On the Soldiers' Mothers Committee. Head for the torso is not responsible?

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The sixth day went from the moment when the information and analytical portal "Military Review" sent a request addressed to the chairman of the Kostroma regional branch of the All-Russian public organization "Committee of Soldiers' Mothers of Russia" (KSMR) Nina Terekhova. The request was connected with publications in the Russian press, which were particularly liberal in their views, on the meeting held by the representative of the Kostroma branch of the KMSR, Ms. Khokhlova, with the deputy commander of the 98 airborne troops, Colonel Hotulev. The KSMR then reported that Colonel Hotulev allegedly spoke of the zamkomdiv about the Russian soldiers killed and injured on the territory of Ukraine. In the published material the Kostroma branch of the CMR did not attach any photo and video evidence presented at the meeting. The request of the “Military Review” by its attention to the overly busy staff of the KSMR of Kostroma ignored, which gives a significant reason to doubt the veracity of materials published on behalf of the Committee of Soldiers' Mothers.

In principle, it is not surprising to ignore the request, as well as the publication is not confirmed by any evidence of information by representatives of the CCMR. The fact is that the committee’s activity is clearly not aimed at cooperation with those mass media that are not part of the “right” and “democratic” circle. If we consider that the Committee of Soldiers' Mothers last year was entered in the register of “foreign agents” - NPOs that receive grants from abroad, then there is a complete feeling that the committee works only according to the scenario that was written by its main sponsors.

One of the proofs of the financing of the Soldiers ’Mothers Committee by the National Endowment for Democracy (founder of the US Congress):

On the Soldiers' Mothers Committee. Head for the torso is not responsible?


Other evidence from the NED site (USA):


I would like to be mistaken that CUSM cares more about respecting the interests of the US Congress, rather than about the interests of the Russian military, but it turns out that NGOs working with funds from foreign organizations and government institutions, and loving to delve into Russian politics, are committed to the interests of their financiers and far from the interests of Russia.

Apparently, story with another ascent of the fact that Russian “soldier’s mothers” were financed by American “relatives”, this led to a certain change in rhetoric by the leaders of the KCM of Russia. If a few days ago, the Russian ultra-liberal press replicated KISM's statements that hundreds of killed and wounded paratroopers were brought to Russia from the “Square” territory, and that the cemeteries are literally overflowing with the graves of Russian soldiers killed in the Donbas, now the chairman of the Committee of Soldiers Mothers Ms. Salikhovskaya gives completely different comments in the press. In an interview RIA News Flera Salikhovskaya already declares that the Russian Ministry of Defense and other state authorities do not send servicemen to Ukraine.
Quote from an interview with Salikhovskaya:

To say that the Ministry of Defense sends someone, do not. Nobody sent anyone anywhere. I am a member of the public council of the Ministry of Defense, we attend meetings, there was no official order. Can fight - I do not deny - these are voluntary people. No one — neither the state, nor the ministry of defense — has anyone sent there.


Incidentally, this was after Mrs. Salikhovskaya’s subordinates of the CMRM called upon the wives and mothers of Russian servicemen to contact military units in order to find out the truth about the locations of their husbands and sons ... Here is one of such appeals from the sentimental Saratovsky regional branch of the Committee of Soldiers' Mothers Lydia Sviridova:



It turns out that either the leader of the Soldiers' Mothers Committee is not responsible for the words, actions and publications of his subordinates, or it is a banal attempt to evade responsibility for disseminating information without any objective evidence, that is, for disseminating disinformation.
Mrs. Salikhovskaya claims that officers dismissed during the times of Serdyuk reform can fight in Ukraine, ethnic Ukrainians who left their service in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation themselves (or even went on vacation ...) and went to Ukraine to take part in hostilities.

Flera Salikhovskaya:

Many of our commanders are Ukrainians, we will talk. During Soviet times, they studied at academies, studied military affairs, and, of course, they remained who served where. They are our Russian comrades, but their birthplace is Ukraine, where they have parents and relatives. Of course, if he was on vacation - this is his right, he can go to Ukraine.


And here, you understand, by “coincidence” in social networks and all the same ultra-liberal media, there are posts and articles that allegedly put pressure on hundreds of Russian servicemen by commanders. These servicemen are allegedly forced to file reports on dismissal, and after the authorities have signed these reports, the military forcibly direct them to fight in Ukraine. In such sentimental stories flashed titles and surnames. These posts and articles seem to "develop" the thoughts of the chairman of the CSMR: they say, not just former servicemen of the Russian army are going into battle, but "artificially" former ones - those who were forced to become former "at gunpoint".

Statements that Putin sent troops to Ukraine about the deaths and injuries of numerous Russian paratroopers in the Donbas are akin to the recently made statement by the head of the Polish government Tusk, who replaced Herman van Rompuy as head of the European Council. Donald Tusk said “wonderful” in all respects:

Polish intelligence has information about the presence of Russian troops in Ukraine. There is very little such information, but I do not doubt their authenticity.


At the same time, Tusk, as well as the CMRM, as well as Kiev, like the other "friends of Russia", of course, did not provide the information itself. What for? The main thing is to have a “high ranking” stuffing with the aim of a local victory in the information war. If Ukrainian punitive detachments suffer crushing defeats on real fronts, then the West needs to get victories at least on the information front. But just as in the case of publications on behalf of the Committee of Soldiers' Mothers about the hundreds of killed Russian paratroopers, such “victories” are more than doubtful.
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  1. +13
    2 September 2014 09: 22
    Q.E.D!
    1. +21
      2 September 2014 09: 38
      Yeah. It’s sad to realize that such a public and, on the one hand, the right organization exists on the money of the US Congress! I couldn’t even think of such a thing! And as they fill in about the paratroopers, the U.K.R. we are simply excited to quote them.
      1. +26
        2 September 2014 11: 24
        Quote: Veles75
        I couldn’t even think of such a thing!

        Unfortunately, I could not help but think. They worked very effectively to destroy the SA. The chicken coop, which could not raise normal sons and rushed to protect the only nerds, will not think of anything but bribes to anyone. This is not the first time I have written here that SM is an American and very dangerous project. Because "who benefits." And now the facts are on the table. It is necessary to cover this very important aspect of their activities more widely. Pin-dosam is not the first time to trash the sacred. And these pod-pin-dosnyh mothers must in the end be publicly denounced as traitors and enemies of Russian soldiers. By the way, is there any information about who these aunts gave birth to, and where they ... serve?
        1. +9
          2 September 2014 11: 36
          Quote: 97110
          Chicken coop

          Here is the exact definition
          huge plus!
          1. +12
            2 September 2014 12: 14
            But Tusk - in general, a bitch - ours was pushing him to the presidency in Poland after their previous preznik near Smolensk landed, he behaved well for a couple of years, and now he has split up - he would be sorry to invite him to Smolensk too.
            1. +3
              2 September 2014 12: 57
              Quote: zeleznijdorojnik
              birch trees are just a pity.
              Birches ??? Why pity them, it's almost a British tree, but Russian trees are "Poplars" ... wassat
          2. +2
            2 September 2014 21: 59
            committee of not giving birth to mothers!
            in vain the old woman is waiting for her son home, because she did not give birth to a son! (c)
        2. Makosha
          +3
          2 September 2014 20: 20
          Quote: 97110
          By the way, is there no information who these aunts gave birth to, and where they ... serve?

          Is it possible to request this information officially, in the same way, through VO, as from an official? With the request for child birth certificates and membership records in the CMC, about elections to the governing body (as they call it there)? It would be interesting to see the reaction. And then again this matter is "illuminated", and harder.
          In general, it would be nice to also suggest that the deputy commander of the 98th Airborne Forces, Colonel Khotulev, sue these "colonists" for libel.
          CSKA something silent?
        3. +2
          2 September 2014 20: 31
          Quote: 97110
          By the way, is there no information who these aunts gave birth to, and where they ... serve?

          Most likely one field is a berry from Novodvorskaya.
        4. +3
          2 September 2014 21: 59
          These "chickens" have forgotten that the army is not a kitchen, and the interests of the state may even differ very much from the interests of another mother - a brood hen. And it is not at all their business - where the country will send the soldiers, and where not. And in this situation, the actions of the "committee" fall under the criminal article "treason to the Motherland." Where does the prosecutor's office look?
      2. +10
        2 September 2014 11: 43
        Quote: Veles75
        Yeah. It’s sad to realize that such a public and, on the one hand, the right organization exists on the money of the US Congress! I couldn’t even think of such a thing! And as they fill in about the paratroopers, the U.K.R. we are simply excited to quote them.

        Plus article. Such an organization is of course needed, but not with US money. Let them fight with lawlessness in the army, with theft, with the humiliation of military personnel, crime in the army, with the servicing of general dachas by soldiers, you never know the real ulcers in the army, but in no case do not touch state interests, and do not play into the hands of the enemy. An undeclared war is going on against the Russian Federation. Someone somewhere is fighting for the interests of the motherland and even dies (I do not think that conscripts), so you can’t shoot your heroes in the back.
        1. +13
          2 September 2014 12: 06
          Such an organization is of course needed, but not with US money. Let them fight with lawlessness in the army, with theft, with the humiliation of military personnel, crime in the army, with the servicing of general dachas by soldiers, you never know the real ulcers in the army, but in no case do not touch state interests, and do not play into the hands of the enemy. An undeclared war is going on against the Russian Federation. Someone somewhere is fighting for the interests of the motherland and even dies (I do not think that conscripts), so you can’t shoot your heroes in the back.

          In the form in which it exists now, this organization is very harmful and dangerous.
          And instead of mummies in this kind of public associations there should be fathers !!!!!!
          1. +14
            2 September 2014 12: 26
            Kahlan Amnell ... totally agree with you! A father should raise a son, not a mommy !!! What they put into the son and got it, because what happens? If a son was raised as a peasant from an early age, then he will be a peasant not only in the army, but also in life, and if he was spoon-fed until the age of 18, so he will be a schnik all his life. From my own experience I know that mama's sons make terry grandfathers. The committee of soldiers' mothers in any performance is an unnecessary and harmful thing, all relations in the army depend entirely on the commander and only on him!
            1. +4
              2 September 2014 12: 44
              I agree 100% - to disperse this committee of "mothers", they only interfere with normal work, and create a committee of soldiers' fathers. I know from myself - it's easier to talk to your father, and not to a "hysterical" mother.
              1. +3
                2 September 2014 16: 09
                This CIA abscess has long to be eliminated ...
                1. at a public chamber under the President of the Russian Federation, create a subcommittee on work in the Armed Forces .... to involve mothers whose sons in the army are ..
                2. Under the Ministry of Defense (educational work management), create a server and network covering all parts of the Russian Armed Forces, so that soldiers can communicate with their mothers and their loved ones .. and there is no market for the whole world .. Using this network, access to any official position face of the state ...
            2. +2
              2 September 2014 13: 03
              Kahlan Amnell ... totally agree with you! A father should raise a son, not a mommy !!! What they put into the son and got it, because what happens? If a son was raised as a peasant from an early age, then he will be a peasant not only in the army, but also in life, and if he was spoon-fed until the age of 18, so he will be a schnik all his life. From my own experience I know that mama's sons make terry grandfathers. The committee of soldiers' mothers in any performance is an unnecessary and harmful thing, all relations in the army depend entirely on the commander and only on him!

              Well, are you up to date on the number of divorces and single mothers?
              I'm glad you are a worthy father, but how much? and how many drinkers, careless and so on.
              We must first start with them ..
              1. +8
                2 September 2014 13: 31
                stas57 ... Stas, analyzing my life, my service happening around me, I came to the conclusion ... all this cat-hatred began in the distant 70 of the last century, when the fathers withdrew from the upbringing of their children and mothers did it. From where did drinkers, careless, etc. appear? It is from those children who were allowed to do everything, who should not be beaten because it was not pedagogical, for which mothers decided everything .. what to dress with, who to be friends with, where to go, where to act and the individuals you listed above grow up. A person is not adapted to life, he is lost in it, as a result, he begins to hide behind a bottle, for drugs, for his mother, of course, he can be re-educated, but the process of re-education often goes pretty harsh. In my practice, there have been such cases, I don’t want to download the guy for the most, while for every victory over yourself you note him with gratitude and OH MIRACLE ... the guy begins to straighten his shoulders, starts to be proud of himself, as a result, he becomes a man. But again, this process is long and painful.
              2. snz
                snz
                +1
                2 September 2014 18: 56
                Right. I’m betting that the leaders of the Committee of Soldiers' Mothers have successfully ousted their sons from the army. But the snot in the media to smudge what a terrible hazing and inhuman education of Russian soldiers - this is really good. Is there any legal force (such as an article of the Criminal Code on defamation) to combat such organizations
                1. Makosha
                  +1
                  2 September 2014 20: 58
                  Quote: snz
                  Is there any legal force (such as an article of the Criminal Code on defamation) to combat such organizations

                  There is an article, but it can only be submitted to them either by the slanderous person (the victim, the plaintiff, so to speak) or another organization with a status not lower than them, i.e., state or public.
                  It is pointless to submit to a private individual - they will accept the application (they cannot accept it), but they will refuse the claim - there is no corpus delicti against a private individual who is not connected with this story, unless the private individual is from the commanding staff of those regiments.
                  Here VO, as a public organization, and even the "press", could submit an application.
              3. Makosha
                0
                2 September 2014 20: 41
                Quote: Stas57
                Well, are you up to date on the number of divorces and single mothers?

                There is nothing worse than a single mom’s son. A woman cannot alone raise a son by a man. One is without the involvement of an uncle, grandfather, stepfather. In the fetus of such an upbringing, all reactions will be of a female type. But he does not see men in everyday life, how can he know what is considered a normal male reaction, and how should he react to anything?
                The only example of "getting" a more or less adequate guy from "fatherlessness" is the son of my friend. So, at the age of 9, he himself "attached" himself to a sports boarding school, and then to a military school. And the mother was informed only after the fact. I simply informed, did not ask permission. But, again, there was a male influence - before that he spent all the holidays with his grandfather.
      3. bda
        bda
        +8
        2 September 2014 11: 58
        Wels75
        ... it’s sad to realize that such a public and, on the one hand, the right organization exists on the money of the US Congress!

        This committee initially flourished as a tool for the demoralization and corruption of our army. The scale of the structure (from the capitals to the very outskirts) suggests that all this was created under a single leadership and using a huge resource. Its activists have long since turned from real "mothers" into functionaries paid for by foreign and local liberal customers.
        From my own experience, and from the experience of many other familiar officers, one can judge that even at the stage of their "revolutionary-romantic" inception (when there were many "free" and "ideological" activists among the activists), the overwhelming majority of such women had a classic hysterical type of psychological constitution that makes it easy to switch to screeching without even realizing its cause.
      4. +3
        2 September 2014 12: 36
        Quote: Veles75
        public and, on the one hand, the right organization,
        A miserable parody of the Sisters of Mercy from the First World War. Tasks perverted utterly. If you want to help your son, collect humanitarian aid and send it to our boys. Or take out the ducks in the hospital for the wounded. During the war, packages to the front were collected, but these can only be bent in front of cameras, and even with the money of enemies. Ugh!
        1. snz
          snz
          0
          2 September 2014 19: 00
          for these snot in front of the cameras they pay in currency, they sold their homeland and conscience to a dirty piece of paper.
      5. +1
        2 September 2014 13: 44
        How many have served since the beginning of the 90s as much and have not seen this organization, it was right long time ago to close it .....
    2. +22
      2 September 2014 09: 48
      Here is a story about two "interesting personalities"
      1. +1
        2 September 2014 10: 04
        Shary molorik jokes with these
        1. +3
          2 September 2014 10: 53
          The so-called committee, an ordinary NPO with foreign capital (in agent)
          Shary molorik jokes with these
          Yes, Anatoly presses the press all the time, it’s a pity to share his thoughts about the anti-terrorist operation, who should I write to, so to him, yet he understands something He studied at the Kiev Higher Tank Engineering School (Department of Regimental Intelligence)not a couple of tymchuk and other magazine magazines. Here is the last one - http://sharij.net/1291/ , although some points are controversial, it is written intelligently.
        2. +1
          2 September 2014 10: 56
          Quote: zona72
          shary molorik


          Yes, FIG knows - is it a little milk? All the same, Shary constantly says that he is a patriot of Ukraine and loves his country, while constantly looking for Ukrainian fakes. We would have definitely recorded it in the fifth column and put it on a par with Makar.
      2. +5
        2 September 2014 10: 39
        I have always said that KSM is a hostile organization. Thank God, they considered it.
      3. +2
        2 September 2014 14: 31
        A moment of humor:
        - How to remove a heifer in 60 seconds.

    3. +9
      2 September 2014 09: 52
      KSMR turned into an organization hostile to the people of Russia, working together with the fifth column against Russian statehood. Apparently, the time has come to think about the liquidation of this organization, which discredits the very concept of soldiers' mothers.
      1. Nikolav
        +6
        2 September 2014 10: 11
        KSMR jumps out of pantyhose. Here is what Tymchuk writes in his Information Resistance today:

        Two thousand Russian paratroopers lost their way in Ukraine ended up in hell instead of "exercises"
        02.09.2014 - 07: 48

        "For the invasion of Ukraine, about 2 thousand regular Russian military personnel, mainly paratroopers, have already paid with their lives," Oleksandr Danilyuk, adviser to the Ukrainian Defense Minister, wrote on his Facebook.

        According to the Committee of Soldiers' Mothers of Russia, Putin sent 15 Russian troops to Ukraine. "

        Does the KISC have a source of information in the Ministry of Defense?
        1. +5
          2 September 2014 11: 55
          Quote: Nicholas
          According to the Committee of Soldiers' Mothers of Russia, Putin sent 15 Russian troops to Ukraine.


          Well, so modest. Stun so stun - Putin sent to Ukraine the entire composition of the Defense Ministry with Shoigu at the head, but at the border the valiant Ukrainian army stopped them, defeated them and is now loading corpses into refrigerators for shipment to KSM. bully
        2. bda
          bda
          +4
          2 September 2014 12: 04
          Nikolav
          According to the Committee of Soldiers' Mothers of Russia, Putin sent 15 Russian troops to Ukraine. "

          Does the KISC have a source of information in the Ministry of Defense?

          They have a "source" in structures close to the US Embassy - they will say so much "send paratroopers to Ukraine" - so much they will crow, or rather "from where".

          Again, notice "в Ukraine "- preposition "in" clearly points to an anti-Russian "source" of information.
      2. +2
        2 September 2014 12: 37
        Quote: Giant thought
        KSMR turned into an organization hostile to the people of Russia, working together with the fifth column against Russian statehood. Apparently, the time has come to think about the liquidation of this organization, which discredits the very concept of soldiers' mothers.

        Why has it turned?
        It was originally, even with the hunchback in the 87th, was created to help the Yusats in the collapse of the army.
    4. 0
      2 September 2014 21: 42
      I don’t understand something, but is there at least one surname is the name of a Russian soldier who disappeared or was killed in Ukraine? It’s not difficult for a person to find and verify his existence .. Isn’t it that someone else is talking about this nonsense ..
  2. VICTOR-61
    +1
    2 September 2014 09: 23
    And here the Americans conduct their dirty and false policies
  3. +15
    2 September 2014 09: 23
    In fact, the CMCR has existed since 1991. If it is funded by the US State Department, then why is it made public just now? Previously, where did the competent authorities look?
    1. +2
      2 September 2014 10: 48
      In 1991, Kuibyshev (Samara) was flooded with representatives of all kinds of "churches", such as preaching the rational, the good, the eternal. For some reason, they only climbed to preach at the Progress plant (Roscosmos), named after Frunze (aircraft construction and rocket engines ), GPZ and others. They say the KGB / FSK / FSB had to work hard to clean up this riffraff.
    2. 0
      2 September 2014 12: 41
      So, from the 87th, when, after the Sakalauskas case of desertion and the killing of a guard by him, the first KSM appeared.
  4. +20
    2 September 2014 09: 25
    They tarnished the holy concept of MOTHER with their venality.
    1. 0
      2 September 2014 12: 41
      Quote: Owl27
      They tarnished the holy concept of MOTHER with their venality.

      Business, nothing personal ...
  5. +4
    2 September 2014 09: 27
    Here is one of such appeals with a "sentimental" frame from the chairman of the Saratov regional branch of the committee of soldiers' mothers Lidia Sviridova:
    -And they do not punish us for provocations?
  6. +8
    2 September 2014 09: 27
    how do mothers raise their hand to say bad things against their own children for dirty dollars?
    It doesn’t work for the mother, but don’t understand who.
    Because of a couple of scum in the Committee, really honest women suffer who fight for the rights of their children (and not only theirs).
    1. Underwood
      +6
      2 September 2014 09: 45
      Quote: Dimach
      Because of a couple of scum in the Committee, really honest women suffer who fight for the rights of their children (and not only theirs).

      for what rights? why do you need this committee? Served urgent without parental care. For example, I was not on vacation - and nothing, I managed. like my fellow soldiers. Rare parcels, letters - all that is needed and no more. Enough snot already.
    2. +15
      2 September 2014 09: 59
      It doesn’t work for the mother, but don’t understand who.

      To the point
      1. +4
        2 September 2014 12: 02
        MMMdya, a lot more shit in Russia. To clean and to clean. fellow
    3. +6
      2 September 2014 11: 36
      Quote: Dimach
      truly honest women who fight for the rights of their children (

      Let's dot the i. Their children's rights and the country's defenses do not always overlap. A combat-ready army is not a kindergarten. The army was created to prepare people (someone's children - yes) to the most effective killing of other people who pose a danger to the flag state. And ready to die. Moreover, not only heroically, but also by mistake of the command, from "friendly" fire ... KSM, sucking service and a quiet hour do not contribute to the performance of the army's function. At the end of 2014, having added Ukraine to the long list of crimes of Russia's enemies, it would be time to take a more sober attitude towards "protecting human rights." This usually means sabotage against Russian statehood.
      1. Underwood
        +3
        2 September 2014 11: 49
        Quote: 97110
        Let's dot the i. The rights of their children and the country's defense are not always overlapping.

        correct comment. And in Ukraine, by the way, has the Committee of Mothers of the Ones-Maids of Maidan not yet been created?
        1. 0
          2 September 2014 12: 17
          And why not organize and start sponsoring the "Soldier's Mothers" there in the USA - the sums are not astronomical - so - the price of a modest bureaucratic machine.
          1. Underwood
            +1
            2 September 2014 13: 57
            Quote: zeleznijdorojnik
            And why not organize and start sponsoring the "Soldiers' Mothers" in the USA -

            nooo, then the "Committee of Soldiers' Parents No. 1". Values ​​are unshakable.
            As there:
            I'm not at all ... s,
            I am the "number of times" parent.
  7. 0
    2 September 2014 09: 29
    Who pays the money, that KSMR dances ...
  8. +13
    2 September 2014 09: 30
    I wonder if there are really mothers of Russian servicemen among the employees of these "Committees of Soldiers' Mothers"? I wouldn't be surprised if there is a minimum number of them. The fifth column is somehow.
    1. Nicholas
      +8
      2 September 2014 10: 49
      No!! This organization was created as a sect. At one time I had to deal with the "representative" of the KSMR. Foamy screaming at the mouth about protecting the rights of mothers and their boys, 1994-95. He asked just one question, where is her son serving? No son, no husband, all the officers are scoundrels, etc. DIAGNOSIS - offended by the release lieutenant!
  9. +1
    2 September 2014 09: 30
    My heart feels all the evidence they have on the latest fashion exclusively on Twitter and YouTube.
  10. +15
    2 September 2014 09: 31
    If you go to the sites of RAIN ... BALT ... a businessman and other similar structures, all of them, like a carbon copy, PUBLISH A CLEARLY NEGATIVE INFORMATION ABOUT RUSSIA .... The question immediately arises of who, why and how will organize the pushing of the demonizing image of RUSSIA.

    I really don't like this ... such a policy requires an adequate response from our side.
  11. +2
    2 September 2014 09: 32
    How do they live with this? Betraying the interests of his own state, God be with him, with the state. They betray the interests of the motherland. Hiding behind a noble name shit on the shallow. Nothing but contempt, these people can cause.
  12. +5
    2 September 2014 09: 34
    The money worked out well ... Although I didn’t believe it, but the sediment remained (howling was creepy) They beat the hell out of the most painful place .. To the mother's hearts!
  13. +4
    2 September 2014 09: 34
    Cookies need to work out.
  14. 0
    2 September 2014 09: 35
    I always thought that this organization gives a sweetheart.
  15. +5
    2 September 2014 09: 36
    Polish intelligence has information about the presence of Russian troops in Ukraine. There is very little such information, but I do not doubt their authenticity.

    And the Polish intelligence has information about the Polish mercenaries fighting on the DNI and LC? ..... I think they will deny it.
  16. +3
    2 September 2014 09: 36
    The so-called soldier’s mothers work only for the money that, according to the price list, is collected from real mothers of soldiers called to the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation who came to them for help. As a rule, they only receive promises in return. The committee has long become a commercial organization. It was necessary to cover this stash .
  17. +1
    2 September 2014 09: 37
    The Committee of Mothers of US Marine Soldiers is financing the Russian Federation! And this is really ??? drinks
  18. Underwood
    +2
    2 September 2014 09: 37
    Polish intelligence has information about the presence of Russian troops in Ukraine. There is very little such information, but I do not doubt their authenticity.
    I don’t envy the Polish intelligence agents for some reason: sitting on social networks for days watching the presence of Russian troops in Ukraine in selfie TP. He made his way - and again to the monitor. You will become a hater here ...
  19. +4
    2 September 2014 09: 37
    The wallet ordered them to say what is written on paper and why the money was paid, and they answered
    : "IS". Everything is just like a finger.
    All these NGOs are essentially "the fifth column. My opinion to their statements should be treated very carefully and require proof."
  20. 0
    2 September 2014 09: 38
    Such a mattress-funded committee should be brought to a common denominator. Multiply by zero.
  21. 0
    2 September 2014 09: 45
    It seems that this committee was recorded in foreign NGOs.
  22. +2
    2 September 2014 09: 50
    And everywhere, wherever you go, American money. It seems that holy mother is here. And anyway. What is it - corruption, greed?
    1. Roshchin
      +2
      2 September 2014 12: 19
      These are the fruits of the destruction of the spiritual values ​​of our people. Everything is for sale. There are many people who are ready for little money to sell their souls to any devil, if only a warm, quiet and calm place, and meanness and theft to be unpunished. Such puppets are ready to harm their country at the instigation of puppeteers wherever possible. We need to talk more about this and call everything by their proper names. Pull them into the light so that they do not rustle like cockroaches under the newspaper. Public organizations should especially feel their responsibility to people, and numerous state. authorities, including supervisors are obliged not to look indifferently as they undermine the foundations of the state that is feeding them, but to fight for truth and legality, and not for good.
  23. dmb
    +1
    2 September 2014 09: 50
    What KSM is really not news, but still wanted to hear from Mr. Volodin why he turned to a foreign agent? Did he hope to get truthful information from him and did not hope to get it from the press service of his own defense department? such disbelief clearly undermines the foundations and is harmful to spiritual bonds.
    1. Fin
      +2
      2 September 2014 10: 55
      Quote: dmb
      but still I wanted to hear from Mr. Volodin why he turned to a foreign agent? Did he hope to get truthful information from him and did not hope to get it from the press service of his own defense department? such disbelief clearly undermines the foundations and is harmful to spiritual bonds.

      Wrapped up! That is, it was necessary to request the number of sent to war, wounded, killed and burial places to the Moscow Region?
      And the request to KSM is therefore directed because they crowed.
      1. dmb
        0
        2 September 2014 12: 22
        Do you think that Mo should not report anything at all. Then why do they need a press service? Or do you think that the representative of a foreign agent included in the public council at the Moscow Defense Ministry has more trust than the patriot Volodin? They could tell Volodin how ten representatives of the elite troops got lost, and where their commander went after they got lost. There, it seems like his last name and title were called. But if the elite representatives fooled about the commander, and he was not with them, then they must expose their bullshit. Have you heard anything from the brave generals?
        1. Fin
          +1
          2 September 2014 12: 54
          Quote: dmb
          They could tell Volodin how ten representatives of the elite troops got lost, and where their commander went after they got lost.

          So you write a request from yourself, then publish ... And I also propose to ask the Foreign Ministry and NATO, but what?
        2. +1
          2 September 2014 13: 39
          I began to notice that the surname "Volodin" began to appear, perhaps, more often than all the other words in the comments from the dmb, which gave out permanent insult.

          A person is offended by literally everything: both by "clamps", and by "foundations" and by the fact that Volodin allowed himself to turn to KSM, and not to the place where he would like to turn him personally.

          I would like to note that Voennoye Obozreniye is an open resource, unlike many others. And here each DMB himself can turn to wherever he considers necessary, and where a detailed answer will certainly be given to his appeal (who is the commander? Where did he take him? Who and for what reason?)

          If you turn to someone with the exception of Volodin, the DMB has no desire, then for a start it would be worth switching from using a third person to using a second one - well, this is usually accepted in decent societies ... After all, you yourself, I think, consider yourself to be .
          1. dmb
            0
            2 September 2014 14: 17
            Of course ..., in the sense of reckoning. That is why (since they have already started talking about decency) I did not contact you, but simply commented on the article. In such cases, the rules of the Russian language (however, coinciding with the rules of decency), the use of a third person is more encouraged. I can't say anything about the mysterious term "permanent insult", and I don't quite understand how the surname "Volodin", "clamps" and "foundations" can offend, even not permanently. When your articles are not permeated with the spirit of loyalty, and sometimes this happens, they do not cause any desire to comment. (Well, you can't sing laudatory odes, there are enough such commentators without me). If you disagree with my comments, you have an excellent opportunity (free resource) to adequately answer your opponent on the merits of the commented question. PS I, apparently, and you perfectly understand that if the gallant generals had something to truthfully answer such questions, they would have done it long ago even without receiving them.
            1. 0
              2 September 2014 14: 50
              Quote: dmb
              As I see it, you also understand perfectly well that if the brave generals had the truth to answer such questions, they would have done it even long ago without receiving them.


              That is why, realizing this, like you, I do not appeal to the generals, but appeal to those who "responsibly declare" that exhaustive comments have been received from the generals (in this case, from the colonel). But only these people (KSM) for some reason remain silent. Why, if they have a "carriage and a small cart" of evidence of hundreds of Russian servicemen killed in Ukraine? ..

              Well, about your comment: now I have to take into account that as soon as I see your comment under my article, it means that the article is "loyal". Apparently, the story of how KSM quietly kicked off an ordinary journalistic request is also an example of the author's allegiance. I'll have to live with it somehow ...
              1. dmb
                0
                2 September 2014 16: 52
                But did not, did someone from the audience of the site express doubts about the assessment of the activities of the KSM? So why write a hundred times about the "Open Secrets"? The activities of the KSM have long ceased to influence our society, but the WTO MO does. And if the KSM can afford to kick off the correspondence request, then the Ministry of Defense does not have the right to do so by law. Tell me, in all honesty, are you really satisfied with the babble of our Guarantor about the paratroopers? If so, then continuing the dialogue is really pointless.
                1. 0
                  2 September 2014 17: 36
                  Tell me, frankly, do you really like the babble of our Guarantor about the paratroopers?


                  I myself am wondering who these explanations suit ...

                  But before, as you put it, the Guarantor, this version was very cheerfully voiced by "unnamed sources" in the Ministry of Defense. So cheerfully voiced that there are more questions than answers. On this occasion, by the way, I made material. I do not think that the "unnamed sources" were invariably called from the Kremlin and dictated that the paratroopers were lost. Although in this story anyone can be wrong ...
                  1. dmb
                    0
                    2 September 2014 19: 07
                    Already warmer. Now tell me, the Guarantor is a parrot who voices all kinds of nonsense or, after all, a statesman who understands the weight of his words. If you and I have these explanations cause reasonable doubts (I have already given the reasons, but I can repeat it if necessary), then why do we consider our opponents more stupid? It doesn’t matter who called whom: from the Administration to Moscow Region or from Moscow Region to the Kremlin, the final result is important. But alas, he is deplorable. I previously gave an example of exactly the same attitude of the authorities towards their army in the 1994 year. It has no excuse.
                    1. 0
                      2 September 2014 19: 45
                      Well, right there everything is simple: Russia was taught (or learned herself) to adopt the experience of "psaking". If an information war has been launched against Russia (and it is at least strange to deny this), then in a war all means are good, and they use these means. That's why they "got lost" ...

                      I think that you are not such an idealist to think so: the official representative of the RF Ministry of Defense will come out behind the podium and, to the delight of the "partners", he will tell everything to the point about the implemented and implemented plans for Ukraine.

                      We ourselves are talking about the same State Department: well, they know how, s..ki, to lead the conversation into the plane of insanity. If they are “not refugees, but visiting grandmothers,” then why not “they got lost” here. It is quite adequate to the situation. After all, all normal people already understand everything perfectly.
                      1. dmb
                        0
                        3 September 2014 08: 44
                        Sorry for the break in the dialogue. I cannot agree with you. Propaganda should be smart, but Putin is not Psaki after all. To follow the example of ... you, it means to consider your own people as such. Psaki and Putin speak primarily for their own people, and not at all for the "imported" ones. As for our "plans", I am afraid that the US leadership knows them better than you and me. Traitors existed even in the KGB, where selection was not like today's, and the people there served in a different way than today's ideological. In today's society, the number of people seeking to hammer the loot is growing, but the ideas are rather weak. Actually, I do not insist on disclosing the "plans", but the absurdity of the explanations, in my opinion, testifies to the fact that such an option was simply not calculated by our amateurs.
  24. +6
    2 September 2014 09: 51
    At one time, he dealt with a committee of soldiers' mothers in his region. This is a complete brain takeaway for commanders. Stupid hens were ready to tear apart all but their not very traveling sons. All of them were fresh and their sons were crystal clear. There were such fruits for half a year of service running around eight times. Fortunately, there were only a few. Here and now grant committees for denyuzhku are ready to pour dirt on anyone. It's time to cover the shop with the landing of activists for slander.
    1. Underwood
      +2
      2 September 2014 10: 18
      Quote: O. Bender
      .This is the complete takeaway of the brain to the commanders.

      I agree with you, Comrade Bender! And what, the army, in the view of other mothers, is essentially the same pioneer camp. Instead of learning songs by the fire and adjusting pillows, the commanders raise their voices for the children.
    2. +11
      2 September 2014 10: 21
      O. Bender .... Alexander, at the end of my service I also came across this senile organization, I had an excellent slut fighter, stink of him like from fecal scupper. When my patience came to an end, I ordered the detachment to drag him into the shower and wash with powder. So this bastard wrote to mommy that he was beaten and humiliated. The representative of the committee rushed along with my mom and let me read the moral! And what moral if Mom, for 18 years, hasn’t taught a child to use a toothbrush, wash hands with soap and soap, hold a needle in her hands? Well, I gave these ladies in pure Russian mixed up with Latin that I am not a kindergarten teacher and that the little girl in the Navy is serving and not a pioneer. The camp is resting .... though then I received a piston from the command for an intolerant attitude towards the public . My personal desire, this committee is complete nonsense created for the sole purpose of ruining the army!
    3. 0
      2 September 2014 10: 49
      Quote: O. Bender
      I used to deal with a committee of soldiers' mothers in my region. It's a complete brain takeaway to commanders. Stupid hens

      Oho-ho ... COMMITTEE OF UNSPARE MOMS ... had a chance to communicate .... then it is impossible to sleep without a glass stop
    4. +2
      2 September 2014 11: 45
      Quote: O. Bender
      It's time to cover the shop with the landing of activists for slander.

      Plus for the post, but I especially support this moment.
    5. Roshchin
      0
      2 September 2014 12: 32
      As for the landings, it was said very much, but you need to know the truth about such figures.
  25. calocha
    +1
    2 September 2014 09: 52
    ALL foreign agents need to be calculated and eradicated !!!
  26. 0
    2 September 2014 09: 54
    The head does not answer - it receives grandmas.
  27. +2
    2 September 2014 09: 54
    It would be nice to have these councilors in skirts, well, check the bills, have there been any purchases of cars ?, summer cottages and apartments? As well as close relatives))
  28. 0
    2 September 2014 09: 56
    Sorry to close relatives ..
  29. +6
    2 September 2014 09: 57
    Diluted snot with sugar. And this "committee of childless mothers" should be dispersed altogether to Benin's mother ...
    1. 0
      2 September 2014 10: 51
      Kalomoisky Beni mom?
  30. +2
    2 September 2014 09: 58
    Given the current confrontation with the United States, the EU and NATO, where Russia is still engaged in a political struggle and is in a difficult situation due to the growing pressure of dirty propaganda and illegal sanctions imposed, I consider it necessary to introduce control over the action of opposition movements in the country and impose a certain ban on anti-state activities . Unfortunately, this is not the time to engage in democratic values ​​when the enemy is approaching the border. We are almost on the verge of a war, and in order to avoid it and strengthen our positions, we need to have a strong rear!
    And I won’t say anything for the Committee of Soldiers' Mothers, it’s sacred to mother! We must swallow and continue the fight!
  31. Shoma-1970
    +2
    2 September 2014 10: 00
    What is this cook woman about what is she !?
  32. +1
    2 September 2014 10: 00
    A common problem for an honest man. He needs to work in order to feed himself, raise children, and work and flutter his tongue are incompatible things. And now, under the holy symbol of the Mother, nits (without quotes) were wound up. The real Mothers of St. Petersburg, Pskov and others will have to do the "uprooting". Firmness to you.
    1. 0
      2 September 2014 11: 53
      Quote: GrBear
      The real Mothers of St. Petersburg, Pskov and others will have to do the "uprooting".

      All the same, F.E. more convenient. And if great-granddaughters are even better.
  33. +3
    2 September 2014 10: 02
    In fact, all the KSMR employees are enemies of the people, and they must be imprisoned for treason.
  34. +5
    2 September 2014 10: 05
    Even if we omit the fact that the KSMR "works for the money of the State Department," then one question arises for the mothers. How did you raise your children, and which of them did you want to raise? After all, it is impossible to live in a country and be guided only by your own interests. The country, whatever it is, needs to be protected, and who will do it, if not your children? Therefore, it is necessary to educate warriors, first of all. Who will be able to stand up for themselves in the barracks, and on the battlefield. And not with a woman's mentality to judge what you have no idea about. About courage, honor, oath and duty! "Boys and children" shove yourself away and do not show anyone. It's disgusting to listen to, especially if the kids have screwed up to the fullest and still carry God knows what to save their skin. Service to the Motherland = it is a sacred and honorable duty of every citizen of the Russian Federation! And these are not empty words, they were paid for with blood, big blood! And you spit on it. No shame, no conscience.
    1. Roshchin
      0
      2 September 2014 12: 28
      KSMR and mothers of Russian soldiers are two big differences. The CMCP, which are mentioned in the article, are warm places for "their" people on which to work out American money. Most members of the so-called. The CMIR children either never served or served at home. However, they take it upon themselves for American money to teach how to serve others properly. Let's pay tribute to the soldiers' mothers and say no to such "guardians" for our soldiers.
    2. 0
      2 September 2014 19: 02
      Quote: Evgeniy667b
      Service to the Motherland = it is a sacred and honorable duty of every citizen of the Russian Federation!

      Unfortunately, service to the Motherland was a sacred and honorable duty, as it was written in the Constitution of the USSR, and now it is just a duty and a duty. Unfortunately, now for a long time the people are being brought up on the principle “to whom I owe, I forgive everyone; or must, but not obliged ". All these are the fruits of the guanonistic-liberal upbringing and education that has been implanted in our country since the 91st year. And to overcome the consequences of this, you need as many years of purposeful and painstaking work. 50s, when girls mocked a guy who did not serve in the army, when it was a shame not to serve, I do not know, but I believe that it is possible. And for this it is necessary to eradicate such KSM, to introduce into the Constitution the concept of a sacred and honorable duty to defend the Motherland, and not just the Russian Federation, but in general, a lot needs to be done and families need to educate men, not managers-consumers. Well, something like that.
  35. +3
    2 September 2014 10: 16
    It's time to shut down this shop like the "organization of soldiers' mothers", and many other sponsored from abroad, they have compromised themselves for a long time.
    A mother who released her son to serve in the Armed Forces should already be prepared in advance for her son to become a soldier, whose tasks include not only protecting her own population, but also defending and protecting the interests of her state. Well, looking at the actions of the committee of soldiers' mothers, one gets the impression that the boys go to kindergarten, eat, sleep, play, and then return home, suck on their mother's tits again. Why does this committee not pay such attention to, for example, students, schoolchildren, and in the end its adult "children" who attend drunken, drug-addicted parties, probably because it is overseas sponsors who lobby and feed these very dens for the moral decay of youth.
  36. +5
    2 September 2014 10: 29
    If we come to the store, we see the manufacturer of the goods on the price tag (for example, Poland, Lithuania, etc.), and we have the right to decide for ourselves whether to buy this product or not. Well, in this case, unfortunately, you will not see the "manufacturers" of information stuffing right away - it is necessary to conduct an investigation. They hide very beautifully behind noble names. In this case, the "Committee of Soldiers' Mothers".
    It may be established at the legislative level that all information messages of these foreign agents must be accompanied by the inscription "Foreign agent".
    And then it will be much easier to separate "flies from cutlets".
    Second. It is clear that there is some harm from the activities of these "agents".
    Therefore, it may be possible to consider bringing these entities to a certain responsibility for throwing in unverified messages - both material and criminal (for damage to Russia's reputation).
    Then, you see, the activity and the number of these "political prostitutes" may decrease.
  37. Tanechka-clever
    +6
    2 September 2014 10: 35
    Good and timely article.
    "... gives a significant reason to doubt the veracity of the materials published on behalf of the Committee of Soldiers' Mothers ..." - American subversive activities are very flexible in Russia and have extensive experience working with different groups of the population.
    The work carried out among the population in the USSR-Russia by the American special services is mobile and easily adjusted to social changes.
    If in the 50-60s it was a field of culture aimed at discrediting the Soviet regime and its achievements through the "cult of Stalin", when the liberator soldier was replaced in Europe by a Jewish Holocaust and an American hero.
    In the years 70-80, it was a policy of promoting European and American values ​​through the bribery of scientists and managers of industrial enterprises, aimed at slowing down the development of science and its collapse - in which they very, very succeeded. And today, Russia's industry is still heavily controlled by the United States.
    WEAKNESS OF MAN, well, what can I say - the main thing is to know the tool and its weaknesses.

    Since the strengthening of the Russian army, and this is the 2000s, US policy is aimed at trying to take control of the Russian army and navy, and for this, the committees of soldiers' mothers are ideal.
    The activities of such committees and such mothers should immediately be limited only by everyday life and hazing within military units, and the rest of the activity will be abruptly suppressed.
    And any funding from abroad should be considered as a ban on acting as a committee of soldiers' mothers.

    Such committees should exist only on a voluntary basis and without a salary, unless of course they are mothers and not foreign agents. And only mothers of military personnel work in them.
    And the rest of the committees called "soldiers' mothers" let them go over to work like everyone else under the flag of "human rights organizations" as "foreign agents."

    ".. If we consider that the Committee of Soldiers' Mothers was included in the register of" foreign agents "last year - NGOs receiving grants from abroad, there is a complete feeling that the committee is working only according to the scenario written by its chief sponsors ... "- but something tells me that after all, their hearts are no longer rooting for the sons of Russia, and most of all now they are worried about their salaries in these committees, and these salaries must be announced.

    And the events with women and mothers in the Donbass, who voluntarily go to the dill guides and install radio beacons for money only confirms that everything is sold in the world - BUT NOT ONLY ALL PURCHASED.
    But who sold out in the comet of soldier’s mothers of Russia, it’s time to ask and forbid them to get into the military affairs of the army.
  38. +4
    2 September 2014 10: 38
    Quote: igor36
    In fact, the CMCR has existed since 1991. If it is funded by the US State Department, then why is it made public just now? Previously, where did the competent authorities look?


    yes, in 1991 mine and most of the Kremlin was financed from there, and the competent authorities dispersed with whistle and shame all kinds of former informers who became champions of pidosvobodom and dermocracy
  39. +1
    2 September 2014 10: 49
    In fact, the CCM was created with a good purpose. It was necessary to protect the recruits from hazing prevailing in the army at that time. The officers were busy collecting money, because their monetary allowance left much to be desired, and they paid it not regularly and they were not up to the soldiers. Why do I know, she herself worked as a civilian in the army and I remember well those humiliating times for the army. It is a pity that all these good intentions turned into a stupid waste of money from the State Department.
  40. +7
    2 September 2014 10: 54
    Of course, I will reason naively here. But I will say the following.
    My husband watches Euronews once a day, spits, but looks. So, there was a story about our Kostroma paratroopers. Including about the Committee of "soldiers' mothers" mentioned in the article. Well, it's okay, everything is clear here and everyone knows about their venality. But then they showed a picket of wives near the walls of a military unit, demanding that their husbands be returned home. One even gave a tearful comment (maybe a fake one ..).
    It is outrageous why he (your husband) then signed a contract - to get a good salary and sleep in a warm bed, but do not fight??? Although about the participation of our military in the conflict in Ukraine, more speculation than truth ...
  41. +2
    2 September 2014 11: 12
    When they begin to hold these blames accountable, they divorced like mushrooms after rain
  42. +2
    2 September 2014 11: 15
    Under a quite euphonious sign, specific bastards gathered who found a feeding trough. This is even trivial and boring - the moves of our "partners" are calculated 10 ahead. If before the KGB plowed the land with its nose in order to catch a spy, then for the FSB it was just a freebie - our enemies on our land even stopped hiding! Hence the question - why are we sleeping? It's not even about the KSMR, but about the whole camarilla in general.
    1. +1
      2 September 2014 13: 20
      This KSMR consist of old virgins definitely! Conclusion - they have neither husbands nor sons!
      Given how much the Yankees pay them, they are just cheap!
  43. 0
    2 September 2014 11: 16
    Indeed, the CMCR was created at one time with a good purpose. However, the situation is changing. Service in the army now and 20-30 years ago is very different. KSM quickly took over the good and money uncles from Washington. Now this is a clean 5th column! And the activists have already warmed up and become boring in their places! NOW WORK.
  44. +2
    2 September 2014 11: 24
    Quote: Evgeniy667b
    Service to the Motherland = it is a sacred and honorable duty of every citizen of the Russian Federation! And these are not empty words, paid for with blood, big blood for them

    1. The majority of intramarcade will not agree with this thesis.
    2. The Caucasian peoples are sacred, but the interpretation is very cunning.
    3. Who can learn to make non-empty words from this? - The Stalinist period of the USSR, Israel 60-80s, Vietnam.

    Citizens who did not fulfill their duties should be closed public service and part of the benefits. Cancel military departments. They are useless in the form in which they exist. Restore the system of mass stock collection 2 times a year.
    1. Underwood
      0
      2 September 2014 12: 11
      Quote: goose
      3. Who can learn to make non-empty words from this? - ... Israel 60-80s ...

      Yes, the slogan "Fatherland is in danger" for Jews (Israelis) is not a banal poster-slogan phrase, I think. However, in our country, too, the presence of a permanent threat meant giving the eventual a mouthful, if anything. And now - try to fight, it is better to go to the democratic panel, pick up a bouquet of values ​​from the hegemon and smile with a sweet tooth on your cheek. You look, and the army will add to liberal values. And the ascetic social activists will help.
  45. Beloborodov
    +3
    2 September 2014 11: 32
    The Mothers Committee is the fifth pillar. We are interested in the opinion of the Committee of the Fathers. That's when the fathers speak - then everything will be clear. Otmazivaet father of his son and himself hiding in the rear, he instead of his son stood in the ranks, or, as in the Donbass - fathers, sons and brothers stand shoulder to shoulder.
    Agree - in principle, it is strange to see a mother who sends her son to death and, moreover, becomes in service with him ... or instead of him.

    Reasonably showed why the "Committee of Mothers" - the fifth column in fact?
  46. +1
    2 September 2014 12: 00
    Yes, everything with these NGOs is understandable, if funding comes from abroad or according to some "muddy" schemes, then you can close, most likely, the Fifth Column ...
  47. +2
    2 September 2014 12: 17
    Madame Salikhovskaya!
  48. 0
    2 September 2014 13: 14
    By the way, and here there is one link on the work of KSM, sorry that rain.
    http://tvrain.ru/soldat/
    very remarkable, even at such a time, wartime, but ....



    I can say that if our MO in the localities is more humane, humane to those who have lost their children, more clearly to their obligations, we would do without KSM.
    I know stories from life when people lied about children, when parents ran and searched for children, and there was no time for the colonel from the military registration and enlistment office to go somewhere, and it turned out that the child had been in the morgue for several days, and in another morgue, etc. tp all horror and nightmare.
    God forbid anyone.

    But why, the state, in the person of "fat supplies from the Ministry of Defense" on the ground is not able to solve such little things for him, and such important things for parents - how to say that your son died like a hero, here is a car, here is an officer who will help you get there, here is the money, we will help with everything we need, why does gimmick and red tape and other bestiality begin? ..
    This must be decided, then we can do without KSM without other figures.

    Although I was probably behind, and the time of the second Chechen passed, but even then it was ...
  49. 0
    2 September 2014 13: 17
    When will they start to plant this pack? Or at least beat faces.
    1. +1
      2 September 2014 13: 22
      No, to beat is certainly not an option, but for foreign financing it is necessary to ask them. Then it immediately became clear from which ass the head was growing.
  50. +3
    2 September 2014 13: 20
    I won’t understand why not sue for lies and slander and rip off the same grants from them - but not from anyone, but from the leaders of these pseudo-organizations that nobody needs millions ...
    He can afford it, and even his own, always sobering and does not allow repeated nonsense, otherwise it will continue to pour dirt ....
  51. 0
    2 September 2014 13: 24
    I couldn’t find information about children or the biography of Flera Malikovna Salikhovskaya on the Internet. Where did she come from? It is very interesting to find out what relation she has to the army, even indirectly. Did her son (if she has one) serve?
    1. 0
      2 September 2014 14: 13
      It’s amazing, but you are right, there is no information about this person at all.
  52. +2
    2 September 2014 13: 57
    A friend's son joined the army. He left on his own, for ideological reasons, although his relatives did not try to dissuade him or offer help to “get rid of it.” His mother (you can understand her, a mother is a mother), having read nonsense on the Internet, began to contact some kind of KSM. There, of course, they gave her a terrible time, she called her son. Don't disgrace her, he says, everything is fine. Where did you even get this from? She doesn’t believe it, starts calling the unit, KSM prompts her (my guess) with other mothers whose children allegedly served in that unit. And they, of course, confirm all the “horrors”. Dad couldn’t stand it, put her in the car, and we went to see his son. After returning, it was as if she had been replaced. She sent all these “mothers”, advisers and “witnesses, together with KSM, far and for a long time (without mincing words. They developed vigorous activity regarding the lies that KSM is spreading. And his father, after arriving from the unit, said briefly - this is not service, but a freebie.
  53. 0
    2 September 2014 14: 25
    Administration of "Military Review" - sue these s.....
  54. 0
    2 September 2014 15: 11
    Quote: YasonDinAlt
    And everywhere - wherever you dig - American money.

    Or Russian from the stabilization fund? And the activities of the KSMR have always raised vague doubts in me. What were their trips to Chechnya worth? I wonder who benefited more from them, their children, or those who killed them? Of course, it is necessary to fight corruption in the army. But this should be done by those who have the appropriate knowledge, experience and authority.
    Quote: Wheel
    So, from the 87th, when, after the Sakalauskas case of desertion and the killing of a guard by him, the first KSM appeared.

    I have had occasion to deal with...kasas,...isamis, etc. in my work. As a rule, they were distinguished by low mental abilities. I remember now how during training for an orderly named Yozaitis, the duty officer sent pigs to straighten their tails, supposedly a commission was coming from Moscow. The poor fellow suffered for half a day, then almost crying, he wailed: “Why should I straighten them, I wasn’t the one who took them.” And so on. It’s good that there was no KSMR then.
  55. ing
    ing
    0
    2 September 2014 15: 30
    The article is very good and detailed, but I have a question: why is there no refutation or statement from the person from the Ministry of Defense to whom these “mothers” refer based on data on losses in Ukraine, or did they make it up?
  56. 0
    2 September 2014 16: 02
    these mothers will sell their sons for dollars and not wince
  57. stranik72
    0
    2 September 2014 18: 34
    I met such a creature in Budenovsk, to this day I can’t forget that “fairy-tale” meeting, and her son had NEVER served in the army, and she was like the boss in such a chicken coop. And this is the problem with our government in the USA or another country, teaching us how to live, this would not be possible, if I would have sat behind bars or received such a fine that I would not have paid for my entire dog’s life. We will finish the game with our liberality.
  58. +1
    2 September 2014 20: 41
    As far as I understand, you can be a soldier's mother for a maximum of 2 years. And it is not always possible to devote these (precisely these) years to a social movement. Well, to go to your son for the oath, to spend the night with friends or relatives of your friends or relatives - this is what a soldier does. mothers can help each other. Well, we still have to deliver parcels from those who couldn’t come to visit the army. And then, do they carry this long-suffering title of “soldier’s mother” for life? They have some kind of rotation. If they get something for it, then on what basis? If it's non-profit. organization, then according to our legislation its initiators and “employees” do not have the right to monetary rewards. On what basis do they operate? Does anyone know? This is probably where we should start and promote it further. Why soldiers? In kindergarten, children also offend each other, sometimes they are offended by teachers, which can negatively affect the child’s unstable psyche and blah blah blah... And this is a future soldier! I haven’t heard anything about the committee of mothers of men of pre-conscription age. Or maybe I’m the only one who doesn’t understand anything? Who registers them, where and how? Should I ask what kind of phenomenon this is?
  59. 0
    2 September 2014 21: 59
    Whatever you call the foreign agent, even the “club of angels of the world,” but he is a foreign agent
    And in Africa there is a foreign agent. A very useful law was adopted, useful and
    Timely. Well, the Americans don’t care, they even
    Holy theme is played. Truly, an empire of lies and evil, forever...
  60. 0
    2 September 2014 22: 57
    This “Committee of Never Giving Birth Mothers” should be shut down to hell, and the activists should be sent to the place of residence of their sponsors in Mtrasia. There were also crap crap.
  61. 0
    2 September 2014 23: 59
    Quote: Zapasnoy
    I wouldn’t be surprised if there are a minimal number of them there. Some kind of fifth column.

    It’s simply surprising that until now our relevant services have not discovered what kind of provocative scumbag this is so “comfortably” settled under the roof of the KSM and, while working off overseas grants, publicly fights in feigned righteous hysterics about the army “lawlessness” and pours and pours slop and misinformation about the Russian army!
  62. Dimonixm
    0
    3 September 2014 00: 03
    What a mess, now on Yandex the news is √2. “Pskov Province” reported the death of a company of paratroopers in Ukraine. Somehow the information war is not in our favor yet. Is it that the fifth column has become more active? Or maybe I don’t understand anything at all anymore.
    1. +1
      3 September 2014 00: 14
      Quote: dimonicsm
      What a mess, now on Yandex the news is √2. “Pskov Province” reported the death of a company of paratroopers in Ukraine.

      Shlosberg Lev Markovich

      Member of the Bureau of the RDP "YABLOKO"

      Chairman of the Pskov regional branch of the RODP "YABLOKO"

      Director of the autonomous non-profit organization "Center for Social Design" Renaissance "

      Publisher, director of the regional public newspaper "Pskov Province"

      Member of the Council of the Round Table of Non-Profit Organizations of the Pskov Region

      Deputy Chairman of the Pskov Regional Branch of the All-Russian Society for the Protection of Historical and Cultural Monuments
      request Well, it’s no different for him. Americans will cut off funding Yes
  63. 0
    3 September 2014 00: 31
    Are the workers of the Committees of Soldiers’ Mothers themselves soldiers’ mothers?
  64. 0
    3 September 2014 06: 07
    Where hasn’t the committee of mothers who have not given birth yet been registered???
  65. 0
    3 September 2014 10: 30
    I hate these scum. As a rule, they have no family, much less sons. They will burn in hell.
  66. 0
    3 September 2014 10: 52
    Back in 95 they were called the “Committee of Never Giving Birth Mothers”
  67. pvn53
    0
    4 September 2014 09: 03
    This committee is called the “Nulliparous Mothers Committee.” The name is more accurate than the official one, incl. in fact.
    Where the ears of the United States stick out, there cannot be anything good for Russia by definition.