighter at the post has a "REGULATION" and commands. Who needs to hear the firing. Otherwise what
      this guard service ???? "Stop-shoot" and in case of disobedience, immediately into the horn. The most effective way of communication, and you suggest writing SMS, like someone is coming ???? Dibilism is evident, apparently you have an army corridor.
    14. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 11 September 2014 18: 33
      0
      Hmmm, it’s strange, I thought that the ban on playing with the cell during the guard service was the same elements as the ban on smoking, sleeping or playing with arms at the post, and it was introduced into the charter with the advent of the first mobile phones in all countries.
      It is not clear what they have been waiting for so long. request
    15. Savva30
      Savva30 11 September 2014 18: 34
      +1
      I agree. There was a case in practice. An emergency occurred at VGO. They cut off the light in order to avoid an explosion, etc., respectively, the telephone connection disappeared. The radio stations sat down after three hours of intense negotiations. They used mobile phones at night ... so who knows ...
      1. DV69
        DV69 11 September 2014 19: 56
        0
        Quote: Savva30
        I agree. There was a case in practice. An emergency occurred at VGO. They cut off the light in order to avoid an explosion, etc., respectively, the telephone connection disappeared. The radio stations sat down after three hours of intense negotiations. They used mobile phones at night ... so who knows ...


        Sentries also talked on a mobile phone?
    16. tomket
      tomket 11 September 2014 18: 38
      0
      And what, comrades minus, communication, is this the only thing that did not cause a censure in the army? Or does herd instinct work?
    17. Altona
      Altona 11 September 2014 18: 45
      +3
      Quote: tomket
      Often, a soldier at the post telephone is the only means of communication with the commander

      ------------------------
      Mlyn, and 15 years ago how could you do without them, can you tell me?
    18. Akvadra
      Akvadra 11 September 2014 20: 10
      0
      Quote: tomket
      Often, a soldier at the post telephone is the only means of communication with the commander. so, first establish a connection, then prohibit.

      Carefully read the UGiKS. Everything is written very clearly and clearly what is possible at the post and what is not. Written in blood.
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    20. Lobster65
      Lobster65 12 September 2014 03: 34
      +1
      Tambov Aviation Institute from 99 to 04 On guard from the 1st year. There has always been a connection with posts. At posts up to 3 points of communication + radio stations.
      Appendix No. 5 Charter of the guard service of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.
      item 6. Each post is equipped with two-way telephone (intercom) and, if possible, backup radio communications, and for emergency communications with the guardroom - with means of alarm and ringing alarms on the route of the sentry. Communication facilities should provide the sentry (except fixed) from at least two points, and when guarding objects by patrolling, every 250 meters of movement should immediately call the guard commander or reserve guard group.
  2. Kirzhak
    Kirzhak 11 September 2014 17: 37
    +15
    Lucky for the current conscripts! And every week I had to write letters home smile
    1. BOB044
      BOB044 11 September 2014 17: 45
      +23
      But I did not forget the letter.
    2. Nikoha.2010
      Nikoha.2010 11 September 2014 19: 19
      +3
      Quote: Kirzhak
      Lucky for the current conscripts! And every week I had to write letters home smile

      + To the point Dmitry, that was enough for us, my mother still recalls these letters! And the wife, when he was a cadet, but already with stamps and pictures ... There was time!
      1. Vasek
        Vasek 11 September 2014 19: 35
        +2
        Quote: Nikoha.2010
        And the wife when he was a cadet

        And on the back of the envelope:
        "Fly with greetings, come back with an answer!" wink
  3. Berrick
    Berrick 11 September 2014 17: 37
    +5
    About communication with the commander, this is certainly correct - just tell me how it was, for example, in 1987 ??
    1. bvi1965
      bvi1965 11 September 2014 17: 41
      +2
      There were messengers. Gas mask over the shoulder and forward, but this is not at the post.
      1. arane
        arane 11 September 2014 18: 22
        +3
        "Messengers" !!!!!!
        NOTifier
      2. sgazeev
        sgazeev 11 September 2014 18: 54
        0
        Quote: bvi1965
        There were messengers. Gas mask over the shoulder and forward, but this is not at the post.

        The regimental commander had a service phone, the duty officer was on duty for the same with the phone "asleep", the messenger to the kraynyak, to remove the lieutenant with a friend. laughing
    2. tomket
      tomket 11 September 2014 17: 41
      +3
      Quote: Berrik
      just tell me how it was for example in 1987 ??

      About 1987 year I will not say, but I will say how things were in our part. It was issued to the fighters who were killed by r-107m, for example, in a cordon at a training ground, with dead batteries, and come on, report on movements through the checkpoint as you want. I also heard about 08.08.08, about the coordination of cellular and satellite from the hands of journalists.
      1. jjj
        jjj 11 September 2014 18: 16
        +2
        One green rocket - please get in touch.
        One red rocket - a breakthrough towards the border.
        Two red missiles - a breakthrough to our rear.
        Red-green-red - armed invasion
      2. prio124
        prio124 11 September 2014 18: 36
        0
        Yes, unfortunately it was. Pilots say navigators tied on the leg.
      3. sgazeev
        sgazeev 11 September 2014 18: 58
        0
        Quote: tomket
        Quote: Berrik
        just tell me how it was for example in 1987 ??

        About 1987 year I will not say, but I will say how things were in our part. It was issued to the fighters who were killed by r-107m, for example, in a cordon at a training ground, with dead batteries, and come on, report on movements through the checkpoint as you want. I also heard about 08.08.08, about the coordination of cellular and satellite from the hands of journalists.

        In the Soviet Army, this is rare, maybe the builders had, in the missile nonsense, aviation too.
    3. Vasek
      Vasek 11 September 2014 17: 46
      +3
      Quote: Berrik
      About communication with the commander, this is certainly correct - just tell me how it was, for example, in 1987 ??

      With the chief of the guard (and not the commander), through the guard.
      1. Berrick
        Berrick 11 September 2014 18: 03
        +1
        Based on the answers, everything worked and no one at the post without toys died. Almost everyone has the same opinion. I agree!
    4. prio124
      prio124 11 September 2014 18: 35
      +1
      We had a button, and in the distant post
  4. Scoun
    Scoun 11 September 2014 17: 38
    +12
    Damn it, democracy .. I couldn’t attach a fifth point at the post .. but then stop chopping in my toys, bang my friend .. Honestly, I couldn’t even imagine that today there’s free use of mobile phones.
    + Only FOR! To be honest, I didn’t know that the fighters at the posts with mobile phones are completely crazy.


    - Earrings Zdarova! I’m here at the post, spreading in two hours will be. come, I’m embossing a box for you; I'll see that no one is ...
    1. mpa945
      mpa945 11 September 2014 17: 45
      +25
      In general, I believe that m. Telephones for the period of service should be kept in a safe by the "educator" and used only in a special room, in personal time and received against signature. In addition, for the period of service, all accounts in s. Networks must be deleted or blocked. The current mess does not fit into any gate.
      1. vzvodnik
        vzvodnik 11 September 2014 18: 18
        0
        Quote: mpa945
        m. telephones for the period of service should be kept in a safe at the "educator" and used only in a special room, in personal time and received against signature

        Which is what we practice.
    2. Fregate
      Fregate 11 September 2014 18: 20
      +2
      I served in the mid 2000s. We couldn’t take anything at all for the post, except maybe military tickets (or maybe I don’t remember putting them out). And here on you, only such a law is accepted. We were forbidden to have mobile phones at all, even outside the guard.
  5. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 11 September 2014 17: 38
    +15
    Quote: tomket
    Often, a soldier at the post telephone is the only means of communication with the commander. so, first establish a connection, then prohibit.

    but in my opinion they are fucked up with democracy: the phone, sneakers, "admiral's hour", cancel the outfits for the kitchen ... let's finish the game ... try to make their peasants like that. fool
  6. Revolver
    Revolver 11 September 2014 17: 39
    +2
    In America, it has long been forbidden for children to bring a telephone to school. And somehow in the news it slipped through that some school banned the wearing of boots, in particular the Ugg type, because they carry phones in them.
    1. VICTOR-61
      VICTOR-61 11 September 2014 18: 20
      +1
      But for some reason, in America, pistols with machine guns carry and kill their classmates and this is not an isolated case - it’s better if they carry strangeness to a mobile however
  7. Neighbor
    Neighbor 11 September 2014 17: 39
    +2
    With deputies a similar situation. Only who will take away from them, they are deputies.
    1. Starmos
      Starmos 11 September 2014 18: 06
      +4
      And the Minister of the Interior will select and guard him while they sit, and then he will hand them out. One hell doesn’t do anything, but at least it’ll get used to a tip ...
  8. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 11 September 2014 17: 40
    +2
    Self-discipline is required. Soldier on duty - must follow the regulations of the guard duty, and not purr with a friend.
  9. Cadet8486
    Cadet8486 11 September 2014 17: 40
    +5
    He was on duty with a miniature radio receiver. I plugged in my headphones and enjoyed "Radio Mayak". Okay!!!! As a result, 5 outfits out of turn, since the senior course on kichu was no longer planted.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 11 September 2014 17: 53
      +4
      Quote: Cadet8486
      , the benefit the senior course on kitsch is no longer planted.

      what a pity...
  10. Vasek
    Vasek 11 September 2014 17: 41
    +3
    And who in general thought of allowing extraneous "activities" to the sentry ?!
    In Soviet times - to eat, drink, smoke and (my favorite prohibition) to pass on to someone and take from someone any objects ...
    Of course, there were no phones then, but the thought itself seemed wild!
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 11 September 2014 17: 54
      +3
      Quote: Vasek
      In Soviet times - to eat, drink, smoke and (my favorite prohibition) to pass on to someone and take from someone any objects ...

      forgot to send about natural needs ...- it's generally cool! wassat
      1. Vasek
        Vasek 11 September 2014 18: 03
        0
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        forgot to send about natural needs ...- it's generally cool!

        laughing laughing laughing
        Yes, I blundered!
        That was a long time ago...
        1. Fregate
          Fregate 11 September 2014 18: 24
          +2
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          forgot to send about natural needs ...- it's generally cool!

          Quote: Vasek
          Yes, I blundered!
          That was a long time ago.

          At our divorce, before entering the guard, one fighter said that it is forbidden to accept from anyone and transfer to anyone natural necessities. laughing
          1. Lobster65
            Lobster65 16 September 2014 06: 06
            0
            Sentinel is a corpse
            Wrapped in a sheepskin coat.
            Instructed to tears
            And exposed to frost. laughing
    2. arane
      arane 11 September 2014 18: 25
      +2
      there was still talking and no distractions (it's me on the phone)
  11. Good cat
    Good cat 11 September 2014 17: 42
    +3
    and about the letters, remember what a joy it was to receive a letter, this was an event, and so I took and wrote an SMS and it’s not even like a service
  12. TECHNOLOGY
    TECHNOLOGY 11 September 2014 17: 44
    +7
    I don’t understand. What the hell out of the Sotik at the post. There is a Charter for the Garrison and Sentry. There is black and white that the sentry is forbidden. The layout doesn’t change. The soldier in the post with the Sotik is a potential corpse. And you can’t prove to his parents that he died while chatting with girlfriend.Com.chastey.We will work, or how? Tear in the Army is coming from you. Chases to you have been given for a reason. Stop engaged in gouging. Nowadays, cigarettes, matches in a taboo guard. What's up? Isn't it tough ask with com.v / h?
    1. Lobster65
      Lobster65 16 September 2014 06: 40
      0
      Buddy Situevina is the following. The commander (REALLY) has disciplinary power only over double basses. To lose bonuses for conscientious and efficient performance of official duties.
      Pencils for the number of reprimands and strict on the drum. Only in the Caucasus and Dagestan there is a letter (call) to the Motherland (Verified). The characteristic is basically also a bolt. Lip only by court order. And if the commander starts all this "kotovasiya", then at the military council, he looks pale, after the distribution of gingerbread from the commander.
      At first we had a "honeycomb" tree. When the fighter himself nailed the phone with a hundred. But after the arrival of the prosecutor's office, this had to be abandoned. Something like that.
  13. vsoltan
    vsoltan 11 September 2014 17: 45
    +11
    In general, disgrace and carelessness ... 2-3 hours of the guard can not "live" without a mobile phone. Let us recall the Charter of the USSR Guard Service: While on guard, a soldier has no right to sit, sleep, smoke, whistle, send his natural needs, etc. "- and this is correct. In recent times, the so-called" democracy "in the army has reached its climax ... the conditions are kindergarten ... the menu is optional .. toilet paper, not a page from the same Charter .. "a set of conscript soldiers" .. are we all so young, tender and affectionate? Will the troops be able to solve combat missions? What the hell is democracy in the Army? In the army - one-man command. And the point .. And idiocy under the guise of democracy and tolerance .... it would still not be a bad thing p.e.d. a.s.t.a. to serve together, not to part, as in the USSR it was prescribed for the consanguineous rags. The apotheosis of liberal marasmus! So this is an absolutely correct initiative ... the people are already decayed, the army must be saved!
    1. vsoltan
      vsoltan 11 September 2014 18: 17
      +2
      Discussing with myself, I think that the so-called. "Chaplains", in other words, priests - they will not interfere in the army, but it is time for the Supreme Commander and Shoigu to think about reviving the institution of military political workers :-)
  14. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 11 September 2014 17: 50
    +2
    M ... yes, a bad case. And most importantly, not only children can suffer from it. It’s not uncommon to roll over. It’s not only a matter of taking control of the army. But at the post, it’s a shame at all. And if, for example, a surgeon grabs a phone during an operation to write an answer in a hurry ..
  15. TECHNOLOGY
    TECHNOLOGY 11 September 2014 17: 53
    +3
    Vyacheslav! hi Soon they won’t go to dismissal without toilet paper. What’s going on! Butt the mosquito of these commanders! am
    1. pts-m
      pts-m 11 September 2014 18: 16
      0
      or how in the Aglitz army their landings refused to participate in exercises in Norway. The reason is banal simple ... Diapers in the cold freeze to piers ... it seems that in our units they have reached this level.
    2. vsoltan
      vsoltan 11 September 2014 18: 19
      0
      I appreciated the joke, but I don’t agree ... they’ll just go to the dismissal ... they will even run ... and to the battle?
  16. Starmos
    Starmos 11 September 2014 17: 54
    +1
    The army is not a telephone booth, not a telegraph office, not a library, not an Internet cafe, and, moreover, not a gambling club. The current "Teletubbies" serve only one year. What phones and tablets are on guard? Also say - on the march. Have they collapsed from the oak? In personal time, in Lenkomnat, on leave - no questions asked. And while on duty - it's ... damn it, "lip" - definitely!
  17. LVMI1980
    LVMI1980 11 September 2014 17: 54
    +7
    In my time, for not leaving matches or a smoker at the checkpoint in front of the closed territory (even if I just forgot to get it from my pocket) I went straight to the special police officer.
    If it were to be respected now, the old arsenals would explode
  18. wanderer
    wanderer 11 September 2014 17: 57
    +2
    there should be no phones on the post, - definitely ... imagine the post No. 1 of our country, - stands with a watch carbine in the parade and pops on the mobile, and we stand and admire .... someone will say that I turned down ... then the sentries are somehow different ... in Zabvo it is possible, but here it is impossible. OK.
  19. andr327
    andr327 11 September 2014 17: 58
    +5
    Mobile phones are currently the best unmasking sign: the activity of negotiations, the location, and the tasks being solved. Very often used to solve tactical tasks, so to speak, not only by soldiers, but also by commanders. Reasons: the lack of reliable communication due to the lack of these modern means in the units, the usual sloppiness, and not the desire to organize this connection.
    On the field position of the Strategic Missile Forces, from the mouth of the commander of a large unit to a subordinate officer: "Why don't you have a mobile phone?" I ooh .....
    1. wanderer
      wanderer 11 September 2014 18: 00
      +1
      ...... sucks jam on your position.
  20. erased
    erased 11 September 2014 17: 59
    +4
    Lived a pancake! Mobiles at the sentries !!! Pampers haven’t been given them yet? Kinks in one direction or the other! And is this the Russian army ?! What kind of tanks, missiles, planes are there, if there are kids without brains in the ranks?
  21. Putnik960
    Putnik960 11 September 2014 18: 01
    +1
    Listen to which phones, which SMS. A soldier on duty, communications must work. It is necessary to finish "kindergarten!
  22. Alexander S.
    Alexander S. 11 September 2014 18: 03
    +6
    hmm .. served two years ago. and we only gave out on Sundays for 4 hours. And nothing .. no one was snooping .. for a week they lived somehow .. they were doing business .. but about the guard and there was nothing to say .. they couldn’t even smoke .. what can we say about cell phones .. The officers simply dismiss their fighters. And so yes .. it is necessary to forbid .. because there is no need to hope for consciousness.
  23. parafoiler
    parafoiler 11 September 2014 18: 05
    0
    It came a long time. Wow, damn it!
  24. Des10
    Des10 11 September 2014 18: 07
    0
    Where in the Charters there is about a mobile phone - and even for POST !!! Shame.
    The telephone is in the safe and is issued in your free time and on weekends.
    All.
    But conscripts should not have free time at all - after all, they serve.
  25. quote
    quote 11 September 2014 18: 08
    0
    Her joy on the topic:
    The leader of the "Right Sector" Dmitry Yarosh was fatally wounded in the neck. This was stated by Yevgeny Zhilin, chairman of the Kharkiv public organization Oplot.

    According to him, the participants of the Oplot went to the area where Dmitry Yarosh was supposed to be. They detained a man who informed them of the mortally wounded leader of the Right Sector. According to Zhilin, the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Arsen Avakov, fearing revenge of the volunteer battalions for the failure of the special operation in the Donbass, is wiretapping the conversations of the command of some punitive leaders, after which he "leaks" the information received to the militia. Yevgeny Zhilin believes that in this way the Ukrainian authorities get rid of nationalists who threaten to arrange a third Maidan.

    The whereabouts of Dmitry Yarosh were transferred to Oplot, whose members launched an artillery attack on his house, as a result of which the leader of the Right Sector was mortally wounded.

    “I can’t say that Yarosh is dead,” Zhilina quotes REGNUM. At the same time, the leader of Oplot noted that Dmitry Yarosh stopped appearing in public.
  26. vorchyn_ymka
    vorchyn_ymka 11 September 2014 18: 08
    0
    I also didn’t understand something .. there is a Charter of the guard service, where EVERYTHING is written down ... it is forbidden at the post .. Article 209. of the guard duty am The sentry is forbidden to sleep, sit, lean against anything, write, read, sing, talk, eat, drink, smoke, send natural needs or otherwise be distracted from fulfilling his duties, accept from anyone and pass on to anyone no matter what objects, trigger the actions of the technical means of protection, send without the need for a cartridge into the chamber.
    The sentry should answer questions only of the head of the guard, the assistant to the chief of the guard, his guard and those who arrived for check.
    Like nothing has changed ?? which phones? matches and cigarettes passed ..
  27. dydyka1905
    dydyka1905 11 September 2014 18: 09
    0
    The charter clearly states that it is forbidden to conduct any conversations with the sentry. Let the father commanders study the instructions and articles everything is said there.
  28. TECHNOLOGY
    TECHNOLOGY 11 September 2014 18: 12
    +4
    The direct connivance of the commanders. Fucking bloody! Something reminiscing recalled:He slept peacefully before the Army. He knew that they were protecting me. He didn’t sleep in the Army, he defended himself. Now I'm afraid to sleep. I know how to protect.And this is not a joke. Reality, it seems!
  29. Dzhanych
    Dzhanych 11 September 2014 18: 13
    0
    Quote: Cadet8486
    He was on duty with a miniature radio receiver. I plugged in my headphones and enjoyed "Radio Mayak". Okay!!!! As a result, 5 outfits out of turn, since the senior course on kichu was no longer planted.

    In our guard, the intercom at one of the posts gave such tips that the song itself was singing! All the fun! And without sanctions!
  30. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 11 September 2014 18: 14
    +4
    In the Army, mobile phones need to be banned ... With current technologies, this is a real fawn .. And in military operations it will be covered 100% or even worse that they will shoot at each other ... I don’t remember where .. the militiamen on mobile phones talked pretty big the group was .. almost completely covered .. (say the Americans from the satellites corrected the fire (according to the signals of mobile phones) So think what was happening ..
    1. Evgeniy667b
      Evgeniy667b 11 September 2014 18: 37
      +1
      Totally agree with you! The personnel should not have mobile phones, tablets and computers in the army, maybe, with the exception of the barracks, at certain times. Got it, passed it. Too serious consequences could be.
  31. JonnyT
    JonnyT 11 September 2014 18: 27
    +1
    what phone is on the post ???????? in the guard statute it is clearly written: ...... or in another way to be distracted from service .....
  32. tundra
    tundra 11 September 2014 18: 28
    0
    An article about mobiles caused such a stir (and rightly so). But I’m thinking how did we live without them before? And everywhere they managed and there was enough room, now the battery is over and you feel like naked.
    1. tundra
      tundra 11 September 2014 18: 37
      +1
      Oh yeah, what kind of cell phones at the post. With the same success you can discuss whether it is possible for a watch woman at the post. Such a gamer will play shooting games, finish the game of ghlyad and his head lies next to him.
  33. Massik
    Massik 11 September 2014 18: 30
    +3
    As Senior Warrant Officer N said when he was the commander of the guard, "You can have any personal belongings with you, but they should be shoved into one small hole in your body called a" point ".
    Relaxation at the posts is an inevitable occurrence in calm areas, it is treated simply with a line of bushes over the guard’s head - at least half a year is enough.
    Our FSB carried out monthly checks by throwing dummy IEDs and running around the perimeter. I missed or found, but did not detain the "terrorist" - be kind enough to be dismissed from the guard and arranged in an eternal kitchen outfit. Accordingly, the nachkar, pomnachkar, breeder and cheerful woman received a lulli in full, the hero of the occasion, in addition to the kitchen naz, lived in the toilet for 3 days, bringing it to crystal cleanliness ...
  34. bylec
    bylec 11 September 2014 18: 30
    +2
    Gentlemen, I certainly wildly apologize, but about 40 years ago
    I stood at the post without any cellular communications and everything was fine because the charter of the guard service probably since Peter the Great has everything
  35. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT 11 September 2014 18: 35
    +2
    In the cadet years, oh long ago it was, in the capital, now not a friendly state, Riga had to carry out guard duty as in a garrison. so in the inner guard. At the same time, I do not remember that at least one post was not equipped with means of communication with the guardhouse. Mobile devices, of course, are an integral part of our everyday life. Exit, say from home, without a phone, the mood does not rise. BUT nevertheless, guard duty is the fulfillment of a combat mission in peacetime, as the Charter of the garrison and guard service says .... I am sure that phones are not acceptable in the guardhouse and especially at the post, as factors distracting from the service. Democracy with noisy mother committees should nevertheless have boundaries of admissibility and expediency.
  36. pvv113
    pvv113 11 September 2014 18: 36
    +4
    amend the military regulations of the guard service prohibiting the sentry from using his personal mobile phone at the post

    In the Soviet Union, the Charter of the garrison and guard service forbade the sentry anything that interfered with the performance of duties:
    174. Sentinels are prohibited from: sleeping, sitting, leaning against something, writing, reading, singing, talking, eating, drinking, smoking, sending natural necessities, accepting from anyone and passing on to anyone Items sent without the need for a cartridge in the chamber.

    The sentry should answer questions only of the head of the guard, his assistant, his guard and those who arrived for inspection.

    Before taking up the post, we handed over to the nachkar all foreign objects: cigarettes, matches, lighters, etc. And here the toy at the post is a miracle !!! What alertness can we talk about? hi
  37. Shono Khan
    Shono Khan 11 September 2014 18: 43
    +2
    Quote: tomket
    Often, a soldier at the post telephone is the only means of communication with the commander. so, first establish a connection, then prohibit.


    You see you did not serve in the armies? Did you read the charter of the guard service (crammed, what would "grandfather" ask, and you as "our father"), were you on duty, or at least on a "bedside table"? If not, do not strike akinea to carry the "couch warrior". And with regard to the article, everything is provided for in the Charter (guard service). Maybe we will also put a sentry with a laptop? (((((
  38. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 11 September 2014 19: 05
    +1
    in many barracks there is a real struggle between soldiers of military service and commanders: commanders curse and take away telephones, and soldiers buy new devices and hide them in pockets and hiding places, continuing to live from the emesca to the emesca
    The military police, with the involvement of the forces and means of electronic intelligence, to deploy extensive measures to monitor the use of cellular communications in places of permanent deployment of troops, during redeployment, in places of military exercises, conducting special measures. Actively cooperate with counterintelligence agencies on the ground and cellular operators. be aware that it is a military crime to conduct negotiations on the phone or to be active on social networks by military personnel at unregulated times or at a facility with a special regime, because. provides foreign intelligence services with great opportunities for collecting and analyzing information of a secret nature. In general, "death" to spies, a mobile phone at the post --- the whole company is doing push-ups on the parade ground !! in a good sense of the word) But do not give a descent either. In a word, vigilance, vigilance and again vigilance !! am )))))
  39. sgazeev
    sgazeev 11 September 2014 19: 07
    0
    US air strikes against the "Islamic State" in Syria in the absence of a UN Security Council decision would be an act of aggression. This was announced on Thursday by the spokesman for the Russian Foreign Ministry, Alexander Lukashevich, commenting on the statement of US President Barack Obama that Washington was ready to bomb Syrian territory. Here is one man ... he decided that everything is allowed to him, and our soldier is crying on your mobile phone. “Serve according to the charter, you will win honor and glory!” And not a single monkey, all sorts of oatmeal, sausage puddings can defeat a Russian soldier. soldier
  40. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 11 September 2014 19: 08
    +1
    Quote: vorchyn_ymka
    send unnecessarily a cartridge into the chamber.
    as soon as the car drove off, the cartridge was already in place! after the boar drove one salabon to the fungus ... wassat
    1. serg2.72
      serg2.72 11 September 2014 19: 26
      0
      I wanted to write that electronics is bad, but the thing is different. In 1991, all watch outfits (no further than 20 meters from the duty room), patrol, etc., all with radio stations. Small ones, called Angstrom, Zelenograd did. Digital, closed channels. The customs officers with their Motoralls watched with envy, because the connection with the base was at 5, even from the hold. So it is not necessary to prohibit, but to work and supply individual means of communication to the Army, and not just to PV !!!
  41. Evilcat
    Evilcat 11 September 2014 19: 11
    +1
    What was that nonsense? Well, what for were additions made? In the old charter everything was specifically written.
    174. Sentinels are prohibited from: sleeping, sitting, leaning against
    anything, write, read, sing, talk, eat, drink,
    smoke, send natural necessities, take from anyone
    and transfer any objects to anyone,
    send unnecessarily a cartridge into the chamber.
    The sentry should answer questions only of the head of the guard,
    his assistant, his breeder and those who arrived for inspection.
  42. Aydar
    Aydar 11 September 2014 19: 12
    +2
    Not an army damn it, but a kindergarten, first SMSki will be sent, then there will be tea with raspberry jam at the post to drink. The soldiers were very upset, the hazing is already not the same.
  43. TECHNOLOGY
    TECHNOLOGY 11 September 2014 19: 15
    0
    It was Yurich! hi It was in the distant 80s! Then, however, no one checked the capsules. They remain on them when the cartridge is in the cartridge. But when I was an officer, it was the same in the guards. laughing
  44. ATF
    ATF 11 September 2014 20: 58
    +2
    1987 year. In-depth command post of the Air Defense Army. We are on daily duty during the night shift, we follow the "order and rules for the use of airspace." We don't touch anyone. Everything is quiet. The OD (operational duty officer), apparently, has become bored or offended that he cannot show his "combat" skills at night, announces a training alert for the entire shift of the command post. There is nowhere to go - everyone ran somewhere, reported something, etc. etc. strictly according to the regulations. The results of the OD, apparently, did not entertain and he (OD) ordered the emergency evacuation of part of the l / s on the shift. Evacuation, so evacuation. A group of "extras" ("least valuable crew members") in the amount of several dozen people (including l / s communication center - ladies of different stature) gathered near the planned emergency exit from the underground structure.
    And all would be fine that the lock on the emergency exit hatch does not "fury" (broke) and that a vertical staircase (about 3 meters long) from the floor to the hatch under the ceiling ends a meter from the hatch (and most of the evacuated ladies and some warrant officers from do not associate themselves with sports).
    The drama of this light performance crowned the finale (aka the apotheosis), played out outside the control room. Well, just imagine. It’s night outside, silence, no one touches anyone, no portends of trouble, there are no checks, no teachings, beauty. And suddenly (almost like a classic: "suddenly out of my mother's bedroom, bow-legged and lame, runs out ...") from under the ground right under the feet of a "fighter" (without any warning), bypassing the entrusted territory in the middle of dense forests, crawling out grunting strained and commenting on what is happening, some figures, increasing in number. The fighter, apparently, has mastered the UGiKS well, and therefore a set of extortions, natural for any normal person who finds himself in a similar situation, emotions, "put" the formed group face down. Yes, the group arguably expressed its position, using all my abilities in the oral field, incl. not normative speech. However, the group lay down (and where can you go after a formidable warning and twitching the bolt and the direction of the barrel in your direction).
    How did the debriefing end, incl. between the OD and DC, and after the surrender of duty and the commander of the unit, history is silent, but the soldier from the perimeter was encouraged. Deservedly.
    Order should be in everything, no one has repealed the charter. The enemy will not pass.
    And about the non-statutory means of fixation, recording, reception and transmission to the database or in attire - to forget.
    On this and stand.
  45. Major Yurik
    Major Yurik 11 September 2014 21: 05
    +2
    Quote: bylec
    Gentlemen, I certainly wildly apologize, but about 40 years ago
    I stood at the post without any cellular communications and everything was fine because the charter of the guard service probably since Peter the Great has everything


    Hmm! Remembering the same 40 years ago, I’m not sure what I would tell the platoon if he found an art book in my possession, even in the guardhouse, and not just at the post!

    The general and the nachkar check the posts. At the post of the Chukchi. General: Who are you, son? Chukchi, however. General: Petty Officer, explain to the soldier who he is on guard! On the way back, he again asks-Who are you, son? Sentinel, however! Mom-hourly, dad-hourly, grandfather-hourly, fuck me in the train! soldier
    1. Was mammoth
      Was mammoth 11 September 2014 22: 49
      0
      Quote: Major Yurik
      x, what would I tell the platoon if he found an art book in my possession, even in the guardhouse

      Your untruth! wink There are always several pieces of fiction in the guardhouse. The name of the book is only one - the Charter.
      Of course, I served for a long time and did not read the modern Charter, but something tells me that the modern Charter should not differ much from what I once learned by heart.
  46. yura9113
    yura9113 12 September 2014 00: 07
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    I'm honestly in shock, what phones and tablets at the post?!? it's ..... nowadays (95 g.), they were caught from VHF receivers in the barracks and put in the outfit, and now .. nonsense
  47. Vasily Klopkov
    Vasily Klopkov 12 September 2014 01: 27
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    And, probably, this is correct. Here the fascist Geletey generally said that the Ukrainians of the ATO had a shit because of gadgets :)))
  48. Zomanus
    Zomanus 12 September 2014 05: 36
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    Mobile phone for communication with the command? Yes Easy. Super-budget mobile, which can be contacted by a certain number of numbers. It seems to do this for children. There is also a SOS button with automatic dialing to a specific number. Well, when you intercede, you surrender your smart, you get a service one ... And when a fighter with a left mobile is found, this one is seized and issued when leaving for a demobilization.
  49. Ryuuk
    Ryuuk 12 September 2014 08: 24
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    Now relax is continuous in the army. All these innovations only pamper the soldier.