Professional rescuers appeared in the Russian army

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In the armed forces of the Russian Federation formed the first military unit, the main task of which is not the conduct of hostilities, but the elimination of the consequences of emergency situations, reports Rossiyskaya Gazeta.

Professional rescuers appeared in the Russian army


Despite the fact that the Ministry of Emergency Situations has long and effectively been operating in the country, life has shown that rescuers are also needed in the army. As it became known, their functions will be performed by the personnel of the 100-th separate support regiment, the Alabino garrison near Moscow became a permanent place of deployment.

Deputy Minister of Defense Dmitry Bulgakov said that "this military unit will be truly unique." According to him, "the staff will have to assist colleagues from the Emergencies Ministry in emergency situations, man-made disasters, fires, floods, and the soldiers and officers will do so throughout the Russian Federation." If necessary, they will also be attracted "to the centralized supply of everything necessary for military districts and fleets."

The regiment has a repair and recovery platoon that will deal with the elimination of accidents on utility networks and other life-support facilities of the garrisons. There is a regiment and a company of heavy vehicles, equipped with graders and special equipment. In addition, the staff of the regiment has a subdivision of floating craft, an autopilot with various types of equipment, a company of heavy tracked vehicles, as well as divisions of a bath-housekeeping and field bakery.

The military department stressed that "the military unit has increased mobility - if necessary, its personnel and equipment will be quickly transferred to any point of Russia to assist in eliminating the consequences of emergency or man-made disasters."

According to the information received by the Ministry of Defense, "on August X, Deputy Defense Minister Dmitry Bulgakov will solemnly hand over to the commander of the 31-th separate regiment providing the Combat Banner of the unit."

If we talk about "extraordinary" tasks, then the Russian military has to perform them constantly. Many cases can be recalled, but perhaps the most serious event of late has been the catastrophic 2013 flood of the year in the Far East. On the lake Mylki (Komsomolsk-on-Amur), the fighters worked around the clock, being waist-deep in cold water. And in the end they managed to save the urban area with a population of 100-thousand. Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu even established a medal - "To the participant in the struggle with the elements on the Amur."

The first to receive it were soldiers and officers (923 man) from two separate teams of the Far Eastern Military District - radiation protection and railway.
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  1. +23
    26 August 2014 20: 15
    Oh sorry. Age is not the same. Right now I would go to the army.
    A NEW ERA has come - RUSSIA RISING.
    1. +10
      26 August 2014 20: 30
      Shoigu without the Ministry of Emergencies cannot good
      Respect, does everything right!
      His brainchild of the Ministry of Emergencies - SERIOUS FORCE!
      1. +16
        26 August 2014 20: 36
        Quote: dr.Bo
        His brainchild of the Ministry of Emergencies - SERIOUS FORCE!

        And precisely because of this silishka needs an additional crutch from MO?
        1. +4
          26 August 2014 22: 20
          Quote: Spade
          And precisely because of this silishka needs an additional crutch from MO?
          Not everything is clear here ... In a combat situation, in areas and zones of mass destruction, detachments and relief teams are needed ... They were usually created on the basis of various subdivisions, in most of the engineering ones, but they could also involve others, it may well be that a new engineering part has been formed, precisely for solving such problems and it does not badly "fit" into peacetime, for solving "problems of force majeure"
          1. +1
            26 August 2014 23: 38
            If we talk about "extraordinary" tasks, then the Russian military has to perform them constantly. Many cases can be recalled, but perhaps the most serious event of late has been the catastrophic 2013 flood of the year in the Far East. On the lake Mylki (Komsomolsk-on-Amur), the fighters worked around the clock, being waist-deep in cold water. And in the end they managed to save the urban area with a population of 100-thousand. Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu even established a medal - "To the participant in the struggle with the elements on the Amur."
            The first to receive it were soldiers and officers (923 man) from two separate teams of the Far Eastern Military District - radiation protection and railway.

            That is why a mobile unit has been created.
            1. 0
              27 August 2014 06: 08
              So maybe just increase the staff of the Ministry of Emergencies?
          2. +1
            27 August 2014 06: 07
            And the Ministry of Emergencies didn’t fit in, the same military organization with many specialized units, corresponding resources. It is really not clear why the unit is being created - to support the army or as a reinforcement of the Ministry of Emergencies.
      2. +17
        26 August 2014 21: 21
        Quote: dr.Bo
        Shoigu without the Ministry of Emergencies cannot good
        Respect, does everything right!
        His brainchild of the Ministry of Emergencies - SERIOUS FORCE!

        Figs there, you ask the firemen what you did with the service! Sucks completely! Shoulder straps were removed from the objects, they were sent to retire, the pros left, and so on ... Ministry of Emergencies and power! Grandmother in Egypt suffered - IL-76 flew. People at the Kerch crossing got into trouble, figs to you! And how so, it was necessary to destroy the army, so that the Minister of EMERGENCY SITUATIONS would intervene? Paradox! IMHO! hi
        1. +4
          26 August 2014 22: 51
          Quote: Nikoha.2010
          Grandmother in Egypt suffered - IL-76 flew.

          The paratroopers were captured ... Silence.
          PS. Maybe about the paratroopers and fake, but still - SILENCE.
          1. +2
            26 August 2014 23: 00
            Well in the internet quite a lot of information. But on TV, yes, silence, today I specifically watched the news on all channels.
        2. +1
          27 August 2014 07: 21
          Nikoha. 2010, I agree with you. I’m a fireman myself. I just need Shoigu to scale (a hospital is parachuted from a plane in which surgeons perform operations in the air and removes all this television, well, etc.). 40 years old auto.
          Just soon, the Ministry of Emergencies will move to the Shoigu department.
      3. net abortion
        +3
        26 August 2014 23: 57
        Quote: dr.Bo
        does everything right!
        The most important result of the negotiations in Minsk.


        Russian President
        I refuse meet with war criminal Petro Poroshenko.
      4. sdwe
        0
        27 August 2014 00: 53
        I would like to think that our government protects us and gives us freedom of personal space, but alas, here http://g.ua/2329 I was convinced of the opposite, here you can find data on any person in Russia. I decided to find myself and in just a few seconds I got a page on which there was an exhaustive profile about me. It’s good that you can hide the profile, as everyone can see it.
    2. +2
      26 August 2014 20: 32
      The correct and necessary decision, good luck to the army rescuers.
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    3. +13
      26 August 2014 21: 28
      "Major Chistyakov dismissed from the Arkhangelsk Emergencies Ministry for" disrespect for the citizens of Ukraine "
      In response, residents of Arkhangelsk wrote an open letter to the Minister for Emergency Situations Puchkov V.A.
      I have no words, lost his post because of parasites ...
      I hope he will be reinstated.
      1. +11
        26 August 2014 22: 27
        Quote: Belopolsky
        "Major Chistyakov dismissed from the Arkhangelsk Emergencies Ministry for" disrespect for the citizens of Ukraine "
        In response, residents of Arkhangelsk wrote an open letter to the Minister for Emergency Situations Puchkov V.A.
        I have no words, lost his post because of parasites ...
        I hope he will be reinstated.

        Sergey thanks! Yes, it hurts to lose your home and so on, but !!! We left WESTERN Ukraine for the Arkhangelsk region in 1992, and thank God we have relatives there. We also "fled", although we were not bombed, but we all got to our feet! And I totally agree! In general, I would send my family and go to fight against the invaders, ukrov, natsik and so on, and not sit with snot in the shale on the streets of Arkhangelsk!
        1. +6
          26 August 2014 22: 40
          Justify the minus! If you are a man, you must protect your home, otherwise it cannot be! I am a RUSSIAN, and if some bastard destroys my house or offends my family, I will go to war, and not chew snot in Russia as a refugee! Sorry, I turn to combat-ready men!
        2. +2
          27 August 2014 00: 28
          Quote: Nikoha.2010
          We also "ran", p

          Many start from scratch without even running anywhere, because they have a home together with their parents, and in order to start and put their family on their feet, they go to rented apartments and work. Over time, someone buys his own, and someone does not ... who is what much.
          When I finished my studies, I realized that a goal was like a falcon and you need to start somewhere, I chose not to sit with my mother and went to Moscow (despite the fact that I was then a citizen of another country) because ZP houses are too small, and spinning like a spinning top making money is somehow not for me (working for someone we can’t earn). Therefore, I now work at one job in Moscow, rent housing and collect on my own. In general, you can find what suits you, the main desire.
    4. +1
      27 August 2014 05: 41
      Comrades, very interesting!
  2. +6
    26 August 2014 20: 16
    "... According to him," the personnel will have to provide assistance to colleagues from the Ministry of Emergencies in emergencies, man-made disasters, fires, floods "

    Strange things, the Ministry of Emergencies itself will help anyone you want
    1. +9
      26 August 2014 20: 30
      Quote: saag
      Strange things, the Ministry of Emergencies itself will help anyone you want

      Defense Minister Shoigu apparently has nostalgia for his old job. Or maybe she also wants the Ministry of Emergencies to receive subordination.
      1. +2
        26 August 2014 20: 53
        Quote: enot73
        Or maybe she also wants the Ministry of Emergencies to receive subordination.

        Still not broken there?
        1. 0
          26 August 2014 21: 13
          Quote: Spade
          Still not broken there?

          Prove it. Or are you trembling?
          1. 0
            26 August 2014 21: 28
            And the creation of this structure is not proof?
            1. +1
              26 August 2014 21: 34
              And the creation of this structure is not proof?


              The creation of a rescue unit in the army is proof that Shoigu was broken by the Ministry of Emergencies? What kind of brain twists - insanity or grief from the mind?
              And now he is creating lifeguards in the army, which will be yet another evidence of his destructive activity, right?

              Normal justification that Shoigu broke the Ministry of Emergencies, will be?
              1. +3
                26 August 2014 21: 45
                Quote: huut
                The creation of a rescue unit in the army is proof that Shoigu was broken by the Ministry of Emergencies?

                Of course. When the Air Defense Ministry begins to create air defense brigades, this will indicate that Shoigu was broken by the Moscow Region.


                Quote: huut
                And now he creates lifeguards in the army

                He does not create rescuers, he creates military units that will have the same function as the regiments and brigades of civil defense units, who rested in the Bose during his leadership of the Ministry of Emergencies.

                Moreover, this will be a golimy public relations, since the creation of such a structure will not change anything. Already existing forces and means of defense can carry out these functions with much greater efficiency.
                1. +1
                  26 August 2014 22: 04
                  Quote: Spade
                  When the Air Defense Ministry begins to create air defense brigades, this will indicate that Shoigu was broken by the Moscow Region.

                  But now this is not, and not the fact that it will be. There is no evidence, it means the allegation.

                  Already existing forces and means of defense can carry out these functions with much greater efficiency.

                  That's bad luck, the Minister of Defense believes the opposite. Who knows better, Lopatov or the Ministry of Defense? Especially taking into account the fact that, as shown above, "breaking the Ministry of Emergencies" turned out to be just words.

                  And no one has canceled "special" emergencies, where access only to military structures is desirable or required.
                  GO, the grandmother remembered ... Now this has definitely turned into a fiction at sunset in the USSR, there could well have been good reasons to dissolve.

                  Someone seems to have a tooth for Shoigu, and this tooth is so shaky that it is just right to spit it out. Or dig up iron crowns, that is, arguments.
                  1. +4
                    26 August 2014 22: 14
                    Quote: huut
                    But now this is not, and not the fact that it will be. There is no evidence, it means the allegation.

                    Well, I’m not saying that he broke the MO, it’s not yet evening. But he broke the Ministry of Emergencies.

                    Quote: huut
                    That's bad luck, the Minister of Defense believes the opposite. Who knows better, Lopatov or the minborons?

                    Of course to me. Because I am not guided by PR, like him, but by common sense.
                    Which tells me that any motorized rifle brigade has all the forces and means to eliminate the consequences of any natural or man-made disaster.
                    Have you served in the army, have you ever read out a battle crew during an evening verification? It must have had emergency response.
                    1. +1
                      26 August 2014 22: 59
                      Shoigu is a man of work. And you are just a talker. (There are stronger expressions in the Russian language, such as - pees @ un, but the good mobs to the talkers will be banned)
                      1. +1
                        27 August 2014 00: 12
                        He’s a PR man, not business. He didn’t do anything for the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation himself, only the Serdyukov’s legacy eats up, and he is engaged in all sorts of piracy. From hanging heaps of stripes on the form starting, and ending with tank biathlon.

                        Am I a chatterbox? Well, try to explain to me how the troops of the Civil Defense and Emergencies of the USSR turned under his wise leadership into what the Emergencies Ministry is like.
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                      1. +2
                        27 August 2014 00: 49
                        Picks up? What did he do? Seriously, I personally do not see the point blank.
                  2. +2
                    26 August 2014 22: 26
                    And no one has canceled "special" emergencies, where access only to military structures is desirable or required.
                    And what is it ??? Explosion of a warhead in a mine ??? An accident at a weapons-grade uranium plant ??? A fire at the RAV warehouse at worst ??? Let me disappoint you in all such cases, everything has already been provided for and "rescuers" have been appointed from the adjacent military units.
                    1. +2
                      26 August 2014 23: 03
                      Quote: Marssik
                      And what are these?

                      The article says: "on public utilities and other life support facilities of the garrisons."
                      Apparently, the Ministry of Emergencies cannot break into and repair in every part. It is logical that the garrisons themselves must eliminate their emergencies, but it turns out that not everyone can or not everywhere, and there is no access to the Ministry for Emergencies.
                2. +2
                  26 August 2014 22: 05
                  Of course. When the Air Defense Ministry begins to create air defense brigades, this will indicate that Shoigu was broken by the Moscow Region.
                  God forbid, the mother of the tomb))) For many years the bell, let it be better than a cop than a lifeguard ...
          2. +2
            26 August 2014 22: 04
            Quote: huut
            Quote: Spade
            Still not broken there?

            Prove it. Or are you trembling?

            Andrey, this is all politics! Serdyukov was pleased, everyone was silent. But Shoigu MOE, yes! And what about the sun? The MILITARY troops should be led by the Armed Forces, not the ministers of the Ministry of Emergencies ... Scha soldiers will put out the fires, and against the background of all these sudden inspections, the recklessness of our commanders is revealed, the Moscow Region got caught up!
            1. +1
              26 August 2014 22: 48
              Quote: Nikoha.2010
              But Shoigu MOE, yes! And what about the sun? MILITARY should be led by the Armed Forces, not the ministers of the Ministry of Emergencies ...

              Well, who should lead where is a broad question. It can be easier - to look at business. Is Shoigu something ruined, Ministry of Emergencies al-Sun? No, on the contrary, the Ministry of Emergencies has developed, but it is too early to judge the Army, but in principle it’s normal.
              And it’s completely stupid to blame him for creating a separate rescue unit. He does not disband it, does not create the front part.
              And so it’s bad)

              Regarding "actions of a motorized rifle brigade in an emergency": now there will be - "actions of a rescue brigade in an emergency". And motorized riflemen will iron polygons and make holes in targets.

              In general, any good undertaking can be declared a PR. There was no justification for the fable "How Shoigu the Emergencies Ministry was breaking it" was never made. This is for Lopatov.
              1. dmb
                +2
                27 August 2014 09: 26
                Dear Andrey. I have already spoken out about the second hero of all times and peoples (the first, you know who), but I will repeat myself. I will not remind you that there was a powerful civil defense system in the USSR, one of the organizers of which was Chuikov. This system coped with man-made and natural disasters, the scale of which is for the heroes of the Ministry of Emergencies. thank God and did not dream. Well, you can't compare Spitak with Krymsk. So our hero came to the ready. Having arrived, he successfully began to break the system. Separate regiments and battalions of the civil defense were disbanded. But a bunch of colonel-generals appeared, receiving rather sickly salaries, their own personal special forces, specializing not at all in extinguishing fires, but in breaking bricks with their palms (what does the Ministry of Emergency Situations have to do with it?) And such things necessary for fishing and hunting as Hummers and Toyota (I don’t remember, so that this technique is used differently). During the liquidation of emergencies, the lion's share of labor still falls on city and district doctors, municipal services, the army, and the police. Gentlemen from the Ministry of Emergency Situations are exclusively engaged in "monitoring". I'm not talking now about the work of firefighters, rescue teams and disaster medicine teams. But they are a drop in the bucket compared to the "monitoring" horde. So what is the effectiveness of Shoigu's activities? Not for yourself, not for your daughter, not for friends from the Ministry of Emergencies, not for friends of friends, but for the people of our country? If you answer, it is advisable to give specific examples of radical transformations that have had a positive effect for everyone. and not only for the Ministry of Emergencies.
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      2. net abortion
        +2
        26 August 2014 21: 49
        Quote: enot73
        get in your submission

        - Petruha- what did we drink yesterday?
        - Dry. belay
        - Why are you wet? smile
        1. +1
          26 August 2014 22: 09
          Lever forearm and throw, do Vova!
        2. +1
          26 August 2014 23: 12
          In move:

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD8NQT73Es0&list=UUFU30dGHNhZ-hkh0R10LhLw

          Lukashenko is a direct caring host, he is bustling, represents Putin to Poroshenko, they say get acquainted. Meet, hmm ...
        3. 0
          27 August 2014 01: 34
          Hmm ... But does the VFM officer in the background carry the wrong suitcase? As far as I know, before the one who wears a suitcase, they always dressed under a sailor.
  3. +4
    26 August 2014 20: 24
    not understandable. will duplicate MOE?
    1. +3
      26 August 2014 20: 29
      Rumor has it that next year the ranks of the Ministry of Emergency Situations will thin out considerably, i.e. serious staff reductions are planned, in connection with this, military units are being formed. rescuers. And why not, in the USSR the fire service was under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Defense (part of the civil defense)! Often, the RF Armed Forces are involved in the elimination of man-made disasters, and it is much easier to organize interaction in one's own "economy" than in disparate ministries and departments.
      1. +1
        26 August 2014 22: 14
        Quote: Father Nikon
        Rumor has it that next year the ranks of the Ministry of Emergency Situations will thin out considerably, i.e. a serious reduction in staff is planned, and in this connection units of the military are being formed. lifeguards.
        Then what is the point of this staff optimization? To abbreviated Ministry of Emergencies moved to serve in other regions?
        Quote: Father Nikon
        in the USSR, the fire service was run by the Ministry of Defense (part of the Civil Defense Department)!
        Fire Service In the USSR, it was subordinate to the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and GO troops were intended mainly for rescue operations during a nuclear war.
    2. +1
      26 August 2014 20: 29
      No ... No one will duplicate anyone !!! Most accidents and emergencies occur during exercises and field exits ... Apparently, they will also carry a kind of duty at such events !!!
    3. +4
      26 August 2014 20: 30
      Quote: lav67
      not understandable. will duplicate MOE?


      Double feelings. But you must admit that as a serious or even moderate difficulty occurs, the army is always used, (diverting other types of troops to help), maybe now they won’t, when the military regiment of the Ministry of Emergencies appears? wink
      1. +3
        26 August 2014 20: 53
        And what can be twofold here? Nonsense, she is nonsense.

        In the event that serious emergency situations occur, sappers, chemists, rear doctors, BTAs begin to act in their intended purpose, so that this does not cause any damage to combat training, rather the opposite. And no additional military units need to be created for this.

        There are trained people, there is equipment, there is the Ministry of Emergency Situations, which "thanks" to the stick leader Shoigu turned from an executive body into a coordinating one, but nevertheless capable of leading the units of the Interior Ministry's Interior Ministry, Ministry of Defense and its own in the liquidation of emergency. And there is no need to grow a fifth leg at the Ministry of Defense, it is enough to carry out normal CSU once every six months with the involvement of security officials and executive authorities
        1. -3
          27 August 2014 00: 32
          Goblin, where did you get such confidence in the General Staff from or serve ?????
    4. +1
      26 August 2014 22: 14
      Quote: lav67
      not understandable. will duplicate MOE?

      No, the entire army was dressed up in the uniform of the Ministry of Emergencies. The Goshnikovs will be taken to the Armed Forces, the firefighters will be handed over to the municipality, the shoulder straps will be removed and nothing new will be invented. We bet?
  4. +1
    26 August 2014 20: 27
    not understandable. will duplicate MOE?

    Rather, do not duplicate, but help, if necessary, in case of major disasters.
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  5. +5
    26 August 2014 20: 27
    It is high time for the Ministry of Emergency Situations to return the status of civil defense troops. Tasks, in fact, are military.
  6. naturalist
    0
    26 August 2014 20: 28
    The right way is not that direction.
  7. +1
    26 August 2014 20: 30
    Maybe I don’t understand something, but ... why should the regiment provide the BATTLE Banner. During the years of my service, the support units received the Unit banner only if they were awarded state awards. The combat banner is the combat one that the combat units have. The past of Sergey Kozhugetovich is traced ... The Minister is nostalgic.
    1. +3
      26 August 2014 21: 00
      ... why should the regiment provide the BATTLE banner ...

      You probably don't know what a military unit's battle banner is? First of all, the BATTLE BANNER is a symbol of military valor, glory and honor. Are you saying that the rear units don't deserve the Battle Banner? Maybe Slavyanka OJSC really does not deserve it, but take, for example, BMO of a motorized rifle brigade (division), which one to serve there, don't you know? From history, how many offensive operations of the Great Patriotic War were simply stopped or choked up because of the supply units that were not keeping up with the vanguards! For example, Marshal of the Soviet Union I.Kh. Baghramyan said: "The fuel service is a combat support service." Shoigu is doing everything right, every serviceman, regardless of the purpose of his unit, must honor its exploits, military path and services to the Fatherland, and each military unit must have its own BATTLE BANNER !!!
      1. 0
        27 August 2014 00: 35
        Here is a huge plus for a person who knows what he is writing about
      2. +2
        27 August 2014 07: 53
        Dear "Father Nikon", there is no need to agitate me "for Soviet power." I served in the Air Force support units for almost 30 years, finished my service as an air base commander (if you understand what it is). You, dear, have confused "green with warm". I repeat once again that the battle banner was handed over to combat units not because it is difficult or easy to serve there, but because, figuratively speaking, they go to ATTACK with this banner. The Battle Banner is an attribute of the Combat Units. Well, as for the difficulties ... Just for example, I'll write: the weather scout before the first shift takes off at 6.00 in the morning. At 1.30, my airfield operational company gets up to prepare the runway for flights and in 40 gadus frost (garrison Dzhida-Transbaikalia) plows at the airfield for a day. At 24.00 debriefing. Then we put the equipment in the park, get some sleep, and the next day everything will be over again. Well, on Sunday - fill the seams at takeoff. In fact, labor is a carriage. People (no matter officers, warrant officers, soldiers) do not see a day or night. But the Battle Banner is only in the aviation regiment, because it performs COMBAT tasks and not SUPPORT tasks. Something like that...
  8. +4
    26 August 2014 20: 32
    The army becomes self-sufficient, which cannot but rejoice.
  9. +3
    26 August 2014 20: 39
    As it is clear from the note (not enough for the article), a special unit is being created in the armed forces to deal with the consequences of emergency situations.
    Those. will it be the only part?
    If so, then she will be "imprisoned" along the way:
    - for such accidents where access is undesirable to anyone except the military because of the secrecy regime and otherwise ...
    - Or liquidation of emergency situations, where without weapons to meddle in any way ...
    - elimination of accidents on the "army territory".
    T.ke a military mobile regiment to eliminate ANY accidents and disasters, including under ANY conditions for the use of weapons.


    I do not see any other justification, although it is cheaper to plug holes in conscripts.
    Maybe just information in the material is not enough about this regiment...
    But PTS, IMR in the regiment’s staff will definitely be there, as will the entire line of military-engineering vehicles, possibly Berlog and Ladoga.
    wink
    1. +7
      26 August 2014 21: 03
      After reading the headline, I was delighted, I thought, finally, the Ministry of Defense decided to do something right, saved it. units similar to those available for a probable adversary. Evacuating downed pilots wounded from the battlefield, surrounded by small units ...

      After reading the article, he blamed: they decided to grow a fifth leg in the Moscow Region. It remains to create military units that duplicate the work of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Federal Penitentiary Service and the Pension Fund ... Well, there, the streets of the cities are patrolled (sometimes it’s necessary), they are caught (also happens), the pensioners have to carry money (I personally participated)
      1. 0
        26 August 2014 21: 17
        Quote: Spade
        After reading the article, he blamed: they decided to grow a fifth leg in the Moscow Region.

        Duc is really not entirely clear from this note - what kind of animal is this?
        What is the purpose and objectives? What are OSR and OSH?
        request
        Need info.
        1. +1
          26 August 2014 21: 31
          What kind of beast? Yes, with a probability close to unity, he was going to create in the Moscow Region those units and formations that he had successfully destroyed as a Minister of Emergency Situations. What used to be part of the Civil Defense Forces.
          1. Maks104kos
            0
            26 August 2014 23: 38
            Well done, you are the only one who noticed this. And unas in the country wherever you look everywhere like that.
      2. 0
        27 August 2014 07: 59
        The rescue units of the Moscow Region existed before. In particular, in my unit (and similar parts) there was a rescue team. It's just the specifics of the part. Well, as for this regiment, it’s actually just the fifth leg. Shoigu focuses on what he has been doing for 20 years.
  10. +3
    26 August 2014 20: 40
    Quote: polite people
    Oh sorry. Age is not the same. Right now I would go to the army.
    A NEW ERA has come - RUSSIA RISING.

    crying similarly colleague soldier
  11. special
    +4
    26 August 2014 20: 40
    Quote: father Nikon
    Rumor has it that next year the ranks of the Ministry of Emergency Situations will thin out considerably, i.e. serious staff reductions are planned, in connection with this, military units are being formed. rescuers. And why not, in the USSR the fire service was under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Defense (part of the civil defense)! Often, the RF Armed Forces are involved in the elimination of man-made disasters, and it is much easier to organize interaction in one's own "economy" than in disparate ministries and departments.

    Wasn't the fire department in the USSR under the Ministry of Internal Affairs? request
    1. +4
      26 August 2014 21: 00
      Quote: special
      Quote: father Nikon
      Rumor has it that next year the ranks of the Ministry of Emergency Situations will thin out considerably, i.e. serious staff reductions are planned, in connection with this, military units are being formed. rescuers. And why not, in the USSR the fire service was under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Defense (part of the civil defense)! Often, the RF Armed Forces are involved in the elimination of man-made disasters, and it is much easier to organize interaction in one's own "economy" than in disparate ministries and departments.

      Wasn't the fire department in the USSR under the Ministry of Internal Affairs? request

      Even the certificates were Ministry of Internal Affairs. In fact, the internal troops, only their tasks. It is necessary to restore order in this matter. Kittens from trees, but on the beaches on duty (it.p.), some people should, but to eliminate serious emergencies, mine (it.p.) people are military. Now everything is piled up - both divers and climbers. I believe that, as in the army, we need specialists - tankers separately, pilots separately. It will remain to establish a unified management and interaction. And the thing goes.
    2. +2
      26 August 2014 21: 15
      Wasn't the fire department in the USSR under the Ministry of Internal Affairs?

      I apologize, I mixed flies with cutlets, the fire service was part of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and Civil Defense is an independent structure that interacts with the Ministry of Defense.
  12. +4
    26 August 2014 20: 43
    And in your opinion, in critical situations it is better to involve the Air Force or the Airborne Forces, which were not prepared for this? And the need for salvation specialists with us is constant at all times of the year.
    1. 0
      26 August 2014 21: 06
      Quote: a.hamster55
      And in your opinion, in critical situations it is better to involve the Air Force or the Airborne Forces, which were not prepared for this? And the need for salvation specialists with us is constant at all times of the year.

      Just not. Simply, everything should be organized in the Ministry of Emergencies in a military manner. And it is better to return them to the bosom of MO.
    2. 0
      26 August 2014 21: 06
      Better to attract those who are closer. How it is being done now, and how it will be done after the creation of these misunderstandings. And about "they did not prepare for this" - you are deeply wrong. This is what they are preparing for.
  13. +4
    26 August 2014 20: 44
    Such troops are needed. Will the Ministry of Emergencies work in the war zone? And it looks like you have to ...
  14. +4
    26 August 2014 20: 46
    But in the YEARS of my service, even a separate support division had a Banner.
    1. +4
      26 August 2014 21: 04
      Everything is correct. A separate division was a military unit. With a Battle Banner and a round seal.
      1. +1
        26 August 2014 21: 12
        Quote: Spade
        Everything is correct. A separate division was a military unit. With a Battle Banner and a round seal.

        Yes.
        Like individual battalions in divisions and armies.
        Not to mention the shelves of any specialization.
        1. -2
          26 August 2014 21: 36
          And in the brigades? They also seemed to be called separate, but they didn’t have a banner and a seal.
          I was told about a separate "dog" platoon, which was held as a military unit of district subordination with its own seal. About the Banner not in the know.
          1. +3
            26 August 2014 21: 54
            I heard about a platoon for the first time, but there were a lot of individual companies with a seal.
            1. 0
              26 August 2014 22: 04
              Separate mouth with a seal of the sea. There were separate guard companies at each base or arsenal of the GRAU. And by the way, I also don’t know if they had any Battle Banners. Prints for sure.
          2. +2
            26 August 2014 21: 57
            Quote: Spade
            And in the brigades? They also seemed to be called separate, but they didn’t have a banner and a seal.

            About brigade battalions - not in the know.
            Honestly, I did not come across a service ...
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  15. +3
    26 August 2014 20: 47
    I would understand that in each fleet I would create some highly equipped rescue unit for rescue crews of submarines and surface ships, I would also understand the creation of a rescue and evacuation service for aircraft pilots ... and so, he builds his own emergency hemorrhoids, a lover of caps and jackets a la american sheriff
  16. 0
    26 August 2014 20: 56
    Quote: lukke
    I understand that every fleet would create some highly equipped rescue unit for rescue crews of submarines and surface ships


    there was such an ACC - emergency rescue service, as is now unknown
  17. -1
    26 August 2014 21: 00
    I respect you. Correct solution. But in my one piece is not enough. It’s a pity the years are not those, otherwise I would be there. winked
  18. Arh
    0
    26 August 2014 21: 02
    Yes, this is a very correct development of the Ministry of Emergencies, they have a lot of work to do, how much they did, if they were not there or didn’t develop how much we were in ruins, they would still be entrusted with the construction of roads then it would be even better for the Russians !!!!
    1. +3
      26 August 2014 21: 15
      they would have been entrusted with the construction of roads then it would be even better for the Russians !!!!
      Yes, we have and Avtodor copes with the cut well. Although Shoigu would not refuse
  19. 0
    26 August 2014 21: 04
    A little more offtopic for today.

    The Canadian Embassy in Russia said that the country's Foreign Minister, John Byrd, did not talk about plans for Canada to use military force against Russia in the event of a possible conflict in the Arctic. This is stated in the letter of the diplomatic mission, received by the editorial office of "Lenta.ru".

    A statement from the embassy emphasized that Byrd spoke of the strategic priority of Canadian sovereignty in the Arctic for the country and that the government was prepared to “protect and promote it.”

    Information on Canada’s preparedness for a possible military conflict was previously published by the Danish newspaper Berlingske. The Canadian diplomatic mission emphasized that the journalists of the publication misinterpreted the words of the country's foreign minister. The publication said that, according to Byrd, Canada is concerned about the buildup of Russian military capabilities in the Arctic and, if necessary, Ottawa is ready to use force to protect its sovereignty in the region.
  20. waisson
    +10
    26 August 2014 21: 05
    the Ministry of Emergency Situations invasion of the army soon the coolest troops will be the Ministry of Emergency Situations - the jacket said the jacket did -MAYBAN AS MUCH LIKE -but the army should be led by a regular military man - not a jacket ONE HONDURAS HATTLE AND GENERAL PURSUITS of the Ministry of Emergencies in Africa and I saw it the USSR hi
    1. waisson
      +3
      26 August 2014 21: 17
      the construction past affects at least kill the furniture maker changed to a builder hi
    2. +3
      26 August 2014 23: 23
      ONE HONDURASOVA CAP AND GENERAL POOR EMERGENCIES kill me I saw this in the armies of African countries and in the USSR battalion
      and what do you want from them?) whatever the kids wouldn’t amuse ... And everything is going fine with them. In 2008, what did Shoigu heroic do ?! that he was gifted with premium weapons? in South Ossetia, the Georgian group was frightened by the high tulle of its cap or did well in the orange beret on May 9th parade ...
      The title of the article:
      Professional rescuers appeared in the Russian army
      Continue
      Unprofessional left Shoigu in the Ministry of Emergencies
  21. 0
    26 August 2014 21: 16
    sorry for offtopic .. good news .. laughing
    Warrant Officer Storcheus, who received a whole battalion in this rank under command, was posthumously promoted to lieutenant.
    The commander of the battalion of the Kherson special-purpose patrol service, having thrown the unit entrusted to him, tried, following the example of his colleague from Kryvbas, to escape from the Ilovaysky boiler. However, a sabotage and reconnaissance group of Donetsk militias stood in the way of the fugitive, which the enemy considers the GRU special forces, since this group is not inferior to professional special forces in the effectiveness of its actions.
    The battalion commander, who, incidentally, had the rank of ensign, fell into this ambush. True, the battalion itself did not exceed half a population in numbers. Storchius himself was an activist of the Maidan and was co-opted into the Kherson police by the Right Sector. Prior to being sent to the front, the battalion was collecting voluntary donations for the ATO from Kherson entrepreneurs. As a matter of fact, the Kherson battalion was created precisely for this, and it was not planned to send it to a real war. Only a week ago, the command was forced to send Kherson to Ilovaisk.
    Together with Storchius, his driver-batman, 42-year-old ordinary police Oleg Peshkov, also died.
    In connection with the death of the runaway hero, Kherson declared citywide mourning. http://www.anaga.ru/
  22. Serrp
    +1
    26 August 2014 21: 20
    MOE is a Shoigu child. And we must give this brainchild ... The army has other tasks.
  23. special
    +3
    26 August 2014 21: 39
    Quote: waisson
    the Ministry of Emergency Situations invasion of the army soon the coolest troops will be the Ministry of Emergency Situations - the jacket said the jacket did -MAYBAN AS MUCH LIKE -but the army should be led by a regular military man - not a jacket ONE HONDURAS HATTLE AND GENERAL PURSUITS of the Ministry of Emergencies in Africa and I saw it the USSR hi

    Yes, the fact that every Minister of Defense considers it his duty to redo the uniform, introduce new staffs of incomprehensible units .... IMHO ... It's somehow too much ... With all due respect to the school, but too much ... hi
  24. +1
    26 August 2014 21: 42
    The army is a large economy. With its infrastructure, emergency situations sometimes happen there .. and there is also a regime of secrecy there .. So it’s better to have a unit in the army that can withstand man-made technology than coordinate with the Ministry of Emergencies and lose time.
    1. +1
      26 August 2014 21: 52
      Do you think that they will wait for the arrival of these "rescuers" instead of using medics, RHBZshniks, sappers and logisticians from the nearest motorized rifle or airborne brigade to eliminate the consequences?
      1. +1
        26 August 2014 22: 03
        Sorry, what kind of doctors are you implying - if there are only THREE military men in a military hospital. Maybe girls with children and pensioners will run to save our heroic carcasses.
        1. +1
          26 August 2014 22: 23
          In each motorized rifle brigade there is a medrot of 7 officers. Plus honey. platoon in motorized rifle battalions
  25. 0
    26 August 2014 21: 59
    the army in Soviet times was not only a defender but also the main assistant to his country. I believe it is correct that now, in addition to the military function, the army should be able to help the civilian population in all cases.
  26. Diver
    +1
    26 August 2014 22: 00
    And soon there will be no one to work, the army, the Ministry of Emergencies, the police are all in uniform, plus the protection of private security companies. The rest are white-ticketers. Who will work so that the Ministry of Emergencies is not needed? It turns out - the country's pillars are drug addicts, alcoholics, convicted, and cowards who have slanted from the army. He wrote and was scared himself, I don’t want to draw any further conclusions.
  27. +2
    26 August 2014 22: 03
    Such a formation is necessary - let’s recall at least the fires in the weapons depots.
  28. +3
    26 August 2014 22: 19
    Yes, uncle, I decided to get hold of my little MOE in MO
    The first military unit was formed in the armed forces of the Russian Federation, the main task of which is not to conduct hostilities, but to eliminate the consequences of emergency situations,
    MOE why then? Secrecy is nonsense, served on the Yak Mayak there everything had already been distributed in advance among the Ministry of Emergencies and we were fighting - who should do what, where to drag and how to bury, think the reactors would suddenly explode.
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  30. +2
    26 August 2014 22: 53
    Quote: Spade
    Do you think that they will wait for the arrival of these "rescuers" instead of using medics, RHBZshniks, sappers and logisticians from the nearest motorized rifle or airborne brigade to eliminate the consequences?


    To begin with, there are a large number of motor vehicles, armored vehicles in the Republic of Armenia. And now .. teachings .. a lot of equipment .. There is an accident .. the driver is clamped and how do you think chemists, doctors, atomic scientists, will help .. what will it help? To get it, you need mechanisms and trained people, but there are so far only in the Ministry of Emergencies.
    Nothing wrong with the fact that the same people appear in the Moscow Region, I do not see, and vice versa, this is very good. You have nothing against the rescue capsule on the submarine? Although you can call a special vessel .. But in such a situation, time comes first.
    1. +1
      27 August 2014 00: 15
      Quote: dvina71
      To begin with, there are a large number of motor vehicles, armored vehicles in the Republic of Armenia. And now .. teachings .. a lot of equipment .. There is an accident .. the driver is clamped and how do you think chemists, doctors, atomic scientists, air defense .. will they help?

      And how will a military unit stationed in the suburbs help?
      1. +1
        27 August 2014 00: 45
        And what does the RF in the suburbs or somewhere else? Do we have military personnel in the barracks?
        It seems not .. the exercises are regularly announced .. They are attended by hundreds of cars and armored vehicles .. At each such event, the Ministry of Emergencies to invite? Do they have other things to do or not, how do you care with MO?
        In addition, the arrival of robotics in the Sun was announced. One of the functions of which is to save the wounded. That also falls into the functionality of rescuers. And there is one more point. Techniques of this kind are new. ITS will be few at first. Operational experience needs to be accumulated and maintained, but it is better to do this in the special forces.
        1. 0
          27 August 2014 00: 48
          Have you read the article?
    2. 0
      27 August 2014 20: 10
      There is an accident .. the driver is clamped, and what do you think chemists, doctors, atomic scientists, air defense .. will they help? No way. To get it, you need mechanisms and trained people, but there are so far only in the Ministry of Emergencies.
      What "trained" people ???))) Better than a warrior, no one knows the layout of a combat vehicle (what can be broken and cut, and what can not be), they will bring a gas cutter, BAT will be driven, etc., they will start saving the warrior. Savvy is what is given. In battle, too, will the Emergencies Ministry call ???
  31. melnik
    +1
    26 August 2014 23: 11
    I saw Shoigu in the fires of 10 years in the region. It was something. From Oka, for 20 km they extended a pipe and flooded everything. Maybe the person who claims that Shoigu has broken everything in the subject, I don’t know. But in my opinion, yap
    1. +2
      27 August 2014 00: 45
      Quote: melnik
      From Oka, for 20 km they extended a pipe and flooded everything.

      Guess how many civil defense regiments in the Moscow Military District were disbanded under Shoigu?
      1. +2
        27 August 2014 02: 35
        And can you remember how many villages were burned that year? And this is with the active participation of the Ministry of Emergencies ..
        A pipe is more of a public relations agency.
  32. 345pdp
    0
    26 August 2014 23: 17
    Brothers, everything is clear. when Slavyansk and Kramotorsk free
  33. melnik
    0
    26 August 2014 23: 47
    On August 27, Savik Shuster arrives in Moscow, at 10 a.m. 20 train, 5 wagons. He said who had itchy fists, well. It’s ridiculous to look at them when they don’t get through. It seems like everything was bought, everything was captured, and then oops ..
  34. Everest2014
    +1
    27 August 2014 00: 04
    Quote: dr.Bo
    Shoigu without the Ministry of Emergencies cannot

    Yeah, but a former Sberbanker steers by mail and sculpts something bank-like out of it with a quiet sadness. It is not good.

    VEDOMOSTI - Russian Post will buy a bank with a license
    www.vedomosti.ru/companies/.../pochta-rossii-otkroet-pochtovyj-bank

    Feb 14 2014 - A postal bank will be created on the basis of an existing organization - possibly by the end of the year.

    And, let the air carriers take up oil for the sake of insanity. Thu, in a word.
    1. 0
      27 August 2014 00: 47
      Mail works very tightly with money. Transfers, pensions, utility bills .. It is strange that they had not been puzzled by this issue before .. It smacks of sabotage.
      1. 0
        27 August 2014 01: 15
        yeah ... all the machine gun turns out ...
  35. 0
    27 August 2014 01: 14
    Do you need a parallel structure of the Ministry of Emergencies? It may be better to develop the Ministry of Emergencies further and not to disperse, in the Army and so there is someone to deal with special problems, the Ministry of Emergencies will do the rest, otherwise they will soon become a travel agency.
  36. +2
    27 August 2014 02: 45
    The army itself really needs such a service, and not in one place, but in each garrison unit. In this case, the whole country will be blocked, and in cooperation with civilian rescuers there will be a timely response to emergencies. And then the emergency has already come, and ends, and the major forces only, only concentrated their forces and plan their actions ...
    1. 0
      27 August 2014 10: 00
      In each garrison there is a military fire brigade performing the functions of the Ministry of Emergency Situations. A couple of three general posts if only to introduce?
  37. +1
    27 August 2014 03: 37
    Shoigu is really great! As the Russian Defense Ministry began, the correct and necessary development of the army and navy immediately began, new units were created (scientific, sports companies, now emergency departments)! There would be more such correct and truly sick souls for a country of leaders in power !!!!
  38. +1
    27 August 2014 04: 15
    Whether or not another rescue service is needed, the question is interesting. In addition to the Ministry of Emergencies, a number of civilian rescue services exist and are successfully operating. I can not say with certainty that there is a need to create another parallel service to a number of existing ones.
  39. +2
    27 August 2014 06: 54
    And what about the army only? Let’s create a rescue regiment in the police and the Federal Penitentiary Service and in each ministry! Or maybe we can do our own thing?
  40. Everest2014
    0
    27 August 2014 08: 09
    Quote: dvina71
    Mail works very tightly with money. Transfers, pensions, utility bills .. It is strange that they had not been puzzled by this issue before .. It smacks of sabotage.

    So let her do what she does best - payments, transfers, pensions and mail. On the one hand, it is clear that commercialization of such a large unit from a loss-making one will make mail profitable. Over time, when banking services will prevail, these unnecessary and disadvantageous postal services will die, or will be pulled into a daughter where they die even worse. Sberbanker for the money of the government piles up another banking structure - this nonsense is very powerful.
  41. Everest2014
    +3
    27 August 2014 08: 41
    Unfinished, and the Ministry of Emergencies piles Emergency Situations 2.0. Cool, what can I say - another ministry in Moscow is emerging around this structure. Country officials. Is surrealism understandable?
  42. 0
    27 August 2014 09: 24
    Organized the "Special Forces of the Home Front"? ..