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Peskov: Poroshenko and Putin did not agree on a cease-fire in Ukraine

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Statements by the President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko that he (Poroshenko) agreed with President Vladimir Putin on a ceasefire in Ukraine, commented on the press secretary of the Russian president, Dmitry Peskov. According to Peskov, Poroshenko and Putin did not agree on a cease-fire in Ukraine for the simple reason that Russia is not a party to the conflict. A spokesman for the president of the Russian Federation noted that there had been a discussion on the possibilities for resolving the conflict. Reports about it RIA News.

Meanwhile, the leadership of the DPR said that they doubt that all Ukrainian units will be withdrawn from the conflict zone. The head of the Information Service of the Ministry of Defense of the DPR, Vladislav Brig, quotes news agencies:

Poroshenko punitive battalions do not control, not the fact that they obey his decision.


At the same time, Brig said that the DPR army would cease firing only if all punitive units were withdrawn from the territory of the republic.

Peskov: Poroshenko and Putin did not agree on a cease-fire in Ukraine


If we consider that several punitive battalions are controlled by oligarchic circles that are in a certain confrontation with the current ukropresident, then Vladislav Brig’s doubts related to Kiev’s lack of control over all punitive forces are quite reasonable.
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  1. Vend
    Vend 3 September 2014 13: 41
    +24
    Here is the answer to all the questions. Again there was an outburst of lies from Poroshenko.
    1. alex-s
      alex-s 3 September 2014 13: 45
      +10
      Meanwhile, the leadership of the DPR stated that they doubt that all Ukrainian units will be withdrawn from the conflict zone.

      Who did not hide - we are not to blame! angry
      1. DMB-88
        DMB-88 3 September 2014 13: 48
        +12
        I don’t want to offend anyone, but I also can’t keep silent. It is painful to look at the photo where a little girl in an embroidered shirt is standing, with a wreath on her head and holding a poster that says “Ukraine is not evil!” ... This is blasphemy towards the children of the Lugansk and Donetsk republics.
        Do not break Ukraine ?! And at what cost is this unlawfulness achieved ??? At the cost of the lives of people living in the Donbass, including children ???
        You know, much more convincing photographs of children, where it says "Save the children of Donbass!"
        1. Момент
          Момент 3 September 2014 13: 52
          +9
          "Peacemaker" is fucking. And around him there is such a negative, then people fall, then the Ukrainian flag is ripped off for the holiday of independence.
          1. Russian Alex
            Russian Alex 3 September 2014 17: 42
            0
            The powder persuaded Putin to ask him for a ceasefire. It didn’t work, but he stated as he intended. there is no one to fight for him, the fire ceased by itself. The peacemaker of horseradish (it became very scary for the PIG)
    2. volot-voin
      volot-voin 3 September 2014 13: 46
      +6
      Quote: Wend
      Here is the answer to all the questions. Again there was an outburst of lies from Poroshenko.

      Poroshenko wants to suddenly come out so handsome in a white dress coat, "yellow and fluffy." He wants to look like a peacemaker, despite the fact that he himself is bloody up to the elbow and knee-deep.
      And Novorossia to imagine giving up the outstretched hand of the world.
      I hope there will be a tribunal to him. And zealous dill are indignant, maybe they will fry it themselves.
      1. hrapon
        hrapon 3 September 2014 13: 56
        +1
        Quote: volot-voin
        Quote: Wend
        Here is the answer to all the questions. Again there was an outburst of lies from Poroshenko.

        Poroshenko wants to suddenly come out so handsome in a white dress coat, "yellow and fluffy." He wants to look like a peacemaker, despite the fact that he himself is bloody up to the elbow and knee-deep.
        And Novorossia to imagine giving up the outstretched hand of the world.
        I hope there will be a tribunal to him. And zealous dill are indignant, maybe they will fry it themselves.


        Yes, this is another farce to appear as a "peacemaker" before the NATO summit. This is not for internal use.
      2. Sid.74
        Sid.74 3 September 2014 13: 56
        +7
        Putin has already hesitated to repeat that the war in the Southeast is a question of Kiev, Donetsk and Lugansk, and Russia has nothing to do with it!repeat
        Listen to what Brain says!
      3. mpa945
        mpa945 3 September 2014 13: 59
        +5
        There will be nothing.
        Even just reallyPetya will not be able to stop the ATO. Moreover, without the withdrawal of the level guard from New Russia, the Donetsk residents will no longer allow it. (Minimum program)
        Petya is a suicide bomber at the negotiating table. Its at once - two svidomo crash. All battalions of the National Guard will rush to Kiev. Donetsk is too tough for them. And Kiev will be taken easily. And the maras will not help: they are not fools to fight for Petya ... And to "take away" on a gray Boeing - do they need it?
        It follows from this that the "negotiations" are a set-up in order to preserve the remnants of the troops, wait for the NATO summit, what other opportunity ... And Benya also has his own cards.
        So drive the junta, at least from the territory of New Russia and will not relax.
    3. MEDVED
      MEDVED 3 September 2014 13: 47
      +3
      So he wanted to show that he was at war with Russia ...
    4. subbtin.725
      subbtin.725 3 September 2014 13: 47
      +5
      for the simple reason that Russia is not a party to the conflict.


      Short and clear. We were all right in saying that Parasyonkov’s announcement is HAT.... peacemaker, fucking.
      1. avg
        avg 3 September 2014 13: 56
        +1
        Poroshenko and Putin did not agree on a ceasefire in Ukraine for the simple reason that Russia is not a party to the conflict.

        Yes, to drive these fraudulent Facebook ukrovoyok in the tail and in the mane, until they ask me sorry.
    5. vorobey
      vorobey 3 September 2014 13: 50
      +4
      Quote: Wend
      Here is the answer to all the questions. Again there was an outburst of lies from Poroshenko.



      did you doubt Putin said earlier .. that Novorossia and Ukraine should negotiate.

      And he promised to take Kiev in two weeks repeat well this one .. Baroso said so ... repeat
      1. Vend
        Vend 3 September 2014 14: 32
        0
        Quote: vorobey
        Quote: Wend
        Here is the answer to all the questions. Again there was an outburst of lies from Poroshenko.

        did you doubt Putin said earlier .. that Novorossia and Ukraine should negotiate.
        And he promised to take Kiev in two weeks repeat well this one .. Baroso said so ... repeat

        Doubted? And did I say something like that? And Putin for your information did not say anything like that, the phrase is taken out of context, and you repeat the words of Berouz.
    6. DMB-88
      DMB-88 3 September 2014 13: 51
      +2
      In the shadow of great leaders, even mediocrity can find a place for itself under the sun!
    7. Ariets
      Ariets 3 September 2014 13: 55
      +2
      Parashenko has a clear upset stomach. He has diarrhea in a garden that he has never looked after. In durable, as is customary for goats caught in someone else's garden.
    8. Zhekson
      Zhekson 3 September 2014 15: 32
      +1
      there, on the emblem of the Donbass acorn, or what ??? then it becomes clear the association of Ukraine with which animal it is.
  2. andranick
    andranick 3 September 2014 13: 43
    +8
    Yeah, "agreed". It was not for nothing that Putin after the meeting looked cheerful, and Poroshenko, sullen, as if stung in a dupa. Well, Ukraine is a geyrope. wink
    1. Roman1970
      Roman1970 3 September 2014 13: 49
      +1
      Quote: andranick
      Yeah, "agreed". It was not for nothing that Putin after the meeting looked cheerful, and Poroshenko, sullen, as if stung in a dupa. Well, Ukraine is a geyrope. wink

      So what ... Putin compared to Poroshenko now, as an oligarch compared to the unemployed ...
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    3. mamont5
      mamont5 3 September 2014 13: 50
      +2
      Quote: andranick
      Yeah, "agreed". It was not for nothing that Putin after the meeting looked cheerful, and Poroshenko, sullen, as if stung in a dupa. Well, Ukraine is a geyrope. wink


      So right Peskov said that Russia is not a party to the conflict and cannot agree on a ceasefire. There was a conversation that Porosenko was looking for a way to a ceasefire, and the Ukrainians again misinterpreted everything.
    4. subbtin.725
      subbtin.725 3 September 2014 13: 51
      0

      At the same time, Brig said that the DPR army would cease firing only if all punitive units were withdrawn from the territory of the republic.


      And no one else expected. Drive away Svidomo, to Galicia a filthy broom. Good luck to you guys, this is not an easy matter, because the Yankees, with their provocations, are unlikely to calm down.
    5. MilesAth
      MilesAth 3 September 2014 14: 00
      +2
      Yes, Petruha's business is so-so. Lost the war, "friends" are dumping.
      And then Yanukovych appealed to the EU court, asking to declare his removal illegal. The February 21, 2014 agreement recalls - they say, they themselves signed, gentlemen, Europeans
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 3 September 2014 14: 24
        0
        Yanukovych in the same dock with Poroshenko should be planted. His guilt in this bloody nightmare is also a lot.
  3. P-38
    P-38 3 September 2014 13: 43
    +3
    Over and over again.
  4. andrei332809
    andrei332809 3 September 2014 13: 44
    +3
    At the same time, Brig said that the DPR army would cease firing only if all punitive units were withdrawn from the territory of the republic.

    and preferably in pshekia.
  5. major071
    major071 3 September 2014 13: 44
    +10
    he (Poroshenko) agreed with President Vladimir Putin on a ceasefire in Ukraine,

    To the campaign, Piglet rehearsed a conversation with the GDP for so long that he himself believed in his nonsense. fool Correctly said Novorossi - either - or ... soldier
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 3 September 2014 14: 04
      +1
      Quote: major071
      Campaign, Piglet rehearsed for so long

      and what’s the parasite about ceasefire goofing? I can’t find this news on the dill sites, but I won’t find the details on ours
  6. Stiletto
    Stiletto 3 September 2014 13: 45
    +4
    Gunpowder spun around, like in a frying pan. The owners leaked it - to judge soon, and - to hang a little. They hang their own, like a dog, which is typical. There, however, is dear to him. they wanted lustration, but castration! am
  7. MAXUZZZ
    MAXUZZZ 3 September 2014 13: 45
    +4
    ParashEnko is trying hard to drag Russia as a participant in the war, but it wasn’t
  8. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 3 September 2014 13: 46
    +2
    Poroshenko, in every possible way, is trying to show that Russia is participating in the conflict. It doesn’t work out very well, it turns out badly.
  9. ALABAY45
    ALABAY45 3 September 2014 13: 46
    +4
    "he (Poroshenko) agreed with President Vladimir Putin on a ceasefire in Ukraine"
    And he agreed with Obama ?! On our part, everything is correct. Russia is not a party to the conflict! Again, an attempt by foolish politicians to blame the Russian Federation. Why should Russia cease fire in Ukraine if it (the Russian Federation) did not open it there ?!
  10. Akhtuba73
    Akhtuba73 3 September 2014 13: 46
    +5
    You don’t have to have seven spots on your forehead to understand - NO ONE Poroshenko WILL GIVE ANY guarantees !!!
    1. doctor
      doctor 3 September 2014 14: 06
      0
      The dead do not need guarantees. He is already guaranteed to be dead. laughing
      1. Akhtuba73
        Akhtuba73 3 September 2014 16: 42
        0
        Quote: Doctor
        guaranteed dead.

        we are all mortal ... and some, even suddenly
  11. Listen grandfather
    Listen grandfather 3 September 2014 13: 47
    0
    While the procedures and chimes, the militia should take everything that is taken - bargaining is better on the market day
  12. MilesAth
    MilesAth 3 September 2014 13: 47
    +1
    Poroshenko time to stop giving out wishful thinking.
    That's it, Petro, tick fast. In Rostov-on-Don, do not even poke your nose, Russia will not accept you
    1. Stiletto
      Stiletto 3 September 2014 13: 57
      0
      Quote: MilesAth
      That's it, Petro, tick fast. In Rostov-on-Don, do not even poke your nose, Russia will not accept you


      Accept, accept, even as accept! This is where the reptile is to judge, not in the corrupt The Hague! am
  13. fridge
    fridge 3 September 2014 13: 47
    +8
    In the words of G.K.Zhukov, only unconditional surrender and period. stop The trial of war criminals.
  14. Tuzik
    Tuzik 3 September 2014 13: 49
    +2
    Victory Day!
    1. volot-voin
      volot-voin 3 September 2014 13: 53
      +1
      Quote: Tuzik
      Victory Day!

      Hanging of criminals and the victory parade on Khreshchatyk, along which columns of punishers will pass, throwing banners and "dill" at the feet of the winners.
  15. Loner_53
    Loner_53 3 September 2014 13: 49
    0
    How can they agree? Think yourself comrades! Where and who is Putin! And where and who is the parasenko? wink
  16. comm
    comm 3 September 2014 13: 49
    +1
    Clear. It was Poroshenkin stuffing for domestic use.

    Fighting, apparently, will continue as previously presented.
  17. Starmos
    Starmos 3 September 2014 13: 50
    +2
    Is the little parasite lost in space and time? Either this is another provocation, or he is for sure - cuckoo ... It looks like psychotronic emitters were installed in the "non-stale" room ... Or another batch of "vigorous" drugs was delivered on yesterday's Boeing ...
  18. Roshchin
    Roshchin 3 September 2014 13: 51
    +1
    Shoot at the dill soon, as in that joke there will be nothing and no one. So the ceasefire will be automatic. The junta has a hope that while the negotiations drag on, they will arm their Euro-American "brothers" to start new hostilities. “But this is unlikely,” as comrade Sukhov from The White Sun of the Desert said. What the junta needs to end is to lie to the Ukrainian people and exterminate them. It's time to run away under the wing of their originators.
    1. tracker
      tracker 3 September 2014 14: 01
      0
      Just the ammunition, then dill has a lot, the fighters really are not enough. Now heavy equipment is being intensively removed from conservation, new battalions of the National Guard are being recruited and they do not rush right at the Donbass at the beginning of the ATO, but are trained at training grounds. Experience unfortunately comes to dill. Time goes by days for the complete cleansing of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions from ukrovsk. In short, as I understand it, the leadership of the militia needs to throw maximum effort into this purification. Listen to advice, but do it your own way.
  19. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 3 September 2014 13: 51
    +3
    He said in a previous topic that PARAShenko is still that ...


    Forward, just ahead to liberate Ukraine from the fascist invaders !!!
  20. tracker
    tracker 3 September 2014 13: 51
    +1
    A very dangerous moment has come. The troops of Novorossiya urgently need to take Mariupol. I listened to the radio "business fm" there, some analysts emphasize that the West is considering the introduction of new sanctions if Putin allows the militia to take Mariupol. The capture is a very significant thing, without Mariupol there are no real borders of the Donetsk region, respectively, and there is no DPR within its borders. Reminds of the first Chechen war, only the militants were clamped down, the order for negotiations.
  21. ded100
    ded100 3 September 2014 13: 52
    +1
    The battalions will return back and the whistle will then be torn off for such a leadership !! good
  22. Watson J.
    Watson J. 3 September 2014 13: 52
    +2
    (Just a burning desire.)
    Fire ceases on the territory of the DPR and LPR. Two days for the withdrawal of troops of the National Guard from the whole territory. It would be logical. Who did not have time - late. And immediately strengthen the border. But then ... Perhaps the inhabitants of neighboring regions, having seen what is possible, will also begin a guerrilla war?

    Although an even more burning desire is to clear the territory of Ukraine from the Nazis.
  23. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 3 September 2014 13: 52
    +2
    Petrusha does not dry up, he already sees Putin in the corner of the room, talks to him ... Squirrel request
  24. Pro100Igor
    Pro100Igor 3 September 2014 13: 54
    +4
    Parsley just can't talk.
  25. saag
    saag 3 September 2014 13: 56
    0
    "Poroshenko and Putin did not agree on a ceasefire in Ukraine"

    Of course, Poroshenko needs to utilize all these battalions, so not until the ceasefire.
  26. Makarov
    Makarov 3 September 2014 13: 57
    0
    An American air base will appear in Estonia bordering with Russia ... sorry for offtopic
  27. bmv04636
    bmv04636 3 September 2014 13: 57
    0
    they all want to cover us up. If you follow the logic of Paroshenko, then Psaki can agree with ISIS on the release of the captured cities in Iraq.
  28. surovts.valery
    surovts.valery 3 September 2014 13: 58
    0
    Meanwhile, the leadership of the DPR stated that they doubt that all Ukrainian units will be withdrawn from the conflict zone.

    And this is the most key requirement of the militia: the withdrawal of all ukrovoysk from the territory of the DPR and LPR. And the rest is from the evil one. Poros is trying to save face (what face is already there - snout). All that is left of ukrovoy on the territory of the DPR and LPR is in fact no longer controlled by the junta, due to demoralization, disorganization and loss of control, and is seeking or ousted by the army of Novorossiya. The militia "goes to meet" the junta: clause 1 of the terms of future negotiations (withdrawal of all ukrovoysk from Donbass) will no longer have to be fulfilled by Kiev.
  29. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 3 September 2014 13: 58
    +2
    Every day of the war is a senseless sacrifice. Sooner or later, Kiev will still have to sit down at the negotiating table, which means it will recognize Novorossia as a subject of negotiations. Only now Kiev cannot independently make such a decision - and the United States cannot give the "go-ahead" due to the fact that this would be a failure of their policy on the European continent.
    Of course, they are frightened by the onslaught of New Russia, because of which they can only offer a temporary ceasefire option for regrouping the junta's forces and pumping it with advisers, mercenaries and weapons. This will continue indefinitely, until the rest of the Ukrainians rise up against the junta - this will be a signal to the United States that it is time to get out of the way, as in the story with Iraq and Afghanistan.
  30. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 3 September 2014 14: 07
    0
    Poroshenko is clearly drained ..
    The alliance generals, at a crisis meeting on the situation in the army late last week, together with the visiting President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko, together they painted a grim picture: “Militarily, Kiev has already played out the conflict,” said a senior NATO general. The solution, one "to recall their people alive from the ticks of the Russians."
    The situation described behind closed doors was much more dangerous than the one published by NATO in the middle of the week.
    From the perspective of NATO analysts, the invasion of Russian troops is no longer required. The second stage is to exclude them from the scope of Kiev. Already infiltrated units to consider. “Poroshenko cannot dictate where his people can move,” said a NATO spokesman: “in a war this is called victory.”
    www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/ukraine-nato-haelt-niederlage-fuer-kiew-fuer-sich
    er-a-989308.html

    But it’s too early to rejoice, still thinking ahead ..
  31. tracker
    tracker 3 September 2014 14: 07
    +1
    No matter how seditious it sounds, Russia is interested in supporting Gunpowder as president. Initially, of course, it is necessary to consolidate the borders of New Russia. After the winter, Poroshenko must deal with all the problems himself, only then will the Ukrainians understand on their own skin what a "tse europa" is and who their real enemy is.
  32. WETER
    WETER 3 September 2014 14: 09
    0
    In the days have come! You can’t talk to anyone on the phone! Not only will everyone be disheveled, but the ducks will also be changed.
  33. Yuriy Nikolayevich
    Yuriy Nikolayevich 3 September 2014 14: 09
    +1
    The site of Poroshenko edited a message on a truce
    We did not have time to rejoice at the ceasefire news in Ukraine, which appeared earlier on Wednesday, September 3, on the site of the president of the independent Petro Poroshenko, as the press service of the Ukrainian leader edited the ceasefire message.
    So, just an hour ago, on the Poroshenko’s website it was said about “a permanent ceasefire in the Donbass,” but now the word “permanent” has been removed from the message.
    “The result of a conversation (between Russian President Vladimir Putin and the Ukrainian leader) was ceasefire agreement in the Donbass. Mutual understanding was reached regarding the steps that will contribute to the establishment of peace, ”the edited message looks like.
    http://www.kp.ru/online/news/1834400
    And so the ceasefire message looked earlier
  34. pahom54
    pahom54 3 September 2014 14: 15
    +1
    With punitive battalions, the issue should be resolved cardinally - not to take prisoners, not to release from the boilers. No negotiations, because there is really no one with whom. Or yopnut on the basis of ideology and hatred of the Russian, or corrupt - for the loot. They shouldn't live like that. Their "reward" is only death.
  35. Megavolt
    Megavolt 3 September 2014 14: 29
    0
    For the umpteenth time, Waltzman wishes out for reality.
  36. andranick
    andranick 3 September 2014 14: 31
    0
    KIEV, September 3 - RIA News.
    Press service of the President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko clarified his message, circulated after his telephone conversation with Russian leader Vladimir Putin, about the decision on a ceasefire in Donbas, replacing the words "an agreement on constant ceasefire "to" an agreement termination mode fire. "

    Like Vott ... And not at all a permanent ceasefire, but simply a cease. I suppose he wants to mobilize again and wants to regroup, such as a timeout, and then - for the old ....
    Although .. I do not understand the terms "permanent ceasefire" and "ceasefire" ... The fire can either be stopped, or not stopped, or stopped with some intensity (faster, slower). If this is a regime, well, then something is still understandable ... But to stop it constantly is yes, in a hooah: stop it on Mondays, resume on Tuesdays ...
  37. gunter_laux
    gunter_laux 3 September 2014 14: 43
    0
    Quote: subbtin.725
    . Drive away Svidomo, to Galicia filthy broom


    And there (in Galicia), ram up so tightly and throw in the direction of Warsaw!
  38. zsdk
    zsdk 3 September 2014 15: 47
    0
    There is nothing to talk about with this fascist surrounded by idiots. In general, you need to talk with the shepherd, and not his sheep.
  39. Papania
    Papania 3 September 2014 16: 06
    0
    She’s a bucket, what jobs don’t hang her .......