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The second Russian humanitarian convoy stands in the Rostov region. Permission to cross the border from ukrovlasy no

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The second Russian humanitarian mission (a humanitarian convoy) again cannot cross the border with Ukraine. KamAZ trucks with two thousand tons of humanitarian aid are located on the territory of the Rostov region - drivers are waiting for the permission of Kiev to move across the border. No such permission yet. Reports about it LifeNews with reference to the representative of the Council of Federation, member of the Committee of public support for residents of the south-east of Ukraine.

According to information from the Ministry of Emergency Situations, trucks transport not only food, medicines, sleeping bags, but also means for water purification, as well as mobile diesel power plants.

Initially, it was said that the second humanitarian convoy could go to the Donbass by rail, but decided to use the old option of cargo delivery, namely, KamAZ vehicles.

The second Russian humanitarian convoy stands in the Rostov region. Permission to cross the border from ukrovlasy no


Representatives of the International Committee of the Red Cross, through which talks are being held once again with the Ukrainian side, declare that the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine ignores all appeals so far. The Russian side and the ICRC decided to appeal to the Verkhovna Rada.

Apparently, Kiev will pull back with an official response this time, so is there any point in waiting for such a response from the Ukrainian authorities, if their task of helping the residents of the southeast is not included? Lose time again?
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  1. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 11 September 2014 12: 02
    +9
    The second time on the same rake, well, well. We will wait again for a long time.
    1. afire
      afire 11 September 2014 12: 04
      +17
      I think of the 3 day and they will go without any permissions
      1. DVxa
        DVxa 11 September 2014 12: 21
        +3
        It’s good that the cargo didn’t go by train ..
        How many losses due to downtime would be .. Although it is incorrect to count money in such cases, but still ..
        So they want to spoil nedopolitiki ..
      2. g1v2
        g1v2 11 September 2014 12: 38
        +7
        It will be so, but before international organizations we must demonstrate that we are doing everything according to the law. Now the OSCE and the Red Cross, if they do not agree with us, then they treat Kiev badly. So if we follow the formalities and pretend that we are waiting for permission from Kuev, then they will not make noise when we do not wait for this permission.
      3. Balbes_I
        Balbes_I 11 September 2014 12: 39
        +3
        And after unloading, the continuation of the military-humanitarian operation of the army of New Russia will begin.
      4. VICTOR-61
        VICTOR-61 11 September 2014 12: 55
        +1
        I also think so for three days and humanitarian aid must be moved, and again dill will be pulled to cold weather and the inhabitants have nothing to do with what fascism has come to; only Akhmetov’s help sells 180 hryvnias for a package he considers this help for money this is a business he has so little for him his money he is no different from other Ukrainian billionaires how to make money in the war
      5. vladmetro
        vladmetro 11 September 2014 14: 52
        0
        Quote: afire
        I think of the 3 day and they will go without any permissions

        Yes 100%. I think no one else counted. The main thing is for the West to understand that Russia was waiting and did not wait. Then she decided.
        Interestingly, the Hero-Ukrainians will again say that we have introduced regular troops ??? laughing
    2. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 11 September 2014 12: 06
      +10
      Shaw again ..? got it already! New Russia is not Ukraine for a long time why does it need permission? Send as the first time ...
      1. Telakh
        Telakh 11 September 2014 12: 08
        +10
        Another 150 tons of diesel fuel for the "tractors" of Novorossia? Well done!
        Would not drag out until the end of the truce.
      2. msd
        msd 11 September 2014 12: 43
        0
        why does she need permission.?

        courtesy ...
        There is no answer - we deliver the goods according to the first option
    3. Giant thought
      Giant thought 11 September 2014 12: 12
      +2
      For the junta, the worse the better.
    4. Koresh
      Koresh 11 September 2014 12: 21
      +8
      I don’t get it? It is necessary to negotiate with the authorities of Novorosia, and not with the Ukrainian authorities. After all, de facto there is already an independent state.
      1. g1v2
        g1v2 11 September 2014 12: 48
        +8
        De facto does not mean de jure. We are now doing our utmost to incite international organizations to dill and show that we are not violating international law and are ready to provide the Obs and MKK with control over these convoys. If we do not defiantly ask for permission from ukrov, then international organizations will not help. The main task of these organizations is to fix what we are doing without breaking the laws and confirm this, for example, at a UN meeting. Look, when Kiev was screaming about our tanks, the OSCE said that there was no movement of equipment through areas controlled by the OSCE and the noise quickly died down. Only Ukrainians scream about our troops across the border, but Europe has not believed them for a long time. So, it is not in vain that the GDP spills the OSCE and other organizations, they are an independent witness who has weight in Europe and which can be referenced.
        1. Bear in the north
          Bear in the north 11 September 2014 13: 17
          +1
          So I also think so. Although it is so difficult to wait, especially when the children are hungry.
        2. officer29
          officer29 11 September 2014 13: 34
          +1
          You are absolutely right!!! Now it is necessary to wait for permission before receiving permission from Kiev! Otherwise, if we act like the first time, there will be no limit to the hysteria of the West. If the convoy enters without permission and escorts, then wait 2-3 days for a provocation from the dill: Russia, under the guise of a humanitarian convoy, imported weapons and ammunition into the territory not controlled by the Ukrainian authorities, after which the terrorists opened fire on the civilian population and the troops of Ukraine! Russia supports terrorists, committed aggression and took out the port of Mariupol on the way back ... Funny? .. Not really. After the first convoy, the ukrosmi were hysterical that Russia had taken out the corpses of its mercenaries and equipment of several strategically important enterprises for Ukraine! Some publications are still hysterical, not to mention the particularly "maydanut" citizens of the "Square".
          1. yushch
            yushch 11 September 2014 14: 58
            +1
            And to hell with them, let them yell. We help children, women, old people. Sanctions will be introduced anyway, I don't think anyone in Russia will reproach VVP in another "aggression."
    5. Alexander I
      Alexander I 11 September 2014 13: 28
      0
      Poorly learned lesson. There are clearly no brains, only languages.
    6. aleks 62
      aleks 62 11 September 2014 14: 45
      0
      ........ Mocking with..ki ..... Need and over them as well ..... In winter without gas .... am
  2. Mihail177
    Mihail177 11 September 2014 12: 04
    +1
    Does it make sense to wait for such an answer from ukrovlasti, if their tasks do not include assistance to residents of the southeast? Wasting time again?
    Here is the answer to the question. There's no point!
  3. kit-kat
    kit-kat 11 September 2014 12: 05
    +12
    It is necessary to negotiate with the DNI and LC, and not with Ukraine. Why pretend that Ukraine still exists?
    1. GCD
      GCD 11 September 2014 12: 10
      +6
      100% agree with you! And then dill ?!
    2. Alekseir162
      Alekseir162 11 September 2014 12: 20
      +3
      Moreover, the checkpoints are in the hands of the militias, or I don’t understand something.
    3. AQUARIUS 65
      AQUARIUS 65 11 September 2014 13: 07
      +2
      kit-kat
      It is necessary to negotiate with the DNI and LC, and not with Ukraine.

      De facto it is. However, de jure for this, at least, Russia must recognize the sovereignty of Novorossia. Otherwise, as it is not regrettable, the issue must be resolved, after all, with Kiev. Otherwise, you won't get the stench again: all Western politicians, and even more so in the United States, will again yell "Russia is an aggressor!" See g1v2's comment below.
      1. Dies Irae
        Dies Irae 11 September 2014 14: 09
        0
        Quote: AQUARIUS 65
        Otherwise, you won't get the stench again: all Western politicians, and even more so in the United States, will again yell "Russia is the aggressor!"


        Who cares ... already all Ukrainians are sure that instead of the first humanitarian convoy, Russia brought in inflatable tanks, aircraft carriers and tens of thousands of soldiers. And with this convoy everything will be exactly the same, even if you put Yatsenyuk in every KamAZ. There paranoia and hysteria completely captured the minds! Absolute madness, a whole nation of crazy people.
  4. shishakova
    shishakova 11 September 2014 12: 06
    +2
    I begin to doubt that the Kiev authorities in their mind))
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 11 September 2014 12: 14
      +3
      Quote: shishakova
      I begin to doubt that the Kiev authorities in their mind))

      And until today, were you sure that they were all right with their heads?
  5. tomket
    tomket 11 September 2014 12: 07
    +6
    The first convoy is the counter-offensive of the militia. The second convoy is the second phase of the counterattack. Such is the stewed stew)))
    1. rainufa
      rainufa 11 September 2014 13: 10
      0
      that's why there is no permission.
  6. Roman1970
    Roman1970 11 September 2014 12: 07
    +4
    Ignore? Well, probably, it is necessary, as last time, without permission ... It is desirable that international organizations record the fact of ignore ...
  7. Shoma-1970
    Shoma-1970 11 September 2014 12: 08
    +4
    "There is no permission to cross the border from the ukrovlast again"


    And why does Kum need it ?!
  8. tomket
    tomket 11 September 2014 12: 09
    0
    And then there will be "South-Eastern Express" convoys.
  9. GCD
    GCD 11 September 2014 12: 09
    +4
    They’re getting ready to tune in to the elections! These fascists are not going to care about anyone! They are only interested in their ass in a soft chair!
  10. Vend
    Vend 11 September 2014 12: 10
    +2
    They will continue to pull, it will be the same as last time. wink
  11. GCD
    GCD 11 September 2014 12: 13
    +2
    Changing it only scares all this movement! With the replacement of the leadership of New Russia! I don’t seem to have anything against Zakharchenko! But in my city it’s more pleasant to see Bolotov! In short, politics, a dark forest!
  12. DMB-75
    DMB-75 11 September 2014 12: 14
    +8
    ... you just have to go straight to the leaders of the DPR and LPR and not wait for the weather from the sea. negative
  13. spec.78
    spec.78 11 September 2014 12: 15
    +8
    I propose to sell KAMAZ vehicles to individuals living in Luhansk and Donetsk for 5 kopecks, along with cargo and additional fuel. Well, the fact that they, along with food, will also bring shells, NURSs for "Grad", grenade launchers, etc. ........... well, we have something to do with it request we did not know that. Well, then they will sell us the trucks back
    1. Ober.K
      Ober.K 11 September 2014 12: 23
      +2
      Great idea !!! fellow
  14. Carlos
    Carlos 11 September 2014 12: 15
    +5
    So, like permission to cross the border, you need to ask the militia? The Ukrainians have little control.
    1. Ober.K
      Ober.K 11 September 2014 12: 26
      0
      That's right too! bully
  15. Bronik
    Bronik 11 September 2014 12: 16
    +2
    It turns out that when the third convoy goes and we will not ask permission.
    1. jjj
      jjj 11 September 2014 13: 37
      0
      Notify of the passage
  16. Matrosov
    Matrosov 11 September 2014 12: 16
    +2
    Well, gentlemen, for the sake of decency it is necessary to observe a certain "protocol". Ask, knock, make statements, contact the "World Community" and the UN / OSCE / IWC. But a week later, the convoy will go.
    Interestingly, and after it will be another offensive of New Russia?)
  17. Pro100Igor
    Pro100Igor 11 September 2014 12: 17
    +13
    Another tyagomotina, in search of a dirty trick.
    1. Drednout
      Drednout 11 September 2014 12: 34
      +2
      Yes! Eighteen-wheeled wagons. Multiply by 280 and get over 5000 tires! Plus spare parts!
  18. cnbv
    cnbv 11 September 2014 12: 20
    0
    And what, there is no other passage for humanitarian aid? Or politically correct games with the Nazis?
    1. hawk
      hawk 11 September 2014 13: 24
      0
      They are merrymaking ...
  19. kolyhalovs
    kolyhalovs 11 September 2014 12: 20
    +2
    Why does everyone think that last time without permission? Without inspection, the Ukrainian border guards who arrived didn’t begin to search anyway, yes, but there was permission. And now the situation has developed quietly, and Kiev is no longer a PR, and people are not interested in them. So they will never give permission. But we cannot ignore Kiev, because we do not recognize New Russia. For us, officially, Donetsk and Lugansk regions are Ukraine, so that no people broadcast there ... This is especially obvious after Minsk. I wonder how this convoy will go? Something seems to me that here it began to make a fuss so that Kiev could be promoted. Then it will pass.
  20. fridge
    fridge 11 September 2014 12: 24
    +2
    The DNI controls the borders, we import everything.
    1. GCD
      GCD 11 September 2014 12: 30
      0
      And not the DNI current! Forgot more about the LC) The cargo is still being transported through Izvarino, and this is the LC territory!
      1. nablydatel
        nablydatel 11 September 2014 18: 13
        0
        this is the border of novorosiya, and here Ukraine or Moscow did not recognize novorosia, it seems so if they ask permission from Kiev for some reason.
  21. asar
    asar 11 September 2014 12: 30
    +1
    We stand. We wait. And what for ?! Go! "Put" on the dill! And go!
  22. Sergei1982
    Sergei1982 11 September 2014 12: 36
    +1
    Quote: afire
    I think of the 3 day and they will go without any permissions

    I agree with you to wait 3 days and if again they will be wise to go by themselves.
  23. shitovmg
    shitovmg 11 September 2014 12: 38
    0
    Quote: Matrosov
    Well, gentlemen, for the sake of decency it is necessary to observe a certain "protocol". Ask, knock, make statements, contact the "World Community" and the UN / OSCE / IWC. But a week later, the convoy will go.

    I completely agree. A pause is needed, while for decency and the public, after the recognition of the LPR and the DPR, respectively, by agreement with them and as necessary.
  24. valentina-makanalina
    valentina-makanalina 11 September 2014 12: 39
    +1
    You can’t wait. Soon, hostilities will begin again. Ukram no faith. The humanitarian disaster of New Russia is one of their weapons.
  25. surovts.valery
    surovts.valery 11 September 2014 12: 45
    0
    The previous convoy reached, although it was disproportionately more difficult than now. That showed the whole world the will of the Russian leadership. With this convoy will also, and all these official requests, permits, work against ukrokhunta. She will once again be in a pool of shit.
  26. family tree
    family tree 11 September 2014 12: 49
    +2
    It is necessary to call a mechanic with a policeman, since they do not answer for a long time. To draw up a protocol, but to break open the doors, suddenly everyone has already died there belay in government in this wassatwell, or sniffed something what
  27. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 11 September 2014 12: 49
    0
    They will purse again so much time until we ourselves again go to the addressee.
  28. GCD
    GCD 11 September 2014 12: 49
    +6
    Very strongly and correctly said!
    1. falikreutov
      falikreutov 11 September 2014 14: 17
      0
      It's a pity you can’t put a hundred pluses. Touched for the soul!
  29. jetfors_84
    jetfors_84 11 September 2014 12: 52
    0
    The border is beyond Novorossia. What Ukrainians then ask if they do not control it?
  30. Bear13
    Bear13 11 September 2014 12: 53
    +2
    Quote: valentina-makanalina
    You can’t wait. Soon, hostilities will begin again. Ukram no faith. The humanitarian disaster of New Russia is one of their weapons.


    I completely agree. While the leaders are chewing snot, the inhabitants of New Russia are starving.
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 11 September 2014 13: 09
      0
      Quote: Bear13
      While the leaders are chewing snot, the inhabitants of New Russia are starving.

      The Kremlin is trying to play by the rules that our "friends" have long ago hammered ...
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  32. UzRus
    UzRus 11 September 2014 13: 02
    +1
    Most likely, they will do as they did last time: they will wait, wait a little longer, and then the command “Forward!” Will come ... And another warning from the Russian Foreign Ministry about the inadmissibility of any actions in relation to the column.
  33. GCD
    GCD 11 September 2014 13: 13
    +3
    In short, Russia moves in and out all day long))) Well, Ukrainians and urinate)
  34. falikreutov
    falikreutov 11 September 2014 13: 47
    +1
    Spit on permission like last time! Move the convoy across the border and s.rat on Kuev with his permission.
  35. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 11 September 2014 13: 55
    +1
    Do not know how to play dill by the rules. They really see only their own benefit, and if it is not there, they must do so. And they change the rules of the game every minute.
  36. Vladimir-R
    Vladimir-R 11 September 2014 14: 22
    0
    How tired of all this licorice ... if you want to help, then help honestly and directly. By asking Kiev for permission, our rulers do not thereby recognize Novorossia as a fait accompli (unlike the People who had long recognized this ..) If there had been such leadership in the Great Patriotic War in the Kremlin, our grandfathers would have been driven to the Urals ..
  37. EvaFerrari
    EvaFerrari 11 September 2014 14: 30
    +1
    Why does Russia, the so-called "aggressor", provide assistance to both those refugees who crossed into our territory and those who are still in place? Where are the great-humane and super-democratic countries of the West? Okay, politicians - they have always been prostitutes, but where is the humanitarian aid collected by the inhabitants of Prague, Warsaw, etc. Why do ordinary people in our country think of collecting aid on their own initiative, but not in Europe?

    It is precisely for this reason that it will always be uncomfortable for us in the EU: our wide soul simply will not get along with their small veins.
    1. nomad
      nomad 11 September 2014 16: 36
      +2
      European Union women can sympathize, teach, and help only when there is a prospect that something will "break off" in the future in financial terms - then please. It is not for nothing that Poland is screaming, but to help the Ukrainians, something is in no hurry, but because nothing will "break off" for this help e
  38. Plamenvarna
    Plamenvarna 11 September 2014 16: 20
    +3
    This humanitarian convoy is the road of life that Putin is laying today not only will help people survive, not only help the defenders of New Russia win, not only help the war to fight from the West, but also help the brothers and sisters of the Russian people to remain brothers and sisters, like a Ukrainian girl who wrote this:

    Who are you, ? Take off the masks!
    http://politobzor.net/show-31275-vy-kto-suki-snimayte-maski.html

    To win the battle for the hearts of people is the main victory.
    God grant you a VICTORY!
    ---
    Hello from Bulgaria!
  39. nomad
    nomad 11 September 2014 16: 26
    +2
    Officially, neither the LPR nor the DPR are unrecognized republics - you will have to turn to Kiev! Last time the convoy came in - previously Kiev agreed, it was no longer important that time began to drag on the border. The arrangement was !!!
    1. MSA
      MSA 11 September 2014 17: 28
      +1
      And now there is an agreement on a truce in which one of the points states that humanitarian aid is passed through unhindered. On the one hand, even to some extent, it’s good that they ignore it, they just once again show the whole world their attitude to the created situation.