Does Russia have a “B” plan for Ukraine?

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Plan "A" was, apparently, to protect the Russian and Russian-speaking in the east of Ukraine by military means, not allowing the executions and killings of civilians. He was refused, fearing either sanctions or acute nationalism of the rest of Ukraine’s inhabitants, especially among young people. It seems that the fears of a big war played a role. And now what?

Civilians are shot and killed, the troops of the eastern regions are retreating, unable to resist the heavy machinery of the enemy. Long they are unlikely to hold out.

Russia is imbued with the desire to stay away, wants to stay white and fluffy. Maybe Russia hopes that the war, lack of money and rising prices in Ukraine itself will turn Ukrainians away from the war and they will sit at the negotiating table? If so, then Russia is mistaken in the quality of those forces that are moving the war forward.

The more clearly we imagine our opponents and their intentions, the more we can say how they will act. The clearer will be our own actions.

В stories there are moments when its flow acquires a completely new stream, guided by new, unexpected forces, fed by unusual ideas. At first, everyone takes aback, and everyone refuses to believe that movement has other sources. Neglect this reality. Only a lot of victims of this, they regret that they did not appreciate in time, did not understand and did not take urgent, correct measures. At first, Hitler underestimated many and did not understand. So it is now: the arrival of the Nazis in Ukraine is a new and very dangerous reality.

1. The intentions of the Americans.

Does Russia truly understand the main actor of this theater - the USA? America wants hegemony. Without Eurasia, this will not work. She needs control of her. Therefore, the dreams of the Russian elite that their close ties with American firms will lead to a plexus of elites, and the Americans will no longer disturb Russia, are frivolous. This is the naivety of Gaddafi, who hoped that by sharing his oil riches with America, he would save the country and get a quiet life. They took everything from him.

Support for anti-Russian sentiments in all formerly formerly friendly republics, building missile defense around Russia, organizing orange revolutions in the post-Soviet space, supporting fundamentalists in the Caucasus, forming and supporting nationalist radicals in Ukraine ... Doesn't all these approaches indicate that there are bad intentions towards Russia? America in Russia needs chaos, that is, unrest, and war is better.

The war will draw on huge resources, tighten sanctions, and all this will overthrow the economy and exhausts the country. Prices will rise, there will be a shortage of many goods, there will be wounded and dead, there will be provocations, arson. A regime that is not able to cope with all this quickly will start to cause discontent among people, and even mistrust. You can play with this - to organize one or another version of the Orange Revolution, a coup, raise a minority through provocations and, as a result, divide, break Russia so that it will never have its voice again.

Nationalist Ukraine is an American project. They raised Ukrainian Nazis just as they had previously cultivated Muslim fundamentalists in the Arab world. And who else can be cultivated, who himself would have sought to go to war? Only such radicals.

Obviously, by putting only Ukraine under the rule of the fascist radicals, America is not closing its project on this. Why did American advisers occupy a whole floor in the house of the Ukrainian government? Maybe their desire to lead Ukraine to prosperity? Not? Then what for? Chaos in the face of the nationalists should go to Russia, and America confidently promotes this plan.

Look: at that moment, when peaceful protest rallies began to gather in the east of Ukraine in connection with the ban of the Russian language, and Russia warned that military methods of resolving the conflict would cause its violent opposition, the nationalists did not immediately overcome their timidity. It was also possible to resolve controversial issues peacefully, and who would like to get involved in a military conflict with Russia? At that moment, the Americans did not declare that they would withdraw their recognition of the Ukrainian regime back, God knows what sanctions would be imposed on Ukrainians, and so on; just so that there is no military conflict, so that the dispute can be resolved peacefully. In this direction, they did not even think about taking decisive steps.

Moreover, the Americans and pushed the situation to the conflict, saying that Ukraine has the right to maintain its integrity by military means. It was good to use force. It is also clear that without the consent of America, the nationalists would not dare to conflict. Someone had to cover their backs. And great uncle Sam agreed, and the henchmen rushed to fight. Even without attempting any negotiations, they invited their own heads of the eastern regions for the sake of appearance, but did not invite the leaders of the protesters.

Notice, Uncle Sam lets the fascists into the eastern regions of Ukraine in the full understanding that the chances of a Russian force repulse are very high. This is America arranged. Why? How can a war arrange? Mind is incomprehensible! Such a serious matter as a war can suit, if there is an important reason in it. There must be an important reason, a certain serious intention. So what? No other intention is visible. Through the war between Ukraine and Russia, this would bring chaos and the weakening of Russia.

Chaos to Russia! For this, the Ukrainian Nazis are very convenient - they are so furious in their hatred of the Russians, and every day of the war they will scream about the Russian atrocities, enrage the Ukrainians and recruit more and more new supporters into their ranks - you can make a big mess with them. In the Crimea, you can also make provocations with the Tatars, and they will start to worry and fight, then you can try to raise their brothers from the Volga region. You can try to raise so all Muslims in Russia. It’s not bad to kill some Russians, to shove it at the Muslims, so that in Russia their own nationalists would rise. In the Russian media, however, to demand the resignation of the regime that allowed such chaos, to set in motion the fifth column and to revive the clans' struggle for power, promising them anything. The prospects for Russia are unenviable.

Bringing war to Russia is not scary for America: Americans do not fight themselves, Ukrainians are fighting. If now the nationalists smash the militias, then the Americans will make another attempt - they will move them to the Crimea. As moved to the east of Ukraine. Or something does not suit them in this?
In thoughts of this can not be allowed? On the contrary: is it possible in politics to allow such children's thoughts that the Americans, who for many years nurtured the nationalists in Ukraine, brought them with hard labor, breaking everything and everyone, shutting up the entire world press, to power, without any doubt, threw them into bloody with all the horrors, the slaughter in the east against the Russians (!) already, and now, having a legal and such bloated reason for discord between Ukraine and Russia as the Crimea, will suddenly become moral and good and stop? Where did you see the Americans stop halfway? Nowhere was this. They persist, like ants, roll the wheel of their intentions to the end.

From this it is necessary to proceed.

2. The intentions of the nationalists of Ukraine.

So who will have to confront Russia? The Russians, like all normal people, poorly understand the nationalists, they do not even understand them at all. Meanwhile, the Nazis are special people; because they have their own particular idea. She sent all their actions. See ...

Why did the war start? Because of the unwillingness to provide the state status of the Russian language with Russian and Russian-speaking eastern regions. The nationalists do not want to have anything Russian in Ukraine — this is the point and foundation of everything.

This must finally be fully realized.

To admit Russian as the state language means to recognize the existence of Russians on equal rights in Ukraine, and this is Nazi as a bone in the throat, which is why in the Rada nationalists fought against this for years.

The Russians in the east started talking about their rights, about some kind of federalization - at last there is a reason to drive and fight them. Issues such as federalization, delineation of rights, taxation could be calmly and thoroughly resolved through negotiations, all the more so since the east did not refuse it. But this was just not necessary, but it was necessary to start chasing the Russians. None of the Nazis wanted real talks, that was what was seen. And the nationalists are fighting. They are fighting according to their racist, misanthropic doctrine - they shoot heavy weapons at residential areas of civilians, use forbidden phosphorus bombs, finish off the wounded, leave cities without electricity and water, do not allow any humanitarian corridors.

There is not a single gram of high in Nazi ideas. The Nazis are not patriots. Was Hitler a patriot? No, I was not. He brought the destruction of Germany and the death of millions of Germans. Many people say that if Hitler did not burn the Jews, did not go to war with other countries, he would have remained with his successes in uniting Germany, and at its rise would have been honored by a great man. If ... Such people forget that the essence of Nazism and the aspirations of Hitler was just to destroy the Jews and put the Germans over other nations; conquer them, and strong Germany was only a condition for this.

The idea of ​​patriotism is to unite all forces, all peoples of the country for its good and prosperity, and the idea of ​​the Nazis to persecute, destroy “strangers”, whatever the cost: let even your whole country go to fire, come to ruin or fall into tartar.

No matter how incomprehensible and inhuman such a philosophy of nationalists is for a normal person, it is the place to be in our time. As a rule, it is armed with impaired people, with complexes. Without having in themselves normal, human virtues, which they could show to people and thus assert themselves, it remains for them to appeal only to their nationality, recognizing its exclusivity. They see the exclusivity of their nation in that it is stronger than other nations, so they claim its superiority by starting to drive and destroy other “subhumans”. The more they drive them, the better they do it, the more their self-affirmation, the more they are satisfied with themselves. That is their meaning. Hence all their abominations - irrationality of behavior, inhumanity, war and the cruelties that they do on it.

3. Danger from the state of the nationalists.

In Ukraine, a nationalist state is formed, which is exclusively hostile to the Russians and is ready to fight them. Nazi in Ukraine is not really so little. Some people believe that the Nazis are only those that were organized into paramilitary units in the camps of western Ukraine and that they go with Bandera banners deployed. No, it is not. All large, formerly opposition parties, are nationalist parties. What did they do, what did they live with? Look carefully at each step of these parties, and you will see that it is dictated by nationalist doctrine, and not by considerations of patriotism, humanism or gain.

They fought against the state status of the Russian language. To speak your own language is a legitimate, important right of self-identification of a person. It is clear that the more the scope of the native language is narrowed, the more a person is afraid of losing his language and the membership in his nation. Therefore, whenever possible, multinational states give the greatest freedoms to languages. In any case, very carefully and gradually approach the changes in the scope of languages, where it is really necessary. Switzerland, where there are four state languages, could not survive if the infringement of some languages ​​in favor of one of them began. Yet the efforts of the nationalists went to the infringement of the Russian. That Russians will feel at the same time infringed upon — so this is the goal of the Nazis.

From their submission, Bandera became a hero of Ukraine, but they changed the school curriculum, where in the textbooks they exhibited Russian enemies. Now they are in a hurry to re-elect the parliament, since it still has deputies from other parties who have a cold skin from the measures proposed by the government of the national radicals, and they are trying to object. Such a Nazi parliament is not needed, just as the Communists were not needed in it, which they had already driven out. It only needs its guys. Who else did in history? For whom were the principles of democracy not so holy? This is the mood of these parties, their ideas, that they lived and live. They will not say: fascism is good, but they will say - beat Moskal, that is, Russian. But beat Moskal-this is fascism.

That's who we are dealing with.

In fact, how many Nazis in Ukraine, a lot or a little - is not so important, but it is important that they are at the helm and determine the policy of the country. All actions of a country are determined by their interests, and all people fulfill their requirements. There are liberals and other dissenters in Ukraine, but they don’t even try to proclaim any moderate policy, knowing that they will be immediately accused of non-patriotism and sympathy for the Muscovites. They are forced to support all ultranationalist measures, and this will continue until the Nazis are in power. In Hitler's Germany, too, not all were convinced Nazis, but acted as demanded by Hitler and his henchmen. Therefore, the country was characterized as Nazi.

Unfortunately, Russia’s turn away from the ideas and goals of the Nazis, including from the war, now has no way. See:
mothers are not allowed anywhere in the war of sons, so it is at first, then the feeling of fear for their sons will be replaced by a feeling of revenge and there will be no maternal pickets.

But the Ukrainian sons are already going, fighting, attacking, and even occupying cities. Ukrainian sons confuse nationalism with patriotism. But the Germans also fought with Russia - not for the ideals of Nazism, but for the defense of Germany - they were inspired by the danger of Russian Bolshevism. Ukrainians instilled the danger of Russian despotism.

There are a lot of deserters in the Ukrainian army, this is also not an indicator. There are always deserters - do they run away from weakness from war and the dangers of war? But there are few of those who run from what they consider wrong to fight against their own people, against the Russian brothers. This mood is massively not. The war is still perceived as a defense of the Fatherland from the separatists and Muscovites. There is no general escape, as in the Russian army in the 17 year of the last century. Despite the desertion, the army of Ukraine is growing.

Perhaps the difficulties of an economic nature — rising prices, interruptions in heating, a shortage of products, increased unemployment, will turn people away from war, make them look for peace? Also no. Indignation will pour out on the government, but not on war. Government can change. But new leaders will come, the same nationalists, and the war will continue. All the warring nations at all times tightened their belts, but the war continued. She was a matter of honor, and this is what victims of war and Ukrainian propaganda do.

Perhaps, with all the hatred of the nationalists, it will be possible to negotiate with them for peace on some rational conditions? Convince them? Don't they see that by pushing Russia away from themselves, they lose a lot of benefits and create great difficulties for their country and people? But the Nazis throw profit and rationality overboard - they tear all ties, all contracts with Russia, they don’t even want to discuss the gas contract. Hurry up to introduce economic sanctions. Act on the principle - let us be worse, but we will make you bad. Obviously, this is a matter of principle for them. And this is true - this principle of hatred towards others is dictated to them by their ideology, which requires, for the sake of the superiority of their own nation, to hate others and act irrationally. This horrible ideology everywhere turns the Nazis into something terrible. With them it is impossible to agree on anything, unless by force. If in Germany today you approach the Nazis and start a conversation with him about the rights of Turks to reside in Germany, he will not talk to you, but will simply strike you with a fist. And in Germany, no one talks to them. Already in today's Germany, “civilized” fascists also throw Molotov cocktails into the Turks' houses without any repentance and trepidation, as Bandera in Ukraine burn people and throw phosphorous bombs. The Nazis are the same everywhere. They hate the idea that people are equal, and therefore do not want to negotiate on equal terms.

Not only this, since even with the support of America, this state will also be directed by an external force to war with the Russians. In the war with the Russians, America will tie many Ukrainian generations with a special hatred of Russians. The Nazis hated and hated Russia and so, without war. But war will infuse this poison of hatred into all of society. Every day, Ukrainian mothers will receive funerals, which will be accused of damned Muscovites who create atrocities and who want to break Ukraine. Russia can try not to interfere in Ukraine as much as it does — it will not help it. No one will believe that she is not at war. Even if the opinion is such that Russia itself is not at war, it definitely supports the accursed separatists and therefore must be hated. Funerals and propaganda will do their work.

Ukrainians will turn away from war only when people start to believe that war is unfair, is not needed. But there is no way to convince the Ukrainians. They have no Russian propaganda.

Russia has no chance to change the attitude to the war and to itself inside Ukraine either by its mild behavior, neither by propaganda, nor by conviction. Do not change this and the economic situation of the Ukrainians.

There are no chances to change the mood for the war in Ukraine, so the Ukrainian Nazis have a confident game in their hands - wherever they want, they can finally take revenge from Russia. In the language. In history. In the culture. In the domestic business. In the external business. In submission to the east of Ukraine. In Crimea. The path is free - the people are with them. And they are eager for everything, act, and they act. If only it was infringement of Russia. If only it was Russian pain. Look at how they are fighting in the east of Ukraine, no matter how inhuman and fierce they wage hostilities, using all illegal ammunition and weapons of mass destruction against the civilian population, what they have at hand, not allowing any humanitarian corridors.

Seeing such sentiments, it is unnecessary to ask whether they want to take revenge from Russia for the Crimea. Yes, they do. Burn with desire.

Maybe they will be afraid? Not. The Nazis are irrational in their hatred of Russia, this one thing. The other, with America, with the support of the entire West, and there really is one, the Nazis are not afraid of anything. The West will give guarantees of support, has already given. Why not give it, because the West itself is not going to fight; it will give mercenaries and equipment, the benefit of both is full.

4. Europe is a weak map for us.

Can Europe have a big business with Russia, including gas, to contribute to the pacification of the parties? That is unlikely. Europe is strategically linked with America in terms of geopolitical goals - it supports the weakening of any country capable of somehow resisting the United States. Acting according to the rule - a big partner will get a lot, but something will be transferred to us.

In this bundle, Europe does not have independence. If America has serious intentions for someone, then none of the Europeans, no matter how great the short-term benefits would be, will not challenge America and will not oppose. Individual countries have deviations from the line set by Washington, but not opposition.

But most importantly, Europe looks at Russia in geopolitical terms with the same eyes as America, here they have no differences. Europe sees Russia as a rival, and it will be satisfied if Russia disintegrates into a number of small states. For this, she agrees to survive the loss of part of her business with Russia, so the chances of promoting the Old World to the peaceful outcome of the Ukrainian war dissolve into haze.

Europe, if she suddenly wants to keep her business in Russia, that is, with the best scenario for Russia, can only ask the Americans to keep her gas contract with Russia, and to do this reconcile the parties to the conflict, but insist on it with real means not. America will not listen to her, and the nationalists of Ukraine are instigated by America and only obey her.

Nationalists, as was noted, are not patriots, otherwise they would have become friends with Russia, this is beneficial. But the main thing for them is to drive and shoot Russians, and therefore the gas business is not an argument for them. For the Nazis for the sake of gas to put up with the Russians - do not respect yourself. The nationalists are planning to sell this gas business to Americans and Europeans altogether, but on the stormy run-up to the war, this business looks risky and unattractive to these businesses.

Still, there is a very small chance that Europe will persuade America and the Nazis to leave the gas business to her is - too good business for her. We must still keep in mind that America has no direct interest in gas for Europeans. Therefore, America, and especially the Nazis, if they come down to Europe, will do it only so that for Russia this business is the most minimally profitable. America and the Nazis know that in Europe there are more expensive gas substitutes, diesel fuel, for example, let it take them, Europe can live without gas, why indulge it? Therefore, Russia cannot use gas, blocking its access as an ultimatum.

We must be aware that the era of a good gas business has already gone through Ukraine, and if the gas business continues, it will be an era of difficult, low-profit contracts. Only in this way Russia will save this business.

It should be noted that if Russia had the idea that its non-intervention in the east of Ukraine would be appreciated by Ukraine, would remove the motives of angryness, cause location and the gas business would be saved, then Russia miscalculated. Such an idea should be considered childish; if it was, then because of the misconception of the nature of the opponents and their intentions.

Nazis as Nazis grew angry with Russia and pacify them - only to give them back their heat. Trying to defend the former gas business by some kind of negotiations in the context of the new reality in Ukraine is already unrealistic.

5. The main interests of Russia.

When you do not see active assistance from Russia for Novorossia, you think that Russia wants to stay away from the conflict. The question is, what are Russia's real interests in relation to Ukraine?

With a strong aggressively hostile state on its border, which also enjoys the strongest international support in its claims, Russia fundamentally cannot. It already cost her the whole business there and the thousands of Russians killed. But it could cost her her own existence.

Russia must finally give up the illusions and see the nature and intentions of the forces that came to power in Ukraine - the Americans and the Nazis. Give yourself an account of what they want and will fight with her. And this, combined with the speeches of internal enemies, can lead to the loss of the former statehood and the dismemberment of Russia. She needs to act accordingly and decisively.

In Russia, it is precisely the underestimation of the character of the forces that came to power in Ukraine. It would be possible to put up with the coming to power of the liberals or any other forces as a result of the Maidan. These forces would also be inclined to greater interaction with the West, but, because of their rationality and understanding of the benefits of cooperation with Russia, they would not break all ties and instigate Ukrainians on the Russians. One could count on some kind of acceptable interaction. But the Nazis came to power, people with the installation of "beat the Russians." It is a completely different matter. The situation unfolds in 180 degrees. These will look for harm to Russia, wherever possible, and it’s impossible to agree with that. Here intervention is required, one must forget about neutrality.

Meanwhile, Moscow’s neutrality emphasizes that it wants to reach an agreement with Ukraine and that the government is civilized there. When it comes to understanding that this is not so? What is impossible to agree and therefore there is nothing to negotiate? What other victims and misfortunes are we expecting? The sooner the correct estimate comes, the better.

The task of Russia to the maximum: to return all Ukraine to its sphere of influence, so that there is no nationalist state hostile to us on the border. Leaving it in the hands of the junta, we will always have such a state.

The more provocations and bloodshed the nationalists will do, the more they will accuse Russia of this, inciting hatred towards us of their people. The more people they have at their disposal, and the more they will be hated by Russians, the greater the troubles and provocations will be. Therefore, there remains a smaller task, if there is not enough power for the main one, it is to tear off as many Russians and Ukrainians as possible from this poisonous campaign who still want to live in peace with Russia and believe that Russia is not their enemy.

This is very important, since it will make it clear to every Russian that Russia is behind its own and will not leave them, no matter where they are. There is no difference for the Russians: are they in the Crimea or in the east of Ukraine - both are protected. The Russians held together, and if the government neglects this, it will lose credibility, will come out of trust, and the collapse of the Fatherland will be.

A buffer is created between Russia and hostile Ukraine, and chaos will not be brought to Russia immediately. The larger and stronger this buffer, the better.

This is the only way to ever make the union of Ukraine a legal way, like reunification, if the Nazi regime staggers, and not by invasion. In what form it will be possible to implement, through unitarism or federalization, the future will show.

We can not expect that NATO will not deliver its missile defense system in Ukraine over time, and subsequently troops. The further we can push it, the better.

Hence the conclusion: Russia does not want or cannot fight now, but then there should be such support for the militia to ensure that they win. Ukraine conducts full-scale army operations there, with a lot of heavy equipment, and it is possible to resist them only with a lot of heavy equipment and a large number of militiamen, and not with small detachments with small arms.

It may also happen that it will be clearly revealed that with any support from the militia they cannot stand against the Ukrainian armies, then Russia itself will have to fight. After all, if the militia will not take their cities again, the Ukrainian Nazis will come to the Crimea. We'll have to go to the Russian army to defend their territory.

6. Russia at a crossroads.

Russia does not help the militia, is afraid of the wrath of America? Apparently, it is. Because only by the fear of sanctions can one explain the proposals that came from the HSE: we must surrender Novorossia in return for promises not to conquer the Crimea, preserve the gas contracts and some acceptable mutual relations with Ukraine.

What can I say?

America knows perfectly well that Russians and Ukrainians have common roots, always with difficulties stood together shoulder to shoulder, that these are fraternal peoples and that Russia has a legitimate interest that no one Ukrainians take it from. But America bought most of the Ukrainian elite, prozombirovat nationalism brains of Ukrainians. Now that the nationalists are in power, there is an opportunity not only to tear the Ukrainians away from the Russians, but also to make them forever hostile to each other. Now the whole deal is whether the Russians will chase the junta and bring the Ukrainians back to friendship or leave the booty to America. For Americans, it does not matter whether the militia forces chase the junta or the Russian army will do it. For them, this is all Moscow. With annoyance that did not pass, they will impose sanctions to the fullest.

If Russia does not take the Ukrainians back under its influence, then America, knowing that Russia in Ukraine has its own legitimate interests and has not stood for them, will understand that Russia is weak and afraid. America will take into account the fear of Russia. Fear of sanctions and war, and try and then, and more in reaching the Crimea. Result: again sanctions on full plus war. Sanctions will be so and so, and we will lose more concessions than we will find.

But let's see how the nationalists react to this proposal. The rebels can not claim that the whole of New Russia is firmly in their hands. But the nationalists strongly believe that the eastern regions will not last long and will soon fall into their hands. The Nazis can promise not to go to the Crimea and save gas contracts in exchange for Novorossia, but for them there will not be the subject of a contract here - they just get what they would get. Why, then, should their promises be valid? What for? These will be empty promises. The Nazis, like America, respect force and nothing else, and neither the militia nor Russia have shown any strength here yet. Such a treaty in the eyes of the Nazis is just a concession, a weakness on the part of Russia, and, consequently, a reason for even greater pressure and further advancement of armies.

Do not want Russia to war? Of course, I do not want. But if the enemy really wants to fight with you, then how to get out of it? No The enemy will get you everywhere and you will not get rid of the fight. His intention to fight dictates the course of events here, and not your any good wishes. How Russia didn’t want to fight in Chechnya against Wahhabi radicals! And even make peace with them Khasavyurt world. But the Wahhabis wanted to continue to fight and in a couple of months they attacked in Dagestan, and so what? I had to fight again. Force has to oppose force, there is no other choice. Neither America nor the Nazis want peace (otherwise it would have been a long time ago) - will they, then, choose and leave Russia a choice?

Russia's position is unenviable; she does not want war, and concessions will not cause reconciliation.

America and the Ukrainian Nazis believe that it is fighting, because they believe that Moscow is helping the militia. For them, the weakness of the militias is the weakness of Moscow. This is bad. It only provoke the enemy. But this is doubly bad, because he is Russian everywhere, and if they fight with him, then they fight with Russia, and this is clear to everyone. Like it or not, and not to support your own - this is a weakness. Inevitably there is discontent with his government, the degree of trust in it falls. This should not be neglected.

Now, if the militia circle smashed the Nazis, the situation would have looked much better. One could not hope that for some reason the enemy would deign to be propitiated, stop chasing the Russians and not make big claims, including the Crimea, but call for accountability for the victims and damage, dictate their own conditions. The only way to defend the Russians in Ukraine, their property there, the property and business of Russia in Ukraine, including gas contracts, is not to be weak. Is it not clear that no "soft" methods against such opponents as America and the Nazis will take any action?

7. Recent comments on the fight.

In the West, frankly, there are calls to influence the oligarchs to call Putin to order. Russian oligarchs-who are they for? Do they have property abroad, will they want to lose it because of Ukraine and Putin? America threatened the loss of foreign assets withdrew Ukrainian oligarchs to the Maidan — that is what overthrew Yanukovych. She will try the same move in Russia. Oligarchs should be borne in mind that, on the one hand, by overthrowing Putin, they do not make their states safer, but finally put them under the control of America, on the other hand, how much will America honor their merits, based on its geopolitical goal to take all Russia i.e. their states too? In any case, it is necessary to specifically help every oligarch at least save a part of the foreign state.

Get ready for sanctions soon, they will be complete. America will not move its troops to Ukraine. But sanctions are her war for her; and she will not stand on ceremony.

Russia will not have access to foreign loans, and will be arrested for deposits abroad. Russia will remain without the most important resource - money. Withdraw money now. There will be a ban on foreign exchange transactions - transfer dollars and euros into gold and yuan now. Take advantage of the experience of Iran.

It cannot be that there are no people inside Ukraine who would not stand for fraternity and friendship with the Russians and not hate the fascists. Help them in the organization of resistance!

There must be a discredit of the ideas of nationalism. The younger generation has no idea about this. We must show that the authorities in Ukraine do not shout about their fascism explicitly so as not to frighten foreign liberals, but each of its actions is not patriotic, but dictated by the Nazi doctrine, exclusively the interest of hostility to another nation, which is fascism.
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  1. +40
    1 September 2014 11: 33
    The article is a little late, isn't it? wink
    1. +8
      1 September 2014 11: 50
      No. There is a sea of ​​such reasoning. As analyzes in the clinic. He is right in one thing. It will be fun when the states arrest our money. All. Then you have to overcome their missile defense.
      1. +14
        1 September 2014 11: 57
        Do not arrest. Because the rest will start seizing them. China, Japan ... Yes, China alone is enough. And the end of the dollar. And they only have candy wrappers. This is our raw materials, energy. Both the domestic market and the military-industrial complex. Article minus. I was late for a couple of weeks.
        1. 0
          1 September 2014 15: 45
          ))) how to seize! What will they spend them on, what will they buy on them? Will they sit on a pile of useless pieces of paper?
      2. +5
        1 September 2014 12: 03
        It seems that the author of the text fell asleep a couple of weeks ago, woke up and decided
        write an article, but the situation in the southeast has changed and I strongly doubt that the Russian government has lop-eared horses waiting for the freezing and seizure of cash deposits abroad
        1. WKS
          -1
          1 September 2014 13: 55
          Quote: herruvim
          It seems that the author of the text fell asleep a couple of weeks ago, woke up and decided
          write an article, but the situation in the southeast has changed and I strongly doubt that the Russian government has lop-eared horses waiting for the freezing and seizure of cash deposits abroad

          He wrote it then, and then fell asleep. And waking up published.
        2. 0
          1 September 2014 14: 15
          so much text .. until you write everything .. here a couple of weeks and passed
      3. 0
        1 September 2014 13: 00
        yes no, China will not understand
      4. 0
        1 September 2014 13: 32
        If the Americans decide to arrest our money, then we simply will not repay them loans, which are even a little more. And secondly, the Mountain shooter wrote correctly, if they do this, all countries will begin to withdraw their funds from their securities, and, as a result, from the dollar. A full priest will begin, from which they themselves will suffer first of all.
      5. 0
        1 September 2014 13: 56
        Quote: Stinger
        It will be fun when the states arrest our money. Everything.


        Indeed, then there will be EVERYTHING ... for the states.
    2. +7
      1 September 2014 11: 57
      Well no. But the author wanders:
      The goal of the SGA is not the Russian Federation, let alone the outskirts. The purpose of eu. The cost of goods in Europe is five to ten percent cheaper. And in order to raise the cost in front of the desired unification of the SGA and EU (SGA), it is necessary to raise the cost of energy carriers. Do they understand this in eu? Essessno
      . . Europe is in a strategic connection with America on geopolitical goals - it supports the weakening of any country that is able to at least somehow resist the United States.

      This is a "pearl".
      Europeans are pragmatists, to them this confrontation is like a lichen dog. But you won’t cross the open SGA either.
      In general, a weak article.
      1. 0
        1 September 2014 22: 44
        The article, in my opinion, is about nothing. Bullshit of the fifth column ...
    3. +3
      1 September 2014 12: 36
      In fact, the article on many factors is no longer relevant.
      1. Cadet787
        +3
        1 September 2014 12: 41
        DNR troops left in Zaporizhzhya region
        01.09.2014 - 10: 28

        DPR troops begin liberating Zaporozhye from the Nazis. Thus, the liberation struggle of the people of Novorossiya finally went beyond the Donbass. At the moment, the forward detachments of the Novorossiya troops and sabotage and reconnaissance groups (DRG) are "probing" villages and checkpoints in the distant suburbs of the regional center.
        The offensive in Zaporozhye is very important from a tactical point of view: by pushing the front line to the west, the DPR troops make the position of the Ukrainian Nazis in Mariupol hopeless, the Novorossiya agency reports. In addition, while continuing to advance through the Zaporozhye region, the fighters of Novorossiya can take into the blockade and Berdyansk, surrounding the grouping there from all sides.
        Thus, the agency notes, the junta may soon get two "boilers" pressed to the sea - in Mariupol and Berdyansk.
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          1. 0
            1 September 2014 14: 04
            such articles place in.
      2. +2
        1 September 2014 14: 10
        "Do you have a plan, Mr. Fix? - Do I have a plan? Do I have a plan? Yes, I have three plans! (80 days around the world)"
        The Kremlin's plans are very clearly visible through Solovyov's programs "Sunday Evening" ((By the way, he shouldn't have received the Order of Alexander Nevsky (April 22, 2014) - for his high professionalism and objectivity in covering events in the Republic of Crimea ".... Here is yesterday evening. From Ukraine there were Bondarenko and Levchenko ... representatives of the oligarch Akhmetov and the Party of Regions ((by the way, nightingales are constantly calling them - isn't it strange ??)), who were constantly present at all Shuster's polypornukhs and screwed up the authorities and the country ... square ......
        .. There was also NV Starikov, continuing the mantra of the authorities "Russia must not send its troops to Ukraine", otherwise .. http://www.rusdialog.ru/videoview/228_1409402232

        And here is the local strategist ex-Ministry of Defense of Ukraine Kuzmuk issued
        .. "He also noted:" Now they are quite simple. Having a serious railway line, a developed system of roads, ports, fuel storage bases, airfields in the direction of Rostov - Mariupol - Melitopol - Kherson - Nikolaev - Odessa, Russian troops can go west along strips of the Black Sea and ensure a reliable system of supply of resources to the Crimea ”.
        “Moving further, the Russians can unite with Transnistria, reach Bessarabia and the Danube River. Thus - to gain control over the Black Sea coast, and at the same time the ports, shipbuilding industry, airfields, including military ones, which (together with the Crimea) will provide them with the opportunity to accumulate more than 1000 aircraft at the same time. And as a result, there is a risk that after that they will be able to dictate their conditions, both political and economic, to all neighboring countries, "Kuzmuk said."
        laughing
        http://forbes.ua/opinions/1378013-cel-rossii-prisoedinit-k-krymu-sosednie-oblast
        i-dlya-obespecheniya-resourcesami
    4. +2
      1 September 2014 14: 39
      Quote: e_krendel
      The article is a little late, isn't it? wink

      "late?" On the territory of Ukraine, the People's Power has been established, the lawlessness of the oligarchy has been abolished, the militia on the western borders and the Americans in underpants, pushing each other off the gangplank, in horror climb onto the last ship? Now the militia is advancing - glory to him! What will be the efforts of the American administration of Ukraine tomorrow? - Nobody knows ... One thing is known, and where the author is right (no matter how infuriated the depiction of gloomy reality ...) - there is no peaceful solution to the issue! This decision remained in the last years of the existence of the USSR! The dubious pleasure of chewing snot - then, in February 2014 - was already very expensive. If you chew, it’s better the throat of Bandera and Uncle Sam. And the sooner - the better, the less losses. Zadolbalo to quote Churchill - about the war with shame in one bottle ...
    5. 0
      1 September 2014 15: 32
      Quote: e_krendel
      The article is a little late, isn't it? wink

      That's for sure! And weeks for three or four.
      Article otminusovat. And about the seizure of funds, in my opinion, it’s too much: if the United States does this, it will destroy the entire financial system of the world.
    6. 0
      2 September 2014 12: 51
      The article is a little late, isn't it?


      In fact, I also looked at the calendar if all the victories of the militia had dreamed of.
      In principle, of course, everything is written correctly there. But first, Russia has a real "plan" for dill. Which is called "the militia chops and chops dill." And secondly, well, Dill Piglet does not pull on the Fourth Reich. This is a pitiful parody without the economy, but, in comparison with Germany and without industry. Germany had the Ruhr, and even the Donbass is equal to dill. Moreover, if the West actively helped Hitler with money, developed trade, then no one is eager to help dill. Even the promised loans would not have been enough for them to keep even the existing industry afloat after the collapse of cooperation with Russia. And now even Yaytsenyukh himself has ceased to remember about money. And neither Europe nor America are eager to open their markets to "surpluses" that did not go to Russia. So HOW could such a country even think about a war with Russia? Yes, the Kadyrovites alone would have been enough for them, well, with the Ossetians and Abkhazians, as in the early 90s for the rodents of Basayev and Co.
  2. +11
    1 September 2014 11: 35
    Indeed, our president has a strong sense of tact and amazing patience.
    1. 0
      1 September 2014 14: 24
      Please remind, plan A was this:
  3. +3
    1 September 2014 11: 35
    Whatever America does for its exclusivity and hegemony, it will certainly rest against Eurasia, but here it expects a complete seam, as in those times who wanted to get Russia - the brains and hands are short ...
    1. +4
      1 September 2014 11: 52
      Quote: mig31
      will rest against Eurasia

      The question is, does Russia have a "B" plan?
      Undoubtedly! Plan B is the determination to go to the end, ie before a general nuclear war. GDP, this upper bar is indicated, with all the consequences ...

      Now about what will happen?
      Variants weight:
      - pacification on Ukroin with federalization and confederation. Option is not possible due to the need for a decisive third force, capable of POWER-UP. The Russian Federation will not subscribe to this. This option requires invasion and long-term sterilization.
      - section Ukrainians. The option is likely. Various configurations of dividing lines are also likely. It all depends on the determination of Germany and the Russian Federation, because they will be FORCIDALLY DIVIDING.
      - The military victory of one side, in this case, New Russia. An option is also likely. In this case, joint concerted action with Western countries is not required ...

      All variants require a "clean-up" and denazification of Ukraine. In fact, this process is already underway - the rabid and incorrigible are being laid with bones on the steppe expanses ...
      1. +3
        1 September 2014 12: 21
        Quote: Rus2012
        Does Russia have a "B" plan?

        Tue seems to be not quite sure whether there is a plan "A" and what it consists of, and how much it has been implemented, and the author rushed to argue about plan "B".
        1. +3
          1 September 2014 12: 38
          Quote: tomket
          , is there a plan "A" and what does it consist of

          and you do not see?

          tacit support for the army of New Russia. Reception of refugees. Humanitarian assistance.
          What do you think, if dill spends several million every day on the war, then on the part of New Russia, who covers the costs?
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      3. +2
        1 September 2014 13: 32
        Quote: Rus2012
        The question is, does Russia have a "B" plan?


        Russia has a built-in gene "code of the winner" and no one can do anything about it. Anyone who starts open war games with Russia is already a loser on the shore, and deception will no longer work.
      4. 0
        2 September 2014 13: 01
        - pacification on Ukroin with federalization and confederation. Option is not possible due to the need for a decisive third force, capable of FORCING POWER.


        Yes, there’s no reason to just cut off supplies and ammunition, and in a month Slavyansk will turn out again, only in the plural.
        However, I am sure that GDP is not capable of such a betrayal. All the same, the GDP has never yet shown itself to be yap and wimp. On the contrary, always, even in negative actions - a man. You can disagree, you can even hate, but you must not respect. And therefore, I am sure that he will be able to convince the ruling Russia oligrachic pack that this cannot be done. Moreover, the oligarchs are not fools either, and they understand that they go through Ukraine through them ... there’s not their soul, but their wallet, and this is worse for them than they like.
    2. net abortion
      +3
      1 September 2014 12: 21
      Quote: mig31
      brains and hands are short
      1. 0
        1 September 2014 14: 36
        Quote: net abort
        Quote: mig31
        brains and hands are short

  4. +12
    1 September 2014 11: 36
    Civilians are shot and killed, the troops of the eastern regions are retreating, unable to resist the heavy machinery of the enemy. Long they are unlikely to hold out.


    The author is either from the U.S. media, or the article began writing four months ago.
    1. +2
      1 September 2014 11: 47
      "This is the well-known question about 'Putinslil'. It is appropriate to quote the legendary war correspondent of Komsomolskaya Pravda Dmitry Steshin:" The expression 'Putin leaked Novorossiya' makes the militias laugh. We also laughed. There was something. No comment. "
      Source - http://rusvesna.su/recent_opinions/1408968691


      So I have a question why the militia has never made a statement that Russia does not help at all, that they have merged and that's it. I do not know how to download, but I recommend watching "Putin's Russian Army 2014". Interesting moments.
    2. +1
      1 September 2014 13: 25
      Quote: rotmistr60

      The author is either from the U.S. media, or the article began writing four months ago.

      I agree.
      And all the reasoning is some kind of superficial.
      Many topics are touched upon, and not one is fully developed. I did not even find the opinion of the author himself.
      Only blah blah blah.
  5. +24
    1 September 2014 11: 37
    Thanks to our policies, Russia has become a world power with which they are simply afraid to disagree.
    1. 0
      1 September 2014 14: 38
      There will soon be no one to skip and ...
  6. +7
    1 September 2014 11: 38
    Plan A was most likely abandoned for economic reasons. The junta was awaiting the entry of Russian troops in order to write off its failed economic policy to Russia. Guessed.
  7. VICTOR-61
    +3
    1 September 2014 11: 44
    Yes, amers will not be able to break Russia over Ukraine; teeth are being broken now right politicians rule and not the hunchback or Yeltsin who were bribed by the scum amers
  8. +7
    1 September 2014 11: 44
    Quote from the article:
    "Russia will not have access to foreign loans, and there will be an arrest on deposits abroad. Russia will be left without the most important resource - money. Withdraw money now. There will be a ban on currency transactions - convert dollars and euros into gold and yuan right now. experience of Iran. "
    The whole article leads to this deep thought: SAVE YOUR BUTTERS.
    1. +2
      1 September 2014 11: 50
      .... not in the eyebrow but in the eye))
  9. +2
    1 September 2014 11: 47
    The other day I watched the video of the Kalmius artillery battery firing ... This is a complete paragraph. The militia clearly needs specialists
  10. +1
    1 September 2014 11: 47
    Even I did not understand where in Novorosy they retreat or lose. Where have you been?
  11. +4
    1 September 2014 11: 52
    The article is outdated or the author overslept a fracture ... apparently the dose of panicain or vsepropadin was large. In general, an overdose. laughing
  12. +7
    1 September 2014 11: 53
    And I put a plus to the article, although I strongly disagree with the author. negative And how I like such articles: there are a lot of smart and "correct" words and sentences, but which cause a backlash from adequate people. The fifth column is not asleep and you need to know them by sight. IMHO. hi
  13. 0
    1 September 2014 11: 54
    The author uses the word “Nazi”, “Russia wants to stay on the sidelines,” “there is no resistance,” “they are killing,” “retreating” ... When did he write the article? Or wishful thinking? Minus!
  14. +3
    1 September 2014 11: 56
    The Americans are specifically conducting a hostile policy against us, including against our President. We also need to do everything to the detriment of the Americans, I think we should succeed.
  15. wanderer
    0
    1 September 2014 11: 56
    .... admin remove this item ... it just - kaka.

    (1st grade student)
  16. 0
    1 September 2014 11: 56
    troops of the eastern regions are retreating, unable to withstand the enemy’s heavy equipment. They are unlikely to last long.


    After that, there’s no point in reading further ...
    1. 0
      1 September 2014 14: 45
      From article plowing 3 versts. Who shoved her and why. It is possible to show how the situation has changed over time.
  17. pahom54
    0
    1 September 2014 11: 58
    well what can you say? From the whole article I understood that "... Hence the conclusion - Russia does not want or cannot fight now, but then there should be such support for the militias so that they will definitely win.

    It may also happen that it will be clearly revealed that with any support of the militia they will not be able to withstand the Ukrainian armies, then Russia will have to fight itself. After all, if the militias do not occupy their cities again, Ukrainian Nazis will come to Crimea. The Russian army will have to go to defend its territories ... "
    It’s too early for Russia to fight, in fact, it’s impossible. But to help Novorossia to the fullest extent is NECESSARY !!!
  18. +1
    1 September 2014 12: 06
    Yes, after 20 years, under our attention, but with the normal course of History, there again everyone will be rewritten as "Russians".
  19. boss64
    -2
    1 September 2014 12: 06
    The article is not just weak - it smells like verbiage here ... There is little logic, but there is a lot of "type" of deep reasoning ... And the author certainly hates Russia fiercely!
  20. +1
    1 September 2014 12: 07
    The article is already rotten
  21. 0
    1 September 2014 12: 14
    Now, if the militiamen smashed the Nazis all around, then the situation would have looked much better

    It seems that the author has been writing this article for so long, I think at least a month that he had no time to follow the events in the Donbass of the last week. Wake up, dear, your wishes came true! For you, the situation of the previous week in several sentences.
    Revived as a result of the Maidan, which immediately became legendary and victorious, the Ukrainian army was defeated in a few weeks in the Donbass. Head and to other parts of the bodies. The scale of the military catastrophe is not yet fully understood by all participants in the gravest conflict in Ukraine.
  22. 0
    1 September 2014 12: 15
    I think Putin has a plan and not a bad one
  23. +1
    1 September 2014 12: 29
    in politics, all the words are lies, that on the surface, at best, a "mask". I think while Russia has such "whales" in politics as PRIMAKOV I am calm for Russia. but to guess and predict the last deeds. we little people can only guess a little, a little The Lord disposes of everything.
  24. 0
    1 September 2014 12: 31
    ... the troops of the eastern regions are retreating, unable to withstand the heavy equipment of the enemy. They are unlikely to last long.
    Further "no asilyl" (c)
  25. 0
    1 September 2014 12: 44
    There is only 1 medicine. You need to go to Kiev and unfastening western Ukraine, build a pro-Russian Novorossia (Ukraine?) In the remaining territory.
  26. +1
    1 September 2014 12: 48
    You don’t need to look at the article at the moment. It is written about the not too distant (5-10 years) future, and RUSSIA will survive with full sanctions so much. You don’t have to think that RUSSIA’s non-intervention will stop the Ukrainians from continuing the war with the militias. I have never seen in Ukraine, although I served with them side by side for 25 years and were friends with many, and now they see me as an enemy, and I do not fight with them. Now draw a conclusion about the timeliness of the article.
  27. +1
    1 September 2014 12: 53
    Here's a look at this war:
  28. 0
    1 September 2014 12: 55
    Does Russia have a “B” plan for Ukraine?
    We have both B and C and D ... And we have a bolt with a reverse thread for any cunning starry striped ass. If desired, Russia can remove tonsils and amers through the fifth point.
    At Seliger, Putin said "Russia is not afraid of anyone," so "Welcom to the Rusha".
    You just need to love your homeland!
  29. +1
    1 September 2014 13: 03
    mnogabukaffini
  30. 0
    1 September 2014 13: 28
    Now, if the militia circle smashed the Nazis, the situation would have looked much better. One could not hope that for some reason the enemy would deign to be propitiated, stop chasing the Russians and not make big claims, including the Crimea, but call for accountability for the victims and damage, dictate their own conditions. The only way to defend the Russians in Ukraine, their property there, the property and business of Russia in Ukraine, including gas contracts, is not to be weak. Is it not clear that no "soft" methods against such opponents as America and the Nazis will take any action?

    So everything comes to this. Remember, at the most critical moments of the armed confrontation, Putin was silent, and from the side of the urapatriots and not only them, the cries of "Putin-Russia", demands to send troops, etc. Now these screams have disappeared. And, most importantly, Putin burst through, not an hour passes without speaking on Ukraine and especially in the South-East. And the statements are becoming more confident, especially after the meeting with Poroshenko in Minsk. In my opinion, building a clear policy and actions in the South-East of Russia lacked one link (but the most important one): the military successes of the militia. And then, everything should go easier, there are a lot of trump cards in stock, this is the exposure of the military and not only the crimes of the junta, incl. The Malaysian Boeing, Odessa, the economic collapse of Ukraine, the US failures in Iraq and Libya, the bummer with sanctions from Europe, and much more. In general, we will look to the future with optimism.
  31. Tanechka-clever
    0
    1 September 2014 13: 33
    Such "compotes" as this article - drinking is harmful to health. There is no benefit - neither cognitive nor aesthetic, and the harm is great - you can shift from someone else's head to your "not health".
    Let the author figure it out himself with his "sore" head - he will put ideas first on the shelves, and not all in one pile. Highlight - the main idea and meaning, and does not suit multi-layered sandwiches, in which the author himself no longer understands - but what did he still want to say. In short, it is not edible, and therefore, to begin with, the author must understand that garbage and a bin for garbage are not compatible things.

    In short, let the author work on the errors, and first of all on himself.
  32. +2
    1 September 2014 13: 35
    "Why did the war start? Because of the reluctance to grant state status to the Russian language to the Russian and Russian-speaking eastern regions."
    The war began due to the fact that someone needed it. There would be a desire, and there will always be a pretext.
    "There must be a discrediting of the ideas of nationalism."
    Do not confuse the concept. Nationalism is the love of your nation (read Ivan Ilyin, it’s chewed well with him), and when other nations consider him to be, it’s called chauvinism, after the French corporal Chauvin, distinguished by this quality.
  33. 0
    1 September 2014 13: 56
    Quote: Vadim12
    Plan A was most likely abandoned for economic reasons. The junta was awaiting the entry of Russian troops in order to write off its failed economic policy to Russia. Guessed.


    They already blame and blame Russia for everything, whatever Russia does, or does not, well, they cannot blame themselves for stupidity and stupidity! To find a logical justification for the defeat of ukrovsk, if it takes place, it is quite possible to explain that the huge army, in comparison with the militia, could not lose without the effective assistance of Russia to the current ukropropaganda, it would not be believed anyway, at least that way .. .
  34. 0
    1 September 2014 14: 05
    In short, the pindo @ tana plan is collapsing, we are all more hysterically trying to suggest that we do not need to defend ourselves.
  35. Everest2014
    -1
    1 September 2014 14: 30
    Return to suspended animation, the situation has changed a long time :) Minus did not set.
  36. 0
    1 September 2014 15: 41
    Does one confuse me with the word * MODE * in the text?
  37. 0
    1 September 2014 15: 48
    put it +, because everything seems to be clear to those present here, but in Russia there are many young idiots led by our oligarchs, and they do not understand anything and do not want to know anything except how to satisfy their desires, no matter at whose expense and ready, as in Ukraine, for money to demonstrate anything, even your own bare ass. So such articles need to be printed in the "stock exchange", so that at least some of them could think a little - what is happening in the world and with their country !? Yes, the article was late for several years, not days or months! This is a disease of our media, led, again, you know by whom. Our failure in propaganda is due to the fact that the means of propaganda were given into the hands of greedy-stupid oligarchs, no matter how smart they position themselves, saying "if you are so smart, why are you so poor?" My answer is: not everyone is ready to steal like they do!
  38. 0
    1 September 2014 15: 57
    Now there are three forces in Russia. First they are called liberals, it is Navalny, Makarevich, those who hate Russia. Secondly, the Putinists are Siluanov, Serdyukov, Medvedev, Gref, they are good in today's Russia, despite the fact that they are not going to restore agriculture, because there are Brazil, Turkey, China. However, there are Putinists of the second kind, those who are here in the VO having turned off their brains yelling glory to Putin.
    And there are those who love their homeland, socialist or federal, but what's the difference. The main thing is that education should really be education, and not cut grandmothers from parents and schoolchildren. So that health care really protects health. So that the plants work, so that the fields grow bread and not weeds. So that the workers were shown on TV, and not tithes.
    Maybe the article is partially outdated. But why when dill came and the cities were bombed, Putin was silent, and now that the militia went on the attack suddenly wants peace? After all, negotiations are now underway. Stop the fighting and that Donetsk and Lugansk lay under Kiev. Do not believe me, turn on the TV.
  39. Everest2014
    0
    1 September 2014 16: 26
    Aftir, does my heart hurt for the article? Criticism should be taken calmly or reasonedly, and not put down minuses to commentators who disagree with the idea of ​​the article. I overstepped all the minuscule and slammed the minus article.
  40. 0
    1 September 2014 17: 40
    There are many deserters in the Ukrainian army, so this is also not an indicator. There are always deserters - do little run through weakness from the hardships and dangers of war? But there are few of those who run away from what they consider to be wrong to fight against their people, against the Russian brothers. There is no such mood in large numbers. The war is still perceived as a defense of the Fatherland from the separatists and her. There is no general escape, as in the Russian army in the 17th year of the last century. Despite desertion, the Ukrainian army is growing.

    Stupid comparison, Russia fought for 4 years and lost millions of soldiers in World War I, Ukrainians will fight for a year and deserted in almost full force. Such an essence of them is corrupt and cowardly!
  41. Vancha
    0
    1 September 2014 20: 29
    Russians harness for a long time, but drive fast. Everything that happens is our Russian.